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2024.04.19 04:38 MagiliwUniverse AlamatPH

ALAMAT is a 6-member idol boy group from the Philippines. Its members comprise of Taneo, Mo, Jao, Tomas, R-ji, and Alas. Their creative direction centers on championing the Filipino identity and culture through their music.
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2023.08.13 13:57 AlamatPH

Mabuhay! Tuloy sa Barangay Magiliw! 😀 This is a community for Alamat fans- Magiliws, to discuss everything about Alamat (updates, gigs, etc... or just to express your love for the group🙂) Sino nga ba ang Alamat? (Who is Alamat?) Alamat is a 6 member boygroup from the Philippines under Viva Artists Agency and Ninuno Media, that advocates Filipino culture. They are also known for singing in different Philippine languages.
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2008.07.04 14:24 Philippines - all about the Philippines

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2024.05.10 21:51 OmeletteMcMuffin Is ALAMAT's advocacy performative? (Some thoughts)

Is ALAMAT's advocacy performative? (Some thoughts)
Hello! Sorry this took me so long. I’m here to try to answer the question of ALAMAT’s advocacy being performative or not. Buckle up because this is... very lengthy. (That’s why it took me so long to post it.) Please do not screenshot my post and share it on other platforms; I have extreme anxiety.
First off, let’s define the word “performative.” Merriam-Webster defines it as “(disapproving) made or done for show (as to bolster one’s own image or make a positive impression on others).” This definition is undoubtedly what is being meant when some people call ALAMAT’s advocacy performative.
So… what is their advocacy? This was their mission statement before:
“Sa pamamagitan ng musika, layunin ng ALAMAT ang ipagdiwang ang ating pagka-Pilipino at maitanim sa puso’t isipan ng mga kabataang Pinoy na hindi kailangan hubarin ang ating kultura’t pagkakakilanlan para lamang umangat at makilala sa pandaigdigang entablado.”
(Through music, ALAMAT’s mission is to celebrate our Filipino identity and to instill in the hearts and minds of the Filipino youth that we do not need to discard our culture and heritage in order to succeed and be recognized on the world stage.)
This is found in the description of their newer videos: “Alamat is a 6-member sing-rap-dance boy group from the Philippines that combines both traditional and modern Philippine cultural elements with Western/global influences in the various facets of their music, including dance, fashion, and iconography.”
I believe their newer statement is more in line with what they’re actually doing and puts less pressure on them. Their thing has always been taking precolonial cultural elements and modernizing them, and using indigenous elements but adding Western influences. It’s never been about “pure” representations, but infusing postcolonial, Westernized Filipino culture with precolonial or indigenous elements.
When some people call their advocacy performative, they are trying to say that:
1. ALAMAT’s concept of multiculturalism and embracing indigenous Philippine culture(s) is purely a gimmick. The members do not care about it, and neither does the creative director. Is that true? Let’s investigate:
I believe that it is possible for the members not to care about it if they were all pale-skinned, mestizo guys from Manila. However, all of them are probinsyanos, not all of them fit the dominant Eurocentric/East Asian-centric beauty standards, and most of them speak a different language (not Tagalog) as their mother tongue.
The director mentioned before that he specifically chose members who were short, because the industry favors taller men (despite the fact that the average height in the Philippines is considerably shorter than other countries’). Tomas alone is, in more than one way, the exact kind of person who can’t not care about ALAMAT’s advocacy: he is the shortest member, standing at around 5’5”, he’s moreno, and he’s a Bicolano speaker who has an accent when speaking in Tagalog. He talked about it here, all the way back in August 2021 pa. He said that he often got rejected in the acting industry because of his Bicolano accent.
Mo is visibly and proudly Blasian, Tomas is a short, moreno Bicolano, and Taneo is moreno and Indigenous on his father’s side. Even the members who fit the hegemonic beauty standards more — Jao with his tisoy/chinito looks, Alas with his pale skin and chinito looks, R-Ji who is fairly tall for a Filipino guy and has classically tisoy facial features a la Kyle Echarri — would struggle to fit in the industry for other reasons. Alas mentioned in the same interview as that one (more on that later) that he was often bullied for being Bisaya.
Hollywood actor Alex Mallari Jr. (Ginny & Georgia, The Adam Project) even Tweeted before that he wouldn’t be able to find acting work in the Philippines because he’s Kapampangan and moreno. (I can’t find the Tweet anymore because he deleted his account, sadly.)
The Philippine entertainment industry is highly colorist, highly favors Eurocentric and East Asian looks, and strongly discriminates against people from the probinsya, especially those whose first language isn’t Tagalog. My point here is that I would believe that these guys do not genuinely care about the advocacy/concept if they were the type of guys who could easily succeed in the industry without thinking about those things. But they are not.
Mo did a (really beautiful) interview with Mixed Asian Media, an independent online zine, not some prestigious, high-profile publication, in September 2023. He spoke about his mixed Black and Filipino identity. It is clear that this advocacy of promoting Filipino multiculturalism is highly personal to the members.
I’m not gonna lie — I think one of the main reasons that they have a reputation for “not being able to talk about their advocacy properly” is that a lot of people have unreasonable expectations regarding their speaking skills. They are young entertainers who simply have lived experiences that make the concept highly relevant to them. They are not academics and they are not diplomats. Not to mention that some of them aren’t confident when they speak in English or Tagalog.
They do explain their own emotional investment in the concept as well as they should reasonably be expected to explain it (“I care about it because I know how discrimination/lack of representation has affected me and the impact it’s had on people around me as well, so what we do makes me feel less insecure about my own cultural identity”).
You’ve got the members passionately speaking out about their own experiences (like here) and you’ve got academics for the more formal explanations. It’s not like they don’t invite academics to their platform, you know? An Akeanon professor who has published many relevant sociolinguistics studies spoke on one of their videos and they literally had a historian on their channel during their debut era.
As for their creative director, promoting multilingualism and multiculturalism has been this guy’s thing even before ALAMAT came to be. I know a lot of people aren’t huge fans of his, but we need to acknowledge that. I don’t get this idea that he’s just using this concept to make a quick buck because the Filipino entertainment industry and society still vastly favor Tagalog-centrism. Doing this concept was and is a risk.
He wrote the script for 2 Cool 2 Be 4Gotten (2016) and it features the Kapampangan language, even though it’s not directly related to the plot at all. Beauty Gonzalez was speaking in her native language, Cebuano Bisaya, in The Third Party (2016), even though it has no relevance to the plot or setting (a woman in Manila has to live with her bisexual ex and his boyfriend). His 2018 film, Bakwit Boys, heavily features the Kapampangan culture and language, inspired by his own upbringing.
As I’ve mentioned before, a few years ago, I found a research paper that included his blog post from 2007. To my amusement, he was credited simply as a “Filipino blogger,” but yeah… even in 2007, he was already speaking up about the discrimination against Bisaya folks, even though he himself is Kapampangan and not Bisaya.
2) They are only using Indigenous aesthetics, but don’t care about Indigenous peoples of the Philippines. Likewise, they use aesthetics from non-Tagalog cultures but don’t uplift non-Tagalog people.
To be honest, I believe that much of this is answered by the stuff above. However, putting aside the members’ own ethnic and cultural backgrounds, they definitely do work with and feature a lot of Indigenous and non-Tagalog talents on their platform. Some examples:
  • They featured various Indigenous/non-Tagalog language speakers (besides the members) on one of their languages comparison video: https://youtu.be/KU0iUX6d7Ys
  • They highlighted an Aeta tribe in “ABKD” and worked closely with them.
  • A Maranao performer did a solo at their Pasulong album launch: https://youtu.be/oBTkIp7fu3Q?t=2675
  • “say u love me” was co-written by Jin Chan, a Bisaya artist from Davao.
  • “Day & Night” was co-written and co-composed by Therese Villarante-Langit, a Vispop artist who wrote Vispop songs like “My Morena Girl” (probably the most recognizable one).
  • They also consistently give proper credit to the sources of their indigenous textiles. For example, you can easily find credits for Hanap Habi and Kandama Collective in the “Dagundong” MV description. They have worked with Hanap Habi and Kandama Collective for a long time now. Hanap Habi supports Indigenous female weavers in Benguet and Kandama Collective is owned by Victor Baguilat Jr., who is Ifugao.
Aside from that, they also publicly supported Indigenous rights at UP Fair this year:
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Predebut, Alas was also a youth coordinator for Let's Do It Philippines in Davao, which he talked about in their broadcast channel. LDIP is a grassroots coalition for environmental action, and he stated that his team helped Indigenous folks in Mindanao solve environmental issues.
Of course, there are always ways for the advocacy to be represented better. I myself have a major criticism of their MVs:
Their leading ladies are usually still very mestiza or chinita. There’s nothing wrong, of course, with having a mestiza/chinita leading lady. However, in “ABKD,” they show a young Aeta girl whose self-esteem is damaged by Eurocentric beauty standards and colorism. Yet their music videos often reinforce this beauty standard by almost always casting mestiza/fair-skinned chinita women as romantic leads. This beauty standard has an even greater impact on Filipina girls/women than men.
It’s sad, TBH, that “Maharani” is probably their only MV with naturalistic color grading among the ones that feature a romance storyline. Probably because Jhoanna is the only leading lady they’ve gotten so far* who actually registers as morena on-screen even without a filter that makes her look darker:
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* I am aware that they featured Lyca Gairanod in their “ILY ILY” MV, but she was shown as the members’ classmate/sister(? unclear which), not in a romantic context.
I really hope they get morena leading ladies in upcoming MVs, especially after the “ABKD” MV condemned colorist beauty standards that damage the self-esteem of young girls especially. I know for a fact that Viva has morena talents, so even if they wanted to keep it in-house, they can still do better. Morena girls deserve to be shown as worthy of love. I hope the group features a more visually diverse set of leading ladies, as a part of their advocacy.
But yeah. Their advocacy is not perfect, but what we see indicates that the members’ and the creative team’s intentions are sincere. There are ways for it to be better, but they are definitely not performative and have already done so much great work in the few years that they have been a group.
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2024.05.08 06:45 thatfilipinoguy Filipino music will enter a new golden age soon and the industry isn't ready yet

As a person na napapagitnaan ng gen z at millenials, (end ng millenials at start ng gen z) I have witnessed as a kid yung slow "death" ng opm during the late 2000's to early 2010's, yung clamor ng people na opm is dying during those years and then the mid 2010's had a little bit of resurgence but mostly sa mga OPM bands lang nangyari yung resurgence na ito.
Recently though, it feels like we're about to enter a new golden age of Filipino music in all corners, from rock, hiphop and of course ppop. I think i've seen some sentiments already na we're already in the golden age pero yung argument ko why hindi pa and we're just about to enter is because we haven't seen the peak of modern pinoy hiphop and ppop yet (hint: it's gonna get bigger) while yung rock/band scene naman natin is a proven scene na.
What's sad about this though is that our music industry is still archaic and wala pa tayong infrastructure. Our music industry is not ready for the growth of modern ppop and hiphop that's about to come and I think the people in the industry is stuck in their ways during the 90's era.
As some of the posters in this sub have stated before, yung mga companies natin ay driven by short term profit goals and the worst thing that could happen with our ppop groups is that gatasan lang sila without upgrading the whole ecosystem to sustain the growth para magkaroon ng susunod na gens itong scene. The thing i'm most afraid about is that kahit na lumaki yung mga current groups na sikat ngayon is that when they call it quits the genre dies along with it too dahil walang proper infra na nasetup ang industry.
My question is, are there any insiders in here or may mga naririnig na balita na good news and can dispel this notion na walang investment na ginagawa ang music industry naten to sustain this growth at hindi lang ito pansamantala na when any of SB19, Bini, Alamat (if they grow) start getting old and eventually retire sa idol life, the genre dies too?
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2024.05.06 00:33 Webfoot33 ALAMAT IS NOT BEING PERFORMATIVE

I was waiting for the comment that said they will make a thread about this pero hindi na ako makapaghintay, I'm sorry. I really need to say thism
I have always seen stray comments that ALAMAT is being performative which I think is really just dismissive. I'm a HUGE fan although very new and their multilingual songs have a Tagalog-speaker like me become more interested in other PH languages and Baybayin. They make me love my culture. I have never felt this connected to the Philippines. I have never wanted to stay here in this forsaken country so much because of them. They change people's perceptions. They make people learn.
I really love the midnight food postings. I also love that they have discussions on indigenous people. I have never known that Sama Dilaut was the right term for Filipino sea gypsies and not "Badjau" but because of them, now I do. I have never known about the St. Louis World Fair before but when I watched Kasmala, I got interested behind the set design and watched the reaction/analysis video and learned so much. I didn't know that American colonialism was so romanticized and was so different from our taught history. Upon watching Dayang, I got interested sa Tausug culture. AND if you saw that post on Twitter of the ALAMAT official account about the Tausug dish you'd understand that there are people from that culture who appreciate what ALAMAT's doing. Upon hearing Dong-Dong-Ay and ILY ILY, I have never appreciated our folk songs and kundimans more. Hell, they're among my favorites in the while discography. Like how cool is that? DDA being about hope and victory especially towards the young generation and ILY ILY about the struggles of not just OFWs but their family. Fck, it makes you cry in appreciation and nostalgia.
God knows how much I love Maharani and Dayang's choreography to the point na inaral ko talaga kahit di ako marunong sumayaw. The former is inspired by Luzon ,Visayas, and Mindanao courtship dances while the latter is inspired by indigenous martial arts. How fucking cool is that? Even Day and Night has Bagobo Tagabawa and Pantomina de Albay. I learned all of these dances kasi interested ako sa mga cultures behind them. Isa pa, yung mga multilingual verse sa ILY ILY, kbye, and HALA which heavily incorporated the languages through fast raps and ballads, I learned all of that hindi lang dahil maganda yung mga kanta pero dahil din I am in awe of Philippine languages. I never knew they could sound so good.
People cling to the past so much. As a new fan, I haven't seen JPL at all in twitter and di ko nawitness yung kanyang mga interactions with fans. However, if you look at Twitter now pati sa mga bagong interviews nila, they've improved significantly. Their recent interviews especially the Wish Bus 107.5 performance was so well-spoken especially when Taneo introduced Dong-Dong-Ay. I almost teared up. Imagine him a Kalinga who was affected by the diaspora talking about DDA, introducing it in front of the world and reconnecting with his culture? That is just so lovely to think about.
Tbh, I'm one of the people who followed them but doubted them. I became their fan 6 months ago at a point when there's so much need for improvement. Hindi active official account, interview materials were not giving, and the live performances were a little stable pero unsynchronized ang dancing. Pero AGAIN, compared to now, THEY HAVE IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY. Hindi perpekto ang ALAMAT at ang kanilang team pero isa sila sa mga parte ng music industry, especially sa PPOP scene, na talagang nakakapagbigay ng representasyon sa mga indigenous people and our culture. NO ONE can DISCREDIT any of these people just like that. Even JPL himself who made mistakes na hindi dahil dun sa mistakes na yun, tatanggalin niyo na ang kanyang contribution sa ALAMAT.
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2024.05.05 10:24 Particular_Buy_9090 Multilingual BINI Members

Sa tingin niyo magre-release sila ng songs in their native tongue like Alamat does? I think that would be cool and inclusive para sa lahat ng Filipinos.
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2024.05.01 20:59 Realistic-Effective5 Will Alamat have to change their concept to capture an International audience? Does it really matter, or are they content catering to mostly Filipino fans?

Let me start by saying I love Alamat, and I've been a fan since shortly after I discovered PPop. The care that they have in producing songs that are meaningful to Filipinos got me from day one, and it's why I'm always excited about their new releases - especially as a Pinoy living abroad.
Recently they were interviewed by BBC to showcase PPop, and a lot of the context was around how they bring Filipino culture, language, fashion, textiles and history to their music. I think PPop in general has the makings to become more recognized globally with SB19 and BINI leading the way. A lot of folks love to include Alamat as the "Holy Trinity" but it had me also thinking: Will their hyper cultural vibe be a barrier for international audiences to get into them and their music?
Now don't get me wrong - I've seen the YouTube reactions from (mostly Black and Latino) reactors who like Alamat, and they understand the concept - probably because there's a bit of history that is relatable to them and parallels their cultural experience. I think they could do well in Latin America. But what about everyone else? Like do you think they can make it big with East Asian audiences? White Westerners in US and Europe? Australia?
And if that's not the case, does it really matter? Or can/will they continue to focus on Filipino diasporas globally?
It'll be interesting because they're coming to Toronto to perform at a festival this summer, and this will be their first trip to North America AFAIK... I really hope it's well attended, and I also wonder what kind of media engagements and activations they'll do when they're here.
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2024.04.28 11:01 sagingsagingsaging Sadly, some negative reacts from Alamat's BBC reel

Sadly, some negative reacts from Alamat's BBC reel
Screenshot courtesy of @ mourilim on X/twitter
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2024.04.28 03:50 Last-Survey-5187 ALAMAT Appreciation + Face Cards + 400K Spotify ML!!!

ALAMAT Appreciation + Face Cards + 400K Spotify ML!!!
First of all, happy 400K listeners to ALAMAT!!! Deserve na deserve ito ng 6inoos! Here's to 500K monthly listeners naman and consistent rise to 1M! Their concept is really one of the best and I'm always rooting for them because it really is their mission to incorporate Filipino culture in all aspects of their idol identity. Tbh they're so underrated despite having a no skip discography and THEIR CONCEPT ITSELF??? I don't understand how not everyone is in awe whenever they see this group which is literally so distinctly Pinoy that you can hear it in their sounds and see it in their choreography which are INSPIRED BY OR INCORPORATES our ETHNIC DANCES. Like???? First time I've heard of them, (and I'm so new to PPOP) I was LITERALLY MINDBLOWN. I'm glad their fanbase is growing steadily. They're among one of the gems in PPOP.
Now onto my next discussion...ALAMAT is known for being very diverse, and this diversity even extend to their beauty. That's why they don't have an official visual position because there is no one standard for Filipino beauty. However, I recently saw a tweet that promoted their face cards to casuals. I looked at the quote retweets and all I can say is that...I was kind of not surprised sa mga comments.
To be fair, the pictures used objectively did not have good makeup, which by the way also happens once or twice everytime may ganap sila and that's another issue na, but also mostly nagfocus yung tweet on showing their "sexy" side which I think runs contrary to what was trying to be shown. I mean, when we say face cards, we're not supposed to be looking at their body right? Also, personally, I don't want to see people's abs, muscles, or curves right away especially when starting to get into a group. In my opinion, that's inviting sexualization or being a bit superficial. Mas okay na yung visual na lang sana ipakita. Now because of that, naq-question tuloy ang kanilang face cards when these boys are literally very great in terms of beauty, not just the ethnicity feels but the type talaga...may cute, boy-next-door, euroasian, chinito, pretty boy, princely, etc.
Kaya mga magiliw, please use these photos or any other ones that highlight their beauty! Please! Hindi ko rin mahanap yung sa latest Wishbus nila pero lahat sila dun blooming so suggest ko na gamitin din yun. The boys are so pretty and handsome, huwag natin igatekeep. Let's keep rising!!!

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2024.04.25 10:47 sagingsagingsaging [BBC Reel] Alamat on a mission to showcase Filipino culture through music 25042024

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2024.04.25 10:45 sagingsagingsaging [BBC Reel] Alamat on a mission to showcase Filipino culture through music 25042024

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2024.04.25 03:06 Momshie_mo Regarding some Ppop group names

As suggested by u/sagingsagingsaging, I'm posting a separate thread about Ppop group names that also exist in other countries.
For example, Aster, which is Latin for star and also a kind of a plant. I was trying to find if there are any articles about them, but what I got is:
There's an indie band in the PH called Aster and a South Korean Artist named Aster, too that I found in Spotify.
This can cause conflict and confusion in the future and chances are, it will be more difficult to find information about them in the future unless people have "advanced search skill" - I mean, people will need to know how to refine their search to get more articles about the "correct" Aster they want to get more information on.
Another probably problem name is Pix!e. Well, one of the most popular Thai girl groups right now is PiXXie. Given the popularity of the other group, there a possibility of fandom wars.
Sana man lang, magresearch muna ang management kung gagamit sila esp ng hindi local language na band name.
One reason why Ben&Ben was changed from The Benjamins is it is not "search friendly" as there are many bands with that name. Sponge Cola also used to be just Sponge, but when they learned there's a band in the US with the same name, they added "Cola".
Sa akin lang, maganda sana kung derived sa local languages ang band names. Masmagkakaroon pa sila ng unique identity based on name alone.
As much as I criticize ALAMAT's management, the band name is something I will not criticize. It's easy to remember for both Filipinos and non-Filipinos and quite symbolic without being complicated. BINI is also apt coming from Binibini. Even BINI is a "foreigner-friendly" Filipino word.
Another example on the opposite, yung Cup of Joe. I like their music pero ang dami ko pang kailangan ilagay na modifier sa search bar para lang makahanap ng article tungkol sa kanila 🫣
Yung Sugarcane, ang hirap hanapan din ng article sa internet kung di mo lalagayan ng band. Buti nalang, sa mga banda sa mundo sa Sugarcane ang tawag, sila ata pinakasikat kasi may search results na Sugarcane na banda sa UK. May Indonesian band din na Sugarcane
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2024.04.15 00:25 OmeletteMcMuffin p-pop 🇵🇭 (philippine pop) idols

i hope i can talk about them a bit here. my home country's idol scene has been thriving in the past several years. i wouldn't call p-pop an "alternative" to k-pop; i'm not calling for anyone to abandon k-pop ofc and most p-pop fans (and idols themselves) are big k-pop fans too.
however, i do think a lot of people's problems with k-pop aren't present (or better) in p-pop! for example:
1) no weird age discourse. most p-pop idols are 18+, can debut at 21+ years old with no issue, and aren't shamed for being "old" when they're not.
2) live vocals with better quality. that's not to say p-pop groups never use backtrack, but 1) even when there's backtrack, you can usually hear them sing loudly over it, and 2) the standard for vocals is much higher.
some notable videos:
bini (girl group)'s dance practice for "lagi" with live vocals
ygig performing "touchdown" at a mall show (one of the girls doing high notes in the bridge + final chorus is their VISUAL and SUB VOCALIST omg...)
alamat (boy group)'s acapella cover of "end of time" by beyonce
3) diversity (at least compared to k-pop). p-pop absolutely has problems with colorism and eurocentric/east asian-centric beauty standards too. but i mean, on the topic of ygig, their official visual is known for having tan skin: https://www.instagram.com/p/CteWiqDpNp0/
alamat's main vocalist, co-leader, main rapper, and all-around ace (mo) is also half-black: https://twitter.com/Official_ALAMAT/status/1779435961484706058
and both of them are praised for being gorgeous and talented.
likewise, you can see some variations in skin tone in bini (dubbed the nation's girl group of the philippines): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKFF47JbgAEJuZW?format=jpg&name=large
they are all considered gorgeous and talented young women.
add to that the fact that the philippines has 100+ ethnic groups and languages. they have a lot of multilingual songs too, and by necessity, many p-pop groups are automatically multiethnic and multilingual (though their marketing might not necessarily focus on the diversity; i know alamat and to a lesser extent, bini do lean into the fact that their members are multiethnic + multilingual)
alamat is notable for having two members of indigenous descent (taneo, who's half-kalinga and alas, who has some tausug heritage) and a blasian member. but most p-pop groups have at least one member who belongs to an ethnolinguistic minority in the philippines (where the dominant language/ethnic group is tagalog aka "filipino").
4) "political" issues aren't THAT off-limits. there are still restrictions but most p-pop groups are very open about supporting the lgbtq+ community and aren't afraid to say words like gay, lesbian, queer, etc.
many of them also performed pretty recently at a university event for indigenous rights and spoke up for indigenous rights, even though doing so kinda directly speaks out against the ph government.
so yeah! off the top of my head, those are some cool reasons to check out p-pop idols. if you have any questions, pls feel free to ask? (including song recs, i'm fine with song rec questions hehe)
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2024.04.14 21:59 trz1122 Excited for PPOPCON 2024

I have this feeling na with the rising popularity of BINI and the impact of sb19 mas mag bo-boom na talaga ang PPop. As an A'tin, I'm super happy na re-realized na din ang Isa sa mga goals ni Pins. #PPOPRISE. Imagine dudumogin ng A'tin at Blooms ang Araneta! Baka dinna pwede sa Araneta baka PH Arena na or mas bigger pa na venue. Look at the mall show ng BINI.. mall show palang Yan ha! And the 2 day sold out concert ng SB19! In Araneta. And 3 day sod out concert ng BINI. It's like Filipinos are now appreciating local talents more, Kasi tayo live kung live talaga! With the hingal and all.. bahala na Basta live performers Yung mga talents natin. I love it! Ang saya! And with that mas makikilala pa ibang groups, like VXON, ALAMAT, g22, KAIA! Nakaka excite! Sana Naman iba2 venue each year like sa Cebu Naman or sa Davao, CDO etc. #wishfulthinking
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2024.04.13 22:18 Realistic-Effective5 Mist Music Festival rescheduled June 22-23 in Toronto Alamat, EZ Mil, Arthur Nery

Mist Music Festival rescheduled June 22-23 in Toronto Alamat, EZ Mil, Arthur Nery
I'm glad they're still coming to Toronto. There's a huge Filipino community so hopefully they can tap into that.
Is this Alamat's first North American trip?
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2024.04.13 14:42 yohannesburp ALAMAT in BBC's What in the World? podcast

ALAMAT in BBC's What in the World? podcast
"What's P-pop and could it rival K-pop?" episode
Episode description [from BBC Sounds] P-pop, or Pinoy pop, is a growing genre of music in the Philippines. It stems from OPM (Original Pilipino Music). You may be more familiar with K-pop, which is a multibillion-dollar industry. P-pop is hoping to get a slice of that global success.
One of P-pop’s biggest groups is Alamat. Each member comes from a different region of the Philippines and sings in their local language. In Manila, Hannah meets them and learns why spreading Filipino culture is so important to them, and what sets them apart.
We’re also joined by Camille Elemia, a Manila-based journalist, who explains P-pop’s origins and popularity. Plus, YouTuber Sylvia Kim tells us how P-pop compares to K-pop, and if it’s taking off in Korea.
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2024.04.09 11:41 asiankpopfan im sorry but. i just dont see alamat’s potential.

this is the only group na i find hindi aesthetically pleasing, non bias material, synchronicity lvl 0, overall aesthetic ng concept -100.
parang super rushed and hindi genuine yung advocacy nila for filipino culture.. parang yun lang yung assignment na binigay sakanila.
halatang wala silang media training pag interviews.
they will survive probably but sana iimprove lahat nila lahat kase andaming umaasa sa alamat na sususnod sa yapak ng bini.
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2024.04.07 01:51 OmeletteMcMuffin things about p-pop idols that i hope will stay the same

1) the creative freedom they have. among other examples, off the top of my head:
it's nice to see p-pop idols be granted the opportunity to write and even produce their own music, even early into their career and at their age. i've noticed that most (most!!! not all; i know there are exceptions like soyeon from gidle) k-pop idols can't do that until they're like,,, in their 30s and officially soloists.
2) their friendliness towards the lgbtq+ community. examples:
i hope p-pop idols can continue to freely and openly support the lgbtq+ community, without needing to tiptoe around it or anything like that.
3) the diversity of beauty. to be absolutely clear, yes, p-pop still has problems when it comes to this, like colorism (and whitewashing) and favoritism towards euro/east asian-looking features. i can't name a p-pop idol who isn't super fit or thin either.
however, compared to other idol industries, p-pop idols' beauty is still kind of diverse. moreno and morena idols exist and are beloved (though sadly they get whitewashed a lot but still!!! they're there). there's still some variations in facial features; p-pop idols are still considered attractive even if they have not-so-matangos noses, or if they have a certain face shape, etc. etc.
i hope that the beauty among p-pop idols will only become more and more diverse. filipinos' tolerance for diversity is a strength, not a weakness. i hope our idols' beauty will not become even more westernized or east asian-ized in upcoming years. (there's NOTHING wrong with idols who have eurasian features or east asian-looking features, but i hope there's room for idols who have more tan skin and native filipino features)
4) the ages. riize debuted last year with members aged 19-22 (at the time). some knetz asked if they were "too old" to debut. the members were 19 to 22. but i guess that's the kind of thing that happens when debuting high school freshmen becomes the norm.
it's good that the p-pop industry and community seem to have a less weird mindset regarding this. idols aged 21+ can still debut with no issue. ofc a 21-year-old is still very young and can debut. (tbh, it's also better than some 13-year-old debuting bc... being an idol is work. it's a job.)
5) the vocals. p-pop has a really high standard for singing. i like that the groups also seem to have competent and consistent vocal training, so even not-so-good idols improve steadily and quickly.
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2024.03.10 15:11 OmeletteMcMuffin Most representative song/MV for each P-Pop group (in your opinion)?

Example: for me, "Dagundong" represents ALAMAT the most. I actually didn't like "Dagundong" that much at first. I'm always partial to their multilingual songs, always happier when their comebacks are not just in Tagalog/"Filipino". I prefer their songs with other Philippine languages such as Cebuano, Ilocano, and so forth. My fave ALAMAT songs are the multilingual ones like "Hala" and "Day and Night"
And their MVs tend to be great in quality, so I wouldn't say that "Dagundong" MV stands out particularly in terms of quality. Their MVs are all nice.
However, I realized lately that "Dagundong" represents the group the most. I think, more than anything, "Dagundong" works best as a performance piece. It's theater-ish, really. Especially with how the members seem to be communicating with EACH OTHER in the verses. They're telling a story. It's very theater, very narrative. That's why I think this song/MV represents ALAMAT the best, even if it's not my favorite.
ALAMAT has always been a more theatrical, dramatic, high-concept pop group compared to other P-Pop groups. No doubt because of the creative direction the group's always had. Their creative director is an actual film director, after all.
Anyway, what are the most representative songs/MVs for other groups, in your opinion?
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2024.03.06 16:38 EcstaticLake Mga maikling kwento, dula, o nobela na nakasulat o mahusay na naka-translate sa Tagalog

Puro Ingles na lang ang binabasa ko ngayong nasa kolehiyo na ako kasi hindi na required magbasa ng Florante at Laura o mga sulat ni Rizal o kaya ay Ibong Adarna. Hindi ko alam kung saan magsisimula. May mga natatandaan ako noon, tulad ng "Sa Pula, Sa Puti". At yung isang kwento tungkol sa isang babaeng nag-cheat sa asawa nya, kasama yung kaibigan ng asawa nya, tas sa huli ay nilason nung asawa yung lalaking kaibigan nya habang alam nung babae at nagmamakaawa (di ko matandaan kung nakasulat sa ingles ito o nakasulat sa Tagalog pero Pinoy ang may likha at parang script sya ng isang dula, kung may nakakaalam ng pamagat, paki-comment na lang po). Syempre marami rin akong natatandaan na mga kwentong alamat. Nabasa ko rin MacArthur ni Bob Ong at ilang mga Kikomachine komiks ng ate ko. Nabasa ko rin ang The Woman who Had Two Navels noong 13 ako, para akong nagka- fever dream pero nagustuhan ko sya ng sobra. Kaso Ay nakasulat naman sa Ingles. Gusto ko yung ganun, surreal o kung may alam kayo na-contemporary filipino writer na nagsusulat ng magical realism. Comment na lang kayo kung ano mga marerekomenda nyong mga (huwag naman po yung pang-elementary reading o galing wattpad na cliche romance).
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2024.02.25 08:07 Shoddy-Light355 Using KVA on PPOP idols (remove this 40 characters please)

Random question lang dumaan Kasi yung KVA analysis ng mga kpop idol sa fyp ko and I noticed na even though Korean based Siya may mga Filipino artist na ginagamit yung ibang cc sa tiktok like regine, Sarah and Julie Ann using KVA so I wonder what's SB19, BINI, KAIA, ALAMAT and BGYO's vocal tier and supported range?
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2024.02.20 15:06 OmeletteMcMuffin P-Pop, morena/moreno idols, and colorism

P-Pop, morena/moreno idols, and colorism
Hi. So I thought this would be interesting to discuss.
I think it's fair to say that skin color is treated differently, but not entirely differently, from K-Pop. These are the core observations I have regarding skin color in P-Pop:
  • The average idol is a fair bit darker than the average K-Pop idol. An idol who would probably be considered "dark" or "too Southeast Asian-looking" in K-Pop would likely considered light-skinned in P-Pop.
  • Moreno and morena idols do get appreciated.
  • Fair skin is still favored in P-Pop, regardless.
  • P-Pop idols get whitewashed a lot, either by official photoshoots or their own selfies. There is still a huge pressure to conform to colorist beauty standards.
An example of this is BINI. You can clearly see in unwhitewashed pics that the girls do have different skin tones:
https://preview.redd.it/dav8zdp8yqjc1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f9548f6a0c40492334b8084dc09e882894f62af
Gwen has also acknowledged that she is morena before, but yeah, a lot of their official pics and stuff make them all look the same shade (pale/very fair).
One of the saddest moments for me as a Bloom was when Aiah got tanned from vacationing under the sun, and she was actually apologizing and felt upset about it on her Kumu Live. She explained din that manman used to tell them not to go out in the sun so they don't get darker back in trainee days. I'm glad that Blooms told her there's nothing wrong with getting tanned and that she later said that it's okay to get tanned because brown beauty is very Filipino.
It's very clear to me that the industry favors very fair skin, but I'm glad there are fans who tell them that there's nothing wrong with being tanned or brown. I really love seeing tanned and brown skin on P-Pop idols. Who are your favorite morena and moreno P-Pop idols? For me of course I really love Gwen and Colet's skin tones, and ALAMAT Mo, Tomas, and Taneo's too.
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2024.01.25 12:26 Crisis_And_Throwaway The DO's and DONT's of Promoting the Ppop Group you stan

After a sour experience I've had from a fan that acted like an elitist for stanning the group that they stan, I think it's time for the people in this community to learn the Do's and Dont's in promoting Ppop/OPM/Filipino groups. If you want more context, you can just go and check my comment history.
DO's
  1. Share the group's music to people you know who you think would enjoy their sound. I remember letting my friend listen to BINI's "Pantropiko" and ALAMAT's "Maharani" and a few days later, I saw her listening to BINI and ALAMAT's full albums on Spotify. I didn't even force them, I just went "Hey, I think you'd like this song," and guess what? They did.
  2. If the group has music videos, share them with people you know who you think/know will be interested. Back to ALAMAT's "Maharani", I showed the MV to some of my friends whom I know were avid readers of Romance Novels and guess what? They loved it. I caught them a few times watching and sharing the MV to others who had similar tastes to them.
  3. If they were nominated in awards, then vote for them and maybe even spread the word to your personal accounts. I'm not saying perform mass voting, please don't think about your health. I'm just saying, even if the people who saw your post won't vote for them, there's a very real possibility that they might be curious and look up the group.
  4. Find spaces that support the group(s) you're supporting. I remember in the past when I was a part of several SB19 groups. I stopped at some point due to life getting in the way, but being inside the group created an atmosphere of us wanting to show other people what kind of musicians and performers they are. And it was honestly so much fun, just reading the creative things A'TIN have written, drawn etc. in the group was exhilarating and motivated me to help the group grow.
  5. If you can, then create content about them. SB19's success was massive and I don't doubt that they would continue growing, but youtubers such as Ahnrahel, Fanboi_Updates and another YouTuber whose name I can't search helped grow their fandom by making their contents more digestible and easier to access.
  6. Watch, like, comment, and interact with their content. Commenting and reacting genuinely boosts their chances for the algorithm to show their content in front of people's Social Media feeds, and so even commenting a simple period can be enough to boost engagement.
And now for the DONT's
  1. Don't act like you're holier than us just because you stan a group you deem is "Worthier" than other groups. Do you guys remember the "Stan LOONA" trend that their fandom decided to do? I was a victim of someone quite literally bashing the group I supported while uplifting LOONA and calling me stupid for not stanning them. The only time I ever listened to any of their songs was when they already disbanded, and it was mostly out of curiosity. The negative energy did NOT make me want to stan them, it repulsed me to them in fact.
  2. Don't drag other groups down to uplift the group you stan. Like, what is the point? Their achievements and the achievements of other groups can freely coexist with each other.
  3. Can you not undermine the success, hardships, and accomplishments other groups have achieved just because YOU believe that those accomplishments are nothing compared to what your favorite group has done? Sweetie, SB19 became the first Filipino act to ever be a part of the Billboard rankings, BINI's music has trended several times not just in Spotify but also in YouTube, ALAMAT (though I won't pretend like their content hasn't faced criticisms) show diverse musicality and incorporates Filipino culture in their music. How entitled and elitist do you have to be to act like all of that are beneath whatever your favorite group's have achieved?
  4. Don't act like the people who don't support your favorite groups are "people who don't know any better", "people who have awful taste", "people who obviously hate them". Like we're sorry for not being interested? We're sorry for not liking their songs? I don't see why you have to act like every single person on this community who doesn't stan them are bad people. 9 times out of them, they just don't know your favorite groups.
  5. Stop using the "they started with nothing and they're trying to be famous so you should support them or else it means you just have awful taste and music and probably hate them!!!" excuse. SB19 started with nothing too. Do you think that ShowBT entertainment were rich when they started? Go Up is literally a simple music video filmed in one building. Born to Win was recorded in one day and in one location. Kbye was filmed inside a warehouse for god's sake, your favorite groups aren't the only ones who had to struggle to get to where they are now.
Seriously, if you want to promote your favorite groups then why don't you start with being a decent person and capitalizing on their personalities? If Blooms can make BINI trend on twitter every other week by making edits, then maybe JUST maybe you can also spread the word of your groups by sharing them on your social media platforms, showing their music to other people, and interacting with their content.
I know I obviously missed a lot so feel free to comment more. And if you had sour experiences with other fans who act like they're "holier than thou" for stanning the group that they stan, share them below. I'd love to read them.
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2024.01.22 00:36 Missus_lagi Is this PPOP? Your thoughts on Bebot and The APL Song

Is this PPOP? Your thoughts on Bebot and The APL Song
I’m missing BEP so I listened to their music once again and so it made me think if BEBOT and THE APL SONG are considered to be PPOP? 90% of lyrics are in Filipino. The APL Song sounds like what Alamat would sing nowadays 😅
What do you think? ☺️
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