Just received the Neely in the mail. One day will get the Bergy signed!
Let’s go B’s!

With these funky new kickoff rules, word is that Micah Parsons is trying to convince the Cowboys to let him get a few returns in and that the Steelers have considered putting Justin Fields back deep as well. Parsons was an awesome skill position player in high school, as were a lot of guys who play non-skill positions now, and Fields is at the point where he needs to prove his value, and that got me thinking about what the history of guys that the NFL tried to use as a returner in that vein. And because I know nobody wants to read about a bunch of old farts from the Antediluvian age who played "quarterback" back when quarterbacks actually played offensive line or whatever the fuck happened back then, I'm narrowing my field to only include the Super Bowl era.
We will be talking about players who intentionally were used as return men and who were listed at positions besides running back, wide receiver, cornerback or safety (though this can be hard to tell without access to all of the game footage, so I'm having to confirm these with secondhand accounts I can find online). So that means no Devin Hester, no Cordarrelle Patterson, no Patrick Peterson and, unfortunately, no Dan Connolly. If I break these rules to talk about something cool when I’m further along writing this, I apologize. Not.

QUARTERBACK

Starting things off strong, I want to immediately cheat the prompt by talking about Brad Smith who was listed as a quarterback but also was listed as a wide receiver but more than anything else was a freak gadgety wildcat-running type of guy (you'll notice that's a pretty common theme in this category). Brad was one of college football history's most productive rushing QBs while he was at Missouri, and he carved out a solid little niche for himself as a decently effective oddity and as a kick returner, averaging a seriously, actually good 25.7 yards per return on 112 career kick returns as well as three career return TDs.
Joe Webb was in a similar vein, a college QB at *UAB who had an NFL career as a wildcat-doer-guy-thing/kind of a wide receiveactual NFL quarterback who sucked balls in a playoff game. Webb had a solid returning career, fielding 18 career returns for an average of 22.3 yards per return.
Everyone's favorite kind of infuriatingly overpaid but also admittedly very efficient swiss army knife Taysom Hill has had his fair share of kick return opportunities. Among being a quarterback, running back, tight end, fullback, wide receiver and core special teamer, he has 19 career returns for a 23.5 career return average.
Vince Evans, who started multiple seasons of Walter Payton's prime as the Bears' quarterback and went negative in TD/INT ratio in both seasons, got a few shots as a kick returner. In 1977, the season most well-known for being Walter Payton's best year as a pro, Evans fielded 8 kicks for an average of 19.5 yards per return.
In terms of punt returners, football's most notorious leg-breaker Joe Theismann actually began his career as a punt returner, and weirdly enough, that is not a joke. Seems weird to me, to be honest. But he wasn't bad at it at all, averaging 10.5 yards per return on 15 returns as a rookie in 1974.
Former Appalachian State superstar and future CFL decent second receiving option Armanti Edwards got a decent shot at the Panthers' punt return job, fielding 40 punts for an average of 7 yards per return. In the NFL, he really did nothing more than run a few wildcat plays and mostly not be very good at doing so.
XFL legend BJ Daniels also got a few shots with the Texans and Seahawks in his one season as an active roster member, averaging just five yards per return on five attempts.
I feel like Brian Mitchell probably deserves a shoutout here, or something, maybe? He had 18 career pass attempts, a bunch of random assorted rushes and receptions, but more than anything he, like Josh Cribbs or Brad Smith or Joe Webb after him, was a college quarterback, a square peg in a round hole. An incredible athlete with great skill who never found a home anywhere but as a returner.

TIGHT END

St. Louis Cardinals Hall of Famer Jackie Smith was the backup for basically every position on the offense and special teams. He was one of the best receiving tight ends in the NFL (his 1967 season is still one of the best era-adjusted tight end seasons ever), he was a phenomenal blocker, he compiled over 320 career rushing yards, he had three career pass attempts, he had 127 career punts, and was used as an emergency kick returner with a respectable career average of 20.6 yards per attempt. Low key, one of the most versatile players in NFL history.
Probably the most famous tight end to moonlight as a kick returner was Hall of Famer John Mackey, who was used sparingly in very strategic moments but averaged a (in that era, and frankly in any era) pretty remarkable 30.1 yards per return in his career.
Hall of Famer Ozzie Newsome had two punt returns in his career, averaging 14.5 yards per return.
Delanie Walker is the University of Central Missouri's all-time kick return touchdown leader, and he got a shot as a young pup with the 49ers. He wasn't particularly great at this, in 2008 where he got a serious share of the returns and he averaged under 20 yards per return on 13 attempts. But honestly, not too bad.
Niles Paul was a somewhat promising young tight end before injuries stole his career away, the hybrid receiver-tight end had 41 career returns for an average of 19.9 yards per return.
Don Bass had a solid career as a tight end for the Bengals, with over 1580 career receiving yards in a three-year span. He got seven returns in 1978, for an average of 19.7 yards per attempt.
Journeyman tight end from the 70s Jim Thaxton got a shot to return kicks in 1976, doing a solid job and averaging 24.1 yards per return.
Roland Moss had a short three year NFL career across four different teams from 1969-1971, but in 1970 the Bills and Chargers tried to get the big athlete on the field on special teams, letting him take 7 kick returns for an 18.7 yard average.
Nate Turner was a weird fullback, tight end, wide receiver, running back returner guy who got a bit of a shot with the Bills in 1993, averaged 17 yards per attempts at a whopping 255 pounds.
Gotta mention Brian Kozlowski, a career special teamer who racked up 29 career kick returns despite never actually being used as a dedicated returner.

LINEBACKER

Good news for Micah Parsons, the Cowboys have a history of letting their uber-athlete linebackers return kicks. Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson was a notorious pretty boy and total physical marvel who could run like a receiver, he had four returns in 1975 including a goddamn 97-YARD TOUCHDOWN RETURN. Badass!
Steelers Hall of Famer Andy Russell was a phenomenal all-around athlete, 7x Pro Bowler, made an extra point attempt in 1966, and got a chance in 1967 to return some kicks, collecting 97 yards on 6 returns.
John Henry Mills was a strange little chimera of a player, he was officially listed as a linebacker but basically never played there, and only had a few offensive snaps to his name. He was more or less a career kick coverage guy, making a Pro Bowl as a special teamer in 1996 with the Oilers. in 1993 and 1994 he combined for 26 returns for an average of 19.7 yards.
Avon Riley was a starting linebacker for the Oilers in the mid-80's, he got some opportunities as an emergency returner, averaging 24.2 yards across five attempts.
Jonas Lewis, honestly hard to get a lot of information about him. Listed as a linebacker at 5'9, 210 pounds but collected a total of 17 career tackles for the 49ers from 2000-2001. Mostly used as a kick returner, with 11 career returns for 18.9 yards per return.
Obligatory Bobby Bell reference, Hall of Famer for the Chiefs. Former college quarterback, and ran back an onside for a 53-yard touchdown in the Chiefs' first Super Bowl season in 1969.

FULLBACK

Gonna try not to include too many of the old school guys, but I'm gonna cheat real quick...
Cullen Bryant is the obvious answer here as he was somewhere between the role of being the driver of offense that the position was in the 60s and the sixth offensive linemen it would become in the 90s. He had 69 kick returns for 1813 yards and three touchdowns and 71 punt returns for 707 yards, as the 234-pounder was a primary kick returner for six years as well as being the Rams' starting fullback.
Michael Robinson, another college quarterback convert, is probably best known for developing into a really formidable lead blocker for Marshawn Lynch but actually began his career as a running back and kick returner for the 49ers, 31 career returns for 21.8 yards per return.
Rock Cartwright had a fascinating little career for the Redskins, mostly used as a reserve fullback but also got some time as a running back and mostly was used as a returner. And he was damn good at it, too! 231 career returns for an average of 23.6 yards per return in an era where that was really, really solid.
One of the most prolific weapons of the modern era from the fullback position, Larry Centers, was used as a returner from time to time. As a kick returner, he had 33 career returns for an average of 18.7 yards per return and as a punt returner he had five returns for an average of 6.0 yards per return.
The Great White Hope himself, Peyton Hillis, was in a weird spot with the Broncos early in his career. Before he became the Madden cover athlete sensation that he was with the Browns, he was a fullback and emergency running back who also was used as a kick returner, with 10 returns over a two years span for an average of 19.9 yards per return.
Harold Morrow was a fullback for the Vikings in the late 90's, had 19 total kick returns for an average of 19.1 yards per return.

That's all, folks!

This was fun! Learned a lot of stuff I never would have otherwise. Here's to Fields, Parsons, and a bunch of other bizarre return prospects getting some opportunities in this strange new return meta of the NFL.
It's the dead period now, so I'll probably post some more dumbass shit in the coming months.
Until then, so long.

Hey Everyone! Welcome to the Cardinals Reddit Daily OveUnder Contest! I’ll post these daily as long as I’m able to, but I’m sure real life will get in the way here and there. This is all for fun. No prizes other than bragging rights.

Rules:

• Each question must be answered, including the tie breaker.
• Entries must be submitted before 1st pitch (I’ll do my best to turn off accepting responses at game time).
• Editing is turned off for the form entry. Duplicate entries will all be disregarded.
• At least 5 entries must be made for points to be earned for the day.
• All questions regarding the named probable pitcher will default to the starting pitcher for that team in the event that the probable pitcher does not make the start.

Scoring:

1st Place: 3 Points
2nd Place: 2 Points
3rd Place: 1 Point
Correct Tie-Breaker: 1 Point
10/10 Correct: 1 Point
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I'll keep a tally and post the results as a comment in that day's post and link it in the next day's contest thread. Points will keep accumulating throughout the season. I will be using MLB GameDay and ESPN for official scoring.
Good luck, everyone! I hope you enjoy! I'm also always open to feedback on how to improve or suggestions for questions (it can be tough trying to get enough variety!).

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OveUnder Contest: May 3rd

Vs White Sox, 7:15 CT

Brad Keller Vs Sonny Gray

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May 1st Results

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General description of the Club: Following in Versus Wolves footsteps, I say we should challenge each other to similar Experiences, essentially treating this thread like as a sort of Monthly Quest Board where we post up challenges and then look through what others put up and try it out yourself, explaining how it went in the following months thread.
Happy end of April folks. Woolie has Gon and John has apparently dropped the "facade" he's built up and Super Eyepatch Wolf is going to experience a truly insane multicultural creation known as Cybersix. Truly their recommendations are all about duality and unmasking.
My two recommendations for the month:
Paid: For those with cash, I highly recommend Strange Scaffold. A game developepublisher with a wide array of games, with a new release out recently with Life Eater and new breakout hit El Paso, Elsewhere. With that in mind, my challenge for those with money... Play El Paso, Elsewhere and Life Eater. A double feature. If you've already played one (or both), then I recommend just buying their other games to sub in. And if you're the rare one to own and play all their games... I dunno, go play some Devolver games then. I don't know what to say.
Free: Last moth I gave a simple free option, as that was a new idea to introduce. NOW. Now I'm going to recommend something that requires a bit of elbow grease and internet searching. This will be dangerous if you look in the wrong place, but it is worth it. I want whomever takes on this challenge to watch, preferably with friends...
"Wizard Guns, Dear Reader"
AKA

The True Bastardization of One Harry Potter To Spite Known Bitch J.K. Rowling.

The process includes thus: Finding a full copy of "Harry Potter and the Deathly Weapons", (probably on meganz or internet archive, the finding it part is truly up to you) and then, either with sick editing skills or very sick timing, replace the audio track of the film (either by lowering down the volume enough so you can only hear the guns or whatever preference you have), and then layer over... Wizard People, Dear Reader by Brad Neely. And of course pausing and re-aligning when necessary.

Here is the list of the currently 73 inmates executed by the state of Alabama that I wrote for my post Furman death penalty project. Alabama has set plans to carry out additional executions in the next few months, and this list might be reposted with the updated information if they happen as scheduled.
Something that should also be clarified is the dates given here are an approximate timeline of their earliest known criminal activities to their executions rather then time spent on death row. Many of the cases here are quite graphic by nature, and I don't shy away from it in my descriptions. Please read at your own risk.
The states I have left are Georgia, Florida, Missouri, Virginia, Oklahoma, and the still in progress Texas. I'll probably post my list for Georgia next whenever I have time next week.
The currently executed 73 offenders:
1. John Evans III (~1976+-1983, electric chair): A year after Evans was paroled, he and another ex convict, Wayne Ritter, went on a two month long crime spree that involved 30 armed robberies, 9 kidnappings, and 2 extortion incidents. Their rampage ended when they shot dead 34 year old Edward Nassar in front of his daughters while robbing his pawn shop. Evans' execution was controversial, as it took 24 minutes and three pulls of the switch to electrocute him. Any information on his crimes before his 1977 spree is unavailable to me.
2. Arthur Jones (1981-1986, electric chair): Jones gunned down Vaughn Thompson, a 21 year old storekeeper, and William Waymon, a 72 year old cab driver, in two robberies.
3. Wayne Ritter (1976-1986, electric chair): Ritter was the accomplice of the above mentioned John Evans. After being released from prison, he assisted him in several robberies, abductions, and the murder of Edward Nassar. Like Evans, Ritter's earlier criminal history wasn't disclosed in the sources on hand.
4. Michael Lindsey (1981-1989, electric chair): Lindsey broke in the home of 64 year old Rosemary Rutland. After tying her up, he shot and stabbed Rutland to death, and stole her Christmas presents.
5. Horace Dunkins Jr. (1980-1989, electric chair): Dunkins abducted 26 year old Lynn McCurry, bound her to a tree, and raped her. He stabbed McCurry 66 times, and left her body on the tree she was tied to. His execution was a source of controversy, as Dunkins was allegedly cognitively disabled.
6. Herbert Richardson (1977-1989, electric chair): Richardson threw a pipe bomb into the home of one of his ex girlfriend's family members in retaliation for her breaking up with him. Her niece, 11 year old Rena Callins, was killed in the attack.
7. Arthur Julius (1972-1989, electric chair): In 1972, Julius beat his boss, 74 year old Herbert Chisenhall, to death during an argument over his wages. He was given a life sentence, but was able to leave custody in 1978 on a one day release. Julius took advantage of his leave to rape his cousin, 29 year old Susie Sanders, in her home. She was strangled to death during the assault.
8. Wallace Thomas (1976-1990, electric chair): Thomas and a partner abducted 21 year old Quenette Shehane from a convenience store. She was raped, robbed, and shot to death.
9. Larry Heath (1981-1992, electric chair): Out of a desire to marry another woman, Heath orchestrated the kidnapping of his 21 year old wife Rebecca (who was 9 months pregnant with their child) with the help of some men he hired. She was abducted from their home and shot in the head.
10. Cornelius Singleton (~1972-1992, electric chair): Singleton was condemned for the robbery of a Catholic monastery that ended with the fatal strangulation of a nun, 51 year old Ann Hogan. His execution was hotly contested by his lawyers and supporters, who have alleged misconduct in the trial and investigation. Despite the controversy, Hogan's stolen watch was found in Singleton's possession. Singleton was previously convicted for a 1972 incident involving arson and burglary.
11. Willie Clisby Jr. (1979-1995, electric chair): Clisby broke into the home of 58 year old Fletcher Handley, beat him to death with an ax handle, and left with $80 in hand.
12. Varnell Weeks (1981-1995, electric chair): Weeks abducted and carjacked 24 year old Mark Batts. He bound Batts, placed a pillowcase on his head, and shot him through it. While driving Batts' stolen car in Ohio, he was flagged down by police officers, and Weeks fired on them in the confrontation. In the shootout, Weeks was captured without any causalities to the responding officers. His execution was controversial, as his lawyers claimed that he was a paranoid schizophrenic.
13. Edward Horsley Jr. (~1976-1996, electric chair): After escaping from prison with Brian Baldwin, Horsley abducted 16 year old Naomi Rolon while she was hitchhiking. Horsley raped and dismembered Rolon with an ax, and ran her body over. Although Horlsey's culpability is an overwhelming certainty, the extent of Baldwin's alleged involvement is a significant source of contention. Horsley was previously convicted of a string of robberies that ended up with a non-fatal shooting of a police officer.
14. Billy Waldrop (1982-1997, electric chair): Waldrop snuck into the home of 72 year old Thurman Donahoo and shot him in the head. He then stole $130 and a 5-carat diamond ring. To destroy any evidence of his crime, Waldrop burned the house down, and fled to California. While in hiding, he was detained by the local law enforcement for a DUI and extradited back to Alabama to face trial.
15. Walter Hill (~1952-1997, electric chair): As a teenager in the early 50s, Hill beat Sam Atmore (age unknown) to death. He was given a 10 year sentence for that murder, and took part in an escape attempt that was temporarily successful because of the watchman's negligence. After his release, Hill became a career criminal and was involved with several abduction robberies, and wound up in a cycle of repeatedly being in and out of prison. During one of his incarcerations, Hill stabbed an unidentified inmate to death, but was cleared of any charges on the grounds of self defense. In 1977, Hill started an illicit "relationship" with a 13 year old girl, and sought the permission of her stepmother, 60 year old Willie Hammock, to marry but she refused. Out of anger, Hill shot Hammock, her 34 year old daughter Lois Tatum, and Lois' 36 year old husband John dead in their home, and abducted the girl and her 16 year old adopted brother. The brother managed to escape, but Hill kidnapped a motorist he encountered in Georgia. The man escaped captivity in North Carolina, and reported Hill and the abducted girl to the local police.
16. Henry Hays (1981-1997, electric chair): Hays was a member of a local Ku Klux Klan chapter, and the son of one of the most prominent KKK leaders in Alabama. In the area, the sentencing of a black man, who was accused of murdering a white policeman, kept on getting delayed due to a string of mistrials. Hays and other members of the KKK chapter interpreted it as a sign that blacks will be able to get away with murdering whites, and sought revenge by lynching a black person at random. The unfortunate victim was 19 year old Michael Donald, who was abducted while walking home from a gas station. Donald was beaten with a tree stump, strangled with a rope, and his throat slit by Hays and his fellow Klansmen. His body was hung on a nearby tree.
17. Steven Thompson (1984-1998, electric chair): Thompson abducted 25 year old Robin Balarzs, a friend's fiancee, from her home. After he tied up and gagged her, Thompson raped Balarz and penetrated her with a knife, shaved her head, and dragged her to death with his car over a distance of 3,000 feet. He stole Balarz's wedding ring and a dollar from her purse, and sexually mutilated her body.
18. Brian Baldwin (~1977-1998, electric chair): Baldwin was the accused accomplice of the above mentioned Edward Horsley, and allegedly helped him with the sex murder of Naomi Rolon after they escaped from prison together. As mentioned in Horsley's section, Baldwin's involvement with Rolon's killing remains hotly contested to this day, and he and his supporters alleged that he was set up by institutionalized racism and tortured into confessing by investigating police officers. He was previously in prison for stealing a car.
19. Victor Kennedy (~1980-1999, electric chair): Kennedy, a career burglar, and an accomplice, Darrell Grayson, broke into the home of 86 year old Annie Orr to search for money. They bound, beat, raped, and suffocated her with a pillow case. When they failed to find any money, Kennedy and Grayson left the residence empty handed.
20. David Duren (1983-2000, electric chair): Duren and an accomplice kidnapped 16 year old Kathleen Bedsole and her date, 17 year old Charles Leonard, and stole $20 that was given to them by Bedsole's father. The couple were tied together, and locked in the trunk for several hours. When Duren stoped his car, he shot both of the teenagers. Bedsole was killed, while Leonard managed to survive and escape.
21. Freddie Wright (1977-2000, electric chair): Wright was convicted of robbing a store owned by couple, 40 year old Warren and 37 year old Lois Green, with 3 other men. The Greens were tied together, dragged into a backroom, and shot to death. Their watches and $900 were stolen in the robbery. His execution was controversial, as his attorneys and supporters push that he was convicted both out of racism and the participants allegedly naming him to avoid death sentences.
22. Robert Tarver Jr. (1984-2000, electric chair): Tarver fatally shot 63 year old Hugh Kite, while he and an accomplice were robbing him outside of his store. Kite was just done closing his store when he was attacked, and had $80 taken from him.
23. Pernell Ford (1983-2000, electric chair): Ford forced himself into the home that 70 year old Willie Griffin shared with her 42 year old daughter Linda. He stabbed both of them to death after a struggle. Several undisclosed items were stolen from the Griffin home, and Ford used their car to flee to Illinois.
24. Lynda Block (1992-2002, electric chair): Block, her common law husband, George Sibley, and her 9 year old son were sitting in car that was parked in a Walmart parking lot. A passerby was concerned by Block's son apparently looking distressed, and reported them to the police. When a police officer, 38 year old Roger Motley, came to question them, Block and Sibley shot him to death. The couple was previously involved in assaulting and stabbing Block's ex husband in a dispute over their home, a crime they were on the run from at the time of Motley's murder.
25. Anthony Johnson (1984-2002, lethal injection): While Johnson and two unidentified men were robbing a jewelry store, they engaged in a gun-battle with the owner, 51 year Kenneth Cattrell, and killed him. Although Johnson's wasn't directly responsible for Cattrell's death and only acted as a lookout, he was the only member of the gang to be captured, and thus bore the brunt of the judicial retributions when he refused to testify against them.
26. Michael Thompson (1984-2003, lethal injection): During a nighttime convenience store robbery, Thompson kidnapped the clerk, 57 year old Maisie Gray. Thompson forced Gray into his car, drove her to a well, and tossed her inside it. He then shot a trapped Gray to death with his married girlfriend holding a torch for him. His girlfriend had a longstanding record for armed robberies, and Thompson's defense tried to use the argument that she goaded him into the killing or did it herself.
27. Gary Brown (1996-2003, lethal injection): Brown and a few other men went to the home of Jack McGraw, a 59 year old Korean War veteran, to "party." On numerous previous occasions, McGraw had paid them for sex acts. They planned on robbing McGraw's house after he passed out drunk, but he refused to drink as he had work the next morning. Undeterred, Brown and his accomplices attacked McGraw, and stabbed him a combined total of 78 times. More specifically, McGraw's back was stabbed 59 times, his throat and neck were slashed 16 times, and he had 3 cut wounds on his head. The group then stole $67 and a VCR set from his home.
28. Thomas Fortenberry (1984-2004, lethal injection): Fortenberry fatally shot four people, 51 year old Wilbur Nelson, 43 year old Robert Payne, Robert's 29 year old wife Nancy, and 21 year old Ronald Guest, while attempting to rob a gas station.
29. James Hubbard (~1957-2004, lethal injection): In 1957, Hubbard shot and killed 28 year old Carl Dockery in what was described as a "domestic disturbance." He was paroled in 1976 with the help of 62 year old Lillian Montgomery, a woman he befriended behind bars. Hubbard repaid the favor by shooting and killing her while robbing a store she owned in the following year. He stole $500 and her diamond watch, and tried to stage Montgomery's death as a suicide despite the fact that he shot her in the face, head, and shoulder.
30. David Hocker (1998-2004, lethal injection): Hocker was living in a motel and didn't have a car at hand. Thus, he asked his boss, 47 year old Jerry Robinson, to drive him around for an errand. When they were in the car together, Hocker stabbed Robinson to death, stole his credit card, and withdrew $400 from it to buy cocaine. Hocker had an extensive criminal history, but the specifics weren't given in my sources.
31. Mario Centobie (1995-2005, lethal injection): Centobie and another prisoner escaped from a Georgia prison during his 40 year sentence for the double kidnappings of his ex wife and son. They fled to Alabama, and were pulled over by local policemen. Centobie opened fire on them and killed Keith Turner, a 29 year old officer, and wounded another. The pair were recaptured in Georgia near the home of Centobie's ex wife. While awaiting trial, Centobie yet again escaped by seducing a guard, but was quickly recaptured.
32. Jerry Henderson (1984-2005, lethal injection): On his sister-in-law's payroll, Henderson lured her husband, 33 year Jerry Haney, outside of his house and shot him dead.
33. George Sibley Jr. (1992-2005, lethal injection): Sibley was the common law husband of the above mentioned Lynda Block, and assisted her in the killing of officer Roger Motley. He also took part in the assault of her ex husband.
34. John Peoples Jr. (1983-2005, lethal injection): Enraged that 34 year old Paul Franklin refused to sell him his car that he coveted, Peoples broke into his home, and beat him to death with a rifle. Peoples stole the car and abducted Paul's wife, 34 year old Judy, and their 10 year old son John. They were also beaten to death with Peoples' rifle.
35. Larry Hutcherson (1992-2006, lethal injection): Hutcherson broke into the home of 89 year old Irma Gray, and slit her throat. He stole her air conditioner and microwave in the robbery.
36. Aaron Jones (1978-2006, lethal injection): After being fired by them, Jones and his partner invaded the home of their former employers, 61 year old Carl and 45 year old Williene Nelson. They shot Carl and Willene dead and chopped their bodies into several pieces. The pair also shot their 3 children, 21 year old Tony, 13 year old Brenda, and 10 year old Charlie, and Carl's mother, 85 year old Annie, but they all managed to survive their injuries.
37. Darrell Grayson (1980-2007, lethal injection): Grayson was the accomplice of the previously mentioned Victor Kennedy, and partook in the rape and murder of Annie Orr and the burglary of her home.
38. Luther Williams (1988-2007, lethal injection): While John Kirk, a 63 year old WW2 veteran, was driving home from work, his truck broke down. He was found and abducted by Williams and 2 other men, and shot to death by them. The trio then stole money from Kirk's body and his truck.
39. James Callahan (1982-2009, lethal injection): Callahan kidnapped 26 year old Becky Howell, while she was walking from a club her fiance was performing to switch laundry that she left at a laundromat. Howell was raped and strangled to death.
40. Danny Bradley (1983-2009, lethal injection): When his wife was hospitalized, Bradley was left to care for his stepdaughter, 12 year old Rhonda Hardin, and his stepson. After he put his stepson to bed, Bradley sodomized Hardin and choked her to death with his bare hands.
41. Jimmy Dill (~1983-2009, lethal injection) Dill shot his dealer, 33 year old Leon Shaw, in the head during a deal gone bad, and stole $200 and a few bags of cocaine. Shaw was left comatose and died of his injuries 9 months later. Dill had an extensive criminal record for theft and drug possession.
42. Willie McNair (1990-2009, lethal injection): McNair and an accomplice went to the home of his occasional employer, 68 year old Ella Riley, to ask for some money. When Riley declined to give them any, McNair tricked her into letting him inside by asking for a drink of water. After walking in, he stabbed Riley in the neck and strangled her to death. The pair then fled with her purse.
43. Jack Trawick (~1972-2009, lethal injection): Trawick was convicted or credibly confessed to a minimum of 3 murders. His verified victims consist of 27 year old Aileen Pruitt, 21 year old Stephanie Gach, and 17 year old Betty Richards. In his known murders, he forcibly abducted his victims from public locations, and raped and tortured them. They were then stabbed and beaten to death with a hammer. Trawick bragged in graphic details about committing other murders on a website made for death row inmates, which he also used to taunt the victims' families. However, investigations into the alleged additional killings brought no results, and are now believed to have been fictionalized by Trawick for clout.
44. Max Payne (1992-2009, lethal injection): Payne robbed a store at gunpoint, and kidnapped the owner, 58 year old Braxton Brown. He took Brown to his sister's house and tried forcing him into giving them money. When his sister objected, Payne dragged Brown to a bridge, shot him in the head, and dumped his body in the nearby creek. A total of $1,085 in cash and many of Brown's belongings were stolen, which included bank deposit checks, rings, cigarettes, food stamps, and a handgun.
45. Thomas Whisenhant (~1963-2010, lethal injection): At the age of 16, Whisenhant fatally shot 72 year old Lexie Haynes in one incident and robbed an unidentified blind woman in another. For uknown reasons, the charges were dropped against him, and he was able to join the air force. A few years later, he assaulted Rose Covington, a 22 year old WAF servicewoman, with an ashtray, and was discharged and sentenced to 20 years of hard labor for the attack. Whisenhant was granted parole in 1972. Another couple years later, he went on a crime spree, and abducted 3 women that worked in convenience stores he robbed. His victims, 44 year old Venora Hyatt, 28 year old Patricia Hitt, and 23 year old Cheryl Payton, were all raped and shot in the head.
46. John Parker (1988-2010, lethal injection): Parker and his accomplice Kenneth Smith was hired to kill 42 year old Elizabeth Sennett, by her husband, who wanted to use her life insurance policy to fund his ministering. Her husband was also Parker's landlord. The pair tricked Sennett into letting them inside the house by pretending to be hunters inquiring about for a hunting spot, and stabbed her to death. Sennett's husband then gave Parker and Smith their stereo and video cassette recorders to make it look like a robbery.
47. Michael Land (~1990-2010, lethal injection): Land kidnapped 30 year old Candace Brown from her apartment after he cut her telephone line. He raped Brown, shot her in the head, and stole her purse. Land had prior convictions of burglaries and receiving stolen goods, and previously met Brown in prison when she ministered to him.
48. Holly Wood (~1981-2010, lethal injection): In 1994, Wood shot his ex girlfriend, 34 year old Ruby Gosha, at point blank range in front of her children at her mother's home. He had also (non-fatally) shot another ex girlfriend from outside her bedroom window several years before Gosha's murder. His criminal history was extensive, and had 18 different felonies on his record. Some of the charges pertained to incidents of assault.
49. Phillip Hallford (~1978-2010, lethal injection): Hallford was jealousy enraged that his 15 year old daughter, whom he had been sexually abusing since she was 7, was dating 16 year old Charles Shannon. He forced her to lure Shannon to a bridge, gunned him down, and stole his wallet. With the coerced help of his stepson, Hallford dumped Shannon's body into a river. As a memento, Hallford forced his daughter to wear a necklace with the shell casing used in the murder.
50. Leroy White (1988-2011, lethal injection): White shot his estranged wife, 35 year old Ruby, dead while she was visiting her sister out of anger at their upcoming divorce. Ruby's sister was wounded in the shooting. White had also previously shot and injured Ruby's leg during an argument.
51. William Boyd (1986-2011, lethal injection): Boyd and a partner broke into the home of married couple, 76 year old Fred and 41 year old Evelyn Blackmon, and duped them into thinking that Evelyn's daughter (whom Boyd previously dated against her mother's wishes) was kidnapped. They made the couple believe that they had to pay a $3,000 ransom for her safe return. The couple were then both tied up, forcibly separated into their captors' cars, and beaten and shot to death.
52. Jason Williams (1992-2011, lethal injection): Under the influence of cocaine, Williams shot his roommate, 46 year old Gerald Paravicini dead in the trailer they shared. William then walked over to his neighbors, the Barber family (consisting of parents, 50 year old Freddie and 45 year old Linda, and their sons, 22 year old Bryan and 16 year old Brad) and intruded into their home. He shot and killed Freddie, Linda, and Bryan, and wounded Brad. Cash and credit cards were taken and Williams fled in the family van.
53. Eddie Powell III (~1990s-2011, lethal injection): Powell broke into the home of 70 year old Mattie Wesson, and repeatedly sexually assaulted her. Wesson was beaten and shot in the attack, but she managed to drag herself to a neighbor's house for help before she succumbed to her injuries. Powell had several previous convictions for burglary, theft, and assault.
54. Derrick Mason (1994-2011, lethal injection): Mason held up a convenience store, and forced the clerk, 25 year old Angela Cagle to turn off the cameras and undress. However, he shot Cagle in the head before any assault could occur. He then tried to open the register, but ran off when he failed to open it.
55. Christopher Johnson (2005-2011, lethal injection): To avoid paying child support and to spite his estranged wife, Johnson smothered his 6 month old son Eilas with his fingers, and struck him in the head.
56. Andrew Lackey (2005-2013, lethal injection): After being told about the existence of a vault inside the home of Charles Newman, a 80 year old WW2 veteran, by Newman's grandson, Lackey decided to steal it from him. He invaded Newman's house, and shot and stabbed him 70 times in the ensuring confrontation. Despite Lackey waiving his appeals and actively petitioning for his own execution, his death sentence attracted controversy due to him being diagnosed with Asperger's.
57. Christopher Brooks (1992-2016, lethal injection): Brooks snuck into the apartment of 23 year old Jo Campbell. He sexually assaulted Campbell in her bedroom, and bludgeoned her to death with a barbell. Several items, including a credit card, were stolen from the scene.
58. Ronald Smith Jr. (1994-2016, lethal injection): Smith and some accomplices robbed a convenience store, and fatally shot the clerk, 26 year old Casey Wilson. According to Smith's attorneys, Smith and Wilson were allegedly involved in a love triangle with a local stripper. If such accounts are to be believed, he shot him dead in a dispute over her, and Smith staged it as a robbery to avoid embarrassing his parents. However, the stripper strongly denied having any connections with both men. His execution sparked controversy, as witnesses reported him coughing and heaving for 13 minutes during it.
59. Thomas Arthur (1982-2017, lethal injection): Arthur's married girlfriend hired him to kill her husband, 35 year old Troy Wicker, for his insurance policy. He gunned down Wicker while he was sleeping in his bedroom. To mislead investigators, Wicker's wife claimed that an intruder broke into her home, shot her husband dead, and raped her.
60. Robert Melson (1994-2017, lethal injection): Melson and his partner held up a Popeyes store at gunpoint. They rounded up the employees, 23 year old Darrell Collier, 18 year old Tamika Collins, 17 year old Nathaniel Baker, and 17 year Bryant Archer, into a freezer, and shot them. Archer was the sole survivor, and identified Melson's accomplice, a former employee, to the police. Although Melson's accomplice was initially given a life sentence due to him being a minor at the time, he was later also sentenced to death for killing a cellmate, and is currently awaiting execution.
61. Torrey McNabb (1997-2017, lethal injection): McNabb skipped bail when he was facing charges for receiving stolen property and drug possession. He was tracked down by a bondsman sent to bring him back to court, but he shot at him when he appeared at his doorsteps. The bondsman then called the police for support. One of the responding officers, 30 year old Anderson Gordon, was killed in the standoff with McNabb.
62. Michael Eggers (2000-2018, lethal injection): Eggers and his ex employer, 67 year old Bennie Murray, were in talks about him returning to his former job at her carnival. While Murray was driving Eggers and his 15 year old son, they got into an argument. During the fight, Murray slapped Eggers, which enraged him. He beat and choked her with his hands until she went unconscious, and tossed Murray out of her car. Eggers continued to beat and kick Murray, and crushed her throat with a tree branch. After she was killed, Eggers stole money from Murray's purse, and drove away in her car.
63. Walter Moody (~1972-2018, lethal injection): In 1972, Moody was building a bomb to kill an auto dealer that repossessed his car. However, the bomb exploded prematurely, and critically injured Moody's then wife instead. Although Moody was cleared of charges relating to the construction of the bomb, he was still convicted of it being in his possession. His appeals were thrown away, which gave him a resentment against the justice system. After Moody was released from prison, he murdered a federal judge, 58 year old Robert Vance, and a civil rights attorney, 42 year old Robbie Robinson, and injured Vance's wife, in two separate bombings. To disguise his attacks, Moody sent bombs and hate letters to various NAACP targets.
64. Domineque Ray (1992-2019, lethal injection): Ray shot and killed two brothers, 18 year old Ernest and 13 year old Reinhard Mabins, for refusing to join his gang. In the following year, Ray and his gang members kidnapped 15 year old Tiffany Harville from her home and raped her. Her throat was slit and she was dumped in a remote cotton field.
65. Michael Samra (1997-2019, lethal injection): During an argument over a pick up truck, Samra and his teenage friend shot and killed his friend's father, 39 year old Randy Duke, and step mother, 29 year old Dedra Hunt. The pair also slit the throats of Dedra's two children, 7 year old Chelsea and 6 year old Chelisa.
66. Christopher Price (~1990-2019, lethal injection): Price invaded the home of Bill Lynn, a 57 year old pastor, while he was busy wrapping Christmas presents for his grandchildren. He stabbed Bill 30 times with a sword and injured his wife Bessie when they confronted him. Despite being only 19 at the time, Price had an extensive criminal history that involved trespassing, auto theft, and "criminal mischief."
67. Nathaniel Woods (~2004-2020, lethal injection): A squad of 4 police officers, 58 year old Carlos Owen, 40 year old Harley Chisholm III, 37 year old Michael Collins, and 33 year old Charles Bennett, were searching a drug house that Woods, a long time dealer, had been operating in. As they were arresting Woods, one of his associates opened fire on them and killed Chisholm, Bennett, and Owen. Collins was wounded, but managed to flee to safety. Wood's execution was extremely controversial, as he wasn't the triggerman in the shootings. His supporters and the shooter himself claimed that he was an entirely innocent party, while the prosecutors pushed that he deliberately lured the officers to their deaths.
68. Willie Smith III (1991-2021, lethal injection): Smith kidnapped 22 year old Sharma Johnson at gunpoint near a bank, and forced her to withdraw $80 from an ATM machine. He locked Johnson in the trunk of her own car, and shot her dead while she was trapped in it. The car was then burned to destroy the evidence.
69. Matthew Reeves (1996-2022, lethal injection): Reeves and two other men pretended to be hitchhikers on a remote highway as a ruse to lure motorists. The target they ensnared was 38 year old Willie Johnson Jr. They robbed Johnson of $360 when he stopped to pick them up, and Reeves shot him to death with a shotgun. Reeves then attended a party reportedly still covered with Johnson's blood, and celebrated by pretending to pump the gun and mockingly mimicked his death throes to the other guests.
70. Joe James Jr. (1993-2022, lethal injection): James tracked down his ex girlfriend, 26 year old Faith Hill, at her friend's apartment. She was in the company of her children, her friend, and her friend's children. The friend shielded the children from James with her body, while Hill tried desperately to calm him down. Despite her efforts, she was shot dead. His execution sparked controversy for it taking over 3 hours to complete, and caused the state of Alabama to delay executions until 2023. James was previously arrested and reported several times for harassing Hill's family, which included an incident of him burglarizing her grandmother's home.
71. James Barber (2001-2023, lethal injection): Barber assaulted 75 year old Dorothy Epps, who was both his ex girlfriend's mother and a former employer, with a claw hammer in her home. Despite her efforts at fighting him off, Epps was beaten to death, and Barber stole her purse.
72. Casey McWhorter (1993-2023, lethal injection): McWhorter conspired with a 15 year old friend and a 16 year old friend to kill 34 year old Edward Williams, the father of the 15 year old. The group tried to force Williams to had over a safe, but he tried to fight back. They shot him a total of 11 times with a .22 rifle equipped with a makeshift silencer in his home and took his truck, wallet, and an undisclosed amount of money. The stolen truck was destroyed in order to sell the parts for scrap metal.
73. Kenneth Smith (1988-2024, nitrogen hypoxia): Smith assisted John Parker in the contract killing of Elizabeth Sennett on the behalf of her husband. His case attracted controversy when he survived a botched execution in 2022, and received international attention for being the first inmate in history to be executed with the controversially experimental nitrogen hypoxia method.

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1.1 CHI - Caleb Williams, QB, USC. The no-brainer selection. No changes.
1.2 WAS - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU. Switched to Daniels, they love him, need a QB, seems easy enough.
1.3 NE - Drake Maye, QB, UNC. Same position, only this time Mayo gets who I believe to be his QB1 by sitting and staying patient.
1.4 ARI - Marvin Harrison, Jr., WR, OSU. BPA that fits a need, no changes from v1.0.
1.5 LAC - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame. Considered everything, keeping it at Alt. No changes from v1.0.
1.6 NYG - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington. No changes from v1.0.
1.7 TEN - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU. No changes from v1.0.
1.8 ATL - Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama. No changes from v1.0.
1.9 CHI - Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas. Briefly considered the Bears trading back, but I don’t think they can risk losing Murphy who I already had going at 13 in v1.0. Bears have been looking for a dominant IDL for 2 straight years now, with talks of Yannick coming back after the draft, I can see them shifting away from the EDGE’s in this class and selecting a player that solidifies the DL makeover.
1.10 NYJ - Brock Bowers, TE, UGA. The Jets have to be in one of the worst spots. Hard to believe holding a Top 10 pick. Changed this up from the Rams moving up as 1. I think they are fine with Alaric Jackson at LT and 2. Because unless it’s one of the teams picking in the 20’s and 30’s, I don’t think the Jets are going to get what they want to move back. They go with Bowers, someone I had 10 spots lower but he’s an immediate weapon for Aaron Rodgers. I’ve considered CB and WR here as well but going with Bowers for the upgrade he will bring at Slot WR in addition to TE.
1.11 MIN - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama. Same position, different player. Arnold can play outside or in the Nickel, an upgrade at CB.
1.12 JAC via DEN - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama. (JAC Receives: 1.12, 3.76; DEN Receives: 1.17, 2.48.) Denver still trades out of this pick, but a different Bama Boy goes here. Seems like a surprise and I admit, I was wrong about where NFL teams had Kool-Aid. I think he’s going much higher than projected. Jacksonville moves up as he could go with the next pick to Vegas. Immediate starter, fits Jacksonville’s system as well.
1.13 LV - JC Latham, OT, Ala. Same player, only they don’t have to move up for him anymore. So slight change from v1.0. I have him listed as and OT but it’s entirely possible for them to have him at RG and Munford at RT which is his stronger position.
1.14 NO - Olu Fashanu, OT, PSU. Saints can’t afford to move off this pick anymore unless it’s up, not down. They need to just stick here and draft the BTA- best tackle available. Luckily, they get a stud LT and they can move Penning somewhere and best case scenario is Ram is back to start at RT and Penning can slide into LG.
1.15 DET via IND - Jared Verse, EDGE, FSU. (DET Receives: 1.15; IND Receives: 1.29, 5.164, 2025 1st Round Selection.) I assure you, there is one team that wears blue and silver whose city starts with “D” in the NFC that is primed to go “all-in” this year and it ain’t Dallas. Brad Holmes is going to have to pay a premium here as you’re asking Chris Ballard to move off of a 1st Round talent that also very easily fills a future need with Kwity Paye’s 5YO still in limbo. Jared has elite bend which Brad Holmes covets in his EDGE’s. A Weakside DE that allows MCDC and company to continue to use Aidan Hutchinson in more creative ways going forward.
1.16 SEA - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma. TG is a better prospect than most give him credit for. Great footwork, good power, needs more reps, reminds me of another OT that the Seahawks drafted a couple years ago in Charles Cross. Guyton slides into RT, pushes Abe Lucase inside and leaving open competition at whichever Guard spot he does not take. An upgrade of the entire OL in one player. Great value.
1.17 DEN via JAC - Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA. I am very happy that the neck didn’t get flagged for medical, Latu rises from where I had him last mock at 32, I feel more comfortable projecting him a little higher now. Immediate contributor, starter, and foundational piece for a Denver team void of talent in a lot of areas.
1.18 CIN - Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas. Can’t coach speed and creativity which Worthy certainly has. Fastest player in this class and one of the best all-around deep threats the NFL is set to see.
1.19 LAR - Chop Robinson, EDGE, PSU. Rams stand pat and draft who I consider to be the last elite EDGE prospect in the class. Chop fits what they would want to do, can drop into coverage, can rush the passer, can mix it up on both sides of the ball. Shame we couldn’t get to see what he and Donald could do together.
1.20 PIT - Graham Barton, C, Duke. Immediate starter wherever they put him but Center would be ideal. Good, consistent, solid asskicker in the interior.
1.21 MIN via MIA - JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan. (MIN Receives: 1.21; MIA Receives: 1.23, 4.129.)
Stares at -1000 line for JJ to go in the Top 10.
Comfortably mocks JJ at 21.
There you have it. Vikings move up for JJ. At the expense of a 4th Round pick, not an entire city’s future. This pick at 21 seems like a HUB for heavy trade activity no matter who may move up. If I was 100% convinced that Penix was healthy, I think I would leave him here, but availability>ability in the NFL so I have JJ as a prospect that they can sit for a year and hope he’s ready by the time 2025 rolls around.
1.22 PHI - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon St. There are exactly 2 picks that I have never changed in any version of my offline work: 1. Caleb Williams to the Bears. 2. This one. I’ve parked Fuaga here since Day 1 and never thought about it again. No changes from version anything.
1.23 MIA via MIN - Amarius Mims, OT, UGA. A bit more time to cook here but offers strong positional value going forward. Mims could even take the approach that the Cowboys took with Tyler Smith and slide him into LG, perhaps even RG. I like him for development at LT or RT, wherever they should move him in the future.
1.24 BUF via DAL - Brian Thomas, Jr., WR, LSU. (BUF Receives: 1.24, 5.174; DAL Receives: 1.28, 4.128, 5.144) BTJ moves up a couple of spots, Dallas lands a 4th round pick, a round that they seem to have a lot of interest in regarding the prospects there. Thomas replaces what was lost in Diggs and if you’re a fantasy football player, you gotta love his upside with Josh Allen.
1.25 GB - Cooper DeJean, CB/S, Iowa. There’s nothing I can say that anyone else hasn’t already with this pick. Moving on…
1.26 NE via TB - AD Mitchell, WR, Texas. (NE Receives: 1.26; TB Receives: 2.34, 4.103, 6.180.) Same trade, different face. I can see this being either OT or WR, I will lean towards WR being the priority for NE.
1.27 ARI - Darius Robinson, DT, Missouri. No more trade up, so Arizona takes an interior force that can help defend against the run and offer some interior pass rushing value as well. I see more of an IDL than an EDGE here and I think his RAS should confirm where teams value him as well.
1.28 DAL via BUF - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson. There are other pressing needs but Wiggins could be a BPA value for Dallas. I think there may be more priority at C and I don’t like any of the fits available right now. Dallas has shown a consistency to draft their BPA in the 1st more often than not and filling more critical needs in the draft, I can see them doing the same this year. Talent wise, I would say Wiggins is a Top 10 value. As far as intensity and weight, there’s much to be desired. I think Dallas can uncap his potential.
1.29 IND via DET - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo. Mitchell is someone I can actually see sliding into the top of the 2nd. He’s much more raw than I had initially realized. Definitely needs more time to cook, but the upside is there. I saw him as a prospect on par with Devon Witherspoon- I think he is, but just an unpolished version. He’s closer to Deonte Banks. High athleticism, moments of elite play, but inconsistency is what pushes him down further than he’s being mocked. The lowest I’ve had him is at the Cardinals pick in the 2nd.
1.30 TEN via BAL - Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU. (TEN Receives: 1.30, 7.228; BAL Receives: 2.38, 4.106, 6.182.) Tennessee needs TWO starting OT’s. After selecting BPA at 7, they make a move up for one of the last remaining fringe 1st rounders. I think they would have to move up to secure him as there are too many teams that need LT picking between them. I think DHop could even be mixed into this trade somehow too now that they have Nabers. I don’t really got time for that though.
1.31 SF - Christian Haynes, G, UConn. No changes from v1.0.
1.32 KC - Ja’Lynn Polk, WR, Washington. Probably happens via a tradedown, but I don’t really want to do all that tbh. Polk has been a steady riser, lots of talk about how teams view him as a Top 40 prospect. Lots of smoke with him and the Chiefs. I’ll buy-in to it, only if he’s a Top 40 prospect, then why not list him as a Top 32?
2.33 CAR - Ladd McConkey, WR, UGA.
2.34 TB via NE - Xavier Legette, WR, SCSU.
2.35 ARI - Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon.
2.36 WAS - Adisa Isaac, EDGE, PSU.
2.37 LAC - Kris Jenkins, DT, Mich.
2.38 BAL via TEN - Cooper Beebe, G, KSU.
2.39 CAR - Javon Bullard, S, UGA.
2.40 WAS - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S, Texas Tech.
2.41 GB - Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M.
2.42 HOU - Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois.
2.43 ATL - Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida.
2.44 LV - Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan.
2.45 NO - Keon Coleman, WR, FSU.
2.46 IND - Theo Johnson, TE, PSU.
2.47 NYG - Michael Penix, Jr., QB, Washington. (Probably through trade-up, but I don't have time for that.)
2.48 DEN via JAC - Zach Frazier, C, WVU.
2.49 CIN - Blake Fisher, OT, ND.
2.50 PHI - Ben Sinnott, TE, KSU.
2.51 PIT - Max Melton, CB, Rutgers.
2.52 LAR - Braden Fiske, DT, FSU.
2.53 PHI - Kamari Lassiter, CB, UGA.
2.54 CLE - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan.
2.55 MIA - Caden Bullock, S, USC.
2.56 DAL - Jordan Morgan, G/T, UAZ.
2.57 ARI via TB - Renardo Green, CB, FSU.
2.58 GB - Caedan Wallace, T/G, PSU.
2.59 HOU - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan.
2.60 BUF - Dominic Puni, IOL, KS.
2.61 DET - Ennis Rakestraw, Jr., CB, Mizz.
2.62 BAL - Chris Braswell, DPR, Alabama.
2.63 SF - Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE, WMU.
2.64 KC - Cedric Gray, LB, UNC.
3.65 CAR - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee.
3.66 TB via ARI - Bo Nix, QB, Oregon.
3.67 WAS - Jordan Magee, LB, Temple.
3.68 NE - Patrick Paul, OT, Houston.
3.69 LAC - Ruke Orhorhoro, NT, Clemson.
3.70 NYG - Trey Benson, RB, FSU.
3.71 ARI - Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington
3.72 NYJ - Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
3.73 DET - Jermain Burton, WR, Alabama.
3.74 ATL - Sedrick Van Pran-Grange, C, UGA.
3.75 CHI - Javon Baker, WR, UCF.
3.76 JAC via DEN - Malachi Corley, WR, WKU.
3.77 LVR - Jordan Hicks, S, WVU.
3.78 WAS - Troy Fautanu, OT, Wash. I don’t usually comment on 3rd rounders but I am in the buy with the medical red flag on Fautanu’s knee.
3.79 ATL - Leonard Taylor III, DT, Miami.
3.80 CIN - Audric Estime, RB, ND.
3.81 SEA - Cam Hart, CB, ND.
3.82 IND - Brandon Coleman, G, TCU.
3.83 LAR - Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon.
3.84 PIT - Malik Washington, WR, Virginia.
3.85 CLE - Cade Stover, TE, OSU.
3.86 HOU - TJ Tampa, CB, ISU.
3.87 DAL - Johnathon Brooks, RB, Texas.
3.88 GB - Cole Bishop, S, Utah.
3.89 TB - Omar Brown, S, Nebraska.
3.90 ARI - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC.
3.91 GB - Edefuan Ulofoshio, LB, Washington
3.92 TB - Nathaniel Watson, LB, Miss. St.
3.93 BAL - Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington
3.94 SF - Elijah Jones, CB, BC.
3.95 KC - Jaylin Simpson, S, Auburn.
3.96 JAC - Erick All, TE, Iowa.
3.97 CIN - Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas.
3.98 PIT - Michael Hall, Jr., DL, OSU.
3.99 LAR - Jaylan Ford, LB, Texas.
3.100 WAS - Christian Jones, OT, Texas.
Notable slides:
-WR Troy Franklin: Soft, one-dimensional, ceiling is believed to be WR2 at best.
-WR Roman Wilson: Just think top of the 4th is more of his range.
-LB Payton Wilson: Too many concerns about long-term health to mock him higher even though on talent alone he’s my LB1.
-LT Kiran Amegadjie: I like the traits, don’t like much else. Great value on Day 3 though.

Cam Neely eyes Brad Marchand coming for his goals record. This is literally the shot they cut to on the nesn broadcast afer posting that stat and it had me in stitches.

It’s not “election interference," folks. No matter how many times Rachel Maddow says it, no matter how many times Norm Eisen writes it. If I have to hear the phrase again, my spleen is going to implode. It’s smoke and mirrors. Wishing something were true does not make it so.
There is no law stating that voters are entitled to know every bad thing a candidate has ever done before election day. None. We don’t have Maoist struggle sessions before each campaign, where candidates are forced to confess their sins. Trying to keep negative items from your past out of the news before an election is not a crime. If it was, every candidate and campaign manager in US history would be serving time at Riker’s Island.
Ask yourself if it should be? If you think the answer is yes, consider these scenarios:
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A 59-year-old woman is running for Senate in Missouri. After a few kids, she has some incontinence issues and wears bladder control pads. It’s personal, it’s embarrassing, and she’s worried it might make her look old, so she works to keep it out of the press. Is she committing “election interference?” Is she committing a felony? Should this woman go to jail? Of course not.
A married, 44-year-old Congressman is running for re-election in Ohio. Seventeen years ago he got drunk and had a one-night stand. He confessed it to his wife then, she forgave him, they worked through it, and they now have a wonderful marriage. If he works to keep that out of the press, is he committing “election interference?” Should he have a felony conviction? Should he go to jail, and leave his family without a bread winner? Ridiculous.

I could list myriad examples, but you get the point. Trump’s phony electors scheme was election interference. Threatening Brad Raffensperger was election interference. The January 6th attack on the Capitol was election interference. Seizing voting machines in Coffee Country was election interference. Stormy Daniels is not.
Affairs are not illegal. Hush money payments are not illegal. Catch & kill schemes are not illegal. There are no salient campaign finance issues here either: Daniels was paid from Trump’s personal accounts, not from campaign coffers. Even if it was a campaign expense, candidates are allowed to give unlimited amounts of money to their own campaigns. There is no cap. The only malfeasance here is shuffling around some payments to cover it up - which is a misdemeanor process crime in New York state. It only rises to the level of a felony if it’s in effort to cover up a crime. And, as stated above, there was no crime to cover up in the first place.
“But Michael Cohen was convicted and went to jail!” shout the pundits. No, he wasn’t. Cohen plead guilty - he never had a jury trial with a verdict. Also remember that the majority of Michael Cohen’s charges were related to tax evasion, loan fraud, and lying to Congress that had nothing to do with the Daniels affair. Only one count was related to Daniels, and if he chose to go to trial on that count he probably would have won. But Michael Cohen is a troglodytic moron and a scumbag, and turning against Trump doesn’t change that. Every time he opens his yap and I hear that accent, I want to smack his Jewgine ass back across the Hudson to Jersey.
From a legal standpoint, this case has always been weak sauce. Cy Vance knew it, which is why (in addition to pressure from Bill Barr) he never charged it. Bragg’s only hope here is to dredge up as much of Trump’s disgusting, abhorrent behavior as possible so the the jury convicts on character instead of the law. If only one juror decides to follow the law instead, this case is hung.
I don’t like the odds.

nfl 2nd Annual Official Mock Draft - Bengals Draft Results
nfl just finished year two of a mock draft where teams were controlled by users from their respective subreddits. The Draft took place over the weekend (4/20 & 4/21). Teams had 7 minutes per pick for the first two rounds, 4 minutes per pick in rounds 3-7. Last year, we had 3 representatives. This year, it was just me.
Teams take over starting a few weeks ago post free agency and are eligible to make pre-draft trades before the draft, as long as the financials can be explained.
Let me know how I did, I feel pretty good about it this year.
Pre- Draft: bengals stayed pretty quiet in the lead up to the draft. I heard offers on Tee Higgins but none of them were worth more than about a high 3rd round pick worth of value. I was holding out for a trade at least equivalent to a mid to high 2nd round pick’s worth of value, worth about 450 points minimum on the standard Jimmy Johnson / Rich Hill trade chart. People will argue his value, but this felt like a fair value to move on. He’s a very good WR on a highly paid 1-year deal, with a potential near top of market option for year two ($26.16 Million 2nd tag). Last year was not Tee’s best year and he has consistently stayed healthy. He is also now highly paid. I would love to keep Tee for a year or possibly even two and we all love him but a good trade return could likely be better long term than 1 year of solid return on a highly paid contract. He’s a really good WR, but there’s not much excess value left on his deal.
A couple days before the draft, I made one of the biggest trade splashes in the exercise. I accepted the following trade:
Bengals give up -
Tee Higgins, pick 97, 214 & 237
Patriots give up -
Pick 34
Given the Bengals have 10 selections and 4 of them are mid 6ths or later, I was willing to combine a few late picks in a trade package. Given the Bengals only have about 10 open free roster spots on the 53-man roster, I figured making 8-9 selections will work out well. I was planning on adding another pick during the draft, as I eliminated two draft picks and Tee’s roster spot. This adds the need for another draft pick. I figured I could get a really good player that fell from the 1st at 34. The Bengals need difference makers as well at this point, not just more depth.
Draft Selections:
Pick 1.18 - Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
Pick 1.32 - Jer’Zhawn Newton, DT Illinois
Pick 2.64 - Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
Pick 3.80 - Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
Pick 3.95 - Kris Abrams - Draire, CB Missouri
Pick 4.115 - Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
Pick 5.149 - Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
Pick 5.170 - Hunter Nourzad, IOL Penn State
Pick 7. 224 - Ryan Rehkow, P BYU
Picks I came into the draft with -
1.18 , 2.34, 2.49, 3.80, 4. 115, 5. 149, 6. 194, 7.224
Day of Draft Trades -
Traded pick 34 and 49 for pick 32, 64 & 95 to the Chiefs.
Traded pick 194 and a 2025 6th for a 2025 7th rounder and pick 170 to the Saints.
Draft “Thought Process” -
The idea I came in with was that I needed to: get a DT and an OT in the first 3 rounds and also needed to replace Tee Higgins’ production as much as possible. An OT and DT in the first two rounds was ideal.
With pick 1.18, Taliese Fuaga was still in the board and for me, he was the easy selection.
As pick 32 was coming up, Johnny Newton was still available. He isn’t a true Nose Tackle, but his talent is undeniable and a true value at this point in the draft. I also wanted to add a pick in the draft. I agreed with a Chiefs on a trade, as moving into the mid 2nd to target a WR was a priority for them. They were willing to move a pick and let me trade into the first in order to move up from 49 from 64.
Trade - Bengals give up pick 34, 49 to the Chiefs in exchange for 32, 64 & 95
Pick 32, the Bengals select Johnny Newton to round out the first round. I felt good getting a premier RT and DT early.
I also knew for the rest of the draft, I wanted to focus on offensive players capable of producing explosive plays. This is a focus for the Bengals this season. We needed more speed and YAC potential. I also needed a CB to add to the rotation.
At 2.64, I took Malachi Corley… a YAC merchant with good athleticism. At 3.80, I doubled up and took Devontez Walker, a 9.88 RAS score WR who ran a 4.36 and is a major deep threat. At pick 95, I selected Kris Abrams-Draine. Not the best athlete but a solid contributor with solid mixture of off-man, zone and press coverage who can compete in the CB room right away and potentially be a starter in the future. At pick 115, I added TE Cade Stover. I don’t feel like we desperately need a TE, but that was good value and felt like one of the best players on the board. At pick 149, I added RB Isaac Guerendo. He has 4.33 speed and a 9.98 RAS score. He may have mixed tape, but his athleticism is undeniable and has the highest RAS score of this year’s RBs. He could be a “score from anywhere” type of threat and is a good 3rd back for this team. I wanted an IOL but it was a little early for what was left on the board and felt like I could get one closer to 194. Before 194 was available, Hunter Nourzad was falling and seemingly going unnoticed. I traded up to 170 to take him in exchange for 194 and a 2025 6th round for 7th round swap with the Saints. For pick, 224, I considered adding a depth LB / special teams player, but decided taking a punter to replace or compete with Brad Robbins was a bigger priority.
I will tag the main nfl draft post when it gets posted later.
Potential other scenarios considered:
Byron Murphy at 18 then Patrick Paul at 49 with no Tee Higgins trade.
Tee Higgins trade and then Mims or best OT available at 18, WR Troy Franklin at 34 and Kris Jenkins at 49. Particularly thought about this outcome a lot before the opportunity to draft Newton presented itself.
**Update - Here was the draft order for all the picks
Last year’s draft results

nfl 2nd Annual Official Mock Draft - Bengals Draft Results
nfl just finished year two of a mock draft where teams were controlled by users from their respective subreddits. The Draft took place over the weekend (4/20 & 4/21). Teams had 7 minutes per pick for the first two rounds, 4 minutes per pick in rounds 3-7. Last year, we had 3 representatives. This year, it was just me.
Teams take over starting a few weeks ago post free agency and are eligible to make pre-draft trades before the draft, as long as the financials can be explained.
Let me know how I did, I feel pretty good about it this year.
Pre- Draft: bengals stayed pretty quiet in the lead up to the draft. I heard offers on Tee Higgins but none of them were worth more than about a high 3rd round pick worth of value. I was holding out for a trade at least equivalent to a mid to high 2nd round pick’s worth of value, worth about 450 points minimum on the standard Jimmy Johnson / Rich Hill trade chart. People will argue his value, but this felt like a fair value to move on. He’s a very good WR on a highly paid 1-year deal, with a potential near top of market option for year two ($26.16 Million 2nd tag). Last year was not Tee’s best year and he has consistently stayed healthy. He is also now highly paid. I would love to keep Tee for a year or possibly even two and we all love him but a good trade return could likely be better long term than 1 year of solid return on a highly paid contract. He’s a really good WR, but there’s not much excess value left on his deal.
A couple days before the draft, I made one of the biggest trade splashes in the exercise. I accepted the following trade:
Bengals give up -
Tee Higgins, pick 97, 214 & 237
Patriots give up -
Pick 34
Given the Bengals have 10 selections and 4 of them are mid 6ths or later, I was willing to combine a few late picks in a trade package. Given the Bengals only have about 10 open free roster spots on the 53-man roster, I figured making 8-9 selections will work out well. I was planning on adding another pick during the draft, as I eliminated two draft picks and Tee’s roster spot. This adds the need for another draft pick. I figured I could get a really good player that fell from the 1st at 34. The Bengals need difference makers as well at this point, not just more depth.
Draft Selections:
Pick 1.18 - Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
Pick 1.32 - Jer’Zhawn Newton, DT Illinois
Pick 2.64 - Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
Pick 3.80 - Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
Pick 3.95 - Kris Abrams - Draire, CB Missouri
Pick 4.115 - Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
Pick 5.149 - Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
Pick 5.170 - Hunter Nourzad, IOL Penn State
Pick 7. 224 - Ryan Rehkow, P BYU
Picks I came into the draft with -
1.18 , 2.34, 2.49, 3.80, 4. 115, 5. 149, 6. 194, 7.224
Day of Draft Trades -
Traded pick 34 and 49 for pick 32, 64 & 95 to the Chiefs.
Traded pick 194 and a 2025 6th for a 2025 7th rounder and pick 170 to the Saints.
Draft “Thought Process” -
The idea I came in with was that I needed to: get a DT and an OT in the first 3 rounds and also needed to replace Tee Higgins’ production as much as possible. An OT and DT in the first two rounds was ideal.
With pick 1.18, Taliese Fuaga was still in the board and for me, he was the easy selection.
As pick 32 was coming up, Johnny Newton was still available. He isn’t a true Nose Tackle, but his talent is undeniable and a true value at this point in the draft. I also wanted to add a pick in the draft. I agreed with a Chiefs on a trade, as moving into the mid 2nd to target a WR was a priority for them. They were willing to move a pick and let me trade into the first in order to move up from 49 from 64.
Trade - Bengals give up pick 34, 49 to the Chiefs in exchange for 32, 64 & 95
Pick 32, the Bengals select Johnny Newton to round out the first round. I felt good getting a premier RT and DT early.
I also knew for the rest of the draft, I wanted to focus on offensive players capable of producing explosive plays. This is a focus for the Bengals this season. We needed more speed and YAC potential. I also needed a CB to add to the rotation.
At 2.64, I took Malachi Corley… a YAC merchant with good athleticism. At 3.80, I doubled up and took Devontez Walker, a 9.88 RAS score WR who ran a 4.36 and is a major deep threat. At pick 95, I selected Kris Abrams-Draine. Not the best athlete but a solid contributor with solid mixture of off-man, zone and press coverage who can compete in the CB room right away and potentially be a starter in the future. At pick 115, I added TE Cade Stover. I don’t feel like we desperately need a TE, but that was good value and felt like one of the best players on the board. At pick 149, I added RB Isaac Guerendo. He has 4.33 speed and a 9.98 RAS score. He may have mixed tape, but his athleticism is undeniable and has the highest RAS score of this year’s RBs. He could be a “score from anywhere” type of threat and is a good 3rd back for this team. I wanted an IOL but it was a little early for what was left on the board and felt like I could get one closer to 194. Before 194 was available, Hunter Nourzad was falling and seemingly going unnoticed. I traded up to 170 to take him in exchange for 194 and a 2025 6th round for 7th round swap with the Saints. For pick, 224, I considered adding a depth LB / special teams player, but decided taking a punter to replace or compete with Brad Robbins was a bigger priority.
I will tag the main nfl draft post when it gets posted later.
Potential other scenarios considered:
Byron Murphy at 18 then Patrick Paul at 49 with no Tee Higgins trade.
Tee Higgins trade and then Mims or best OT available at 18, WR Troy Franklin at 34 and Kris Jenkins at 49. Particularly thought about this outcome a lot before the opportunity to draft Newton presented itself.
Last year’s draft results

nfl just finished year two of a mock draft where teams were controlled by users from their respective subreddits. The Draft took place over the weekend (4/20 & 4/21). Teams had 7 minutes per pick for the first two rounds, 4 minutes per pick in rounds 3-7. Last year, we had 3 representatives. This year, it was just me.
Teams take over starting a few weeks ago post free agency and are eligible to make pre-draft trades before the draft, as long as the financials can be explained.
Let me know how I did, I feel pretty good about it this year.
Pre- Draft: bengals stayed pretty quiet in the lead up to the draft. I heard offers on Tee Higgins but none of them were worth more than about a high 3rd round pick worth of value. I was holding out for a trade at least equivalent to a mid to high 2nd round pick’s worth of value, worth about 450 points minimum on the standard Jimmy Johnson / Rich Hill trade chart. People will argue his value, but this felt like a fair value to move on. He’s a very good WR on a highly paid 1-year deal, with a potential near top of market option for year two ($26.16 Million 2nd tag). Last year was not Tee’s best year and he has consistently stayed healthy. He is also now highly paid. I would love to keep Tee for a year or possibly even two and we all love him but a good trade return could likely be better long term than 1 year of solid return on a highly paid contract. He’s a really good WR, but there’s not much excess value left on his deal.
A couple days before the draft, I made one of the biggest trade splashes in the exercise. I accepted the following trade:
Bengals give up -
Tee Higgins, pick 97, 214 & 237
Patriots give up -
Pick 34
Given the Bengals have 10 selections and 4 of them are mid 6ths or later, I was willing to combine a few late picks in a trade package. Given the Bengals only have about 10 open free roster spots on the 53-man roster, I figured making 8-9 selections will work out well. I was planning on adding another pick during the draft, as I eliminated two draft picks and Tee’s roster spot. This adds the need for another draft pick. I figured I could get a really good player that fell from the 1st at 34. The Bengals need difference makers as well at this point, not just more depth.
Draft Selections:
Pick 1.18 - Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
Pick 1.32 - Jer’Zhawn Newton, DT Illinois
Pick 2.64 - Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
Pick 3.80 - Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
Pick 3.95 - Kris Abrams - Draire, CB Missouri
Pick 4.115 - Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
Pick 5.149 - Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
Pick 5.170 - Hunter Nourzad, IOL Penn State
Pick 7. 224 - Ryan Rehkow, P BYU
Picks I came into the draft with -
1.18 , 2.34, 2.49, 3.80, 4. 115, 5. 149, 6. 194, 7.224
Day of Draft Trades -
Traded pick 34 and 49 for pick 32, 64 & 95 to the Chiefs.
Traded pick 194 and a 2025 6th for a 2025 7th rounder and pick 170 to the Saints.
Draft “Thought Process” -
The idea I came in with was that I needed to: get a DT and an OT in the first 3 rounds and also needed to replace Tee Higgins’ production as much as possible. An OT and DT in the first two rounds was ideal.
With pick 1.18, Taliese Fuaga was still in the board and for me, he was the easy selection.
As pick 32 was coming up, Johnny Newton was still available. He isn’t a true Nose Tackle, but his talent is undeniable and a true value at this point in the draft. I also wanted to add a pick in the draft. I agreed with a Chiefs on a trade, as moving into the mid 2nd to target a WR was a priority for them. They were willing to move a pick and let me trade into the first in order to move up from 49 from 64.
Trade - Bengals give up pick 34, 49 to the Chiefs in exchange for 32, 64 & 95
Pick 32, the Bengals select Johnny Newton to round out the first round. I felt good getting a premier RT and DT early.
I also knew for the rest of the draft, I wanted to focus on offensive players capable of producing explosive plays. This is a focus for the Bengals this season. We needed more speed and YAC potential. I also needed a CB to add to the rotation.
At 2.64, I took Malachi Corley… a YAC merchant with good athleticism. At 3.80, I doubled up and took Devontez Walker, a 9.88 RAS score WR who ran a 4.36 and is a major deep threat. At pick 95, I selected Kris Abrams-Draine. Not the best athlete but a solid contributor with solid mixture of off-man, zone and press coverage who can compete in the CB room right away and potentially be a starter in the future. At pick 115, I added TE Cade Stover. I don’t feel like we desperately need a TE, but that was good value and felt like one of the best players on the board. At pick 149, I added RB Isaac Guerendo. He has 4.33 speed and a 9.98 RAS score. He may have mixed tape, but his athleticism is undeniable and has the highest RAS score of this year’s RBs. He could be a “score from anywhere” type of threat and is a good 3rd back for this team. I wanted an IOL but it was a little early for what was left on the board and felt like I could get one closer to 194. Before 194 was available, Hunter Nourzad was falling and seemingly going unnoticed. I traded up to 170 to take him in exchange for 194 and a 2025 6th round for 7th round swap with the Saints. For pick, 224, I considered adding a depth LB / special teams player, but decided taking a punter to replace or compete with Brad Robbins was a bigger priority.
I will tag the main nfl draft post when it gets posted later.
Potential other scenarios considered:
Byron Murphy at 18 then Patrick Paul at 49 with no Tee Higgins trade.
Tee Higgins trade and then Mims or best OT available at 18, WR Troy Franklin at 34 and Kris Jenkins at 49. Particularly thought about this outcome a lot before the opportunity to draft Newton presented itself.
Last year’s draft results

Hello again, recently we conducted a community mock draft on discord with a nearly full compliment of redditors acting as GMs for 29(?) Of the 32 teams.
The exercise started in the first week of March and concluded today at around 6pm est.
Trades
Detroit traded a couple times pre draft, and once towards the end to make a play for a specific player.
The first trade was once again with The Las Vegas Raiders. Detroit secured pick 13 for the price of 29, 61, 205, and a 2025 2nd round pick. A steep price for some, but we had a player targeted and we wanted to secure him.
The second trade was to aquire more capital pure and simple. Detroit traded 74 to the Arizona Cardinals for 90 and 104.
The third trade was 201 and 249 for 185, the Jets were the partner for this trade, but I am not sure if that pick was originally theirs.
Selections
13 - CB Quinyon Mitchell - Toledo
90 - OT Blake Fisher - Notre Dame
104 - SS Cole Bishop - Utah
164 - ED Brennan Jackson - Wash St
185 - WR Ryan Flournoy - SE Missouri St
Full transparency
When we decided to move to 13, we were targeting CB Terrion Arnold, however Chicago and Arizona made a trade, and the Cardinals selected Arnold at 9 just in front of us. We are still excited to land a superb prospect such as Mitchell.
With our second pick we tried to move back up a few spots unsuccessfully, for WR Ja'Lynn Polk. He was selected 85th overall by the Browns. Hind sight is 20/20, we would have selected him at 74 had we not made the pre draft move, but Blake Fisher is another 2nd round talent on our board, and to be able to grab VALUABLE OL depth and Safety Cole Bishop might just be the better play overall.
The trade up yo 185 for Flournoy just seemed like the right move for a physical X WR.
As always, the mock was fun and served as a valuable learning exercise and nothing more. I am not predicting this to happen at all, and look forward to seeing what Brad Holmes actually does starting this Thursday.
Thank you all for reading, and I will answer as many questions as I can in the comments.

Pretty frustrating that three candidates didn't respond with answers to these question (Braun, Chambers, Crouch) Thought this would be helpful for people still thinking about who they might vote for. I still think Chambers is probably the way to go in the primary and then vote Blue in Nov.
https://southbendtribune-in.newsmemory.com/?selDate=20240421&goTo=A01&artid=0&editionStart=South%20Bend%20Tribune
Governor race draws several candidates
Some questions answered
South Bend Tribune USA TODAY NETWORK
The Tribune is partnering with the League of Women Voters of the South Bend Area and the American Democracy Project of Indiana University South Bend to publish candidates’ answers to questions on the issues. The League, with local help from the ADP, operates Vote411.org, a website with information about the candidates and their positions on key issues. The Tribune has agreed to run candidate answers unedited, meaning any spelling, typographical or grammatical errors are the candidates’ own. If there is no photo of a candidate, it’s because the candidate did not provide one. The Tribune is publishing only some of the questions from contested races. Additional questions and answers, including from candidates who have no opponent in the primary, are available at Vote411.org. Six Republican candidates seek the Republican nomination for Indiana governor. Whichever one wins will face lone Democratic candidate Jennifer McCormick, the former state superintendent of education, in the fall. As McCormick is unopposed in the primary, her answers will appear in The Tribune this fall. They already appear at Vote411.org. U.S. Senator Mike Braun, former Indiana Commerce Secretary Brad Chambers and Lt. Gov. Suzanne Crouch are all Republican candidates who have not responded to the Vote411 questionnaire by The Tribune’s publication deadline.
Eric Doden Campaign phone: 260-245-1733Campaign email: [contact@dodenforindiana.com](mailto:contact@dodenforindiana.com)Website: dodenforindiana.com Facebook: facebook.com/DodenForIndiana X (Twitter): @DodenForIndiana Education: BA Hillsdale College, JD Valparaiso University School of Law Curtis Hill
Website: Curtishill.com Jamie Reitenour Campaign email: [admin@jamie4ingov.com](mailto:admin@jamie4ingov.com) Website: jamie4ingov.com Facebook: facebook.com/jamie4ingov X (Twitter): @jamie4ingov Education: Southwest Missouri State University
What is your top priority as governor, and what steps would you take to achieve it?
Eric Doden: As governor, my highest priority is to fight for the rural Hoosier communities politicians have ignored. We can’t be a state where only three or four counties are thriving, we must be a state where all 92 counties are thriving. My Indiana Main Street Initiative gives Indiana an economic development
plan and playbook for the 2.7 million Hoosiers who live in small towns. We will reclaim our historic downtowns, restore community pride, enhance small business formation, and stimulate economic and population growth for smalltown Indiana. I am dedicated to governing by the small town values that career politicians have failed to remember, and I pledge to be a conservative champion for small towns across the state.
Curtis Hill: My number one priority is ending the Office of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. I will use an executive order on day one to end this and restore fairness to all institutions. We must reward excellence and pick the best person for every role. I will not play into identity politics.
Jamie Reitenhour: Overhaul public education by getting back to academic basics, removing DEI and SEL, removing technology from K-5, introducing technology in 6th grade with input from private sector, a renewed focus on trades classes for 7th-8th graders, providing vision for high school, where their path prepares them toward their college, career, or calling, and apprenticeships for all seniors. Elevating teachers’ experience and feedback through school and district climate audits. Improving student outcomes with assessments, monitoring, and early interventions. Grouping students by ability to ensure they achieve their best. Rewarding teachers for meeting improvement plan goals. An education plan and system headed by a career successful teacher.
What changes do you have for changes in Indiana tax law?
Eric Doden: Indiana tax law provides a great opportunity to work with the legislative body and create change Hoosiers can feel in their pocketbooks. The American Dream seems out of reach for many Hoosiers as they struggle to pay for everyday expenses and high property taxes. I plan to work closely with the legislature to build a statewide plan that brings down these high tax rates and caps property taxes for seniors. I support a tiered approach to property taxes that allows Hoosiers who are over 65 to receive relief and stay in their homes by capping the amount their property taxes can increase each year. As governor, I will not leave Hoosiers with promises that can’t be kept, but commit instead to working with the General Assembly to lower taxes.
Curtis Hill: We must return the gas tax to pre 2018 levels. Big government Republicans pushed this through and it hurts the average Hoosier. Reducing this tax would also help farmers who have to operate heavy machinery on a regular basis. This is a sensible and achievable goal, not a gimmick.
Jamie Reitenhour: I support reduction of wasteful and excessive spending to reduce taxes. 1) Eliminate property tax for Indiana homesteads, to be worked toward in phases: First, eliminating property tax for senior citizens’ homesteads; their fixed incomes can’t keep up with assessment increases. Second, homestead assessed values that are fixed upon purchase. I’ll coordinate with all 92 counties (and their taxing units) about their base taxes, referendum taxes, budget efficiency, and how their spending has changed with rapid increases over recent years. 2) In the meantime, I will consider specified holidays on consumption taxes, like gas tax and sales tax, to offer immediate price relief to Hoosier families. 3) Income tax reduction, as goals are met.
How will you improve the management of Medicaid and Medicare funding to ensure adequate health care coverage for these recipients?
Eric Doden: First, we need to avoid errors like the billion-dollar budget projection deficit revealed last legislative session. That starts with leadership in the governor’s office and in our state agencies. I’m the only candidate in this race on the record saying each agency head will be required to reapply for their job. For Indiana’s Medicaid and Medicare programs specifically, management of these programs is a vital part of the state’s overall budget along with education, transportation, infrastructure, and public safety. That means working with the General Assembly to live within our means and bring these programs out of their projected deficits, making sure able-bodied people are working, and preserving access for the most vulnerable Hoosiers.
Curtis Hill: I will always protect seniors and low-income Hoosiers. Funding healthcare is important, including attracting qualified medical professionals to Indiana to provide world class care. My economic plan addresses this through targeted tax breaks.
Jamie Reitenhour: Indiana needs able bodies to work and the private sector and churches to step in to meet more of the needs that the government is meeting poorly. We need mentoring programs in the private sector and job fairs across the State to encourage the already- established Hoosier way, we work hard for what we have… in the meantime, each program will have to be evaluated on the basis of its Constitutionality, the need of Hoosiers, and the Hoosier majority view of smaller government and less taxes.
Do you support or oppose current Indiana laws on abortion?
Eric Doden: As a husband, father, and faithful Christian, I am 100% prolife. For me, being pro-life is a human rights issue: it means being pro-mother, pro-child, and pro-family. In the office of governor, I will be a champion for life by supporting legislation and policies that protect unborn children and mothers. Our Zero-Cost Adoption Plan will lead the way in ensuring mothers who choose life and families who choose adoptions receive the support they need to provide safe and loving homes for Hoosier children. Together, we can build a culture of life in Indiana by protecting the vulnerable and making Indiana one of the first states in the nation to provide zero-cost adoption.
Curtis Hill: I support the current law but believe it needs to be properly enforced. We must demand Terminated Pregnancy Reports (TPRs) from the Indiana Department of Health so that only those with truly extraordinary circumstances are using these exceptions. I believe in a culture of life and will fight for it.
Jamie Reitenhour: Abortion laws are laws that have been written based on the outcry of the public in the State of Indiana. I do not believe the laws as they are written were 1) written well, and 2) reflected the Hoosier pro-life voice that has taken to the polls for over a decade and continues to show a consistent majority in the voter base. I will support laws that uphold a culture of life at all stages.
Do you support or oppose the sending of Indiana National Guard troops to the Texas/Mexico border?
Eric Doden: We must hold the line at home against Washington’s immigration crisis. I boldly support the sending of Indiana National Guard troops to the border, along with an increase in border protections and the heavy persecution of drug dealers. Unlike some D.C. politicians, I refuse to cave under liberal pressure and will lead where D.C. has failed to keep drugs and violence out of Indiana. I pledge to give border states the tools they need to keep illegal immigrants out of the United States and stop the flow of drugs and illegal immigrants over our border. Your safety will always come first, and my bold vision for Indiana will protect our borders and restore our communities.
Curtis Hill: I support sending National Guard troops to the border. I publicly called on Governor Holcomb to do just that and days later he did. I will stand up against the crime and drugs coming over our border. I will always put Hoosiers first.
Jamie Reitenhour: I believe that the recent federal policy and the border crisis that it has created are dangerous and offensive to citizens and legal migrants. The Indiana National Guard is an integral part of not just keeping our state ready, but assisting in a ready state within our nation and around the world. I cannot make any specific comment as to what I would do with the National Guard until I hear the debrief on Indiana’s threat level, but in general, I support the lawful security of our state and nation