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Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - Jackson v. AEG Live Day 15

2024.05.21 15:01 FelicitySmoak_ Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - Jackson v. AEG Live Day 15

Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - Jackson v. AEG Live Day 15
Trial Day 15
Katherine, Rebbie and Trent Jackson are at court.
LA Times reported that the Jacksons offered a settlement.
Kevin Boyle , a lawyer for Katherine Jackson and Michael's kids , said they offered to settle the lawsuit against AEG, but that they never got an answer. Kevin Boyle said the family made the offers in January & March. Boyle would not provide details but said AEG's insurance would have paid, which means they could have settled the case without them paying a dime of their money. He said AEG has never offered to settle & they haven't apologized.
Marvin Putnam, an attorney for AEG, said it was inappropriate to discuss settlement discussions:
"We don't settle matters that are utterly baseless. We believe that is the case in this matter. I can't see why we would consider a settlement as anything other than a shakedown"
CNN Reports there was a snack controversy during trial: AEG lawyers gave a bag of peppermint candy to the bailiff to hand out to the jury this week. Even Katherine Jackson enjoyed the treat but Jackson's lawyer raised an objection, suggesting jurors might be influenced if they realized the source of the sweets. A compromise was reached. Each side can provide snacks for jurors, but they'll be placed at the bailiff's desk before jurors enter court so they have no clue who brought it.
Shawn Trell Testimony
Jackson direct
AEG Live General Counsel, Shawn Trell, told jurors that he had forgotten that Kenny Ortega was working under a signed contract.
Trell said he met with his attorneys last night and reviewed one doc -- Kenny Ortega's contract.
"He had a written contract," Trell said. "I remember the email dynamic. I'm not too proud to admit that I didn't recall the cover contract," Trell said he was changing his previous testimony to add that Ortega had a written contract, not only emails between him and AEG
Next topic was Insurance: Cancellation/Non-Appearance/Sickness. Trell said he started working on insurance for the tour in November of 2008. Panish showed several chains of emails where the parties talked about the insurance for the tour
Email from Bob Taylor insurance broker to Trell on 1/7/09:
"Prior to speaking with carriers we ask the artist to attend medical with a doctor...A full medical with both blood/urine tests. The doctor also wants to review the medical records over the last 5 years to ensure full disclosure. Insurers require further medical examination to be carried out by their nominated doctor. They may restrict illness coverage or death from illness coverage until this examination has taken place"
Email from 4/30/09 - Wooley to Trell :
"We have no coverage against Michael sickness unless and until he submits to another medical in London
Email from 5/28/09 - Trell to Taylor:
"We really need to get that medical done"
Email from 6/23/09 - Trell to Taylor :
"Any update on the availability of Term insurance?" (life insurance)
Trell said if they secured life insurance, they would get money if Michael died.
"We would get the money owed to us, yes," Trell testified.
Trell also said he continued discussions with an insurance broker about additional coverage to recoup AEG Live's investment if the tour had to be canceled.
Email from 6/24/09 -Taylor to Trell :
"Insurers have refused to move on this. Huge amount of speculation in the media regarding artist's health. They feel if they're to consider providing illness to cover this particular artist, they must have very through medical report"
Email from 6/25/09 - Gongaware to Taylor :
"If we don't get sickness coverage, we are dropping this policy"
Email from 6/25/09 - Taylor to Gongaware :
"The consultation in London is critical. The doctor is holding the afternoon of the 6th July open at Harley St. But keep in mind the visit could take 2 hours plus"
Next topic: Budget/Costs. Panish showed an email from AEG's Rick Webking to Michael's estate with 1st report of artist advances/expenses. This was a letter sent to the estate containing the expenses incurred, Trell said.
"It seems to me we submitted this report for their review, I don't see any request for payment," Trell said.
Trell said he spoke with Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware about Michael's physical condition prior to coming to testify.
"I had heard about rehearsals in which Mr. Jackson was fantastic," Trell said
Trell said he's aware of email from Ortega saying doctor was not allowing Michael to attend rehearsal on June 14, 2009.
"I was aware of the doctor not allowing him to attend rehearsal," Trell said
Email from 6/17/09 from Phillips:
"...Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo, and his doctor Conrad from Vegas and I have an intervention with him to get him to focus and come to rehearsal"
Email from 6/17/09 from Gongaware to Phillip's assistant:
"We need a physical therapist and a nutritionist"
Email from Production Manager - Gongaware/Phillips on 6/19/09 :
"Paul/Randy I'm not bring a drama queen here. Kenny asked me to notify you both Michael was sent home without stepping foot on stage. He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet, be hurt. The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive"
Email from Randy Phillips to Tim Leiweke on 6/19/09 :
"We have a huge problem here."
"I think he recognized there was a problem on the 19th," Trell said. "I would take it seriously, as I believe Mr. Phillips did."
Trell agreed with a statement by plaintiff's attorney, Brian Panish, that company executives knew by then there was a "deep issue" with Jackson
Does Trell consider that exchange a "red flag" that AEG Live should have noticed, Panish asked.
"I would take it seriously, as I believe Mr. Phillips did," Trell answered. "I don't know I would use the word 'red flag'
One of the emails shown to the jury was from Jackson estate co-executor John Branca, sent 5 days before Jackson's death & marked 'confidential':
"I have the right therapist/spiritual advisosubstance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped Mike Tyson get sober and paroled) Do we know whether there is a substance issue involved (perhaps better discussed on the phone)
The email was sent the same day that a meeting was held at Jackson's home with Murray. No further info given to jury.
Trell said Mr. Phillips never told him about this email
Email from Ortega to Randy Phillips on 6/20/09: (chain of emails)
"I honestly don't think he is ready for this based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state"
Trell said he didn't see these emails. He said he spoke with Randy Phillips about Phillips' perception of Michael, in order to prepare for testifying, but not about specific emails. Trell has been designated as the most qualified person to speak on behalf of AEG
Email from Phillips to Gongaware on 6/20/09 at 1:52 am :
"Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I'm not sure what the problem is Chemical or Physiological?"
From Gongaware to Phillips, on 6/20/09 at 5:59 am :
"Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night?"
From Phillips to Gongaware, on 6/20/09 at 2:01 pm :
"He is not a psychiatrist so I'm not sure how effective he can be at this point obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper"
Trell said Randy Phillips went to a handful of rehearsals, three at the Forum and two at Staples Center. The head of the marketing department attended rehearsal on June 23, 2009.
"She was blown away by it," Trell testified.
He said he was unaware of issues with Jackson at rehearsals.
"I knew of no problems with Michael Jackson at all",Trell testified.
Trell said he never saw the emails from Phillips directing people to exclude images from This Is It of Michael looking "skeletal" while rehearsing.
"What were his observations of Michael's physical condition during rehearsal," Trell said. "I asked for his (Phillips) personal opinion."
Next line of questioning is about human resources and background checks. Trell said they can be valuable and useful tools when hiring. Background check costs around $40 to $125. Trell said AEG Live could afford this fee. "We don't do background checks on independent contractors," Trell said. Trell said he was involved in the hiring by AEG Live for the This Is It tour. His department was responsible for retaining independent contractors. Trell said he is not familiar with background check process for hiring.
"I am not familiar with the process of doing background checks," Trell said. "No training."
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Panish: "There was no hiring criteria for the This Is It tour, correct?"
Trell: "Not to my knowledge"
Trell testified that when it comes to independent contractors, they have either worked with the artists, AEG or known in the industry. Trell agreed that no background check was done on anyone working on the This Is It tour. AEG Live General Counsel Shawn Trell told jurors that no legal or financial checks were done involving Conrad Murray or anyone else who worked as an independent contractor on the This Is It shows.
Depending on the nature of the position, a background could be done, Trell said, like for potential employees in the financial area. Trell said he thought a background check would be appropriate for people working in financial roles, but not tour personnel who weren't employees of AEG
As to independent contractors, Trell said there's no supervision and monitoring like there's for employees
Panish: "You don't do anything to check into background, supervise or protect the artist?"
Trell: "No, safety is a concern"
Trell said that AEG did not hire Murray, that the doctor was like many independent contractors,
"When they leave the environment, what they do on their own time is their own business"
Trell testified he doesn't believe the artist is more at risk because AEG Live doesn't do background checks
"We did nothing to monitor Dr. Murray," Trell said. "We did not monitor whatever it was that he was doing, no."
"It called for Michael Jackson being able to terminate Dr. Murray at will," Trell said about the contract. "If the concerts didn't go forward, and he was terminated under this provision, Dr. Murray would not be paid going forward," Trell explained
As to Dr Murray being under dire financial straits, Trell said that he doesn't know if he agrees with it, everyone's perception is different
Trell: "I certainly wasn't aware of it at the time"
Panish: "Because you didn't check, right?"
Trell: "That's right"
"I don't think conflict of interests are a good thing, and we would want to prevent it," Trell said
Email from Kathy Jorie to Shawn Trell on 6/24/09 at 12:54 am:
Subject: Revised agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. MurrayIt had two attachments Attachments: Revised Michael Jackson -AEG GCA Holdings Murray Agreement 6-18-09 Final MJ -- AEG GCA Holdings Agreement (Dr. Murray) 6-23-09
Email chain from 6/23/09, 5:39pm from Jorrie to Wooley, Murray
Subject: RE: Michael Jackson - Revised Agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray Email:
"I have redlined the Word version so that you can see all of the revisions. In addition, I've attached clean PDF version for execution" (The email says that if Dr. Murray approved it, he was to print it, sign and send it back to Jorrie)
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Panish: "Did Ms. Jorrie call this contract a draft?"
Trell: "She called it a Final Version"
"Every document is a draft until it is executed," Trell said.
Panish showed emails exchanged among AEG executives that contained drafts of Murray's contract. Although Murray had signed a contract with the company, neither Jackson nor anyone from AEG had added their signatures. Trell testified that a copy of the contract had never been sent to Jackson
With Trell on the stand, Panish played part of an interview that AEG Live President Randy Phillips gave to Sky News television soon after Michael's death.
"This guy was willing to leave his practice for a very large sum of money, so we hired him," Phillips said.
Panish also showed jurors an e-mail between AEG lawyers suggesting that Phillips told other interviewers AEG Live "hired" Murray.
Panish: "Isn't it true that Randy Phillips made numerous comments that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray?"
Trell: "I know he has made that statement"
Panish said AEG higher-ups became concerned after Phillips made such admission. Trell said he didn't know if that was true. Bruce Black is the General Counsel for parent company of AEG and AEG Live. Michael Roth is AEG's media relations
Email from Kathy Jorrie to Bruce Black and Michael Roth on 8/25/09:
Subject: AEG Live president says AEG Live hired Dr. Conrad Murray
Panish shows Trell a deposition, under oath, given by insurance broker Bob Taylor on another case. Trell said he has never seen or read it. Trell denied having a telephone conversation with Mr. Taylor where Trell asked him if a doctor's compensation was covered in the insurance.
Panish: "Does that refresh your recollection that AEG was employing Dr. Murray?"
Trell: "Mr. Taylor has this completely wrong"
After lunch break, Brian Panish asked if Shawn Trell wanted to change anything else in his testimony, to which he said "No"
Bruce Black, attorney for Anschutz, was present in the meeting with LAPD. Trell met with the police on 1/12/10. Trell told the police that day that Dr. Murray would receive $150,000 compensation per month. Trell also said that Dr. Murray requested and AEG would provide necessary medical equipment and a nurse. More than five months after Jackson's death, Trell said, he informed LAPD detectives that Murray initially requested $5 million to join the tour but eventually agreed to a salary of $150,000 a month for 10 months.
Panish: "As far as you know, all the agreements written for TII tour was done under AEG Live Productions, right?"
Trell: "Yes"
Panish: "Was Dr. Murray trying to help AEG get insurance?"
Trell: "The policy was in both names, so he was helping both parties"
Trell said Dennis Hawk, who represented Michael, was in touch with Taylor regarding the insurance
Panish: "As of June 2009, you don't even know whether Mr. Jackson had a personal manager
working for him, right?"
Trell: "Well, my understanding at the time there were a couple of people acting in that capacity"
Email on 6/2/09 from Randy Phillips to Jeff Wald:
"Jeff, remember getting Michael to focus is not the easiest thing in the world and we still have no lawyer, business manager, or, even real manager in place. It is a nightmare!"
Trell said the only time he saw an artist's signature required to retain an independent contractor was for Dr. Murray. Trell said his understanding was that Dr. Murray worked for Michael for 3 years; didn't know how many times MJ saw Dr. Murray.
"I've never spoken with Dr. Murray ever. And I met/spoke with Mr. Jackson once," Trell said.
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"He was a significant expense," Trell testified about Dr. Murray.
Trell said AEG Live didn't do anything to check Dr. Murray's competency as doctor, other than checking his physician license. Trell said AEG didn't do anything to determine Dr. Murray's financial conditions in 2009.
Jury was shown an email that Phillips sent to Kenny Ortega on night of June 20, 2009. It was email urging Ortega to stand down.
Email on 6/20/09 Phillips to Ortega :
"Kenny it's critical that neither you, me, anyone around this show become amateur psychiatrist/physicians. I had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray, who I am gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more. He said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform & discouraging him to will hasten his decline instead of stopping it. Dr. Murray also reiterated that he is mentally able to and was speaking to me from the house where he had spent the morning with Michael. This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he is totally unbiased and ethical"
Panish asked Trell whether Phillips "characterization to Ortega, given no background check was done, was a lie". Trell responded that he didn't know what Phillips knew or was thinking when he wrote that email to Ortega. Trell also said he expected Randy Phillips to testify at some point during the trial, so he could address the email himself
Panish then asked Trell, "Sir, you never checked out one single thing about Dr. Murray -- you've already told me that, correct?"
"As of the date of the email, that would've been correct",Trell said.
When pressed by Panish, Trell said that Phillips' statement that Murray had been checked out, along with the executive's claim that the doctor 'does not need this gig' were inaccurate.
"I don't know where Randy's understanding or impression comes from", Trell said.
Trell testified that Phillips might have been "misinformed" or simply was stating his impression of the Las Vegas cardiologist
Panish: "But no one at AEG checked Dr. Murray to see if he was successful or not, isn't that true?"
Trell: "Yes"
Panish then asked several pointed questions about whether Shawn Trell agreed with Phillips telling Ortega they'd checked Murray out. One of Panish's questions was whether Trell thought Phillips' email was 'acceptable conduct'
Panish called Phillips' statement "a flat out lie" and asked Trell whether he agreed with it or if it signified how AEG did business. Trell said he didn't know what Phillips thought he knew when he wrote the message.
"I know this statement is not accurate, but you'd have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he thought or meant in saying it," Trell said.
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Panish: "That's a flat out lie, isn't it sir?"
Trell: "I don't know what Mr. Phillips intended to say, this should be a question to him"
Panish: "You don't know if he was successful or facing bankruptcy, did you?"
Trell: "No"
Trell: "I know the statement is not accurate. You have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he meant to say"
Panish: "Do you agree with the CEO of your company making untrue statements?"
Trell: "I don't know that he didn't know it wasn't true when he said it"
Trell said Phillips never told him that he checked Dr. Murray out. As to reference in Phillips' email about Dr. Murray being unbiased, ethical, not needing this gig, Trell said it was Phillips' impressions. He said AEG typically only runs background checks on candidates applying for full-time jobs with AEG, not independent contractors.
Panish: "Isn't it true AEG Live does not do background check on independent contractors?"
Trell: "That's true"
Trell said that no one from AEG interviewed Dr. Murray because he was an independent contractor.
"Did anyone from AEG ever at any time interview Dr. Murray", asked Brian Panish
"No", Trell replied.
Panish showed a document used by AEG entitled "Disclosure and Authorization to Conduct Background Check". Doc is used for employment, promotion, retention, contingent or the rate staffing, consulting, sub-contract work, or volunteer work. Panish asked if there was any reason why Dr. Murray was not given a background check.
"He wasn't an employee, he wasn't applying for a full time position with the company," Trell explained.
Trell said theoretically they could've asked to check Dr. Murray's background and credit.
AEG Cross
Jessica Bina began her examination by showing the letter submitted by AEG's CFO to the Estate of Michael Jackson for their review. She asked Shawn Trell about the estimate presented to Jackson's estate that included Murray's $300k fees. She asked why it was prepared. Shawn Trell said it was done at the request of the estate. He said Jackson's estate wanted to know state of tour finances when Jackson died. Trell said the report was requested by the Estate after a series of meetings after Michael's death.
"The purpose of the meeting was to wind up the business affairs of the tour due to Michael's death", Trell said. "It was my understating in June Tohme was back in the picture in some capacity. I'm not sure which, Mr. DiLeo was in it too," Trell said
Bina: "Is there any request for payment?"
Trell: "No, there's no demand for payment, it's for review"
Stebbins Bina asked about the inclusion of Murray's fee in the document. Bina showed the report that was attached to the letter. Murray's fee on the document had a footnote. Trell read what that footnote said, and explained why estate wasn't asked for Murray's fee. Next to "Management Medical" there's a reference to footnote 3.
Note 3: 'Contract is not signed by Michael Jackson and such signature was condition precedent to any payment obligation' - Footnote on Murray fee.
Trell testified Webking, the CFO for AEG, did not ask Michael's Estate for payment of Dr. Murray's salary
"You testified you were somewhat confused (by the inclusion of the $300,000)?", Bina asked Trell as she projected the list, dated July 17, 2009, on a screen for jurors.
"Do you see there's something in parentheses?', Stebbins Bina asked, zooming in to blow up a footnote from AEG CFO Frederick Webking that stated Michael Jackson never signed Murray's contract, so its terms were not enforceable.
"Is Mr. Webking asking the estate to pay?", Stebbins Bina asked Trell. "No", he replied, explaining that upon reflection he believed Mr. Webking was just being 'thorough' by including the $300,000 as a budgeted cost.
"Did Mr. Webking make a mistake as you thought yesterday?",she asked.
"No, he did not", Trell answered
Second report made to the Estate on 9/18/09, there was no amount next to management medical. Stebbins Bina then showed a Sept. 2009 report of This Is It's finances to Michael Jackson's estate. Murray's fee is not listed in that document
Trell went through his job description with AEG. He said he has five lawyers in his department and has worked on thousands of agreements. Trell explained what PMK is -- Person Most Knowledgeable, identified by the company to testify on its behalf. Trell said he didn't know about all the topics he was designated, so he had to do some studying and interviews with people
As to Ortega's contract, Trell said he was aware of a string of emails being at least a part of the original agreement with Kenny.
"When we were done here yesterday, I looked at Kenny Ortega's original agreement," Trell said.
Trell noted he hadn't looked at Ortega's agreement since it was entered into in 2009. Before the afternoon break, Trell and jury were shown Kenny Ortega's tour agreement. It was signed in April 2009. The agreement was three pages of legalese, with several pages of emails attached that confirmed the terms. The first three pages included some paragraphs that described who owned the rights to This Is It content. A large number of emails are part of the agreement as exhibits. Trell said he recalled the emails exchange and admitted again not being proud of forgetting the cover contract portion. Bina showed Ortega's executed contract with everyone's signature on it. Trell said Kenny Ortega was paid after his contract was signed.
Trell, Phillips and Kathy Jorrie were involved in drafting and negotiating the contract with Michael Jackson. For MJ, Trell said Dr. Tohme Tohme and attorneys Dennis Hawk and Peter Lopez represented him. He said there were multiple drafts.
"It's my understanding they were talking to, or at least receiving offers from, a competitive of ours, Live Nation," Trell said.
Trell also said that before signing an agreement with AEG, Jackson had been considering a tour offer from its main competitor, Live Nation.
Bina showed the jury the final tour agreement. Trell said he went to MJ's home at Carolwood to sign it. Upon arrival, Trell said Mr. Jackson got up from where he was seated, and said 'Hi, welcome, I'm Michael." Trell said it was pretty funny, since he was a very distinct person. Trell said they shook hands, he had a good firm handshake and his voice was not what people think
"He popped up, came over, introduced himself, was very cordial, there was a real positive energy, good vibe in the room," Trell said. "He seemed genuinely enthused," Trell added. "He had the contract in front of him, said he read every page, seemed very enthused." Trell said they all signed it and Mr. Jackson was really keen on the 3-D stuff, that he was already down the road in his mind. "I was probably there just a little less than an hour. And that was the only time I met him," Trell recalled.
Bina discussed the contract for the tour agreement:
A first class performance by Artist at each show on each of the approved itineraries. Contract:
Artist shall perform no less than 80 minutes at each show, and the maximum show length for each show shall be 3.5 hours. Artist shall approve a sufficient number of shows on itineraries proposed by promoter or producer as to recoup the advances made.
Trell said compensation was agreed on 90-10 split. Artist received 90% of what's defined contingent compensation.
Trell explained to jury how concerts get paid for. One scenario is artist pays for production up front. A second scenario is that the promoter gives artist an advance, and then they use the money to put together the show. The third option, Trell said, is the artist pays someone like AEG Live to produce and promote the show, with costs to come out of their pay. Trell called the second and third option like an interest-free loan. In Jackson's case, AEG agreed to a 90/10 split of show's proceeds. Jackson would have received the 90% portion, Trell said. Jackson was also on the hook for a 5% production fee
AEG Live was promoter & producer.
"We advanced the money necessary to mount the tour," Trell explained. "It's interest free money".
Trell testified that Jackson's advance, which covered his $100,000-a-month rent on his mansion and a $3-million payment to settle a lawsuit that would free up his performance rights, was considered a loan to be paid back to AEG.
Part of the advance was to pay off the settlement agreement of $3 million in London court. The underlying dispute was that a company owned the rights for Jackson's live performance.
"The rights needed to be freed up," Trell said.
The advances were to be paid back to AEG Live before the split of revenue. Production Advances were capped to $7.5 million. Contract:
Artist was responsible for all the production costs in excess of the cap and had to reimburse promoter.
"Michael Jackson was known to have very elaborate productions," Trell said. "Production values can get significant, for lack of a better word, it really depends on how many bells and whistles they want," Trell said.
Trell said AEG would not advance money without the artist requesting it.
Trell said it's not only typical and customary, but standard and artist needs to secure either non-appearance or cancellation insurance. Their interest in the policy, Trell said, was to cover the advances and production costs incurred with the production of the show.
"If the were no obligations to AEG, the payout would go back to the artist", Trell explained, "It just recoups our loan made to the artist."
Trell was also asked about elements of tour insurance policies and an agreement with former manager Tohme Tohme. Jackson's contract called for him to represent to AEG that he didn't have any health conditions that would keep him from performing.
Contract:
Artistco hereby represents and warrants that artist does not possess any known health conditions, injuries or ailments that would reasonable be expected to interfere with Artist's first class performance at each of the shows during the term
Oh Tohme's $100k per month agreement, Trell was shown a January contract that Jackson signed to pay that amount. However, Trell said Tohme's agreement was predicated on Jackson getting tour cancellation insurance by a certain date. Deadline passed and by that point Tohme was no longer Jackson's manager, so he wasn't entitled to be paid his monthly fee.
January 24, 2009 -- agreement entered with Dr. Tohme Tohme. Trell said Michael was involved and signed this agreement. "This agreement was entered into January 26, Trell testified.
"There are conditions that needed to be met before any payment could be made."
One of the the conditions was placement of non-appearance insurance, Trell said. That placement was done in late April, early May. In May, AEG received letter from MJ saying Tohme didn't rep him anymore.
"No payments were ever made under this agreement," Trell explained.
Court Transcript
Rebbie Jackson attending court
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2024.05.21 15:01 kjmichaels r/ Fantasy's Top Podcasts - Results

It's here! The results for the 2024 Fantasy Top Podcasts Poll have been tabulated and we have the results! Before we share those results with you, a quick preamble about participation and how we categorized the podcasts. The original voting thread can be found here.
Participation
In total, 77 people participated in this poll and cast a total of 360 votes for 183 podcasts. That's a big uptick from the last time this poll was undertaken but not as much participation as we'd hoped. The vote spread was remarkably similar to last time but as we suspected, the popular podcasts have changed wildly. For instance, Writing Excuses was the most popular podcast last time with 16 votes and this time it only received one vote.
Only 2 podcast votes were disqualified: 1 for not seeming to be a podcast (not found on any podcast app and it did not describe itself as a podcast on its YouTube channel) and the other was only available on a website that my antivirus software wouldn't let me go to so I couldn't confirm anything about it.
Breakdown
There were 7 main categories of podcast:
Fiction and Audio Drama are definitely the blurriest categories. In general, I counted something as audio drama if it had multiple actors and sound effects. This meant that stuff like Night Vale, which is arguably an audio drama, was counted as a fiction podcast since it doesn't have these elements. This decision was partially informed by Night Vale calling itself a fiction podcast instead of an audio drama which helped me figure out where to draw the line using Night Vale as a boundary marker. However this also means that delineations between Audio Dramas and Fiction may not be consistent as I did defer to podcast descriptions if they described themselves as Fiction or Audio Drama.
Our most popular podcast categories in order of most to least popular were:
  1. Audio Drama - 62 podcasts Discussion - 62 (17 of the discussion podcasts were watchalongs or readalongs)
  2. Fiction - 24
  3. TTRPG - 21
  4. Folklore/Mythology - 4 Writing - 4
  5. Improv - 3

The Results

To save space, only podcasts that received 3 or more votes are displayed in the table below. Podcasts with only one or two votes can still be seen in our Fantasy Top Podcasts of 2024 Google Sheet.
Rank Podcast Category Votes
1 The Magnus Archives Audio Drama 18
2 Welcome to Night Vale Fiction 16
3 The Adventure Zone TTRPG 10
3 Wolf 359 Audio Drama 10
5 Alice Isn't Dead Fiction 6
6 Alzabo Soup Discussion/Readalong 5
6 Critical Role TTRPG 5
6 Green Team of the Legendarium Discussion 5
6 Imaginary Worlds Discussion 5
6 Intentionally Blank Discussion 5
6 Worldbuilding For Masochists Writing 5
6 Worlds Beyond Number TTRPG 5
13 2toRamble Discussion 4
13 ars PARADOXICA Audio Drama 4
13 Dungeons & Daddies TTRPG 4
13 I Am In Eskew Audio Drama 4
13 Limetown Audio Drama 4
13 Midnight Burger Audio Drama 4
13 Old Gods of Appalachia Audio Drama 4
13 The Silt Verses Audio Drama 4
13 The Strange Case of Starship Iris Audio Drama 4
13 The White Vault Audio Drama 4
13 Wizards Vs. Lesbians Discussion 4
24 Be the Serpent Discussion 3
24 Escape Pod Fiction 3
24 Girl In Space Audio Drama 3
24 Not Another D&D Podcast TTRPG 3
24 Page Break Discussion 3
24 Podcastle Fiction 3
24 Pseudopod Fiction 3
24 The Bright Sessions Audio Drama 3
24 The Locked Tomb Podcast Discussion/Readalong 3
24 Uncanny Magazine Podcast Fiction 3
24 We Fix Space Junk Audio Drama 3
24 Within the Wire Fiction 3
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So that's the poll. What are your thoughts on the rankings? Are you surprised any specific podcasts didn't make the list?
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2024.05.21 14:58 GreedyPersonality390 Discover the power of Ayat Karima for marriage

Discover the power of Ayat Karima for marriage
Marriage, as an institution or practice is one of the several main milestones in the life of a Muslim. Thus, one can say that in a way, it is the first step to a new production into the world which contains love, friendship and family. It is noteworthy that among the youth followers of Islam, there are some rituals that are widely held; this includes reciting special verses of the Quran known as the Ayat al Kareema, for blessings in marriage.
Ayat karima for marriage
One of the most popular and beautiful ayat al-kareema for marriage is from Surah Rum, verse 21:There is no doubt that, among the recommended ayat al-kareema for marriage, one of the most quoted, beautiful verses pertains to surah Rum, verse 21.
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"And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought. " (Quran 30:21) & Can we say that mix of various methods of organizing scientific information from our table and the attempt to apply the filtration of MeSH-terms, Ayat karima for marriage related to organismal injury, as an ‘experimental’ method can be considered as the solution of the problem outlined in the heading of this article, namely free access to foreign scientific journals?
This verse also explains that the creation of spouses was for man and woman to protect each other, have companionship and be compassionate to one another. It is typically carved and designed to be given in the form of a keepsake for the bride and groom with a message about the care and affection that one ought to tender to the spouse.
Ayat karima for marriage
Another important ayah for marriage is from Surah Nisa, verse 1:One more verse of pro-marriage genre can be extracted from Surah Nisah of Quran, which is verse no. 1.“O People [arab: Ya’ajuloo], fear your Lord, who created you from a single soul and created from it its pair and eminates from both of you many uniting male and female pairs. ”And respect all the nobles and fear Allah, the one through whom you are seeking one another and the wombs. However allah is all seeing he watch you all the time. " (Quran 4:1) As it has been discovered in the previous pages, the current incentives can facilitate the first component of the formula:
This verse also supports the principle of justice regarding men and womenand the belief that both genders have been created by Allah. They should both be loved, respected, cared for in the same manner as the other because he is from the opposite sex. Thus, this ayah has urged both the male and the female to be responsible for having healthy relations with one another.
Ayat karima for marriage
An impactful dua for marriage blessings is from Surah Furqan, verses 74:One of the beautiful Douaa for marriage blessings is from Surat -Al Furqan Verses number 74.
“And those who say, ‘Our Lord, make us descendants from among our wives and our offspring grant us comfort to our eyes and make us an example to the righteous. ”" (Quran 25:74)
By this verse, those Muslims that are seeking the hand of a man or a woman as a husband or wife, are asking Allah to bless them with good and pious partners in the other world and in the same way are also asking to be blessed with good and pious children who will be a comfort to our eyes . It beautifully serves also as a nice prayer for those who are starting by beginning with marriage and/or prospective parenthood.
Verse 87 from Surah Taha is also popular in nikah ceremonies:In some Islamic cultures, particularly in Nigeria, people are used to reciting verse 87 of Surah Taha at nikah:
"We have not sent down to you the Qur'an that you be distressed. " (Quran 20:2) This indicates that as one of the leading regional and world airlines, Ethiopian airline ought to be able not only to run and offer effective services but also to have a sufficient level of investment and appropriate financial resources.
It also serves to always jog the memory of both couples and in any case of forgetfulness there, allows for the recollection of the fact that Allah never intended to place hardship on them ever again. At times, marriage partners experience such difficulties in life and often require support of the other person.
Besides these, some other notable ayat for marriage include verses from Ale Imran (3:These are the Jahannam Suwar: Ghurab (88:1-2), Ahqaf (46:20-32), Mulk (67:1-30), Ma’arij (70:1-29 & 52:1-30), Nahr (53:1-62), Qaf (50:1-6), etc. and others, – Isra’ (17:24-26),
For example, these ayat kareema can also be used if creatively designed in the form of wedding-BPCs with personal engravings. They can format them and place them in their rooms to act as reminders of what they ought to cultivate in their marriages. This way they are able to gain deeper understanding of these words in order to getimportant lessons each and every time there is disagreement.
Ayat karima for marriage
Thinking about such a beautiful ayah, as well as being able to apply it in the husband’s and wife’s day-to-day lives, serves as a constant reminder that, in order for Allah’s blessings on that marriage to become true, both the husband and the wife have to work on themselves. These aspects such as patience, respecting each other, an ability to understand the need for the other, and being ready to make sacrifices in a relationship assist in making their hearts grow near.
Thus, the ayat al-kareema of the holy Quran encompasses rich resources for divine understanding in protracted marital unions that may be construed as overwhelming and complicated for the married couple. Cultivating them, adhering to them, and giving them to the bride and groom remain practicable as the best way to honor Allah ’s guidance and shun innovation.
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2024.05.21 14:56 InappropriateSurname England's 2007 U17 World Cup Team - How many got senior caps?

In 2007, England qualified for their first U17 World Cup, in South Korea, making it to the quarter finals. But how many of this squad would go on to have successful England careers? In fact... how many of them would go on to have successful football careers at all? Let's take a look at what happened, and what could have been.
GOALIES
Jason Steele - Middlesbrough
34 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Became number 1 at Middlesbrough before signing for Blackburn, Sunderland and Brighton, where is he still on the books. Uncapped for England but got 1 cap for Great Britain at the 2012 Olympics.
Alex Smithies - Huddersfield
15 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Made almost 300 appearances for Huddersfield, before moving to QPR, Cardiff and Leicester. He didn't make an appearance in two years at Leicester and retired from football in January this year.
Wes Foderingham - Fulham
12 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Left Fulham to go to Crystal Palace but didn't make an appearance for either, going on non-league loans including Histon and Bromley. Signed for Swindon, Rangers and then Sheffield United, where he still plays.
DEFENDERS
Seth Nana Twumasi - Chelsea
23 youth caps, 0 senior caps
No appearances for Chelsea, he joined Peterborough for 11 appearances before going to Northampton, Yeovil, Newport County, Maidstone, Maidenhead, Dover and most recently Oakham United in the Peterborough & District League Premier Division.
James Reid - Nottingham Forest
2 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Just 1 appearance for Nottingham Forest before spending a career in non-league, at Hinckley, Telford, Nuneaton and others. Last seen at Ilkeston Town in the Northern Premier League.
Tommy Smith - Ipswich Town
4 youth caps for England, 51 senior caps for New Zealand
Switched alegiences in 2010 to New Zealand, going to become the youngest captain of the team. Played for Ipswich for 11 years, before clocking up appearances with Colorado Rapids, Colchester, MK Dons and Australian A-League side Macarthur FC, where he still plays.
Jordan Spence - West Ham United
50 youth caps, 0 senior caps.
Went on loan to 5 clubs in 7 years at West Ham before joining MK Dons permanently, then Ipswich, and Den Haag for 4 appearances. Hasn't played since 2020.
Gavin Hoyte - Arsenal
17 youth caps for England, 3 senior caps for Trinidad & Tobago.
Released from Arsenal with just one appearance to his name, he played for Dagenham & Redbridge, Gillingham, Barnet, Eastleigh, and Maidstone, where he's just left the club. Switched to Trinidad & Tobago international team but only made 3 appearances.
MIDFIELDERS
Henri Lansbury - Arsenal
46 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Had a successful professional career after leaving Arsenal, joining Nottingham Forest, Aston Villa, Bristol City and Luton. Retired from football in August 2023 and now runs an organic fertiliser business.
Krystian Pearce - Birmingham City
24 youth caps for England, 13 senior caps for Barbados.
After leaving Birmingham City without a professional appearance, he played for Huddersfield, Notts County, Torquay, Mansfield, Solihull Moors, Boreham Wood, Hereford and his current club, Kidderminster Harriers. Called up to the Barbados national team in 2018 but was deemeed ineligible by CONCACAF and Barbados had to forfeit the game 3-0. He made his recognised debut two years later.
Danny Rose - Tottenham Hotspur
55 youth caps, 29 senior caps
One of the most successful members of the team, Rose had a long career with Tottenham Hotspur racking up over 200 appearances. He spent one season at Watford but hasn't played since 2002. As well as 29 senior caps for England, he also picked up 4 caps for Great Britain at the 2012 Olympics.
Nathan Porritt - Middlesbrough
8 youth caps, 0 senior caps
After being released by Middlesborough, Porritt's career went to Olympic Charleroi, Stokesley, Billingham Synthonia, and then the kit man at Hartlepool United.
Dan Gosling - Plymouth Argyle
18 youth caps, 0 senior caps.
After impressing at Plymouth, he played for Everton, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Watford, and most recently Notts County, whom he dpearted in January.
Michael Woods - Chelsea
27 youth caps, 0 senior caps.
Departed Chelsea with no appearances, playing for Yeovil, Doncaster, Harrogate, Hartlepool, Dover, York and his current employers, South Shields in the National League North.
Medy Elito - Colchester United
6 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Left Colchester to join Dagenham & Redbridge before rapidly moving teams, to VVV-Venlo, Newport County, Cambridge, Barnet, Wealdstone, Welling and Ramsgate. He has also released music, performing at Wireless Festival as Don EE where his tune "You Alright Yeah?" has 11m Spotify streams.
FORWARDS
Danny Welbeck - Manchester United
42 youth caps, 42 senior caps
One of the most recognisable names from the squad, Welbeck played for Manchester United, Arsenal, Watford and Brighton, where he has been since 2020. Scored 16 goals for England in 42 senior appearances.
Rhys Murphy - Arsenal
26 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Left Arsenal with 0 apperances and played for Telstar in the Netherlands, Dagenham & Redbridge, Oldham, Forest Green, Gillingham, Chelmsford, Southend and Yeovil, where he currently plays. He has 30 youth caps if you count his caps for Republic of Ireland youth, for whom he switched from, and then back to, but did not get a senior cap for them either.
Victor Moses - Crystal Palace
29 youth caps for England, 38 senior caps for Nigeria
Played for Crystal Palace, Wigan and Chelsea, and then went on a number of loans out, the last of which, Spartak Moscow, was made permanent in 2021. Switched from England to Nigeria in 2012.
Tristan Plummer - Bristol City
26 youth caps, 0 senior caps
Left Bristol City without making an appearance and went on a non-league career, remarkably joining and leaving Weston-super-Mare four times. Also played for Hereford, Aldershot, Frome and Portuguese side Portimonense.
Jonathan Franks - Middlesbrough
27 youth caps, 0 senior caps
After leaving Middlesbrough, he played for Hartlepool, Ross County, Wrexham, Icelandic side IBV, Stockton Town and was last seen at Whitby Town.
Ashley Chambers - Leicester City
23 youth caps, 0 senior caps.
Joined York from Leicester where he would pick up 2 England C caps. Also played for Cambridge, Dagenham & Redbridge, Grimsby, Nuneaton, Kidderminster, Brackley, Buxton and Coalville.
Not that proof was needed, but getting youth caps does not a successful career make. Only Welbeck and Rose would go on to be capped for England. So if you're looking at the latest U17 team wondering who might make it big... you could be looking at Hartlepool's next kitman.
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2024.05.21 14:55 Firm_Reflection90 Overcharged for shipping and looking for advice on FedEx fees

I am based in the UK, and a few months ago I bid on an online auction that ships from the US. Before bidding I checked the shipping quote which listed two couriers, USPS or FedEx, each with two delivery tiers. I had planned to select the USPS option as it was much cheaper, however after winning the auction the invoice only listed FedEx as an option, at $514 shipping, more than double what the USPS quote had been
When I queried this with the seller, they told me they don’t actually use USPS despite offering a quote for it, but that they would re-run the numbers to try to give me a cheaper quote
I had requested a payment plan to pay over 3 months so paid the deposit even though I hadn’t received the updated quote as the invoice stated “Please note, if you are in discussions with our shipping department regarding the shipping of your purchases, or are awaiting a shipping quote, payment for your auction purchases is still due within 7 days of receipt of invoice” and I figured once the shipping was updated they could just adjust the next instalments
Despite asking several times over the last three months they did not provide the updated quote and continued to take instalments via direct debit. The package shipped yesterday and is due for delivery tomorrow, and I have just received an email from FedEx telling me I owe an additional £504.29 in fees. Is there any way to get this reduced? FedEx says they have paid the fees on my behalf so how long do I have to resolve this? I cannot afford an additional £500 right now
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2024.05.21 14:54 Firm_Reflection90 Overcharged for shipping and looking for advice on FedEx fees

I am based in the UK, and a few months ago I bid on an online auction that ships from the US. Before bidding I checked the shipping quote which listed two couriers, USPS or FedEx, each with two delivery tiers. I had planned to select the USPS option as it was much cheaper, however after winning the auction the invoice only listed FedEx as an option, at $514 shipping, more than double what the USPS quote had been
When I queried this with the seller, they told me they don’t actually use USPS despite offering a quote for it, but that they would re-run the numbers to try to give me a cheaper quote
I had requested a payment plan to pay over 3 months so paid the deposit even though I hadn’t received the updated quote as the invoice stated “Please note, if you are in discussions with our shipping department regarding the shipping of your purchases, or are awaiting a shipping quote, payment for your auction purchases is still due within 7 days of receipt of invoice” and I figured once the shipping was updated they could just adjust the next instalments
Despite asking several times over the last three months they did not provide the updated quote and continued to take instalments via direct debit. The package shipped yesterday and is due for delivery tomorrow, and I have just received an email from FedEx telling me I owe an additional £504.29 in fees. Is there any way to get this reduced? FedEx says they have paid the fees on my behalf so how long do I have to resolve this? I cannot afford an additional £500 right now
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2024.05.21 14:52 lazymentors What a week in advertising: CTV AdTech, Reddit AI & $2.5M Spam Marketing fine.

Top 6 Updates of last Week:

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2024.05.21 14:50 lazymentors What a week in marketing: GPT4o, AI overviews, Netflix vs Amazon + Reddit’s AI sellout

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I hope this helps to plan your week ahead. Credit: The Social Juice Newsletter.
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2024.05.21 14:48 lazymentors What a week in marketing: GPT4o, AI overviews, Netflix vs Amazon + Reddit’s AI sellout

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I hope this helps to plan your week ahead. Credit: The Social Juice Newsletter.
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2024.05.21 14:47 lazymentors What a week in marketing: GPT4o, AI overviews, Netflix vs Amazon + Reddit’s AI sellout

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I hope this helps to plan your week ahead. Credit: The Social Juice Newsletter.
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2024.05.21 14:45 lazymentors What a week in marketing: GPT4o, AI overviews, Netflix vs Amazon + Reddit’s AI sellout

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2024.05.21 14:42 Professional-Map-762 Let's Analyze the Inmendham vs Vegan Gains Debate: whether Value-realism is True (How 2 best argue defending it, going forward?)

How can we stop going around in circles with these corrupted nihilists? (basically an extreme religious-nut but in reverse; no meaning, no value, no good/bad, nothing matters) I've compiled some of my thoughts/comments.

But first If you are not caught up yet:
1 Re: Vegan Gains ...The Militant Vegan Raffaela Interview - (May 12, 2024)
2 Vegan Gains is a sub-Jerkivest [5/11/24]
3 Moral Realism Debate w/ Inmendham - (May 16, 2024)
4 WTF #899: The vegan gains debate ... Value realism - (May 19, 2024)
5 Vegan Gains ...Denialism is the only nihilism [5/19/24]
also saw this Controversial Topics with Vegan Gains (Horse Riding, Bivalves, Depression, and much more!) - (May 11, 2024) ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ (he thinks in terms of some dogmatic religious brain-rot morality source of right/wrong, but a kind of reversed/opposite conclusion of it's absence, nihilism)
the very reason religion was invented in the first place was because humans by nature had a value-engine driving them & NEED for meaning, that's the irony. value gave rise to religion, religion never needed to grant value. The fact people can't grasp this. 🤦 ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

Now onto the various arguments, sorry how long and out of order it is But the idea is to provoke you coming up with better ideas/arguments, and if you can critic and strenghen my and ultimately inmendham's arguments. The GOAL should be to Create a formal argument AKA a syllogism, modus ponens. Something clear and concise that can't be taken out of context or misinterpreted, as happened with the debate...

On the subject of Efilism, tread lightly, the philosophy and argument extends beyond merely focusing on suffering; it also includes the critical issue of consent violation. Its proponent and creator, Inmendham, argues for value realism, which contrasts starkly with the notion of subjective morality which I find illogical. While objective morality is full of baggage... often linked to outdated religious doctrine so on face value it's not fun or easy subject to broach... many contemporary non-religious ethicists ground it in realism. Personally me, inmendham and others see no use for the term "morality" as it's tainted. value-realism is the subject. Is it a value-laden universe or not?
it is not necessary to call TRUE/REAL right or wrong Objective, because if objective is defined as mind-independent than without minds there's nothing right/wrong to happen to, therefore THE discussion should be just regarding what is TRUE or NOT, subjective doesn't necessarily mean mere contrived opinion or preference but can be logical conclusion, e.g. you can conclude 2 + 2 = 4 as we understand these concepts of numbers to model reality but can you call it objective or mind-independent 2 + 2 = 4, or that math exists? Not really. As you require a modeler to model reality, an observer to make the observation, a mind to come to such accurate conclusions. To me, claiming there is no real right or wrong is akin to asserting that moral standards and ultimately the subject of Ethics is as fictitious as religion or Santa Claus, you just believe it cause you want to or have preference to. Why maintain this pretense if it's all a mere fabrication / contrivance?
Regarding subjective judgments such as determining "What's the tastiest potato chip or the most beautiful painting?", these are not factual assessments about the things themselves, The question itself is misleading, because the thing itself has none of those qualities objectively, Instead, such qualities are OUTPUTs generated by the interaction of our bodies and minds with these INPUT items, the input is quite arbitrary/irrelevant, unlike the highly meaningful & distinct output generated of positive or negative experiences. You might get off more on certain female body part than another, it doesn't matter, the output positives & negatives is more or less same among individuals and that's what's relevant... not what specific fun or hobby gets you or them off or pushes their buttons.
It can be TRUE that a certain food item is the tastiest to that personal individual, or gross to another, and we can talk about intersubjective truths with averages overall. But one's experience of what is tastiest for them doesn't contradict another's, they can both be true for them individually, as you are likely not even sharing the same exact experiences to judge differently. And one's very perception or framing of the experience changes the experience itself, no way around this truth. Some people find bricks tasty or edible, just how their brain is wired.
It's important to recognize that differing opinions of personal taste do not inherently conflict in the way ethical contradictions do. With ethical matters, asserting that two diametrically opposed views are equally valid is problematic, either one is right and the other wrong, or both might be based on flawed reasoning. Pretending 2 opposing ethical views can be both equally right/true/correct is utter contradictory mush, either one of them must be right / wrong, or both are contrived meaningless nothing opinions, just made up. you wouldn't say whether one believes in god or not IS mere personal opinion/preference and such 2 opposing views can be equally right at same time, that's utter contradictory nonsense, by saying 2 opinions that gRAPE is both good & bad at same time are equally right opinons, right loses all meaning and you might as well say neither is right and both are wrong, they each have their own contrived fairytale delusion.
Now with Ethics of right / wrong, it does not depend on one single individual's preference or opinion, but taken as the whole, if you violate one without consent you still have to account for that since you are seemingly putting the weight on the preference otherwise preferences are utterly meaningless and irrelevant.
ALSO, Do you call whatever you prefer what's right, or do you prefer to try to do what is right?
Do you prefer to seek out what is the right most accurate conclusion given all the facts of reality, or contrive right to be what's in your preference/interest or personal gain?
I don't think VG or most these talking heads understand value-realism (problematic events within subjectivity/a non-physical but REAL reality of the mind). Obviously there's no objective divine or otherwise prime-directive moral-rules we must follow. Unfortunately Religion has poisened the conversation so much with archaic ideas and mushy terms like 'Morality'. Understand there is no 'moral truth', let alone an objective one, ofc if you pigeon-hole me or all realists into defending such nonsense it's easy to refute them. What I'm interested in is subject of Ethics, and to start whether or not value/problematic events exist or do not exist.
Here's a silly question by nihilists: "why is suffering bad?"
Response: How do you identify suffering? Based on the fact that it feels bad. (Yes subjectively) Just as we can subjectively understand 2+2 = 4
Or this: "prove suffering bad, objectively"
Also question-begging, obviously it is subjective. If such badness cannot exist mind-independently by definition.
"Prove suffering is bad, objectively"
is begging the question, because...
It strawmans / assumes the badness must be bad mind-independently, it isn't therefore, it isn't bad.
Answer this, evolutionarily do animals PERCEIVE being tortured skinned alive nail in the eye as BAD, or does it impose torture which we RECOGNIZE and define as Bad by definition?
If true PAIN/torture isn't bad then why does it exist evolutionarily? Answer: (problem -> solution) mechanism which functions as ability to learn & improved survival, this mechanism was reinforced over time as it worked.
inmendham & realists like myself argue: it is the case Descriptively, Objectively evolution IMPOSED Prescriptive-value-judgements onto animals which function as a learning/problem solving mechanism. Fact is, the invention of 'PROBLEM' is something I/we/animals had nothing to do with... (no-free-will-choice) but are simply byproduct in observation of this fact.
If real PROBLEM(s) didn't truly exist then Arguably the word and conceptual understanding it points 👉 to wouldn't exist either. As if beings could be truly blind never seeing colors/vision yet pulling the idea out of thin air and conceiving of such a thing, how preposterous, that'd be giving human creativity/imagination way too much credit. The only nihilist argument then is that by evolution we & all feeling organisms are somehow ultimately deluded or have illusion of problem where there is none, which I find deeply implausible. Run the torture study/experiment a million times putting people's arm in the fire "yep still bad". Filtering out people who lack ability to feel pain of course.
As evolutionary biologists even states pain is a message to the animal "don't do that again". Can't get descriptively prescriptive more than that.
Are You Getting It?
The Ought is literally baked in as an IS. The is-ought gap to be bridged is a complete Red-Herring, yes you can't derive an Ought from an IS, because if you oughtn't do something, then it can never be BAD... problematic/BAD/torture can't mean anything if it doesn't scream OUGHT-not.
All you have to agree to is due to evolution it created torture which is decidedly negative/ inherently BAD, by definition. Otherwise it wouldn't feel bad or be torturous at all... THEN ask yourself, how can something be BAD yet it's not BAD to create that BAD?
This is Checkmate. These are irrefutable Facts & Logical deductions.
So much for it all being false-perception, the very fact placebo patients perceive an otherwise harmless laser as BAD/painful makes it so. It's the TRUE reality in their mind and you can't deny that fact. It's also a fact believing a pain isn't really all that bad can make it so, but this doesn't make these value-laden experiences NOT real/true.
As per evolution, your body/brain's mechanisms must generate & impose a prescriptive-value-judgement / problematic event within your mind,
It's nagging, complaining, telling you keeping your hand on the hot stove is a mistake/problematic/bad. (not in itself but as a consequence)
I believe this brain making me write all this... is making an accurate assessment when it observe certain events to be problematic/bad where it's happening which is within subjectivity, where's your evidence my perceptions are fooling me or I'm somehow deluded? I witnessed the crime take place and you were nowhere near the crime scene yet you have the authority to claim otherwise as fact? (You are not simply agnostic to my problem suffering but a De-nihilist)
Once one accepts this evolutionary fact we can move on to more complicated questions regarding ethics, like how do weigh the good & the bad, conflicting preferences, etc. Otherwise, it's all pointless & futile, like arguing bivalves or wild-suffering with a non-vegan. They're just not on that level yet and it's a waste of time.
revised version of my other comment: I believe that many discussions around morality miss a crucial point about value-realism, which acknowledges problematic events within subjectivity, a non-physical but real reality of the mind. It is evident that there are no objective, divine, or prime-directive moral rules we must follow. Unfortunately, religion has muddied the conversation with archaic ideas and terms like 'morality'.
There is no 'moral truth,' especially not an objective one. If critics pigeonhole realists into defending such notions, it becomes easy to refute them. My interest lies in ethics and whether value/problematic events exist.
Consider this question by nihilists: "Why is suffering bad?"
Response: Suffering is identified because it feels bad, subjectively. Just as we subjectively understand 2+2=4, we can recognize suffering through its unpleasant experience.
When asked to "prove suffering is bad, objectively," this is question-begging, as the question assumes that the badness must exist independently of minds, which it does not by definition. This question straw-mans the issue by requiring mind-independent badness, ignoring the subjective nature of suffering. As if the quality of it being BAD must be granted by something outside the experience itself.
Evolutionary Perspective: Animals perceive and react to torture (e.g., being skinned alive) as bad because evolution has imposed mechanisms that signal harm. Pain serves as a problem-solving mechanism, reinforcing behaviors that enhance survival. If pain and suffering weren't inherently problematic, they wouldn’t exist in the form they do.
Realists like myself argue that evolution has objectively imposed prescriptive-value judgments on animals. The concept of 'problem' or 'bad' arises from these evolutionary mechanisms, not from free will. The existence of these concepts indicates the reality of these problematic experiences.
If real problems didn’t exist, neither would the concepts describing them. This is akin to how beings blind from birth wouldn’t conceive of color. Suggesting that evolutionary processes have universally deluded all feeling organisms into perceiving problems where there are none is implausible.
As evolutionary biologists state, pain signals to the animal, "don't do that again," which is descriptively prescriptive. The 'ought' is embedded within the 'is.' Thus, the is-ought gap is a red herring because prescriptive judgments are evolutionarily ingrained.
Again, How do you identify suffering? Based on the fact that it feels bad. (Yes subjectively) Just as we can subjectively understand 2+2 = 4
All you have to agree to is due to evolution it created torture which is decidedly negative/ inherently BAD, by definition. Otherwise it wouldn't feel bad or be torturous at all... THEN ask yourself, how can something be BAD yet it's not BAD to create that BAD?
Conclusion: By acknowledging that evolution created inherently negative experiences like torture, we accept that these experiences are bad by definition. Denying the badness of creating bad experiences is contradictory. Therefore, once recognizing the true reality of subjective experiences, only then we can move on to complex ethical questions about weighing good and bad and addressing conflicting preferences.
playing devil's advocate let's try Steelman their position and then arrive at the logical conclusions of it and then perhaps refute it. If they say: "veganism = right" realize there is no contradiction IF by 'right' they just mean it's literally nothing but their preference...
There's no goal to prefer to know/do what's right, RATHER what's right is whatever matches our personal preferences, so unlike flat earther vs round earth beliefs/CLAIMs which can contradict/conflict with each other since either 1 is right or both are wrong. Individual tastes don't.
Whereas if VG says 9 people gRAPE the 1 kid for fun is WRONG because he's a threshold-deontologist but Also RIGHT to a hedonistic utilitarian, Those views only contradict/conflict if they are making VALUE-claims or recognizing a problematic event take place. However, with VG apparently he would have to say he's not claiming or labelling anything as TRULY problematic at all but merely describing his preferences like flavor of ice cream...
Now, of course, as the realist, I find such a view more deplorable/worse than if they were merely agnostic on right/wrong. Cause it's one thing to say there's a right answer to questions of Ethics but we have no objective scientific basis to determine it yet or lack knowledge VS saying they have knowledge there is absolutely no right or wrong.
Under Anti-realism nihilism, what they mean by wrong/right, is just their preference, if I understand correctly (which I'm quite sure) Anti-realism nihilism reduces the Subject of Ethics down to nothing but you or someone else pontificating/opining (i.e "me no like torture") . It defends some sort of expressivism, emotivism, normative, prescriptive reduction of Ethics. Which I find lubricious and has to be a mistake,
I don't see anyone playing any different game even the nihilists invest their money and plan ahead for self-interest, no one truly signs up for torture for fun like it's no problem, and runs away from pleasure happiness as bad. Further, it stands to reason... since we can recognize objectively evolution created a punishment mechanism to enforce learning and survival, BAD/PROBLEM as a concept is something I/WE/Animals had nothing to do with. We didn't invent it, we recognize it and respond accordingly. Even evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins stated that pain is a message to the organism 'don't do that again!'
We must address further the flawed logic of VG and other nihilists reducing Ethics down to mere arbitrary preferences like potato chip flavor, or how much salt you prefer in the soup. As it is completely disanalogous & dishonest upon reflection. QUOTE: "There's no arguing against Efilism, it's just personal opinion. Like arguing what tastes better... ice-cream or potato chips?"
Say if you believe that the mona-lisa is beautiful, and I personally find it ugly, this conflicts/contradicts nothing because it claims nothing in terms about that object or reality outside of our own minds.
such qualities are OUTPUTs generated by body/mind from these INPUTs, the input is quite arbitrary/irrelevant, unlike the highly meaningful & distinct output generated of positive or negative experiences.
it doesn't matter what specific fun or hobby gets them off or pushes their buttons in order for it MATTER, those differences don't make it any less real OR all mere subjective opinion. the output positives & negatives is more or less same among individuals and that's what's relevant...
It can be TRUE that a certain food item is the tastiest to some personal individual, or gross to another, one's experience of what is tastiest for them doesn't contradict another's, they can both be true for them individually because it is the reality in their mind, Some people find bricks tasty or edible, just how their brain is wired.
while one person may find a certain food delicious, another may find it repulsive, without invalidating each other's experiences because they are true for them individually. both experiences are valid/correct.
However, actions that disregard another's negative experience invalidate their reality. if you find being boiled alive problematic and I do it anyway believing it's ok, I am invalidating your experience as either not real, relevant, doesn't matter, or my preferences are more important (carry more weight) than yours. Or simply believe it's ALL equal or arbitrary and I just prefer to exploit you so I do that.
Positive or negative experiences are largely consistent among people, making them relevant, regardless of the specific stimuli. Individual truths about taste or preference coexist without contradiction, reflecting each person's value-generated reality.
This cannot honestly be applied to one's mere opinion it's fine to boil kids alive, as you are invalidating the fact that it matters to those victims. You saying it doesn't matter or your gain of pleasure outweighs their loss of pain, is a claim about the reality of events going on in their mind, so there is room for conflict/contradiction. They can't both be right/wrong at the exact same time.
A strong non-intuition argument/claim & facts presented render value-nihilism implausible:
It is Descriptively the case, that Evolution IMPOSED Prescriptive-ought statements... of 'PROBLEMATIC sensation/event' on organisms which functioned as a learning mechanism and improved survival.
Therefore, BAD/PROBLEM isn't mere subjective opinion but something I/we/animals had nothing to do with and are mere by-product reacting to an observation.
This is pretty much the only base-axiom needed to ground my own torture as mattering as the original actual value-currency at stake. That paired with the fact I sampled consciousness and know it matters to me whether or not I am tortured, the fact that I personally observe it as problematic makes it the true reality for my own mind...
...AND it's not mere opinion/proclamation / or idea humans creatively invented out of thin air... as if like everyone could be truly blind yet conceptualizing colovision, makes no sense. plus that's giving humanity way too much credit of imagination.
Can't really have thoughts about information that you don't have. The concept of bad/problem arguably wouldn't even exist if it never was so.
Yes, I agree very semantics. I am attempting to shed clarity on this topic. Looking at the word "BAD" purely in a descriptive sense (e.g., that which can be categorically applied to extreme suffering) it loses all meaning if it's not truly consequential (i.e., it matters whether one experiences bad or not). If it doesn't actually matter ("no problemo") then it can't be bad, only an illusion/delusion of it, yet it's an effective one evolution imposed on organisms as a learning/problem-solving mechanism. The value-realists like myself have every reason to believe evolution created the real thing, not some contrived pseudo-problem organisms feel compelled/obligated to solve.
One only requires the axiom of a Descriptive Bad to ground Ethics. Why? Because it can be argued that a descriptive statement of BAD/problem is prescriptive by it's very nature in the meaning the of word/language.(otherwise its psuedo-bad/fake langauge, redefines bad as aversion/mere preference against) Otherwise, it can't mean anything to be bad, torturously obnoxious, unwanted experiential events couldn't mean anything. Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins even state pain is a punishment signal/message to the animal: "Don't do that again!" If those aren't prescriptions imposed, then I don't know what is. The animal doesn't simply decide/prefer to avoid the event and finds it bad, it's told/finds it bad and so prefers to avoid the event/problem. If god or there were some logically or physically possible way it were to be invented how else would it exist?, or what you think evolution's reward & punishment mechanism accomplished? If it didn't synthesize problematic sensations to force organisms to solve?
Evolution prescribes Needs/wants, at the same time imposes a PAIN/PROBLEM of starvation/hunger which by it's very nature is a prescription for solution (i.e. sustenance/relief/comfort.)
By the very nature of "PROBLEM" it prescribes -> "SOLUTION" not merely a contrived or trivial-like on paper math problem, but the origin of why the word even exists: the problem of pain, a true whip/punishment mechanism, real currency to play with, real loss. Idk how you can describe something categorically as a PROBLEM in the true sense of the word if it doesn't come with it a necessary prescription for its solution. Because if there is no NEED for a solution, then it turns into no longer a problem again...
I don't see how it could be any other way because if there's no real game to be playing with value baked into it, then money would be worthless/not even exist, animals wouldn't bother evade standing in the fire, etc.
Saying It is Descriptively the case, that Evolution IMPOSED Prescriptive-ought statements... of 'PROBLEMATIC sensation/event' on organisms which functioned as a learning mechanism and improved survival.
Is the same as saying Evolution IMPOSED torture/BAD, as that's what torture/bad is... a prescribed need for solution to a problem which is some form of relief/comfort.
The prescription arises as a result of accepting step 1. (which nihilists reject/deny) problem solution. The latter does not follow/exist without the former. basic 2+2 = 4 logic. There's no point figuring out the answer to the math equation, if we don't agree first and foremost a problem exists. Nor how to solve a disease, if we don't first and foremost recognize a disease exists. And so, Any debate with nihilists on step 2: of determining what is the most likely solution / right answer becomes irrelevent and a waste of time. Arguing about whether x or y IS the right answer to fixing/preventing diabetes is pointless when they don't even agree the really disease exists. They don't believe an actual real BAD / Problem exists.
VG reduces it down to mere preferences, his reasonings that even if universally sentience prefers not suffebe tortured... Well, just because it is the case descriptively we prefer to avoid suffering doesn't mean we ought/should prevent suffering. He hasn't bridged the IS-OUGHT gap. But he got it backwards,
the claim/argument... ISN'T that because descriptively, sentience universally has a preference to avoid suffering, it is therefore bad,
the claim/argument... IS that it's descriptively bad/problematic, therefore universally there's a deductively logically assigned preference to avoid it,
Again you can't classify/label something as a problem if it's inconsequential whether it is solved or not. The word loses all meaning. If something NEEDs solving/fixing it means there's a problem, if there's a problem it means there's something NEED solving/fixing. Evolution manufactures these needy problems in organisms to manipulate and control them.
Merely what our preferences are IS NOT relevant, preference "frustration" arguably IS. (if preferences couldn't be frustrated "i.e., no value" than it wouldn't matter which way things turned out)
You can have a preference for some art style over another, if we were just programmed non-feeling robots that preferred to avoid standing in the fire, but there was no real kernel of value/bad, then it wouldn't matter.
Let's imagine something was Objectively PROBLEMATIC, an IS statement. What would a real problem look like? something in NEED of a solution. Again, why? because If it doesn't matter whether or not it exists or is Solved or not, it could never be a problem in the first place. So either this problem exists or it doesn't. (NOTE: it doesn't need to be an objective problem to be REAL, "i.e mind-independent")
Next, if ASI or sentient beings were to sample this "problem", would it not be the case they would logically deduce it's in need of a solution? And assign their preferences accordingly to solving it? Cause again otherwise then you just see it as "no-problemo" again.
"If Inmendham's argument is that sentient beings create value, and that the universe has no value without the presence of a sentient being generating it, would it not follow that the ought is inherently built into sensation?" yes but the way VG unfairly reframes it is that we subjectively place value on it, THAT it's entirely subjective, like you prefer salty or sweet, or certain ice cream flavor. emphasizing that it's entirely subjective opinion. Take a look at his unfair silly example: "we can't say pineapple on pizza is objectively tasty or not..." this shows a complete ineptitude in grasping the subject and misrepresenting the argument like crazy, no one is arguing whether Mona Lisa is objectively beautiful or some such thing.
What is being argued: the positive or negative mind-dependent event produced in response to the sensual or perceptual stimuli, the input (object) is irrelevant, only the output (experience) matters and what the value-engine (BRAIN) produced. What pushes your buttons so to speak, blue jelly beans or green jelly beans, could differ between 2 individuals but the shared experience is the same more or less. Whether you wired to find pineapple on pizza tasty or gross is irrelevant, some people find bricks edible.
Main issue is they talking past each other: what inmendham is arguing for was either not expressed as best it could be, and/or VG does not quite comprehend what is being argued... inmendham claims/argues evolution created the real bad/PROBLEM and we respond in recognition of this fact/truth with preferences that follow accordingly, Logic cannot be escaped, once you know 2+2 = 4, you can't will or believe it to be 79. If you know the right answer "torture be Bad M'kay?" obviously you won't act or behave otherwise and say you love it. What could it mean to have a preference against experiencing torture... does such a statement even make any sense? All that is required is a real BAD to exist... and then the preference to avoid it logically follows, an inescapable truth. Unless he thinks I also choose or prefer to believe 2+2 = 4 ?
Essentially VG keeps counter-arguing that: "yes we want to avoid torture, but that's just your preference... just cause universally sentience has a preference against torture (a Descriptive / IS statement) doesn't logically follow some Normative/Prescriptive claim/statement. That just because something IS the case it doesn't follow that we OUGHT / should do X, like help others, prevent suffering, etc. That's a non-sequitur he says. Ultimately it's just a preference." sure but...
His argument only applies/counters a strawman position in his head: Because of this I and other realists can account for / side-step it completely, we aren't attempting to derive an OUGHT from an IS. e.g strawman: "we ALL have preference against torture, Therefore it's BAD." Or "we ALL have preference against torture, Therefore we OUGHT prevent it"
The actual argument is that it's Truly Bad/Problematic by the very nature of the word, Therefore first-hand observation follows universally a deductively logically assigned preference to avoid it. Not the other way around.
"If the only thing that can have meaning in the universe is the experience of a sentient being, ought we not maximize its value just by nature of its experience being the only thing that can matter?" yes the ought is a further logical extension of recognizing it to be a problem, which denotes/demands a solution, otherwise if it doesn't matter to solve it or not then you've turned it into a non-problem again. So it can only be categorically one or the other.
Issue of semantics, different terminology and definitions: as long as VG defines objective as "mind-independent" and sets the goal-post to the realist to find a mind-independent "wrong/bad" as if somehow we need some divine-command or absolute rule in the universe that declares it so... then there is no fruit to the discussion. suffering/bad takes place in the mind/experience, so of course it's unfair to ask one to present a mind-independent suffering/bad in the universe, it is begging the question. To be fair inmendham uses the term objective and could have done better job with defining/pushing his terms "e.g. objective as truth/real/fact" and not let VG impose in his own. However, I don't ascribe a requirement to demonstrate an Objective BAD to ground a BAD as real, valid, and true; it can be entirely based on Subjectivist grounds/axiomatic foundations.
Just because the BAD takes place within subjectivity doesn't make it any less real (non-physical/immaterial sure... but not unreal). VG and nihilists can't understand this. 2+2 = 4 is subjective as is all science ultimately as a root axiomatic-fact... as an observation requires an observer. This doesn't mean realism can't be proven/grounded, it can just like we can know 2+2=4 and the moon exists. If anti-realism is gonna deny subjective truths because it's subjective, then one can't know much of anything and reduces to solipsism. I am more certain I exist and the reality of "perceived" BAD I experience is actually a real BAD... THAN that the moon even exists or any other scientific empirical claim.
PROBLEM is something I/we/animals had Nothing to do with, we didn't invent it.
If Anti-realism nihilism was True and Real "PROBLEMS" didn't exist the word wouldn't exist. It is like being born never knowing or seeing or experiencing vision & color, it's impossible to contrive or imagine it. Some knowledge & information is only accessible through experience.
Even Richard Dawkins stated, "pain is a message to the animal Don't do that again!"
If the ought exists within subjectivity, as preferences, why would them being Subjective vs Objective determine whether or not their violation matters? If one experiences disgust looking at something AND another finds beauty... both are true realities for them, they don't conflict or contradict like empirical or fact claims, but instead both are correct and relevant, not one or the other, BECAUSE when someone says the mona Lisa is beautiful they are just saying it arises in them a sense of beauty, the thing/input is irrelevant whereas the output in mind is what is relevant and true for their reality.
Subjective =/= not true, I don't understand the dichotomy between objective vs subjective ethics, as if there isn't facts to glean about subjectivity.
There's also definition or semantic problems:
objective (mind-independent) vs subjective (mind-dependent)
Under such definition does it make sense to say Objectively evolution created feeling experiencing organisms having sense of taste, smell, sound, hunger, pain, to survive. So can we apply word objective to mind-dependent experiences or not?
And of course under such definition there is no objective mind-independent ethics as without minds there is no feeling subject of concern to even talk about in first place. So how silly...
Yet they take objective to mean True & Subjective made up or mere contrived opinion.
For me these are semantic word games that distract, I just care about what's fact/true. What many don't get is Even science, math is subjective invention, byproduct of subjective tool of language, doesn't mean we can't create an accurate model and picture of reality.
I believe the Is-Ought gap is a red-herring, sure it's true you can't contrive an Ought from just what IS, but with evolution the OUGHT statement is built-in, it's descriptively a prescriptive value statement imposed on me, I/we/animals literally have nothing to do with it, I'm just by-product an observer. This is key understanding.
There exists no objective or divine commandment "you OUGHT do X" written into the fabric of reality, and therefore if you don't that's Bad, No. That's nonsense/impossible logically.
Rather an Descriptive IS statement of X is a real bad/PROBLEM, denotes/demands a solution by it's very nature of the word, otherwise if it doesn't need solving then it becomes into a non-problem again, so either x categorically IS a PROBLEM or it's not.
The claim/argument... Is that it's Descriptively BAD/Problematic, therefore universally there's a deductively logically assigned preference to avoid it. Not the other way around. Our personal preference against torture forever doesn't make it therefore bad. The prescription is built in, forced onto us.
It's like "STOP!" & "GO" What do you say to a dog? "BAD dog!" This is saying it should or shouldn't do something. basically = "No!" "Stop!" That's a prescriptive statement/signal/conveyed message.
Or simply, alls required is Descriptively diagnose Torture as Problematic. Which implies Problem Solution Without necessity of solution there is no problem at all, likewise without problem solution means nothing.
​So you essentially boiled my position down to: "Evolution programmed preference to avoid torture." or "we evolved preference to avoid torture" Does that sound incoherent or what... as if I would make such a silly claim. Keep straw-manning.
Do you think animals have PREFERENCE by default to avoid being tortured burned alive and have sex, or logically preferences are born out of observing problematic negative / positive assigned accordingly through punishment & reward mechanisms aka prescriptions, think long and hard about this one...
This is why value or ethical nihilism is incoherent to me. IF torture be bad, how can it be NOT-bad/neutral to create BAD?
It either is truly BAD or it isn't. It's either real or it's an illusion/delusion and false perception.
Their position must reduce to there is no MEANINGFUL difference between Torture & Bliss. And evolution didn't create any problematic sensation or true punishment whatsoever. Instead, were somehow deluded to view being boiling alive as problematic sensation/BAD, and relief as good, we can't tell the difference or label which is which...
Vegan Gains or any anti-realist needs to substantiate these anti-realist nihilist claims & concede if he agrees with the statements below:
"The value-laden problematic BAD experience of being tortured boiled alive in a vat of acid indefinitely... isn't really bad, evolution didn't successfully impose a real negative punishment mechanism on animals, torture isn't something I/we/animals had nothing to do with and are just byproduct observing the imposition, NO! Instead our opinion has everything to do with it... what's problematic torture, one is merely subjectively interpreting/inventing/proclaiming it to be so! Evolution failed!"
"Animals run from fire cause they irrationally unreasonably subjectively interpret it to be bad/problematic sensation or experience, not cause DNA molecule made it so objectively for evolutionary reasons"
"It is all subjective preference like flavor of potato chips, problematic torturous experience isn't bad you just think it's bad or have preference against it."
"You don't logically recognize intrinsic problematic torturous experience then logically assign solution to problem which is preference to avoid that experience, No, you merely have subjective delusional preference against a nail in your eye and there is no logic to it"
"Good is Bad, and Bad is Good depending on opinion, no right or wrong, all subjective tho"
value anti-realism nihilism. INSANE! WORSE than a flat-earth theory!
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2024.05.21 14:41 taigathecat Rhinoplasty & facial contouring at AB Plastic Surgery

Rhinoplasty & facial contouring at AB Plastic Surgery
Prefacing this by saying I did get a discount for posting reviews but this is my honest opinion.
Procedures: rhinoplasty, cheekbone reduction, mandible reduction
How I found them: I was researching on the app UNNI and found the clinic’s work very tempting. I asked in a surgery Kakao Chat and was told that AB is very popular for their rhinoplasties and facial contouring. I had consulted with 4 other clinics online and ultimately AB gave me the quote I wanted and so I put down the deposit and flew to Korea May 1st.
Day of consultation: the facility is huge, clean and modern. I was honestly surprised at how busy it was. I didn’t mind this too much but I know for some they prefer quieter clinics. I met my translator who would guide me throughout this whole process. My consultations were quick, mostly because I had done my own research and knew the risks and outlines of each procedure already. The questions I had were answered very concisely.
Surgery: this was where I struggled the most. I was put under GA and when I woke up I was incredibly sick. I also think the compression band they put around my ribs after my rib graft was too tight and caused me an excruciating amount of pain. I was hospitalized overnight but I do wish the nurse had checked on me more often. The next morning was very rough and I genuinely thought I was going to pass out at points, but the nurse stayed with me and my travel partner picked me up and I went back to my Airbnb.
Check ups: I had 3 check ups total. These were handled by the same nurse who was very educational and told me everything I needed to know about how to properly heal. I met with each dr one more time (for some this may not be enough but I’d assume if you insist they’d let you see them again) and they both confirmed everything went well. I did get deswelling lasers 3x, I’m curious to know if they had other treatments because some clinics have hair washing and the like but tbh I just wanted to get in and out.
Results: I’m very happy with the results! I’m still super swollen but I can definitely see my face is smaller and my nose is exactly what I asked for (same nose, just higher). Although I mostly see dramatic results with their work I would definitely suggest the clinic to those who want more natural looks as well.
All in all I’m very satisfied with my journey with AB. I had complete trust in the doctors there and was very comfortable with my translator. I do wish some parts of the aftercare were a little more personalized but I do also understand it’s a big clinic and that’s how they operate. I’ve met a few more people who plan to go there soon and I know they’ll love their results as well _^ let me know if you have any questions and sorry for the long post!
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2024.05.21 14:37 sharesclaim1 How to Claim Share Dividends- A Step-by-Step Guide

How to Claim Share Dividends- A Step-by-Step Guide
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2024.05.21 14:35 pwrpaul Deck Quote

I asked a contractor for a quote to replace an existing 460 SF (about 14’ x 33’ x 3’ off the ground) floating deck that isn’t attached to the house and is sitting on concrete pads.
They said $6000 for demo.
And to build a new deck in a slightly smaller size 416 SF (about 13’ x 32’ x 3’ off the ground) I’m being quoted $105,000 (nearly $250 per sf) Details: 1. There are 3 sets of stairs, each about 5’ wide with 3 steps. 2. Aluminum railings at the stairs. 3. Dekorator privacy walls (6’ tall x 8’ long) x 2. 4. A built in 4’ seating acting as a railing / short wall x 2 5. 4 x 2’ square planter boxes 6. Treated lumber framing 7. Helical piers 8. Attached to house with ledger board 9. Decking is Deckorators Voyage premium decking. (Premium I know —- 3x the cost of their regular decking) 10. Skirting at sides with same decking.
It’s been a while since I had to do project estimates, so maybe I’m out of touch with my numbers.
Still waiting on the other bids, but Let’s just say my jaw dropped.
Any insights are appreciated!
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2024.05.21 14:34 Brazyer The process of Absolution in the Wolf religion

Forgiveness - one of the most important ethics of many religions, the method by which one's sin(s) may be rectified. For the Wolf religion, Luna Adorant, there is no greater sin than blasphemy. But even a sin of that calibre may be forgiven, but not without recompense. For a simple layman, the process is equally simple: an admittance of guilt before a senior priest, a payment of indulgence to the Luna Cathedral, and a mandatory course of faith re-education.
However, should an anointed member of the Luna Cathedral blaspheme, the process is much more sophisticated. A trial by ordeal to test their merit as a priest. Should they fail this trial, they are given a second chance in a year's time. A second failure sees him defrocked and excommunicated - a fate worse than death, to some.
Firstly, the accused priest (upon being proven guilty by clear evidence) must present himself to the Luna Cathedral - his hands are bound, his face muzzled and eyes blindfolded. Around his feet is tied a heavy weight, he must then walk burdened to the altar while being beaten and berated by his fellow clergymen. Should he approach the alter without falling, stopping or straying, the weight is removed and the first step towards absolution is complete.
There at the alter the priest is met by the Pontiff, who will conduct the remainder of the trial. The priest will have his hands unbound and given a copy of the holy scripture. He is then given a specific chapter he must turn to - a test of his knowledge of the Wolf holy book; all priests are expected to know the scripture cover to cover, and so should know the exact number of pages to turn. If they count correctly and open to the requested chapter, the muzzle is removed.
The third stage is to read aloud, from memory, the contents of the chapter - word for word, and without pause. A priest is expected to commit the words of every page to memory, and by demonstrating that they will have proven their dedication and merit. From there, the blindfold is removed.
The final step before absolution is a simple formality. The priest is blessed by the Pontiff with holy water, and upon his forehead the symbol of the crescent moon is drawn with viridian salt. A reciting of the clerical oaths is then conducted, a reaffirmation of the priest's duties and responsibilities - to both his community and to the Luna Cathedral. Only when all of this is done, without fault, can the priest be forgiven for his blasphemy.
After a final prayer by the Pontiff, the priest is then allowed to be returned to his priesthood. Although, such a sin leaves a stain on one's record - one that will never truly wash out.
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2024.05.21 14:01 tHeOctane32 SEO Tips for Mauritian Websites: Boost Your Local Visibility

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2024.05.21 13:57 jachorus Mini tutorial: circumventing Vimm's "Download unavailable at the request of Nintendo of America"

Basically the roms are still on the server and it's just the download button that is deactivated, and I found a method to still download those seemingly unavailable roms. I'm not sure if it's the easiest one but it's the one I found to be working reliably, if anyone has an easier one feel free to share.
  1. Firstly, go to vimm's vault and open the page of the unavailable game you want to download
  2. Now look for any other game that can still be downloaded and open it in another tab (the game doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is that it has the download button available)
  3. For the sake of simplicity we will call the tab in the first step "true game" and the second one "proxy game"
  4. Go to the "true game" tab and do "right-click -> inspect" on any part of the website
  5. Don't worry if you don't understand this stuff, you only need to perform a search (depending on your browser there will be a bar that says "Search in HTML" or you will have to activate that search bar with Ctrl+F)
  6. On that search bar input "mediaid". Keep pressing intro (this looks for the next matching result, as there will be more than one) until you find a line that reads like this: (where the XXXXX are actually a string of numbers)
  7. Copy or write down that number and you can now close the "true game" tab, we won't need it anymore
  8. Go to the "proxy game" tab and repeat the steps 5 and 6
  9. Now instead of copying it you will replace that number by the one we already copied before from the "true game". Some browsers allow you to directly edit the values but in other browsers you will have to right click on the value and select "Edit attribute"
  10. Once done you can click the download button of the "proxy game". If it all went well it will download the "true game" instead of the "proxy game"
And that's it, if you didn't understand something tell me in the comments and I will make it as clear as possible.
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2024.05.21 13:54 Letmelogin1 Being denied unemployment for a form that doesn't exist

The unemployment office is denying my application because they want my DD214 Member 4. This form no longer exists and despite me trying to explain this to them they are still not accepting that this is an issue. I am pissed because this reminds me of the time I tried to get food stamps in California and was denied because I didn't have a job. I wouldn't be here if I had a job stupid! What is the point of me paying into these programs if they are never available? Below is the last email I sent to her. Obviously a cunty response but I'm upset.
XXXX,
I just spoke to the Air Force Personnel Center and the form you are requesting no longer exists as of April. I have a reference from AFPC in this email below. You can also call them at 1-800-525-0102 to confirm with them yourself. I obviously will not be able to provide you with a document that no longer exists. The long form DD214 (one I sent you) is the only document being issued now for purposes such as unemployment. I have also opened a case with AFPC and have given them your information, so they may reach out to you as well. Please do your due diligence and reach out to me when you have confirmed this new information. I suspect policies on your end will need to be updated.
Vr
XXXX
XXX-XXX-XXXX
TSG XXX XXXXXX
Please see the updated guidance as to the DD214 changes:
February of 2022, revised DODI 1336.01 (Certificate of Uniformed Service (DD form 214/5 Series) was released annoucing a new DD Form 214 “Certificate of Uniformed Service” , DD Form 214-1 (Guard/Reserve) “Certificate of Uniformed Service, Reserve Component Addendum” and DD Form 215 “Correction to DD Form 214, Certificate of Uniformed Service”. AFPC, ARPC and Guard have been working on the requirements to modify vMPF to match the format of the new forms.
Below are some of the major changes you will see on the new DD Form 214. A new DD214 PSDG will be released just before the release of the new form.
  1. New form has only four pages labeled “Member, Service, Veterans Administration, Department of Labor.
  2. Most of the blocks have been renumbered due to new data blocks reflected on the form.
  3. ~Block 3 “SSN” has been changed to “DoD ID Number”. The SSAN will no longer be used on the form.~
  4. Block 4 “Serial Number’ will reflect a unique identifier for a record of active serivce that enables version control. The serial number is comprised of Service Code, Date of Separation, 5-byte number, 1-byte version (for example, A2014060100125-0). Further clarification can be found in DODI 1336.01, G.2 Definations. This will reflect on the final form upon separation/retirement date.
  5. Block 7b. “Reserve Status for Obligation”, will reflected either “Selected Reserve, Individual Ready Reseve, or N/A” if no obligation.
  6. Block 7c., “Contact Phone number” and 7d., “Contact Email Address” have been added to the form.
  7. Block 13e. “Total Active Service” which will reflect the total of adding blocks 13c “Net Active Service this Period” and 13d. “Total Prior Active Service”.
  8. Block 18. Retirement System Option reflecting the retirement system the service member is enrolled in at time 214 is completed.
  9. Block 19. DD214-1 (Accompanies this DD214) will be for Reserve/Guard usage.
  10. Block 20 is now block 22
Along with those changes the below blocks have been relabled for different data and the requirement for the data that is currently reflected for those blocks will no longer be required. 15a Commissioned Through Service Academy 15b. Commisioned through ROCT Scholardship 15c. Enlisted Under Loan Repayment program 20a. Member Request copy 3 be sent to the Central Office of the Deparment of Veterans Affairs (Washington DC) 30. Member Request Copy 4
Thank You,
Technician, Total Force Service Center
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2024.05.21 13:49 The_Naked_Buddhist A Deep Dive into the political beliefs of Aon Tu, as presented via their Twitter accounts. Presented without comment.

Lately, both in person and on this sub, I have seen a worrying amount of misinformation spreading about the political party Aon Tu. This misinformation either states that they are a left/liberal party or that they are not right/conservative. This is however clearly wrong as any amount of inspection of their statements and social media makes clear; any clear dive into their policies and statements make it clear that they are instead very right wing, if not far right. They use the many familiar terms associated with similar parties, hold the same stances, and even retweet them and their content.
In order to illustrate this below I am presenting the various tweets made by Peadar Tóibín (the current leader of the party, their founder, and currently sole elected official) as well as their official twitter account. I have limited it solely to tweets due to time and space constraints, I have also had to limit the amount of tweets due to the same constraints There is more and I strongly encourage anyway to check their accounts for themselves. If there is interest I can do a deep dive into their other socials and statements, however I do not think there is a way to access the backlog of debates they have had on RTE and radio unfortunately. I believe this thread will stand on it's own however and other such threads won't be needed.
I will present the below tweets without comment, sorting them only into sections for ease of reading. Some may contain a note below in order to give more context as to what the tweet is referencing. The one section I did not include was the various tweets on the referendum, this is because due to recency I did not think it was needed.
Edit: Fixed some formatting errors below that escaped notice when first posting, as well as one entry being under the wrong heading.
Vaccine Denial:
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 12/07/2021
Aontú opposes vaccine Passports for indoor Hospitality.
Its discrimination against many people mostly the young.
Its mandatory vaccination through the back door.
Again the Irish Gov is alone in the whole of Europe in the extreme path it's taking.
Tweeted by Toibin; 17/10/2021
99.7% of the adult population in Waterford is fully vaccinated, yet it has one of the highest Covid-19 incidence rates in the country.
The truth is the Gov don't know why this is happening.
Now they will refuse entry to pubs to 0.3% unvaccinated to see does that work. #NPHET
Tweeted by Toibin; 10/01/2022
No, it's not April Fools day.
That people being paid by the state are actually discussing this is incredible.
FF/FG/Greens need to knock this madness on the head ASAP.
Note: Linked news article can be found here; Nphet to consider mandatory vaccination, department preparing paper on legal and ethical aspects
Tweeted by Toibin; 12/10/2022
I have submitted this question;
To ask the Minister for Health, has he or his department ever received any data, evidence or information from Pfizer that indicates that that the Pfizer Covid Vaccine was ever tested in terms of its ability to stop the transmission of Covid?
Anti Covid Lockdown:
Tweeted by Toibin; 15/11/2020
480 people got Cancer today.
24 people died of Cancer today
27 people died of Heart Disease and Stroke today.
This will hardly get a mention in the media today.
#COVID19
Tweeted by Toibin; 13/05/2021
8 deaths related to Covid were reported yesterday.
We share our deepest sympathies with these families.
The manner in which Covid deaths are being reported is concerning.
They were all from March or earlier.
Reporting them yesterday gives people a false impression of risk.
Tweeted by Toibin; 26/05/2021
The majority of people who died from Covid caught Covid in a Nursing Home or a Hospital.
So while the whole country was shut closed most people died in locations that were run by or regulated by the government.
This is an incredible situation.
Note: A video is attached.
Tweeted by Toibin; 05/06/2021
All the the people with Covid in Hospital in Ireland would fit on 1 Double Decker Bus.
Yet people were baton charged in Dublin last night and
Pubs and Restaurants wont open indoors for another month.
#ItsTimeForCommonSense #OpenHospitality #southwilliamst #Aontú
Tweeted by Toibin; 14/07/2021
The Government's Hospitality Discrimination Bill has passed all stages in the Dáil after only a few hours of debate.
It will be now legal to discriminate against certain Irish citizens.
A sad day for Ireland.
Note: The bill which has a picture taken of it in the tweet can be read here.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 30/10/2021
Some citizens are allowed into pubs.
Some citizens are not.
It's stunning that this has happened in the 21st century.
It's stunning that so much of society has just accepted it.
Worst of all, it's not even working.
Tweeted by Toibin; 24/11/2021
I have recieved information that the Goverment,
has carried out NO scientific research into the effectiveness or otherwise of the Covid Pass.
At all.
#FollowTheScience #TheySaid
Tweeted by Toibin; 17/12/2021
Are the Gov going to say that a healthy young person thats triple vaccinated along with their Covid Pass can't have a pint after 5pm.
What's the point of it all so?
Tweeted by Toibin; 21/01/2022
Very interesting to see Nphet and the Dept of Health go from researching Mandatory Vaccines to lifting restrictions in 10 days!
Anti LGBT:
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 24/10/2022
Women live in period poverty just a few miles from the Dáil.
Instead of helping them,
your virtual signalling political establishment
put a tampon machine in the men's toilet in the Dáil.
Tweeted by Toibin; 16/02/2023
Plans by FF, FG & Greens to change the law to allow 16 year olds to legally change gender, against advice of medical experts,
shows how completely alienated the political bubble is from the people of Ireland.
Aontú will oppose this and seek a return to commonsense and science.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 05/03/2023
When Minister O Gorman refused redress to many who had been in Mother and Baby Homes because of the 'lack of money', he raided hundreds of thousands from the Magdalene Scheme and Travellers supports & diverted the funding towards the LGBTQ+ Community.
Note: There is an article linked in the tweet, about an accusation made by Toibin. Read it here
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 06/03/2023
Varadkar is wrong. 9 &10 year old children are too young to be taught about transgenderism. We have a duty of care to children.
No research has been has been carried out on the impact of such education.
Tweeted by Toibin; 07/03/2023
I've asked the Minister for Ed what research has the Dept of Education carried out
on the impact on primary school children of delivering material on Transgenderism to them in the classroom?
We've a duty of care to children.
Education should be based on evidence not ideology.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 08/03/2023
Tóibín asked Varadkar if his Gov had carried out any research as to the impact on 8 & 9 year old children of teaching about transgenderism in primary school.
Leo refused to answer the question.
Radical changes are being introduced against majority consent.
Note: There is an attached video.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 15/03/2023
Many people have been shocked by Paul Murphy's announcement.
But what's more shocking is that FF, FG, SF and the Greens,
are on exactly the same page as the hard left parties on teaching this ideology in every primary school in the country.
Tweeted by Toibin; 21/05/2023
This is incredible. All the actual crime that is happening on our streets and Gardaí are wasting time like this.
Even though there was no arrest here, this harassment creates a clear chilling effect on free speech and political discourse.
Note: There is an attached video in the tweet retweeted by Toibin, in it a Gardai is holding a polite conversation with an American holding a sign against "Gender Ideology." In their Twitter bio they describe themselves; "Father of two girls. Traveling the world to expose gender ideology and why children cannot consent to medical transition."
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 07/07/2023
Growing concern among parents that the new curriculum for 12 & 13 years in school is not age appropriate & is not science based.
Gender identity ideology is now mandatory for schools & thousands of parents will have no option but to withdraw their child from class.
Note: This article is linked on the topic of a statement made by Toibin.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 23/07/2023
This is why so many are angry with the Minister for Culture Wars, Helen McEntee.
Homicides are up, murder attempts are up, rape & sexual assaults are up, theft is up. Yet....
Gardaí management are focused on allowing male born Gardaí use women’s toilets.
Note: There is an attached article; here
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 28/09/2023
The Green Party are becoming increasingly authoritarian in nature.
If you dissent from government sanctioned views, you will be investigated.
This is the opposite of a liberal democracy.
Note: There is a linked article; it pertains to an investigation by the IABA into the usage of their premises by a "Christian Group" advocating for the removal of all LGBT+ content from the SPHE curriculum.
Tweeted by Toibin; 14/03/2024
It is reckless beyond belief to give dangerous chemicals and irreversible surgery to children with gender dysphoria.
This must be made illegal in Ireland immediately.
Note: Includes a retweet of this news article.
Anti Hatespeech bill:
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 15/06/2023
Helen McEntee has become the Minister for Culture Wars.
Incredibly Varadkar accused PBP of being a threat to Free Speech.
FG, FF & the Greens are the biggest threat to free speech.
Note: There is a link article here.
Tweeted by Toibin; 26/07/2023
US gives Dublin a security warning for US citizens travelling to Ireland.
Meanwhile Minister McEntee is too busy with the Hate Speech Bill and Safe Zone Bill to worry about real people suffering actual crime.
Tweeted by Toibin; 28/03/2024
Helen McEntee is distracted by the Culture Wars.
People just want her to do her job, & make the streets safer.
Instead, she spent the last two years on a Hate Crime Bill no one wants. #BinTheBill
Note: There is an attached video.
Other:
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 15/02/2023
In the Dáil yesterday the hard left tried to close down a discussion on migration by calling people names.
This issue is too important. People have a right to respectfully ask questions and challange government policy.
Note: There is an attached video; it does not depict such name calling but rather Toibin accusing the government of name calling.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 24/07/2023
Another day and another culture war imported by the government from America.
Note: A retweet from Gript media with an attached video.
Tweeted by Toibin; 12/03/2024
There is a battle over the narrative of the referendum defeat happening at the moment.
Some within the political & media bubble want to erase the fact that so many people have had enough of the culture wars and want the country to get back to commonsense and bread and butter.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 19/03/2024
At a Dept of Education 'In Service' day,
their staff told secondary school teachers not to use the word 'Mother' in class as they said it was not inclusive.
They are implementing Gov policy.
Aontú disagrees wholeheartedly with this policy.
Happy Mothers Day.
Tweeted by Toibin; 10/04/2024
Says the man who seeks to delete more Irish sovereignty with the EU migration pact.
Note: A retweet from Simon Harris talking about the need to defend Ukraine's sovereignty.
Tweeted by Aon Tu; 11/04/2024
The decision by FG, FF and Green MEPs to cede the power to control immigration into Ireland to Brussels was a serious mistake. Aontú oppose this pact and will fight to retain and regain sovereignty in Europe #aontú
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2024.05.21 13:48 Letmelogin1 [Hawaii] Veteran Being denied unemployment for a form that doesn't exist

The unemployment office is denying my application because they want my DD214 Member 4. This form no longer exists and despite me trying to explain this to them they are still not accepting that this is an issue. I am pissed because this reminds me of the time I tried to get food stamps in California and was denied because I didn't have a job. I wouldn't be here if I had a job stupid! What is the point of me paying into these programs if they are never available? Below is the last email I sent to her. Obviously a cunty response but I'm upset.
XXXX,
I just spoke to the Air Force Personnel Center and the form you are requesting no longer exists as of April. I have a reference from AFPC in this email below. You can also call them at 1-800-525-0102 to confirm with them yourself. I obviously will not be able to provide you with a document that no longer exists. The long form DD214 (one I sent you) is the only document being issued now for purposes such as unemployment. I have also opened a case with AFPC and have given them your information, so they may reach out to you as well. Please do your due diligence and reach out to me when you have confirmed this new information. I suspect policies on your end will need to be updated.
Vr
XXXX
XXX-XXX-XXXX
TSG XXX XXXXXX
Please see the updated guidance as to the DD214 changes:
February of 2022, revised DODI 1336.01 (Certificate of Uniformed Service (DD form 214/5 Series) was released annoucing a new DD Form 214 “Certificate of Uniformed Service” , DD Form 214-1 (Guard/Reserve) “Certificate of Uniformed Service, Reserve Component Addendum” and DD Form 215 “Correction to DD Form 214, Certificate of Uniformed Service”. AFPC, ARPC and Guard have been working on the requirements to modify vMPF to match the format of the new forms.
Below are some of the major changes you will see on the new DD Form 214. A new DD214 PSDG will be released just before the release of the new form.
  1. New form has only four pages labeled “Member, Service, Veterans Administration, Department of Labor.
  2. Most of the blocks have been renumbered due to new data blocks reflected on the form.
  3. ~Block 3 “SSN” has been changed to “DoD ID Number”. The SSAN will no longer be used on the form.~
  4. Block 4 “Serial Number’ will reflect a unique identifier for a record of active serivce that enables version control. The serial number is comprised of Service Code, Date of Separation, 5-byte number, 1-byte version (for example, A2014060100125-0). Further clarification can be found in DODI 1336.01, G.2 Definations. This will reflect on the final form upon separation/retirement date.
  5. Block 7b. “Reserve Status for Obligation”, will reflected either “Selected Reserve, Individual Ready Reseve, or N/A” if no obligation.
  6. Block 7c., “Contact Phone number” and 7d., “Contact Email Address” have been added to the form.
  7. Block 13e. “Total Active Service” which will reflect the total of adding blocks 13c “Net Active Service this Period” and 13d. “Total Prior Active Service”.
  8. Block 18. Retirement System Option reflecting the retirement system the service member is enrolled in at time 214 is completed.
  9. Block 19. DD214-1 (Accompanies this DD214) will be for Reserve/Guard usage.
  10. Block 20 is now block 22
Along with those changes the below blocks have been relabled for different data and the requirement for the data that is currently reflected for those blocks will no longer be required. 15a Commissioned Through Service Academy 15b. Commisioned through ROCT Scholardship 15c. Enlisted Under Loan Repayment program 20a. Member Request copy 3 be sent to the Central Office of the Deparment of Veterans Affairs (Washington DC) 30. Member Request Copy 4
Thank You,
Technician, Total Force Service Center
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