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Nitrate-induced headaches (NIH) - do I need to be concerned? They're not just bad, they are (at times) borderline incapacitating. 3-4 days now. This all in the wake of recent CABG graft "failure."

2024.03.09 21:02 askingquestionsblog Nitrate-induced headaches (NIH) - do I need to be concerned? They're not just bad, they are (at times) borderline incapacitating. 3-4 days now. This all in the wake of recent CABG graft "failure."

53M, triple bypass surgery May 2023, history of obesity (but weight has been decent for 5-6 years now, I'm now 5'8" and 187-192, apnea issues largely resolved as well when weight was shed), lifelong history of GERD/reflux, HBP diagnosed 8-9 years ago, under control with meds. No smoke, no drink, no drugs.
Post-surg. meds: Metoprolol AM, Atorvastatin and Losartan/Cozaar PM. My blood pressure is very well controlled, and my resting pulse rate is (and always has been) in the low to mid 50s.
Recent problems: About 3 weeks ago I started noticing slight changes - a twinge or pulse of pain in my upper left quadrant; a feeling of fullness behind my rib cage; the feeling of starting to run out of breath if I talked too much and too energetically (I'm a teacher); a squeezing sensation. These were all sensations I had been familiar with before, and that had vanished completely from my life after last year's surgery. Over a week or so, the discomfort became noticeably more present and persistent, but did not appear to be reflux, since I was aggressive with antacid therapy to rule that out as a cause.
Last week, I went to the ER, on my cardiologist's urging. EKG, chest xray, CBC, electrolytes, cardiac enzymes, etc... all normal, so they kept me overnight to do a heart cath first thing in the morning (March 4th). My cath results were as follows (trying to paraphrase): Last May, harvested the mammary arteries (both sides) and did a "bridge." (I wish I had more specifics in re: RIMA vs LIMA vs. free vs. in situ but I didn't know the terminology, and I was still coming off of a lot of Versed when the cardiologist explained this to me, so I was foggy). But one of the three "branches" (they said it was a very small one) was fully occluded, "shut down." Scar tissue. However, 1 of the 3 "native" vessels "opened back up again," and was showing "normal flow." So this was apparently a good thing.
However, full blood flow or not, I was still experiencing symptoms of ischemia, just like prior to my surgery last year. Pressure, feeling of fullness behind the rib cage, occasional pain, mild shortness of breath, feeling of "doom" etc...
So they prescribed me isosorbide mononitrate, 30, extended release, once a day. I take it at night. The morning after my first dose, I woke with the worst headache I could imagine. It felt like my old apnea headaches, but worse, and NO amount of Tylenol would make it go away or lessen. It hurts to move, turn my head, and any shock or vibration makes me want to almost cry. This is I think Day 4 of this. It feels a little better if I'm chewing (so gum helps), and it tends to be less severe at night, though when I take my pill before bed and feel the extreme pain anew upon waking. The nitrate does seem to be helping with the chest and breathing symptoms, not 100%, but definitely noticeably. So I guess that's something.
So my QUESTIONS are:
  1. Are the nitrate-induced headaches transient, or is this my new normal, and as they feel VERY much like apnea headaches, does that mean that the vasodilator is adversely affecting cerebral bloodflow or oxygenation? I did read in a study that NIH tend to subside within 5-7 days, but at what point, if at all, should I be concerned? And should they be THIS bad??
  2. Should I not be worried about a failed graft after only 9 months? Likewise, should I not be worried that one of the old occluded native vessels has "opened back up again?" I mean, if it was so blocked that it needed to be bypassed last year, why should I be happy about blood flowing through it now? And does that not explain my symptoms?) Does not the restoral of flow through a heavily calcified native vessel put me risk even though I'm on a statin? Isn't the idea to NOT have blood flowing through calcified tubes where clusters of plaque can just break off?
  3. Doc says that nothing about this occluded graft should be causing me any kind of symptoms, because total bloodflow is normal, and all the areas of the heart are getting what they need. So why do I feel as I did in the weeks and months leading up to my bypass surgery last year? And isn't the fact that the vasodilator is making me feel better actually PROOF that my heart function is impaired, bloodflow-wise?
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EDIT: fixed spelling of ISOSORBIDE
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2024.02.05 02:11 tellray Understanding the Top 10 Blood Pressure Medications You May Be Taking

Top 10 high blood pressure medications Drugs that treat high blood pressure are known as antihypertensives. Blood pressure medications work by :
There are several classes of antihypertensive medications, and each class includes several drug options. Your doctor will work with you to find the best treatment plan.
The following list provides the top 10 blood pressure medications by prescriptions written. The list includes a brief description of each drug, including its class, how to take it, and what it treats. The next section provides more information on drug classes.
The most common high blood pressure medications by total prescriptions written include:
Lisinopril (Prinivil, Zestril): This medication is an angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor. It is a drug that you usually take once per day. Most people find once-daily dosing to be convenient and easy to remember. Lisinopril is also a treatment option for heart failure.
Metoprolol (Lopressor, Toprol XL): This medication is a beta-blocker. It comes in an immediate-release form and an extended-release form. It also helps lower the risk of repeat heart attacks and helps treat angina and congestive heart failure.
Amlodipine (Norvasc): This medication is a calcium channel blocker. People usually take it once per day. Amlodipine is also a treatment option for angina.
Losartan (Cozaar): This medication is an angiotensin II receptor blocker. In most cases, the dose is once per day. Doctors also use this drug to decrease the risk of stroke in people with an enlarged heart.
Hydrochlorothiazide (Hydrodiuril, Microzide): This medication is a diuretic. It comes as a capsule or tablet that you typically take once per day. It also treats fluid retention, or edema, from conditions such as heart failure.
Furosemide (Lasix): This medication is another diuretic. Your doctor may prescribe it for use once or twice per day. Furosemide, like other diuretics, can make your skin more sensitive to the sun. Like other diuretics, it also treats edema.
Carvedilol (Coreg): This medication is another beta-blocker. It comes as a tablet for twice-daily dosing and an extended-release capsule for once-daily dosing. You take both forms with food.
Atenolol (Tenormin): This medication is also a beta-blocker. The usual dose can be once or twice per day. Like other beta-blockers, this drug can help improve survival after a heart attack.
Spironolactone (Aldactone): This medication is another diuretic. It comes as a tablet and in a liquid form. You take it either once or twice per day.
Clonidine (Catapres): This medication belongs to the central agonist class. It comes as a tablet that you take twice daily. There is also an extended-release tablet for treating attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
Classes of blood pressure medications
There are many classes of antihypertensive medications and many drugs within each class. This results in a large number of drugs that doctors can use to treat high blood pressure.
To assist doctors in choosing the best treatment, they typically follow guidelines and recommendations from experts in this medical field.
Some commonly prescribed classes of antihypertensive medications include:
ACE inhibitors: These drugs block an enzyme to reduce the body’s amount of angiotensin. Having less angiotensin in the body helps the blood vessels relax. Some common side effects of ACE inhibitors include a rash and a dry cough. Examples include captopril, enalapril, and lisinopril.
Angiotensin II receptor blockers: This class directly blocks angiotensin to relax the blood vessels. Common side effects include dizziness and lightheadedness, especially when standing up from a seated position. Examples include losartan and valsartan.
Alpha-blockers: This class relaxes the blood vessels. The drugs can also relax the muscles in organs, such as the bladder and prostate gland. Dizziness, especially when rising, is a common side effect.
Beta-blockers: These drugs block the effects of adrenaline. This lowers blood pressure by decreasing your heart rate and the force of each beat. Examples include atenolol, metoprolol, and propranolol.
Calcium channel blockers: This class relaxes the blood vessels and decreases the heart rate. Possible side effects include heart palpitations, ankle swelling, constipation, headaches, and dizziness. Examples include amlodipine and felodipine.
Central agonists: This class reduces the heart rate and relaxes the blood vessels by affecting certain nerve signals from the brain. Common side effects include dry mouth, constipation, and drowsiness. Examples include clonidine and guanfacine.
Diuretics: These drugs work by increasing the amount of fluid the body eliminates through urination. Many people call diuretics “water pills.” By reducing your body’s volume of blood, the pressure inside the arteries decreases. Some common side effects of diuretics include increased urination, thirst, dizziness, and sensitivity to sunlight. Examples include furosemide and hydrochlorothiazide.
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2023.08.15 16:27 bogiemonster PT committee

Has anyone recently been apart of a PT committee meeting and had a really compelling suggestion that was well received?
Trying to update our formulary and struggling to find areas where we can strengthen our inventory or even just be able to provide an interesting cost benefit analysis to spark a discussion? Thinking valtrex vs acyclovir but feel like I am grasping at straws.
Anyone have any interesting ones? We canned enalapril in lieu of lisinopril due to a lower prevalence of angioedema to give an example. Will also accept suggestions for a better system to source ideas tia
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2023.05.30 03:04 Bubzoluck [22 min read] Differences that Divide Us - The role of Racial and Sex based Medicine

[22 min read] Differences that Divide Us - The role of Racial and Sex based Medicine
Hello and welcome back to SAR! First off, I apologize for the hiatus in blog posts but had some things pop up and now I am clear! Alright off to the good stuff: For most things in life there are few reasons why one person of a particular sex or race would be more well suited to a particular job than another person of a different sex or race. Afterall, the quality of a cup of coffee would be just the same from a Black female barista with 10 years of experience as an Asian male barista with 10 years of experience. But medicine is a bit different; we do see differences because of sex or race that are important to understand, acknowledge, and factor into the diagnosis. Obviously a male isn’t going to have pregnancy on the differential diagnosis and prostate cancer isn’t a factor for female patients. The differences in Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of a drug, a disease, or treatment can vary wildly between the sexes or between races. So today I want to look at the differences that we are only now starting to realize and the emerging role of Pharmacogenomics as the next horizon for medicine. So the big question is: you got something big in your genes or are you just happy to see me? :P
Disclaimer: this post is not designed to be medical advice. It is merely a look at the chemistry of medications and their general effect on the body. Each person responds differently to therapy. Please talk to your doctor about starting, stopping, or changing medical treatment.

Pharmaco—what?


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Because I am a pharmacist I want to center our discussion on the drug choices and attributes influenced by sex and race but in order to do that we have to lay a foundation. The processes that move drugs from a pill into your body are broadly referred to as ADME but there is a hidden L step that is just as important to talk about as well. The lifecycle of a drug, LADME, are the five major processes that affect a drug inside the body. Let’s look:
  1. Liberation - When you swallow a tablet, the pill as a whole isn’t magically absorbed through the intestinal wall, it has to break down and liberate the drug from the dosage form. Liberation is the process of how the vehicle (what the drug is administered as) is broken down so the drug is free floating inside the body. This is also where we can see differences in timing such as extended release or immediate release products. It also governs other forms too like tablets you can chew or patches you apply onto the skin.
  2. Absorption - Now that the drug has left the tablet, it needs to move from the GI tract space into the body proper. The mucous membranes inside the intestine have a HUGE surface area allowing for many substances to be absorbed quickly and efficiently. How well a drug is absorbed plays a major factor in how well the drug’s action is. What if you're administering an oral (PO) antibiotic but the patient has diarrhea and they move the drug too quickly through the intestines? Can we be sure it was all absorbed? This is why we have alternative administration pathways like intramuscularly (IM), subcutaneous (SubQ), intravenous (IV), rectally (PR), vaginally (PV), optically (OU), and more. Each gets the drug inside the bloodstream where it can then get to the place it needs to go.
  3. Distribution - Speaking of getting where it needs to go, we have distribution. Once the drug is absorbed and dumped into the bloodstream, it needs to go to the place where the receptor, channel, or structure is for it to have action. Some places are easier to get to like highly vascularized (lots of blood vessels) areas like skin, the liver, and kidney while others are a bit harder such as the heart tissue, lungs, and brain.
  • “How does the drug know where to go?” It doesn’t! It will go everywhere in the body but that doesn’t mean that it will have action there. One good example is with Carbidopa, a dopamine receptor agonist used for Parkinson’s (oh look a post!). When a person take’s Carbidopa orally, it's absorbed into the blood and starts to distribute throughout the body generally. We want it to go to the brain to alleviate Parkinson's symptoms but it can also activate dopamine receptors in the periphery where it causes dizziness and constipation (I highly recommend reading the post if you want to learn how).
  1. Metabolism - Eventually the drug has to leave the body and metabolism is the first step in that process. Metabolism has two phases: phase 1 is responsible for deactivating the drug by modifying the structure of the drug in a way where it cannot fit inside the receptor anymore. Phase 2 takes the deactivated drug and makes it very water soluble so that it can leave the body extremely easily. The rate of metabolism is dependent on many different factors and is highly specific to each person which is why we do large pharmacokinetic studies in drugs before they are ready to be on the market. Failure to understand how a drug is metabolized can lead to toxicities from drug accumulation OR give too little a dose because the drug is metabolized so quickly.

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5. Elimination - The last step in the drug lifecycle is elimination or how it physically gets out of the body. The majority of drugs leave via urine of which the kidney is responsible for that process. Having a working kidney is key for correctly dosing a drug because an underworking kidney may not eliminate the metabolized drug fast enough causing it to accumulate. There are other pathways too; fecal excretion (through biliary elimination) is another major route but some drugs can be eliminated via the lungs (such as alcohol, which is why it can be detected in a breathalyzer), through breast milk (which is why understanding drugs in pregnancy is SUPER important), sweat, saliva, and sebum.
Obviously there are major differences in LADME between males and females—after all it's hard to insert a drug vaginally in a male. But now that we have a general idea of what the drug is going to be doing, let’s dive into each section and talk about the sexual and racial differences we see at each step.

Liberation—”Liberty, equality, fraternity, or death; - the last, much the easiest to bestow, O Guillotine!”

When we think of liberation I want you to think of two things: getting the drug out of the formulation (such as the tablet or capsule breaking down in the stomach) and where that breakdown happens. These two factors are hugely important when we think about how the drug will eventually get absorbed—after all if you can’t liberate the drug correctly then there is no chance that it will be absorbed and then be utilized by the body. First let's talk about formulations:

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  • In your daily life you’ve probably come across different formulations of drugs. Here we are going to look at the most basic of them: Immediate Release (IR), Delayed Release (SR), and Controlled Release (CR) also known as Extended Release (ER). The main differences between these different forms is how quickly the tablet moves from a solid lump sitting in your stomach to dissolved particles. The slower it releases then the slower the drug dissolves into your stomach and the slower it will eventually get absorbed. Initially all drugs were formulated as Immediate Release because we had little understanding of the utility of longer dosing formulations as well as we didn’t have the technology to do it. There are a whole bunch of different types of Extended Release types each with different uses and drawbacks and choosing which is best for your drug is extremely important for deciding what works best. At the end of this section is a diagram that shows all the different kinds of formulations.

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  • But for now I want us to focus on the graph of drug liberation curves. The graph is divided into three zones with two very important barrier points: the Minimum Effective Level (MEL, aka MEC) and the Minimum Toxic Level (MTL aka MTC). Essentially if the curve of the line, representing the concentration of the drug in the body, is below the Minimum Effective Level then there isn’t enough drug to exert its action and we have Subtherapeutic levels in the body. Over time, the tablet dissolves more and more and the concentration continues to rise more and more and we pass the MEL into the Therapeutic Window where we see the action of the drug. In general we can say the higher you are in the Therapeutic Window, the greater the therapeutic effect there is or in other terms, the higher the dose the bigger the effect. Finally if you go above the Therapeutic Window you pass through the Minimum Toxic Level and enter into drug toxicity levels. Now, toxicity is a bit of a harsh word because this doesn’t mean we are going to see death but rather side effects due to too great of an effect of the drug. For example, say you are taking a drug that lowers blood pressure but due to changes in the tablet liberation the concentration rises above the MTL and your blood pressure drops a little too much and you get dizzy.

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  • In the first graph we can see how drug design impacts the speed of liberation. Let’s say that we have 100mg of a drug that we are trying to put in the body. Using an Immediate Release formulation would result in a much quicker liberation and thus absorption into the body but we can see that it peaks very quickly and then drops off very quickly. So you may only get a few hours of usefulness out of the drug. Compare this to the Controlled Release system which peaks much slower but also declines much slower too, remaining much more Therapeutic for a longer period of time. We can see this in Adderall used for ADHD—most people will take an Extended Release (ER) formulation in the morning so that they get many hours of sustained therapeutic benefit while they are at school or at work. You can see one method of how the beads inside the Adderall capsule are made—called Pelletization. Essentially an inert core is layered with different chemicals/drugs to build an “Onion” of layers [insert Shrek reference].
    • So wouldn’t extended release always be better because we avoid the toxic levels of a drug? Not necessarily. To give an example of one of my patients, this person was a 911 operator who would take their Adderall XR every morning at 8:30am and work from 9am to 6pm every day. For them, their Adderall would start to wear off at 4pm, so they would get 7 hours of benefit. But what abouts the last two hours of the work day? They can’t be distracted in their job else it costs lives and taking another Adderall XR would mean they are wired until 11pm. No good. This is where the utility of IR formulations come in—this person can take an IR dose at 4pm when the Extended Release starts to wear off and boost their levels back into the therapeutic range and get 3 or 4 hours of benefit but have it be gone by the time they go to bed.

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  • So hopefully you can see the utility of choosing different release systems now, but what about the second point: liberating in the right place in the body. Well some drugs are more effective if they are absorbed later in the digestive tract where it is less acidic versus the stomach. So some drugs may have better absorption if we can release them further towards the intestines than immediately dumping them into the stomach for absorption. This is where the utility of Delayed Release (DR) systems comes in. Drugs that are considered Acid Labile or sensitive to acid else they degrade are preserved better if they can liberate from the tablet in a less acidic environment. A great example of this is Omeprazole (Prilosec) which is used for decreasing the production of stomach acid to treat acid reflux or GERD—problem is that Omeprazole itself is very Acid Labile and if it enters the stomach unprotected then it degrades fairly quickly. This leads to the use of Omeprazole DR formulations where it is coated in substances that resist acid breakdown like Shellac or Sodium Alginate, thus allowing for the Omeprazole to be liberated in the small intestine where it is more likely to be absorbed.

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  • This is all well and good but how does this relate to sex and race? Well one of the major differences between males and females is that females have a more acidic stomach than males making their stomach environment much more acidic. In addition the Gastric Emptying Time, or how long it takes for substances to move from the stomach into the small intestine for absorption, is significantly longer in females. These two factors mean that females taking a drug that is Acid Labile are more susceptible to degradation in a female than in a male. This means the utility of an Enteric Coated drug which would resist stomach acid would be much more beneficial in a female than in a male. Let’s look at a specific example: the drug Carbidopa is used in Parkison’s to treat the tremors associated with the disease. In younger females, the peak blood concentration for Carbidopa is 22 minutes later than males of the same age. As a female ages and goes through menopause that time to peak becomes more and more similar to males meaning not only are we seeing variability in sex but also in age.
    • Another example is looking at the effect of a drug's natural acidity with the relative acidity of that person. Ketorolac (Ketorol) is a non-opioid pain medication used for moderate-severe pain in people where an opiate may not be preferred. The problem with Ketorolac is that it is extremely acidic naturally and it can cause ulceration of the stomach lining if someone has a very acidic stomach environment like a diet filled with acidic food. What we find is that males can have a Ketorolac dose 36% times higher than females because their stomachs are naturally less acidic meaning that they can handle a more acidic drug without the negative side effects like acid reflux or ulceration.
    • On a racial standpoint we see similar outcomes. It is reported that individuals of Asian descent have a lower acid output compared to Occidental patients. Part of this can be related to the relative smaller body habitus (weight and height) in the Asian population but there is also a decreased expression of acid-producing tissues in the Asian population than other races. When quantified it appears that Asians have about 60% the acid secretion of Caucasians which is a clinically significant difference when considering drugs that need a more basic environment. For example, Levothyroxine (Synthroid) is taken one hour before breakfast because we want the least acidic environment possible, which happens when the body has no food in it. What we find is that Asian populations need up to 55% smaller doses of Levothyroxine compared to non-Asians. Kinda interesting eh?

Is that a polymorphism in your pocket?

Originally I was going to look at each part of LADME individually but kept running into a problem when trying to separate the drug processes into silos. While Liberation is distinct from the rest of the process, ADME cannot really be separated into its components in a way where I can tell the story efficiently. As such we will focus on the poster drugs that are significantly affected by race and sex and then talk about the larger implications in therapeutic development. Now clearly there are drugs that are used in one sex over another, for instance you aren’t going to find Atosiban used to delay labor in a male or Sildenafil (Viagra) for erectile dysfunction in a female. Now that being said they do have other uses but you get the point—so if I talk about a drug please know that I may be talking about a specific indication as well. So with that in mind, let’s jump in!

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BiDil finds a home among Black patients—Hypertension, or high blood pressure, is one of the most common conditions across all races and sexes and is usually referred to as the “Silent Killer” because, well, it doesn’t hurt. Unlike liver failure or an infection, you won’t really see any symptoms of high blood pressure but after a decade of not treating it people do develop critical end organ damage: heart failure, kidney damage, liver damage, etc. Imagine that your veins are like a garden hose; if you put your thumb over the end of the hose the velocity of the water coming out of the hose increases meaning that there is more force. So if you have higher blood pressure, you have higher force hitting your organs. So the medical community has developed countless ways of lowering blood pressure to help save our organs and we can group those medications into a couple categories.
  • For the majority of the population we follow a pretty tried and tested protocol of drugs: first up we would use Diuretics which physically decrease the amount of fluid that is in the blood vessel. In the hose analogy this is like if you had a leak halfway up the hose lowering the amount of water exiting the hose at the end. Now there are dozens of diuretics but most people are familiar with Furosemide (Lasix) and how it makes people urinate more (y’know, to get rid of the fluid). If someone needs another agent we turn to drugs like the Angiotensin Converting Enzyme inhibitors (ACEi) or Angiotensin Receptor Blockers (ARBs). The ACEs (like Lisinopril, Enalapril, or Benazepril) and ARBs (Valsartan, Olmesartan, etc.) work by inhibiting the ability for a protein, Angiotensin, from connecting with the blood vessel wall. Angiotensin’s main job is to make the blood vessel smaller which would increase blood pressure—these drugs inhibit the action of Angiotensin thus preventing it from raising blood pressure. And our final category are drugs acting on the heart: Calcium Channel Blockers or Beta Blockers. While generally more helpful in situations like heart failure than hypertension, these drugs slow down the heart’s ability to pump blood which then lowers the force that the blood is acting on the blood vessels and organs. In a way it's like turning the faucet on the garden hose letting out less water into the hose.
    • So to summarize, the majority of people will benefit most from a Diuretic (which lowers the amount of fluid in the blood vessel), an ACEi or ARB (which prevents the blood vessels from getting smaller), and/or a CCB or BB (which lower the output of the heart).

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Hydralazine vs Isosorbide Mononitrate
  • Enter the Venous Dilators which work by directly expanding the blood vessel size. These drugs are normally used in situations where the blood vessel is obstructed, such as during a heart attack or stroke, due to a clot. Administering a Venous Dilator would expand the blood vessel allowing the blood to wiggle around the clot and relieve the symptoms of the heart attack or stroke. Two of these drugs are Hydralazine and Isosorbide Dinitrate which are used by all sexes and races to prevent the progression of a heart attack and stroke which have very good success. Both of these drugs are fairly old: Isosorbide Dinitrate was discovered in 1949 while Hydralazine was discovered in 1949 and showed fairly good efficacy for decades.
    • Enter two doctors, Jay Cohn and Peter Carson, who wanted to market a new combination drug Hydralazine/Isosorbide Dinitrate (BiDil) in 1989 for congestive heart failure. The FDA said sure, go do a trial and so the duo set out to prove that BiDil was a good option for the general population. They tested their combination in a trial called Vasodilator-Heart Failure Trial (V-HeFT) against the gold standard Enalapril (ACEi) and found that BiDil was…bad. Like really bad, in fact they had to stop the trial early because it would have been unethical to keep people on the BiDil rather than on the known treatment. So V-HeFT didn’t show that BiDil was a good option for the general population except among one subpopulation: Black patients. When you look at the use of Enalapril (and other ACEi) in Black patients we find that the efficacy is quite low. As it turns out, people of African descent have a lower response to drugs like ACEi and ARBs compared to non-Africans meaning that they are worse options for a Black person. So a patient that wasn’t responding well to a Diuretic and needed a second agent would get little help from an ACE/ARB drug. And at this point in time there were no CCB or BB!

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  • So Cohn and Carson’s drug application for BiDil was rejected in 1997 because the statistical analysis in their multi-racial study was quite bad. On the recommendation of one of the FDA’s advisory committees they stratified the data on racial lines and discovered a significant difference in response among Africans vs non-Africans. They started a new trial and enrolled 1050 African men and women showing a 43% decrease in mortality and a 39% reduction in hospitalization against placebo. They reapplied for BiDil and in 2005 the FDA approved the first ever race-based drug. To this day if you go to BiDil’s prescribing page in a drug database it will include a specific race designation because it’s only approved for a specific race. Importantly too national organizations like the American College of Cardiology and American Heart Association endorse this race based recommendation for Black patients.
    • Now this is great that we have a recommendation for a group of people that is superior to the normal regiment but there are a few complicating factors to consider. Firstly the term ‘Black patient’ isn’t really scientific—how Black does a patient need to be in order to qualify for BiDil? What kind of Black as well: African, Latin American, Caribbean, etc? Likewise this means it has to be self-reportable but what about a light-skinned Black person that was adopted and didn’t know they had Black genes? It's all very…unscientific. Recently there has been push back against this explicit race-based recommendation since other effective drugs do exist (like the CCB and BB which were discovered in 2006, one year after BiDil). There was a new study in 2022 from UCSF that talked about the role of prescribing based on race but personally I think there are too many confounders (influencing factors) like socioeconomic status to accurately say BiDil should be done away with. BiDil was shown to be effective in the Black population but how it gets applied is another story.

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Liver Enzyme Distribution affects Metabolism—Once a drug is in the body it needs to be deactivated and removed eventually. This process of deactivating a drug happens during Metabolism which primarily happens in the liver via the Cytochrome P450 Enzymes. These CYP enzymes are like little factories that take up a drug and make slight modifications that remove its ability to affect the body. Each CYP enzyme is best suited for certain drugs while some enzymes, like CYP3A4 and CYP2D6, are able to handle a higher percentage of drugs. You can see in the pie chart above that some enzymes are more important in metabolism than others.
  • That being said, the distribution of the CYP enzymes is not constant from one person to another. For example, in females they have a higher distribution of CYP3A4 than males which can be thought of them having more deactivation factories than males. This means if we were to give the same dose to a female and a male the female would metabolize the drug much faster and thus have a decreased effect. This is incredibly important because CYP3A4 accounts for 30% of all drugs including birth control, many psychiatric drugs, and chemotherapeutics meaning that females would need higher doses than males, in theory. The opposite is true for CYP2E1 which is higher in males than females and is a metabolizer of ethanol (minor) and caffeine (major) which means that higher doses of both would be needed to have the same effect male vs female. Neat eh? Like there are sex differences for CYP enzymes we are starting to discover racial differences in CYP enzymes: we have identified Polymorphisms or small genetic variability among the genes that encode the CYP enzymes. Truthfully this isn’t surprising, we know there is genetic variability in genes that affect hair or eye color, so it's not too surprising that the CYP enzymes are equally affected. What is interesting is that the racial differences in CYP enzymes can lead to wildly different enzyme activity levels that lead to clinically significant differences in drug response. Or in simpler terms, some races respond better to some drugs because they have different liver enzymes!

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  • Let’s take a look at one drug, Amitriptyline (Elavil) used for depression and anxiety, and how Polymorphisms result in changes in response. Quickly let's take a look at the metabolism: we can see that Amitriptyline is metabolized by two enzymes, CYP2D6 and CYP2C19. If it is metabolized by 2D6 first then it converts into an inactive metabolite that is eventually removed from the body. However if it first goes through 2C19 then it is converted to an active metabolite, Nortriptyline which would extend the action of the drug than if it went through 2D6. But if it does go through 2C19 then it will be handled by 2D6 into an inactive metabolite (bottom right), so either way we need 2D6 to get rid of the drug.

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  • So let’s look at what happens when we mess with the metabolism of Amitriptyline through 2D6. Well if someone is a 2D6 poor metabolizer then they would be unable to clear the drug quickly and so it would hang around in the body longer—so more anti-depression activity (and side effects). We find that up to 10% of Caucasians are poor 2D6 metabolizers meaning that they would have a better response to Amitriptyline than those who are normal metabolizers. Likewise we find that up to 51% of Asians are intermediate metabolizers which has led to an overall increased response of 74%! The flip side to this are the Ultrarapid metabolizers who would clear the drug extremely quickly through 2D6 thus leading to a decreased response to Amitriptyline. Up to 29% of Subsaharan Africans are found to be Ultrarapid metabolizers meaning that Amitriptyline (and other drugs going through 2D6) is the wrong option for them.

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  • Looking at 2C19 we see a much different distribution among the races. Remember that 2C19 converts the drug into an active metabolite which would extend the activity of the drug—if you don’t go through 2C19 then you’d have a decreased response. So patients who are Oceanian have a whopping 89% chance to be an intermediate or worse metabolizer and so a much MUCH higher chance of decreased response to Amitriptyline. Compare this to Caucasian patients who have a 32% chance to have increased activity on 2C19 meaning a potential increased response to Amitriptyline.

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  • Now is it really as simple as this? No, I am glossing over some of the finer details but I wanted to show how racial differences are a major factor in how drugs affect the body. Imagine if you had a population that had an 89% chance to have a decreased effect on birth control? Or what if you were a carrier of the HLA-B*5701 gene which means you are horribly allergic to the anti-HIV medication Abacavir (like up to 20% of Indians)? This is where the next generation of medicine comes from and the Clinical Pharmacogenetics Implementation Consortium is aiming to have their CPIC genomic guidelines become standard practice. In fact I am seeing more and more patients getting their liver enzymes done so we can see what kind of response they would have, especially if they have failed multiple drugs for a condition. Take a look at the guidelines page and see how many drugs are incorporated into the recommendations.
Regardless, pharmacogenetics has major impacts on how we treat patients every day but also may be a factor in some of the clinical disasters that we see. Afterall, 53% of Africans have decreased metabolism through CYP3A4 which is the major metabolizer of Fentanyl which may be a contributing factor why Blacks face higher overdose rates. If you haven’t, consider getting a pharmacogenomic test (many insurances will pay for it now) and unlock some secrets of your own body! Cheers!
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2023.03.06 05:25 galaxymaster Entresto sub therapeutic dose vs ACEI target dose

Due to cost reasons, a patient cannot afford to regularly take target dose of Entresto as prescribed for HF. Is there a way to evaluate whether there's greater benefit between taking an indicated ACEI at target vs sub therapeutic dose of Entresto? I'm leaning towards the ACEI but I found the following study suggesting low dose entresto might be as affective as target dose enalapril. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5095784/?report=classic
The patient isn't in the US by the way.
Thanks for the advice!
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2023.01.15 23:38 notrachelmar can somebody help me interpret my cats ultrasound?

my kitten had an ultrasound done at about 4 months old because they found she had a heart murmur. she’s about 7 months old now but i’m still a little confused on the report.
Findings: generalized cardiomegaly, lvdd 1.5 cm, fs 33% sep wnl, lad long axis 1.3 cm very dilated pulmonary artery (suspect impending left sided heart failure, or could be a result of eisenmengers- vascular pulmonary changes due to left to right shunting) subaortic VSD, 3mm, vs aorta 6.6 mm (VSD relatively large)
Doppler: left to right VSD, no other abnormalities identified, no pulmonic or tricuspid insufficiency to assess for pulmonary hypertension
Recommendations: in light of left heart enlargement and PA dilation start lasix low dose, enalapril and pimobenan assuming she is developing CHF at this time (although cannot exclude developing eisenmengers) titrate lasix based on sleeping respiratory rate, however if she is developing eisenmengers syndrome, lasix will not be effective. if eisenmengers occurs, the murmur will diminish in intensity, and she will have episodes of cyanosis with activity; sildenafil 1-2 mg/kg bid can be helpful in reducing clinical signs of eisenmengers.
this was a lot to take in at the time because she acts like a normal, playful kitten. honestly more crazy than any kitten i’ve met. she takes the 2 medications mentioned and has had regular blood tests, all looking normal. i’ve been scared because she is just a baby. i know the vet told me to limit stressful situations (which the most stress she feels is when we’re going to the vet) and try not to get her too excited. it has been so weird because she didn’t show any symptoms of something being wrong. i love her, but what does this mean for her future? they recommended a repeat ultrasound in 6 months
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2022.02.17 19:19 LEWEBBED Afraid of Missed Diagnosis in Dog Recently diagnosed with heart failure (4yo neutered M toy poodle mix)

NOTE: I am a physician, I know how often a diagnosis can be missed when there is a more urgent illness occuring
*We are likely going to euthanize our dog in the next few days if we cannot get him feeling better, specifically regarding the constipation
Our pup Ani was found in the woods at about 5 months old and was diagnosed with 2 congenital heart defects: mitral valve stenosis and PDA. Last had echo May 2021 and it was unchanged from 1.5 years before. He is an extremely hyper, silly guy. He is pretty food motivated but has always had GI issues, pretty well managed with diet control and daily probiotics. We spent a few weeks in Georgia with 4 other dogs and 2 cats (one was kitten still receiving vaccines). He is normally a drama queen and has always been very vocal about experiencing any pain. Medical hx also includes 2 ruptured anal gland abscesses (one on each side) that came on overnight both times. Had one instance of severe hematochezia in response to anesthesia when neutered at about 8 months.
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September 2021: had to have emergency surgery due to grooming injury, required anesthesia, recovered well without complications, but was noticed to be tachy when he came in after grooming, and he was started on emalapril.
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We noticed when we returned home to Pennsylvania after New Years that he was sleeping more than usual, that he was sitting a bit differently (tucking butt, sitting more on his lower back with tail tucked. He was also having more screaming episodes, even when completely relaxed, and was having some coughing episodes when we went outside in extreme cold and at night. He also seemed severely itchy and was scratching all the time.
Jan 12: We did take him to the vet. No cardiac or respiratory symptoms. Seemed a bit sensitive to extension of back legs, thought he may have a musculoskeletal strain, 2 week course of meloxicam. Blood work positive for elevated eosinophils. Changed diet and shampoo and scratching stopped, coughing stopped. He was having intermittent constipation and loose stools with some mucus, but otherwise seemed almost back to normal energy levels. He seemed to be tucking his butt a lot still.
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Early February: was having more constipation, I emptied pretty full anal glands, was able to lift tail a bit more, wagging more.
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Feb 9: Nothing notable until he refused to eat at night and seemed to be breathing a bit more shallow. We believe he pooped earlier in in the day. Slept by our heads at night which was very strange and vomitted up dog food from dinner overnight.
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Feb 10: Some more respiratory effort suddenly with some crackling but only when picked up or changing positions. Really lethargic and refusing food We went to Vet ED, xray showed mild heart enlargement (baseline) and possible colitis/pancreatitis seen on xray (just inflammation) and amylase levels high and low fever. Started on metronidazole and gabapentin for pain.
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Feb 11: TINY amount of liquid stool one time, like 3 quarters worth. Started eating small amounts of high quality proteins from our hand only. Drinking water, maybe bit less than before, peeing normally, but not pooping for several more days. It was snowing and temps were below freezing, but he wouldn't even use indoor puppy pads.
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Feb 14: Still has not pooped. Breathing seemed more labored and sounds wetter, took him to different ED where his cardiologist worked. He was worked up with echo, xray, labs, evaluated by cardiologist. Does appear he is in mild L sided congestive heart failure now with mild dorsoventral fluid. Has low fever that is almost resolved by discharge. I am pretty concerned about his breathing, (but ED says stable), level of lethargy, failure to defecate for 5 days except for tiny amt of liquid stool 4 days ago. Enalapril stopped. Started on vetmedin, spirinolactone, furosemide with 2.5 week follow-up with cardiology scheduled. Told to stop gapapentin and metronidazole.
link for xray images (I did not see read): https://keystone.asteris.com/#/partneviewePTTSBRGVET?studyId=efa01b4a-0000-1431-1615-ffffff220214
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Feb 16: NO CHANGE. Still very fast shallow breathing (rr 60 on avg) but without crackling or wetness, urinating and peeing but not noticably more than before. has had 3 doses of new meds. Eating bit more from our hands today. Tinu bit more active today. Really considering that it's time to euthanize. Spoke to cardiology few times, she has some concern for kidney failure, some concern that he could have bacterial infection due to poor heart pumping. We did find small amounts of very loose stool today, did not see him, but he was in room with us and we didn't hear anything abnormal.
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TODAY: My main concern at this point is still pretty severe lethargy, but he will still lick my face for literally hours if I let him. He will get up for water. Seemed to have less trouble going up and down stairs. Definitely eating bit better today. I did do some massages for constipation yesterday and he seems to be sensitive to his tail base area. I can't be sure, but I do feel like there is some swelling in his lower colon/rectal area above his tail (not at rectal opening). He really doesn't like the base of his tail or lower back touched.
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I was wondering if anybody could take a look at his xrays. What is weird is that we have definitely noticed our other F 7yo toy poodle have some wheezing and loose stool with mucus over the last few weeks, but nothing else abnormal. I was just wondering if there is any chance that the new heart failure in dog could be due to a seperate stress, possibly something neurological or infectious, that has caused a heart failure exacerbation vs. the other way around. His belly is not distended or tympanic, but there is no way he can feel good without having had a real BM in a week. I am considering giving him a small volume enema or manually disimpacting him, buT I don't want to stress his heart more or cause him more pain. His breathing is definitely better, and I am wondering if his CHF meds are working, but that there is something else going on explaining the constipation and lethargy and low grade fevers.
We understand that if he doesn't respond to CHF meds, there are no other great options for him from cardiac standpoint other than euthanasia, but I am honestly not convinced that that this is what is going on. I do not want him to spend one of his possibly last days in another ED with me in the car, but I'm willing to consider it if I had any reason to believe that maybe he is suffering from a secondary illness as his breathing and eating have both improved, he is still drinking and urinating, and seems to have slightly better strength today.
Would love to hear any and all thoughts.
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2021.11.10 22:24 JP1021 WebMD Kava Article Discussion

Hello kava lovers!
I took quite a bit of time today to dig into this. It's been a long running issue that when you type in "Kava" in google you get some dubious results on the first page. I'm taking it upon myself to list those here, and refute them where they have issues.
Search Results for "Kava" on google in incognito window.
Result 1: Webmd
  1. Overview
  1. No issues with point one.
  1. And my issues start here. “Cases of liver damage and even some deaths have been traced to kava use” is a hotly contested conclusion, and rather inflammatory when such paltry evidence exists to support it. The paragraph then goes on to state “However, most countries have allowed kava to return to the market since that time.” My issue here is; why are we not seeing these cases of liver failures and injury in countries where it’s freely available today, if it’s as liver toxic as it was said to be?
  1. “But there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.” Hilariously they give quite good scientific evidence to support these uses directly in their references. Kava and kava extracts have been proven in double blind placebo controlled studies to reduce anxiety scores, and increase sleep duration/quality.
  2. How does it work?
  1. No issues with this. This has been demonstrated repeatedly in research.
  2. Possibly Effective for
  1. Strangely, they just got finished saying there is no good scientific information on which to support these theories. Extra note: WS-1490 is an extract that has been embroiled in controversy. The extract is contested on the grounds that it was changed several times throughout the research periods from an ethanolic extract to an acetonic extract with no indication. You can see this by noting how the kavalactone percentage changes arbitrarily from 30% to 70%.
  2. Possibly Ineffective for
  1. They conveniently don’t mark their sources in the article, but this one comes from Dr. Sarris in Australia in 2020. This research concluded that kava was more suitable for the reduction in stress and tension related to ‘situational’ anxiety, than it was for direct treatment of G.A.D.
  2. Insufficient Evidence for
  1. It can reduce anxiety, but the actual physical withdrawal is not treated by any action of the kavalactones themselves. It’s likely that the steady tapering of the BZP drug was what allowed these participants to cease their use with less acute withdrawal. Kava definitely helps, but it has different actions at the GABA-A receptor that are not similar to that of benzodiazepine drugs. Benzos target the BZP allosteric site on the GABA-A receptor where they exert their effect. Kava and flumazenil (a very potent anti-benzo or BZP antagonist) were administered at the same time in studies, and the effect of kava was not blocked.
  1. I would say this “insufficient evidence” is actually an order of magnitude more studied and documented than the “liver damage” at the very beginning of this article. I’ve added additional citations below this papers citations, and I stopped citing at 12 research studies that show anti-cancer effects.
  1. The World Health organization monograph (2002) describes insomnia as a state supported by clinical data. This is generally accepted, however there were participants in studies on kava that dropped out due to insomnia complaints. While kava is overall a good fit for sleep issues, it likely won’t present that way to 100% of the people who drink it. We actually do see people complain about not being able to get to sleep after a strong kava. I say this to agree with the above paragraph where it states the research is inconsistent. It helps me with sleep, but that doesn’t mean it will be the same for everyone.
  1. While maybe insufficient, there is good evidence to support this. Two individual studies found improvement in mood, reduction in depression, and reduction in anxiety in perimenopausal individuals.
  1. This is an odd one to say has insufficient evidence. A number of researchers including Münte, Sarris, Cropley, and Aporosa have found kava reduces symptoms associated with mentally stressful tasks.
  1. This is in line with reality. We only see glimpses into kava’s ability to modulate glutamate. Kavain was shown to inhibit veratridine-activated sodium channels. It’s possible that kava may help reduce seizures, but as said, there is insufficient evidence to say it precisely.
  1. This I don’t agree with, and it’s a strange one to be saying there’s insufficient evidence for. Kava has marked antinociceptive (pain relieving) and muscle-relaxing properties. A good number of independent research studies have confirmed this.
  1. I’m not really sure what to say here. I suppose it’s quite accurate to say that there is insufficient evidence for kava causing superhero-like powers to emerge.
  2. Side Effects
  1. This is good, and goes pretty far based on the double blind placebo controlled studies. The one issue I have is the 6 month limit. There really isn’t any indication that taking kava beyond this time frame causes issues, it’s just when they cut the time limit of the study. Empirical evidence suggests kava, when consumed as a beverage, is safe indefinitely as shown by the South Pacific people who drink kava on a daily basis and have for generations. In regards to driving, I fully agree. If you’re consuming anything that makes you question your abilities with driving, call an ubelyft.The risk is simply not worth it.
  1. That’s pretty honest, however the phrase “The use of kava for as little as 1-3 months has resulted in the need for liver transplants and even death in some people” really understates “some people”. The number of individuals allegedly harmed by kava is limited to less than 10. There has been no intrinsic (unable to be separated) toxicity seen in kava or any kava extracts, however idiosyncratic reactions of the immunologic type have occurred. This is extremely rare. I can’t say that enough. We’re talking on the scale of winning the lottery, being hit by lightning, and finding Jimmy Hoffa all at the same instant. If we turn our attention to things such as green tea extracts or acetaminophen we see intrinsic, predictable toxicity to the liver. This does not exist with kava.
  2. Special Precautions and Warnings
  1. They’re speaking about kavalactones, and they’re not “dangerous chemicals” however we don't fully understand the function of GABAergic substances on the developing brain. Kavalactones are known as lipophilic, meaning they tend to combine or dissolve in fats. This means they could likely also pass on through breastfeeding. There is no data confirming this suspicion, however with no experience available, kava is not recommended for use by pregnant or breast-feeding women. It’s much better to err on the side of caution. In regards to kava affecting the uterus, I’m afraid there is absolutely nothing confirming this. It’s an old myth from Fiji that kava stimulates the uterus, this doesn’t happen, and shouldn’t be listed as a precaution. Histopathology was performed on rats at 2.0g/kg of kavalactones and found no-effect level on the uterus. (2012. “Toxicology and Carcinogenesis Studies of Kava Kava Extract (CAS No. 9000-38-8) in F344/N Rats and B6C3F1 Mice (gavage Studies).” National Toxicology Program 571 (1): 1–186. https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/publications/reports/t500s/tr571/index.html)
  1. Well this sounds familiar. This will be the 3rd time this website has decided it was pertinent to warn us of liver damage. What they’ll throw at you sometimes is the instance of GGT elevation in metabolism tests seen in kava users in the late 80s and early 90s in Australia's Northern Territory. This is NOT indicative of liver damage. It indicates liver adaptation and is seen in kava drinkers that consume about a pound of dried kava per week. AST and ALT increases are not seen. I would even go as far to say here that kava is not even detrimental to those with liver problems. Kava is not intrinsically toxic to the liver in any way.
  1. This one is interesting. You have research on one side saying kava has no or very little activity at dopamine, then you have other research indicating that some kavalactones drop dopamine levels considerably. The one kavalactone in question here is Yangonin. Yangonin has shown in research to lower dopamine to below detectable levels. I personally believe that this is happening evidenced by the extrapyramidal movements seen in kava drinkers that went way overboard. They end up looking like they have parkinsons. If you are on medication such as levodopa that is specifically meant to increase free dopamine levels in the brain, kava can counteract this effect and cause the resurgence of parkinson's symptoms. So yes, I agree with this statement. If you have parkinsons it’s best to skip the kava.
  1. This is not talked about very much but should be taken into close consideration when approaching a surgery. Kava has many properties that haven’t been studied all that intensively. Kava has shown to have some mild antithrombotic actions. This means it may be able to prevent, to a degree, blood clotting. Give yourself at least a week if not two before any surgery to let your system flush out. Kava has also been shown to increase the sedation of anesthetic drugs. You’ll want to observe this just to be on the safe side.
  2. Major Interactions
  1. Agreed
  1. Agreed as well. Sedation seems to be the pharmacodynamic interaction here.
  2. Moderate Interactions
  1. I believe this to be correct. Levodopa is a medication meant to increase the levels of dopamine in the brain. Yangonin can decrease dopamine levels in the brain and counteract this medication.
  1. This is also correct. CYP1A2 is the pathway of metabolization for caffeine. Kava causes inhibitory actions at this pathway and as such causes caffeine to appear in serum levels for much longer than without kava in the system. The individual effect of this combination may differ from person to person. CYP1A2 activity has a range of 40% between individuals. As such it’s quite difficult to make predictions of which drugs will do what when this pathway is inhibited.
  1. Correct as well; however, issues at this cytochrome with drugs that use this pathway are not heavily researched in regards to kava. They generally encompass the sedative effects and their increase when in combination with the drugs above. Caution should still be taken when combining these drugs with kava as it will likely make them stay in your system for considerably longer periods of time. DMY seems to be the most potent inhibitory kavalactone in this regard.
  1. This inhibition was seen strongest with methysticin, the number 6 on chemotypes. The effect seen with methysticin was low, with only 1% of the strength of their positive control (Sulfaphenazole). I truly believe this would not have a strong impact on drugs that also use this pathway being kava/kavalactones have such a low affinity for it.
  1. This is incorrect. Kava has no inhibition property at this cytochrome even at absurdly high concentrations, and as such this is wrong.
  1. Again methysticin is the only kavalactone shown to interact with this cytochrome and it does it quite weakly. I wouldn’t suspect any immediate issues with drugs that use this pathway combined with kava.
  1. This effect, if present, will be very light. Kava has shown very slight inhibitory properties at CYP3A4 with methysticin being the most potent inhibitor. Methysticin has shown to be about 1% the inhibitory properties of their positive control, Ketoconazole. I would not expect major interactions with pharmaceuticals along this pathway with kava.
  1. A single dose of 800mg kavain gave a serum concentration level of 40ng/ml or .1um. This plasma level is unlikely to cause any significant inhibition of P-gp in vivo. Also, 800mg of kavain is quite unlikely to be consumed at once in a typical kava consuming session. The likelihood of inhibition here is very low. Results obtained in vitro vs in vivo were contradictory.
  1. It should be obvious to limit the intake of liver toxic compounds, however some of them are rather ubiquitous. Acetaminophen, also known as APAP, Panadol, Paracetamol, and Tylenol is a potent hepatotoxic drug due to its metabolites. Kava likely does not interact with these drugs other than APAP. There is research leaning to indicate that the combination of APAP and kava should be avoided on the issue of glutathione degradation. IF kava does indeed reduce glutathione levels, mixing it with APAP would increase its toxicity.
  2. Dosing
  3. Paragraph 1 “By Mouth: For anxiety: 50-100 mg of a specific kava extract (WS 1490, Dr. Willmar Schwabe Pharmaceuticals), taken three times daily for up to 25 weeks, has been used. Also, 400 mg of another specific kava extract (LI 150, Lichtwer Pharma) taken daily for 8 weeks has been used. Five kava tablets each containing 50 mg of kavalactones have been taken in three divided doses daily for one week. One to two kava extract tablets has been taken twice daily for 6 weeks. Calcium supplements plus 100-200 mg of kava taken daily for 3 months have also been used.”
  4. This really doesn’t tell us anything to go by for our own personal dosing. In truth, there is no recommended dosage for powdered kava. These dosage recommendations come from several studies as well as the German Commission E. I take it that these numbers indicate the minimum amount of kavalactones it requires to see any effect without seeing intoxication. Seeing that many of us aim for intoxication these numbers are simply meaningless.
Citations Removed for length. See kavaforums post for full citations.
Kavaforums Discussion Thread: https://kavaforums.com/forum/threads/webmds-article-on-kava.19070/
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2021.07.01 20:43 GiddyPower Thoughts on this Vetmedin dose and dosage regimen: daily dose and frequency?

Our 6 year old Shih Tzu was recently diagnosed with a grade 3 or 4 heart murmur. The vet prescribed Vetmedin along with Lasix and Enalapril.
Can a vet etc. give me their qualified opinion on this specific dose and dosage regimen of Vetmedin?:5 mg for an 18.6 pound dog (~8.44 kg) once per day.

I realize no one can give me specific instructions. Just looking for opinions and maybe the why etc.

Additional Info: We weren't given any inserts or info other than what is on the pill bottles. For the Vetmedin bottle it says:
5 MG: Give 1 tablet orally once daily for life.
After doing some research I had some questions and concerns about the dose and frequency.Everything I've read seems to indicate pimobendan should be given on an empty stomach, ideally an hour before eating. Pretty much everything I can find on the drug indicates the daily dose should be given in 2 doses. From the way I understand how the med works and what it does, it makes sense why the daily dose would be split up in 2 doses about 12 hours part.
Would the 1x vs 2x per day change based on whether this was the name brand med vs a compounded tablet? The vet never mentioned this being a generic but they don't look like any of the name brand Vetmedin chews or tablets I see on the web. These are a white tablet scored in an angular quad tab shape with no other markings.
I'm assuming these are a compounded generic formula the vet is getting because of the Vetmedin shortages. . . which I also just got to learn about on my own! From what I've seen online, most of the compounded tablet versions are just treated like generics and the daily dose is recommended split in two doses about 12 hours apart.
I've decided to break the tablets in half for now and am giving her the daily dose in 2 equal doses 12 hours apart.

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2021.04.10 17:24 WBKouvenhoven DD on Novartis (NVS), and their role in the treatment of opioid dependence disorder

This is my first DD post, so bear (or bull) with me
(C+C appreciated, as I had a lot of fun researching and writing this)
Stock Ticker: NVS
Market: NYSE
Name: Novartis
Category; Pharmaceuticals
Why investigate this stock?
With the opioid crisis and its ramifications coming into the media spotlight, there has been an increasing body of research into the use of suboxone for treatment of opioid dependence disorder (ODD). For those of you unfamiliar with suboxone, it is a combination of buprenorphine-naloxone. This medication acts as a partial opioid agonist, and the naloxone component helps prevent abuse. In toxicology and "Medication Assisted Treatment" circles, it is becoming favored over methadone due to decreased side effect profile and decreased potential for abuse. Recently, some states have significantly expanded training programs so providers can easily obtain an “X waiver”, which is a qualification required for a medical provider to prescribe suboxone. This suggests that it will be increasingly used in Emergency Departments to initiate ODD treatment, and it will see increasing use in the outpatient clinic setting.
So why Novartis?
For those of you familiar with Suboxone’s history, it is actually made by the drug company Reckitt Benckiser. However, recently they authorized a generic version which is to be distributed by, you guessed it, Novartis (technically a subsidiary Sandoz, but all traded under the ticker NVS)
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/indivior-launches-generic-suboxone/#:~:text=Share%20Article-,UK%2Dbased%20pharmaceutical%20company%20Indivior%20has%20launched%20a%20generic%20version,drug%20on%20behalf%20of%20Indivior.
I’m not saying that generic suboxone is going to be “the next big thing”, however I think it will be mainstay of ODD treatment moving forward in the US given low cost, increasing ease of access, and low(er) side effect profile when compared to other medications for ODD. (Some of you may remember Vivitrol aka long acting Naltrexone, see the head to head vs suboxone here: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32812-X/fulltext32812-X/fulltext))
Now let’s look into some aspects of the stock itself.
P/E Ratio: ~ 24
S/p 500 P/E: ~ 34
I like to look at the P/E ratio as a good starting point to see if the stock is oveunder valued compared to its earnings. This can suggest the ability to weather downturns in a market that trends towards over-valuing stocks compared to their real world earnings.
Next, the relative strength index (RSI). For those of you unfamiliar it is a momentum indicator (I have my own opinions on momentum investing, which I can talk about in a different post). Whether you fall on the side of a value investor or a momentum investor, I think it’s an interesting index to take a look at for any stock, and can help you “time” your purchase. Remember, there is no end all be all market index. Regardless, the RSI was developed in 1978 and evaluates price changes to determine if a stock is overbought or oversold. The RSI is listed from 0-100, with a value < 30 suggesting that a stock is undervalued, and should be bought. A value > 70 suggests a stock is overvalued and should be sold. If you’re interested, take a look into how it is calculated to see why a higher RSI suggests overvalue.
Anyways, the RSI of Novartis as of this post is 54.4, with a steady trend upwards since February. So what does that suggest? Basically that it is neither overbought or oversold, but has a trend towards being overbought, which doesn’t help us much. .
Here’s a few good resources to check RSI on stocks you’re interested in:
https://aiolux.com/reports/analytics-technical-indicators?symbol=NVS&tab_name=rsi
https://www.profitspi.com/stock/view.aspx?v=stock-chart&uv=100563
Looking at the financials of NVS for Q4, they are reassuring.
See here for financial stats, but they can easily be googled otherwise:
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVS:NYSE?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW0N377vPvAhXVVs0KHekcCSgQ3ecFMAB6BAgZEBo
The company demonstrated strong Q4 performance, with increases in Revenue, Net Income, and Profit Margins. However, using the golden rule that past performance is not indicative of future performance (except when one takes advantage of specific aspects of momentum investing, again to be discussed in a later post), I would not recommend using financial performance metrics to guide purchases (especially in highly volatile markets), but they do give you a snapshot of the company’s current financial environment.
Above I’m suggesting that generic suboxone will likely provide a value to the company overtime, as suboxone gains prominence in treatment of ODD. However, what else is NVS up to?
COVID 19
No covid 19 therapeutics, however Novartis is assisting Pfizer and CureVac in production capacity. Specifically, they will be assisting in filling the vials. I don’t think this will contribute much financially, but it’s good PR, and lets face it good for human kind.
Current Pharmaceuticals
Novartis is one of the largest pharma companies in the world, so I’m not going to go into an exhaustive list of their products. You can find them on the wikipedia page here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novartis#Pharmaceuticals
However, many of their drugs have good staying power. Of note, they make Entresto, an Angiotensin-Neprilysin inhibitor. For my renal nerds out there take a look at the mechanism, really awesome stuff.. There was a lot of buzz in the medical community about Entresto a few years back. This NEJM trial was huge, showing that the Angiotensin-Neprilysin inhibition was superior to Enalapril in reducing risks of death and hospitalization. For those of you who aren’t familiar, Enalapril is an ACE inhibitor medication which has become a mainstay in the treatment of heart failure.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1409077
Digital Health
Novartis recently partnered with Science 37, who has developed an interesting system for virtual clinical trials. COVID 19 was a catalyst for digital health, and I think companies that provide telehealth platforms are going to continue to grow. Many patients love the telehealth option, and often opt for it over an in-person visit for many smaller medical issues/checkups.
Clinical Trials
As a large pharmaceutical company, Novartis has a well established clinical pipeline for research. I find that betting on the “next big thing” or breakthrough in therapy is typically a losing bet, especially because you have no idea what the results will be as molecular therapies and typical pharmaceuticals go through the rigorous phases of clinical trials. It is a better to bet on a company that has a lot of experience bringing products to market, with a large research pool to pull from. This article has a great table demonstrating the “success rates” of various drug classes coming to market:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/11/clinical-trial-success-rates-phase-and-therapeutic-area-14845#:~:text=As%20shown%2C%20the%20overall%20probability,have%20a%2033.4%25%20success%20rate.
(Spoiler: It’s not good)
Overall, NVS has demonstrated steady growth, and is a huge pharmaceutical manufacturer. They have a large pool of research and will be responsible for the generic version of Suboxone, which I believe will have a strong role in treatment of ODD moving forward in the opiate crisis. The technicals on NVS are pretty middle of the road, with a reassuring P/E ratio and a dead center RSI. I think it would be a good value investment in the long term, but short term gains may be difficult.
Finally, what I think is appropriate for the end of all DD posts, is that this isn’t me telling you to buy or sell this stock. Rather, I’ve compiled some information about the company that should be a starting point for your own research and evaluation
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2021.02.04 20:11 Phephito Your thoughts on fatigue caused by meds..

Vegan for exactly 2 months. I quit alcohol and cigarettes 6 years ago. My diabetes is in remission territory. Lost 45lbs in a year. Finally found an anti-depressant that works phenomenally well.
I should be good, right?
My hypertension has been in check for about 3 years now. I often get readings of 110//65. The problem is the blood pressure meds fatigue me to the ultimate degree. I could describe the feeling with endless similes but suffice it to say I often feel like I'm carrying 100lb shoulder weights going up a steep hill. I state that in case anyone recommends exercising more.
My current slate of drugs are Coreg, Cozaar, and Norvasc. I'll be working with my cardiologist to trial and error new combos or new drugs. It may take some time but it'll be worth finding new therapies for my HBP.
My question/comment: 1. Does anyone have this specific problem? 2. Is anyone taking a different class of drug (beta-blocker vs. ace inhibitor)? 3. Does your medication zap your energy?
Sorry this is so long. Looking for as much info to be as educated as I can be. I have posted this to different forums. Thanks.
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2016.09.12 06:22 HospitalistSkeptic What are some landmark clinical trials that actually had major flaws that went ignored?

Last fall when the SPRINT results came in, I thought it seemed strange for a major trial to find something unexpected on a question that has been so thoroughly investigated previously. Now, it turns out, there was a reason for it - an unconventional means of measuring blood pressure, and one that was not disclosed in the initial paper: http://cardiobrief.org/2016/08/28/cardiologists-thumbs-down-to-sprint/
This got me wondering. What other major trials are out there, which have altered our collective practice, but which actually had major flaws that should have tempered people's excitement about the results?
For example, in ROCKET-AF (rivaroxaban for AF), the fact that the point-of-care meters for INR measurement in the warfarin arm were defective and ended up being recalled after the study was published.
Or in PARADIGM-HF (Entresto vs. enalapril in heart failure) with its lack of true control arm.
It doesn't mean that these studies' conclusions were necessarily wrong, per se, but rather that they should be taken with a bigger grain of salt.
What are some other studies that we should be reconsidering?
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2016.06.07 15:47 mazantaz Entresto (sacubitril/valsartan) Discussion

Hey everyone, I wanted to have a discussion about Entresto. I read the trial (PRARADIGM-HF) and had some questions and possible discussion points.
Why Enalapril? Authors stated that it's because of published information in: OVERTURE CONSENSUS SOLVD-Treatment SOLVD-Prevention
While I haven't been practicing long at all (<1year), I personally have most commonly seen Lisinopril prescribed for HFrEF/HFpEF patients. Were the results from the Enalapril trials overwhelmingly better than results published for Lisinopril even though those weren't directly compared?
I couldn't find any head-to-head trials with Enalapril vs. Lisinopril, just non-inferiority type trials.
"Furberg CD, Pitt B. Are all angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors interchangeable?. J Am Coll Cardiol. 2001;37(5):1456-60." - Poses the conclusion that they aren't all interchangeable, but then again where is the evidence to choose enalapril?
Captopril, enalapril, ramipril and trandolapril have been proven independently in their own respective large scale trails. This is certainly true among beta-blockers. Certain proven beta-blockers (Coreg, Bystolic, Toprol-XL) ARE in fact proven for HF, while that is not true class-wide.
What are your all's thoughts? I think the results from the Entresto trial are amazing, I just wanted to discuss some points of how it was tested.
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2013.04.26 17:18 maxwellhill In India over 2,644 died during clinical trial of drugs in 7 years: 'Clinical trial of two drugs - Bayer's Rivaroxaban and Novartis's Aliskiren vs. Enalapril - accounted for maximum number of deaths.'

In India over 2,644 died during clinical trial of drugs in 7 years: 'Clinical trial of two drugs - Bayer's Rivaroxaban and Novartis's Aliskiren vs. Enalapril - accounted for maximum number of deaths.' submitted by maxwellhill to worldnews [link] [comments]


2012.08.21 03:11 5000klances My dad is taking too many prescriptions, and I think it's making his problems worse not better. How do I approach this?

OK, my dad is 71 and has a lot of health problems:
1) diabetes mellitus 2) proliferative diabetic retinopathy 3) hypertension 4) fluid retention in legs 5) painful random muscle spasms in back 6) cellulitis in leg (possibly resolved)
He has a number of complaints:
1) pain from back spasms 2) poor vision (better now retinopathy being treated) 3) confusion and irritability 5) frequent hypoglycemic episodes 6) episodes of shortness of breath and distress 7) malaise
Today I took him to the eye doctor, for an intravitreal injection of avastin to treat his retinopathy. The doctor said he was responding well to this. Well and good. I happened to go through his chart, and took a look at his lab report from his GP. This included an HBA1C and general blood chemistry. Most of this looked OK, though his A1C and fasting glucose were a little high.
Then I got a look at his prescription list, which is something I had never seen before. From memory:
for circulatory issues 1) cozaar 2) plavix 3) lasix (3 days a week apparently?) 4) something else I did not recognize, likely a beta blocker (but not enalapril)
for diabeted mellitus 5) humalog 6) lantus 7) metformin 8) glyburide
for back spasms 9) naproxen sodium (possibly discontinued) 10) flexaril (sp?) 11) vicodin (really!?)
for other stuff 12) iron supplement (wtf!?) 13) some sort of statin for choleserol 14) doxycycline (possibly discontinued) 15) cephalexin (possibly discontinued) 16) an unfamiliar prescription I did not recognize. Not an SSRI or benzodiazapene, tho. 17) avastin, intravitreal
Damn, that's lot of prescriptions! No wonder he feels like crap.
He insists he needs to take the humalog on a set dosage on a set schedule, which I know is wrong. When he does take it, he frequently gets hypoglycemic. I think that's because he does not pay attention to the amount of carb he's eating, and also because he is taking the glyburide. I told him, I think he should go low carb. he could lose all the diabetes meds except maybe metformin and lantus, and also drop the statin, which I understand from a lot of people statins can make you feel lousy.
As far as the other stuff - a blood thinner, 2 bp meds, a diruretic, a muscle relaxant, an nsaid, and a narcotic pain killer? And an IRON SUPPLEMENT? Wtf!!! No wonder he has confusion and irritability! I mean, I realize he could be having some early signs of dementia, but come on!
Personally, I think a lot of his BP and muscle spasm problems are due to anxiety. He's not taking an anti-depressant, or actually, I think an anti-anxiety (valium? ativan?) might be better for him. I realize a beta blocker is still indicated because of his diabetes, but he gets so freaked and disoriented sometimes it would be funny if it were not so distressing to him and me.
I have repeatedly offered to go to his GP appointments to talk to her to see about straightening all this stuff out... but I am sure she did not prescribe ALL this stuff. Yes, he has a lot of health problems, but part of a winning strategy here is to know how to approach this smartly, as opposed to taking the shotgun approach. Any insights, reddit? Am I off base here? Does anyone have any suggestions?
tl;dr - dad takes too many prescriptions... how to help? a
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