Rude qouts | | AITA for kicking my brother in-law out when he was homeless?

I (24f) have my loveing wife (25f) of being together for 10 years, married for 3 years (we meet when we were 12 and started datingwhen we were 14 ) when I came out to me and my girlfriend's family, her older brother (17 at the time) what EXSTREAMLY homophobic to not only his sister but me as well. when I came out to my family I got kicked out and had no where else to go. My girlfriend offered for me to stay with her, but had to act like it was an extendedsleepover (for context, it was mostly my dad who made the dition to throw me out. so most nights I would sneek into my room threw the window to get cloths and stuff ect..) My girlfirends partens, were supportive and let me have "extended sleepovers" but her brother on the other hand, knew what was going on. we cept the act up for about maybe 3 mounths? before her brother ratted us out, and he personally picked me and my stuff up and threw me out the frontdoor. I was homeless for a good amount of time and my girlfriend would so what she could, whenever she could to help me when I was struggling.
eventually, we grew and bought a small apartment when she turned 16, (I did get hotels and stuff, so for the year or so that I was struggling) we both worked when we can and I had to drop out of high school since I missed so much school after being thrown out. from that point on me and my girlfriend grew and became sucsefull. recently, my now wife, had informed me that her brother was homeless, and asked if he could stay with us. originally I disagreed with it, he had caused a lot of pain, me spacifly, but she convinced me and I had made a secret deal with myself to treat hom how he treated us.
when he arrive, he saw me and the first thing he said was qout and qout, "oh that gay f@g is still around?" I was fuming but walked off, I was more or so less made because what he did in the pass, but the first thing he says when walking into our home was to comment with a slur. I let him stay for three monthson the dott, the whole time he was rude, disrespectful and homophobic, he treated us like his maids!!!! I have been working out for a few years now, so when physically trying to throw him out, if he tried anything I could defend myself. I kicked him and threw all his stuff into the street, of course he was cursing me out, more slurs ect, ect. ofc that started a argument with my wife and she is calling me the A-hole, so AITA?two slu

Me (17)and my ex (17)had a very bad brake up almost 2 months ago when I was in a wheelchair and I'm still recovering from both the breakup and the injury it I haven't been in a good mental state for a while and most of my friends know about this and they would normally try to help which is good sometimes it just hasn't made me feel better and alot more stuff keeps happening with my family and everything and things are falling apart.
yesterday I got a text from my ex asking if I could give her number to someone and I thought well if I barley on now then I guess I wouldn't mind so I said yeah but then she said my friends(18) name let's call him jack and I still did it because I was trying to brush it off but then jack texts me saying qoute "ik this is going to be weird but ex's name seems to like me and I like her and I wanna have a good friendship with you and I don't want it to be weird.
i told him its better to talk in person about it so we did that this morning and I told him its rude to date a dudes ex and he knows but then when a mutual friend of ours hears this and we fill him in jack says that the mutual friend is more mad than I am when he wasn't even apart of this nor has any emotional connect to it.we stopped talking about it and played mtg (a card game) and I have been trying to not say anything about it because I don't wanna talk about it but also I'm still pretty upset about it then my cousin who is best friends with my ex finds out Im mad and comes and says "why are you being pissy" and ik for a fact she knows why so I said "because my friend is dating my ex" and our other friends chime in and say"id be fine if you dated my ex's"this upset me and i replied "and I wouldn't because idk how you would feel about it and plus no one in the group has dated someone in a year or more. while I had just got of that relationship that I barely got over and was still hurt.
my cousin told me I shouldn't be rude to jack or my ex and I told my cousin that I wouldn't protest it I'm just upset at him about it because I feel sorta betrayed buts it's the closest word for how I entirely feel about it and I haven't said anything that was rude when all I have said was how I felt about it and how it was rude to me that he knew that I wasn't comfortable with it idk man I understand I can't tell them not to date hell I'm Happy for them but I feel like he didn't fully care how I would feel about him dating my ex I just got out a relationship with that hurt me alot am I the asshole ?

I dumped him after he said transphobic jokes about my brother and about my tits he literally and I qoute said “anime girls have better tits then you” my bra size is a DD 36 his mom was right there when he said all of this and blames him for our break up I blame him to it was rude and hurtful of him

Hi everyone, I'm a nanny for a child on the weekends, I only just started in July but I've already been there a lot and done a lot for them.
My problem is they haven't paid me yet and it's been about 13 hours. In all honesty I'm owed quite a lot between gas, errands, food, and my actual time. I haven't had a problem with them yet and I really do like them, but I don't know how to ask for my payment without coming off too strong or rude. They're an extremely nice and their child is a total sweetheart. I've had issues in the past where I've had a couple that said, and I qoute, "You'll get paid when you get paid", so I do have a bit of an issue where I freak out if I'm not paid the night I'm supposed to be paid.
PLEASE HELP TIA!!!
Edit: So as soon as I posted, she messaged me but I'm going to keep this post up just in case anyone else has the same issue so they can also look at the advice.

So it sounded alright, i recently got injured doing concrete work (been working in the industry 10 years) and im just getting older and bosses dont care about your saftey, its all about profit. Once my concrete burns healed i began applying at a few different jobs and chick fila responded and hired me. The interview was fine, lady was nice. A few days later i went to the the orientation. It was scheduled at 3pm and i walked in a few minutes early... Or so i thought. They already started the orientation,wtf. I walked over to my seat and i saw a partial uniform and a Chick-fil-A box i assumed had some food in it. She said not everyone not there full uniform and to put checks next to the items i received. I only checked the pants and the shoes and handed the paper to her. I open the box because i was kinda hungry, and i see the rest of my uniform! Whatever, i asked the lady for the form back so i could fix it and she was so rude about it. She ridiculed me infront of the whole group, i was like" i assumed it was food because its in a meal box". I was like whatever. The orientation goes on and they start qouteing bible verses about the jews.. which i thought was really inappropriate. Then we had a training video whith some younger girl who looked absolutely psychotic. I dont know if i can do this... My first day is tomorrow and i may just blow it off. If i have to deal with that rude bitch everyday im outta there.

I give an example: I went on usual break of work and had to drop a car+ stuff on it, so I asked the college above me "where do i put it", his response "oh you cant get in trouble you are not there anyways, just drop it in the yard".
I collected my stuff and he said "but you finish cleaning the kitchen" and I responded jokingly "well, cant get into trouble if not as i am not there". he was offended.
I basically just responded with his own sentence. None the less he doesnt do his jobs proper, I dont have to get told. It is mindboggling how he cant see I just qouted him. Like a goldfish forgetting everything.
He reminds me of writing a document but not saving it. So why should I write in the first place? Its obvious he quickly is ego hurt, I could give him the validation he wants but why? He is in the "wrong".
In general people wanna play power games, I dont chair that but if I would calmly dissect them they would call me rude. While themselves bending happenings and making wrongly statements. My standarts for interaction are quite low, stay accurate without doublestandarts or being a hypocrite. Some common sense without changing past events into more than they were. If you cant do so I will not get involved with you other than professional

Yesterday the store I (27F) work at started putting up their LGBT PRIDE section. Not even an hour after opening did we have an angry customer over it. My manager told him he needed to leave as he was being disruptive. He left stating that we need to either be corrected or burned.
I wish I had had clever retort to throw back at him, but I had froze up.
Later I was relaying all this to my shift replacement (25M) in case he tried to come back. My coworker just shrugged and said "It's okay if he feels that way, these people are mentally ill and need correction."
No, it is not okay if someone wants to kill us if we don't conform to their way of life. We don't need correction. We are the way we are and there's nothing wrong with us.
I'm demisexual/bisexual in a heterosexual relationship. I dont come off as being in the LGBT unless I tell someone. Most of our other coworkers are LGBT or allies.
Sadly I shouldn't be surprised the coworker is rude to women, qoutes Andrew Taint and a certain ex president. Instead of using mine or any other women's name he'll call us, female 1, female 2, etc. He ranks us by how fuckable we appear. We had a FTM coworker that went by he/they pronouns and he refused to use them and would call him an "it in sheep's clothing."
None of us can stand working with him, but he sadly hasn't done anything "fire worthy".
As much as I hate him, I'm not leaving the job. Everyone else is great, the pay is decent and I'm close to home.
Thanks to anyone that read my rambling, I just had to talk about it, even if it's into the void of Reddit

I might as well just get into the story. I have a small friend group of about five, inwhich only one is relevant to this story. Let's call her X. X had me added on discord, TikTok and Snapchat, so she saw everything I posted etc etc. I have a few interests and one of them is a TV show. I really like it and talk about it a lot, although it's hard to find people who like it. I told my friends about it and X and a different girl in my friend group let's call E said it's stupid, and continued to "bully" me for liking it. okay, fine. I like some twitch streamers, "why are you wearing that hoodie.." everything that I have ever liked has been judged by her. I was fed up and sent her a message on discord stating this:
"Everytime I like something you make fun of me for it. I like dream smp? "Ew" "why are you wearing that hoodie" oooh! I like a show, "are you actually going to kiss them?" Obviously fucking not. I really like Gotham, "it's a stupid show" "Batman.." did I ask for your input in any of my life, NO. do I still get your un-needed "friendly" opinion. YES."
I waited a day and went out with my friends waiting for her response. Here was hers:
Never said alot of that Also u put ur input on alot of thing people things for no reason at all. I’m sorry feel that way but you do that all the time to people who are just takin so I don’t know why u think I’m being rude cuz u do it to so many people that being nice. Also why u just say something out no we’re did u just feel like fighting?Also u make fun of people voice all the time.. like are u taking to yourself Not trying to make enemies.
I haven't made fun of anyone's voice and I have talked shit before WITH her but not about somebody's voice. Every word I qouted in my text to her was said by HER.
I said back: "I may have memory loss but Im not delutional" (sorry if I spelt that wrong)
I blocked her on everything and forgot Snapchat, she texted me this:
"Well now I know you don't like karma."
I responded with; " Karma for what? For blocking you?? Bitch you aren't the queen."
I blocked her and I am genuinely curious if I'm the asshole.

22./42 H, along love part 4: Berlin and Almost dead Warning: sexually explicit text, reference to death
We had been to Berlin together. It was beautiful, and we had a lot of fun. But the first day I got there I was sick. I wanted to stay inside and rest the first day, but she didn't agree. I felt dizzy and yet I had to go with her to everything, and then she started complaining again that I 'didn't say anything'.
Back in Belgium she often told how she was viewed by other men, some even said things like: 'If I could I would give you so much love." I was a little jealous. I was always rejected, while the men just came after her.
She started to complain more and more about things. I once had to buy chocolate for her mother, but it had to be sugar-free. So, I bought sugar-free chocolate, but her mom doesn't like that, so I bought sugar-free chocolate from someone other brand, but that wasn't good either, so I had to buy chocolate with sugar from that one brand. It was a long foolish hassle.
Another thing she often said was that I was spoiled. What did she even mean by that? I had bought my computer and mobile phone with my own pocket money, for which I had done holiday jobs. While she also had a computer and cell phone, and her family owned FOUR cars. FOUR CARS. One for her mother, one for her father, and her brother had a car, but then got a company car. H. then got that second-hand car from her brother. Okay, so three cars. But still, three cars? My family always had only one. I had worked hard for my Bachelor's degree and was busy for my Master's. I didn't feel the need to travel far or go to a restaurant. I really don't get where she got this idea from.
Her friendship with Josefien had come to an end, and she was having a really hard time dealing with it. She kept talking about it for months. Sure, losing people can hurt. But it was, just kinda weird. I also had a lot of old friendships that have faded. Why was this so bad? I was there for her, and I supported her. Even now I hope she is happy. I also had a sleeping problem all my life, which often made me tired with her. She does have a point, although there's not much I can do about it.
She also liked to ask rhetorical questions. Like "How do you think I feel about that?" and then I said "You're right." I understood what she wanted to say, but then after a while she suddenly said "You still haven't answered my question!"
We had dinner together with her family and I talked about how healthy eating is actually a good investment, something I had read. You buy some sports equipment and food that seems expensive at first glance, such as whole wheat bread, nuts, fruits and vegetables, but you save a lot of future hospital costs. While I was talking, her mother went to the bathroom for a moment, while her father listened with a smile. Afterwards my girlfriend was angry with me. For some reason, her mother was offended by this and had started crying in the toilet. Poor woman, this was not my intention at all!
She also often asked if I wanted to meet her and her friends, but she never said what time it was, where it was, and how to get there. Was she going to take me by car or did she want me to take the train?
In the meantime I had read about spices, they are healthy, especially if you use different spices. I often put spices on my food, chicken spices, turmeric, pepper, cinnamon in my yogurt, and so on. She told me not to do this because it was rude. She was a really weird girl.
Sometimes I would share something interesting that I'd heard or read, even things I'd learned for college, and she'd often say, "You're wasting your time learning about everything." And sometimes her family would say "How do you know that?" like it was weird to know things. In retrospect, this was a great compliment. Most people play four hours a day games or watch stupid series, but I like learning things more. And if I know so much that it's even 'weird', well then I'm doing a good job. I may be weird, but at least I know a lot. I'm not smart though, just curious.
She also complained that I drank too much water. "You should only drink when you are thirsty." And so did I. She said that my water consumption was unhealthy and that if I ended up in the hospital because of this she would not help me. As if I drank ten litres of water one after the other. Really bizarre. She said I drank too much water and ate too much chocolate, but she was the one who was overweight and drank soda constantly.
We also had a near death experience. H., Paul and I went to the Hare Krishnas in Durbuy. H. took us by car on the way there, she had to take a bend, along the highway, and it had just rained. The car slipped. I held on and felt my body rushing with adrenaline. I closed my eyes. I was scared, but all I could do was let it happen. The car came to a stop. The car was in the grass, half in the bushes. Luckily we didn't hit a single tree. We were all okay, all three of us. H. was very responsible then, because she drove back a bit, turned and drove on.
People were honking and yelling like we did it on purpose, just for fun. We drove on and arrived in Durbuy. H. and Paul were playing cards and I said we should leave now, for the tour.
"Ah, google maps says it's only a half hour walk." I said: 'Yes, but you can count on that double, since we are not walking fast and will probably take a wrong road'. They didn't believe me, and continued to play. We left, took a wrong turn, and walked below the 'google maps speed'. We were late for the tour...which I found very unfortunate, I wondered how the Hare Krishna's lived and what they believed in.
We slept together in a rented house. H. and I together, and Paul in another room. I had, as a joke but actually serious, suggested a threesome, but they both thought it was very, very foul. To each their own. I don't even know if H. and I had sex then, our relationship was going downhill.
I always said I wanted to make art, I have so many stories in my head that I want to tell. We were both creative, so we understood this at the beginning. I wanted to work part-time and be an artist part-time. Later, however, J. complained that this was unrealistic. She'd say things like "I'm going to be turning jars at the factory while you can be the lazy artist." and "What are we going to eat then?" Sorry but food is not that expensive, and in Belgium the poor are assisted very well.
They usually get food and shelter, in addition there are many edible plants such as dandelions, clovers, daisies and nettles. If necessary, you can catch a few pigeons and insects for protein. You might think I'm joking, but these are weird times these days, so you never know when we're going to have to live off nature.
Whenever she felt bad she would message me and I had to reply IMMEDIATELY. I loved her, and of course I don't want her to be sad. But I felt like a court jester, whenever she felt bad or bored, I had to do a show and send messages.
She had a lot of friends, so I don't understand why she didn't send them if there was something wrong. I was there for her, but I couldn't drop everything for her every five seconds and message her for half an hour.
She was also always mad because I hadn't gotten my driver's license yet. She hated that "she had to drive that far" when she came to me. While it was very long for me to go there by train. I didn't have time to get my driver's license because of all the schoolwork. But that's why she kept calling me lazy.
Throughout our relationship, we had the habit of skyping or chatting in the evenings. But her internet was bad, so it was a hassle to get it right. But usually we did something else in the meantime, she played pokémon and I watched a series, or worked for school. At the end of the relationship we almost always argued, I don't even remember why. It was then 10pm or 11pm and I had to wake up in time for school. So I said several times that I was going to sleep, but she just wanted to argue. So I just went offline and went to sleep. She would then complain "Ah you think that's normal, we discuss something and you just say "goodnight" and go to sleep!" What did she want me to do? Fight all night?
She always said "I have to adapt to you, but you don't return anything." I didn't even know how she adapted to me, and didn't even dare to ask anymore.
What she also often said: "My grandma and grandpa sometimes come to visit and ask where you are. How should I feel about that?" Who cares what two elderly people say? And now I suddenly had to live with her and her family all day? I did not get it.
In the end, I had to lie a lot to survive this relationship, and to make sure I had enough time for my schoolwork. In hindsight, we should have broken up long ago. But we were both desperate, unsure.
I often have to go to the toilet, I've been like that all my life. But H. didn't understand that exactly and found it irritating, and she's the only one in my life who found that so annoying. So then I started saying I had diarrhoea, something she often suffered from. So then she
acted normal about it.
As I said, there were always a lot of family gatherings with her, and they were extremely long, either from 1pm to 8pm or from 5pm to 2am past midnight. For example, I had to escape by saying I had a stomachache, or that I had to be home at 6 pm because my parents had made fries, and had agreed to eat dinner together, etc... Hardly anything was said during the celebrations. Grandpa sometimes talked about the past and his life, that was interesting, but that was it. They always started smoking next to me, inside, very healthy, delicious! The party was so boring that they looked at someone parking a car, to see if he would hit the mirror of the car next to him. I suspect that family had an exciting life. All you could do against the boredom was eat, eat and eat. Cakes and biscuits, very healthy. I had finally adapted and tried to dance along, I tried to let go of all my irritations, H. liked that, but it was too late.
Because she was often jealous of Paul, I sometimes didn't tell her I met Paul. Something she often did was playfully take my cell phone. She did this once and saw that I had arranged a meet with Paul. She literally cried. I liked her, and I didn't like it when she felt bad. She said "Am I such a monster that you have to hide this from me?"
In retrospect, maybe yes. I'm just platonic friends with him, we don't even have sex, why is she so jealous?
She wanted to see me so often, and I had so much schoolwork that last year, so I lied that I had to go to school on Wednesdays even when there was no class.
23./42 H, a long love part 5: Almost Cheating and The Last Feast Warning: sexually explicit text, paedophilia My train once had a breakdown, so I had to get off at a stop between REDACTED TOWN and my home city. So I thought I'd have a drink, as I had to wait for my next train. I was looking for the least sleazy cafe. I went to the cafe which was the quietest, but actually it was the most soundproof cafe as there was tremendously loud music as soon as I opened the door. I went to the toilet and wanted to order a coffee. A dancing man motioned for me to sit next to a woman. She was in her 30s, maybe even in her early 40s. We chatted for a bit, but she started saying all sorts of weird things like: My "girlfriend wasn't any good" and I "needed an older girl" that I "looked mature for my age." She tried get in my pants, but did she have bad intentions? Was she after my money? Because she said she used men. I was completely confused, the temptation was great, but I had to stay true to H. I finished my coffee and left immediately. On the train, I realized I had forgotten to pay. But I dared not go back, what is she seduced me?
I told this to H. and she was offended by that woman.
Her brother liked to drive his company car, and he drove very fast, and did not distance himself from vehicles before him.
One night, a car in front of him suddenly braked. As a result, he had to swerve and ran over a man who had gone for a walk with friends. The brother got out to help the man, but one group of friends wanted to beat him up, while the other group of friends stopped them. Someone called an ambulance and the man was taken to hospital with serious injuries. The brother saw this event playing in his head over and over again and suffered from nightmares. I suggested that maybe he could see a psychologist as this sounded like trauma, but H. said this was a waste of money.
The last family party was pure hell. They had found some dumb reason to celebrate. Her aunt was with her boyfriend for a year. They had rented an entire hall for that to celebrate, where did they even get the money from? I had to be there until 2 am, because until then there was food. "Leaving early was rude because aunt had paid for the food." You could barely talk because of the loud music. I sat there with a stroboscope light in my eyes, it was very annoying, so I went outside regularly. Which H. didn't like. One of the family members had a new lover, everyone talked about it, because she was Hot Marijke. A sex worker who had become famous on television. I suspect she was a lawyer to make sexuality more open to discussion. The brother was talking to an uncle, and at one point he touched his nose quite conspicuously. He and the uncle would then quickly walk to the toilet. Touching your nose is code for cocaine.
The aunt and her boyfriend had made a special video. It was a slide-show of the aunt and her boyfriend growing up apart from baby to adult. It took so long, and it was so boring, while the uncle tried to make silly jokes with his microphone. In the end, the aunt and uncle were adults in the photos. I was happy and saw the light at the end of the tunnel. But no, instead of time passing by, more and more photos from the same period were shown. It was like that nightmare where you want to run away, but you just go slower, and slower.
At the party, the most disgusting song in the world was played "She is only sixteen years old" in which a man sings in a West Flemish dialect with a big accent about how he lusts after a 16-year-old girl, but then decides to drool on her mother because she is an adult. I HATED this song. If someone said something like that, they would immediately be sent to jail, but for some reason that song had become a hit. At that moment I went out, I walked around for five minutes, I hoping it was over, but I came back and was greeted by the whole family going wild, with elderly twerking aunts, to a remix of the "she is only 16 years old" song.
It was past noon and I lied to H. that I had a stomachache. I could relax in her car and I did some reading. I longed to have my own driver's license so I could leave whenever I wanted or when I was too tired. I tried to complain as little as possible, I didn't want to lose her. But she complained about how I went to toilet and outside too often.
We also were going to meet up with her friends. Her friend 'John' had created a facebook event for it. The location was in 'The Wine Chatteau'. I didn't know where that was at all. I asked my love how I could get there but she never answered, finally she said ask him. I asked him but John never replied either. Finally I said to her: "Look, if I don't know where it is, you can't expect me to be there." I always like to plan how I'm going to get somewhere.
She always talked about Robbe, and how cool he was, and how they played Facebook games together. Facebook games..... It was a silly quiz where you basically gave away all your personal information. She wanted me to play those games with her too. I didn't have time for it, and I Facebook was already stealing more than enough information from us.
For a moment I thought our relationship was getting better. That she appreciated that I went to the party and danced along.
She complained less and there was no arguing until one night. We were arguing again, I don't even remember about what, it was late so I said 'goodnight and went to sleep. As always I put my cell phone on air-plane mode. That way I don't wake up when a friend sends me a message at 12 am, and that way I don't get bothered at 4 am by e-mails from the USA and such. Recently, I always set my cell phone to "Do not disturb." I continue to use my cell phone, but I'm never bothered by it from advertisers etc. Wonderful. Anyway, I forgot to put my cell phone on air-plane mode, and I got a call from her at 1am. She was upset and crying. "I don't know what to do anymore." she said. 'I also do not know it.' I said surprised. I tried to comfort her. We were talking about living alone. She said ironically, full of venom "Yeah if we live together that would be easy, wouldn't it." I really don't understand what this was all about, so I just said, "Yes." I tried to comfort her further and I said "We are both very tired, we need sleep, we will discuss this tomorrow okay?" I laid down. And put my cell phone on air-plane mode.
It's true at night you are exhausted, both mentally and physically, small problems suddenly seem like giant monsters, that's why many people suffer from insomnia. The problems are swirling in their heads, asking for a solution, when you have to think about things during the day, while taking a walk or doing chores, not when you are exhausted, without a clear mind. The worst part was that she would call Paul out of bed. Jesus...
I was afraid of losing her. We were together for 5 years. I knew I had autism and was weird, was I ever going to be able to find someone like her? Someone who accepted me for who I was? Or was I doomed to be lonely? Depressed full of loneliness or worse, a rapist? These were my toxic thoughts. I thought one day she would see how she worried about nothing, that all her ideas of "how everything should be" were just arbitrary nonsense standards that her family had imposed on her and which she had imposed on herself. I thought she was finally going to let go of all her complaints and frustrations, but instead she dropped me.
She sent an ominous message "We need to talk." This came in like a bomb. We agreed.
It was September 19, 201X. She was parked not far from my house. I sent the Evangelion quote "You are worthy of my grace, it means I love you.' Evangelion was the thing that connected us first. So it seemed good to end with that. I got in the car and she didn't know where the qoute came from, or what I meant by it. She gave me a letter, she said it was hard to put into words so, she wrote a letter. It was full of her lamentations again, I still have it somewhere, though I don't know where. She said she broke up with me. I was a sweet boy, she said, but she couldn't anymore. She hoped the best for me. I accepted it, it was what it was, and I couldn't force her to stay in a relationship. She also said, "You can try tinder now." it was weird that she said this, but hey, she set me free, and i saw this as permission to experience free love. I had to redo my year, but it was only my paper that I had to redo. So I finally had a year with a lot of time. Plenty of time for H. but it was too late. Now I know she was right, she needs a man who can work hard and earn some money, which I couldn't do, I was a dreamer, a thinker, a writer, a woman.

For the context I, 21 female have 3 friends Lia, 22, George 21 and Drake 22, we are all pre-med students and the cost of one book alone is a fortune. Not that I couldn't afford it but it's too much money since my Aunt from my mother side was the one paying for my school. So, to have a textbook I would always buy E-book ones since it's convenient and lightweight and I often share it with my friendsvia email (my email which they all have access to), they offer to pay me several times but I refuse since we all practice give in take in our circle.
Recently, one of my male friends whom I have a crush on Drake, got himself a girlfriend which I will call Zee. I was the last one to know given that my friends knew I have a crush on him. His girlfriend is our junior also taking the same course as all of us. I meet her a couple of time before but I don't really care that much since I don't like her at first meeting. She's too good to be true and my friend Lia agrees with me. Zee and I don't talk that much, we will just hold small talks and that's it.
One time, she texted me asking for my email and password so she could look up a lesson from one of my E-books which made me confuse and her audacity to just texted me asking for my email and password without even asking if she could have it. Her message was and I qoute "Hey, what's your email and password? I need it, I have to look up my lessons." It pissed me off. So I texted her back "why would I give it to you?" She replied "you have books about this... Right? I need it." I'm so pissed that she's entitled to my E-books so I called Drake and told him about Zee.
He explained that he told her about my E-books since she caught him one time using it in one of his reviews and she asked about it. He also said that he didn't give her the email and password for it since it's not his to give and If she wants it she should ask me and her way of asking me is so rude so I just ignored her. Days passed Lia, messaged me telling me that Drake's group of friends together with his girlfriend is bad mouthing me for refusing to give her access to my E-books. Zee and Drakes other friends called me a jealous selfish bitch for not giving her access to it causing her to fail one of her important test.
So, am I the asshole?

This girl and I have been friends for about 6 months now and I've noticed something about her. She has alot of money. She brings a card to school while I only bring coins and paper money. She doesn't use her card though. She always expects me to be the one to buy us our food (popcorn or mini pies) but with the start of exams I started saving up my money so that I have enough for the holidays. I only bought myself a chocolate but she would ask if she could have some and I would give her piece because I have trouble saying no. Her mother deposits 200 into her account every month but again, she doesn't use it and only eats from whatever I buy.
About 2 weeks ago it was a rather rainy and cold day and I decided to buy myself a pie because the cafeteria makes it warm and fresh. She said, and I qoute "I'm really hungry but don't want to use any money." That immediately sent red flags off but I just said okay and laughed. We sat in front of our exam room and spoke about anything that came to mind and the moment I opened my pie she asked if she could have half but then immediately changed to only a piece. I didn't want to give her some but did anyway even though she could afford her own.
She has a very spoilt and judgemental attitude but I don't want to be rude and say anything directly to her so am I the asshole for feeling this way?

Hello. this is abt the same nana from my last AITA story and that explains why i’m not on speaking terms with her. but in short it’s because she’s toxic. Anyways onto my story I (17f) recently had my nana reach out to me abt a situation going on with my papa (that i’m still in contact with). but i know the only reason she did it is to get sympathy because “oh his situation is bad but imagine how i feel :( “ that’s just how she is. so instead of giving her that i told her and i qoute “nana who said u were allowed to text me” now i know that may be rude but if u read my other story you’d understand, cause she has yet to apologize for the things she did and that’s how she wanted to start our conversation? anyways two seconds later my aunt (35F) (the one that also messaged me saying i was an AH last story) said i needed to not be disrespectful. but to me i set a boundary. one she knows abt and still they broke it. and because my aunt messaged me i told her and expressed how they always made me sad and i felt u wanted and how i dont want negative people bringing me down especially when i have other stressors at the moment. i was being polite and mature at first but she kept calling me a spoiled bitch who’s disrespectful and needs a “reality check” because i’ll account to nothing. so i’ll admit i got a bit heated and said words back. but there was no reason for her to message me in the first place. i just wanted no contact and they deliberately broke that. and my mom was a bit upset at how i spoke to her sister but understands and knows she shouldn’t have spoken to me the way she did either. and my dad thinks i shouldve just left it be and ignored her completely and was upset i even bothered explaining myself when i should’ve known she wouldn’t have understood. so it’s a bit of a 50/50 and i don’t know if that’s how i shouldve done it. so i just want to know was i wrong for being rude and speaking to them the way i did?

This might or might not be the start of a chain of vents from me. Ive looked through the subreddit and have a few.. concerns, feels like the comments might not be as supportive as advertised. But I'll take a gambit with this one and hope the i get lucky, and to those who have already been hurt by any comments i am sorry this is meant to be a safe place but this is the internet nothing is guentreed.
SO, After immediatly losing your interest in me with that tangent.. let me make it even worse: Im an 18 year old male that has only been in 1 relationship, said relationship "lasted" 4 years.. you'll see why i put qoutes on there.
I was raised to be extremely honest and well mannered, and to absolutely despise relationships before marriage as a muslim child. My mother was extremely strict about it and i wasnt complaining, i had every intention to follow her words.. well until i met her, lets call her valerie. Yes i stole the whole fake name thing from animated YouTubers come at me.. but this doesnt sound like a vent so far does it? Well.. context is important and i dont want to sound like a slave to someone i met online so you have to understand when i met her, out of anyone ive met before even those who have asked me out i just felt something stronger then anything ive felt before. Around her i felt safe, protected and cared for. Like everything was going to be alright no matter what happens or what has happened, her presence calmed me and i wanted to be with her for the rest of my life and provide her with the most i can give in return for making me feel genuinely happy. I never planned to do it but.. i confessed, just couldn't help it. And she denied me. I'll skip over the details but she then got into a relationship which i supported helping her new partner be the best they can be for her because all i cared about was Valerie being happy. Not my own desires, and despite my best efforts that relationship only lasted a week, because after that she confessed to me.
Que the honey moon phase in 2019, best year of my life.. i was always there for her and so was she, wed talk from right as we opened our eyes in the morning till one of us passes out.. this went on a while, until 2020.. she started becoming more distant, dissapearing without a word for hours to days to weeks and sometimes months. But i never questioned it, always welcomed her back with a smile like the naive little pet dog i was.. i help up promises for her, shed constantly forget about hers. Our conversations started getting drier and drier, but i never cared. All i wanted was her to be there. And for her to be happy. I never knew relationships were meant to be a back and forth and even if i did, i dont think i would've changed anything back then.
Shed grow even more distant, running away whenever a serious topic comes up.. and then she comes and tells me her parents saw our texts and are forcing her to block me. Despite all the red flags i believed her, and we went our seperate ways until months later i couldn't take it and took a friend's account just to talk with her. Then she unblocked my account and we continued normally
Months later.. i wake up and go to tell her good morning.. and my message appears to be blocked, i check her name and all i see is deleted user and a bunch of numbers... i wanted to believe i was dreaming but no, i started panicking and later crying. She was my only source of happiness, i had nothing else and no one else. For the coming months i worried about her, did her parents find out again and do something more severe, was she hurt by something i did, did someone do something to her, was i just not good enough. All questions that filled my mind.. for 7 months, loneliness, crying in bed out of the sheer hallow feeling of solitude, having that bond suddenly shattered broke me because she was the only thing keeping me standing from all the bullshit that goes on in my life no matter how small or serious she was there for me, now i have no one. But i was loyal to our promises, promises that i held dearly in hopes shed ever return. I didnt know what to do with myself, i started writing right before she left but never got to show her and immeditaly lost all motivation to write, i tried seeking my friends for comfort but even the sweetest words fell flat on me, hugs felt shallow and venting felt empty. 7 months of agony and loyalty to my first relationship.
And after those seven months, i found her, her steam account. But i couldn't add her myself and there was this whole thing about trying to get someone else's account or have someone else message her for me which took longer then it shouldve but by the time i reached her, my desperate ass received words that cut like a knife..
She was saying that she wanted me to stop trying to get to her because I'm making a scene by trying to reach her friends to reach her, she said she was trying to "move on.." when she was the one that left. She ignored any of my words and continued repeating that we cant work and cant talk that i need to go, find other things other people. I was blind, i was shaking.. i was crying my eyes out because i needed her, i know how pathetic that is now.. but understand at the time she was everything to me.
I sent her something... significant to us. And she didnt even acknowledge it. I left that night really not knowing what i feel at all. She gave me false hope saying shed return to one of our servers one day. Which i foolishly believed. I started having doubts but i still stayed loyal, bumping our server to be sure she can see it if shed ever return, my friends were telling me to move on from the very beggining, the most common sense stuff and i ignored all of it like a dumbass. It was my fualt for not seeing the red flags but this was my first relationship.. i dont know, i started having different questions. Did she ever love me or care for me, did she find someone else, was she using me this whole time, was i too blind to notice. All questions i genuinely hated having at all it hurt but it was all i could think of. Skip two(almost three) years and my state continued to heal and deteriorate but i was growing, tried being with other people but.. it felt like i was lying to myself and them just saying "i love you" it didnt feel right, i constantly felt like i was cheating even after years, i always said no one could ever take her place and when i tried i didnt feel love i felt fucking pain. The heartache..
But eventually, about around october of 2021, she joined the server. I didnt notice, infact she dmed me with some not so subtle messages but i was so far gone and lost all hope that i ignored it and just talked to her like a stranger. I even announced to those who cared that hey, i finally moved on. And just after that fucking achievement she shows her face.. i didnt know if i was happy or upset, i definitely felt fucking livid but at the same time.. relief?
I got her to reveal who she is after finding out, she tried avoiding it but i wouldn't let her go. It didnt feel real, i felt.. nothing, she said she was back to say sorry.. after 3 fucking years. And like the complacent bitch i was i gave her a chance, said i was there but i wouldn't do anything like the old days, i wouldnt carry conversations or even start them. If she wanted to talk to me shed have to do it herself.. after years of staring at her steam account at night to feel something and finally stopping that habit.. i still started conversations first with her because i wanted to, so much had happened and i wanted her to catch up i.. yeah.. even with her promise she for 3 fucking months continued to ghost me and do literally nothing, dry and couldn't give less of a shit in action despite her words.. after that i just didnt have any excuse and confronted her, asking if she ever even cared about me, asking why shes back at all if she can't even say hi for a whole week straight, i was angry and sad but i just wanted answers. I was always the only one who gave real effort, i let go of what i wanted time and time again so that she can hsve what she wants. I waited a day and got my reply
She said she didnt feel we owe eachother anything, she downplayed the promises ive kept for her even after 3 years, she couldnt care less that i was loyal when she wasnt even here, she talked about how her life was a hassle and even talked about a crush of hers that she cant see anymore, i dont care how fucked up your life may be theres a place and time and how she phrased it just hurt. She said that she doesnt know if she wants to continue or not and that i "dont make it easy" DONT MAKE IT EASY!?... that fucking line stuck with me.. my gut reaction was to support her and sympathise with her even though what she mentioned as tragic was trivial at best, i said we dont have to be anything to eachother and that we can start on a new blank page because the side of me that just wants her to be happy was still not dead somehow.. the next day i was at school taking an exam and all i could feel was the fucking anger from her text and my own reply, i couldnt take it i felt fucking hatred and swore right as i went home id tell her off and block her. Which i did, im not satisfied with my final message.. it wasnt rude compared to her speach and i didnt mention everything i wanted to.. but i dont care anymore, why should i put so much effort into someone who could give less of a shit about me...
Now when i feel alone and miss her, i dont miss Valerie. I miss the connection we had, that feeling of safety and the image of someone who really does care. The things that reminded me of her no longer reminds me of her because the person i imagined before wasnt her.. it was my own fantasy.. i gave her too much credit for the lies she kept telling and now i just.. i dont know.. the loneliness still consumes me but at least ive grown
This is a story just as much as it is a vent, please if you're in a relationship or are thinking of getting into one dont forget yourself.. please.. it'll hurt so much more in the future you have no idea.. place boundaries have needs that they need to fullfill but be reasonable. I wish i was..

I don't know if this has to do with my FAW status (but I'm guessing it does to a large extent), but men in general have been rude or ignorant towards me my entire life. Of course, I'm not generalizing that all men are like that, but MOST men, ENOUGH men have been disrespectful or ignorant towards me for God-knows-how-long.
I'm attending college right now, and istg the amount of times male professors/tutors have straight up ignored me or berated me (yes, that happened in front of an entire class/group multiple times) has been draining. There was even this one time a male tutor deliberately finished up a tutoring session earlier than the expected finish time (even though I was paying him for the full session) to go and tutor some other girl lmfao. And don't even get me started on male classmates.
College wasn't the only time I've felt this way. The men in my family, especially my father, seemed to have hate ingrained in their DNA. To my father, I have always been a disappointment. I remember thinking that my father hated or regretted having me at 9 years old. I wish I could've been nicer to myself back then, knowing all the hatred that was lying in wait for me in the future.
No matter the profession or my relation to them, most males in my life have always made me feel like utter incomprehensible shit. I try my best to look as normal as possible, and I'm most definitely an introvert (and hence don't try to get into situations that I know would harm me), but assholes like these will somehow always find a way to ruin my day.
I don't want this to come off as a "I hate all men" kinda post, because I certainly do not. This is just my experience with majority of the males I have met or interacted with in my life.
On a side note, I've noticed that these same men will fall heads over heels to help or be kinder to an attractive woman - in college, restaurants, airplanes, stores, literally anywhere.
I know the phrase that "attractive people don't know who to trust" because most people are nicer towards them (but may also have some motive behind their interactions - hence their behavior towards said attractive people and the reason behind this qoute), but I'd just like to experience what it feels like to be appreciated or respected from the opposite sex - just once. Even if it's delusional, really.

As an outsider, it's been quite the ride seeing the souls series grow so much over the years.
It all starts when the armored core devs want to make a game unlike any other. Apparently it plays alot like kings field whatever that is. It isn't really understood much at the time. It leads to a mixed reception and a fallout with sony entertainment. However it gains a dedicated audience.
Some years later. A new relationship is made with bandai namco after no one else wanted to publish theirs games. The dark souls series is born. It becomes a successful trilogy with more games on the way
During the time. The souls games had something of a negative reputation. Some folks considered souls games to be bad and only was popular so tryhard elitists can show off how great they are at games meanwhile some fans were really rude towards newcomers where classic staples like "git gud scrub" & "the dark souls of [insert game]" were born.
It got so bad that the discussion of a easy mode became such a toxic ground for gatekeeping tryhards & fans that just wanted to enjoy the game. It would besome of the worst topics in a fandom would ever have until other fandoms succeeded it.
Other fans were busy with lore discovery and watching guide videos and encouraging each other with warm bonfire posts.
Bloodborne is then released despite some doubt from journalists and pundits that didn't think fromsoft could succeed in making a new ip becuase dark souls was qoute a fluke'. It later becomes touted as the best game on the ps4
Other things happen in the meantime. Dark souls is released on switch with a special pack in amiibo. Numerous souls-like games appear and many more likely to come. Heavily inspired series Nioh becomes a moderate success and onogong series in the emerging souls like sub genre of games.
Sekiro releases to critical acclaim. Published by a company that thinks single player games while pushing call of duty on a yearly basis. An infamous copypasta is born out of a tryhard sekiro fan after seeing a journalist cheat the final boss of the game. origins here
Demon souls is remade bringing fromsofts jouurney full circle. Sony regrets not buying fromsoft for cheap when they had the chance, pays a big bill to get the first demons souls remade.
And now finally we get to Elden Ring. A game that is essentially the peak of everything fromsoft has been through, after following so niche failures and slowly building a name for themselves. They are finally able to make a game without compromise. No budget limitations or publisher meddling just their own imagination and human capabilities.
Fromsoft has truely been through it all as a developer. They have truly mastered their craft, there is no other mountain to climb. They have beaten the dark souls of game development. The only thing left to do is to just work on their other series. Am i right Armored core fans or am i right?
Major respects for Miyzaki, he truly became one of the greats kf gaming and from all the love hype and passion born from elden ring made all the way back from demon souls. It is truly.something special to beheld

I play in PH server and guess what... Everybody is toxic :/
So here are toxic types based on my experience(tankmain), the first ones are mildly/small amount of toxicity and the end are the more severe ones.
•The noisy: Chats every 2 seconds, says hahaha when he kills someone or when he dies
•The simp: flirt 24/7 yet still dont know how to play the game, keeps asking for a GF, (we get it bro you're a virgin)
•The bad day: rude because of a lose streak
•The TP'er: I dont have to explain this :/
•The arrogant: Trashtalks when he/she does an outplay, flashes his skins in rank
•The qoute on qoute Gamer Girl(not sterotyping girls): turns on the mic, have 0-10-3 score and only says "uwu" and does'nt give a shit about callouts >:(
•The Toxic asf core: tries to 1v5 and dies, blames team for it
•The GGEZ: Only says GGEZ either late game or in the score section, and when they lose, completely silent
•Toxic MM: needs the tank 24/7 and pins every team mistake on thw tank(this is slightly to personal for me)
•The game mechanic Idiot: Complains if the enemy Pushes, Gets lord or gets turtle, Starts crying if killed by a 3v1, Complains about campers,
•The blame: Trashtalks the teams while having double digit death count
•The next level trashtalk: Includes trashtalking your life family and profile _ _ Might have missed some (•-•)/

Please turn on your VR headsets, google glasses ain’t gonna cut it. Strap yourself down, best to have your computer automated voice it so you can close your eyes. Ok? I'mma have to ask you to strap in and on for an adventure. Seriously, since I Preesume you do not have Advanced BDSM gear in your basement, go into your car and buckle yourself in.
trigger obligatory warning
secondary warning sats 10seconds are required in a trigger warning to let someone's free will catch up to their curiosity killed the cat woman in a wheelchair people rolling and they won't stop. Thats the emoji of the day.
Skip 2 beneath the wheelchair people if A. the men in the van are coming fast B. If you already have a proficient data collection on the whathows and the whatthens. You got to dig through this pile of shit to get to the diamond except instead of a diamond it just a smaller harder turdsical but it is spherical and hollow so is proposeable material
If you are familiar with the Mozart Effect, the same is achieved with Lana Del Rey Instrumental Album Version,"Honeymoon" is the choice but I'm bloviating. I'll keep this 2nd transmission short. I only have such a large window of time. The portal is closing like in a "pre-post fart sphincter" which you can see in the slow mo guys youtube channel in slow-motion. Enough. My prelude no.2 ends now. This revelation came to me today while waking up from my Kavalactone minor hangover (10/10 rec) when I decided to start my day with a Louder with Crowder change my mind vid because youtube has me pegged, which is gay, as a conservative because I've been watching less Art videos and more gun videos. It's the media man. That's it. That's your trigger word for the next mission. Operation Thunderbird is goin down and if you read this far u r in it id u like it or not 4, in contrast stark to the Malcolm X qoute:
For those not familiarize with: "The Revolution will NOT be Televised."History Lesson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZvWt29OG0s&ab_channel=MediaBurnArchive
Fuck I can't find the "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" Tag line, it happens right before the song rolls on but evidently all the uploaders of danny phantom vids have retardations, I've flicked through like 5 different edits and I am done, now im on a rule 34 male version and im not happy about it, worse than sissy hypno porn
So fuck it, I know im working with an age range where atleast 3, (id bet 100 bucks unironically) got a boner or popped a B as a like to call it 2 the ghost girl in question. This is the non OG OG edited with 3d animation added song. Im seething at how constipated the "Phandom" is with thei shit. I'm done. I'm writing this posthumously nigstar so strap in and on for nostalgia and wet dream ptsd
memory, of wet bed where grandma said she's cut that thing off if you made a mess wessy again. Like in the origin story 4 the Red Dragon 4rom hannibal 4rom Silence of the Lambs who has an autobiographical account of how he got into writing because of Vladimir's Lolita. Said he shot a blank upon reading the book at like a decade old. Like clinton sex slave age. Nevertheless..... the feature presentation
4 those in the know who read the summer required reading list, the one's whose mother's cut up fruit like banana slices in their youth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBMOc24_aIw&ab_channel=WorthlessToaster
if the memory doesn't come back youve been men in blacked to many times.
mindwiped out of it, you got blacked out while your future wife is getting blacked now and their is nothing you can do about it.

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The media (that is in the hands of the liberal ideologues over-all, by media I mean not simply CNN v FOX. I'm talking Hollywood, the people who put the art in your local galleries, movies in the big theatre that has now come to our own houses via Covid desperation and Jeff Bezos the mega lord of Amazon. The Industry that puppets all else that encircles it, PC is in. Advertising is woke. Some of it is good. Some of it is less so, virtue signaling with the blatancy you can expect from Louis CK and his masturbation habits:
Celebrity worship has replaced theism and the gospel they speak from is that of the ever changing politically correct race and gender (nuerodivergancy, advocates, class divisionists who advocate for reasonable shit on the surface like people having access to basic ER visits (Obamacare and Obama Phone v socialized medicine. Why didn't he make it right?)
So Black Power Heil Hitler Bomb Palestine Nuke North Korea Save the Whales and the Jews Reparations from the Germans Now
Antifa Bash the Fash Bernie Boys and
Mine the line, the fetus is mine and the line is my line and the fetus is fine
And school shooter Narrative lez gooo
Take 7 kids from Columbine
Put em all in a line add an ak47, Mac 11, a Revolver and a 9ine
The Columbine kids were bullies, outsiders
The Columbine kids were high in the social hierarchy, "outcasts" by their own design" by making a cool kidz club called the Trench Coat Mafia
Look up Elliot Rodger: autistic, asian, incel, vlogger, YT vids upon vids archived endlessly because he was a daily vlogger just like the other youtube stars including: (untreated psychiatrically as well except a trip to a doc for 30 mins in and out where they hand em an SSRI, standardized dose 4 everybody, one size fits all: correlation causation: Columbine Kids? On SSRIs. Big Pharma 4.
And you've definitely not heard of these because the narrative finds it icky vickt inconveniencing:
ANDREW BLAZE aka Randy Stair aka Daily Vlogger aka advid Danny Phantom fan aka "The Ember Killer" aka the "Weiss Market Shooter'
who went full harakira suicide after he blasted himself with one of the 2 pump shotguns that I believe were mossbergs outfitted with his tacticool (with her tacticool, im have the same conundrum as I do with Chris Chan and pronouns but I digress, let it be known i went to a liberal fart HS who was 5 years ahead of the rest of the world with their non binary enby pronouns, they put on plays each morning where they would act out "what you are non binary, your gender is a boy? I dated you! I'm a guy. Does that mean I'm Gay? I'm not Gay!!!" Best friends SO was Non binary, perfectly nice person, never fucked up by using she instead of they, personally respect thee (i like that, lets go back to old english thee thou art thy who art in Heaven hollow be they name. Amen to that. I'll drink some blood red wine" not the blood wine epstein and clinton drink with the chinese virgin sex slaves who after the "party" and then take out all their organs and sell them to put politicians who are on the headlist of organ transplants because why would they not be?
Oh boy, listening to this vid rn during my rant of rants and 47:00 is a real zoowee mama, I mean I'd date her in a hot minute and drop 60 bucks on drinks easy and pay for her uber to leave b4 she gets any ideas that are "pre-marrital" solid 6/10 on the "I'm on tinder and whale watching is a sport I ought not need to play, weed me out as a under 6 ft manlet please so that I can get somebody who isn't over 20pds heavier than I. I bring em to the park and the teeter totter doesn't lie buddy. Like my friend who gave me a story about the girl who wore the fat compression belt (which was awkward as they did the dance with no pants and it hand to come off, one skill to take a galls over the shoulder boulder holder off, another to take off her boa contrictor real life photoshop warp tool, you know? Anyway he bragged to be about how he went down to get take out and felt something leave her and be now in his mouth. He simply got up stoically. Went over to the dorm's kitchen sink and spit it out: the eggy discharge since it was her Moon recently of concurrently, and like a G goes back to bizness. All for her to say at the end when they near departure, post coital, fat belt reengaged, "you know" referencing the event "that Was Really RUDE You Know.
absolute gall, no shame, what was he supposed to do? swallow it? swallow the cyst or concentration of shedding into what felt like a tiny jawbreaker? I'd have spit that back in. I'd have also not been in that position for as a reformed germaphobe ehose hands were red raw and wouldn't drink my disney world milk shake cause my dad took a sip, I wasn't being a little shit or mad. I was just phobic and it was not fucking happening.
Anyway,
I lost the plot, fuc, oh yeah,
Elliot Rodger, Andrew Blaze who performed a Jihad as to be reincarnated as a women in the Ghost Zone (danny phantom canon based afterlife where he would hang with Ember, all his OCs,
with his ghostt pussy they would reunite. On the otherside
His gender dysphoria was left untreated, he could have used a a minor tranquilizer, talk therapy more importantly or perhaps CBT. No not cock and ball torture. You're sick. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Though I could see him bein' privy to the first.
But that wasn't going to happen because his parents were completely blind to his attempts to show them, stating how he would wear woman's clothe to some degree in plain sight yet his parents paid little attention. I mean, his webseries/animation, his vlogs and AMVs and the STILL ACTIVE EGS,(Ember's Ghost Squad) who see him as the leademartyr.) was all he worked on. And he's work this like a 9 to 5 job for years. The parents never lookin' at it.
Well they watched em all in bulk after he pumped out and killed two of his fellow employees that he wasn't reported to have anything personal against. Or it was 3. I forget is the 3 kills adds his suicide or not. It was a offering to the hot chick ghost goth mommy dom dream gf Butch Fartman wrote 4 Dany Phantom. We were promised goth girls and grew up to the emo age and to make it worse Scott Pilgrim vs. the World came out of the Weinstein Epstein Zone, Hollywood.
What a surprise the story of a transexual who documented the whole experience himself like the autismo Elliot Roger the incel did.
And last but not least. We never speak of the Youtube HQ Shooter. Now, provided I can make a pretty good guess what demographic makes up here, I'm sure you're on Youtube well enough. Yet people don't even remember the fucking website getting attacked because the middle eastern woman (As Sam said:) I don't want to make any jokes, want to approach this with reverence. This is sad and it sucks, "but... if I were gonna write book," about a middle eastern female shooter,
"that's what I'd call a Plot Twist.
Here is your recompense being raw from reading:
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This post is a continuation of my previous post. please, read that one first for the full context. Beware for spoilers for Maplestade's vengeance and Please don't comment if you haven't read the entire post! I'm not here to keep repeating myself over and over again bc you didn't bother to read this through.
previous part: https://www.reddit.com/thedawnpatrol/comments/odklhwhy_mapleshade_did_deserve_everything_she_got/
(also, sorry for posting this later than promissed. My cousin unexpectidly bought a horse yesterday, and with my family, including me, being absolutly crazy when it comes to horses, we all wanted to see the new mare XD.)
So, we left off at the beginning of Chapter 4. Maple has just been an absolute prick to Ravenwing, and comes back to camp with her tired and hungry kittens and is greeted with an angry Oakstar.
Oakstar asks Mapleshade in public who the father of her kits is, Frecklewish jumps in to defend her friend, saying that it's already known it's Birchface. Oakstar repeats his question, and Mapleshade continues to ignore him, saying he should be proud for her kits. Ravenwing is again forced to make her confess, as she doesn't take the responsibility to do so for the second time that day. Frecklewish gets angry at her and lashes out, obviouslty strucken by shock and a fresh wave of grieve. Now, i just wanna clearify that i don't think Frecklewish had any right to get agressive without first hearing Mapleshade out. But this is honestly the only thing she really did wrong in this story. And it's very outweighted by the things Mapleshade does to her later in the book. Frecklewish continues by calling Mapleshade out for lying to her and her clan, saying she is disloyal and shamed her brother's name. She demands Mapleshade and her kits should be driven out of camp. Mapleshade responds to this by saying she is a queen, and therefor, should be respected.(Yeah, sorry Maple but in order to get respect you kinda need to give respect. And you are not doing a whole lot of that).

"You have betrayed my brother's name!" Frecklewish spat. "You have betrayed us all with your lies and disloyalty. You don't deserve to be called a warrior, and nor do those... those half-clan creatures." ... ... "Their father killed Birchface and Flowerpaw! Get them out of here!" Mapleshade shook scarlet droplets onto the grass. "Why does it matter who their father is?" she demanded furiously. "I have given ThunderClan three fine kits. I am a queen and I should be treated with respect. StarClan knows we need more Warriors, and here they are!"

Although Frecklewish's response is definatly not appropriate, again, Maple does not take her feelings as something valid and acts like she should be treated as a hero for breaking the code. This response will only result in an even angrier response from the other party.
Oakstar comes down and tells Mapleshade that she must leave the clan, as he won't allow the children of his son's murderer to be raised within the bourders of ThunderClan. He also speaks of the Omen Ravenwing had, and banishes them. Frecklewish And Bloomheart agree with his dessision, and Mapleshade tries to speak out to Bloomheart.

"Oakstar's right, they don't belong here," growled Bloomheart. Mapleshade stared at the gray tabby in horror. "You were my mentor, Bloomheart! You know I would never betray my Clan!" "You already have," he replied gruffly. "I am ashamed of you."

Mapleshade's response was again, a guilttrip and selfcentered. She, like always, acts like she did nothing wrong. And she tries others to agree with her by making them feel guilty about going against her.
As Mapleshade realises she's lost the arguement, she vows revenge on ThunderClan and leaves with her kits. Now, i wanted to make it clear that i don't think Thunderclan was in the right for kicking the kits out as well. They can't do anything about the fact that their father is from another clan, and should not be punished for it either. Also, by kicking out the kits as well, the Clan itself also breaks one of the rules. So yeah, Oakstar was definatly not innocent as well for allowing this to happen. I also wanted to add that Ravenwing was not fully in the right either. But he is a bit more complecated, as a medicine cat, he has two codes to follow. The Warrior code and the Medicine cat code. He knew Maple's kits would suffer if he told Oakstar about Maple's relation with Appledusk, so if he tells Oakstar, he'd be breaking the "kits must be safe" rule from the warrior code. But if he didn't tell him, he'd be breaking the rule that tells him to follow StarClan from the medicine cat code. And as he got a sign telling him there were three things in ThunderClan that belong with the river, well, it must have been hard on him. So, it honestly depends what rule is more important to him, following StarClan or the warrior code. He ultimatly chose for following Starclan. so yeah, his decision was defenitly not the best, but he would have broken at least one rule either way it went. But again, all of this is way outweighted by what Maple will do in the short future. Along with that the fact that if Maple hadn't lied, and treated the others with more respect, she might have had a little less extreme punishment. But she let the cats believe her kits were Birchface's for over two moons, and when she was questioned about it she didn't even have the decency to properly confess her mistakes or even take into concideration that other cats have feelings too.
Now that that's out of the way, let's continue.
So, by now it's raining pretty hard, her kits are tired, confused and sad. They have all sorts of questions for Mapleshade, but she tells them she'll explain everything later. She tells them they are going to the river. When the kits start to complain about wanting to be somewhere dry, like the nurcery, Mapleshade shouts out at them saying they have no home. She leads them to the river, telling them they don't need to cross all the way. She tells them they'll use the stepping stones to cross, so they would only need to swim short amonds of times. I will ad to this that in the line before she says this, it's said the stepping stones were barely sticking out of the water. It is also said that it was raining so hard Mapleshade had to close her eyes. In different words, it's storming too hard to cross the river normally. Before sending her kits into the river for the second time that day, she tells them Appledusk is their father. Petalkit is the first one she sends in. It's stated he went under almost instantly, and had to struggle to stay above water. After this, she sents in her other two kits as well and follows soon after. They don't even get to cross to the second steppingstone before a giant wave sweeps all four of them into the water.
Before i am going to go further with the next part, i wanted to make it clear that during several points in this whole sequence of events, Maple could have realised crossing the river with tired and hungry kits during a storm wasn't a good idea. If she desperatly wanted to go to RiverClan, she could have taken the bridge which was somewhere nearby. She could also have gone to Twoleg place, rested there over night and continued her journey the next day. As she could cross the border to Twolegplace in ThunderClan, stayed there over night, and crossed the border again the next day at the RiverClan side of it. She could also have crossed to Shadow or WindClan, which also both would have been less risky. Both Shadow and WindClan are on good terms with ThunderClan in this book, while Riverclan isn't. Sure, her mate was in Riverclan, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to cross over to enemy territory to seek shelter. She had several options, but due to her mind being fixed on Riverclan, she didn't see or want to see them. And when it was obvious it was too dangerous for at least her kits, she also pushed those signs away, only thinking about herself and wanting to be with her mate. This is what lead to her demise and the bad luck that slapped her in the face once she set foot in the raging river.
So, after the wave stuck them, Maple managed to get back to the stepping stones, but her kits were drifting away from it. She followed them and managed to get a grip on Patchkit, but he seemed to be either uncounchious or already dead, Maple tried to wake him up to no avail and than tried to drag him with her to the next kit she heard, Larchkit. However, upon trying to save Larchkit as well, she lost her grip on Patchkit, loosing him, Larchkit also lost his footing and both were lost again in the water.

A pale shape bobbed in front of her. She reached out and managed to hook one claw into soddon fur. It was Patchkit. His eyes closed. "Wake up!" Mapleshade screeched. "You have to swim!" A faint mew came from somewhere beside her. Mapleshade lifted her head and peered through the waves. Larchkit was clinging to a branch that hung in the river.

After her failed attampts to rescue her kits, a voice calls out to her, saying she needs to grab onto a branch. This was Appledusk. He came into the river to save her. She gets dragged out of the water and two warriors join them. Appledusk asks where the kits are and she tells him they are in the river, after which all three riverCLan warriors go to search for them.

"My kits," Mapleshade rasped. "Save... my kits." Appledusk's face appeared above her, his eyes huge with horror. "Are you telling me the kits are in the river?" Mapleshade nodded, too weak to speak. Eeltail was already bounding along the shore. "If kits are in there, they are going to be in big trouble!" She called over her shoulder. Splashfoot raced after her. Appledusk crouched beside Mapleshade. "I will find them, I promise," he whispered. Than raced away from her.

So, one of the most common arguements against Appledusk i find, besides the whole cheating thing, is that he just watched Mapleshade's kits die. And that is just a wrong statement! As the qoute above clearly says, he almost immidiatly went looking for them after he heard they were in the river. I don't know where people get the idea from that he just watched the kits die? There is literally no point in this whole book in which it's mentioned Appledusk watched any of them die.
So now that this misconseption is out of the way, let's continue as we still have a lot to go over.
Mapleshade is left alone and rests for a bit, until Appledusk comes to get her. He tells her they found her kits and leads her to the river shore, where Eeltail tells her they couldn't save them. For the first time in this whole book, Mapleshade actually feels kind of guilty. As she comes to the realisation she, in fact, is the cause of their deaths. But before she can properly blame their deaths on her own doing, Appledusk asks her if she delibratly tried to cross the river. To which Mapleshade explains their exile. They agree they should take the dead kits and Mapleshade to Darkstar, even though Apple isn't too fond of that idea.
Once in RiverClan camp, Reedshine is the first one to meet Appledusk, asking him if someone fell in the river, and if he's okay. She realises Mapleshade is there and ask what she's doing inthe RiverClan camp, and what's going on. Darkstar comes to see what's happening and Appledusk confesses to be the fahter of the death kits. Mapleshade thinks about how Appledusk should plead for her and ask Darkstar if she could stay.

Appledusk stepped foreward. "These kits have drowned in the river," he announced. Ask me their names! Mapleshade screeched silently. Appledusk looked at his paws. "I... I am their father." Mapleshade held her breath. This was Appledusk's chance to plead for mercy on her behalf, to explain that Mapleshade deserved to be given a place in RiverClan because she had borne his kits.

In my opinion, this was w very selfish thought, like most of Mapleshade's thoughts. The way she thinks about this makes it seem as if she just sees Appledusk as something she ownes. You could debate rather or not Appledusk should have defended Maple, with the risk of losing his clan and living with someone he obviously blames for the death of his kits, or if he should have done what he did in the actual book. Drop Maple and live his life further in Riverclan. I won't set foot into that debate however, as both sides suck to defend. However, i will say i do think Appledusk's response was kinda uncalled for. He was like, way to harsh. Though I do understand his POV.
We all know what happened after Apple confessed he fathered Maple's kits. Darkstar asks him what's going on and he tells the clan mating with Mapleshade was a mistake. Mapleshade has some more self pity and thinks about how Darkstar must let her stay and how it's Appledusk is blaming her for the kits death, which, at this point she obviously has shoved the blame away from her like she always does. Darkstar questions Appledusk's loyalty, and Reedshine steps in to defnd him. Darkstar allows him to stay and orders the kits to be burried properly, as they could not help being half-clan. Mapleshade asks if she can stay as well, to which Darkstar declares that no, she can't stay as what she has done is unforgivable. Mapleshade tries to argue that night is about to fall, and than tries to get Appledusk on her side, but as no one shows pity for her. So she vow, for the second time that night, that they'll pay for what they did to her, and runs away. She ends up in a barn of some sorts and falls asleep.
Now, again, i am going to give maple some defence here. I do think darkstar should have let her stay there for one night. Give her a chance to properly say good bye to her kits and let her emotions calm down, than sent her away the next day. I don't think it would have made much of a differnce in the long run, but i do think it's the least the could have done for a grieving mother. Even if that mother is a disrespectful, selfish bitch that got her own kits killed by stupid, brainless actions. (My dislike for maple got through, i'm sorry for that).
Mapleshade wakes up the next day with a fever, she is greeted by Myler, the barncat. he offers her fresh prey, shelter and help, but she responds to this in her usual rude manner and leaves. She thinks about how she did nothing wrong and how unfair her life is, and about the kits she lost, on her way to wherever her paws are leading her. She goes to the Thunderclan border, this time, using the bridge cause wow, this safe route across the water exists! Finding even more excuses as to why her kit's death is not her fault, and than decides to blame it all on Ravenwing.

Ravenwing! This was all his fault. He had jumped to conclusions, shattered the Clan's trust in her, forced her Clanmates to judge her for something beyond her control. Because of his actions, Patchkit, Larchkit and Petalkit had died. Every breath that Ravenwing took was a breath he had denied Mapleshade's kits.

^In this whole paragraph Mapleshade just denied the fact she literally told Ravenwing she was with Appledusk, acts like being with Appledusk and than lying about it is out of her own control, acts like Ravenwing didn't give her any chances to properly confess in a respectful way and acts like she didn't actually force her kits to swim instead of taking any safe route. I have heard this sentance more than necessary from Maple defenders. This is just Mapleshade being delusional and shifting the blame away from her. It's her made up version of the reality she lives in so she doesn't need to feel guilty. That doesn't mean it's a reliable source of information. In fact, it's everything besides that. As like i said, she made it up right than and there to shift the blame away from her. Before going of an what a character thinks, maybe try to look into the actual roots, as sometimes, you'll find the roots are way different from the thoughts of a character.
After this, Maple keeps walking, and eventually finds herself under a Hollybush where she falls asleep. Nettlepaw finds her and tells her she's not supposed to be there. She doesn't drive her away though, and instead asks her where her kits are. Mapleshade says they drowned, and Nettlepaw shows sympathy for her. She goes to fetch the herbs she was gathering for Ravenwing and gives them to Mapleshade, saying Mapleshade's smell made it seem like she needed them. She also mentions the fact that Frecklewish saw Mapleshade nad her kits try to cross the river. Maple asks Nettlepaw If she really saw everything, to which Nettlepaw replied with that she was just making sure Mapleshade lef thte territory, and then left. Though she did see Maple fall into the river. But since there were Riverclan warriors already jumping in to save her, she thought she couldn't do anything. Mapleshade is angry about this, and Nettlepaw gets called by someone, so she leaves.
Another arguement people love to discuss about. Frecklewish should have done something. Now i'm going to ask you, what should she do? Jump in after Mapleshade, she can't swim, so she'd just pull a Flowerpaw and drown. Shout out to the RiverClan warriors? Wouldn't be of much use as RiverClan had already seen what happened and was already going to the rescue. Mapleshade was already trying to cross when Frecklewish arived, so telling her it's a dumb idea also wouldn't be of much help. Run back to camp and fetch help? what than, by the time She'd be back, Riverclan would already have ended the search. On top of that there's the fact that i don't think a lot of Thunderclan cats would be willing to help her. And even if Frecklewish somehow found a way to help, both she-cats were pissed at one another. chances of it breaking out in a fight are big. And i don't think that would have saved anyone, especially not if Maple managed to get the upper hand on Freckle and seriously wound her or even kill her in front of a patrol of Riverclan warriors. Even if you want Frecklewish to do something, there wasn't a lot she could do. The only thing she really could do was either just, stand there and actually watch Maple's kits die, or go back to camp and report Maple leaving to Riverclan. I personally don't really know what to think of this one. On one hand, i do think Freckle is kind of guilty for just watching Maple fall into the river, on the other hand i can literally not come up with anything that she could have done to get a better result. So, i am honestly going to let this one slip through as Freckle eing "gray". I also don't think Maple was justified at all to kill her over this. But that's something I will talk about in most likely a 3th or 4th part, as this one is draging on as well.
I am going to end this part with quickly going through the last few pages of Chapter 5. Mapleshade decides she'll make Ravenwing pay for "what he has done to her". She notices it's only a day more until the medicine cats gather for their Half-moon meating with StarClan, so she heads off to Mothermouth. On her way there she spents the night in WindClan territory, after she got away with catching a rabbit right from under the noses of a WindClan patrol. She heads further down the trial to the Mothermouth when she wakes up. She catches a mole and makes herslef ready for confronting Ravenwing. She also decides that since she can't be a warriora anymore, she'll spent the rest of her life avanging the death of her kits.
So, that was the end of this part. I'm not sure how many parts will follow after this, as the book is pretty rushed, meaning a lot happens in basically no time. So i'll have to see how much i'll be able to go over in the next part. I will try to publish that part in max 2 days. I hope you enjoyed this part and i will see you in the next one!

This post is a continuation of my previous post. please, read that one first for the full context. Beware for spoilers for Maplestade's vengeance and Please don't comment if you haven't read the entire post! I'm not here to keep repeating myself over and over again bc you didn't bother to read this through.
previous part: https://www.reddit.com/WarriorCats/comments/odkis5/why_mapleshade_did_deserve_everything_she_got/
(also, sorry for posting this later than promissed. My cousin unexpectidly bought a horse yesterday, and with my family, including me, being absolutly crazy when it comes to horses, we all wanted to see the new mare XD.)
So, we left off at the beginning of Chapter 4. Maple has just been an absolute prick to Ravenwing, and comes back to camp with her tired and hungry kittens and is greeted with an angry Oakstar.
Oakstar asks Mapleshade in public who the father of her kits is, Frecklewish jumps in to defend her friend, saying that it's already known it's Birchface. Oakstar repeats his question, and Mapleshade continues to ignore him, saying he should be proud for her kits. Ravenwing is again forced to make her confess, as she doesn't take the responsibility to do so for the second time that day. Frecklewish gets angry at her and lashes out, obviouslty strucken by shock and a fresh wave of grieve. Now, i just wanna clearify that i don't think Frecklewish had any right to get agressive without first hearing Mapleshade out. But this is honestly the only thing she really did wrong in this story. And it's very outweighted by the things Mapleshade does to her later in the book. Frecklewish continues by calling Mapleshade out for lying to her and her clan, saying she is disloyal and shamed her brother's name. She demands Mapleshade and her kits should be driven out of camp. Mapleshade responds to this by saying she is a queen, and therefor, should be respected.(Yeah, sorry Maple but in order to get respect you kinda need to give respect. And you are not doing a whole lot of that).

"You have betrayed my brother's name!" Frecklewish spat. "You have betrayed us all with your lies and disloyalty. You don't deserve to be called a warrior, and nor do those... those half-clan creatures." ... ... "Their father killed Birchface and Flowerpaw! Get them out of here!" Mapleshade shook scarlet droplets onto the grass. "Why does it matter who their father is?" she demanded furiously. "I have given ThunderClan three fine kits. I am a queen and I should be treated with respect. StarClan knows we need more Warriors, and here they are!"

Although Frecklewish's response is definatly not appropriate, again, Maple does not take her feelings as something valid and acts like she should be treated as a hero for breaking the code. This response will only result in an even angrier response from the other party.
Oakstar comes down and tells Mapleshade that she must leave the clan, as he won't allow the children of his son's murderer to be raised within the bourders of ThunderClan. He also speaks of the Omen Ravenwing had, and banishes them. Frecklewish And Bloomheart agree with his dessision, and Mapleshade tries to speak out to Bloomheart.

"Oakstar's right, they don't belong here," growled Bloomheart. Mapleshade stared at the gray tabby in horror. "You were my mentor, Bloomheart! You know I would never betray my Clan!" "You already have," he replied gruffly. "I am ashamed of you."

Mapleshade's response was again, a guilttrip and selfcentered. She, like always, acts like she did nothing wrong. And she tries others to agree with her by making them feel guilty about going against her.
As Mapleshade realises she's lost the arguement, she vows revenge on ThunderClan and leaves with her kits. Now, i wanted to make it clear that i don't think Thunderclan was in the right for kicking the kits out as well. They can't do anything about the fact that their father is from another clan, and should not be punished for it either. Also, by kicking out the kits as well, the Clan itself also breaks one of the rules. So yeah, Oakstar was definatly not innocent as well for allowing this to happen. I also wanted to add that Ravenwing was not fully in the right either. But he is a bit more complecated, as a medicine cat, he has two codes to follow. The Warrior code and the Medicine cat code. He knew Maple's kits would suffer if he told Oakstar about Maple's relation with Appledusk, so if he tells Oakstar, he'd be breaking the "kits must be safe" rule from the warrior code. But if he didn't tell him, he'd be breaking the rule that tells him to follow StarClan from the medicine cat code. And as he got a sign telling him there were three things in ThunderClan that belong with the river, well, it must have been hard on him. So, it honestly depends what rule is more important to him, following StarClan or the warrior code. He ultimatly chose for following Starclan. so yeah, his decision was defenitly not the best, but he would have broken at least one rule either way it went. But again, all of this is way outweighted by what Maple will do in the short future. Along with that the fact that if Maple hadn't lied, and treated the others with more respect, she might have had a little less extreme punishment. But she let the cats believe her kits were Birchface's for over two moons, and when she was questioned about it she didn't even have the decency to properly confess her mistakes or even take into concideration that other cats have feelings too.
Now that that's out of the way, let's continue.
So, by now it's raining pretty hard, her kits are tired, confused and sad. They have all sorts of questions for Mapleshade, but she tells them she'll explain everything later. She tells them they are going to the river. When the kits start to complain about wanting to be somewhere dry, like the nurcery, Mapleshade shouts out at them saying they have no home. She leads them to the river, telling them they don't need to cross all the way. She tells them they'll use the stepping stones to cross, so they would only need to swim short amonds of times. I will ad to this that in the line before she says this, it's said the stepping stones were barely sticking out of the water. It is also said that it was raining so hard Mapleshade had to close her eyes. In different words, it's storming too hard to cross the river normally. Before sending her kits into the river for the second time that day, she tells them Appledusk is their father. Petalkit is the first one she sends in. It's stated he went under almost instantly, and had to struggle to stay above water. After this, she sents in her other two kits as well and follows soon after. They don't even get to cross to the second steppingstone before a giant wave sweeps all four of them into the water.
Before i am going to go further with the next part, i wanted to make it clear that during several points in this whole sequence of events, Maple could have realised crossing the river with tired and hungry kits during a storm wasn't a good idea. If she desperatly wanted to go to RiverClan, she could have taken the bridge which was somewhere nearby. She could also have gone to Twoleg place, rested there over night and continued her journey the next day. As she could cross the border to Twolegplace in ThunderClan, stayed there over night, and crossed the border again the next day at the RiverClan side of it. She could also have crossed to Shadow or WindClan, which also both would have been less risky. Both Shadow and WindClan are on good terms with ThunderClan in this book, while Riverclan isn't. Sure, her mate was in Riverclan, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to cross over to enemy territory to seek shelter. She had several options, but due to her mind being fixed on Riverclan, she didn't see or want to see them. And when it was obvious it was too dangerous for at least her kits, she also pushed those signs away, only thinking about herself and wanting to be with her mate. This is what lead to her demise and the bad luck that slapped her in the face once she set foot in the raging river.
So, after the wave stuck them, Maple managed to get back to the stepping stones, but her kits were drifting away from it. She followed them and managed to get a grip on Patchkit, but he seemed to be either uncounchious or already dead, Maple tried to wake him up to no avail and than tried to drag him with her to the next kit she heard, Larchkit. However, upon trying to save Larchkit as well, she lost her grip on Patchkit, loosing him, Larchkit also lost his footing and both were lost again in the water.

A pale shape bobbed in front of her. She reached out and managed to hook one claw into soddon fur. It was Patchkit. His eyes closed. "Wake up!" Mapleshade screeched. "You have to swim!" A faint mew came from somewhere beside her. Mapleshade lifted her head and peered through the waves. Larchkit was clinging to a branch that hung in the river.

After her failed attampts to rescue her kits, a voice calls out to her, saying she needs to grab onto a branch. This was Appledusk. He came into the river to save her. She gets dragged out of the water and two warriors join them. Appledusk asks where the kits are and she tells him they are in the river, after which all three riverCLan warriors go to search for them.

"My kits," Mapleshade rasped. "Save... my kits." Appledusk's face appeared above her, his eyes huge with horror. "Are you telling me the kits are in the river?" Mapleshade nodded, too weak to speak. Eeltail was already bounding along the shore. "If kits are in there, they are going to be in big trouble!" She called over her shoulder. Splashfoot raced after her. Appledusk crouched beside Mapleshade. "I will find them, I promise," he whispered. Than raced away from her.

So, one of the most common arguements against Appledusk i find, besides the whole cheating thing, is that he just watched Mapleshade's kits die. And that is just a wrong statement! As the qoute above clearly says, he almost immidiatly went looking for them after he heard they were in the river. I don't know where people get the idea from that he just watched the kits die? There is literally no point in this whole book in which it's mentioned Appledusk watched any of them die.
So now that this misconseption is out of the way, let's continue as we still have a lot to go over.
Mapleshade is left alone and rests for a bit, until Appledusk comes to get her. He tells her they found her kits and leads her to the river shore, where Eeltail tells her they couldn't save them. For the first time in this whole book, Mapleshade actually feels kind of guilty. As she comes to the realisation she, in fact, is the cause of their deaths. But before she can properly blame their deaths on her own doing, Appledusk asks her if she delibratly tried to cross the river. To which Mapleshade explains their exile. They agree they should take the dead kits and Mapleshade to Darkstar, even though Apple isn't too fond of that idea.
Once in RiverClan camp, Reedshine is the first one to meet Appledusk, asking him if someone fell in the river, and if he's okay. She realises Mapleshade is there and ask what she's doing inthe RiverClan camp, and what's going on. Darkstar comes to see what's happening and Appledusk confesses to be the fahter of the death kits. Mapleshade thinks about how Appledusk should plead for her and ask Darkstar if she could stay.

Appledusk stepped foreward. "These kits have drowned in the river," he announced. Ask me their names! Mapleshade screeched silently. Appledusk looked at his paws. "I... I am their father." Mapleshade held her breath. This was Appledusk's chance to plead for mercy on her behalf, to explain that Mapleshade deserved to be given a place in RiverClan because she had borne his kits.

In my opinion, this was w very selfish thought, like most of Mapleshade's thoughts. The way she thinks about this makes it seem as if she just sees Appledusk as something she ownes. You could debate rather or not Appledusk should have defended Maple, with the risk of losing his clan and living with someone he obviously blames for the death of his kits, or if he should have done what he did in the actual book. Drop Maple and live his life further in Riverclan. I won't set foot into that debate however, as both sides suck to defend. However, i will say i do think Appledusk's response was kinda uncalled for. He was like, way to harsh. Though I do understand his POV.
We all know what happened after Apple confessed he fathered Maple's kits. Darkstar asks him what's going on and he tells the clan mating with Mapleshade was a mistake. Mapleshade has some more self pity and thinks about how Darkstar must let her stay and how it's Appledusk is blaming her for the kits death, which, at this point she obviously has shoved the blame away from her like she always does. Darkstar questions Appledusk's loyalty, and Reedshine steps in to defnd him. Darkstar allows him to stay and orders the kits to be burried properly, as they could not help being half-clan. Mapleshade asks if she can stay as well, to which Darkstar declares that no, she can't stay as what she has done is unforgivable. Mapleshade tries to argue that night is about to fall, and than tries to get Appledusk on her side, but as no one shows pity for her. So she vow, for the second time that night, that they'll pay for what they did to her, and runs away. She ends up in a barn of some sorts and falls asleep.
Now, again, i am going to give maple some defence here. I do think darkstar should have let her stay there for one night. Give her a chance to properly say good bye to her kits and let her emotions calm down, than sent her away the next day. I don't think it would have made much of a differnce in the long run, but i do think it's the least the could have done for a grieving mother. Even if that mother is a disrespectful, selfish bitch that got her own kits killed by stupid, brainless actions. (My dislike for maple got through, i'm sorry for that).
Mapleshade wakes up the next day with a fever, she is greeted by Myler, the barncat. he offers her fresh prey, shelter and help, but she responds to this in her usual rude manner and leaves. She thinks about how she did nothing wrong and how unfair her life is, and about the kits she lost, on her way to wherever her paws are leading her. She goes to the Thunderclan border, this time, using the bridge cause wow, this safe route across the water exists! Finding even more excuses as to why her kit's death is not her fault, and than decides to blame it all on Ravenwing.

Ravenwing! This was all his fault. He had jumped to conclusions, shattered the Clan's trust in her, forced her Clanmates to judge her for something beyond her control. Because of his actions, Patchkit, Larchkit and Petalkit had died. Every breath that Ravenwing took was a breath he had denied Mapleshade's kits.

^In this whole paragraph Mapleshade just denied the fact she literally told Ravenwing she was with Appledusk, acts like being with Appledusk and than lying about it is out of her own control, acts like Ravenwing didn't give her any chances to properly confess in a respectful way and acts like she didn't actually force her kits to swim instead of taking any safe route. I have heard this sentance more than necessary from Maple defenders. This is just Mapleshade being delusional and shifting the blame away from her. It's her made up version of the reality she lives in so she doesn't need to feel guilty. That doesn't mean it's a reliable source of information. In fact, it's everything besides that. As like i said, she made it up right than and there to shift the blame away from her. Before going of an what a character thinks, maybe try to look into the actual roots, as sometimes, you'll find the roots are way different from the thoughts of a character.
After this, Maple keeps walking, and eventually finds herself under a Hollybush where she falls asleep. Nettlepaw finds her and tells her she's not supposed to be there. She doesn't drive her away though, and instead asks her where her kits are. Mapleshade says they drowned, and Nettlepaw shows sympathy for her. She goes to fetch the herbs she was gathering for Ravenwing and gives them to Mapleshade, saying Mapleshade's smell made it seem like she needed them. She also mentions the fact that Frecklewish saw Mapleshade nad her kits try to cross the river. Maple asks Nettlepaw If she really saw everything, to which Nettlepaw replied with that she was just making sure Mapleshade lef thte territory, and then left. Though she did see Maple fall into the river. But since there were Riverclan warriors already jumping in to save her, she thought she couldn't do anything. Mapleshade is angry about this, and Nettlepaw gets called by someone, so she leaves.
Another arguement people love to discuss about. Frecklewish should have done something. Now i'm going to ask you, what should she do? Jump in after Mapleshade, she can't swim, so she'd just pull a Flowerpaw and drown. Shout out to the RiverClan warriors? Wouldn't be of much use as RiverClan had already seen what happened and was already going to the rescue. Mapleshade was already trying to cross when Frecklewish arived, so telling her it's a dumb idea also wouldn't be of much help. Run back to camp and fetch help? what than, by the time She'd be back, Riverclan would already have ended the search. On top of that there's the fact that i don't think a lot of Thunderclan cats would be willing to help her. And even if Frecklewish somehow found a way to help, both she-cats were pissed at one another. chances of it breaking out in a fight are big. And i don't think that would have saved anyone, especially not if Maple managed to get the upper hand on Freckle and seriously wound her or even kill her in front of a patrol of Riverclan warriors. Even if you want Frecklewish to do something, there wasn't a lot she could do. The only thing she really could do was either just, stand there and actually watch Maple's kits die, or go back to camp and report Maple leaving to Riverclan. I personally don't really know what to think of this one. On one hand, i do think Freckle is kind of guilty for just watching Maple fall into the river, on the other hand i can literally not come up with anything that she could have done to get a better result. So, i am honestly going to let this one slip through as Freckle eing "gray". I also don't think Maple was justified at all to kill her over this. But that's something I will talk about in most likely a 3th or 4th part, as this one is draging on as well.
I am going to end this part with quickly going through the last few pages of Chapter 5. Mapleshade decides she'll make Ravenwing pay for "what he has done to her". She notices it's only a day more until the medicine cats gather for their Half-moon meating with StarClan, so she heads off to Mothermouth. On her way there she spents the night in WindClan territory, after she got away with catching a rabbit right from under the noses of a WindClan patrol. She heads further down the trial to the Mothermouth when she wakes up. She catches a mole and makes herslef ready for confronting Ravenwing. She also decides that since she can't be a warriora anymore, she'll spent the rest of her life avanging the death of her kits.
So, that was the end of this part. I'm not sure how many parts will follow after this, as the book is pretty rushed, meaning a lot happens in basically no time. So i'll have to see how much i'll be able to go over in the next part. I will try to publish that part in max 2 days. I hope you enjoyed this part and i will see you in the next one!

Right, so this is a response to a post on WarriorCats about someone saying "Maple deserved StarClan". No, she did not. You, my friend, have been getting the story mixed up. This is exactly what happened to her, and also why she doesn't deserve StarClan. There is no reading between the lines here, no opinionated standpoint (though i do not like her nor her book, i am trying my best to not let my own opinions mingle with facts). I am literally sitting with the book in front of me and telling the story EXACTLY how it happened. No changing things bc of "interpretations". Just plain of telling the story from A to Z.
WARNING! this is gonna be a long post. Don't comment unless you have actually read it! i am not gonna keep repeating myself bc of some lazy people who don't even try to see anything is wrong with their "baby murder queen". also, spoilers for Mapleshade's book and some other books she appears in.
Okay, now that that's out of the way, lets start!
Mapleshade's vengeance begins with a gathering. It's made obvious River and ThunderClan are not on each other's good sides. Qoute from the book:

she couldn’t blame RiverClan for being angry. ThunderClan had triumphed in the last clash over Sunningrocks; defeat was the bitterest wound of all...

Keep this one in mind. She knew River and ThunderClan were not welcoming of one another. This one's important for later on. This next one is a qoute by the RiverClan cat Rainfall you might want to remember for later on:

"Remember what happened to Birchface and Flowerpaw," Rainfall murmered in her ear... ... "those rocks belong to us, and we'll kill as many of your clanmates as we need to untill you give them up."

It heavily implies that even RiverClan saw Birchface's death as a killing, instead of an accident. Something people love to discuss over. But this qoute makes it clear as day, most of ThunderClan, and at least some of RiverClan, do think Appledusk killed Birchface, and that it wasn't just an accident, like Mapleshade, Appledusk and some other RiverClan cats claim. This will explain a lot of what happened in later parts of the book.
let's continue shall we, the next part is her meeting with Appledusk. This is where i want to bring up one of my major points in this book. The descussion of Aplledusk cheated on Mapleshade. And yes, it's true, he cheated on her, but the following part makes it very clear Maple did at least have a feeling this was happening. Most people love to brag about how Maple didn't know about it and how unfair it was, but the text directly from the book makes it seem otherwise. So, after Maple told Apple she expected kits, she left him to go back to her own clanmates. While she leaves, she hears Reedshine hapily run to Appledusk, saying she just heard a ShadowClan elder tell a story about someone swallowing a live frog. Apple looks back at Mapleshade worried, than follows Reedshine. Reedshine than curls her tail on Apple's back as they walk away together. During this part Mapleshade thinks the following: "Stay away from him, Reedshine. He's mine! These kits will make sure of that!" So yes, this sentence directly tells us Maple has a feeling Apple and Reed are very close. Something she will later try to hide as she'll act like the clueless victim.
Than we have the "did Mapleshade lie" debate, which is answered in the next part. The day after the gathrering, Mapleshade goes to Beetail, the ThunderClan deputy, to tell him she's expecting and won't do the dawn patrol. He asks her if she's told Oakstar, to which she respons with "no". Beetail tells her she must tell him, and than asks her about the father. she answers him she'll be raising them alone. They part ways and Maple goes to sleep again, as she feels like telling Oakstar can wait. By the time she gets woken up by Frecklewish, rumour about her pragnancy has spread. Frecklewish asks her about the father, and asks her if it's Birchface. Maple doesn't respond so Frecklewish concludes this means "yes". Now, Freckle is very happy with this, and Maple doesn't even try to correct her. No, she sees this as an opportunity to keep her kits safe. She even confesses to herself she lied by staying silent, and blamed the lie on Frecklewish as well:

I have not lied out loud. This was all Frecklewish's doing. But i cannot turn down this chance to have my kits welcomed with the love the deserve....

Here, she says it herself. She didn't lie out loud, but she did in fact, lie. Otherwise the book would have stated specifically she didn't lie at all, not just out loud. She than justifies her lie by blaming Frecklewish and goes on thinking about using it to her avantage. As an expecting Queen, Mapleshade has the right to tell Frecklewish that "the kits are not Birchface's, but she'd like to keep the real father a secret." she is literally allowed to do this, and her clanmates are not allowed to kick her out or force her to reveal it, as queens are fully allowed to keep the father a secret if they want. Bluestar did the same thing, so did Blackstar's mother, Hollyflower, Raggedstar's mother, Featherstorm and so many more queens. Sure, it will deffinatly raise questions, but Maple can't get in trouble for being honest but deciding to keep the father a secret. instead, she stays silent, giving everyone a feeling of false hope and lies. Also, may i remind you of one of the previous qoutes. The one about Appledusk killing Birchface. Yeah, by giving the clan a false hope of the kits being Birchface's, she'll just put everyone through their grieve again if she reveals he isn't the father. Not only that, but she'll make them feel stupid for having any kind of hope, and angry about caring for the children of his murderer. She lied, she acknowledged the fact that she lied, and she'll make everything way worse for both her and her clan by lying. She could have made this burden less heavy by just denying the claim of Birchface being the father and keeping her Queen's right for silence, but she didn't. She let it happen, and blamed someone else for it, which will ultimately lead to her own downfall. All that happened after this point started here, by this simple silence treatment. By this silent lie. And this, together with the things that happened after it, are her own fault. (sorry for the small rant, i really couldn't help myself. Doesn't steer away from the fact that Maple did lie and she knew she lied as well.)
And if you still don't believe me, just wait and keep reading as i'm only through chapter one of this book!
So, though the beginning of chapter two doesn't add a lot except for the fact that Maple is kinda mean during her kitting, like thinking of biting Ravenwing's paw and lashing out at him for trying to calm her down, or thinking about rejecting her first born because he feels wet to her fur, or thinking about lashing out at Frecklewish for caring for her newborns bc "she can do it on her own", etc. it's made obvious near the end of this chapter that Maple doesn't mind playing in with the lie she created. She acts as if Birchface really is the father of her kits by saying things like "you should especially tell Appledusk since he killed Birchface, to let him know that ThunderClan is storng" and she says things like "I am sure Birchface is watching us from StarClan". She makes it clear that she has accepted this lie and is willing to use it as a means of manipulating the cats around her to do her blessing. She is quite literally using the name of a dead cat to get things the way she wants them to be. At this point, she absolutely is not innocent anymore. She is quite literally manipulatiog cats by using their grieve. This isn't something a good cat would do.
She also made it very clear in this chapter she was only using Frecklewish as a means of getting her kits accepted. Frecklewish is very friendly towards her and her kits, caring for them, bringing Mapleshade the first pick of the fresh kill pile, genuanly trying to get on good terms with Mapleshade, but all Maple does is thinking about how she wants to lash out on her, sent her away, but that she can't because she has use in Frecklewish. As of proven by the following qoute:

...Mapleshade fought down the urge to bat Frecklewish away. These are my kits, not yours! She knew that the ginger she-cat's friendship would go a long way toward her kits being loved by all of ThunderClan...

Here, it says it loud and clear, she only means to use Frecklewish's friendship, grieve and love for "her brother's kits" as a way to get her kits accepted in ThunderClan. She does not care about what she's doing to Frecklewish at all.
Than in Chapter three, she takes her three two moon old kits out into the forest, may i remind you that usually, kits don't leave camp at all? Not even supervised? And if they do leave camp they don't go far, and they're usually at least four moons old. This is only different during desasters like forest fires or floodings, but that's not the case here. And Mapleshade took them all the way out to the river, which is about a half day walk to and fro, which is way too much for kits as small as hers. It's really not responsible at all. Even the kits know this isn't allowed, qoute by Patchlkit:

"Are we allowed outside? I thought we had to stay in the camp until we are old enough to be apprentices."

Maple even knew this herself as she made sure no one would notice her leaving camp. She was also worried throughout the whole way that they'd be spotted by clanmates. She made it very clear that what she was doing in that moment was not allowed.
And not only did she walk them all the way to the river, she let them swim in it. She let them cross a part of the river and didn't even try to stop them. All she said was "be careful" and an "are you okay". Even RiverClan would never do this. And when she was actually conserned about one of her kit's wellbeing, she didn't even go in herself. Qoute:

... Mapleshade felt a jolt of concern. "Are you okay?" She called. Patchkit nodded, still panting too hard to speak. Mapleshade paced up and down on the shore. She hated the idea of getting her paws wet, but she wasn't sure if Patchkit had enough strenght to swim back on his own. The other two kits were playing hide-and-seek in a clump of reeds close by the shore. "Larchkit, Petalkit, go help your brother!" she meowed. ...

Yep, she sent her other two kits to fetch their brother instead of going in herself. Very responsible if you ask me. Also, even RiverClan called the kits too young to swim in the river. most new apprentices in Riverclan don't even swim in there. Mapleshade brought her kits in serious danger just to be able to feel proud of them. It's like telling your 4 year old to do a salto from a 2 meter wall just to be able to see them do it.
After this a RiverClan patrol sees the three kits and Appledusk gets them out of the water, he and Maple flirt a bit and Apple leaves. Ravenwing saw all of it and confronts Mapleshade with the facts, he gave her some chances to confess. Telling her about the omen he had and if she knows anything about it. Maple keeps refusing his statements until Ravenwing is forced to tell her his suspicion, that Appledusk is the father of her kits. Maple, who has had some chances to confess prior to that point but didn't take them, made it even worse by claiming Thunderclan should be happy with her kits and that she'll keep the secret for as long as it takes. Ravenwing, angry with her attidute towards him, tells her he won't let Thunderclan be lied to for any longer.

... Mapleshade felt the ground sway beneath her paws. "ThunderClan is blessed to have these beautiful, strong kits," she hissed. "The truth will be revealed at the right time. It's not my fault that everyone assumed Birchface was their father." "I cannot let you lie to our clanmates!" Ravenwing spat. "And now that i know the truth, i cannot lie, either." "I have told you nothing," Mapleshade mewed through clenched jaws. You have told me plenty," Ravenwing responded, and there was sadness in his sky-coloured eyes. "The truth must come out." "Please, don't say anything!" Mapleshade begged. "These are ThunderClan kits!" "They are half-RiverClan," Ravenwing corrected, his voice as hard as ice. "Our Clanmates deserve to know. I'm sorry, Mapleshade. Sorry for you, but even sorrier for these kits. They will end up suffering for the lies that you have told." He whirled around and vanished into the bracken. ...

We have already well astblished that Mapleshade accepted the fact that she did in fact lie to her clanmates, we also know she than blamed that lie on Frecklewish, and she is doing it again. She pushes the blame away from her in the hope that she will get what she wants. She acts like the abused victim, hoping people will have sympathy for her and let her do her thing. She literally tells Ravenwing that the kits are half RiverClan "The truth will be revealed at the right time, It's not my fault everyone assumed Birchface was their father" than continues to make it seem like Ravenwing lied, guilttripping him. "I have told you nothing." "These are ThunderClan kits!". Mapleshade literally confessed her lies and than made it seem like she didn't, to make Ravenwing feel guilty. this is the definition of guilttripping people. And let me tell you that a morrally good person doesn't really do that. She could have prevented this by 1) not lying in the first place, she'd still be punished, yes, but she would at least not have made all those cats go through their grieve again, so the punishment would be less harsh. 2) Not going to the river, she should have know the kits were too young and being spotted would get her in trouble anyways, she risked too much 3) Confessing to Ravenwing early in their conversation, and actually having respect for him. This might have given her the chance to properly explain things to him and he might have allowed her to think about it over night, instead, she acted rude and entitled to him, which caused him to be pissed off, which than caused him to tell his clan immidiatly.
Maple could have tried to do literally anything different, she could have made things better by just acting friendly and respectful to others, but she did none of that. she didn't think about what other cats might feel, only about herself. she acted rude and without respect. She used others to get what she wanted and tried guilttripping them to make them feel bad for her. She did all the wrong things and expected the right outcome. She has shown to be selfsentered, selfish, rude, disrespectful, uncaring, manipulative and careless. And we are not even at the bad part. We ar only just beginning my readers.
But i know this post has been going on for a long wile, so i am ending it here, and posting a second part later today. Cause, honestly, i don't think most of y'all are even gonna bother to read this. Also, i have to reread the book in order to make this, and got to the beginning of chapter 4 for this post. So yeah, idk how long it's gonna take for me to write part 2, as i need to read another 5 chapters for it.
see ya in the next part!

Right, so this is a response to a previous post about someone saying "Maple deserved StarClan". No, she did not. You, my friend, have been getting the story mixed up. This is exactly what happened to her, and also why she doesn't deserve StarClan. There is no reading between the lines here, no opinionated standpoint (though i do not like her nor her book, i am trying my best to not let my own opinions mingle with facts). I am literally sitting with the book in front of me and telling the story EXACTLY how it happened. No changing things bc of "interpretations". Just plain of telling the story from A to Z.
WARNING! this is gonna be a long post. Don't comment unless you have actually read it! i am not gonna keep repeating myself bc of some lazy people who don't even try to see anything is wrong with their "baby murder queen". also, spoilers for Mapleshade's book and some other books she appears in.
Okay, now that that's out of the way, lets start!
Mapleshade's vengeance begins with a gathering. It's made obvious River and ThunderClan are not on each other's good sides. Qoute from the book:

she couldn’t blame RiverClan for being angry. ThunderClan had triumphed in the last clash over Sunningrocks; defeat was the bitterest wound of all...

Keep this one in mind. She knew River and ThunderClan were not welcoming of one another. This one's important for later on. This next one is a qoute by the RiverClan cat Rainfall you might want to remember for later on:

"Remember what happened to Birchface and Flowerpaw," Rainfall murmered in her ear... ... "those rocks belong to us, and we'll kill as many of your clanmates as we need to untill you give them up."

It heavily implies that even RiverClan saw Birchface's death as a killing, instead of an accident. Something people love to discuss over. But this qoute makes it clear as day, most of ThunderClan, and at least some of RiverClan, do think Appledusk killed Birchface, and that it wasn't just an accident, like Mapleshade, Appledusk and some other RiverClan cats claim. This will explain a lot of what happened in later parts of the book.
let's continue shall we, the next part is her meeting with Appledusk. This is where i want to bring up one of my major points in this book. The descussion of Aplledusk cheated on Mapleshade. And yes, it's true, he cheated on her, but the following part makes it very clear Maple did at least have a feeling this was happening. Most people love to brag about how Maple didn't know about it and how unfair it was, but the text directly from the book makes it seem otherwise. So, after Maple told Apple she expected kits, she left him to go back to her own clanmates. While she leaves, she hears Reedshine hapily run to Appledusk, saying she just heard a ShadowClan elder tell a story about someone swallowing a live frog. Apple looks back at Mapleshade worried, than follows Reedshine. Reedshine than curls her tail on Apple's back as they walk away together. During this part Mapleshade thinks the following: "Stay away from him, Reedshine. He's mine! These kits will make sure of that!" So yes, this sentence directly tells us Maple has a feeling Apple and Reed are very close. Something she will later try to hide as she'll act like the clueless victim.
Than we have the "did Mapleshade lie" debate, which is answered in the next part. The day after the gathrering, Mapleshade goes to Beetail, the ThunderClan deputy, to tell him she's expecting and won't do the dawn patrol. He asks her if she's told Oakstar, to which she respons with "no". Beetail tells her she must tell him, and than asks her about the father. she answers him she'll be raising them alone. They part ways and Maple goes to sleep again, as she feels like telling Oakstar can wait. By the time she gets woken up by Frecklewish, rumour about her pragnancy has spread. Frecklewish asks her about the father, and asks her if it's Birchface. Maple doesn't respond so Frecklewish concludes this means "yes". Now, Freckle is very happy with this, and Maple doesn't even try to correct her. No, she sees this as an opportunity to keep her kits safe. She even confesses to herself she lied by staying silent, and blamed the lie on Frecklewish as well:

I have not lied out loud. This was all Frecklewish's doing. But i cannot turn down this chance to have my kits welcomed with the love the deserve....

Here, she says it herself. She didn't lie out loud, but she did in fact, lie. Otherwise the book would have stated specifically she didn't lie at all, not just out loud. She than justifies her lie by blaming Frecklewish and goes on thinking about using it to her avantage. As an expecting Queen, Mapleshade has the right to tell Frecklewish that "the kits are not Birchface's, but she'd like to keep the real father a secret." she is literally allowed to do this, and her clanmates are not allowed to kick her out or force her to reveal it, as queens are fully allowed to keep the father a secret if they want. Bluestar did the same thing, so did Blackstar's mother, Hollyflower, Raggedstar's mother, Featherstorm and so many more queens. Sure, it will deffinatly raise questions, but Maple can't get in trouble for being honest but deciding to keep the father a secret. instead, she stays silent, giving everyone a feeling of false hope and lies. Also, may i remind you of one of the previous qoutes. The one about Appledusk killing Birchface. Yeah, by giving the clan a false hope of the kits being Birchface's, she'll just put everyone through their grieve again if she reveals he isn't the father. Not only that, but she'll make them feel stupid for having any kind of hope, and angry about caring for the children of his murderer. She lied, she acknowledged the fact that she lied, and she'll make everything way worse for both her and her clan by lying. She could have made this burden less heavy by just denying the claim of Birchface being the father and keeping her Queen's right for silence, but she didn't. She let it happen, and blamed someone else for it, which will ultimately lead to her own downfall. All that happened after this point started here, by this simple silence treatment. By this silent lie. And this, together with the things that happened after it, are her own fault. (sorry for the small rant, i really couldn't help myself. Doesn't steer away from the fact that Maple did lie and she knew she lied as well.)
And if you still don't believe me, just wait and keep reading as i'm only through chapter one of this book!
So, though the beginning of chapter two doesn't add a lot except for the fact that Maple is kinda mean during her kitting, like thinking of biting Ravenwing's paw and lashing out at him for trying to calm her down, or thinking about rejecting her first born because he feels wet to her fur, or thinking about lashing out at Frecklewish for caring for her newborns bc "she can do it on her own", etc. it's made obvious near the end of this chapter that Maple doesn't mind playing in with the lie she created. She acts as if Birchface really is the father of her kits by saying things like "you should especially tell Appledusk since he killed Birchface, to let him know that ThunderClan is storng" and she says things like "I am sure Birchface is watching us from StarClan". She makes it clear that she has accepted this lie and is willing to use it as a means of manipulating the cats around her to do her blessing. She is quite literally using the name of a dead cat to get things the way she wants them to be. At this point, she absolutely is not innocent anymore. She is quite literally manipulatiog cats by using their grieve. This isn't something a good cat would do.
She also made it very clear in this chapter she was only using Frecklewish as a means of getting her kits accepted. Frecklewish is very friendly towards her and her kits, caring for them, bringing Mapleshade the first pick of the fresh kill pile, genuanly trying to get on good terms with Mapleshade, but all Maple does is thinking about how she wants to lash out on her, sent her away, but that she can't because she has use in Frecklewish. As of proven by the following qoute:

...Mapleshade fought down the urge to bat Frecklewish away. These are my kits, not yours! She knew that the ginger she-cat's friendship would go a long way toward her kits being loved by all of ThunderClan...

Here, it says it loud and clear, she only means to use Frecklewish's friendship, grieve and love for "her brother's kits" as a way to get her kits accepted in ThunderClan. She does not care about what she's doing to Frecklewish at all.
Than in Chapter three, she takes her three two moon old kits out into the forest, may i remind you that usually, kits don't leave camp at all? Not even supervised? And if they do leave camp they don't go far, and they're usually at least four moons old. This is only different during desasters like forest fires or floodings, but that's not the case here. And Mapleshade took them all the way out to the river, which is about a half day walk to and fro, which is way too much for kits as small as hers. It's really not responsible at all. Even the kits know this isn't allowed, qoute by Patchlkit:

"Are we allowed outside? I thought we had to stay in the camp until we are old enough to be apprentices."

Maple even knew this herself as she made sure no one would notice her leaving camp. She was also worried throughout the whole way that they'd be spotted by clanmates. She made it very clear that what she was doing in that moment was not allowed.
And not only did she walk them all the way to the river, she let them swim in it. She let them cross a part of the river and didn't even try to stop them. All she said was "be careful" and an "are you okay". Even RiverClan would never do this. And when she was actually conserned about one of her kit's wellbeing, she didn't even go in herself. Qoute:

... Mapleshade felt a jolt of concern. "Are you okay?" She called. Patchkit nodded, still panting too hard to speak. Mapleshade paced up and down on the shore. She hated the idea of getting her paws wet, but she wasn't sure if Patchkit had enough strenght to swim back on his own. The other two kits were playing hide-and-seek in a clump of reeds close by the shore. "Larchkit, Petalkit, go help your brother!" she meowed. ...

Yep, she sent her other two kits to fetch their brother instead of going in herself. Very responsible if you ask me. Also, even RiverClan called the kits too young to swim in the river. most new apprentices in Riverclan don't even swim in there. Mapleshade brought her kits in serious danger just to be able to feel proud of them. It's like telling your 4 year old to do a salto from a 2 meter wall just to be able to see them do it.
After this a RiverClan patrol sees the three kits and Appledusk gets them out of the water, he and Maple flirt a bit and Apple leaves. Ravenwing saw all of it and confronts Mapleshade with the facts, he gave her some chances to confess. Telling her about the omen he had and if she knows anything about it. Maple keeps refusing his statements until Ravenwing is forced to tell her his suspicion, that Appledusk is the father of her kits. Maple, who has had some chances to confess prior to that point but didn't take them, made it even worse by claiming Thunderclan should be happy with her kits and that she'll keep the secret for as long as it takes. Ravenwing, angry with her attidute towards him, tells her he won't let Thunderclan be lied to for any longer.

... Mapleshade felt the ground sway beneath her paws. "ThunderClan is blessed to have these beautiful, strong kits," she hissed. "The truth will be revealed at the right time. It's not my fault that everyone assumed Birchface was their father." "I cannot let you lie to our clanmates!" Ravenwing spat. "And now that i know the truth, i cannot lie, either." "I have told you nothing," Mapleshade mewed through clenched jaws. You have told me plenty," Ravenwing responded, and there was sadness in his sky-coloured eyes. "The truth must come out." "Please, don't say anything!" Mapleshade begged. "These are ThunderClan kits!" "They are half-RiverClan," Ravenwing corrected, his voice as hard as ice. "Our Clanmates deserve to know. I'm sorry, Mapleshade. Sorry for you, but even sorrier for these kits. They will end up suffering for the lies that you have told." He whirled around and vanished into the bracken. ...

We have already well astblished that Mapleshade accepted the fact that she did in fact lie to her clanmates, we also know she than blamed that lie on Frecklewish, and she is doing it again. She pushes the blame away from her in the hope that she will get what she wants. She acts like the abused victim, hoping people will have sympathy for her and let her do her thing. She literally tells Ravenwing that the kits are half RiverClan "The truth will be revealed at the right time, It's not my fault everyone assumed Birchface was their father" than continues to make it seem like Ravenwing lied, guilttripping him. "I have told you nothing." "These are ThunderClan kits!". Mapleshade literally confessed her lies and than made it seem like she didn't, to make Ravenwing feel guilty. this is the definition of guilttripping people. And let me tell you that a morrally good person doesn't really do that. She could have prevented this by 1) not lying in the first place, she'd still be punished, yes, but she would at least not have made all those cats go through their grieve again, so the punishment would be less harsh. 2) Not going to the river, she should have know the kits were too young and being spotted would get her in trouble anyways, she risked too much 3) Confessing to Ravenwing early in their conversation, and actually having respect for him. This might have given her the chance to properly explain things to him and he might have allowed her to think about it over night, instead, she acted rude and entitled to him, which caused him to be pissed off, which than caused him to tell his clan immidiatly.
Maple could have tried to do literally anything different, she could have made things better by just acting friendly and respectful to others, but she did none of that. she didn't think about what other cats might feel, only about herself. she acted rude and without respect. She used others to get what she wanted and tried guilttripping them to make them feel bad for her. She did all the wrong things and expected the right outcome. She has shown to be selfsentered, selfish, rude, disrespectful, uncaring, manipulative and careless. And we are not even at the bad part. We ar only just beginning my readers.
But i know this post has been going on for a long wile, so i am ending it here, and posting a second part later today. Cause, honestly, i don't think most of y'all are even gonna bother to read this. Also, i have to reread the book in order to make this, and got to the beginning of chapter 4 for this post. So yeah, idk how long it's gonna take for me to write part 2, as i need to read another 5 chapters for it.
see ya in the next part!