Extensor carpi group
Overuse injury from playing piano?
2024.05.18 05:33 thirstySocialist Overuse injury from playing piano?
Hi everyone,
I'm [20FtM] a relatively new student of piano (I've had lessons for the past two semesters at my College), and I've recently been experiencing muscle soreness in my forearms that I think is related to my piano-playing. I believe I've identified the muscle as the extensor carpi radialis brevis. The soreness is present in both forearms, but more prominent in my left forearm. Does anyone know if this is a common injury or if it would be a posture/tension issue that I need to work on? I have a few clips of me playing the piano on my profile if that helps.
I would ask my piano instructor, but I've only just recently noticed it as a problem, and the semester has already ended.
Thank you for your help!
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I'm [20FtM] a relatively new student of piano (I've had lessons for the past two semesters at my College), and I've recently been experiencing muscle soreness in my forearms that I think is related to my piano-playing. I believe I've identified the muscle as the extensor carpi radialis brevis. The soreness is present in both forearms, but more prominent in my left forearm. Does anyone know if this is a common injury or if it would be a posture/tension issue that I need to work on? I have a few clips of me playing the piano on my profile if that helps.
I would ask my piano instructor, but I've only just recently noticed it as a problem, and the semester has already ended.
Thank you for your help!
2024.05.18 05:31 thirstySocialist Overuse injury?
Hi everyone,
I'm a relatively new student of piano (I've had lessons for the past two semesters at my College), and I've recently been experiencing muscle soreness in my forearms that I think is related to my piano-playing. I believe I've identified the muscle as the extensor carpi radialis brevis. The soreness is present in both forearms, but more prominent in my left forearm. Does anyone know if this is a common injury or if it would be a posture/tension issue that I need to work on? I have a few clips of me playing the piano on my profile if that helps.
I would ask my piano instructor, but I've only just recently noticed it as a problem, and the semester has already ended.
Thank you for your help!
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I'm a relatively new student of piano (I've had lessons for the past two semesters at my College), and I've recently been experiencing muscle soreness in my forearms that I think is related to my piano-playing. I believe I've identified the muscle as the extensor carpi radialis brevis. The soreness is present in both forearms, but more prominent in my left forearm. Does anyone know if this is a common injury or if it would be a posture/tension issue that I need to work on? I have a few clips of me playing the piano on my profile if that helps.
I would ask my piano instructor, but I've only just recently noticed it as a problem, and the semester has already ended.
Thank you for your help!
2024.05.18 00:19 Intelligent_Bee0117 Can someone please help explain.
Hello,
My 35 female, just received 15yr old female daughters, MRI results.
Just asking if someone wouldn't mind explaining this to me, as I am waiting for the doctor to call about this but would like be somewhat informed when he calls and be prepared if I have questions.
Background my daughter has had wrist pain, we dont know exactly what hurts, joints, blood vessels, ligaments, etc,(don't know what else we could be looking for) for over 8 years and multiple doctor visits and exams but nothing.
Is there anything in this that would attribute to daily constant pain for her? Or anything I am missing or the doctors are missing that I can ask?
HISTORY: Bilateral wrist pain, chronic. The patient also has ankle pain. As discussed with Dr. Berger and with the mother, it was decided to proceed first with the MRI arthrogram of the most symptomatic wrist which happens to be the dominant side (right side). The patient has the MRI arthrogram of the contralateral side is scheduled in 2 weeks.
TECHNIQUE: A multisequence, multiplanar MRI of the right wrist was obtained. CONTRAST: 3 mL of a mixture of 15 cc of NS, 5 cc of Optiray 320 and 0.1 ml of Gadavist. SEDATION: Versed was administered orally for anxiolysis. COMPARISON: radiographs of the wrist from September 29, 2023 and prior
FINDINGS: Skeletal maturity: Skeletally mature Marrow pattern: Normal physiologic distribution
Bones and bone marrow: There is a branching, T2 hyperintense area in the body of the capitate that may represent intraosseous vasculature. There is mild surrounding bone marrow edema. Otherwise, the bones are intact without evidence of erosions.
Joints: Mild dorsal decentering of the distal ulna at the radioulnar joint is identified of approximately 3 mm. There is preservation of the joint space. Articular cartilage: Preserved.
Effusion: There is adequate distention of the distal radio- and ulnocarpal joints by the injected fluid.
Ganglion/synovial cysts: There is a small synovial cyst arising from the volar aspect of the distal radioulnar joint extending proximally. The cyst measures approximately 1.1 cm in caudocranial dimension x1 cm in transverse diameter x0.3 cm in AP dimension Intrinsic ligaments. Scapholunate ligament: Intact. Lunotriquetral ligament: Intact. Triangular fibrocartilage complex: Intact. Extrinsic ligaments: Not defined but there is no edema in or under the volapalmar or dorsal capsular region. Extensor tendons: EXT carpi radialis longus and brevis. Lister tubercle: There is mild fluid in the tendon sheath of the extensor carpi radialis longus in keeping with tenosynovitis. EXT pollicis longus: Intact. EXT pollicis brevis and abductor pollicis longus: intact EXT digitorum, EXT indicis: Intact. EXT digiti minimi: Intact. EXT carpi ulnaris: There is subluxation of the extensor carpi ulnaris with a heterogeneous, intermediate increased signal of the tendon distal to the joint line. No definite fiber interruption is identified. In addition, there is mild thickening and edema of the tendon sheath at that level in keeping with mild tenosynovitis. Flexor retinaculum: Defined. Flexor tendons and median nerve: Defined, no abnormal signal. Carpal tunnel at level of hamate hook: No abnormal signal. Pisiform level Guyon canal, ulnar artery and nerve: Defined without abnormal signal. Muscles: Pronator quadratus, intrinsic muscles: Intact. Subcutaneous soft tissues: Infiltration site is identified at the dorsum of the wrist
CONCLUSION: Slightly heterogeneous intermediate increased intrasubstance signal of the distal aspect of the extensor carpi ulnaris distal to the joint line in keeping with tendinosis. In addition, there is subluxation of the tendon and mild tenosynovitis. These findings suggest chronic repetitive stress. Mild incongruency of the distal radioulnar joint. Mild tenosynovitis of the extensor carpi radialis longus. Small ganglion cyst arising from the volar aspect of the distal radio-carpal joint.
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My 35 female, just received 15yr old female daughters, MRI results.
Just asking if someone wouldn't mind explaining this to me, as I am waiting for the doctor to call about this but would like be somewhat informed when he calls and be prepared if I have questions.
Background my daughter has had wrist pain, we dont know exactly what hurts, joints, blood vessels, ligaments, etc,(don't know what else we could be looking for) for over 8 years and multiple doctor visits and exams but nothing.
Is there anything in this that would attribute to daily constant pain for her? Or anything I am missing or the doctors are missing that I can ask?
HISTORY: Bilateral wrist pain, chronic. The patient also has ankle pain. As discussed with Dr. Berger and with the mother, it was decided to proceed first with the MRI arthrogram of the most symptomatic wrist which happens to be the dominant side (right side). The patient has the MRI arthrogram of the contralateral side is scheduled in 2 weeks.
TECHNIQUE: A multisequence, multiplanar MRI of the right wrist was obtained. CONTRAST: 3 mL of a mixture of 15 cc of NS, 5 cc of Optiray 320 and 0.1 ml of Gadavist. SEDATION: Versed was administered orally for anxiolysis. COMPARISON: radiographs of the wrist from September 29, 2023 and prior
FINDINGS: Skeletal maturity: Skeletally mature Marrow pattern: Normal physiologic distribution
Bones and bone marrow: There is a branching, T2 hyperintense area in the body of the capitate that may represent intraosseous vasculature. There is mild surrounding bone marrow edema. Otherwise, the bones are intact without evidence of erosions.
Joints: Mild dorsal decentering of the distal ulna at the radioulnar joint is identified of approximately 3 mm. There is preservation of the joint space. Articular cartilage: Preserved.
Effusion: There is adequate distention of the distal radio- and ulnocarpal joints by the injected fluid.
Ganglion/synovial cysts: There is a small synovial cyst arising from the volar aspect of the distal radioulnar joint extending proximally. The cyst measures approximately 1.1 cm in caudocranial dimension x1 cm in transverse diameter x0.3 cm in AP dimension Intrinsic ligaments. Scapholunate ligament: Intact. Lunotriquetral ligament: Intact. Triangular fibrocartilage complex: Intact. Extrinsic ligaments: Not defined but there is no edema in or under the volapalmar or dorsal capsular region. Extensor tendons: EXT carpi radialis longus and brevis. Lister tubercle: There is mild fluid in the tendon sheath of the extensor carpi radialis longus in keeping with tenosynovitis. EXT pollicis longus: Intact. EXT pollicis brevis and abductor pollicis longus: intact EXT digitorum, EXT indicis: Intact. EXT digiti minimi: Intact. EXT carpi ulnaris: There is subluxation of the extensor carpi ulnaris with a heterogeneous, intermediate increased signal of the tendon distal to the joint line. No definite fiber interruption is identified. In addition, there is mild thickening and edema of the tendon sheath at that level in keeping with mild tenosynovitis. Flexor retinaculum: Defined. Flexor tendons and median nerve: Defined, no abnormal signal. Carpal tunnel at level of hamate hook: No abnormal signal. Pisiform level Guyon canal, ulnar artery and nerve: Defined without abnormal signal. Muscles: Pronator quadratus, intrinsic muscles: Intact. Subcutaneous soft tissues: Infiltration site is identified at the dorsum of the wrist
CONCLUSION: Slightly heterogeneous intermediate increased intrasubstance signal of the distal aspect of the extensor carpi ulnaris distal to the joint line in keeping with tendinosis. In addition, there is subluxation of the tendon and mild tenosynovitis. These findings suggest chronic repetitive stress. Mild incongruency of the distal radioulnar joint. Mild tenosynovitis of the extensor carpi radialis longus. Small ganglion cyst arising from the volar aspect of the distal radio-carpal joint.
2024.05.15 08:51 New_Meal_7839 Why do the vast majority of us Indians have dark elbows? and many having dark knees as well?
Why is this exclusively prevalent among ethnic groups like ours, and some others like perhaps individuals of African descent? You don't see this among white/caucasian ppl. Most of them have evenly toned elbows & knees, and even those that do have some discoloration, have red elbows & knees instead of dark brown like we do. This seems to occur even among fair-skinned Indians. I'm asking this purely outta curiosity. I looked up the scientific literature to find an answer; this condition seems to be called FADES (Frictional asymptomatic darkening of the extensor surfaces). But if this is the case, then why do white individuals not get this skin thickening/hyperkeratosis on the joints as commonly as we do? And even when they do, the discoloration is red, unlike the darkening we get.
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2024.05.14 08:38 Due_Drink9378 Is tenosynovitis dfferent from tendonitis?
I have ultrasound on my right wrist and here are the results
Indications:
Pain at the ulnar edge of the carpus in an athlete.
Results:
Increase in volume of the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon. This presents a regular fibrillar echostructure without signs of cracking. It has a nodular appearance.
There is fluid effusion in its synovial sheath, 2 mm thick and extending over 13 mm. Normal appearance of the other carpal extensor and flexor tendons.
No synovial cyst. No joint effusion.
Conclusion:
Tenosynovitis of the extensor carpi ulnaris.
I don't know if I also have tendonitis but the pain is not that painful now compared to the first week, I have the injury because a 25kg slide on my hand a sudden pressure.
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Indications:
Pain at the ulnar edge of the carpus in an athlete.
Results:
Increase in volume of the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon. This presents a regular fibrillar echostructure without signs of cracking. It has a nodular appearance.
There is fluid effusion in its synovial sheath, 2 mm thick and extending over 13 mm. Normal appearance of the other carpal extensor and flexor tendons.
No synovial cyst. No joint effusion.
Conclusion:
Tenosynovitis of the extensor carpi ulnaris.
I don't know if I also have tendonitis but the pain is not that painful now compared to the first week, I have the injury because a 25kg slide on my hand a sudden pressure.
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2024.05.03 23:46 InvestigatorFew3731 What does it mean?
Right wrist injury approximately six weeks ago. Wore splint for three weeks then cleared without restriction. Mri was taken 5 weeks into injury and having horrible pain on ulnar side going into elbow, extreme joint instability on ulnar side with popping an clicking
Results from mri read:
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Results from mri read:
- There is about 2 mm notch-like defect in the volar and proximal aspect of the lunate with a 2 mm loose body dorsal to the radial lunate joint, appears chronic in nature (series 9, image 10). 2. There is small, localized edema at the dorsal to the distal ulna, concerning of a small tear at the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon sheath component of the TFCC. The rest of the components of the TFCC are intact.
- There is also increased gap between the compartment 5 and compartment 6 extensor tendons that could be transient or positional due to dorsal glide of the distal ulna
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2024.04.29 00:24 throwawaytothetenth Strange phenomenom after slamming my elbow through sheet metal on accident
A couple of weeks ago, I slipped and fell, and ending up slamming my elbow into a washing machine so hard it cracked the metal and folded the corner in.
It hurt really bad at first, but I've had a broken arm before and at least thought there was no way it was fractured. Haven't lost any range of motion; I go to the gym regularly and haven't had any lifts impeded; including those that put a lot of strain on the elbows including heavy bench press and triceps pushdowns.
However- in the affected arm, it seems like there's something wrong with the muscles in the forearm. The extensor carpi always feel overworked, in fact dramatically overworded, compared to the unaffected arm. This started immediately following the elbow injury.
Any thoughts? Feel free to ask any questions.
Of note: Male, 25, non smoker, mild drinker, very active, 6'6, 210lbs, no pertinent medical history, no prior injuries to the affected arm.
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It hurt really bad at first, but I've had a broken arm before and at least thought there was no way it was fractured. Haven't lost any range of motion; I go to the gym regularly and haven't had any lifts impeded; including those that put a lot of strain on the elbows including heavy bench press and triceps pushdowns.
However- in the affected arm, it seems like there's something wrong with the muscles in the forearm. The extensor carpi always feel overworked, in fact dramatically overworded, compared to the unaffected arm. This started immediately following the elbow injury.
Any thoughts? Feel free to ask any questions.
Of note: Male, 25, non smoker, mild drinker, very active, 6'6, 210lbs, no pertinent medical history, no prior injuries to the affected arm.
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2024.04.25 13:14 comptons_finest_ Best Served Cold - Script ideas
Rereading Best Served Cold. Here are my very scattered and long winded thoughts on how to adapt the story into a feature film script. I wonder if Joe’s screenplay shares any of the following sentiments…
STORY
Cut out Gobba and Mauthis characters/ sequences.
Then Puranti / fight with Faithful Carpi along with betrayal of Morveer as pre third act low point.
Then finale with Rogont coronation and then showdown with Orso.
-Cut out war scenes in Ospria, Shenkt and Sajaam, stuff wih Yuri.
Would have to significantly cut down character plots for it to fit in one movie
Flashbacks of Monza and Benna’s time as mercenaries would remain as narrative framing. Would be juxtaposed against Monza’s relationship with Shivers as crucial character building.
Morveer would remain tertiary antagonist / final act villain. His big moment would be poisoning the crown as his scene at bank would be cut.
Scenes with Orso and Shenkt plotting following death of his sons would be replaced by Orso instead asking either Faithful Carpi or Ganmark to handle Monza.
CAST
Main roles/billing would be:
Monza Shivers Cosca Morveer Benna Orso
Supporting
Rogont Salier Vitari Friendly Day
Aario, foscar, ganmark, faithful carpi would feature in opening scene and their respective deaths.
If Rebecca Ferguson is now too busy (due to newfound stardom following dune), My choice for Monza would be Daniella Melchior who imo is perfect age, look and would likely be available. She has never lead a film but I believe she could pull it off.
A popular fan cast for Morveer is Anton Lesser (Qyburn in got). While he would indeed be perfect, my hot take is someone a bit younger, a bit more ‘weasel like’ should be given the role.
What do fellow best served cold fans/screenwriters think?
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STORY
Cut out Gobba and Mauthis characters/ sequences.
- Bank scene is thematically similar to party anyways. Both see the group infiltrate a tightly guarded institution which results in collateral damage.
- A shame as he is cool character and him pursuing group would be very cinematic however, even in book his role is somewhat superfluous.
- Shivers saves Monza from death and rest of crew is recruited all at once in Spani in classic heist movie fashion.
- Both would die here instead of just one.
- Eider and Jezal scenes would be cut.
Then Puranti / fight with Faithful Carpi along with betrayal of Morveer as pre third act low point.
Then finale with Rogont coronation and then showdown with Orso.
-Cut out war scenes in Ospria, Shenkt and Sajaam, stuff wih Yuri.
Would have to significantly cut down character plots for it to fit in one movie
- This would unfortunately include Cosca who perhaps could (fake) die halfway through after all. His banter with Monza is contained to first half and his role in story overall would be less about him and Monza’s history, but instead providing exposition on Monza relationship with Benna. He would still be a big presence / scene stealer and be played by a big name actor, (think obi wan in og Star Wars)
- Coscas best moments are in first half of book anyway. His scenes in second half are mainly between him and members of thousand swords, which would be too much to fit in. Someone else would have to kill Morveer or it could still be Cosca and it would be a third act twist of him being alive.
Flashbacks of Monza and Benna’s time as mercenaries would remain as narrative framing. Would be juxtaposed against Monza’s relationship with Shivers as crucial character building.
Morveer would remain tertiary antagonist / final act villain. His big moment would be poisoning the crown as his scene at bank would be cut.
Scenes with Orso and Shenkt plotting following death of his sons would be replaced by Orso instead asking either Faithful Carpi or Ganmark to handle Monza.
CAST
Main roles/billing would be:
Monza Shivers Cosca Morveer Benna Orso
Supporting
Rogont Salier Vitari Friendly Day
Aario, foscar, ganmark, faithful carpi would feature in opening scene and their respective deaths.
If Rebecca Ferguson is now too busy (due to newfound stardom following dune), My choice for Monza would be Daniella Melchior who imo is perfect age, look and would likely be available. She has never lead a film but I believe she could pull it off.
A popular fan cast for Morveer is Anton Lesser (Qyburn in got). While he would indeed be perfect, my hot take is someone a bit younger, a bit more ‘weasel like’ should be given the role.
What do fellow best served cold fans/screenwriters think?
2024.04.23 04:10 BeardMaybe30 3 years of undiagnosed wrist pain
Male 31. I have had recurring wrist pain, and carpal tunnel like symptoms. However, no test has been conclusive about CT. I am wondering if either tendinosis or subluxation could be the cause of my pain.
This is the result of my right wrist MRI:
Osseous structures/joint spaces: Bone marrow signal intensity is within normal limits. No fracture or dislocation is identified. No focal cartilage defect is visualized.
Ligaments: The scapholunate and lunotriquetral ligament complexes are intact. The triangular fibrocartilage complex is unremarkable.
Tendons: Medial subluxation of the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon is present at the level of the ulnar styloid process. Mild extensor carpi ulnaris tendinosis is also seen. The flexor tendons and remaining extensor tendons are otherwise of normal course, caliber, and morphology.
Muscles/subcutaneous tissues: There is no disproportionate muscle atrophy. Subcutaneous tissues are unremarkable.
Neurovascular: No abnormality is identified within the carpal tunnel. The contents of Guyon's canal are intact.
Could the subluxation or tendinosis be the cause of pain?
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This is the result of my right wrist MRI:
Osseous structures/joint spaces: Bone marrow signal intensity is within normal limits. No fracture or dislocation is identified. No focal cartilage defect is visualized.
Ligaments: The scapholunate and lunotriquetral ligament complexes are intact. The triangular fibrocartilage complex is unremarkable.
Tendons: Medial subluxation of the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon is present at the level of the ulnar styloid process. Mild extensor carpi ulnaris tendinosis is also seen. The flexor tendons and remaining extensor tendons are otherwise of normal course, caliber, and morphology.
Muscles/subcutaneous tissues: There is no disproportionate muscle atrophy. Subcutaneous tissues are unremarkable.
Neurovascular: No abnormality is identified within the carpal tunnel. The contents of Guyon's canal are intact.
Could the subluxation or tendinosis be the cause of pain?
2024.04.16 20:36 1HPMatt Is this a Goated Mouse Grip? Mouse Grip Analysis (Zywoo, Twistzz, Donk, M0nesy)
 | Hey Everyone! I'm Matt and I'm a Doctor of Physical Therapy and founder of 1-hp.org. We're a team of medical professionals who have worked with esports teams over the past 8 years (TL, 100T, Shopify, C9, Flyquest, NRG, SEN, etc.) and I have been asked this question from many of the gamers and pros I have worked with so I decided to share my thoughts here & fully analyze the grip submitted by 1HPMatt to GlobalOffensive [link] [comments] https://preview.redd.it/o5skqtzfwvuc1.png?width=362&format=png&auto=webp&s=61fd35b9793f065ea231f461a0c84a81fdd35d68 Is this the greatest mouse grip of all time? Donk, M0nesy, Zywoo, Twistzz all use a form of this grip. Let’s break this down from a biomechanical and performance perspective This has become a more popular grip over the years but seems to be the most popular across the tac FPS community. There is a reason for this as tactical FPS games, especially at the highest level, are primarily about crosshair placement & angle clearing (slicing the pie) vs. edge-locking. This limits the overall mouse activity needed. Tactical FPS mouse movement is also horizontally dominant in nature as evident through these mouse movement maps. Being able to increase control of the mouse for these relatively smaller angles is important and this grip can help with that. https://preview.redd.it/lp4bzydrwvuc1.png?width=523&format=png&auto=webp&s=62813a3ec613fb8fae0fa9192c29db2c1db169b1 https://preview.redd.it/oxn5b45swvuc1.png?width=533&format=png&auto=webp&s=a23469fb9aedb33b1cb74ddcd05350426016a3be Here are the biomechanics of why it can increase control This grip can be considered a hover palm/claw hybrid. With this grip the finger contact points are shifted forward which effectively moves the center of mass forward. But what is more interesting about this grip is that it reduces the distance between the wrist joint (primary point of control) and the OPTICAL sensor of the mouse. With the joint actually closer to the optical sensor, it creates increased overall sense of control. You can test this for yourself and feel the difference in smoothness when you try the actual position yourself within the smaller ranges of motion. https://preview.redd.it/39j4ysh6xvuc1.png?width=462&format=png&auto=webp&s=8ced81720cf74bbc165a54416c3b18c7ae42519d https://preview.redd.it/uftq7i67xvuc1.png?width=405&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3ce0515d537955528618801fcfb82d0a7734d83 Other things to consider Other variables to consider with regards to this grip are the mouse, mousepad and hand size Depending on the mouse skates & mousepad there may be a certain level of friction which can affect the sensitivity and overall control. For example using an artisan hien fx soft vs. MP510. https://preview.redd.it/dehhcq3rxvuc1.png?width=499&format=png&auto=webp&s=7477b6dc391b4d5484afc0601c6b9fd2a3306164 This is especially relevant to this grip because of the downward pressure associated with this style. The downward pressure can also affect the friction and feel of the overall grip. More downward pressure will create more overall friction and slower mouse movement. I’m sure the individual selection of mousepad / mouse combinations are reflective of the desired friction or feel from each of the pros who use this grip. Or they can just modify the pressure downward to get their desired feel. https://preview.redd.it/43m1baraxvuc1.png?width=401&format=png&auto=webp&s=6742615420bde70344b5c6b825e3d52a718dbafc The hand to mouse size ratio is also important to consider. Larger hands (when the mouse size is the same) can also potentially shorten the distance between the joint (body’s point of control) and the optical sensor (peripheral point of control). Again just some variables to consider and can explain why certain individuals might choose specific mice considerate of their own individual anatomy https://preview.redd.it/p1jit1knxvuc1.png?width=435&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8c21ba50cfaca220ae6abc331de014db70462cf Using this grip can increase the amount of muscle use on the PALM-sided muscles. Again the misconception is often that it can increase the use of the extensor muscles. This is only true when the FOREARM is floating. Depending on the amount of downward pressure utilized, it may also involve the triceps but the downward pressure is mainly applied through the forearm flexors. This means anyone who is using this group should be strengthening / building endurance of these muscles and stretching them regularly between games. Here are a few exercises you can do to target this specific region
So should you use this grip? This is probably what everyone wants to know. My answer is.. Use what is comfortable for you and stick with it. Everyone is different and as you can tell there are MANY variables that can affect mouse control (grip, DPI, sens, mouse, downward pressure, pad friction etc.). Yes you can optimize your mechanical skill for a specific esports title… but what are the actual performance returns? Performance is multi-factorial in esports and there is an over fascination with optimizing mechanical skill performance in the space. While it DOES matter, performance is affected by MANY things and arguably at the highest level the mental game plays a larger factor. When pros are in flow, the difference in HS% or mechanical skill won’t be too different. But the mental toughness and performance psychology needed to succeed over multiple tournaments, lengthy competitions and unique team environments is what often sets aside the Goats from the great. So Try it if you want, but whatever you end up doing, stick with it and don’t focus too much on it. https://preview.redd.it/ctkrmnlzxvuc1.png?width=376&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e7dbf6de0e14685f7466b4d9d3e7b02f8e0910a Hope this is helpful for anyone who has wondered about this grip and whether or not you should use it. Realize what muscles and regions it utilizes (flexors) so you can use it without increasing your risk of pain or injury! |