I had COVID back in October 2020 and I've had gastritis ever since (much improved, now). Maybe these notes will help someone.
COVID-induced gastritis might be a combination of elevated eosinophils and/or histamine receptors in the stomach.
It feels different from other forms of gastritis based on what I've read. I have had 0 pain and 0 heartburn, but lots of nausea. It feels as though the lining of my stomach is swollen after eating.
Stress, intense exercise, and illness make my symptoms worse. My caloric intake was ~20% lower on days when I had respiratory infections.
PPIs are well validated in achieving histological remission for eosinophilic esophagitis but are not well studied for eosinophilic gastritis. PPIs were the most effective treatment for me (esomeprazole BID 5 months, followed by esomeprazole QD up to today)
Avoiding all common dietary allergens and eating a low histamine diet helps substantially. My biggest trigger foods are high in histamine or are histamine liberators (according to Mastzellaktivierung PDF). Gluten does not bother me and I've reintroduced it. Legumes and dairy are still problematic.
Vitamin C supplements (250mg QD) and H1 antagonists (cetirizine) helped - I did not assess them separately. Vitamin C aids in histamine metabolism.
Zinc carnosine did not help. Slippery elm had brief effect. H2 antagonists didn't offer consistent results according to my symptom scoring. Deglycyrrhizinated licorice extract did not help. Ginger root sometimes helped relieve bloat but I don't use it anymore. Collagen had no effect.

I have capsules of the non deglycyrrhizinated licorice I’m confused because I’m reading this can increase free cortisol in the body but also many use for sleep I want something to help with sleep Current regimen of valerian and melatonin isn’t working and I hate using anti histamine regularly just to sleep! Hygiene/caffeine use/stress all dialed in no changes other than longer days and early sunrise affects my patterns I’m super resistant to sedating supplements I.e my normal melatonin dose is 2.5 and now I’m at 5mg, valerian I’ve been bumping up too Any info is welcome!

Has anyone tried deglycyrrhizinated licorice, apparently it isn't known to have the side effects of the non-deglycyrrhizinated licorice, and licorice contains both Isoliquiritigenin and other useful actives.
I'm especially interested on what kind of effect on the oral bioavailability of the Isoliquiritigenin full spectrum licorice (the DGL version, as the other version is known to raise cortisol, among other drawbacks) might have.
Finally, I wonder if ND might release a more full spectrum (DGL) licorice extract, especially if it would aid Isoliquiritigenin's bioavailability. Perhaps have a 10% Isoliquiritigenin extract?
u/pretty-chill, whaddya think?

So this below is a supplement protocol a holistic doctor has given me to do for 30 days
Oral Supplementation: GI Revive: 1 scoop 2x a day ~ GastroMEND: 2 capsules 2x/day on empty stomach ~ SBI Protect: 4 capsules 2x/day ~ FM Micro Biome Support: 1 tablet 3x/day with meals ~ AZ Micro Biome Support: 1 tablet per day with meals ~ Matula Tea: 1 teabag 2x/day for 1 month. Steep for 15 minute before drinking. ~ Repair Guard: 3 tablets 2x/day (with or without ok) Potent C Guard: 1-3 capsules per day. titrate to bowel tolerance (with food) HMF 500: 2 sachets per day before bed, Start after 4 days of FM and AZ. Continue for 3 months after finishing AZ/FM at a reduced dosing.
Dietary Changes: Mainly Animal Protein and Animal Fat. Eliminate Most fiber from the diet. Look up Low FibeLow Residue diet. Juicing to remove fiber is recommended
Over the counter: Acid Blocker while taking FM and AZ supplements - Omeprazole/Pantraprazole
Testing: Retest GIMAP 6 weeks after finishing protocol
Follow Up: 1 month
Below here is the ingredients breakdown in each supplement they gave me.
Ingredients Breakdown
GI Revive:
Zinc (from Zinc L-Carnosine 75 mg) - 155% Daily Value: What it is: Zinc is a trace mineral essential for various physiological functions. What it's for: Zinc L-Carnosine is known for its ability to support gastrointestinal health, promote the healing of gastric ulcers, and protect the stomach lining. Benefits: Zinc L-Carnosine may help reduce inflammation, support mucosal integrity, and inhibit the growth of Helicobacter pylori bacteria in the stomach.
L-Glutamine - 1.5 g: What it is: L-Glutamine is an amino acid that plays a crucial role in gut health and immune function. What it's for: L-Glutamine is the primary fuel source for the cells lining the gastrointestinal tract and is essential for maintaining gut barrier function. Benefits: L-Glutamine may help support the integrity of the intestinal mucosa, reduce inflammation, and promote healing in the digestive tract.
N-Acetyl-D-Glucosamine - 1 g: What it is: N-Acetyl-D-Glucosamine (NAG) is a form of glucosamine, a compound found in the mucous membranes of the gastrointestinal tract. What it's for: NAG is involved in the production of glycoproteins and glycosaminoglycans, which are essential for maintaining the integrity of the gut lining. Benefits: NAG may help support the repair and regeneration of damaged intestinal tissues, reduce inflammation, and improve gut barrier function.
Citrus Pectin - 400 mg: What it is: Citrus pectin is a type of soluble fiber found in citrus fruits. What it's for: Citrus pectin may help promote digestive health by supporting regular bowel movements and reducing cholesterol levels. Benefits: Citrus pectin may help support healthy digestion and contribute to overall gut health.
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL) (Glycyrrhiza glabra)(root) - 1 g: What it is: Deglycyrrhizinated licorice extract (DGL) is derived from licorice root with the glycyrrhizin removed. What it's for: DGL is known for its ability to soothe gastrointestinal irritation, reduce inflammation, and support digestive health. Benefits: DGL may help protect the stomach lining, promote healing of gastric ulcers, and relieve symptoms of acid reflux and indigestion.
Aloe Vera Extract - 300 mg: What it is: Aloe vera is a plant known for its medicinal properties. What it's for: Aloe vera is used to soothe gastrointestinal discomfort and promote healing of the digestive tract. Benefits: Aloe vera may help reduce inflammation, support tissue repair, and relieve symptoms of digestive disorders such as irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).
Mucin - 200 mg: What it is: Mucin is a glycoprotein that forms a protective barrier on the surface of the gastrointestinal tract. What it's for: Mucin helps protect the intestinal lining from damage and supports the function of the mucous membranes. Benefits: Mucin may help promote mucosal integrity, reduce inflammation, and support digestive health.
Marshmallow (Althea officinalis) (root) - 100 mg: What it is: Marshmallow root is a medicinal herb traditionally used to soothe gastrointestinal irritation and promote healing. What it's for: Marshmallow root contains mucilage, a gel-like substance that coats and protects the gastrointestinal tract. Benefits: Marshmallow root may help soothe digestive discomfort, reduce inflammation, and support mucosal integrity.
Chamomile Extract (Matricaria chamomilla) (flower) - 100 mg: What it is: Chamomile is an herb known for its calming and anti-inflammatory properties. What it's for: Chamomile may help soothe digestive discomfort, reduce inflammation, and promote relaxation. Benefits: Chamomile extract may help relieve symptoms of gastrointestinal disorders such as indigestion, bloating, and gas.
Okra Extract (Abelmoschus esculentus) (fruit) - 100 mg: What it is: Okra is a vegetable known for its high fiber content and mucilaginous properties. What it's for: Okra may help support digestive health by promoting regular bowel movements and reducing constipation. Benefits: Okra extract may help soothe gastrointestinal irritation, support mucosal integrity, and improve bowel function.
Cat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa) (bark) - 100 mg: What it is: Cat's claw is an herb with anti-inflammatory and immune-modulating properties. What it's for: Cat's claw is used to support immune function, reduce inflammation, and promote overall health. Benefits: Cat's claw may help support digestive health, reduce inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract, and protect against oxidative stress.
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) - 100 mg: What it is: Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM) is an organic sulfur compound found in plants and animals. What it's for: MSM is used to support joint health, reduce inflammation, and promote detoxification. Benefits: MSM may help reduce inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract, support tissue repair, and improve digestive function.
Quercetin - 100 mg: What it is: Quercetin is a flavonoid antioxidant found in fruits, vegetables, and herbs. What it's for: Quercetin has anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, and immune-modulating properties. Benefits: Quercetin may help reduce inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract, support immune function, and protect against oxidative stress.
Prune Powder - 100 mg: What it is: Prune powder is derived from dried plums. What it's for: Prune powder is used to support digestive health and relieve constipation. Benefits: Prune powder may help promote regular bowel movements, support gastrointestinal motility, and provide relief from constipation.
Slippery Elm Extract (Ulmus rubra) (bark) - 200 mg: What it is: Slippery elm is a medicinal herb known for its mucilaginous properties. What it's for: Slippery elm is used to soothe gastrointestinal irritation, promote healing, and support digestive health. Benefits: Slippery elm extract may help protect the stomach lining, reduce inflammation, and relieve symptoms of gastrointestinal disorders such as acid reflux and gastritis.
GastroMEND: Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) - 500 mg (555% Daily Value): What it is: Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin and a powerful antioxidant. What it's for: Vitamin C is involved in various bodily functions, including collagen synthesis, immune function, and wound healing. It also has antioxidant properties that help protect cells from damage by free radicals. Benefits: Vitamin C may help support the immune system, reduce inflammation, and promote tissue repair in the gastrointestinal tract.
Zinc (from Zinc L-Carnosine) - 17 mg (155% Daily Value): What it is: Zinc is a trace mineral that is essential for various physiological processes. What it's for: Zinc plays a crucial role in immune function, wound healing, and DNA synthesis. Benefits: Zinc L-Carnosine is known for its potential to support gastrointestinal health and promote the healing of gastric ulcers. It may also help protect the stomach lining from damage caused by factors such as stress and inflammation.
Mastic Gum (Pistacia lentiscus) (sap tears) - 200 mg: What it is: Mastic gum is a resin obtained from the mastic tree (Pistacia lentiscus). What it's for: Mastic gum has been traditionally used to support digestive health and soothe gastrointestinal discomfort. Benefits: Mastic gum may help inhibit the growth of Helicobacter pylori bacteria, which is associated with the development of stomach ulcers and gastritis. It also has anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial properties that may help reduce inflammation and promote healing in the gastrointestinal tract.
Methylmethionine Sulfonium Chloride (Vitamin U) - 150 mg: What it is: Methylmethionine sulfonium chloride, also known as vitamin U, is a compound found in certain foods such as cabbage and broccoli. What it's for: Vitamin U has been studied for its potential to support gastrointestinal health and protect the stomach lining. Benefits: Vitamin U may help promote the healing of gastric ulcers, reduce inflammation, and protect the stomach lining from damage caused by factors such as alcohol consumption and non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice Extract (GutGard®) (Glycyrrhiza glabra) (root) [standardized to contain 10% total flavonoids) - 75 mg: What it is: Deglycyrrhizinated licorice extract (DGL) is derived from licorice root (Glycyrrhiza glabra) with the glycyrrhizin removed. What it's for: DGL is known for its ability to soothe gastrointestinal irritation and support digestive health. Benefits: DGL may help protect the stomach lining, reduce inflammation, and promote healing in cases of gastritis and stomach ulcers. It may also help relieve symptoms of acid reflux and indigestion.
SBI Protect: Serum-Derived Bovine Immunoglobulin Concentrate (ImmunoLin®) - 2.42 g: What it is: Serum-derived bovine immunoglobulin concentrate is derived from bovine serum and contains a concentrated form of immunoglobulins, also known as antibodies. What it's for: Immunoglobulins play a crucial role in the immune system's defense against pathogens and foreign substances. Benefits: Serum-derived bovine immunoglobulin concentrate may help support immune function, maintain gut barrier integrity, and modulate immune responses in the gastrointestinal tract. It may also help reduce inflammation and promote healing in cases of gastrointestinal disorders such as inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) and leaky gut syndrome.
Immunoglobulin G (IgG) - 1.15 g: What it is: Immunoglobulin G (IgG) is the most abundant type of antibody found in the blood and other body fluids. What it's for: IgG antibodies play a key role in the immune system's ability to recognize and neutralize pathogens such as bacteria, viruses, and toxins. Benefits: IgG antibodies help protect against infections and support immune function. In supplement form, IgG may help reinforce the body's natural defenses and promote immune system health, particularly in the gastrointestinal tract.
FM Micro Biome Support: Artemisinin annua L (aerial) 100:1 - 500 mg: What it is: Artemisinin is a compound derived from the Artemisia annua plant, also known as sweet wormwood. What it's for: Artemisinin is primarily known for its antimalarial properties and is used in the treatment of malaria. Benefits: Artemisinin and its derivatives have potent antimalarial activity and are commonly used in combination therapies for treating malaria infections caused by Plasmodium parasites. Additionally, research suggests that artemisinin may have potential anticancer properties and could be beneficial in managing other health conditions, although further studies are needed to confirm its efficacy and safety for these uses.
AZ Micro Biome Support: Berberine 100:1 (166 mg): What it is: Berberine is a compound found in various plants, including goldenseal, barberry, and Oregon grape. What it's for: Berberine has been used traditionally in herbal medicine for its antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, and antioxidant properties. Benefits: Berberine may help support immune function, promote cardiovascular health, regulate blood sugar levels, and combat infections caused by bacteria, viruses, and fungi.
Lomatium Dissectum 100:1 (166 mg): What it is: Lomatium dissectum is a plant native to western North America. What it's for: Lomatium dissectum has been traditionally used by Native American tribes for its immune-supporting and antiviral properties. Benefits: Lomatium dissectum may help support immune function, particularly in fighting viral infections such as colds, flu, and respiratory infections.
Artemisia Annua (Aerial) 100:1 (166 mg): What it is: Artemisia annua, also known as sweet wormwood, is a plant used in traditional Chinese medicine. What it's for: Artemisia annua contains a compound called artemisinin, which has potent antimalarial properties and is also being studied for its potential antiviral and anticancer effects. Benefits: Artemisia annua may help support immune function, combat malaria, and exhibit antiviral properties against certain viruses, although further research is needed to fully understand its mechanisms of action and effectiveness against different viral infections.
Matula Tea: Quercetin: Quercetin is a flavonoid found in many fruits, vegetables, and herbs. It has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties and may help support digestive health.
Matula Herbal Blend: The specific herbal blend used in Matula Tea may include a combination of herbs known for their traditional use in promoting gastrointestinal health and soothing digestive discomfort.
Ginger: Ginger is a root known for its anti-inflammatory and digestive properties. It may help alleviate nausea, indigestion, and other gastrointestinal issues.
Licorice Root: Licorice root has been used in traditional medicine to soothe gastrointestinal irritation and promote healing of the stomach lining.
Chamomile: Chamomile is an herb known for its calming and anti-inflammatory properties. It may help soothe digestive discomfort and promote relaxation.
Marshmallow Root: Marshmallow root contains mucilage, a gel-like substance that can help coat and soothe the lining of the digestive tract. It may help alleviate symptoms of gastritis and other gastrointestinal issues.
Slippery Elm Bark: Slippery elm bark is another herb known for its mucilaginous properties. It may help soothe irritation in the digestive tract and promote healing of gastric ulcers.
Mastic Gum: Mastic gum is a resin derived from the mastic tree. It has been traditionally used to support digestive health and may have antimicrobial properties that could help combat H. pylori infections.
Oleaceae Family: The Oleaceae family includes plants like olive (Olea europaea) and ash (Fraxinus spp.). Olive leaf extract, derived from the leaves of the olive tree, is sometimes used in herbal medicine for its potential antioxidant and antimicrobial properties.
Rutaceae Family: The Rutaceae family includes citrus fruits such as oranges, lemons, and limes, as well as herbs like rue (Ruta spp.) and bergamot (Citrus bergamia). Citrus fruits are rich in vitamin C and flavonoids, which have antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. Certain citrus extracts, such as bergamot extract, are also used in supplements for their potential cholesterol-lowering effects.
Fabaceae Family: The Fabaceae family, also known as the legume or pea family, includes a wide variety of plants like beans, lentils, peas, and peanuts. Some legumes, such as chickpeas and soybeans, are rich sources of protein, fiber, and various nutrients.
Alliaceae Family: The Alliaceae family includes plants like garlic (Allium sativum), onions (Allium cepa), and leeks (Allium ampeloprasum). Garlic and onions have been used for centuries in traditional medicine for their potential health benefits, including antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, and cardiovascular properties.
Sutherlandia Family: Sutherlandia frutescens, also known as "cancer bush" or "balloon pea," is a medicinal plant native to South Africa. It has a long history of traditional use for various health conditions and is believed to have immune-modulating, anti-inflammatory, and antioxidant properties.
Repair Guard: Quercetin dihydrate - 1,000 mg: What it is: Quercetin is a flavonoid antioxidant found in various fruits, vegetables, and grains. What it's for: Quercetin has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties and may support cardiovascular health, immune function, and overall wellness. Benefits: Quercetin may help reduce inflammation, protect against oxidative stress, support immune function, and promote cardiovascular health.
Pomegranate juice powder (high ORAC) - 60 mg: What it is: Pomegranate juice powder is derived from pomegranate fruit, known for its high antioxidant content. What it's for: Pomegranate contains compounds such as polyphenols and flavonoids, which have antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. Benefits: Pomegranate juice powder may help protect cells from oxidative damage, support cardiovascular health, and promote overall well-being.
UPC (from ActiVin® grape seed extract) - 10 mg: What it is: UPC, or oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs), is a compound found in grape seed extract. What it's for: Grape seed extract is rich in antioxidants and may help protect against oxidative stress and inflammation. Benefits: ActiVin® grape seed extract may support cardiovascular health, improve circulation, and reduce inflammation in the body.
Vegetable fiber (organic croscarmellose) - 5 mg: What it is: Croscarmellose sodium is a commonly used pharmaceutical excipient, a type of insoluble fiber derived from wood pulp or cotton. What it's for: Croscarmellose sodium is used as a disintegrant in tablets to help them break down and dissolve in the digestive tract. Benefits: Vegetable fiber may help improve digestive health and promote regular bowel movements.
Chlorophyll Turmeric - 40 mg: What it is: Chlorophyll is a green pigment found in plants, and turmeric is a spice derived from the Curcuma longa plant. What it's for: Chlorophyll and turmeric both have antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. Benefits: Chlorophyll and turmeric may help support detoxification, reduce inflammation, and promote overall health and well-being.
Potent C Guard: Vitamin C (as 100% L-ascorbate, fully reduced and buffered) - 1,000 mg: What it is: Vitamin C, also known as ascorbic acid, is a water-soluble vitamin and a powerful antioxidant. What it's for: Vitamin C is essential for various bodily functions, including collagen synthesis, immune function, and antioxidant defense. Benefits: Vitamin C may help support the immune system, promote wound healing, protect against oxidative stress, and enhance the absorption of iron from plant-based foods.
Calcium (as ascorbate) - 0.111 mg: What it is: Calcium is a mineral essential for bone health, muscle function, nerve transmission, and blood clotting. What it's for: Calcium ascorbate is a form of vitamin C that includes calcium. It may help buffer the acidity of vitamin C, making it gentler on the stomach. Benefits: Calcium ascorbate may help support bone health, promote collagen synthesis, and enhance the absorption of vitamin C.
Octanoate (C16 and C18 alkyls) - 10 mg: What it is: Octanoate is a form of fatty acid. What it's for: Octanoate may serve various functions in the supplement, such as stabilizing ingredients or aiding in absorption. Benefits: Octanoate may help improve the bioavailability and stability of the supplement's ingredients.
Vegetable fiber (organic croscarmellose) - 20 mg: What it is: Croscarmellose sodium is a commonly used pharmaceutical excipient, which is a type of insoluble fiber derived from wood pulp or cotton. What it's for: Vegetable fiber, such as croscarmellose sodium, is used as a disintegrant in supplements and medications, helping tablets break down and dissolve in the digestive tract. Benefits: Croscarmellose sodium may help improve the absorption of the supplement's ingredients and enhance their effectiveness.
HMF 500: Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis (CUL-34) - 500 billion CFU & Bifidobacterium bifidum (CUL-20): What they are: Bifidobacterium animalis subsp. lactis and Bifidobacterium bifidum are strains of beneficial bacteria that primarily reside in the colon. What they're for: These probiotic strains contribute to gut health by supporting the balance of beneficial bacteria in the gut microbiota. Benefits: Bifidobacterium strains like B. animalis subsp. lactis and B. bifidum may help improve digestion, support immune function, and reduce the risk of gastrointestinal disorders such as diarrhea and irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).
Lactobacillus acidophilus (CUL-60 & CUL-21) & Lactobacillus salivarius (CUL-61): What they are: Lactobacillus acidophilus and Lactobacillus salivarius are strains of beneficial bacteria belonging to the Lactobacillus genus. What they're for: Lactobacillus strains play a key role in maintaining gut health by producing lactic acid and other compounds that help inhibit the growth of harmful bacteria. Benefits: Lactobacillus acidophilus and Lactobacillus salivarius may help support digestion, boost the immune system, and prevent the overgrowth of harmful bacteria in the gut. They may also help alleviate symptoms of gastrointestinal disorders such as diarrhea, constipation, and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD)

Hey guys. I posted here before a few months ago when I felt like I healed, but then I forgot my throwaway account pw and couldn't figure out which e-mail it was associated with. You guys asked questions and I couldn't answer, so I'll just keep this account since it's reddit-reset time anyways due to reddit shenanigans 😂
Onset: End of 2019
Felt healed: Roughly sometime by August of 2023.
Diagnoses: Chronic gastritis ("Light chronic gastritis"), diverticulitis, IBS
Other tests done: 1. H Pylori - negative

1. Stool test - negative
   
2. GI Map - waste of money. It shows a bunch of things out of whack but no clear direction except to pay your dietician to resell a bunch of name brand supplements
   
3. Blood markers for Crohn's - positive. Suggestive of aggressive Crohn's (false positive; no signs of crohn's on biopsy, thank God).
   
4. SIBO - positive. Took antibiotics, and it fixed my constipation but no impact on gastritis.
   
5. 2 endoscopies and 2 colonoscopies: Light chronic gastritis, and diverticulitis.
   
6. Pill endoscopy -- nothing new according to Dr. Don't remember the official results though.
   

Symptoms: 1. Epigastric pain. Stabbing, or dull, depending on how bad it was. 2. Burning. Epigastric. 3. Bloated. Like guts were swollen. At the onset in 2019 I went to the ER. They did some kind of a scan (don't remember anymore), and the nurse told me that everything looks so swollen that she was surprised that I was standing. 4. Initially, I had some belching, but that died down years later. 5. No appetite while inflamed. No nausea, EXCEPT for a brief period in 2023 when I finally started healing. Strange.. Maybe a coincidence, or maybe it was related.
Complications: I developed a pretty serious depression, and I'm still dealing with the fall out from it. Dealing with the pain ingrained this sense of hopelessness in me. But, I also think that the depression is piggy backing off of some other stuff in my life, unrelated to the stomach.. But stomach issues definitely left a mark on me.
I also lost a lot of weight. I went from 220 lbs to 164 lbs at my lowest. Currently I am about 200lbs.
What helped the pain: 1. Slippery Elm. Mix 1-2 tablespoons of it with a bit of water, and eat it. It helped calm the pain a bit. 2. Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice (DGL) - it worked somewhat, but i think it recoiled with some heart burn afterwards. It seemed to calm burning and some pain. 3. PPI - worked until it didn't. Would calm symptoms for about 24h. I think it may have caused some pain as well, and may have been responsible for SIBO. I eventually moved away from it and relied on famotidine. 4. Famotidine - Calmed symptoms for 8 hours. 5. PepzinGI - not sure if it helped. I took it on and off, cuz why not? 6. Controlled diet: This is the only thing that in the long run would stop all pain.
NOTE: I feel like this bears repeating.. None of the drugs or supplements really took away the misery completely. They only reduced it. The only thing that took away symptoms completely was staying the course on my diet. As soon as I would cheat, I would be back to square one.
What ultimately healed me: The biggest challenge was learning to never, ever cheat for months on end. I suspect that a large part of what was preventing me from healing was that I would cheat on my diet. The slightest cheat caused everything to go back to zero. Eventually, I found a diet that I didn't mind eating every single day. I ate chicken thighs, potatoes, some dried veggies, salt, and Mediterranean herbs (all the green ones. nothing spicy). However, I couldn't start there because my stomach couldn't handle the fat in the thighs. I initially had to start with potatoes only. Later, I graduated to potatoes + egg whites. Then potatoes + chicken breast. Then potatoes + thighs.
Higher food quality & Destressing: I put these 2 things together because I don't know which contributed more, and both happened at the same time. I lived in the US, but I ended up moving to my home country in Europe, where food quality is considerably higher. Previously in my life, I've had periods of constant heartburn, and I remember that staying 2 weeks in my home country eating local food would reset my heartburn for the entire next year when I returned to the US. So I figured that there "might be something in the water" in the US, so to speak, and that it was worth trying this out. However, while living in the US, I was also under constant stress because I was living with a woman with whom my relationship was failing. Long story short: Within about a week of staying in my home country, I was able to drop away Famotidine, and rely on Tums only. My symptoms stabilized, as long as I stuck to my rigid diet.
For the US folks struggling with food quality: It might be worth really choosing your foods carefully. Do your research, and buy the expensive organic chicken and make sure your veggies are also organic. God knows what they spray on the veggies in the US. I know it's a lot more expensive but it really might be worth it. While I was in the US, I bought the regular produce and meat-- the trash quality type. Maybe if I had switched 100% to healthier varieties, maybe I would have healed faster.
My status now:
I'm able to eat everything. I drink 3 coffees a day. I stay away from spicy food out of caution but I've eaten it without a problem. I eat sweets again on a daily basis, although they cause heartburn for me. I still take tums or famotidine as soon as I get symptoms. I do not want this to get out of control again.
Note on IBS: It turned out that some of the pain I was experiencing was coming from IBS. While I was healing, I noticed that I would get pains, but there was a slight difference. There would be no burning, so I started suspecting that maybe my guts were cramping up. I started taking those gut relaxer pills that my doc prescribed me, and it made it go away right away. I don't take those anymore, but there was a period where I was taking them.
Good luck, everyone! I'll stay logged in so I can answer any questions you might have.

Looking for ways to strengthen my Lower Esophageal Sphincter (LES) for my GER that I have suffered for years. Have visited several gastroenterologists as well as undergone endoscopy. Only treatments were rx for PPIs and suggestion of significant diet modification (even though I have a relatively healthy diet as it is).
I've tried one PPI (omeprazole) and didn't like it. Seemed to elevate my resting HR and thus also become a distraction for sleep. Also, concerned with the longer term cautions of PPIs in general.
Also tried famotidine at starting does of 10mg / day and it worked reasonably well for a week or two (with no noticeable sides), but then symptoms started to return and required increasing dosage to maintain effectiveness. Not interested in that roller coaster...
Have also tried "raft" agents (alginates) as well as deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL) to moderate success, but requires fast response to symptom onset for maximum effectiveness and is not always convenient.
That led me to explore addressing the potential physiological cause (weak or ineffective LES?) and I found some "exercise" alternatives to explore further. One is a "swallowing" exercise using specific posture referred to as "bridge swallowing" (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9550520). Another is "Modified inspiratory muscle training" (m-IMT). For m-IMT, here is a previous post to the GERD sub that contains the source link as well as a pretty good description of the individual's journey and their claimed results (https://www.reddit.com/GERD/comments/gdednz/has_anyone_tried_modified_inspiratory_muscle).
So, I have begun the bridge swallowing a few days ago and while it is way too early to expect results, anecdotally I have seemingly already begun benefitting.
Interested in anyone else's experience with LES strengthening approaches and degree(s) of effectiveness (if any)?

i have methane, with a high prob hydrogene sibo, numbers where not to high around upper 20-30 for methane, my doctor perscribed for me 1 allimax 180 cap, 2 fc-dal, 2 dysbiocide twice a day on a high fodmap diet and the following between meals,
1 cap of glutagenics in the am: L-Glutamine ... 3.5 g *Deglycyrrhizinized Licorice ... 500 mg\*(Glycyrrhiza glabra) Root 10:1 Extract Aloe ... 50 mg\*(Aloe barbadensis) Decolorized Inner Leaf Gel Powder1 MegaPre Sticks at night: Galactooligosacchardies (Bimuno®)Organic gold and green kiwifruit powder(Livaux® and ACTAZIN®)Organic Xylooligosaccharides (PreticX®)
and 1 megaspore gummy in the evening: 87.5mg / 2 Billion CFUBacillus indicus HU36Bacillus clausii (SC109)Bacillus subtilis HU58Bacillus coagulans (SC208)
does this look like a standard protocol, im about 2 weeks my symptoms really havent changed? i see her again in a week and a half.

PPI has definitely helped with symptoms, but not quite all the way. So I was wondering if it's OK to do the following, daily:
30mg PPI 30
2 chewable deglycyrrhizinated licorice tablets
Peptic liquid after meal if symptoms still turn up
I know I'm not getting a professional medical opinion on here, but does anyone have any experience taking all these meds daily, or is it potentially overkill/harmful?
Any other combos that worked for you are appreciated. I am slim and healthy (aside from the Gerd) and avoiding triggers

35M, 6ft, 120lb, white, stomach aches
Throughout 2022 I slowly became more frequently afflicted with stomach aches sometimes lasting several days at a time. The stomach aches don't include nausea. I never have diarrhea and rarely have heartburn. I've never been able to figure out very definitely a pattern of what types of foods cause these stomach aches but it does seem that having a large or late meal is a fairly consistent trigger. However, despite limiting myself mostly to snack sized meals and rarely eating after 5 pm in 2023 things have only gotten worse in 2023. Even a tall glass of water would be over-filling and make me feel sick. I can't help but wonder if there are multiple separate issues; whatever the original stomach issue was and secondary issues caused by the severe dietary restrictions this causes as I struggle to find a diet that will not cause me agony.
Took Famotidine for a several month stretch of 2023 to no obvious effect. Same story with Sucralfate. Tried various supplements like Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice, Slippery Elm, and PepZin, none of which helped either. Absolutely nothing seems to help.Blood test found nothing. CT scan with contrast found nothing. Endoscopy only found mild inflammation but nothing to suggest a diagnosis. Tests for bacteria came back negative. Gastroenterologist is at a loss with regard to a diagnosis and has run out of ideas for tests.
Background / other existing medical issues: several (4?) years ago I had a sudden lower-right abdominal pain while doing a crunch and ever since then can't do anything that remotely engages my core or I risk having lower abdominal pain lasting for days. Multiple doctors have examined me and were unable to find any explanation for this. A separate CT scan with contrast found nothing. When the stomach aches started I was borderline underweight (130-140lb), which might be explained by very low muscle mass caused by this inexplicable injury preventing me from engaging in any of the sorts of activities that would grow muscle mass. This being underweight was in spite of what was at the time a fairly high-calorie diet rich in nuts, legumes, and avocados. After giving up all of those in search of a dietary solution, the lowest I ever got to was about 110 lb, now back up to 120 lb. I wouldn't expect it to be relevant, but in the interest of completeness, I also suffer from Raynaud's Syndrome.
Current medications: I currently take a magnesium oxide supplement as needed for regularity (which before magnesium I used to struggle with), and an occasional multivitamin. I neither drink, smoke, nor use recreational drugs.
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I am taking for some months the following supplements :
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Lutein + Cucumin with 1st meal
Creatine + Zinc + Magnesium before sleep with empty stomach
I also have some other supplements like taurine, b12, omega3, probiotics, C, Theanine, Melatonin but i take them rarely, according the situation..
I have started taking lysine also for mouth ulcers prevention, i wanna see if it works..
I have also a d+k and cordyceps supplement closed. I have never taken codyceps before. I have a closed Grapefruit Seed Extract but don't know if i will open it now.. And a Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice Root which i take when i have mouth ulcers..
Lastly, i have started taking 5ml of Sambucus Elderberry for some winter immunity.. Don't know if it works.. My children take it also.
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My question is. Should i keep taking them, or do some cycle replacements? For example swap curcumin with something else? And what about lutein? Is it a waste of money or not? I think i am taking lutein for some years..
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I know that Q10 can work and it's a good supplement, i used to take it when i was 20 years old ( LOL!! ), but i have read that it's better to take it after 40.. Now i am 36.
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The only sure is that i recover from ill faster than my kids and wife.. Don't know if supplements can help with that.. My wife takes nothing.. Only some iron.
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And which of the above supplements would you consider bad and should stop taking it? And why?
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*** When i was 20-25 i used to take 3x the amount of supplements.. :D
You may see many supplements, but as i said some of them take rarely. For example i have the same bottle of probiotics, melatonin, b12, C, thenine, omega3 for over 5 months.. But maybe i start taking b12 on daily basis for some energy boost in the morning.. Dunno..

I used
GI relief by Thorne
FC cidal, Dysbiocide,
Seeking health Multivitamin One MF
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega
Vitamin a Drops
Vitamin C
Oxy Powder (Mag07 better cheaper brand amazon)
Activated charcoal
Ultrabiotic defense probiotic with lactobacillus and bifido and saccharomyces boulardii
bilex ox bile
Collagenenzymedica digestive enzymes
hcl or apple cider vinegar for acid to digest.
Gluten and dairy free for at least 2 weeks. Gluten is easier to avoid but dairy can be harder with cheese lovers. Cheeseburger without bun is easy, but hamburger no cheese sucks lol Cheese can light your brain up like drugs. https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2015/study-reveals-that-cheese-triggers-the-same-part-of-the-brain-as-many-drugs
GASX Can be used with the probiotics to keep bloating down as they repair everything and start to work. Works awesome! Especially when introducing new foods I haven't had in 2 years. Pain completely gone in abdomen, and well, my entire body too! Multi helping with pain for sure.
to heal after 4 years of SEVERE leaky gut, sibo, candida, brain fog, appetite loss, lost 50 lbs and couldn't eat, skinniest in my entire life, and mental health issues, and I am completely cured! Little bit of Monolaurin and Nutricidin by Nutridyn in past months.
To see everything I have gone through and got wrong, You can search Citrobacter SIBO on reddit and find my post a year ago.
Seeking health Multivitamin one MF was the one thing that helped more than anything followed by the leaky gut support GI Relief and now Seeking health extra Vitamin A Drops.
Vitamin A Is needed for secretory IgA , and for the gut lining. I was low for entire year but was scared by GI to not take it cause "it can be toxic". Low serum Vitamin A is a severe deficiency due to the liver being exhausted of Vitamin A before the serum finally goes low. I was 2 points above low value. That is way too low. Saccharomyces Boulardii helps the leaky gut with increasing IgA as well. So does the lacto/bifido.Gi relief sooths the lining and helps mucus production. Licorice in it helps stress as an adapatgen. It really helped in just one week along with multi I was feeling better.GI relief and Seeking health multi have given me the best sleep in 2-4 years. Consistently better sleep.NO STRESS AT ALL< I feel like I am on vacation. Laughing more and happy. The Seeking health Multivitamin does not have much vitamin a so I take an extra 2500 - 5000 IU from their brand of vitamin A drops. It doesn't have vitamin c so I take a 500 mg extended release or more as needed.
EDIT: Please look into overmethylation and undermethylation and their symptoms. I couldn't tolerate all the methy cobolamin and folate for years, Dry eyes, vivid colors, crazy problems with MTHFR, COMT, and other genes. Seeking health Multivitamin One MF does not have these two methylated forms and was the first vitamin that I could tolerate in years. My dry eyes are gone, Do not have any stress at all, its a miracle, and Light no longer hurts my eyes! VITAMINS ARE CRITICAL FOR GENES AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM AS WELL AS STRESS, REST AND DIGEST!please look into methylation and if you are slow speaker, Methylated form regular Multivitamin One may be best for you.If you scratch your skin and in 20 seconds or so it goes red, That may be Undermethylation and High histamine, Multivitmin One (non mf) may be best for you.If you do not get red barely at all after 20 seconds, Overmethylation and LOW histamine , then Multivitamin One MF (methyl free) may be best for you.Niacin 50 mg nicotine acid can help lower overmethylation reactions as well as glycine, magnesium glycinate and collagen rich in glycine.
I also did Vital Nutrients and a few other brands of Collagen to help heal gut lining with easy to digest and absorb amino acids.
ADRENALS ARE SO CRITICAL. People get so stressed and overwhelmed and spend hours reading.. and learning. The cure for me was the calming adaptogen licorice inside Gi Relief and even better, the High POTENCY B VITAMINS INSIDE THE SEEKING HEALTH ONE MF multi!!!! I never thought any drug, vitamin or substance on this earth could make me feel so calm and be able to rest and digest, as well as relax and recover.
IF you are not on a multi, That was my missing link and key to my healing. One month and I am a different person. Adding Gi relief in for 1 week , after doing 1 month of multi was the cure. Even more relaxing , better sleep, energy and my gut was feeling perfect. Adding in 1 week of Ultrabiotics defense probiotics and FC cidal and Dysbiocide is sealing the deal.
Ox bile helps sludge and I had severe bile Issues and didn't even know until I started Motility activator and got a gallstone. All test were OK at doctor but I still had issues and 3 tabs ox bile before meals or at morning empty stomach cured it for me.I was copper deficient in serum and had histamine intolerance and couldn't get my levels up until I started ox bile and finally it is in range!
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega is critical omega three supplement that helps brain cells by nurishing them. Helps lower inflammation and provide the correct omega 3 to 6 ratio.
I just started some FC cidal and Dysbiocide past week, I tolerate it perfectly. for 9 months off and on Nutricidin and monolaurin but would stop because it gave me horrible die off and leaky gut let it all pass through. Leaky gut produces Die off and you need the collagen, vitamins, and soup meat cooked veggies nothing raw, to help heal leaky gut while taking the anti-inflammatory herbs,foods, and anti microbials.
*Multivitamin and GI relief* healed leaky gut with nutrients(vitamin A) and herbs and Now I will re-test them. These two things helped more than all killing herbs, supplements and protocols I have done in 2 years.
I can tolerate probiotics lacto/bifido and saccharomyces boulardii beneficial yeast now. I am able to eat foods I haven't eaten in two years or more. I feel a new lease on life. Thankful to God I was spared death last year when It was closer than I ever have been.
Here is my protocol gone through AI.
GI Relief by Thorne is a soothing botanical formula for the GI tract. It contains four natural ingredients that help calm irritated tissues and support the mucous membranes of the GI tract.* These ingredients are:

• Aloe vera gel: This is a gentle and soothing substance that comes from the inner part of the aloe plant. It does not have the laxative effect that some parts of the aloe plant can have.1
• Deglycyrrhizinated licorice (DGL): This is a form of licorice root that has been processed to remove glycyrrhizin, a compound that can raise blood pressure. DGL helps maintain stomach and esophageal health by supporting the natural defenses of the gastric mucosa without inhibiting gastric acid secretion.2
• Slippery elm bark: This is a herb that has been used for centuries to soothe the digestive tract. It contains mucilaginous compounds that form a protective layer on the mucous membranes and help ease digestive discomfort.2
• Marshmallow root: This is another herb that contains mucilaginous compounds that help soothe and lubricate the digestive tract. It also has anti-inflammatory and immune-modulating properties.2

GI Relief by Thorne can be taken with each meal or as recommended by your health professional. You can also open the capsules and mix the contents with warm water to make a soothing drink for your upper digestive tract.2
Here is some information about each supplement you used and how they work:

• GI relief by Thorne: This is a blend of botanicals and nutrients that support gastrointestinal health and comfort. It contains ingredients such as licorice, chamomile, slippery elm, marshmallow, and aloe vera that help soothe and protect the mucosal lining of the digestive tract. It also contains L-glutamine, an amino acid that supports intestinal integrity and immune function1
• FC cidal: This is a herbal supplement that contains a proprietary blend of herbs and herbal extracts that support healthy gut microbiota and immune function. Some of the herbs in this formula have antimicrobial, antifungal, antiparasitic, and anti-inflammatory properties. These include dill, stemona, wormwood, java brucea, Chinese pulsatilla, Jamaica quassia, cutch tree, hedyotis, and yarrow2
• Dysbiocide: This is another herbal supplement that contains a proprietary blend of herbs and herbal extracts that support normal gut health and digestion. The combination of Eastern and Western herbs in this formula provides synergistic support for healthy gut microbiota and intestinal tissue. Some of the herbs in this formula are dill, stemona, wormwood, java brucea, Chinese pulsatilla, Jamaica quassia, cutch tree, hedyotis, and yarrow3
• Seeking health Multivitamin One MF: This is a one-a-day multivitamin supplement that contains many essential nutrients in methyl-free forms. It contains vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, vitamin K2, thiamine, riboflavin, niacinamide, vitamin B6, folate as folinic acid, vitamin B12 as hydroxocobalamin and adenosylcobalamin, biotin, pantothenic acid, iodine, zinc, selenium, copper, manganese, chromium, molybdenum, boron, PQQ (pyrroloquinoline quinone), SOD (superoxide dismutase), and vanadium. These nutrients support various aspects of health such as immune function, energy production, cognitive function, cardiovascular function, bone health, skin health, and antioxidant status4
• Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega Vitamin a Drops: This is a liquid fish oil supplement that provides high-potency omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA along with vitamin A as retinyl palmitate. Omega-3 fatty acids support heart health, brain health, mood balance, joint health, eye health, and immune function. Vitamin A supports eye health, mucus membrane health, immune health, and skin health. The fish oil is derived from 100% wild-caught sardines and anchovies and has a fresh lemon taste5
• Vitamin C: This is a water-soluble nutrient that acts as an antioxidant and helps protect cells from free radical damage. Vitamin C also supports collagen synthesis, wound healing, iron absorption, immune function, and infection resistance. Vitamin C is found in many fruits and vegetables such as citrus fruits, berries, potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, cabbage, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, and spinach. Vitamin C can also be taken as an oral supplement in the form of capsules or chewable tablets6
• Oxy Powder Activated charcoal: Oxy Powder is a colon cleansing supplement that contains ozonated magnesium oxide that releases oxygen into the intestinal tract to flush out toxins and waste. Activated charcoal is a substance that has millions of tiny pores that can trap and remove toxins from the body. Oxy Powder Activated charcoal can be used to detoxify the body from harmful substances such as drugs, chemicals, heavy metals, and pathogens. It can also help reduce gas, bloating, constipation, and diarrhea78
• Ultrabiotic defense probiotic with lactobacillus and bifido and saccharomyces boulardii: This is a probiotic supplement that contains three synergistic strains of beneficial bacteria: Lactobacillus rhamnosus HN001™, Bifidobacterium lactis HN019®, and Saccharomyces boulardii DBVPG®. These probiotics help support healthy gut flora balance, immune function, digestive function, nutrient absorption, and regularity. They also help the body eliminate toxins and prevent infections by competing with harmful microbes for space and resources in the gut9

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• GI relief by Thorne: This supplement may help soothe and protect the intestinal lining by providing anti-inflammatory and mucilaginous herbs such as licorice, chamomile, slippery elm, marshmallow, and aloe vera.
• FC cidal and Dysbiocide: These supplements may help balance the gut microbiota and eliminate harmful microbes that may contribute to leaky gut. They contain antimicrobial, antifungal, and antiparasitic herbs such as dill, stemona, wormwood, java brucea, Chinese pulsatilla, Jamaica quassia, cutch tree, hedyotis, and yarrow.
• Seeking health Multivitamin One MF: This supplement may provide essential nutrients that may support various aspects of health such as immune function, energy production, cognitive function, cardiovascular function, bone health, skin health, and antioxidant status. Some of these nutrients may also help repair the intestinal lining or modulate the immune system, such as zinc, vitamin D, and Vitamin A.
• Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega Vitamin a Drops: This supplement may provide omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA that may support heart health, brain health, mood balance, joint health, eye health, and immune function. Omega-3 fatty acids may also help reduce inflammation and improve the integrity of the intestinal barrier. Vitamin A may support eye health, mucus membrane health, immune health, and skin health.
• Vitamin C: This supplement may act as an antioxidant and help protect cells from free radical damage. Vitamin C may also support collagen synthesis, wound healing, iron absorption, immune function, and infection resistance. Collagen is a protein that forms the structure of the intestinal lining and helps maintain its integrity.
• Oxy Powder Activated charcoal: Oxy Powder is a colon cleansing supplement that may flush out toxins and waste from the intestinal tract by releasing oxygen. Activated charcoal is a substance that may trap and remove toxins from the body. These supplements may help detoxify the body from harmful substances that may cause leaky gut or inflammation. However, they may also remove beneficial substances such as nutrients or probiotics from the body. Therefore, they should be used with caution and under medical supervision.
• Ultrabiotic defense probiotic with lactobacillus and bifido and saccharomyces boulardii: This supplement may provide beneficial bacteria that may support healthy gut flora balance, immune function, digestive function, nutrient absorption, and regularity. These probiotics may also help the body eliminate toxins and prevent infections by competing with harmful microbes for space and resources in the gut. Saccharomyces boulardii is a yeast that may have anti-inflammatory and anti-diarrheal effects.
• Bilex ox bile: This supplement may provide ox bile extract that may help digest fats and fat-soluble vitamins in the small intestine. Ox bile may also help emulsify cholesterol and prevent gallstones. However, ox bile may not have a direct effect on leaky gut or intestinal permeability.

Vitamin A is a fat-soluble nutrient that plays an important role in immune function, vision, skin health, and growth and development. Vitamin A may also have a beneficial effect on leaky gut, which is a condition where the intestinal lining becomes more permeable and allows undigested food particles, bacteria, and toxins to enter the bloodstream. Leaky gut may cause inflammation and various health problems.
According to some web search results, vitamin A may help with leaky gut in the following ways:

• Vitamin A may improve the tight junctions between the cells that line the small intestine, which control what passes from the gut lumen into the body. This may prevent unwanted substances from leaking through and causing inflammation or infection1
• Vitamin A may have an intricate relationship with the gut microbiota, which are the microorganisms that live in the digestive tract. Together, they may influence the immune function by regulating the B-cell response, which is involved in producing antibodies. Certain gut flora may produce acetate, a short chain fatty acid that may enhance vitamin A absorption and metabolism1
• Vitamin A may help to harmonize the gut microbes and prevent dysbiosis, which is an imbalance of good and bad bacteria in the gut. Dysbiosis may contribute to leaky gut and other digestive disorders. Vitamin A may also protect against gut infections by enhancing the mucosal immunity and barrier function2
• Vitamin A may help to maintain immune system balance in the gut and prevent autoimmune diseases, which are conditions where the immune system attacks healthy tissues. Vitamin A may do this by modulating the type of T cells that are produced in the gut. T cells are a type of white blood cell that help fight infections and regulate inflammation. Vitamin A may promote a type of T cell called Treg, which suppresses excessive immune responses and promotes tolerance. Vitamin A may also inhibit a type of T cell called TH17, which produces pro-inflammatory cytokines and may cause tissue damage3

. Vitamin A is a fat-soluble vitamin that plays an important role in the maintenance of mucosal immunity and barrier function. Mucosal immunity and barrier function are the first line of defense against harmful pathogens and foreign substances that enter the body through the mucous membranes of the digestive, respiratory and reproductive systems1.
Vitamin A deficiency can impair the production and secretion of mucus, which is essential for trapping and clearing out invaders2. Vitamin A deficiency can also affect the structure and function of the epithelial cells that line the mucous membranes, making them more susceptible to damage and infection2. Furthermore, vitamin A deficiency can reduce the number and activity of immune cells in the mucosa, such as dendritic cells, macrophages, innate lymphoid cells, T cells and B cells134. These cells are responsible for detecting and eliminating pathogens, as well as regulating appropriate immune responses to prevent inflammation and tissue damage134.
Therefore, vitamin A may protect against gut infections by enhancing the mucosal immunity and barrier function in several ways. It may help to maintain the integrity and function of the epithelial layer, which forms a physical barrier against pathogens2. It may also help to stimulate the production of mucus, which contains antimicrobial peptides and antibodies that can neutralize pathogens2. Additionally, it may help to modulate the activity and differentiation of immune cells in the mucosa, which can coordinate effective immune responses to eliminate pathogens and prevent excessive inflammation134.

Eridication of HPylori, SIBO, SIFO (Candida), Other Monsters (Heavy Metal, Staphy, Streppto)

Updated 27.08.23
Hey ppl, After 1 year more of research and all the shitty stomach problems, i came up with my own treatment / supplement stack. Btw i live in Germany.

Diet:

I dont eat sugar, i dont eat oxalate rich foods, i dont drink alcohol, i dont smoke. Eating carnivore (+ some low oxalate vegetables like cucumber, zucchini, bellpepper) without milkproducts (i will implement joghurt, kefir and quark later...ok i wont it gives me shit feeling), i dont eat flour food!

My Symptoms / my current problems:

Bloating (after eating sugar and carbohydrates), bloated stomach, postural problems, diarrhea, constipation, vomiting, nausea, weight loss, depression, procastination, headache, joint pain, tiredness, dark circles under the eyes, inflammation, sinuses, skin irritation (around my nose), acne (little pimples around my lips and my skin), eczema, lack of breath (when i was young i was an athlete so i know how a free lung feels like), stomach pain (right lower side), weakness, irritable bowel syndrome, acid reflux (reflux ), heart pressure, heart pumping in situations where i know i dont have to be nervous, frequent belching, intolerances and sensitivities, restless legs syndrome, foggy head, anxiety, gallstones (little ones), forgetfulness, stained tongue, bad breath, vitamin deficiency (b12), nutrient deficiency (iron), food cravings (sugar and carbohydrates), sometimes diehrrea, sometimes constipation, skoleosis (dont know wether it comes from the diseases above), hair is thin and is slowly fading), right shoulder pain (feeling of my right shoulder gets pulled down to the front), knee joint pain on the right side, asymetrical face with right side is higher than the left side, ears inside feeling of "water" wont coming out...or like a fur is growing inside, in the night time i give pressure on my teeth (no grinding),misalignment of my teeth, some speaking problems (feeling of my jaws wont open the right way, feeling of jaw muscles pull to the left side), tight chest on the right side, too much tongue pressure (muscle tension), sometimes extrem high libido - sometimes extrem low libido, voice is high although tsh is low 1,49, sometimes i feel like a teenager its a weird feeling but i dont feel that im 30years old (if i ask ppl they rate me 26), most of the time my confidence is low although i dont have the reason to think like that, some hyperfocus (and no that isnt always good, because i can focus on things while not eat and drink for more then 2 days),

My Backstory:

I visited plenty docs for restless leg, sleeping problems, voice problems, growth problems, digestion problems, bone problems....
As a kid i was very calm but sometimes i had something like adhd where i was hyperactive. As a kid i has often gastritis, sinus and ear problems. Till 12 years i was in a athletic group and won several medals (even with that i was not feeling masculin like the other boys around me with her father figure...but i was into girls so i knew that i was a little normal ;D ). In school i was always daydreaming and good in music and art (undermethylation?). I noticed on photos that around 13 years i developed my asymetrical face (im currently somehow angry that my mother till this day didnt notice anything). Somehow i went into gaming and developed some addiction (wasnt good for my social life but i was happy for not having ppl backstabbung me directly). My confidence was low - my mother always said if some is nerving you simply go away - so i tried my best to avoid every fight (at the end the shittiest thing to do is running away from problems! Now im doing bjj and its the best!). In my last year of school 2012 i came together with my current ex gf. My school grades where not good, but after i did my graduation for industrial mechanic it went very well and got known as some of the best cnc specialist in our company. While my last year of school and while graduating for industrial mechanic i behaved like a naive dog in love. I was stressed like hell but was happy "to had the be love feeling" and enjoyed the relationship.
I worked as an industrial mechanic (cnc manufacture) in late shift and early shift (was stressed out) 01.08.2020 - 31.05.2023, changed that to only early shift because i have sleep disorder and attacked my ex gf while sleep ( i thought she was the gangster i had to protect her from). Went to sleep doctor into lab and got tested for REM Phase. He said that i could have little problems because of 2 shift work -> problem solved around 01.06.23, stayed with cnc - problem: working with metals like AlCuMgPb ( heavy metal toxicity ?!), POM, 90MnCrV8, X210CrW12, X150CrW12, X5CrNi18-10, AND! Coolantfluid (and our company dont change this with the normal necessary cycle so it gets very moldy and rotten!!! mold yeast toxicity ?!) after breakup 22.05.2022 (after 10 years gf left / cheated..she said i act like narcist) i went to psychotherapie and got tested for narcism and some traumas -> no narcism (doctor said that my ex gf could have been narcistic from what i experienced - trauma ?!) maybe some childhood trauma because of no father figure and heavy working mother (low testosteron?).
Plz watch if there are some negative things to say about this! Im happy about every feedback...and NO i dont want take antibiotics, i already took antimytica (nystatin because of mouthsoor) 10 days after my birth my life maybe this fucked me up?. So Part 1 is Phase 1/2/3 together, then Part 2 is Phase 4/5/6
I would like to know wether i should seperate them or take the parts together????
_____________________ - Part 1 - _____________________
.....Phase 1: Biofilm interrupting.....
NAC (n acetyl cysteine - sunday natural) -> ! Cycling! 1 week on 2 days off -> 1x600mg morning, 1x600mg evening 1/2h before meal eempty stomach
Black cumin oil -> morning empty stomach 1 spoon
ALA (Alpha Lipolic acid - sunday natural) -> Im not sure about this (!!!only for chelate!!!) -> every 2,5-3h, start low dosage of 1mg (i dont take this right now)
Propolis -> morning empty stomach 20 drops
Tumeric root powder -> pre meal, 1 spoon
Coconutoil -> pre meal, if possible 4x/day, 1 spoon

• .....Phase 2: Binder / Support liver kidney..... [Here i need your recommendations plz!!!]

Active charcole -> i currently dont take this because you shouldnt take this forever and i would like to know if there are better binders?
Milkthistle (mariendistel - tetesept) -> morning with meal / evening with meal, spacing 6h, 200-400mg
Chlorella - sunday natural-> (!!!only for chelate!!!), evening pre meal, 1x/day, 1g/day
Diametious earth - kieselgur gel-> morning empty stomach, 1x/ day, 1spoon with enough water
+.....Phase 3: Elimination these Bitch Bacteria, etc.....
Bismut Subsilycate - Pepto Bismol -> between meals, 4-6x/day, 3:1 NAC,
Garlic -> no cooking, only raw in salad -> bloating so only crushed works
Cranberry juice -> be careful with sugar, for flushing out parasites, my last chance for relief
Oregano -> cooking with that
Oliveoil -> salad and cooking
Coconutoil -> cooking, mix (see under this section)
Sulphoraphane -> watercress, arugola, zucchini, bell pepper, cucumber ( i dont eat much more ...be careful with oxalates!)
Apolactoferrin - jarrow formula -> 1x/day, 1x250mg i would take this only if you have candida / fungus, mold (it has to be apolactoferrin NOT lactoferrin!)
____________________ - Part 2 - ______________________
.....Phase 4: Healing Stomach & Gut.....
DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice - sunday natural) -> with meal better evening (be careful could manipulate testosteron)
Masic Gum (Mastix - sunday natural) -> empty stomach 30min pre meal after bismut, 4x/day (can increase testosteron because zinc), 4x 250mg
L-Glutamin - sunday natural -> empty stomach pre meal 15min, 2-3x / day, possibly after workout, 3x 5g
Zinc L- Carnosine - sunday natural -> after meal, 2x /day, possibly pre workout, 2x 500mg
MSM - sunday natural -> with meal morning, 2x/ day, be careful can cause molybdenium deficiency, 2x750mg
Vitamin D3
+.....Phase 5: Probiotik..... Btw i dont take this with the elimination phase
Saccharomyces boullardii - sunday natural -> pre sleep, 500-1000mg
L. Reuteri - sunday natural -> pre sleep, 100millions
+.....Phase 6: Prevention.....
Ginger -> tea, shake, mix, meal
Psyllium husks -> 30min-1h pre meal, 1x/ day, 40g, ( be carefull condition is after 2-3 days)
Question: I would take Phase 1 + Phase 2 + Phase 3 and after that Phase 4 + Phase 5 + Phase 6 OR ???? SHOULD I TAKE Part 1 together with all part 2? Do you have any good binders? I would take part 1 2 months - 6months and then part 2?! Right?
Im thankful for every answer This is now my thread and i will add my progression how it goes 😃
For now i have pressure on the right lower side, pelvic floor spasm, digestion problems directly with sugar, milk, and so on. Sometimes suddenly the pressure feeling goes away for some minutes when i eat fish, arugola, eggs, bacon (without sugar,) pork, beef, chicken.
Last Stand would be...antibiotics... pylera (quad therapy + bismut) or prevpac (triple therapy + bismut)
If i fixed my problem i will add Vitamin D3, Magnesium, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B Complex, Ginseng Panax, Beta Carotin, Omega 3, Selenmethionin to my Stack
Thx all !
23.08.23: didnt update cause of rl trouble and vaccation...yesterday i had severe trouble with backpain (couldnt walk anymore) on the right lower side between rips and front low right under my ripcage (thought about gallblader and kidney)...today went to doctor he said it also could be some rips...got some paininfusion with cortison and other things (maaaan i sleept like a child)....he gave me some medication called "etoricoxib Stada 90mg" (1×/day)... Will write a complete update in journal when im home again!
Journal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Main Goal: destroy this fucking Pressure on the right lower Side (i will note it in the Journal when the Pressure Feeling goes away - its like a high because since a long time i have this pressure and the None existance of this Feeling for about 1 min is like a high! all my muscles relax and my posture is going back to normal person) + Hair regrow + being able to eat things without farting like a pooping cow!
Start Journal on 20.07.23 Btw....Day 1 of Part 1: no big change!
21.07.23 UPDATE:Day 2 of Part 1: Bowl Movement seems to get better + My Stool is better (black from Bismut) + feel motivated not tired + ADDED LACTOFERRIN (Apolactoferrin Jarrow Formulars) 250mg 1x/Day (maybe in future i will up this) + tried some Lactosefree Quark + Milk -> light farts
22.07.23 Day 3 of Part 1: i feel some little confidence and little less anxiety, me and friends ate some Burgers without Bread: my Stomach develop some Pressure on the right Side
23.07.23 Day 4 of Part 1: Lunch: added some red Norwegian Salmon, Shrimps, Millet, for Dinner i ate Beef, Coconutoil, Zucchini, Cucumber and the Pressure has eased a little!
24.07.23 Day 5 of Part 1: morning feeling was not good, but midday in my stool was some fungy strains, !!!after that short time felt really good!!!, my selfconfidence came back, additionaly i added some High Dose Thiamin B1 500mg in the morning... so my current morning routine was: taking 1capsule NAC + 2 pepto bismol + 1 tsp black cumin oil with 20 drops of propolis / 9:30 lunch / after that 1 capsule NAC + 2 tablette pepto bismol + 1capsule lactoferrin + 1 capsule milkthistle / after 1h 2tablets Vitamin B1 thiamin (rathiopharm each 250mg) + B Complex....sitting currently at my doctor for ultrasonic (speculation gallblader stone, kidney stone)...after that i will have some dinner with grounded beef and arugola and watercress...today i will space out the meals and have only 2 meals Edit: Ultrasonic wasnt that good. doctor speculates that i have a gallblader stone which stuck sometimes in the tube...i think the carnivore diet broke this stone free but didnt create it. i have to get a date for MRT scan. I threw the word SIBO (Small intestine bacterial overgrowth) in the room and he said it could be possible...i fucking cheated with my friends at chidoba and ate some beef bowl without the wheat tortilla, i ate white cilantro rice, paprika vegetable, quacamole, beef, lime juice... was not good...next day some light farts...
25.07.23 Day 6 of Part 1: and then i thought that lactase free products would be a good idea and bought some quark and joghurt -.- also not good - but f** without the medication i wouldnt have stand through this, this day i went to the Osteopath and got a Jaw Massage -> Short Time lager the Jaw Pressure went away!!! added some cranberry juice for flushing...we will see
26.07.23 Day 7 of Part 1: started the day bloated, skin rashes, pimpels, dark eye rings, not good mood, but medication helped a little... added some cranberry juice for flushing...restless start of sleeping
27.07.23 Day 8 of Part 1: my Tongue improved! the coating on my tongue has receded. cranberry juice from yesterday with some side effects -.- in the afternoon my tongue got worse
28.07.23 Day 9 of Part 1: my tongue went little back to coating level i think because of the juice...but overall some bloating because i ate some coco chips (without sugar)`...me and my best friend binged 2 packages of shrimps and after that i slept reaaaally good wtf..maybe its the omega 3 or astaxanthin? need to research
29.07.23 Day 10 of Part 1: i got a little of flushy poop, but after that i had no right side pressure and no air in my stomach and intestine...big motivation, big confidence, hair growing fast WTF 2mins later the whole pressure is back -.- but maybe i have to eat more sea food, also my tongue gots better me and best friend ate after training tuna and some bacon egg salad...got some little farts but tongue has less coating
30.07.23 Day 11 of Part 1: one more time i have some diarrhea, but its like yesterday where the pressure slowly fades, but now i have heavy pressure under my right rips? maybe gallbladekidney/muscle pain? While Training my high voice (for a male i have a high voice) suddenly drops significant AMAZING! ...i slept really deep
31.07.23 Day 12 of Part 1: waked up a little tired... had some little farts but not a problem (not stinky)...after eating some sausages i had some headache but slept really good, tongue got worse
01.08.23 Day 13 of Part 1: some little farts, i think from the sausages...this day was not really special now i try to stick with my meal plan: breakfast: 5 eggs + package of bacon (without sugar) / or Sockey Salmon then lunch is mostly not existence (i thought about meal spacing, but it could also be contradictionary because of pathogens go deeper for searching nutrition) dinner:400-800g ground beef + butter + coconutoil + herbs + sometimes arugola + some scrambled eggs if i eat less meat...
02.08.23 Day 14 of Part 1: my tongue got better...made homemade thaicurry with chicken coconutmilk bellpepper pakchoy herbs lemongras...my stomach surprisingly had no farts at all and my mood didnt change
03.08.23 Day 15 of Part 1: go some stomach bloating -> i think from the thai curry...some acid reflux after eating my ground beef lunch added some L-Glutamin and Creatin...while Training my voice drops suddenly THIS IS AMAZING!!! im now clear that i have testosteron problems, but why ??? my voice sounds like i have to much mucus in my throat, my mood is explosive gooooood!!!...went sleeping with a little bloated stomach
04.08.23 Day 16 of Part 1: after eating my egg and bacon (+ avocado) breakfast my mood got pretty good, but right side pressure (stomach? small intestine?) is there...before sleep i added 3 omega 3 tablets, we will see
05.08.23 Day 17 of Part 1: had a really good poop, tongue better, maybe its the omega 3 or the astaxanthin in sea food? had some bloating but after farting my mood went really good...OOHH MAN these DÖNER Foods are like devil, ate some ground beef minced skewers bulgur cucumber, it was sooooo tasty, but was really tired after that
06.08.23 Day 18 of Part 1: no prepto bismol for me today, bottle is empty forgot to order new ones, added some magnesium, some REEEED Sockey Wild Salmon for breakfast, mmh nothing special happened, mood was quite good
07.08.23 Day 19 of Part 1: no bismut, nothing special today, added melatonin and l. reuterii to my list before sleep
08.08.23 Day 20 of Part 1: no bismut, mood is good...before training i have so anxiety WTF why??? no need for that, but after training it completly vanished...before sleep melatonin and l.reuterii
09.08.23 Day 21 of Part 1: no bismut, lol i have some cold shiver, is that herxheimer reaction from the l.reuterii???...before sleep im really tired, same time awake?! wtf
10.08.23 Day 22 of Part 1: no bismut, weird shit these cold shivers! my tongue is white hairy WHAT IS THIS!!! like fur, my stomach is working, something triggerd my stomach, i have anxiety like hell,...went to the doctor because of tongue, ear itching, asked about sibo, heavy metal detoxing, but my urine is negative, doctor prescripted some local antibiotics for my ear because of "inear inflammation"?! i didnt take the antibiotic
11.08.23 Day 23 of Part 1: no bismut, i have joint + jaw pain, maybe i should try some tuna, ok bad idea, i have some farts...after training my voice drops like 4 steps down :D i like that
12.08.23 Day 24 of Part 1: no bismut, some little farts but no problem, for lunch some millet and coconutoil...WTF after training i had no more right side pressure and felt like a normal person, i laughed, my mood went crazy good, is this the meal spacing???? but only last 5mins
13.08.23 Day 25 of Part 1: now i have bismut, some sore muscles, ate fish for breakfast, really good mood...today i drunk 5 L of water...and after training we cheated at Döner Food with some ground beef minzed skewer...ate additionaly some chicken breast before sleep but then my stomach went crazy!!!
14.08.23 Day 26 of Part 1: tongue gets better, chicken breast really dry but IT IS LIKE THIS STRING CHEESE reallly tasty and my mood is really good...after massage at my hairstylist i was really relaxed: voice went deepter and my pressure was 2min non existance, Is my Pressure problem maybe a Relax Thing???? maybe its a mix of seea food, relax, intestine???
15.08.23 Day 27 of Part 1: oh shit i woke up thoughtful, dont like it!!!, but after breakfast my mood went up...ate some millet but then got some stomach bloating, tongue got worse, i have that feeling that i have something in my throat...didnt sleep good!
16.08.23 Day 28 of Part 1: very thoughtful, my question for now is: while i writing my little journal (not this here i also have a little book where i write all things about eating, mood and other things) why are my fingers cramping, why does my Font looks like shit, is it the magnesium??? my nerves? i write hectical, without breathing?!...sleep was not good
17.08.23 Day 29 of Part 1: tired, sore muscles, but HEY today im on vaccation...while eating dry chicken breast like some fiber content i got some farting but after that my mood went good...eating with friend fish and shrimps, really good feeling after that, im relaxing, no l reuterii for me this week (forgot it at home)
18.08.23 Day 30 of Part 1: BIG breakfast at hotel with bacon, meatballs, met, cucumber, quark (yeah i know), but hey no reaction...eating at peter pane some bun less burgers, tongue got worse...ate some berrycake with my mother and some green tea, tongue got better WTF IM CONFUSED! i ate sugar but no reaction??...ok shit i got reaction BAAAD FAAARTS
19.08.23 Day 31 of Part 1: Big breakfast with joghurt, tongue worse...ate some fish..ate some applepie with icecream and cream, shiiiiiiitt ahahaha im tired, have farts and my mood isnt good WHAT A good day ^{^}
20.08.23 Day 32 of Part 1: i have right lower side pain -.- not good, but hey im on vaccation! big breakfast with quark, stomach bloating, tired, what else ^...ate some crepes + candy WTF I THOUGHT gonna happen -.- ate some fishbouillon, shrimps, salmon, THIS was really tasty! no reaction and my mood is really good...ate some applepie, icecream and cream and green tea, little farts and no good sleep ahahaha
21.08.23 Day 33 of Part 1: good breakfast without dairy like i shoould have done this before, Pressure on the fucking lower right side, oh shit while driving back from vaccation i ate some oldstyle "nordsee" fishbread with nutedge TASTY BUT with acid reflux, pressure in my stomach, ...ok lets try 4 salmon filet and lactosefree joghurt, NOOT good acid reflux, bloating, pressure, no good sleep
22.08.23 Day 34 of Part 1: Back to normal! supps like my plan,tongue better!, swollen eyes, but after breakfast (like before vaccation) really good mood, side pressure is there...after lunch groundbeef + herbs + cucumber + zucchini SUDDENLY BIIIGG heavvy fuuuucking right lower side pressure under my rips WTFFFF cant even walk! thought about going into ER, i cant even breath, have to pull my right leg, maybe after that SHITTTY vacation eating the amount of fat of my good normal diet was too much?? gallblader? kidney? magnesium and rips cranking? no sleep at all
23.08.23 Day 35 of Part 1: no supps today! pain on the right side...went to the doctor: he said my rips could be damaged WTFFF!!! he gave me some pain infusion with cortison -> the first time in 10 years my voice dropped, i was relaxed, stomach pain stopped, jaw pain stopped, no anxiety, i was sleeping ^...after that good sleep i ate some salad and 4 salmon filet, really good mood and feeling...for dinner i ate first time wheat bread but it gave me little farts
24.08.23 Day 36 of Part 1: no supps BUT 1x Etoricoxib (relaxan), ate my normal diet breakfast + 1 bread and salmon, pressure on the right side sometimes... today i mate some selfmade cake but ate only 1 piece,m gave me farts, no good sleep
25.08.23 Day 37 of Part 1: waking up with slime in my throat (no nac), good breakfast, good mood and my stomach is working...ate a package of sausages (without sugar), thongue is burning wtf...before sleep my heart and stomach is throbbing oO
26.08.23 Day 38 of Part 1: im tired, but motivated, that doesnt make sense right!, breakfast good mood, but pressure.. i ate 800g of ground beef with cilantro leaves and cilantro herb, omg acid reflux...before sleep 2x caps of l reuterii and boullardii, directly sleeping but wtf at 2:00 suddenly REALLY SHIITTy nausea, circulatory problems, vomit, but after that REALLY good feeling and good sleep, i dont understand !!!!???
27.08.23 Day 39 of Part 1: reagulary supps after plan + really good breakfast eggs + bacon (without sugar), good feeling, no tiredness, motivated, doing all of my homework in a short amount of time, but some right side pressure,

I'm creating a gastritis diet and supplement regime, and I want to find a website which has next day delivery on all the following items that delivers within London, UK:
Organic, gluten free oat flour Organic, unsweetened, unsalted almond milk (like Rude Health Ultimate Almond Milk) Organic bananas Organic pea protein powder Organic rice protein powder
Organic chicken breasts Organic salmon fillets Organic eggs
Organic white rice Organic white potatoes
Organic carrots Organic broccoli Organic Brussels sprouts Organic avocados Organic kale
Organic Celtic salt
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice 400mg Tablets (like Natural Factors DGL 400mg Tablets)
Organic chamomile tea Organic fennel tea Organic marshmallow tea

So I contracted pretty severe gastritis in December 2022 after eating greasy foods for like a 3 months lol. I had to get a colonoscopy to rule out IBS or IBD which thankfully came back normal, but an endoscopy confirmed gastritis.
At times the pain was extreme, and this was right in the middle of my second semester of university, so it interfered substantially with my classes.
I promised myself that if I ever healed fully I would make a post about it , and after 3 months of a strict bland diet eating nothing but rice, vegetables, bread, water, and some chicken/fish, I'm happy to say I'm 100% pain-free and can eat whatever I want again.
Some supplements that helped me was stomach chi (https://www.amazon.com/OHCO-Stomach-Chi-Capsules-Sensitivities/dp/B00016WX1C/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=stomach+chi&qid=1683994325&sr=8-1) and DGL, even though it tastes disgusting lol (https://www.amazon.ca/DGL-DEGLYCYRRHIZINATED-LICORICE-ROOT-TABS/dp/B00FWC0QZK).
To anyone suffering atm, don't lose hope and Inshallah you will recover.

I'm coming off of Omeprazole 20mg twice a day on orders from my gastroentologist and was wondering for future reference if taking 3 400mg DGL chewable tablets 30 minutes before the 3 main meals of the day (but not the 2 snacks in between) would work to protect the stomach lining at night, too? Or do I absolutely need sucralfate for that? I've been reading The Gastritis Healing Book if it isn't obvious.
Here's the DGL I want to use:
https://uk.iherb.com/pnatural-factors-dgl-deglycyrrhizinated-licorice-root-extract-90-chewable-tablets/2626

I’d normally hold off a little longer before posting something like this but considering how people are suffering daily I just couldn’t keep anything that might help to myself.
So I started taking pomegranate extract a week ago with licorice root extract and have noticed a dramatic decrease in my symptoms in that time. It’s obviously too early to have cured me if it even does but my brain fog, brain inflammation, dizziness have all reduced by at least 90%. My GI problems have similarly reduced, I still am experiencing episodes of what I could only describe as cramping a couple times a day but they don’t last long. Also the organ pains in my liver and kidney areas have also reduced.
If you subscribe to the viral persistence theory as I do then pomegranate peel extract has shown the ability to inhibit the virus up to 74% and I’ve seen some sources say up to 80%. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2021.638187/full
Similarly licorice root has shown antiviral activity against Covid. Important note about the licorice root though is that you need the full extract and not just Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice which is so popular for acid reflux and stomach problems but you need the Glycyrrhizin as that’s what’s specifically shown antiviral activity against Covid. This might be a problem for some as Glycyrrhizin can raise blood pressure but I’ve been using a small dose and as a bonus pomegranate extract can actually lower blood pressure so hopefully they cancel each other out. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8066091/
Obviously I’ve only been doing this regimen for a week so take everything that I’m saying with a grain of salt as my improvement may not last and I certainly don’t consider myself cured yet but I hope this helps others as it’s helped me so far. Also not a doctor.
I’ve been taking 2 grams of pomegranate extract spread throughout the day and 900 mg of licorice root in the morning. I’m also taking other things but I’ve been taking those for month’s and didn’t notice the improvement until the last week when I added these things in.