F2 on Anaesthetics. I like it a lot. Really fascinated by the physiology and pharmacology and the science behind anaesthesia. But I also tend to panic in acute situations where you have only seconds and I am not the best at procedures but can improve with practice. I have seen quite a few nerve blocks and spinals and they look very daunting to perform especially spinals as there was one case where the consultant was really struggling with and I was panicking internally that if I choose anaesthetics I will be panicking like this internally but good at hiding it. Improving on airway skills and cannulas but not perfect. Still haven’t got the hang of it fully as for example recently the surgeon berated me for not taking the initiative to position the patient in the lithotomy position (I was relying on the anaesthetist as I am still so scared of everything and doing something that causes harm although I have been taking initiative in things that I have taken note of such as seeing patients before the lists, drawing up drugs and IV access and asking the anaesthetist if they want to give more ephedrine or metaraminol or increase O2 etc based on what I see on the monitor) so there is a lot more that goes on in anaesthetics which I am expected to absorb and people don’t explicitly tell me because to them these seem very obvious and I may or may not pick up on these little things because I am such a novice. Is this a sign anaesthetics is not for me or is it too early to say as I have only been on anaesthetics for a month and the steep learning curve is making me feel a certain way? Could I be feeling panicky just because I haven’t been exposed to such stuff enough?
Have also done a radiology taster which I really liked and fit with my personality more (I get a lot of satisfaction from puzzle solving and diagnosis which I think I will miss on anaesthetics) although I am more fascinated with physiology and pharmacology than anatomy
Pathology taster coming next which I think I will like too
Before coming on to anaesthesics I was sure I wanted to do a medical/physicianly specialty but being on anaesthetics is really eye opening as the culture is so nice and everyone loves to teach which is the opposite of medicine (medical consultants all look miserable at my place and always grumpy and hate being called for advice and don’t like to teach) so anaesthetics is definitely above medicine for me but now also confused with radiology (very lovely people too and not as scary as they sound on the phone!) and pathology as they also look like specialties I will be happy in and the consultants and trainees seem really happy too

I have a cardiac stress test coming up at the hospital on Saturday, May 11 - for 2pm - - what ND products can/should i take each day starting right now so that i can pass the test with flying colors, increased endurance, minimal fatigue, maximum lung capacity etc etc and make the test technologists jaw drop? - - - - - - """ A technologist will explain the test to you, take a brief medical history, and answer any questions you may have. Your blood pressure, heart rate, and electrocardiogram (ECG) will be monitored before, during, and after the test. You will be asked to remove all upper body clothing, and to put on a gown with the opening to the front. Adhesive electrodes will be put onto your chest to capture an ECG. The sites where the electrodes are placed will be cleaned with alcohol and shaved if necessary. A mild abrasion may also be used to ensure a good quality ECG recording. Your resting blood pressure, heart rate, and ECG will be recorded. You will be asked to walk on a treadmill. The walk starts off slowly, then the speed and incline increases at set times. It is very important that you walk as long as possible because the test is effort-dependent. You will be monitored throughout the test. If a problem occurs, the technologist will stop the test right away. It is very important for you to tell the technologist if you experience any symptoms, such as chest pain, dizziness, unusual shortness of breath, or extreme fatigue. """ - - - - - - - - - i currently have bottles of the following ND products in my house: tongkat ali 10% - - rhodiola crenulata - - curowhite - - green tea with piperine - - cyanidin 3g - - isoliquiritigenin - - polygala teniufolia - - cistanche tubulosa - - berberine phytosome - - siberian eletheuro - - nigella sativa 10% - - microzinc - - magtein - - black hoof - - sabroxy - - caffeine + l-theanine - - alpha gpc - - n acetyl l-tyrosine - - agmatine sulfate - - primavie shilajit - - cognizin - - 4dma 78 - - cognance - - tiger milk - - optinad - - meriva curcumin - - saffron 7.5% - - acetyl l carnitine - - optim ala - - - - - - i then have some non-ND items like Thiamax, original russian 10mg noopept, aniracetam 750mg, fl-adrafinil 150mg, mucuna pruriens, vit c 500mg, icelandic kelp, udo's 3 6 9 oil, manuka honey 31 umf, st johns wort, ephedrine hcl 8mg, NAC, boron, diazepam 10mg, aspirin, tylenol, advil - - - - mind you i do NOT take all of these things daily as I obviously do not want to overload my liver or lose my sanity - - - - - sorry for the long post

We went to a nice brewery first had some beers and some food. Listened to live music. Here are some things I found out about her.
She’s a recovering meth addict. She’s been in rehab 22 times. She once tried to OD suicide by taking all her pills She’s been diagnosed with schizophrenia. She’s been in the loony bin a few times. 18 months total. (But they let her out) She’s followed by drones She has 3 kids by 3 different dads but actually they were all the same person in different disguises. He’s the guy that follows her with drones. She’s on multiple meds including ephedrines , mood altering and sleep meds She vapes.
Then we went to a Mexican place and had a couple strawberry daiquiris.
I found out these things:
She’s got fake boobs. (38DD) She’s planning on getting them enhanced/tightened. She lives with a 66 year old guy for free who makes $6500/month but it’s platonic. She also has grandkids but her kids don’t let her visit. We went out in her car for a break about then. She saw a couple drones; hid the car behind some trees. I saw a couple planes coming in with landing lights on. Her favorite song is “Wet Ass P*ssy” by Cardi B We listened to it. The last guy she went out with asked her to go to a motel by this point. We went back in for another daiquiri.
I liked her a lot but told her that I don’t do one night stands. I got her phone # and hugged her goodbye when we were done.
I think I’m ready for a second date. What do you think? I was thinking about dancing or a concert or a play maybe. What do you think?

TRIGGER WARNING : Graphic testimony about the autopsy & toxicology reports. Some people may be sensitive to this
Trial Day 5. Week 2
Jackson family did not attend the court.
Toxicologist Dan Anderson Testimony
Jackson direct
Jackson attorney Koskoff is doing the direct examination. Anderson starts testifying about his experience, credentials
Jurors are shown the pictures of three prescription pill bottles found in MJ's bedroom:

• Lorazepam
• Diazepam
• Flomax.
• They are also shown a photo of four bottles of 20ml of Propofol

Anderson is then asked about a chart which shows the medications, how many doses were issued and how many remained at the time of Michael's death. Another series of charts show the Propofol and other medications that were found in the home
Most of the drugs, he testified, were prescribed by Murray
Toxicologist Anderson tells jury it's highly unusual to find injectable lorazepam and propofol in a home setting.
Anderson said investigators found injectable lorazepam at MJ's home, a form of the drug "typically found in a hospital setting."

Jackson lawyer Koskoff: "After you heard from investigators that propofol was found in the home, what did you think?"
Anderson: "Propofol collected as evidence, it's highly unusual. It raises a red flag in my eyes as a toxicologist...It's very problematic if it's found outside the hospital setting."

The discovery of the propofol bottles outside a medical setting also was "highly unusual" and "kind of raises a red flag", Anderson said
Anderson also explains where coroner's staff take samples from within a body, and also how certain drugs are metabolized. The toxicologist then explains to jurors what tests he ordered on Michael Jackson's body
Anderson said blood samples were taken from every corner of Jackson's body:

"his heart, femoral artery, liver and behind his eyes"

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Dan Anderson : "This particular case, we were looking for everything and anything"

Anderson testified that tests of Jackson's blood, urine and internal organs showed traces of:

• the anesthetic propofol
• the anti-anxiety drugs Valium and lorazepam
• the short-term anesthetic midazolam
• lidocaine (a numbing cream that paramedics sometimes use in resuscitation efforts)

Toxicology tests detected six drugs in Jackson's system other than propofol (according to Anderson):

• Lidocaine
• Diazepam
• Nordiazepam (a metabolite of Valium)
• Lorazepam (Ativan)
• Midazolam (Versed)
• Ephedrine

Anderson walks jurors through a chart he prepared of the drugs found in Jackson's system. Propofol and lidocaine found everywhere. By everywhere, Anderson means blood taken from the heart, femoral artery, liver, urine and in fluid behind eye
Anderson said propofol and other drugs were found during toxicology tests, noting that propofol was of most concern.

Anderson: "It raises a red flag in my eyes...It's very problematic to find it outside the hospital setting"

After morning break, toxicologist Anderson tells jury level of propofol in MJ's body is consistent with general surgery. Anderson said that the amount of propofol found in his system was what you'd expect in a patient who had just undergone major surgery

Anderson: "Michael Jackson's body was riddled with the powerful anesthetic propofol when he died. The level was "consistent with major surgery anesthesia," said Anderson, noting that a level of 3.2 milligrams per milliliter of blood was found in Jackson's body

Jackson lawyer Koskoff asks Anderson about other cases LA coroner has handled where propofol was involved. Anderson tells jury about preparing a chart of all LA County deaths where propofol was found, after Michael's death. Coroner's office continued to update the chart after Jackson's death, Anderson tells the jury. It now has 31 cases. The first LA County death case where propofol was found dates back to 1999, Anderson says. It's updated as of a couple weeks ago. To put the 31 propofol cases in context, Anderson says coroner handles about 8,000 deaths a year. Roughly 5,000 involve toxicology screens.
Koskoff also asked Anderson about Demerol. Toxicologist says none was found in Jackson' s system. Anderson told jury Demerol typically dissipates from a person's system with 12-16 hours.
Summary of Negative Toxicological Findings:

• No Alcohol, Barbiturates, Demerol, Zoloft, Xanax, Cocaine, Marijuana, Amphetamine, Codeine

Direct questioning of Anderson ends with him telling jury he didn't find any recreational drugs in Jackson's system
AEG Cross
Cahan is the attorney handling cross-examination for AEG.
Anderson remembers when he heard Michael Jackson had died. It was a Thursday, his day off, and his son told him MJ had died.
He tells the jury he suggested tests that were conducted. Anderson tells that he observed part of the autopsy the day after the death.
Much of Anderson's cross examination is him explaining charts he prepared in greater detail.
Cahan notes that one chart shows 10 medications, with three doctors issuing them: Conrad Murray, Allan Metzger and Arnold Klein. She notes that the doctors were all prescribing certain medications that were supposed to be taken at bedtime. She asks if this is important. Anderson says his staff doesn't take into account directions for taking meds, but how they're found in toxicology screens.

Cahan: "Would you agree with me there are three different physicians prescribing medication for Mr. Jackson to take at bedtime (in the months before his death)?"
Anderson : "I would agree"

Anderson also explains that there were two visits to Jackson's home where medications were collected. On July 9th, a Jackson family member brought in additional medications they had found and thought investigators should have.
Anderson testifies by mid-July he knew the amount of propofol found in Jackson's body was cause of death
Cahan asked Anderson about signing his portion of the toxicology test on July 15th. She asked if the level of Propofal was fatal. Anderson responded with:

"yes...the level was fatal"

Anderson testifies that he found out propofol had been collected from Jackson's home after he found it in drug screens.
Jackson Redirect
Anderson was also asked about 31 death cases in LA where propofol was found. He makes clear, propofol was not cause of death in all those cases. Jackson's lawyer Koskoff highlighted seven cases where propofol was a cause of death; five cases were in residences. Six of the seven cases where a propofol overdose was a cause of death were deemed suicides, toxicologist Anderson testified. According to Anderson, Jackson's case was the only one involving someone outside the medical field who overdosed on propofol in a home.
Anderson testified that Michael Jackson is the only person in Los Angeles County not in the medical field to die of propofol intoxication in their home in the last 14 years. The other six people who died at their homes were doctors or nurses who had access to the tightly controlled anesthetic
Christopher Rogers is the deputy medical examiner who performed MJ's autopsy. He walks through his credentials and experience.
Rogers said he learned about MJ's death while at a conference:

"Somebody passed me a note that Michael Jackson had died", Rogers said.

Rogers, who determined that Jackson's death was a homicide, told the jurors he gave added consideration to detail when determining the cause and manner of the MJ's death because of his stature

Rogers: "Because Michael Jackson was such a prominent individual, there was likely to be a great deal of press attention as well as from members of the public"

A black-and-white photo taken of Jackson's body before autopsy is shown to the jury. It's left on the screen for less than a minute. Rogers said the photo accurately depicted Michael's condition at the time
Rogers testified that the 5-foot, 9-inch MJ weighed 136 pounds at the time of his death and that X-rays showed he suffered from arthritis in his lower spine and fingers
Rogers walks jury through a diagram of puncture wounds and scars on Jackson's body. Punctures consistent w/ lifesaving efforts, he says. The origin of some of the scars couldn't be determined.
Rogers also detailed how Jackson had his lips tattooed pink, his eyebrows and scalp inked with black. There were 3/4-inch scars behind both ears, suggesting he had at least one face lift, according to Rogers
Rogers also testifies about MJ's Vitiligo. Rogers testified that MJ suffered from Vitiligo a disease more common in African Americans, in which some areas of the skin are light and others are dark

"It can be very disfiguring," Rogers said

Rogers said Jackson's post-mortem exam revealed no heart disease or Lupus, the autoimmune disease that some, Dr. Arnold Klein, have attributed to Michael
Rogers said the MJ was in good health before his untimely 2009 death at the hands of Dr. Conrad Murray

"If not for his death by propofol, Jackson's health appeared good enough for him to live a normal lifespan", Rogers testified.
"There was no indication from the autopsy that there was anything anatomically wrong with him that would lead to premature death," Rogers said

Koskoff asks Rogers about condition of MJ's body. Koskoff asked whether Jackson's body had any characteristics of a street drug addict. (Disease, track marks, liver damage.) Rogers says "No". Rogers also testifies about the condition of Jackson's organs. All were in good shape, other than some lung issues.
Rogers explained why he concluded that Jackson died from a propofol overdose. Koskoff asked Rogers whether his conclusions regarding Jackson's death have changed, "No" he responded.

Koskoff: "Would a fit, competent doctor administer propofol for insomnia?"
Rogers: "I would not expect that, no"

Rogers also shot down suggestions that Jackson self-administered his lethal dose of propofol, a cornerstone theory of Murray's defense.

"One possibility that we considered is that he might have given an overdose of propofol to himself. However based on the history that was available, I don't believe that that happened", Rogers said

Partial Court Transcript

So I just recently got interested in high stim pres, and so far my journey has yielded nothing stimulating.
I'm not a fan of anything yohimbine related, but even when I do take it I just feel weird, not energized. So I first bought juiced after seeing it pop up in here, and took a half scoop to start with just a little perk up effect like an energy drink would do after not having caffeine for a bit. All the full scoops I've taken have done nothing as far as amping me up, mainly just beta alanine tingles, and I use it basically only on Saturdays
I learned about ruesco so I could buy samples instead of dropping $50 on a guess, and ordered pandamic, crack purple and wild fire. The pandamic, which I assumed would be the lesser hitting one, actually did give me a dialed in focus feeling and make me kinda vibe to music more, but as far as any extra energy, not much.
The crack I made the comparison to it being soda rock, because I felt nothin of note.
And my biggest hope being wild fire, after all the other experiences I just went full scoop and again, basically nothing perceptible
For reference, I'm not officially diagnosed but I have a very large amount of symptoms indicating adhd, and my experience with Methamphetamine is that it also never made me feel energized, quite the opposite actually I'd just lay around except I couldn't sleep for 48-72hrs any time I've tried it.
Do you think some people are just not wired normal and no stimulant is going to bring about the typical effect? I feel like I get more hyped to workout from just taking a pump product with coffee or just putting citrulline and creatine in my coffee, with some beet root extract for a bit of a cardio/endurance boost. I mean I guess that makes life cheaper, but it sure would be nice to get amped up.
I remember taking NOXplode like 18 years ago and being amped as fuck off of it like I sniffed Adderall. This was before another 17 years of hard drug addiction though so maybe I've just fried my dopamine and adrenal system.
Anybody else not able to get anything stim, much less a junkie effect from high stim pres? Or is my body just retarded lol. The only thing that gave me a solid pick me up recently was ephedrine at 50mgs, but that was the first time only and even not taking it regularly it hasn't done a whole lot besides make breathing easier during squats.

Step 1: Setup
You will need muriatic acid, sodium hydroxide, ephedrine, lithium, phosphorus, pseudoephedrine and Hydrogen Chloride. The Equipment you need is a glass eye dropper, 3 glass bottles with lids with about 3 oz, a measuring cup about 5 oz, a cooking tray, a freezer, a mixing tool and clean rubber gloves.
Step 2: Cooking
You will need to first put in 2 oz of muriatic acid in one of the cups using the eye dropper, then mix with some lithium and mix it with the mixing tool of your choosing. After waiting 1 hour put the phosphorus in a measuring cup to make sure its 4 oz and put in the 2 other cups, then put some sodium hydroxide and Hydrogen Chloride in the 2nd cup 0.4 oz each, and 0.7 oz of ephedrine in the 3rd cup. You then put all the liquids in the food tray and mix with pseudoephedrine. Put it in the freezer for 3 hours and you get the meth
Step 3: Selling
Its gangster law that the back of Walmarts or Lidl's are the best place to sell it, it's a secret not even the DEA or FBI knows so no one will even know. Also kill all your competitors with ricin, you can buy it on Ebay for like 3 bucks.

I saw the previous post and I don’t think people have a nuanced opinion.
Sushrutha is not the idiot there, the people treating it as a replacement for modern medicine and religious scripture are.
Sushrutha Samhita is a legit medical treatise with many novel and working concepts still in use.
It was written as a secular academic work limited by the technology of the day. It wasn’t written as a part of ‘Indian culture’.
We don’t say that Hippocrates’ work was meant to worship Greek gods or is a part of ‘Greek culture.’
It’s just an outdated piece of academic work.
Sushrutha and Hippocrates would’ve loved modern medicine. They invented new protocols and treatments themselves and would be appaled to see people using 3000 year old technology.
Why would the guy who told us surgical tools should be made of silver not iron be opposed to stainless steel? Lmao
Now onto urine.
Urine contains urea which is alkaline and breaks down into ammonium hydoxide which is even more alkaline and slightly toxic (at those concentrations).
So it’s not surprising for it to cure indigestion, acidity and parasitic worms. Much like milk of magnesia.
It also contains salts so maybe they used it as shitty ORS, who knows.
Different aninals eat different things (no shit) and many different chemicals or their metabolites end up in a high concentration in their urine. That’s why we do urine tests (not taste).
It’s plausible these products are pharmacologically active and actually treat something.
For example: the fungus Amanita Muscatia contains muscarine but it’s toxic.
Reigndeer digestion turns it into muscaric acid and drinking their urine will give you less side effects than the mushrooms. That’s what Scandanaviand did.
Europeans also consumed urine for other reasons. The Romans used it as mouthwash and it worked because it contains ammonium hydroxide, we still alkaline toothpastes.
People in the past weren’t stupid, just limited by technology.
All that being said.
We don’t need to do all that anymore and have modern treatments for all these.
Being pseudoscientific doesn’t depend on if something works or not.
Us not knowing why something works and the lack of quantification (systematic dosage in this case) is what makes it pseudoscience.
Ayurveda uses Humour theory, that’s what makes it pseudoscience.
I’d love for us to research the active ingredients in Ayurvedic medicines so they can be understood and standardised scientifically.
We did this with opium/morphine, nightshade (datura)/atropine, cinchona/quinine, ephedrine/ephedra etc.
Why not everything claimed by Ayurveda?
Now western countries are doing this with Cannabis and I’m afraid they’ll figure it out before.
Then chadis will claim we did it 2000 years ago. No we didn’t, not by modern standards.
Ironically it’s them who hold up research and funding.

I'm reading everyone's post here and all the comments and love seeing the results and also sympathize with those who are going through the side effects. I would like to share my experience with my brothers and sisters on this journey here about the past 2 weeks as well.
Im 29M, 5'8" started at 180 and now I'm 173. Before this, I used to do cycles of EC Stack (for those who dont know, its ephedrine and caffeine which helps suppress appetite, and pretty well known) for 2 years. When Hims/Her came out with this formula, I also wanted to give it a try.
For the first 3 days, I definitely felt the brain fog. I took the Nalt/Top/Vit and Bupropin pills in the morning as soon as I woke up. I recall being in meetings and slurring my words and tried my best to pass off to have someone else do the talking before I say something very stupid. I tried to take short naps in between as I was so dead tired. But I was also doing this on an empty stomach. After this, I started to just have some small food (scrambled eggs and such) with the morning pills and it has helped immensely. Now, I make sure to have at least something that has CALORIES with any of the pills. This can be actual food or for me, I have a protein shake.
For the rest of week 1 and also week 2, I have not felt much side effects. With the addition of the half pill in the evening, I make sure to eat that with my dinner along with the metformin. You guys probably already know this as it says take it with a meal, but I recommend you take it with your HEAVIEST meal of the day.
Now one more additional thing that I did, and I don't necessary recommend this, is that I added back in the caffeine pills that I was taking when I was on the EC stack. Each pill is 200 mg and I usually take this in the morning around half an hour after I take the morning combo pills. It has helped me stayed focus and I have not had any brain fog at all since I started taking it again. I am NOT advocating for people to take caffeine pills, but for those who love coffee, maybe this can help as well if you haven't been drinking it.
In short, for those of you guys on Med Kit 1:

• Take each dosage with something that has calories
• Take the metformin with your heaviest meal
• (My own experience) The addition of caffeinated beverage might help with some of the side effects

Quick summary
So, as seller of bodybuilding supplements, I have a knack of reviewing these legal steroids/peds.
CrazyBulk's Clenbutrol, draws people in by the hype of it being a safe, legal alternative to Clenbuterol. I've been on the hunt for something to kick my fat loss into overdrive myself, without making me feel like I'm on the verge of a heart attack, lol !
With its main sell being Bitter Orange Extract (synephrine) for that metabolic boost and a mix of other ingredients like Guarana for energy, it sounds like a good choice overall. Especially since it's supposed to play nice with other supplements for those custom cutting stacks (Testo-Max, Winsol etc.). All in all, decent option but somewhat overpriced.
However, let's be real for a minute. While it won't turn you into a jittery mess (stimulants side effects) (thank goodness for small mercies), I can't say it can compete with more hardcore fat burners like Steel 3 epi andro!
If you're new to fat burners or super sensitive to stimulants, then yeah, Clenbutrol might seem like a nudge in the right direction. But for those of us who've been around the block with supplements, it felt a bit like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
The synephrine kick? Just good enough but don't expect miracles.
And as for breaking through plateaus, it can help a bit but for some people, I reckon shaking up your routine would do more than this.
It's not that Clenbutrol is bad per se, it's just that for the price tag, I was expecting something... more. I reckon it would stack very well with HyperGH 14x, though !! (My favorite legal HGH for cutting) and complementing it well with stimulants effects for energy & motivation for weight loss.
For folks looking for a mild boost without the legal worries or harsh side effects of more Hardcore supplements like STEEL supplements 3 epi andro etc.,, CrazyBulk's Clenbutrol might be worth a shot. But if you're expecting dramatic results or something to match the might of real Clenbuterol, you might want to keep your expectations in check or look into other alternatives.

Who Clenbutrol is best for ?

• People seeking a synephrine fat burner:
  • Reasoning: If you're on the lookout for something with synephrine because you've read about its fat-burning prowess, Clenbutrol's got you covered. It's not your everyday ingredient and could give you that metabolic edge.
  • Alternative: For a synephrine kick without the Clenbutrol price tag, consider a standalone synephrine supplement or other fat burners that list synephrine high on their ingredient list.
• People seeking customized stacks:
  • Reasoning: If you're the type who likes to mix and match supplements to tailor your own bodybuilding or weight loss regime, Clenbutrol is a flexible option that plays well with other CrazyBulk products for personalized stacks. Checkout the cutting stacks offered on CrazyBulk's website.
  • Alternative: Dive into the world of bodybuilding forums or subreddits to get insights on DIY stacking with separate supplements for energy, fat burning, and muscle gains. It might require more research but can be tailored even more to your needs.
• Beginners to fat burners seeking a safer start:
  • Reasoning: If you're nervous about jumping into the deep end with hardcore supplements, Clenbutrol's more natural lineup offers a gentler introduction to fat burners.
  • Alternative: Start with natural metabolism boosters like green tea extract or caffeine supplements. They're widely regarded as safe and can be a good way to ease into the world of fat burning.
• Those sensitive to harsh stimulants:
  • Reasoning: Given its caffeine content from Guarana is significant but not overwhelming, Clenbutrol might suit those who want a boost without the jitters.
  • Alternative: Seek out caffeine-free fat burners or those that use L-Theanine to counterbalance caffeine's edgier side effects for a smoother energy lift.
• Fitness enthusiasts in a plateau:
  • Reasoning: If you're stuck in a rut with your current routine and diet, Clenbutrol might offer the metabolic nudge to get past that stubborn plateau.
  • Alternative: Switching up your workout routine or incorporating interval training can also shock your body into progress. Supplement-wise, exploring thermogenics or a different fat burner with a fresh ingredient profile might reignite your results.
• Those wary of legal issues with supplements:
  • Reasoning: Clenbutrol offers peace of mind for those concerned about the legality of their supplements, being a legal alternative to Clenbuterol.
  • Alternative: Stick to supplements that are clearly marketed as legal and compliant with local regulations, focusing on those with transparent ingredient lists and strong reputations.

Introduction to Clenbutrol
This so-called miracle worker claims to be your ticket to a chiseled body without the scary side effects of its steroid counterpart, Clenbuterol. But let's get real here – can a supplement truly offer steroid-like benefits without the drawbacks? I embarked on this journey with a healthy dose of skepticism, and here's the unfiltered scoop on Clenbutrol from someone who's navigated these waters.

What is Clenbutrol?

Clenbutrol claims to be the gym buddy you never knew you needed, promising to torch fat, boost your metabolism, and keep your muscle gains safe from the fat-loss tsunami. All this, and it's supposedly as natural as your morning green smoothie.
Produced by CrazyBulk, Clenbutrol positions itself as a legal steroid, but without the scary stuff. Now, the unique selling point (USP) here is that Clenbutrol isn't flying solo; it's part of a band, ready to be stacked with other CrazyBulk 'legal steroids' for maximum shredding. We're talking about a team-up with Winsol, Anvarol, and Trenorol for the cutting phase.
But here's the kicker: it's not just a standalone product. One of Clenbutrol's unique selling points is that it can be stacked with other CrazyBulk "legal steroids" for enhanced cutting cycles. They suggest stacking it with Anvarol (an alternative to Anavar), Winsol (a Winstrol alternative), and Trenorol (mimicking Trenbolone) for what they claim to be ultimate cutting.
This sounds all well and good, but if you're a skeptic like me, you're probably wondering whether stacking these supplements actually brings the results they promise, or if it's just a way to get you to buy more products.
Honestly, while the idea of a natural supplement that can give you a steroid-like effect without the downsides is appealing, I've found myself questioning the real-world efficacy. Can a bunch of natural ingredients really replicate the effects of powerful steroids? And more importantly, can they do so in a way that's worth the cost, both in terms of money and effort?
Let's be real: the fitness supplement industry is notorious for overpromising and underdelivering. And while the concept of safely stacking supplements for better results isn't new, the effectiveness of such strategies is often exaggerated.
If you're diving into Clenbutrol and considering stacking it for cutting, I'd urge you to temper your expectations. Supplements can certainly aid your fitness journey, but there's no magic pill (or stack of pills) that can replace hard work, proper diet, and a well-rounded exercise routine.

Ingredients

Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)

With a serving of 63 mg, providing 315% of the Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA), Vitamin B3 plays a crucial role in metabolism and energy production, potentially aiding in the body's ability to burn fat. It supports the conversion of food into usable energy, making it a key ingredient for those looking to optimize fat burning processes.

Garcinia Cambogia (50% Hydroxycitric Acid)

At 450 mg per serving, Garcinia Cambogia is rich in Hydroxycitric Acid (HCA), which is thought to block the enzyme involved in fat storage. HCA may also increase serotonin levels, potentially reducing appetite and food intake, aiding in weight management efforts without a specific RDA percentage.

Bitter Orange Extract (6% Synepherine)

Another 450 mg serving, this time of Bitter Orange Extract, contains Synepherine, a compound believed to boost metabolism and increase fat burning. Its mechanism is similar to that of ephedrine, though purportedly with fewer side effects, making it a significant addition for those targeting fat loss.

Guarana Extract (22% Caffeine)

Guarana Extract comes in at 342 mg per serving and is a potent source of caffeine (about 75 mg), known for its ability to enhance fat oxidation and increase metabolic rate. The energy-boosting effects of caffeine can also improve exercise performance, further supporting weight loss efforts.

My thorough evaluation of Clenbutrol as a fat burner

Appetite Suppression: 3/5

If you're like me and your snack cravings hit you like a freight train at midnight, you might find Clenbutrol kinda helpful but not a game-changer. The Garcinia Cambogia does seem to take the edge off the hunger, but don't expect it to be a silver bullet. You'll probably still eyeball that last slice of pizza; it just might be a tad easier to say no.

Metabolism Boost: 4/5

Alright, here's where things start heating up. With ingredients like Bitter Orange Extract and a decent dose of Vitamin B3, I did feel like my metabolism got a bit of a kickstart. It's not like I turned into a calorie-burning furnace overnight, but there was a noticeable uptick in how quickly I felt I was digesting meals and bouncing back from cheat days.

Energy Enhancement: 4/5

Now, for the part I was actually impressed with: the energy kick. Thanks to the Guarana Extract (yep, the stuff that's in energy drinks), I found myself with a pretty solid boost during my workouts. It wasn't jittery or anything, just a good, steady stream of "Let's do this!" kind of vibe. Perfect for those mornings when getting out of bed feels like climbing Everest.

Stimulant-like Effects: 4/5

So, if you're in the market for something to light a fire under you without sending you to jitter city, Clenbutrol's got your back. The Guarana Extract packs a punch similar to your morning coffee, minus the shakes and crash. It's like having that extra gear when you need it, keeping me focused and on the ball without feeling like my heart's about to beat out of my chest.

Fat Burning: 3/5

Let's get real, the fat burning aspect isn't like waving a magic wand over your muffin top and watching it disappear. The combo of Garcinia Cambogia and Bitter Orange Extract seems to help, especially with consistent exercise and dieting, but don't expect miracles. It's more of a gentle nudge in the right direction rather than a full-on shove.

Safety Profile: 3/5

Now, diving into the safety aspect, Clenbutrol feels like it's on the safer side of the spectrum, especially when you stack it against the wild west of supplements out there. However, with any product rocking stimulants like Guarana and Bitter Orange Extract, it's wise to tread carefully and listen to your body. If you've got a sensitive system or pre-existing health conditions, I'd say proceed with caution and maybe have a chat with your doc first.

User Reviews: 3/5

Scouring the internet for real talk on Clenbutrol was like going on a blind date – you never quite know what you’re gonna get. Some users were all in, singing praises, while others were left wondering what the fuss was about. It’s a mixed bag – some find it a boost to their routine, while others shrug it off as just another bottle on the shelf.

Price ($64.99): 2/5

Dropping nearly 65 bucks on this bottle felt like a gamble. Sure, if it turned me into Thor, I’d say it’s worth every penny. But for results that felt more like a gentle nudge rather than a superhero transformation, it’s a steep ask. It’s in the "splurge" category for sure, especially if you’re looking to make it a staple in your routine.

Real Users' Experiences and Reviews

If you've been eyeing Clenbutrol, thinking it's the golden ticket to your dream body, hold up. I've scoured forums, reviews, and testimonials, and let me tell you, it's a mixed bag. Some users swear by it, claiming it's the secret sauce to their fitness regimen, while others feel it's more of a placebo than a powerhouse.
A friend of mine, let's call him Dave, jumped on the Clenbutrol bandwagon with hopes high enough to reach Mount Everest. A month in, and the most significant thing he lost was his patience (and maybe a bit of cash). On the flip side, another gym buddy, Sarah, noticed some improvements in her stamina and a slight decrease in her snack cravings, but nothing to write home about.
Here's the deal: while some users report feeling more energized and noticing a slight uptick in their weight loss, the consensus isn't exactly glowing. The benefits seem to vary wildly from person to person, with some questioning if it's the supplement or their intensified gym routine that's making the difference. Satisfaction? It's as varied as a box of chocolates; you never know what you're gonna get.
In essence, diving into Clenbutrol expecting life-changing results might set you up for disappointment. It's not the miracle worker it's hyped up to be, and the real MVPs of any transformation story seem to be good ol' diet and exercise. Shocking, I know.

How to Use Clenbutrol for Best Results

Alright, let's say you've decided to give Clenbutrol a shot, skepticism and all. Here's the skinny on making the most out of it: stick to the recommended dosage like glue. The instructions suggest taking three capsules about 45 minutes before your workout. Timing is key here – too close to your workout, and you might not feel the full effect; too far, and you might as well be taking sugar pills.
But let's cut to the chase – if your diet and exercise routine are more inconsistent than your internet connection, no amount of Clenbutrol is going to save the day.
It's not a magic pill that allows you to out-eat a bad diet or underperform in the gym. I tried following the guidelines to the letter, hoping for some noticeable changes.
And while I might've felt a bit more pep in my step, it was my sweat and dedication in the gym, along with turning down that extra slice of pizza, that made the real difference.
The bottom line? Clenbutrol might play a supporting role in your fitness journey, but it's not the lead actor. Your diet and exercise are the true stars of the show. Thinking that Clenbutrol alone will get you to your goals is like hoping a single raindrop will fill a bucket – optimistic, but unrealistic.

Clenbutrol vs Burn-XT

Clenbutrol brings to the table a unique blend with 63 mg of Vitamin B3 for energy metabolism, 450 mg each of Garcinia Cambogia for appetite control and Bitter Orange Extract for a metabolic boost, and 342 mg of Guarana Extract for a caffeine-driven energy kick. This composition makes Clenbutrol a solid choice for those prioritizing natural stimulants and metabolic enhancers, alongside appetite suppression benefits.
On the flip side, Burn-XT sports a different arsenal with 700 mg of Acetyl L-Carnitine for fat transport and energy, 450 mg of Green Tea Leaf Extract rich in antioxidants and promoting thermogenesis, 270 mg of Caffeine Anhydrous for a strong energy boost, along with 50 mg of Capsimax Cayenne Pepper for its thermogenic properties, and 5 mg of Bioperine to enhance absorption. Burn-XT’s formula is tailored for those seeking a high dose of direct energy sources and fat oxidation aids, with a keen focus on increasing caloric burn and enhancing energy for rigorous workouts.
In essence, if you're leaning towards a supplement that offers a mix of appetite suppression, natural energy, and a metabolic kick without too much direct caffeine, Clenbutrol could be your go-to. However, if your main goal is maximizing fat burn, enhancing energy levels with a more straightforward stimulant approach, and optimizing nutrient absorption, then Burn-XT might serve your needs better.

Clenbutrol vs Instant Knockout Cut 2.0

Clenbutrol focuses on a blend that includes Vitamin B3 for metabolic support, Garcinia Cambogia and Bitter Orange Extract for their potential roles in appetite suppression and metabolic enhancement, and Guarana Extract for a natural source of caffeine. This makes Clenbutrol suitable for those interested in a combination of metabolism boosting, appetite control, and a moderate level of stimulant-based energy.
Instant Knockout Cut 2.0, on the other hand, offers a more comprehensive approach towards not just metabolism and energy, but also nutrient absorption and satiety. It includes a high dose of Glucomannan for appetite suppression, a substantial amount of Green Tea Extract for metabolism, and Caffeine Anhydrous paired with L-Theanine for a balanced energy lift without the jitters. The addition of Vitamin D3, B6, and B12 supports overall well-being and energy metabolism at a cellular level. The presence of Cayenne Powder and Black Pepper Extract not only aids in metabolism but also enhances the bioavailability of other nutrients.
For those prioritizing appetite suppression with a strong, clinically significant dose of Glucomannan and a holistic approach to weight loss, including mood and energy support through vitamins and amino acids, Instant Knockout Cut 2.0 emerges as the preferable choice. Clenbutrol remains a solid option for individuals focusing on thermogenic fat burning, natural stimulants for energy, and those looking for a supplement that includes specific metabolic enhancers like Garcinia Cambogia and Bitter Orange Extract.

The Benefits of Clenbutrol

Thermogenic Fat Burning

Clenbutrol boasts about turning up your body's thermostat to melt away fat like a snowman in July. This thermogenic process supposedly uses fat as fuel for this fiery furnace. Sounds hot, right? But let's cool down for a sec. The actual burn might feel more like a lukewarm breeze than a blazing inferno. The idea that a pill can selectively torch fat while you binge-watch your favorite series is, frankly, a bit hard to swallow.

Boosting Stamina and Energy

Next up, Clenbutrol promises an energy surge rivaling your triple-shot espresso, propelling you through workouts with the vigor of a toddler on a sugar rush. But here's a dose of reality: the stamina boost often feels more like a gentle nudge rather than a rocket launch. Yes, there's a bit more pep in your step, but if you're expecting to transform into the Energizer Bunny, you might end up feeling more like a regular rabbit – slightly faster, but definitely not battery-powered.

Appetite Suppression

Now, onto the hunger games. Clenbutrol claims to wield the power to suppress your appetite, making calorie-cutting as easy as pie – which, ironically, is exactly what you're trying to avoid. In theory, feeling fuller should help you bid adieu to snacking. However, in practice, your mileage may vary. Some days, the hunger pangs might be less noticeable, but on others, it's like your stomach is a bottomless pit, screaming for a snack. So, while there's some truth to the appetite suppression claims, it's not the all-powerful solution it's made out to be.

Preservation of Lean Muscle Mass

One of the more grounded claims is Clenbutrol's ability to safeguard your hard-earned muscles from becoming collateral damage in your war on fat. There's some merit here – focusing on muscle preservation is crucial. However, don't expect this supplement alone to be your muscle's knight in shining armor. It's more of a sidekick, offering a bit of help, but the real heroes are your diet and workout regimen.

No Risk of Androgenic Side-Effects

Finally, the safety card. Clenbutrol is heralded for having no androgenic side effects, setting it apart from its steroid counterparts. Sure, avoiding the risk of turning into a pimple-covered, mood-swinging version of yourself is a big plus. But let's not put Clenbutrol on a pedestal just yet. While it's commendable that it sidesteps these nasty side effects, don't forget this is more about what Clenbutrol doesn't do rather than what it does. It's akin to celebrating a firework that doesn't explode – safe, but somewhat underwhelming.

Comparing Clenbutrol with Clenbuterol

Alright, let's break this down. Clenbuterol – the OG that Clenbutrol mimics – has a rep that's as shady as an alleyway at midnight. Originally, it wasn't even meant for gym rats; it was a drug to help asthmatic horses. Yes, horses. Then, bodybuilders caught wind of its fat-burning side effect and thought, "Hey, why let the horses have all the fun?" Fast forward, and it's infamous for risky side effects like heart palpitations, excessive sweating, and shaking hands that could double as a personal fan. Not to mention, it's as illegal for bodybuilding as spray-painting graffiti on the local police station.
Enter Clenbutrol, the "legal" brother that promises similar gains without turning you into a jittery mess or a lawbreaker. But here's the kicker: while it waves the flag of safety and legality, don't expect it to perform miracles. It's like comparing a wild tiger to a house cat; they might look similar, but one's a lot less likely to tear you to pieces.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Is Clenbutrol safe?

As safe as crossing the street with your eyes open. It's made from ingredients that won't have you experiencing a heart-pounding rave in your chest. But as with crossing the street, it's best to look both ways – consult a doctor if you're unsure.

Does it actually work?

It's like asking if a diet soda will help you lose weight. Maybe, if you're not washing down a triple cheeseburger with it. Clenbutrol can give you a nudge, but don't ditch your gym membership just yet.

Where can I buy it?

Hang tight; we're getting to that.

Where to Buy Clenbutrol and Its Pricing

Want to give Clenbutrol a whirl? Stick to the yellow brick road leading directly to CrazyBulk's official website. It's the only way to ensure you're not getting duped by some knock-off that's as effective as a sugar pill.
As for the damage to your wallet, it's not exactly chump change. A month's supply will set you back about the same as a fancy dinner for two. And if you're planning to stack it with other products, prepare for your bank account to take a hit. Sure, they offer bundles that promise savings, but remember, the best savings often come from investing in fresh produce and a gym membership.

Female, 30s, sedentary due to physical disability.
I’ve taken the ECA stack for a few weeks at a time on a few occasions many years ago. I stopped because I couldn’t remember to take my meds regularly, and thus wasn’t gaining any benefit. I never had any side effects (except the one time I accidentally dosed two caffeine pills, instead of one).
For the last few years I’ve been suffering from long covid, and now live a rather sedentary lifestyle, due to the pain. This, along with stress/boredom eating has caused me to gain a lot of weight. I eat healthy, mainly protein and veggies while limiting carbs. I also only drink water (and sometimes Pedialyte). However, I can’t seem to lose any substantial amount of weight. I’m also losing cognition and deal with ADD. My doctors are treating the pain, but not the cognition and ADD. Thus I’ve started self-medicating the ECA stack again. I’ve researched it, and understand the risks. Since I’m on daily diclofenac, that takes the place of the aspirin.
I was planning on taking a dose of 25mg ephedrine, and 200mg caffeine with my noon meds (I now use an app on my phone to remind me), and a second dose of ephedrine and caffeine, six hours later.
I just started the stack a few days ago. Each day I have taken the noon dose, which soon makes me feel more alert. But around 4pm, I crash, and end up sleeping for about four to six hours. By then, it’s too late to take a second dose. Is crashing like this normal? Am I going to crash every time I take the stack from now on? This is inconvenient.

I have a pretty bad caffeine addiction lol. I have anywhere from 300-500mg a day, and it's to the point where I hardly even notice any effects from it. No jitters, shakes, heart racing, it barely even energizes me.
I've also had a few stints with ECA stacks (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin) which combines to make a thermogenic stimulant. I have cycled in the past as I've developed tolerances to this as well.
My question is, would my usage of stimulants have any effect on how well bupropion helps me? I am wondering this because I've noticed hardly any effects on WB, even at 300mg XL. I didn't have any side effects either. It hasn't affected my sleep or appetite. It doesn't give me much more energy or motivation. Am I a chemical enigma, or have I ruined my brain with stimulants?

Just wondering what you guys use, if anything, to enhance your performance in the gym. I just want to make sure I’m getting the most out of each session while on TRT. Do you have any pre workout’s you can recommend, caffein, other?
I used to use caffein but that just had less and less of an effect as I was drinking it through the day, and the pre workout’s I’ve used before make me feel spaced and tingly. The place I my T from also sells ephedrine so was maybe looking into trying that?

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First, I am NOT asking for help, instructions, or advice. Just a yes or no question because I want to be informed om what i am putting into my body. I don't want my post removed because google won't tell me anything, I've searched for this answer extensively and now turn here.
My sister's friend said her adderall was not working ever since the shortage started, and that she drug tested herself and didn't test positive for amphetamine.
Making me wonder if/what they could be substituting their base for, what their base is/was in the first place, and why there is a shortage of it.
Is it derived from something natural? ( ephedrine) or are they using a substitute?