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Christian Marriage is a subreddit for marrieds, soon-to-be marrieds, daters, and singles for discussing all things related to marriage from a Christian perspective. It's a place where you can share your struggles and victories. A place where you can pray and encourage others. A place where you can testify about what God has done. **From our Rules: God’s intention for sex is within a marriage between a man and a woman. Any posts or comments which seek to undermine this will be removed.**
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2024.05.21 14:48 Jaded_Aardvark_2036 what do we lack in Morocco (pt 1, religion)
i have been really trying to think recently about the differences countries like Morocco have in comparison to first world countries.
and while doing that I came to recognize couple bullet points that i think mostly somewhat explain the way things are, and I hope someone who actual academic knowledge about these things comes forward to add or correct me (m neither well read nor do I hold any sort deep knowledge about history and politics, I know these differences are highly subjective and u can regard them as good or bad the tittle is just a sort of clickbait ig)
i prefer to write them down one by one to make the discussion easier and if u need ref to a certain fact i mentioned lmk
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and while doing that I came to recognize couple bullet points that i think mostly somewhat explain the way things are, and I hope someone who actual academic knowledge about these things comes forward to add or correct me (m neither well read nor do I hold any sort deep knowledge about history and politics, I know these differences are highly subjective and u can regard them as good or bad the tittle is just a sort of clickbait ig)
i prefer to write them down one by one to make the discussion easier and if u need ref to a certain fact i mentioned lmk
religion
-I couldn’t come to deny the effects religion had on Morocco; it obviously is a Muslim country, gives ruling rights based on religious allegiance and beliefs, also implements them in laws either by deriving morality from religious teachings or outright turning religious texts into law.- islamic laws were implemented in the birth of our country, OfCourse in a lot of cases (like marriages), these laws were not reliable and left a lot to the judge's judgement and what religious fatwa did he follow, and these laws were also somewhat challenged and changed during our history (e.g modwanat l2osra), and these changes even though debatable were sometimes positives, something that really stands out in my mind is slavery which is allowed yet frowned upon in islam so in 1883 morocco was given an official suggestion by the British foreign office to ban slave trade (Transformations in Slavery: A History of Slavery in Africa p 289 ), but Morocco refused to introduce such a ban. That was mainly due to the religious confirmation that slavery was halal, only for slavery to be banned by the colonial french, ofcourse we see this still in the modern debate about changes in modawanat l2osra freedom of speech against islam or the state leaders, personal freedoms, privacy, rights, all of these are really huge subjects that i can't fit in one post, however i have enough facts and standing to believe islam is being weaponized as to stop freedom, rights... etc while ignoring that it never contained detailed laws for crimes nor did islam ever claim to be a guide how to govern a country(it never discussed how a country should be ruled in a detailed manner nor did it put forward detailed citizen rights..)
- in the book "The story of American freedom" eric foner differentiates between the old freedom and new freedom, in simple terms the freedom religion presents is the og freedom that people knew and was supported by the rulers, a freedom from "sin" from "selfishness" by supporting what society deems as good and not what we see as good for us.( if not, then we are slaves to our own desires and not free) you can sense this type of freedom if you ask a moroccan if having sex should be a personal freedom. the new personal freedom is what gives individuals rights like free speech even if it hurts feelings or goes against popular believes. in a world where we should balance these ideas moroccan freedom is one clearly influences by religion, morals, society, and the need to keep criticism away from political figures, e.g christian moroccans not being able to go into churches to pray, and the cases where people speaking against tatbi3 with israel were dubbed against the king and the state and sent to jail.
2024.05.21 14:47 Cessnerd77 Marriage in under a year? Thoughts
Hi! I know dating and the timeframe for being married is a highly debated subject in Christianity, but I’m wondering if anyone here has had any success in a marriage with someone they knew for less than a year?
edit: headline should be “Marriage in under a year- thoughts?”
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edit: headline should be “Marriage in under a year- thoughts?”
2024.05.21 14:47 Janie_Phalange Does God Fulfill the Desire for Marriage?
People have been telling me that if you have a desire to get married, God honors that and answers your prayers—at the right time. But I’ve known many Christian women who are retired and still unmarried. Most of them say they would have liked to get married, but it just never happened for them. What your thoughts on this? What are your thoughts on this? Do you think God always fulfills the desire for marriage? If not, why do you think is that so?
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2024.05.21 13:51 IsoQiho Do Orthodox Christians generally save themselves for marriage
Women in particular. I’d very much like to be someone’s first and last.
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2024.05.21 13:15 Rimuru_04 Guys is this real???
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2024.05.21 12:57 cinnamonvanilla14 Having Second Thoughts 2 Months Before my Wedding
I was baptized Christian as a child but have since considered myself non-religious. My fiancé is technically Catholic, though is no longer actively practicing except when he goes home to appease his parents. Both he and his family insist on a Catholic wedding, and his mother even refused to go to her oldest daughter’s wedding a few years prior because of it being secular. I agreed to a Catholic wedding due to not wanting to stir up family drama, though I have actively told my fiancé that I am not happy about it and will most likely be uncomfortable throughout the entire ceremony, which makes me very sad. Our marriage request was approved by the priest and we are set to be married in 2 months. I am starting to have second thoughts for a variety of reasons, not only because of the religious aspect.
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- I am extremely mentally unwell and am not sure if I am capable of enjoying my own wedding day. I have dealt with debilitating depression my entire life, but it has been getting worse as the wedding approaches. I feel like I will never be able to give my partner a nice, happy life because I am not capable of being happy.
- I have been having to sacrifice everything in order to earn the approval of family. My partner has talked to me about how we should keep his family in our lives and have the religious ceremony so that we will have support if we ever find ourselves in a situation where one of us loses our job, or if we ever are in desperate need of help. His family really likes me, but I feel like that’s only because I hide everything about me that they wouldn’t like and basically cosplay as a “good Christian girl” every time I come over. Anything that isn’t “traditional” has been turned down. I am not a traditional person and never have been. It feels like nothing about this wedding is actually about me.
- His mother is very opinionated and he is incapable of telling her no. She has thoughts about everything and views her own word as law. My partner has long drawn out conversations with her anytime they have a disagreement because he cannot tell her no. He claims that he is only trying to keep her happy until the wedding day and that he will defend our right to live as we please once we are married, but I don’t know if I believe that. Her most recent problem has been wanting to control how my partner is “allowed” to style his hair for the wedding.
2024.05.21 12:35 ManonFire63 Identity Politics and the Soul Part I
Christians are to love The Lord their God with all their Heart and Soul and Strength and Mind. This is the basis of Christianity. What does it mean to love God with your soul? What is the soul? Soul has a lot to do with identity. I would like to talk about identity politics; however, there is a learning curve. Someone may need to understand The Soul.
Discovering The Soul
When someone is talking about The Soul, which Soul are they referencing? Plato and The Soul? Abstract Philosophy God and the Soul? The Bible, and how The Bible references The Soul? Working to explain The Soul and The Bible, I have worked to do so in a way that your average person may be able to understand, and find or feel their soul. He are starting with a perception, we postulate that the Soul is a person, and has to do with decision making and identity, and given scripture, and various media or cultural references of The Soul, we may be able to see if we are right, and a bigger picture.
Given you understand what The Soul is in the Bible, someone may begin to understand exorcism. They may understand Identity Politics, and what it actually is in spiritual warfare. They may come out with greater understanding of creation and God.
The Basis of Christianity
What is a Soul? A soul is a person. Given a The King of Salem had 50 Souls, he had fifty persons or servants. How did they identify themselves? Possibly as a servant of The King of Salem in some way. Loving The Lord with all your SOUL, may have to do with identity. Who was someone serving? Was someone a Servant of "Something Else" or a Servant of God? A child of God? A son of God? These may be good things to be as a Christian looking to love God with your Soul or identity.
A couple years ago I lived in walking distance from Duke University. Given someone was a Duke fan, or Duke Alumni, or had a lot of Duke Paraphernalia, they may have loved Duke University. How did they love Duke University? They loved Duke with their Soul or Identity. Someone with a Duke T-Shirt may be saying something about who he is, or was, or would like to be. When Duke wins or has done well in basketball, someone who loved Duke with their Soul or identity, they may have rejoiced? They felt good? In their soul, they rejoice, and feel a sense of happiness. That is where the soul is. Given anyone has been a sports fan at some point, and has identified as a fan of ___________ their soul rejoices when their team does well. Given I was to look up Soul in a Bible concordance, there are many of these feeling or sensing type verses where the soul is a place inside someone where there is passion. Someone loving God with Their Soul in a world of materialism and commercialism may have given up their Nike and Adidas, to be more as "Plain as John the Baptist?"
Given a musician signed a record contract, and said record contract was very strict, did said musician "Sell their Soul?" Given a musician has to sing all the songs said record company tells them to, and be at A or B place at a certain time, as said record company tells them to, and said musician has very little free will, would that be "Selling The Soul?" Given the record company was a servant of "The Purple Gang," or Kabbalists, or some other group not serving God, that may have been someone selling their soul to the devil? When we get the basics of what the Bible describes the Soul to be, there are a lot of interesting topics that come up. The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss? Their is freedom in The Lord.
The Soul and Identity.
True Statements:
Looking at the Soul like this, someone may be able to see God. (And Satan.) The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss?
Spirits
Given we are coming into an understanding of The Soul, what are Spirits? Spirits effect motivations. Here is a short list of some spirits mentioned.
Given someone has God's Holy Spirit, they say "Jesus is Lord." They may tend to think about God, and talk about God a lot, and be prone to God-centric activities. Their Soul, and God's Holy Spirit, overtime, may have entwined. They are "One with God" leading towards an understanding of Theosis.
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Discovering The Soul
When someone is talking about The Soul, which Soul are they referencing? Plato and The Soul? Abstract Philosophy God and the Soul? The Bible, and how The Bible references The Soul? Working to explain The Soul and The Bible, I have worked to do so in a way that your average person may be able to understand, and find or feel their soul. He are starting with a perception, we postulate that the Soul is a person, and has to do with decision making and identity, and given scripture, and various media or cultural references of The Soul, we may be able to see if we are right, and a bigger picture.
Given you understand what The Soul is in the Bible, someone may begin to understand exorcism. They may understand Identity Politics, and what it actually is in spiritual warfare. They may come out with greater understanding of creation and God.
The Basis of Christianity
- 5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.. (Deuteronomy 6:5)
- He answered, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" (Luke 10:27)
What is a Soul? A soul is a person. Given a The King of Salem had 50 Souls, he had fifty persons or servants. How did they identify themselves? Possibly as a servant of The King of Salem in some way. Loving The Lord with all your SOUL, may have to do with identity. Who was someone serving? Was someone a Servant of "Something Else" or a Servant of God? A child of God? A son of God? These may be good things to be as a Christian looking to love God with your Soul or identity.
A couple years ago I lived in walking distance from Duke University. Given someone was a Duke fan, or Duke Alumni, or had a lot of Duke Paraphernalia, they may have loved Duke University. How did they love Duke University? They loved Duke with their Soul or Identity. Someone with a Duke T-Shirt may be saying something about who he is, or was, or would like to be. When Duke wins or has done well in basketball, someone who loved Duke with their Soul or identity, they may have rejoiced? They felt good? In their soul, they rejoice, and feel a sense of happiness. That is where the soul is. Given anyone has been a sports fan at some point, and has identified as a fan of ___________ their soul rejoices when their team does well. Given I was to look up Soul in a Bible concordance, there are many of these feeling or sensing type verses where the soul is a place inside someone where there is passion. Someone loving God with Their Soul in a world of materialism and commercialism may have given up their Nike and Adidas, to be more as "Plain as John the Baptist?"
Given a musician signed a record contract, and said record contract was very strict, did said musician "Sell their Soul?" Given a musician has to sing all the songs said record company tells them to, and be at A or B place at a certain time, as said record company tells them to, and said musician has very little free will, would that be "Selling The Soul?" Given the record company was a servant of "The Purple Gang," or Kabbalists, or some other group not serving God, that may have been someone selling their soul to the devil? When we get the basics of what the Bible describes the Soul to be, there are a lot of interesting topics that come up. The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss? Their is freedom in The Lord.
The Soul and Identity.
True Statements:
- The Song of Songs is in the Bible as a representation of God's Love for Israel or The Church.
- In the New Testament, The Church is a Bride for Christ.
- Christ is to man as a man is to woman or Christ is the head of man as man is the head of woman. (1 Corinthians 11:3)
Woman is meek before her husband. Man is meek before God. A woman loving her husband with her heart and soul may have taken his name. She is forging a new identity as Mrs. _____________. A married woman with a hyphenated last name is one foot in, one foot out? Who or what does she love more? Her husband or Feminism? Maybe she didn't quite want to leave her family and her old identity behind as a single female or "Daughter of?" Feminists tend towards socialism. Is a woman really married to her husband or more married to The State? Woman is meek before her husband. A man is meek before God.
Looking at the Soul like this, someone may be able to see God. (And Satan.) The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss?
Spirits
Given we are coming into an understanding of The Soul, what are Spirits? Spirits effect motivations. Here is a short list of some spirits mentioned.
- Deaf and dumb spirit (Mark 9:17-29)
- Lying spirit (II Chronicles 18:20-22)
- Perverse spirit (Isaiah 19:14; Romans 1:17-32)
- Seducing spirit (I Timothy 4:1)
- More at: https://www.christcenteredmall.com/teachings/evil-spirits.htm
Given someone has God's Holy Spirit, they say "Jesus is Lord." They may tend to think about God, and talk about God a lot, and be prone to God-centric activities. Their Soul, and God's Holy Spirit, overtime, may have entwined. They are "One with God" leading towards an understanding of Theosis.
2024.05.21 11:18 Sensitive_Dealer_737 Feeling Guilty about being Gay all the time
I grew up being a Born Again Christian, I am still practicing and I truly believe in Jesus Christ.
My mum as a devout Christian was always against my “lifestyle” and had caused me major trauma which led me to leave home permanently as soon as I could.
I have since forgave her but still processing everything that happened.
I am happily living with my partner for almost 8 years now. He is actually my fiancee since he had asked me to marry him a few years ago.
During that time, I have told him that I do love him but I don’t think I will go into marriage with a man. He understands my background and situtation so currently we are happy with this set up.
One major reason, that I don’t think I will ever get married is the belief I have that being gay and acting on it is still a sin.
Everyday, I still think about it how maybe, God won’t let me in his kingdom. I keep asking God to forgive me for my sins on my nightly prayers and I just hope in my heart that he will.
I just cannot fathom that He will cast me out because of who I love but also at the same time, I feel the guilt.
Is anyone out there who can relate or also feel the same way?
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My mum as a devout Christian was always against my “lifestyle” and had caused me major trauma which led me to leave home permanently as soon as I could.
I have since forgave her but still processing everything that happened.
I am happily living with my partner for almost 8 years now. He is actually my fiancee since he had asked me to marry him a few years ago.
During that time, I have told him that I do love him but I don’t think I will go into marriage with a man. He understands my background and situtation so currently we are happy with this set up.
One major reason, that I don’t think I will ever get married is the belief I have that being gay and acting on it is still a sin.
Everyday, I still think about it how maybe, God won’t let me in his kingdom. I keep asking God to forgive me for my sins on my nightly prayers and I just hope in my heart that he will.
I just cannot fathom that He will cast me out because of who I love but also at the same time, I feel the guilt.
Is anyone out there who can relate or also feel the same way?
2024.05.21 09:55 Opposite-Patience-70 Raising children
My (39 F) daughter (20) is a really good kid. She's always been. She's very smart, she's compassionate. I raised her on my own since she was 5. It has always been us. When she was 8 she decided on her own to be baptized. She decided on her own to make a vow to stay pure until marriage. My parents bought her a ring. When she was 19. She started dating her first boyfriend. I really liked him, I still do but here is my issue.... He isn't a Christian, he doesn't go to church with her, he has no intention on doing so either. Also, she broke her vow to stay pure . I knew and at first she didn't tell me, but I could sense an energy shift. Idk mom's just know these things. When she finally confessed, she said it was her who initiated. They started dating in April of 2023. Fast forward to end of June, I was in a serious car accident, that had me in ICu, then rehab, then recovery at my parents house. Finally this April I returned home. While I was away, he stayed with her at my house. Which I was understanding of, because of the extent of my injuries they didn't know if I was going to even survive. He was her comfort, he was there so she didn't have to be alone. When I was at my parents they would come together, and it was nice. I that time away my relationship with God got better. When I came home, I went right back to the rules I had before I was gone. He couldn't stay over, door had to be open. He was was fully moved out before I came and got his own house. Now she stays there a lot of nights during the week. She has initially asked me do you mind if I stay the night. And I said, if you ask me, I'm going to say yes. It doesn't align with my beliefs, and it doesn't align with what God wants for you, or what you choose for yourself either. But you're also an adult, if you choose to stay don't ask me, because I will say no. If you do stay just know I don't agree with it, neither does God but im not going to stop you. Lately we've been fighting, which we haven't done in a while. When we text during a fight, she will respond in a way that seems more like him than her. I started to unsend my messages and she accused me of doing so because what I was saying was wrong. Which it wasn't, the reason I did was because it dawned on me that he's influencing her replies and involved in our conversation that had nothing to do with him, and I decided it's better to delete and not have the conversation over text. He doesn't have a very good relationship with his own mom. Or his sisters. He's mentioned their conversations before and it's very odd. I am not a controlling mom, I was a young mom. I've never been strict, I never even forced church on her, everything she did was on her own. Now I see her making choices that just go against everything we both believe, and honestly down the same path I took with her dad. She says, it's not your relationship, you can't view it like it's hour yours was. But, she doesn't get in not comparing out of comparison sake. It's from experience, I see what's happening from a mile away. Ever since about September, she's been sick with random things, and this girl was NEVER sick. She had a double kidney infection from the first time they had sex, was severely sick with that until she fessed up and I took her to the doctor. She's had covid, flu, pink eye at least 4x. And randomly she has eczema on her hands. I'm really not exaggerating, she was never sick. Like she barely ever even had a cold. The problem is that this accident has left me unable to drive, so now we're in a weird dynamic, where in the mom but she's having to drive me pick me up, and pick up the slack. The sad thing is that I really loved him, but since I've back home, during her and my disagreements, she had me on speaker and let him listen. She let him hear me asking if he helps her, if he's ever going to church, that I don't know if he's the one because they aren't equally yoked. Now he doesn't have anything to do with me. So I feel like I'm losing her, and to someone who had nothing to do with her only parent. I don't know how to address it or if I even should because I am not wanting to push her away, because I don't think it will last forever, and I want her to know I am here for her. But I don't want to mention i don't think it will last. I think she's confused too because before I didn't have a problem and now I do. While I was gone God was the only one there constantly, I seriously have turned my own life around and in doing so I can now see in her situation what I didn't see before. The closer I got to God the stronger my convictions are. I don't even know what I'm asking....
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2024.05.21 08:13 StonedMackin When did early marriages quit happening/being popular?
For example you see it often in shows and movies from the 70s and earlier. A man would propose to a woman and not even really know her. They could have met the girl once or twice, maybe went on a few dates and then they'll just propose to her. Does it derive from the old Christian values of no sex before marriage? I know this is just media but I'm sure it was a popular thing in general for the times. Nowadays it usually takes people years of dating to get to that proposal point then usually at least a year after that until the actual marriage. For reference you see it a lot in shows like Good Times, Sanford and Son, etc. I'm not talking about planned marriages either.
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2024.05.21 08:13 StonedMackin When did early marriages quit happening/being popular?
For example you see it often in shows and movies from the 70s and earlier. A man would propose to a woman and not even really know her. They could have met the girl once or twice, maybe went on a few dates and then they'll just propose to her. Does it derive from the old Christian values of no sex before marriage? I know this is just media but I'm sure it was a popular thing in general for the times. Nowadays it usually takes people years of dating to get to that proposal point then usually at least a year after that until the actual marriage. For reference you see it a lot in shows like Good Times, Sanford and Son, etc. I'm not talking about planned marriages either.
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2024.05.21 08:12 StonedMackin When did early marriages quit happening/being popular?
For example you see it often in shows and movies from the 70s and earlier. A man would propose to a woman and not even really know her. They could have met the girl once or twice, maybe went on a few dates and then they'll just propose to her. Does it derive from the old Christian values of no sex before marriage? I know this is just media but I'm sure it was a popular thing in general for the times. Nowadays it usually takes people years of dating to get to that proposal point then usually at least a year after that until the actual marriage. For reference you see it a lot in shows like Good Times, Sanford and Son, etc. I'm not talking about planned marriages either.
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2024.05.21 07:10 AstronomerBiologist I asked chatGPT to write an ADDITIONAL CES letter with concerns not in the original. And to phrase it in the style of the CES letter...
Note, I have never read the CES letter so I don't know what's in it or the level of detail provided. I don't know if any of the following overlap that
So I can call it CES letter TWO? It didn't take long...
Sure, here is a more detailed letter with at least 40 additional concerns about Mormonism in the style of the CES Letter:
After extensive study and reflection on my previous questions, I have encountered additional concerns about Mormonism that I feel compelled to address. These concerns further challenge the foundations of my faith and raise significant questions about the history, doctrines, and practices of the LDS Church.
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So I can call it CES letter TWO? It didn't take long...
Sure, here is a more detailed letter with at least 40 additional concerns about Mormonism in the style of the CES Letter:
Additional Concerns about Mormonism
Introduction
Dear CES Director,After extensive study and reflection on my previous questions, I have encountered additional concerns about Mormonism that I feel compelled to address. These concerns further challenge the foundations of my faith and raise significant questions about the history, doctrines, and practices of the LDS Church.
Pre-Existence and Plan of Salvation
- Pre-Existence Doctrine: The concept of a pre-mortal existence is unique to Mormonism and lacks substantial scriptural support outside of LDS scriptures. How can we reconcile the LDS teachings on pre-existence with the broader Christian theological framework, which does not include this doctrine?
- Plan of Salvation: The LDS Plan of Salvation is complex and differs significantly from traditional Christian views of salvation. Why does the plan include the necessity of temple ordinances and exaltation, which are not mentioned in the Bible?
Modern Prophecies and Revelations
- Modern Revelations: Why have there been fewer public, significant revelations in recent decades compared to the early days of the church? How do we understand the role of modern prophets if new revelations are infrequent or administrative rather than doctrinal?
- Changes in Revelation: The discontinuation of some practices (e.g., blood atonement, Adam-God theory) that were taught by early prophets raises questions about the consistency and infallibility of modern revelations. How can we trust that current teachings will not also be revised or abandoned?
- Second Anointing: The practice of the second anointing, an ordinance reportedly given to select members, is not openly discussed or taught in the general membership. Why is there a lack of transparency about this ordinance, and how does it fit within the broader doctrine of the church?
Scriptural Integrity
- Book of Moses: The Book of Moses contains unique doctrines and stories not found in the Bible. How can we verify the authenticity of these additional scriptures when there is no external historical or archaeological evidence to support them?
- Joseph Smith Translation (JST): The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible includes significant changes and additions. Why do we not use the JST as the official Bible of the LDS Church, and why are some JST changes not included in the LDS edition of the Bible?
- Apocrypha: The LDS Church's stance on the Apocrypha is inconsistent. Why are certain apocryphal texts included in LDS teachings, while others are disregarded?
Gender and Sexuality
- Gender Roles: The rigid gender roles prescribed by the church, including the exclusion of women from the priesthood, do not align with modern views on gender equality. How can the church reconcile its teachings with contemporary understanding of gender and equality?
- LGBTQ+ Issues: The church's stance on LGBTQ+ issues, including opposition to same-sex marriage and the treatment of LGBTQ+ members, has caused significant pain and alienation. How can the church's teachings be reconciled with principles of love, acceptance, and equality?
- Heavenly Mother: The doctrine of a Heavenly Mother is taught but not openly discussed or included in worship. Why is there such reticence to fully acknowledge and incorporate Heavenly Mother into church teachings and practices?
Historical Inaccuracies
- Pioneer Accounts: Some pioneer stories and accounts of early church history have been found to be embellished or inaccurate. How can we trust the historical narratives taught in church when there are discrepancies and potential exaggerations?
- Manifest Destiny: The church's historical involvement in westward expansion and Manifest Destiny raises ethical questions about its impact on Native American populations. How does the church address these historical injustices?
- Mountain Meadows Massacre: The church's role and response to the Mountain Meadows Massacre remain controversial. Why was there a delay in addressing this tragedy, and how does the church account for the actions of its leaders involved in the event?
- First Vision Variants: The multiple accounts of Joseph Smith's First Vision contain discrepancies. How can the church reconcile these differences and present a consistent narrative?
Ecclesiastical Authority
- Church Leadership: The process of selecting church leaders, including apostles and prophets, is not transparent. How can members have confidence in the leadership selection process when it lacks transparency and democratic principles?
- Financial Transparency: The church's financial dealings, including the use of tithing funds and investments, are not fully transparent. How can members be assured that their contributions are being used appropriately without detailed financial disclosures?
- Role of Women: Women's roles in leadership are limited. How can the church address the growing demand for gender equality in leadership and decision-making roles?
Doctrinal Changes
- Temple Changes: Significant changes to temple ceremonies have occurred over time. How can these changes be explained if the ceremonies are supposed to be divinely revealed and unalterable?
- Priesthood Ban: The priesthood ban on black members was lifted in 1978, but the reasons for its implementation remain unclear. How does the church justify this historical policy?
- Word of Wisdom: The interpretation and application of the Word of Wisdom have evolved. How can these changes be reconciled with the claim of direct revelation?
- Tithing: The requirement for tithing as a determinant of temple worthiness can place financial strain on members. How does the church address the ethical implications of this requirement?
Church Culture and Practices
- Correlation Program: The church's Correlation Program has centralized and standardized teachings, sometimes at the expense of local autonomy. How does this impact the diversity of thought and practice within the church?
- Church Discipline: The process of church discipline, including excommunication, is often opaque and can be perceived as punitive. How can this process be made more transparent and compassionate?
- Seminary and Institute: The curriculum in seminary and institute programs often emphasizes conformity and discourages critical thinking. How can these programs foster a more open and inquisitive approach to faith?
Social Issues
- Political Involvement: The church's involvement in political matters, such as Proposition 8 in California, raises questions about the separation of church and state. How does the church navigate its political engagement while respecting diverse political views among members?
- Humanitarian Efforts: While the church engages in humanitarian efforts, the extent and transparency of these efforts compared to its financial resources are often questioned. How can the church ensure that its humanitarian work is sufficiently robust and transparent?
- Mental Health: The emphasis on perfection and worthiness can contribute to mental health struggles among members. How is the church addressing the mental health needs of its members?
Education and Information
- Church History Curriculum: The curriculum often omits or glosses over controversial aspects of church history. How can the church ensure that members receive a comprehensive and honest education about their faith?
- Intellectual Freedom: Scholars and intellectuals who question or critique church teachings can face censure or excommunication. How can the church create a more open environment for scholarly inquiry and debate?
Ethical Concerns
- Transparency in Revelation: The process by which revelations are received and communicated to the church membership lacks transparency. How can members have confidence in the revelatory process?
- Historical Revisionism: There are instances where church history has been revised or sanitized. How can the church reconcile this with a commitment to truth?
- Apologetics: The methods and approaches of LDS apologetics can sometimes be seen as defensive and dismissive of legitimate concerns. How can the church foster a more open and respectful dialogue with critics?
Interfaith Relations
- Exclusivity Claims: The claim that the LDS Church is the "only true church" can strain relations with other faith communities. How can the church promote interfaith respect and cooperation while maintaining its doctrinal claims?
- Missionary Methods: Some missionary methods, including the use of high-pressure tactics and the emphasis on baptism numbers, can be problematic. How can the church ensure that its missionary efforts are ethical and respectful?
Additional Scriptural Concerns
- Lectures on Faith: Once included in the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lectures on Faith were later removed. Why were these foundational teachings removed, and what does this say about the consistency of LDS doctrine?
- Sealed Portion of the Book of Mormon: The Book of Mormon mentions a sealed portion that has yet to be revealed. How does the church address questions about the content and significance of this sealed portion?
Rituals and Ordinances
- Endowment Ceremony: Changes to the endowment ceremony over time raise questions about its divine origin and consistency. How can these changes be explained?
- Baptisms for the Dead: The practice of proxy baptisms for the dead is unique to the LDS Church. How can this practice be reconciled with broader Christian teachings on salvation?
Philosophical and Theological Issues
- Nature of God: The LDS teaching that God was once a man and that humans can become gods differs significantly from traditional Christian theology. How can these teachings be reconciled with biblical scripture?
- Eternal Progression: The concept of eternal progression, including the potential for humans to become gods, is unique to Mormonism. How can this doctrine be substantiated?
Community and Cultural Issues
- Cultural Homogeneity: The church's culture can often feel homogeneous and exclusionary to those from diverse backgrounds. How can the church create a more inclusive environment?
- Youth Programs: The emphasis on strict moral codes...
2024.05.21 06:59 peacefulday24 Financial imbalance in relationship causing insecurities
Dear RedPillWomen, I am hoping for some advice!
My fiance (M32) and I (F33) have been together for 5 months and recently got engaged. We are both born-again Christians, and believe in Biblical submission for the wife and headship for the man. He has never mentioned red pill but is a traditionally masculine man and wants to protect and provide for his woman.
My job has a higher hourly rate, and we currently earn a similar amount weekly because I work fewer hours. But overall our financial positions are very different. Over the years I've earned a significantly higher wage, saved pretty consistently, and recently received a family inheritance which has bumped up my savings (we will have a pre-nuptial agreement for the inheritance).
My fiance has some money in a government savings scheme, but overall lives paycheck to paycheck, and my total savings are an estimated 5 1/2 times more than his. He married and became a stepfather very young and earned a low wage for years, and lost money in his divorce which was finalized 3 years ago. He is paying off some money borrowed from family. He has also spent on vehicles and hobbies rather than saving. He does not gamble, or currently use drugs, but drinks pretty heavily, which is something he would like to change. This is a flaw I am prepared to accept as I come with a fair amount of baggage myself. We have the support of our families and churches and are doing pre-martial counselling.
My fiance has expressed a lot of insecurity about me having more money, and feeling like less of a man because of this, which is hard for me to know how to handle. I will be covering the bulk of our wedding costs, which is not a dynamic either of us are very comfortable with, but I can't see any way around it without eloping or having a tiny wedding, which would exclude a lot of family and people that are special to us. We are not sleeping together before marriage which means we are having a short engagement.
We had a conversation last night and again he was very down on himself due to his poor handling of money, lack of savings and imbalance in our finances. I have thought about suggesting that we upskill together in this area by reading a budgeting book or watching Dave Ramsey or someone else who teaches about finances. I want to get on top of this issue before marriage especially as he has expressed a desire to change, but am not sure if I should suggest this, when it is already a really shameful area for him.
I would appreciate any advice that the community could give about how to improve this situation in a submissive way... with many thanks in advance!
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My fiance (M32) and I (F33) have been together for 5 months and recently got engaged. We are both born-again Christians, and believe in Biblical submission for the wife and headship for the man. He has never mentioned red pill but is a traditionally masculine man and wants to protect and provide for his woman.
My job has a higher hourly rate, and we currently earn a similar amount weekly because I work fewer hours. But overall our financial positions are very different. Over the years I've earned a significantly higher wage, saved pretty consistently, and recently received a family inheritance which has bumped up my savings (we will have a pre-nuptial agreement for the inheritance).
My fiance has some money in a government savings scheme, but overall lives paycheck to paycheck, and my total savings are an estimated 5 1/2 times more than his. He married and became a stepfather very young and earned a low wage for years, and lost money in his divorce which was finalized 3 years ago. He is paying off some money borrowed from family. He has also spent on vehicles and hobbies rather than saving. He does not gamble, or currently use drugs, but drinks pretty heavily, which is something he would like to change. This is a flaw I am prepared to accept as I come with a fair amount of baggage myself. We have the support of our families and churches and are doing pre-martial counselling.
My fiance has expressed a lot of insecurity about me having more money, and feeling like less of a man because of this, which is hard for me to know how to handle. I will be covering the bulk of our wedding costs, which is not a dynamic either of us are very comfortable with, but I can't see any way around it without eloping or having a tiny wedding, which would exclude a lot of family and people that are special to us. We are not sleeping together before marriage which means we are having a short engagement.
We had a conversation last night and again he was very down on himself due to his poor handling of money, lack of savings and imbalance in our finances. I have thought about suggesting that we upskill together in this area by reading a budgeting book or watching Dave Ramsey or someone else who teaches about finances. I want to get on top of this issue before marriage especially as he has expressed a desire to change, but am not sure if I should suggest this, when it is already a really shameful area for him.
I would appreciate any advice that the community could give about how to improve this situation in a submissive way... with many thanks in advance!
2024.05.21 05:57 zuccwantsucc Contraception/ Pre-Marital Sex
Lately, on this subreddit, I’ve been seeing lots of posts regarding birth control, marriage, sex, and reproduction in general. I find it jarring how rigid all of your stances are on these topics, as my extended family and lots of my friends are catholic and regularly take birth control/ engage in premarital sex. Does this make them any less catholic? Or even Christian?
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2024.05.21 04:57 princesspurpl Sex before marriage: is it worth the wait?
Hi! I want to preface this by saying I just made a throwaway account to post this, hence why I am so new. Lol.
I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
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I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
2024.05.21 04:47 Beautiful_Lemon_86 Hierarchy in marriage like the hierarchy of the Church - question on authority/submission.
My husband and I had a discussion yesterday on authority and submission in marriage. He shared this article with me from Catholic Answers (https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/authority-in-the-family) and said that the hierarchy of marriage is modeled after the hierarchy of the Church. So for example, the husband’s role in marriage is akin to the Pope’s role in the Church.
I had never heard this analogy before, only that the husband is to be to his wife as Christ is to His Church. This paragraph is where it seems to imply the marriage hierarchy/Church hierarchy analogy: “But man and woman, appropriating the roles of submission and authority as equals within marriage and experiencing the fruits of right order in the family, put the hierarchy of the Church into bold relief. The morphology of man and woman points to the male priesthood and the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary as model for all Christians.“
What does that mean, “put the hierarchy of the Church into bold relief?” I’m not really getting it.
I also have a question on how the author uses the analogy of “his team” (meaning their marriage/family is her husband’s team) and “calling the plays.” Maybe she’s just trying to say that the husband is head of household, which I understand. But when using the team analogy, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say “our team”? Husband and wife are equals and it’s not like he’s up there leading and the wife is relegated to being like one of the children with no real input. There’s so much misinformation out there about authority and submission in marriage, from both progressives and trads….I want to get this right.
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I had never heard this analogy before, only that the husband is to be to his wife as Christ is to His Church. This paragraph is where it seems to imply the marriage hierarchy/Church hierarchy analogy: “But man and woman, appropriating the roles of submission and authority as equals within marriage and experiencing the fruits of right order in the family, put the hierarchy of the Church into bold relief. The morphology of man and woman points to the male priesthood and the role of the Blessed Virgin Mary as model for all Christians.“
What does that mean, “put the hierarchy of the Church into bold relief?” I’m not really getting it.
I also have a question on how the author uses the analogy of “his team” (meaning their marriage/family is her husband’s team) and “calling the plays.” Maybe she’s just trying to say that the husband is head of household, which I understand. But when using the team analogy, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say “our team”? Husband and wife are equals and it’s not like he’s up there leading and the wife is relegated to being like one of the children with no real input. There’s so much misinformation out there about authority and submission in marriage, from both progressives and trads….I want to get this right.
2024.05.21 04:47 coolnavigator Match Group isn't talked about enough
As of Dec 2023, Match Group owns the following dating services:
Archer, Asian People Meet, Azar, BB People Meet, BB People Meet, Baby Boomer People Meet, Black People Meet, Black Christian People Meet, Black Professional People Meet, BLK, Catholic People Meet, Chinese People Meet, Chispa, Delightful, Democratic People Meet, Divorced People Meet, GenX People Meet, Hakuna, India Match, Interracial People Meet, Italian People Meet, J People Meet, Latino People Meet, LDS Planet, Little People Meet, Loveandseek, Marriage Minded People Meet, Meetic, Ourtime, Pairs, Peoplemeet, Petpeoplemeet, Republican People Meet, Senior Black People Meet, Ship, Single People Meet, Upward, Yuzu, Veggie People Meet
The only app they don't own is Bumble, but Bumble is horribly ran and seems to make the same mistakes.
Does no one realize how much power Match Group wields in our society? Lots of people are aware of the porn producers these days, but why doesn't anyone talk about the very apps which are now the primary way for men and women to meet each other (and to eventually start families).
Let's have a discussion.
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- Tinder
- Hinge
- OkCupid
- The League
- Plenty of Fish
- Match.com
Archer, Asian People Meet, Azar, BB People Meet, BB People Meet, Baby Boomer People Meet, Black People Meet, Black Christian People Meet, Black Professional People Meet, BLK, Catholic People Meet, Chinese People Meet, Chispa, Delightful, Democratic People Meet, Divorced People Meet, GenX People Meet, Hakuna, India Match, Interracial People Meet, Italian People Meet, J People Meet, Latino People Meet, LDS Planet, Little People Meet, Loveandseek, Marriage Minded People Meet, Meetic, Ourtime, Pairs, Peoplemeet, Petpeoplemeet, Republican People Meet, Senior Black People Meet, Ship, Single People Meet, Upward, Yuzu, Veggie People Meet
The only app they don't own is Bumble, but Bumble is horribly ran and seems to make the same mistakes.
Let's have a discussion.
2024.05.21 04:34 princesspurpl Sex before marriage: is it worth waiting?
Hi! I want to preface this by saying I just made a throwaway account to post this, hence why I am so new. Lol.
I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
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I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
2024.05.21 04:29 princesspurpl Sex before marriage: is waiting worth it?
Hi! I want to preface this by saying I just made a throwaway account to post this, hence why I am so new. Lol.
I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
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I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
2024.05.21 04:28 princesspurpl Sex before marriage: is waiting worth it?
Hi! I want to preface this by saying I just made a throwaway account to post this, hence why I am so new. Lol.
I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?
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I'm a 20F, and I've been in a relationship with a 21M for half a year now. It's been amazing!! We've had a couple conversations about my sexual boundaries, and I told him I'm waiting till marriage as a Christian. He has been very respectful of that, and he understands as he was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
Anyways. That was a few months ago. I've been really struggling with lust lately (I've always struggled with lust tho) and to be completely honest, I'm getting more and more frustrated with the idea of waiting. I really love my boyfriend and I know he feels the same. I see myself starting a life with him. I want to give him that part of me, because I love him and because I am finding it very hard to control my urges. I don't know how people wait years honestly. But then I feel like I will feel so shameful and so guilty if I go through with it. I know I would go into a spiral about it, so that's been holding me back.
What are your experiences with waiting? Or not waiting? Just looking for some solid insight :) Thank you in advance!
TLDR: I don't know if I can wait for marriage to be intimate. Did you or did you not wait? Was it worth it?