Divorced Singles 5 (돌싱글즈5) is on MBN/etc.
Synopsis:

Newly single and ready to mingle, divorced men and women enter the Dolsing Village looking to date, cohabitate and find love again.
But this time it's for those born in the 1990s or MZ Generation.

Cast

Female	Male
Park Hyekyeong	Son Minseong
Kang Saebom	Shim Kyudeok
Baek Sujin	Choi Jongkyu
Son Seah	Kim Kyuon

Panelists

• Lee Hye-young
  
• Lee Ji-hye (from S#arp group)
  
• Yoo Se-yoon
  
• Eun Ji-won (from Sechs Kies group)
  
• Austin Kang
  

Sources

Divorced Singles (돌싱글즈) channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Dolsingles_official/videos
The MBN Entertainment channel also uploads some of the teasers/clips/etc. earlier than the Divorced Singles channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MBN_Entertainment/videos
Pre-release presentation with the panelists and PD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf93Ed_gQes

Title	Version
Divorced Singles 5 (돌싱글즈5) Episode 2 English Softsub	720p/1080p (~2.0GB/4.0GB/6.0GB: https://gofile.io/d/GV8m5Z)
Divorced Singles 5 (돌싱글즈5) Episode 2 English Hardsub	1080p (~1.7GB: https://gofile.io/d/QwnmCI)

Discussion Threads

Divorced Singles 5 (돌싱글즈5) Discussion
E01, E02

Here have some other (variety/reality/etc.) shows too: https://www.reddit.com/koreanvariety/comments/1clzzpinfinite_challenge_무한도전_season_1_english_subtitles/
Centralized post about Korean/Chinese/Japanese/et cetera variety shows and how to access them (with AI-generated/machine translation info, language learning, and other stuff): https://www.reddit.com/useMNLYYZYEG/comments/1clzy6asian_varietyreality_shows_language_learning/
As usual, these links will automatically expire after say 10 days or so (it's that website's current default policy), so definitely get them ASAP. Like the links below were all/mostly updated last week for Divorced Singles Episode 1, so some of the links will probably expire this week or in a few days.

Title	Version
I Am Solo (나는 SOLO) Season 1-3 New English Softsub	720p (~14.6GB: https://gofile.io/d/5vNTHf)
I Am Solo (나는 SOLO) Season 1-3, New English subtitles only	720p (~3.4MB: https://gofile.io/d/8aEyZ9)

Title	Version
Once More (再次心动) English Softsub	1080p (~7.0GB: https://gofile.io/d/xNnZwi)

Title	Version
Go Straight for Love or Direct Love (연애는 직진) Better New English Softsub	1080p (~13GB: https://gofile.io/d/SIVGO2)

Title	Version
Hao You Hao You Ai Season 2 (好友好有爱 第二季) Episode 6 English Softsub	1080p (~1.5GB: https://gofile.io/d/8156eX)

Title	Version
Love Catcher Japan (ラブキャッチャージャパン) English Softsub	1080p (~16GB: https://gofile.io/d/kViuYg)
Love Catcher Japan (ラブキャッチャージャパン) English subtitles only	1080p (~1.5MB: https://gofile.io/d/wljuVA)

Title	Version
Love Catcher Season 2 (러브캐처2) English Softsub (fansub, credits to nytelynx)	1080p (~21GB: https://gofile.io/d/lGwgke)

Just about a day ago they finally uploaded the teasepreview/etc. for Twinkle Love Season 4 (怦然心动20岁 第四季) with Shen Yue/沈月 (super famous Chinese actress from Meteor Garden, A Love So Beautiful, etc.) and so on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6LXILAvKQU. Can't believe that fourth season in Thailand/etc. is finally coming in the near future.
Same with Yes, I Do Season 5 (喜欢你我也是 第五季). Should only be several weeks from now with those new seasons.
For the Single's Inferno (솔로지옥) series fans, there's now a Chinese version of it, lol. Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) has 20 housemates (instead of the usual 10 or so) and ya that first episode focused more on the competition/survival/etc. aspect instead of actual dating, haha. Worth a try since the housemates are pretty chillax or cool from the get-go.

Title	Version
Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) Episode 1 English Softsub	1080p (~1.8GB: https://gofile.io/d/hyuMgz)
Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) Episode 1 Commentary English Softsub	1080p (~230MB: https://gofile.io/d/95PKfZ)

Min Heejin (director of NewJeans/ADOetc.) is probably crying right now again (lol) since they used I'LL-IT's Magnetic as like the very first song for this dating show, which is insane when you think about it since that song/music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk5-c_v4gMU) just released say nearly two months ago (March 25, 2024). And it's already being used in a Chinese dating show like this.
Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) is available on WeTV/Tencent Video with like propeofficial/etc. subtitles (in English, Bahasa Malaysia/Indonesia, Spanish, Portuguese, Thai, etc.) check Youtube (Tencent Video-Show-Get the WeTV APP channel), more info here: https://www.reddit.com/KDRAMA/comments/1csecz9/frankly_speaking_episodes_5_6/l49sej8/
Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) Episode 1 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CKX7rVxMm8
Live and Love (势均力敌的我们) Episode 1 Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fvyfNA1kSw
But ya, as expected, the subtitles by those Chinese streaming services (WeTV(Tencent Video)/iQIYI/YOUKU/MangoTV/etc.) are often machine-translated as well with these variety/reality shows (and Cdramas). So maybe they'll fix it later though ya those official/propeetc. subtitles are also missing a few scenes or certain parts for now, but the subtitles are sorta a bit better than the OpenAI Whisper I posted earlieabove since they quickly redid the subjects/objects/etc. of the machine-translated sentence. So try watching the official/propeetc. version first instead of the AI-generated version that I posted since sometimes they update the subtitles on Youtube after a while to somewhat fix stuff.
Oh and the new Frankly Speaking Kdrama with Kang Han-na and Go Kyung-pyo is literally like Love Is for Suckers (has Lee Da-hee, one of the panelists of Single's Inferno (1, 2, and 3), as the producer or main character there, and Super Junior's Choi Si-won as the male lead), as in it's got the behind the scenes storyline and recreations/parodies/etc. for shows like I Am Solo (나는 SOLO) and Single's Inferno. It's so hilarious, definitely watch it if you're a fan of dating/cohabitation/slice of life/etc. shows.
Some info about Frankly Speaking and the Couple Paradise (커플천국) dating show inside the drama: https://www.reddit.com/KDRAMA/comments/1csecz9/frankly_speaking_episodes_5_6/l49lpej/
Han Dong-hee (한동희) is literally like the 첫사랑 (her visuals were insane in Captivating the King as Hongjang: https://www.reddit.com/KDRAMA/comments/19bxla0/captivating_the_king_episodes_1_2/kiye1e6/) and like wow, does she not look like Seah from Divorced Singles 5 (돌싱글즈5), such sharp features, much wow (Balltze/Cheems doge forever living in memories), lmao.

A little background, kami mahasiswa sastra Inggris punya project drama sebagai mata kuliah wajib yang butuh dana yang tidak sedikit. Teman2 yang mengurus surat-menyurat juga overworking dan aku rencananya mau ikut andil untuk lewat crowd funding. Its just that I have yet expirience any kind of these funding....
No, this is not commercialized or anything sort, just for fun of students project.

A reader of my website Baligram.me recently got in touch with me.
He's a student with a growing interest in Balinese Hinduism and is currently learning the local language, Basa Bali. He's also learning Bahasa Indonesian.
He's is eager to delve deeper into Balinese Hinduism but needs resources available in English. He reached out hoping I could point him in the right direction.
I offered a few recommendations to help him on his journey and thought I would share this here in case it was of interest to others too.
A good starting point, particularly for tourists just wanting to get a light feel for Balinese religion (without going in too deep) is my set of articles here: https://baligram.me/blog/balinese-hinduism-introduction-for-visitors
Here's how I replied:
Thank you for reaching out and for your interest in Balinese Hinduism! It's always exciting to connect with fellow enthusiasts.
Firstly, it's great you are learning Bahasa Bali. I do suggest focussing on Bahasa Indonesia - it's easier to learn and all Balinese speak it. Bahasa Bali is harder and most of the time unless you are fluent you will get answers in Bahasa Indonesian.
However, having some Bahasa Bali will certainly impress and people will warm to you for your effort.
I am not sure how deeply you wish to go, so below are suggestions that range from those suitable to a casual tourist to someone who wants to go much deeper into the topic.
Here are a few recommendations where you can delve deeper into Balinese Hinduism, all with resources or programs in English:

1. Ubud: Often considered the cultural heart of Bali, Ubud is home to several learning centers that offer courses on Balinese culture and religion. You might want to check out the Ubud Yoga Centre or the Pondok Pekak Library, which occasionally host workshops and talks on Hindu philosophy and practice.
   
2. Point (1) is a more superficial experience. If you really want to learn deeply, go to a more remote village and stay with a family for the full 210 Pukawon cycle (the Balinese calendar works on a 210 day cycle) and if you time it right you can experience every daily ceremony and learn about the religion in a very comprehensive way. Combine this with reading "Bali: Sekala & Niskala" by Fred B. Eiseman, Jr. (see below) and you will come away with a better grounding than you could get any other way.
   
3. Online Resources: Websites like BaliSpirit.com and LearnReligions.com offer comprehensive articles and guides on Balinese Hinduism. These can be great starting points for understanding the core beliefs and practices before diving deeper on the ground.
   
4. University Programs: Look into the Universitas Hindu Indonesia in Denpasar. They offer various courses related to Hinduism and, while primarily in Indonesian, may offer some resources or classes in English or have instructors willing to accommodate English speakers. You could contact some of the academics and ask if they would meet with you and maybe introduce you to their senior students who might be willing to become a mentor to you.
   
5. Spiritual Retreats: Bali is known for its spiritual retreats that often incorporate teachings on Balinese Hinduism. These can be immersive ways to learn and experience the religion first-hand. Bali Silent Retreat and Blooming Lotus Yoga are popular spots that offer a blend of yoga, meditation, and spiritual teachings.
   
6. Local Temples and Festivals: Participating in local ceremonies and festivals can provide a unique insight into the practical aspects of Balinese Hinduism. Temples like Pura Taman Ayun and Pura Tirta Empul often have guides who speak English and can explain the significance of rituals and temple history.
   
7. Reading: You may already have some or all of these great books:
   
8. "Bali: Sekala & Niskala" by Fred B. Eiseman, Jr. - This book is split into two volumes, covering both the tangible (sekala) and intangible (niskala) aspects of Balinese culture and religion. It's highly praised for its depth and accessibility.
   
9. "Introduction to Balinese Architecture" by Julian Davison - While this book focuses on architecture, it offers valuable insights into the religious and philosophical beliefs that influence Balinese design and temple structures.
   
10. "The Bali Bible: The Ultimate Guide to the World's Most Spectacular Tropical Island" by Thibault Masson - This guide includes a section on Balinese culture and religion, providing a good overview for travelers who want to understand the spiritual context of the island.
    
11. "Hinduism in Bali: Families and their Faiths" by Angela Hobart - This book explores Hinduism as it is practiced daily in Balinese families, offering a personal look at the rituals and beliefs of the island's main religion.
    
12. "Balinese Dance, Drama & Music: A Guide to the Performing Arts of Bali" by I Wayan Dibia and Rucina Ballinger - Understanding local performing arts is another way to deepen one's understanding of Balinese Hinduism, as many dances and dramas are rooted in religious stories and teachings.
    

I hope these suggestions help you on your journey to deeper understanding of Balinese Hinduism.
Enjoy your learning adventure in Bali!
Simon St John
Editor, Baligram.me

Halo, newbie di sini.
Jadi gue mau bertanya sama sepuh² IT di sini, tentang suatu bidang profesi yang mungkin bisa jadi secercah harapan untuk masa depan gue tentunya.
Is it possible to learn coding till you are employable level, with only little resources? These are my conditions right now:
1) M23, Lulusan SMA IPS, Introvert Akut 2) Cuma punya satu pc mid-range, nothing else 3) Punya pengalaman kerja sebagai Data Labelling (a lil bit of data analytic skills and marketing), sekarang lg nganggur. 4) Bahasa inggris sangat lancar tapi mentok passive (reading/listening,writing), karena biasanya auto bego kalau udh berdialog inggris. 5) Menemukan suatu situs yang dibangun komunitas programmer luar khusus untuk orang-orang awam atau yang gabisa ke univ (name is "The Odin Project")
Seandainya gue selesai mempelajari semua materinya, entah dalam waktu berapa tahun, apakah masih ada startup atau mungkin korporasi yang memberi kesempatan untuk orang tanpa gelar kayak gue?
Seberapa sulit untuk orang yang level pemahaman logikanya standar, untuk bisa menjadi programmer yang bekerja dengan gaji yang cukup untuk hidup sendiri si kota-kota besar? Dan hanya bermodalkan satu situs, The Odin Project tadi?
So sorry guys kalau bukan tempatnya, boleh bagitau subreddit yang lebih cocok di kolom reply. Anw, pertanyaan ini ga hanya tertuju untuk sepuh IT aja, bidang apapun silahkan, gue butuh kenyataan pahit di sisi recruitment perusahaan, bagi seorang lulusan SMA ini yang menjadikan belajar programming sebagai 'last resort'. Apakah benar-benar ada kesempatan itu untukku? Atau haruskah ku mengejar profesi lainnya?
Thanks in advance✌️

Hello. I just want to inform you that we offer multi-language channels for chatting. For example if you wanna speak in portugeese there is a channel and people who speaks that language. If you don't speak engish and you speak chinese or Japanese there is a channel for that too. THE DISCORD LINK IS IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS AND IN MY BIO
Chinese 你好。我只是想告诉您，我们提供多语言聊天频道。例如，如果您想用葡萄牙语说话，就有一个频道和讲该语言的人。如果您不会说英语而会说中文或普通话，也有一个频道。
Japanese: こんにちは。チャット用に多言語チャネルを提供していることをお知らせしたいと思います。たとえば、ポルトガル語で話したい場合は、その言語を話すチャンネルと人々がいます。英語が話せなくても、中国語または日本語を話せる場合は、そのためのチャンネルもあります。
Hindi: नमस्ते। मैं आपको केवल यह बताना चाहता हूं कि हम चैटिंग के लिए बहुभाषी चैनल पेश करते हैं। उदाहरण के लिए, यदि आप पुर्तगाली भाषा में बात करना चाहते हैं तो एक चैनल और उस भाषा को बोलने वाले लोग मौजूद हैं। यदि आप अंग्रेजी नहीं बोलते हैं और चीनी या जापानी बोलते हैं तो उसके लिए भी
Portuguese: Olá. Só quero informar que oferecemos canais multilíngues para bate-papo. Por exemplo se você quiser falar em português existe um canal e pessoas que falam esse idioma. Se você não fala inglês e fala chinês ou japonês, existe um canal para isso também.
Russian: Привет. Я просто хочу сообщить вам, что мы предлагаем многоязычные каналы для общения. Например, если вы хотите говорить по-португальски, есть канал и люди, говорящие на этом языке. Если вы не говорите по-английски, но говорите по-китайски или по-японски, для этого тоже есть канал.
German: Hallo. Ich möchte Sie nur darüber informieren, dass wir mehrsprachige Kanäle zum Chatten anbieten. Wenn Sie beispielsweise Portugiesisch sprechen möchten, gibt es einen Kanal und Leute, die diese Sprache sprechen. Wenn Sie kein Englisch sprechen, aber Chinesisch oder Japanisch sprechen, gibt es auch dafür einen Kanal.📷
Korean: 안녕하세요. 우리는 채팅을 위한 다국어 채널을 제공하고 있음을 알려드리고 싶습니다. 예를 들어 포르투갈어로 말하고 싶다면 해당 언어를 사용하는 채널과 사람들이 있습니다. 영어를 못하시고 중국어나 일본어를 하시는 분들을 위한 채널도 있습니다.
French: Bonjour. Je veux juste vous informer que nous proposons des canaux multilingues pour discuter. Par exemple, si vous voulez parler portugais, il existe une chaîne et des personnes qui parlent cette langue. Si vous ne parlez pas anglais et que vous parlez chinois ou japonais, il existe également une chaîne pour cela.📷
Tamil: வணக்கம். நாங்கள் அரட்டையடிக்க பல மொழி சேனல்களை வழங்குகிறோம் என்பதை உங்களுக்குத் தெரிவிக்க விரும்புகிறேன். உதாரணமாக நீங்கள் போர்த்துகீசிய மொழியில் பேச விரும்பினால், ஒரு சேனலும் அந்த மொழியைப் பேசுபவர்களும் உள்ளனர். நீங்கள் ஆங்கிலம் பேசவில்லை மற்றும் நீங்கள் சீன அல்லது ஜப்பானிய மொழி பேசுகிறீர்கள் என்றால் அதற்கும் ஒரு சேனல் உள்ளது.
Arabic: مرحبًا. أريد فقط أن أبلغك أننا نقدم قنوات متعددة اللغات للدردشة. على سبيل المثال، إذا كنت تريد التحدث باللغة البرتغالية، فهناك قناة وأشخاص يتحدثون تلك اللغة. إذا كنت لا تتحدث الإنجليزية وتتحدث الصينية أو اليابانية، فهناك قناة لذلك أيضًا.
Italian: Ciao. Voglio solo informarti che offriamo canali multilingue per chattare. Ad esempio, se vuoi parlare in portoghese, c'è un canale e persone che parlano quella lingua. Se non parli inglese e parli cinese o giapponese, c'è un canale anche per quello.📷
Punjabi: ਸਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ. ਮੈਂ ਤੁਹਾਨੂੰ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਇਹ ਦੱਸਣਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦਾ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਅਸੀਂ ਚੈਟਿੰਗ ਲਈ ਬਹੁ-ਭਾਸ਼ੀ ਚੈਨਲ ਪੇਸ਼ ਕਰਦੇ ਹਾਂ। ਉਦਾਹਰਨ ਲਈ ਜੇਕਰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਪੁਰਤਗਾਲੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਬੋਲਣਾ ਚਾਹੁੰਦੇ ਹੋ ਤਾਂ ਉੱਥੇ ਇੱਕ ਚੈਨਲ ਅਤੇ ਲੋਕ ਹਨ ਜੋ ਉਹ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਹਨ। ਜੇ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਅੰਗਰੇਜ਼ੀ ਨਹੀਂ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਅਤੇ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਚੀਨੀ ਜਾਂ ਜਾਪਾਨੀ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਹੋ ਤਾਂ ਇਸਦੇ ਲਈ ਵੀ ਇੱਕ ਚੈਨਲ ਹੈ।
Dutch: Hallo. Ik wil u alleen laten weten dat we meertalige kanalen aanbieden om te chatten. Als je bijvoorbeeld Portugees wilt spreken, is er een kanaal en mensen die die taal spreken. Als je geen Engels spreekt en wel Chinees of Japans, is daar ook een kanaal voor.📷
Indonesian: Halo. Saya hanya ingin memberi tahu Anda bahwa kami menawarkan saluran multi-bahasa untuk mengobrol. Misalnya jika Anda ingin berbicara dalam bahasa Portugis, ada saluran dan orang-orang yang berbicara bahasa tersebut. Jika Anda tidak bisa berbahasa Inggris dan bisa berbahasa Cina atau Jepang, ada saluran untuk itu juga.📷
Hungarian: Helló. Szeretném tájékoztatni, hogy többnyelvű csatornákat kínálunk a csevegéshez. Például, ha portugálul szeretne beszélni, van egy csatorna és emberek, akik beszélik azt a nyelvet. Ha nem beszélsz angolul, és beszélsz kínaiul vagy japánul, akkor erre is van csatorna.📷
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Greek: Γειά σου. Θέλω απλώς να σας ενημερώσω ότι προσφέρουμε πολυγλωσσικά κανάλια για συνομιλία. Για παράδειγμα, αν θέλετε να μιλήσετε στα πορτογαλικά, υπάρχει ένα κανάλι και άτομα που μιλούν αυτή τη γλώσσα. Εάν δεν μιλάτε αγγλικά και μιλάτε κινέζικα ή ιαπωνικά, υπάρχει ένα κανάλι και για αυτό.
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Swedish: Hallå. Jag vill bara informera dig om att vi erbjuder flerspråkiga kanaler för chatt. Om du till exempel vill prata portugisiska finns det en kanal och människor som talar det språket. Om du inte talar engelska och du talar kinesiska eller japanska finns det en kanal för det också.📷

Sebelumnya lebih sering baca LN pake Bahasa Inggris, tapi pas nyoba Bahasa Indonesia enak juga bacanya.
Ada gak ya website kayak NovelUpdates atau MangaUpdates tapi buat bahasa Indonesia?
Kalo emang gak ada website kayak gitu, tertarik gak jika misalkan website kayak gitu dibuat?
Dan buat Light Novel bahasa Indo, ada saran translation group yang bagus gak? Gw baru nemu Lintas Ninja Translation.

I have never posted a topic here before as I don't like touching on politics or indoctrinating other people. But the recent BM literacy issue on an elder person trying to renew pasport kinda touched a spot on me. I'm only writing this to lay down shy elderly that doesn't know a lick of BM exists. Whether to condemn them for never trying to embrace the Malaysian spirit or be understanding towards them is up to you guys, I'm just sharing.
To those questioning how could someone like that holding a blue IC exist in Malaysia where BM is everywhere and doubt that even any Malaysians like that existed. Let me get this fact straight, they definitely exist. And there are still quite a number of them. Many of them live quite isolated lives, never left their hometowns as it was usual back then like my grandma. Work in hometown, play mahjong with friends, go chinese pasar, take care of kids, grandkids, go on Chinese guided tour once in a while out of the town. Rinse and repeat from birth until now 80+ years old. Because back then the culture is different, not many women are wishing to get out to see the world ans are just contempt.
M grandma, almost 90 years old at this point does actually speak a little bit of BM. Not enough to see the doctor or talk to people on her own, but combined with gestures and pointing she'll get her message through. Many of her friends are between 70 - around her age, and many of my grandma's friends never spoke a lick of BM. Today still don't know how to read, write or speak BM because their whole lives revolved around their taman. Now most old liao never leave the house, even no chance to ever learn BM. Most don't even read alphabets.
And again, my experience isn't in some small Cina town isolated from cities and such. I'm from PJ where my family has been in the Klang Valley for over 150 years. I frequently take the LRT as well and many from those generations I have guided so many times. Most of the reason they ever ventured out of their taman? Because their old friend's kids bought a new place so they moved to new taman, hence travelling to play mahjong or sit at kopitiam with them. They malu to ask PIC because they only know Cantonese or Hakka and only some Mandarin to get by. They only tell me which station number they should go down and which bus number but sometimes get lost. And I encounter this OFTEN.
Maybe because I have a friendly face or maybe because I'm fluent in Cantonese, Hakka and Mandarin as well with small lick of Hokkien, because I talk to my grandma and her friends often. So maybe I seem more approachable to them, as often they will always instinctively walk over and ask me when even I'm sitting quite a distance away in a LRT full of other people. Luckily I'm able to korek my memory of Chinese names of some tamans and places my grandma referenced to before, else I also don't know where are they headed or how to guide them.
Remember, most of them are from the times before Malaysia or Malaya was ever formed. Many of them tell you their first memories are mostly about the Japanese occupation and such. My grandma told me she vividly remembers how Japanese bombers leveled the cement factory she was working in when she was a child. Remember, completely different times where child labour is common.
Well, surely it's still impossible to not learn any BM? Surely they had to order food or head out at some point? Why Indian elderly seem to be more fluent in BM than elderly Cina? Well to summarise what I've been trying to say this whole time: the Chinese community in Malaysia has been self-sufficient enough with a big enough population that they never needed to. Culturally for millenia, the Chinese has always built-up their own self-sufficient and close-knit communities even back in Mainland China before. A town would speak their own dialect never knowing what's happening on the outside, and there would be select people in a town tasked with learning to read and write what is called "bahasa pegawai" to deal with governmental affairs which would later become Mandarin after the introduction of national education.
Millenia of such habits is impossible to dissappear with 1 or 2 generations along, hence why only the past 2 generations we're finally seeing more inter-mingling. Hence, the thought of learning the national language when in another country never occurred to them. It was never a practice even in China, the majority got by with only their own dialects for generations. Most came from the times of the Taiping rebellion, Hakka-Punti war and later the Sino-Japanese War and distrust even towards other clan members was an all-time high. Remember in history we had the Larut Wars between the different dialect groups, as well as the razing and "founding" of KL by Yap Ah Loy which was actually part of the wider inter-dialect conflict that just happened be guised under the Sultan's banner. Because that's how closed off and segregated each community was. And the British played that into full effect.
Because as mentioned that in their minds, being a Malaysian was never a thing. The country of Malaya and subsequently Malaysia wasn't even a thing when they were born. They only knew themselves as Chinese living in another land, just like their ancestors centuries or millenia ago migrating South to get away from the devastation in the homeland. They definitely weren't China Chinese as during that time a few generations have passed; but they definitely never thought of themselves as Malaysian. It was only something to let them legally live here as they always were, and travel in and out the country legally. As for my grandma? Will she ever put in the effort to learn BM even if the whole country condemns her? Probably not, she just stays at home nowadays watch HK drama or sometimes gather at kopitiam play mahjong waiting for their time to end. In her mind, she already passed all the hopes to her grandchildren like me after raising all of them, there's nothing more she needs to do and just enjoying her days now.
So there's that, I'll leave it at that. What you guys think of this information is on yourselves.
Side note: To those asking why then how should we differentiate illegal aliens from China then? For Chinese, it is very easy to tell if someone is from China or 2nd generation China-origin and not Malaysian. It is impossible for them to be like the Cina in Malaysia where most are 4th, 5th generation at this point. Even Hongkonger who lived in Malaysia for over a decade speaking Cantonese to me, I can also immediately tell that person wasn't born in Malaysia.

Hi komodos, saya sebenernya udah kepikiran lama untuk pindah keluar negri tapi akhir akhir ini makin mikir untuk pindah lebih kuat karna beberapa alasan seperti keadaan sociopolitik, ekonomi, sama diskriminasi di indo yang bikin saya punya minim harapan buat tinggal disini lebih lanjut. saya sebenarnya sudah mencoba untuk nyaman dan menerima tinggal di indonesia namun agak sulit untuk saya sendiri untuk menetap di negara ini krna jujur saya beberapa kali bekerja dengan proyek pemerintahan dan dengan kinerja pemerintahan sekarang serta segala hal yang perlu dilakukan “under the table” saya merasa muak dengan sistem yang sudah mengakar tersebut, ditambah saya juga kaum minoritas yang setiap hari lelah melihat orang orang menanggap saya dibawah manusia karna “berbeda”
Se tangkepnya saya disini banyak komodos yang tinggal di luar negri dan saya cuma mau tau aja gimana kalian bisa pindah ? Boleh share pengalaman pengalaman pindah dan mungkin pros and cons pindah tersebut ? Saya sendiri punya kemampuan bahasa inggris yang lumayan fasih dan bisa bahasa jepang sedikit, untuk keahlian pekerjaan saya sudah bersertifikasi di bidang arsitektur dan lulus dari kampus ptn yang lumayan bagus, menurut komodos chance saya untuk bisa pindah keluar negri lumayan atau hanya angan saja ?
Maaf karna post ini terkesan agak negatif dan pesimis, terimakasih jawabannya