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2024.04.05 10:05 New-mama-1117 Simple tongue tie procedure led to hospitalization of our newborn. Can I sue for malpractice on behalf of my child?

We took our two month old to get a simple procedure to have their tongue tie released, a frenectomy. When we arrived to the doctor’s office, they explained that our baby would not require any anesthesia as they assured us that the procedure caused little to no pain and that we would be out of there in no time. The doctor explained the procedure, went over the tools that they were going to use and showed us the scissors (don’t know the official name of the tool) she would use to cut the tongue tie. She pointed out that the tip was round on the scissors so that they wouldn’t accidentally poke anything else and hurt our baby. The doctor then proceeded with the procedure and as soon as the doctor snipped the tie, our baby let out the scariest scream and cried uncontrollably. Our baby was clearly in pain and so much blood was gushing out. So much so, that the blood was going up my baby’s nose and into their eyes. The doctor told me to breastfeed our baby because that would stop the bleeding. The bleeding slowed down a lot, but our baby was still oozing a little bit of blood by the time we left the doctor’s office. Before we left, we checked with the doctor about the small amount of blood that our baby was still spitting out, and they said that that was normal (I later realized that the doctor stated that the bleeding had completely stopped when we left on their notes which wasn’t true). The bleeding was still happening and later that night, I woke up to the sound of my baby choking on an inch wide blood clot and their whole chest and neck was covered in their own blood. We rushed our baby to the hospital after speaking to a nurse over the phone. There at the emergency room, it took the doctors several hours to stop the bleeding and our baby was on the verge of needing a blood transfusion from how much blood they lost. At the emergency room, a head and neck doctor had explained that the doctor who performed the frenectomy had cut too deep and that they had cut into her muscle which was the reason for the amount of bleeding. They said they had never seen anything like that before related to a frenectomy. The doctor who performed the frenectomy called me later that day while we were still at the hospital being monitored, and because I wanted to know why this happened, I asked them if they could clearly identify the tongue tie from the muscle, and she said “yes.” She knew that she had cut into our baby’s muscle and failed to mention anything to us. She could’ve sent us to the hospital then to get the wound properly closed, but instead sent us home telling us that the bleeding was normal and my baby was slowly losing so much blood. She apologized for what she did and said she’d call back to check on our baby and never got a call from her again. We are so livid that a simple procedure nearly cost our baby their life. Our baby is now anemic and has a heart murmur from the blood loss that the doctors are hopeful that will go away with time. Everyone keeps telling us to sue Kaiser for negligence and malpractice. Can we sue? Is this something that we should even pursue? I want the doctor that did this to be held responsible.
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2024.04.01 20:15 books356 Gum Graft Options

Hello! 23F here- I received two referrals for periodontists from my general dentist's office because they noticed some slight gum recession. I went to both doctors since it was covered by insurance and also to receive a second opinion. Based on their conclusions, it is clear that I need a gum graft surgery, but the first doctor is recommending a frenectomy prior to the gum graft due to the make up of my mouth, as well as grafts on all four of my bottom front teeth, and total out of pocket cost is close to 4k (including all surgeries and IV sedation- no options for different kinds).
The second clinic did not say anything whatsoever about a frenectomy and is only recommending gum grafts on three of the bottom lower teeth (mentioned that he did see some recession on the fourth but fixing the three should help the fourth tooth). They also provided options for IV sedation, oral sedation, and inhaled sedation (laughing gas)- all having different costs that would be added on top of the out of pocket. The approximate total out of pocket cost for this clinic is ~$2200.
Both clinics have good reviews and I am assuming are of similar caliber since they were both referrals, so I was wondering if anyone thinks IV sedation is absolutely a must for gum grafting and also, if I should go with the cheaper option? (Obviously leaning toward that one, but if the frenectomy is necessary, I am concerned that there may be complications if I skip that and just do the gum graft). Happy to provide more info if needed. TIA!
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2024.02.28 12:09 Old_Performer6861 Lingual Frenectomy and TMJ Therapy

Any Idea how much is the cost of the treatment for TMJ in Manila today? Lingual Frenectomy and TMJ Therapy phase 1
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2024.02.22 11:22 Old_Performer6861 Lingual Frenectomy and TMJ Therapy

Any Idea how much is the cost of the treatment for TMJ in Manila today? Lingual Frenectomy and TMJ Therapy phase 1
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2024.01.27 00:39 yellowpoof10 Allograft Gum Grafting Surgery (Canada)

Allograft Gum Grafting Surgery (Canada)
Image order:
Invisalign Before and After.
Sets: Before Surgery, After Surgery, Day 3 Post-Op
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share my experience. When I found out I needed this surgery, I did lots of research but found very little information or experiences, particularly with alloderm/ donor tissue. Feel free to correct me if any of the facts I hold true are incorrect.
I was afraid of using my own tissue from the roof of my mouth. Primarily because when I burn the roof of my mouth I know I am miserable for days! I couldn’t imagine having an entire strip of skin removed. Knowing it takes longer than the actual surgery to heal was also a huge negative to me. I’ve heard it takes about 2-3 months for the roof. You can only do 3-4 teeth at once, but with alloderm, you can do as many as you need or can stand in one session. Lastly, it would be another site to heal.
About me:
I’ve had gum recession since I was in my early 20s. I’m 32. Two years ago I had an appointment with a gum specialist (after my dentist pushed for it). Turns out I had a lot of factors working against me that would cause the recession again in the future. At that time, I would’ve required 5-6 teeth. I decided to do everything I could on my end prior to the gum grafting surgery to have a successful surgery. I have recently started on a health improvement journey. My naturopath recommended I take 2000mg of Vitamin C to help the healing.
My Dental Plan (1-3)
Step 1:
I started with removing my wisdom teeth (all 4 at once). I was awake for it. I had been too scared to do it in my early teens and wish I had back then.
Step 2:
A few months later I started on Invisalign. I was on it for a year and 4 months. Really happy with the results. But as I was warned, the gum recession would be worse after Invisalign.
I now require 12 teeth. And the ones that already had recession are so much worse. I have posted images.
Step 3:
Gum Grafting. Although I was told that using my own tissue would be the gold standard with the best results, I decided to use alloderm or donor tissue. My surgeon said she uses something called Zimmerderm because you don’t have to worry about allergies. (Alloderm is a term used freely to refer to donor tissue but it is actually a brand name). For those that don’t know, it is harvested from bodies donated to science. They have been screened and sanitized. In my mind, I have convinced myself that it has been so processed it is basically plastic! The reason for my choice is from what I listed above and because of the number of teeth I’d need now. I can’t imagine how many sessions I’d need. I want to get this all over and done with as soon as possible. I also don’t trust that the regenerated tissue from my palate would be as good as the first time around. The third option was tissue from a pig.
Surgery Day
I had my surgery earlier this week (Jan 23, 2024). Due to the number of teeth I needed, I have to do the right side first and the left side another time.
There was so much anticipation. I cried, I stressed, it would keep me up at night. I was petrified and had been dreading it for 2-3 years.
Once I got there, the surgeon was so kind. I asked if it would be a good idea to take anything before and she said to take 3 Advils (total of 600mg), so I did. I also brought my travel blanket with me to keep warm and to avoid shock. I was a bit cold even with the blanket so I am really happy I brought it with me.
She told me she would take some X-rays and that she would not start until I was frozen and she had my permission.
She let me know that I was the boss. If I needed anything all I had to do was raise my arm and she’d stop everything immediately. She went over what the procedure would be again and I had to sign a waiver.
She told me everything she was doing every step of the way. First, she asked me to close my eyes and wiggle my hands and toes while she froze me. This really helped reduce the pain from the needle. She then did a freezing check to make sure I couldn’t feel anything. Then she told me she would give my teeth a cleaning. Then she would ask for my consent to start on the procedure.
I would feel a lot of pressure when she would lift my gums. Followed by scrapping. Then the tissue would go in and she’d be sewing for a long time! I’m not sure what it was because after that she would say she would start with the stitches. I thought they were done already!
I also needed a frenectomy. This is the little piece of skin that connects your lip to your gums. It is found under your tongue as well. They just pulled at my lower lip and snipped it.
Then she moved on to the other areas and would ask for my consent each time. I really appreciated her because she kept my mind off everything by chatting with the dental assistant. She would also give positive affirmations like “perfect, this looks great”, “you’re doing great!”, “I have nothing exciting to tell you, everything is going as planned.”
I did 8 teeth in one sitting. This took 2.5 hours. This time also included the X-rays she took prior. The bottom two middle teeth took the longest to do, this is because my recession was very, very low and the gums were really thin.
I asked her to freeze me again before I left to buy myself a little more time.
She gave me an instruction sheet to follow. But her biggest advice, which she iterated twice, was to not check on it. Pulling your lip away will pull the graft from your tooth and away from the blood supply. She said things heal best when they are left alone.
The cost on average per tooth is $1,300 CAD.
Once I left, we went over to Shoppers Drug Mart to dispense the antibiotics, a mouthwash, and extra strength Motrin (600mg). The wait was 45 minutes so we decided to go to I.D.A pharmacy instead. They did it in 5 minutes.
Once I got home there was quite a bit of blood. My biggest issue is that I can’t swallow pills on a good day. With surgery it was even harder. I actually choked on the water! I took the Motrin and the antibiotics. I went straight to bed and watched TV. I also took a nap.
I iced it all day. I found using a face mask would hold the ice in place. I did not talk all day, although at night when I was half asleep and had to take my pills, I did talk to my fiancé by accident.
I had a protein powder drink for breakfast. I prepared by buying some Freshouse juices, most of nut milks that I find to be tasty and filling. I had one for lunch and a sweeter one as a late snack. I bought some soups from Nature’s Emporium which I had for dinner. I also bought some jello and pudding which I have not had yet.
You can’t drink from a straw or spit or chew. I found using a spoon was hard too.
I have been alternating every 2-3 hours with Motrin (600 mg) and then Tylenol (500mg) on the first day.
The antibiotics are needed 3 times a day and the mouthwash I was told to use it that first night and then morning and night (but can’t eat an hour after using it).
Of course, always follow the instructions given by your specialist. This is to give you an idea of what you might be prescribed. (She also prescribed Tylenol 3 but I decided not to get it).
The pain has been manageable. The ice really helps too. I find if you keep on a regular pain relief schedule, you can beat the pain before it starts up again.
I slept with my head raised, using a neck pillow helped keep my head in place.
I was a bit nervous to put in my Invisalign night tray retainers. I figured I could skip one night since I haven’t talked or chewed, hopefully they haven’t shifted.
Day 2
I woke up this morning with no pain. I only feel pain if I move my jaw or lips or mouth. I also have a bit of swelling which is normal. I only taste blood today when it comes from the front 2 teeth. I was too scared to pop in my Invisalign night time retainers so I didn’t do it. I was able to sleep more.
Day 3
The swelling is about the same. I held my chin down but slightly moved my lip to see how everything was looking. They look purple and no foul odor which is a good sign I believe. Had a small white patch that the surgeon said was okay (either gunk or a bit of the tissue popping through). I cut down my Invisalign night retainers so they wouldn’t go anywhere near my gums. They went in a bit tight but it was okay.
Day 4
Slightly less swelling in my face. Can open my mouth a bit more to talk a little bit and eat with a spoon. The areas feel sore and my face is a bit numb but I think it’s normal.
I am feeling positive and quite happy with the post-op images. I hope they heal well. I hope the risk I took in using donor tissue pays off. I have added my post-op images as well.
I hope this post gives everyone else more information to make a confident decision with their tissue choice.
My stitches should be removed next Wednesday (Jan 31, 2024). I will update with images.
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2024.01.05 19:07 MozzerellaStix Dentist offering free frenectomy

Dentist offering free frenectomy
Hey all, my [28M] dentist called me and said they’re running a class and want to use me as a patient for a frenectomy (with a laser). This will be zero cost to me.
I’ve done a bit of frantic googling as far as recovery, and it seems like it varies wildly person to person. Some had a grueling recovery and some it seems were back to normal in a few days.
To be honest, the only affect this has in my day to day is during intimate time with my wife. I don’t have any issues with speech and no TMJ aside from the occasional jaw clicking. Obviously, my tongue tie is pretty obvious, provided it isn’t a major inconvenience on my life, just wondering if it will be worth the recovery or if anyone has first hand experience with recovering from this procedure as an adult. I’m a bit of a weenie when it comes to medical procedures.
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2023.08.31 02:36 Routine-Register-575 Crown prep caused atypical TN

This is long and I am sorry.
So let's preface all of this by saying the following: I have severe dental phobia from decades of unpleasant dental, orthodontic and periodontic procedures and genetic gum recession and crappy teeth in general. (Braces from 10 years old to 14 years old - extremely painful palate bar, gums cut to attach braces to teeth that hadn't come down yet, etc- over a dozen fillings, 2 crowns, 4 wisdom teeth reoved, frenectomy) I also suffer from depression and anxiety.
I had a filling break on tooth 14 so I went in to see a dentist. He said I need a crown because that tooth had too big of a filling to replace. Due to the above issues, I asked to just have the tooth pulled. He refused. I balked at the crown because all I had was minimal weird feeling in that tooth. A dear friend of mine who is a dental assistant convinced me that a tooth removal wasn't in my best interests so after researching sedation dentistry and coming up empty handed locally (rural Michigan) and feeling sticker shock from the cost in Appleton, wi, Milwaukee WI and Chicago, il offices that do perform them ($6000+ for one tooth), I gave up and went local.
I self medicated with anti anxiety meds according to one protocol of a sedation dentistry office in Wisconsin and braced myself. When I was in the chair, the dentist said I actually needed a crown on the tooth next to the one with the broken filling too. I burst into tears and asked him to do both right then and there because I was NOT coming back to do another. He agreed. $3000 later the prep on both teeth was done.
A couple days later, the pain started. It was... Ghastly. The left side of my face was pulsing in pain from my upper left teeth, left sinus, left eye, left ear and down along my left mandible along the tooth line. I was crying in agony in bed. I started heavily medicating with ibuprofen and it seemed to help. But days passed and I had no improvement.
Finally I called the dentist and said I thought I had an infection. He got me right in, took X-rays, did an exam and found nothing wrong. He recommended I swish with salt water and take ibuprofen. I said I was already taking 800mg of ibuprofen every 5-6 hours. He wouldn't prescribe anything else. I called my PCP and she prescribed ketorolac, a stronger NSAID than ibuprofen. The days went on and the pain did not stop. I started alternating in the leftover tramadol from my frenectomy.
Fast forward to almost two weeks post crown prep. Crowns have come in but first available appt wasn't til a week later. I begged for a root canal on both teeth they prepped. Dentist said no. Meanwhile I'm medicating and medicating and crying and crying. I'm barely functional at this point. I almost passed out while driving my car twice. My husband is calling dentists like crazy trying to find a sedation dentist for me.
Finally I get in a day earlier than my scheduled perm crown appt due to my husband being so mad at the ignoring of my pain that he called our dentist again for me. The dentist says maybe I'm reacting to the material the temp crowns are made of. He put my real crowns in with temp cement so he can recheck in a week. However, it's worth noting that I requested numbing before I'd let him even touch my teeth. As soon as the pre-injection numbing gel went on my gums, the cold of it made my pain blow up. I was crying and trembling in the chair, gripping my husband's hand until it hurt there too and I was writhing. Finally once he put the injection in it stopped. When the injection wore off the pain was just as bad as when the gel went on and I was in the fetal position in the car weeping and shaking until my last tramadol pill took effect. Thank God for that pill.
The dentist agreed to refill the ketorolac but he couldn't refill the tramadol. My PCP said she couldn't refill my tramadol unless I'm seen in person because it's an opiate.
Though it's not as extreme as the day my perm crown went in, the pain HAS NOT DECREASED from how it was before and tomorrow will be 3 weeks. I'm having suicidal intrusive thoughts at this point and crying every day. I'm having rebound pain from the NSAIDS and Tylenol despite trying to alternate and not take too much. My stomach has been hurting too. I don't drink, I don't have caffeine, I avoid acidic foods but the pain in my stomach is steady. I have my Dr appt tomorrow to get opiate pain meds and I've written down everything I can possibly think of- timeline of events, descriptions of pain, etc.
A huge concern of mine is that I'm on Wellbutrin for my depression, a known seizure threshold reducer. It's also the first antidepressant ive been on that doesn't make me gain weight and doesnt make me feel like a zombie. Traditional TN treatments involve tricyclic antidepressants which also can cause seizures. So will I have a seizure on this med if it mixes with my wellbutrin? I'm terrified of that. I'm also terrified that my quality of life has been ruined by a dental procedure I never wanted.
Is there anyone who has had this kind of situation and found relief? Please tell me there's relief somehow. This isn't type 1 that has a physical cause like blood vessels pressing on the nerve. I think whatever the dentist did has caused some irreversible stimulation of my trigeminal nerve system and it's just freaking out 24/7. I'm exhausted.
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2023.08.04 22:58 The_infamous_petrus 3 months progress

3 months progress
First pic was taken just before I got my braces on (28th of April). Second one was taken on the 14th of July and the third one today.
2 weeks after getting my braces on, I have had multiple surgeries at once: 3 wisdom teeth removal, a frenectomy so that my upper lip could lift higher thus showing more teeth when I smile, and lastly a corticotomy, which is a fairly rare technique allowing to cut down the treatment time nearly by half (I'm supposed to have roughly 10 months of treatement left whereas it would have taken 2 years in total without the surgery). It consist in small incinsions in the bone between the teeth which are supposed to allow the teeth to move faster and settle in their final position better. The surgery added no cost to my treatment since I wanted to get my wisdom teeth removed anyway and it's basicaly free in my country (France) if you have a decent health insurance.
So far I am pretty happy with the progress, and given what I went through with my whole mouth butchered after getting the braces on, I am finding only having braces and elastics to be veeery easy lol.
Feel free to ask me if you are curious about what my ortho calls "corticotomy accelerated treatment", and I will try my best to answer!
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2023.02.24 08:59 No-Performance627 TMD caused by dentist from hell (story)

I posted this experience in the Bangkok community and AskDentists community, but I thought it might be good to post it here too, in order to warn people about the dangers of dental tourism and how seemingly simple dental procedures can cause TMD.
I went to a dentist in Bangkok half a year ago to get porcelain veneers, which was something that I had wanted to do for a long time, and I guess I was influenced by the marketing material I read from dental clinics online. I had healthy teeth but some cosmetic issues bothering me.
It always mentioned that a super tiny amount of enamel is removed on the front when getting veneers, with pictures of veneers being attached to teeth akin to fake nails, and of course amazing before/after pictures. I thought nothing could go wrong.
I had looked around some, comparing different dental hospitals and larger clinics, but they always made it so complicated to get an appointment. I found a dentist with near-perfect reviews (in retrospect I believe they were fake reviews).
She quoted me by email 12 000 baht for each porcelain veneer, and it was cheaper than most other options, but when I came to see her she said it will cost 15 000 baht and she said that she wanted me to be happy with the result and have the best kind of veneers.
I asked her what kind of laboratory make the veneers, and what brand they are? But she only told me that the veneers are "very good". It felt a bit odd, but she seemed very keen to get started, and I had already spent a long time looking for dentists and compared different options.
Once I had agreed to the procedure, she was very pushy about me paying her in advance, but I wanted to pay her for each phase. Almost like threatening me, she would nag me to pay her everything. She did not want card payment, and added a 5% fee then, claiming it is what the bank charges her for card payments. I ended up paying her in cash and she did not give me a receipt.
The temporary composite veneers were good-looking, and I felt no discomfort. She received the rest of the money for the porcelain veneers. Then she shaved my teeth, and in particular my two upper front teeth ended up very small. I felt discomfort there after she put on the veneers. It felt like there was tightness and pressure.
When she had put on the veneers, she said I need to pay her 35 000 baht for a mouthguard, and I knew they costed around 5000 baht elsewhere. She was very insistent, and without the payment, she made it quite clear that she would not finish the job. I had no choice but to pay her.
Because of the discomfort, she did some adjustments, but the discomfort did not go away. I started to get a pain in my natural teeth, clicking sound in the jaw, and my upper front teeth kept moving and creating malocclusion. She insisted everything was fine, and that she will not do anything more.
When I left Thailand, I went to a prosthodontist who examined me, and even though he said it is very hard to see problems with veneers without a previous dental scan, or removing the veneers; he did say that he believes there are many different problems with the veneers.
I messaged the dentist in Thailand, but she denied anything could possibly be wrong. Soon after I developed symptoms of temporomandibular joint dysfunction (TMD), and I had many symptoms. I knew something was wrong, and I went to a dentist right away who diagnosed it as TMD.
The pain and range of symptoms increased, and different dentists I saw had different theories. I contacted her, thinking she might know what is wrong, and I told her I think the veneers on the upper front teeth are too tight. She agreed it could be the issue.
Even so, she did not admit it caused the TMD, but rather made it sound like a cosmetic issue and that I could come back to her and she would fix it free of charge, saying even though she did nothing wrong she want me to be happy with the look of the veneers.
I went to her, and she made small gaps in the veneers in the upper front teeth, which seemed to release a lot of tightness, but I told her I still feel pressure. She said that she would replace the veneers free of charge, and I came to her and she hastily and brutally removed the veneers.
The composite was put on very sloppily, which she said herself, and claimed it was intentional because she might "play around" with the composite to see how I feel. Then she said that I should come back in a few hours, and that another dentist will take a look to make sure everything is good.
She is the owner of the clinic, and the only dentist working there, so I thought it odd, but I believed she might just be cautious this time, and wanting a second opinion to avoid any more mistakes. When I came back there were medicines in a bag prepared. I thought it was for another patient.
When she saw I had arrived, she disappeared, and her assistant told me that I can see the other dentist. She just looked for a second, said that she saw a "problem", and asked me if I want her to fix it? I thought she meant that I might have some food stuck in-between my teeth or something like that.
Then she injected me with anaesthetic, and cut me under the upper lip. The whole procedure took a few seconds. I did not know what had been done, and because of the anaesthetic I did not feel any pain. Her assistant told me right after to go wait in the waiting room.
Immediately the owner of the clinic showed up, and told me that I need to pay 25 000 baht for the "surgery". She said that she will replace the veneers for free, even though nothing was wrong with them according to her, and she claimed to have done nothing wrong; however, I must pay her for the work of the other dentist. That other dentist was nowhere to be seen.
She was very rude and left me with her assistant, and I was confused and in shock. I only had half the sum she demanded on hand, and I told her assistant. Her assistant went away and came back, and said that I can pay the rest later. I can add that her "assistant" was her daughter.
After I left, I started to feel very painful as the anaesthetic wore off, and I realized the labial frenum had been cut. There was a lot of bleeding in the evening. It has been a week now, and I did not hear from her. She had needlessly mutilated me to extort me for money to replace the veneers.
And I read that the procedure performed, which only took a few seconds, is called frenectomy and nowhere does it cost 25 000 baht. I had trouble sleeping all week, and feeling anxious. I came to her thinking she genuinely wanted to help. The TMD already give me constant pain.
I know I do not want to go back to her, and I do not believe there is any way she can be held responsible for her actions; meaning my only choice is to go somewhere else to have the veneers replaced, deal with the trauma, and continue treatment for the TMD that she caused.
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2023.02.23 16:35 No-Performance627 The dentist from hell (dental tourism)

I posted this experience in the Bangkok community, but I thought it might be good to post it here too, in order to warn people about the dangers of dental tourism.
I went to a dentist in Bangkok half a year ago to get porcelain veneers, which was something that I had wanted to do for a long time, and I guess I was influenced by the marketing material I read from dental clinics online. I had healthy teeth but some cosmetic issues bothering me.
It always mentioned that a super tiny amount of enamel is removed on the front when getting veneers, with pictures of veneers being attached to teeth akin to fake nails, and of course amazing before/after pictures. I thought nothing could go wrong.
I had looked around some, comparing different dental hospitals and larger clinics, but they always made it so complicated to get an appointment. I found a dentist with near-perfect reviews (in retrospect I believe they were fake reviews).
She quoted me by email 12 000 baht for each porcelain veneer, and it was cheaper than most other options, but when I came to see her she said it will cost 15 000 baht and she said that she wanted me to be happy with the result and have the best kind of veneers.
I asked her what kind of laboratory make the veneers, and what brand they are? But she only told me that the veneers are "very good". It felt a bit odd, but she seemed very keen to get started, and I had already spent a long time looking for dentists and compared different options.
Once I had agreed to the procedure, she was very pushy about me paying her in advance, but I wanted to pay her for each phase. Almost like threatening me, she would nag me to pay her everything. She did not want card payment, and added a 5% fee then, claiming it is what the bank charges her for card payments. I ended up paying her in cash and she did not give me a receipt.
The temporary composite veneers were good-looking, and I felt no discomfort. She received the rest of the money for the porcelain veneers. Then she shaved my teeth, and in particular my two upper front teeth ended up very small. I felt discomfort there after she put on the veneers. It felt like there was tightness and pressure.
When she had put on the veneers, she said I need to pay her 35 000 baht for a mouthguard, and I knew they costed around 5000 baht elsewhere. She was very insistent, and without the payment, she made it quite clear that she would not finish the job. I had no choice but to pay her.
Because of the discomfort, she did some adjustments, but the discomfort did not go away. I started to get a pain in my natural teeth, clicking sound in the jaw, and my upper front teeth kept moving and creating malocclusion. She insisted everything was fine, and that she will not do anything more.
When I left Thailand, I went to a prosthodontist who examined me, and even though he said it is very hard to see problems with veneers without a previous dental scan, or removing the veneers; he did say that he believes there are many different problems with the veneers.
I messaged the dentist in Thailand, but she denied anything could possibly be wrong. Soon after I developed symptoms of temporomandibular joint dysfunction (TMD), and I had many symptoms. I knew something was wrong, and I went to a dentist right away who diagnosed it as TMD.
The pain and range of symptoms increased, and different dentists I saw had different theories. I contacted her, thinking she might know what is wrong, and I told her I think the veneers on the upper front teeth are too tight. She agreed it could be the issue.
Even so, she did not admit it caused the TMD, but rather made it sound like a cosmetic issue and that I could come back to her and she would fix it free of charge, saying even though she did nothing wrong she want me to be happy with the look of the veneers.
I went to her, and she made small gaps in the veneers in the upper front teeth, which seemed to release a lot of tightness, but I told her I still feel pressure. She said that she would replace the veneers free of charge, and I came to her and she hastily and brutally removed the veneers.
The composite was put on very sloppily, which she said herself, and claimed it was intentional because she might "play around" with the composite to see how I feel. Then she said that I should come back in a few hours, and that another dentist will take a look to make sure everything is good.
She is the owner of the clinic, and the only dentist working there, so I thought it odd, but I believed she might just be cautious this time, and wanting a second opinion to avoid any more mistakes. When I came back there were medicines in a bag prepared. I thought it was for another patient.
When she saw I had arrived, she disappeared, and her assistant told me that I can see the other dentist. She just looked for a second, said that she saw a "problem", and asked me if I want her to fix it? I thought she meant that I might have some food stuck in-between my teeth or something like that.
Then she injected me with anaesthetic, and cut me under the upper lip. The whole procedure took a few seconds. I did not know what had been done, and because of the anaesthetic I did not feel any pain. Her assistant told me right after to go wait in the waiting room.
Immediately the owner of the clinic showed up, and told me that I need to pay 25 000 baht for the "surgery". She said that she will replace the veneers for free, even though nothing was wrong with them according to her, and she claimed to have done nothing wrong; however, I must pay her for the work of the other dentist. That other dentist was nowhere to be seen.
She was very rude and left me with her assistant, and I was confused and in shock. I only had half the sum she demanded on hand, and I told her assistant. Her assistant went away and came back, and said that I can pay the rest later. I can add that her "assistant" was her daughter.
After I left, I started to feel very painful as the anaesthetic wore off, and I realized the labial frenum had been cut. There was a lot of bleeding in the evening. It has been a week now, and I did not hear from her. She had needlessly mutilated me to extort me for money to replace the veneers.
And I read that the procedure performed, which only took a few seconds, is called frenectomy and nowhere does it cost 25 000 baht. I had trouble sleeping all week, and feeling anxious. I came to her thinking she genuinely wanted to help. The TMD already give me constant pain.
I know I do not want to go back to her, and I do not believe there is any way she can be held responsible for her actions; meaning my only choice is to go somewhere else to have the veneers replaced, deal with the trauma, and continue treatment for the TMD that she caused.
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2023.02.23 16:02 No-Performance627 The dentist from hell (story)

I went to a dentist in Bangkok half a year ago to get porcelain veneers, which was something that I had wanted to do for a long time, and I guess I was influenced by the marketing material I read from dental clinics online. I had healthy teeth but some cosmetic issues bothering me.
It always mentioned that a super tiny amount of enamel was removed on the front when getting veneers, with pictures of veneers being attached to teeth akin to fake nails, and of course amazing before/after pictures. I thought nothing could go wrong.
I had looked around some, comparing different dental hospitals and larger clinics, but they always made it so complicated to get an appointment. I found a dentist with near-perfect reviews (in retrospect I believe they were fake reviews).
She quoted me by email 12 000 baht for each porcelain veneer, and it was cheaper than most other options, but when I came to see her she said it will cost 15 000 baht and she said that she wanted me to be happy with the result and have the best kind of veneers.
I asked her what kind of laboratory make the veneers, and what brand they are? But she only told me that the veneers are "very good". It felt a bit odd, but she seemed very keen to get started, and I had already spent a long time looking for dentists and compared different options.
Once I had agreed to the procedure, she was very pushy about me paying her in advance, but I wanted to pay her for each phase. Almost like threatening me, she would nag me to pay her everything. She did not want card payment, and added a 5% fee then, claiming it is what the bank charges her for card payments. I ended up paying her in cash and she did not give me a receipt.
The temporary composite veneers were good-looking, and I felt no discomfort. She received the rest of the money for the porcelain veneers. Then she shaved my teeth, and in particular my two upper front teeth ended up very small. I felt discomfort there after she put on the veneers. It felt like there was tightness and pressure.
When she had put on the veneers, she said I need to pay her 35 000 baht for a mouthguard, and I knew they costed around 5000 baht elsewhere. She was very insistent, and without the payment, she made it quite clear that she would not finish the job. I had no choice but to pay her.
Because of the discomfort, she did some adjustments, but the discomfort did not go away. I started to get a pain in my natural teeth, clicking sound in the jaw, and my upper front teeth kept moving and creating malocclusion. She insisted everything was fine, and that she will not do anything more.
When I left Thailand, I went to a prosthodontist who examined me, and even though he said it is very hard to see problems with veneers without a previous dental scan, or removing the veneers; he did say that he believes there are many different problems with the veneers.
I messaged the dentist in Thailand, but she denied anything could possibly be wrong. Soon after I developed symptoms of temporomandibular joint dysfunction (TMD), and I had many symptoms. I knew something was wrong, and I went to a dentist right away who diagnosed it as TMD.
The pain and range of symptoms increased, and different dentists I saw had different theories. I contacted her, thinking she might know what is wrong, and I told her I think the veneers on the upper front teeth are too tight. She agreed it could be the issue.
Even so, she did not admit it caused the TMD, but rather made it sound like a cosmetic issue and that I could come back to her and she would fix it free of charge, saying even though she did nothing wrong she want me to be happy with the look of the veneers.
I went to her, and she made small gaps in the veneers in the upper front teeth, which seemed to release a lot of tightness, but I told her I still feel pressure. She said that she would replace the veneers free of charge, and I came to her and she hastily and brutally removed the veneers.
The composite was put on very sloppily, which she said herself, and claimed it was intentional because she might "play around" with the composite to see how I feel. Then she said that I should come back in a few hours, and that another dentist will take a look to make sure everything is good.
She is the owner of the clinic, and the only dentist working there, so I thought it odd, but I believed she might just be cautious this time, and wanting a second opinion to avoid any more mistakes. When I came back there were medicines in a bag prepared. I thought it was for another patient.
When she saw I had arrived, she disappeared, and her assistant told me that I can see the other dentist. She just looked for a second, said that she saw a "problem", and asked me if I want her to fix it? I thought she meant that I might have some food stuck in-between my teeth or something like that.
Then she injected me with anaesthetic, and cut me under the upper lip. The whole procedure took a few seconds. I did not know what had been done, and because of the anaesthetic I did not feel any pain. Her assistant told me right after to go wait in the waiting room.
Immediately the owner of the clinic showed up, and told me that I need to pay 25 000 baht for the "surgery". She said that she will replace the veneers for free, even though nothing was wrong with them according to her, and she claimed to have done nothing wrong; however, I must pay her for the work of the other dentist. That other dentist was nowhere to be seen.
She was very rude and left me with her assistant, and I was confused and in shock. I only had half the sum she demanded on hand, and I told her assistant. Her assistant went away and came back, and said that I can pay the rest later. I can add that her "assistant" was her daughter.
After I left, I started to feel very painful as the anaesthetic wore off, and I realized the labial frenum had been cut. There was a lot of bleeding in the evening. It has been a week now, and I did not hear from her. She had needlessly mutilated me to extort me for money to replace the veneers.
And I read that the procedure performed, which only took a few seconds, is called frenectomy and nowhere does it cost 25 000 baht. I had trouble sleeping all week, and feeling anxious. I came to her thinking she genuinely wanted to help. The TMD already give me constant pain.
I know I do not want to go back to her, and I do not believe there is any way she can be held responsible for her actions; meaning my only choice is to go somewhere else to have the veneers replaced, deal with the trauma, and continue treatment for the TMD that she caused.
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2023.02.23 06:06 Helluritmur MRI questions/advice needed

So I started getting clicking in my jaw in the middle of orthodontic treatment when I was around 15 years old (28 now). This orthodontist pointed out a tongue thrust and a tongue tie halfway through treatment. It was the first I had heard of any of this. My jaw has also deviated when I open and close for a long time too. I can't remember if that started around the time of braces or it could've started after a whiplash injury when I was 18. I never really had pain, just clicking and popping and the deviations. About a year ago, I had a tonsillectomy. I feared for my jaw. Sure enough, I had persistent pain, limited range of motion, and tension. My guess is it was a bad combo of force/trauma + a ton of inflammation. I told my ENT about my issue and she said she could refer me to physical therapy if it didn't get better. Many months went by and very very slowly I started to get a little more range of motion. During this time I also started learning a lot about tongue ties. I used my referral to a physical therapy/speech therapy clinic and spoke to a myofunctional therapist and had her do an evaluation and have been doing therapy and exercises for about 4 months. I've been working with 2 SLPs who do myofunctional therapy and I've gotten pain relief! I still get a little bit of pain when eating certain things and it still feels pretty tight when I go to open my mouth all the way. Some of my exercises are tongue related and some are geared toward strengthening and stabilizing the jaw. And recently she has asked me to not open my mouth all the way, especially when yawning. Anyway, we are talking about doing a frenectomy and my therapist just mentioned last week that she'd like to get an MRI of my jaw. Therapy has been expensive and all out of pocket. Any tongue tie procedure will also be out of pocket. I do not know how much an MRI costs, but I can't afford it. I am on medicaid and don't know if there's a way to get them to cover that or how to go about that, as the imaging department has given me trouble before. Maybe my ENT could do a referral for it? My other questions are about the actual MRI process. How long does it take for the scans to be done? And if you have to hold your mouth open for part of it, do you have to open it all the way and for how long? Thanks 🙏
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2022.12.28 07:31 LastRip8849 Gum Grafts at 24

Hi I recently went to new dentist who recommended getting a free gingival graft for my two lower front teeth that have a really small amount of receding at the gums. He also suggested a frenectomy. I'm only 24 years old, but he said my gums WILL start receding here eventually if I leave it as it. I've also had braces.
I know it's quite expensive in America (where I'm from), but I'm currently living in a country where it's covered by insurance. I'm torn because if I wait until I'm older and back in America, it'll cost me thousands of dollars but here it'll be way cheaper. I also assume that since I'm young it'll heal faster.
Is getting preventative gum grafting/frenectomy worth it? How sure is it that someone in my situation will get significant gum receding down the line that'll warrant gum grafting?
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2022.12.12 20:15 chidori99 frenectomy costs in Istanbul

Hey guys I’m planning to come to Istanbul for a 10 day vacation and since turkey has one of the cheapest and best dental care I wanted to know how much a frenectomy would cost in Istanbul. Please let me know so I can bring enough.
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2022.10.04 22:51 Cheesecake-Town Pre-operative Myofunctional therapy for tongue tie - skeptical!

Howdy all,
I'm an adult getting ready for a tongue tie release. The doc I'll use specializes in releases for both kids and adults, and after a consult I trust him.
As seems to be standard, he said I need to see a myofunctional therapist BEFORE the procedure, citing better outcomes. I've read this elsewhere.
It makes 100% sense that these kinds of exercises need to be done post-op, to prevent reattachment and create new patterns with the improved mobility. But pre-op? From my digging it is not well-researched, nor does it make intuitive sense. Why are we trying to improve the function of the current (limited) structure, when the structure will completely change post op? One speech therapist told me it doesn't make any sense to her, but she admitted she only works with tongue ties in kids and wasn't sure.
What makes me really skeptical is the business models of these myofunctional therapists. I have contacted 5 or 6 of them, some local and others remote.
Take Myfaceology, for example. You have to pay $149 for a consult, and I was quoted $1200-$3000 for the whole program. A REMOTE program. It seems bizarre that a therapist could provide A+ care if they can't see you in person. I was sort of shocked and told them the cost was too much. I was then offered an 8-week GROUP program of recorded videos and 30-minute Q&A's for only $850. How is this as good as seeing a therapist for 2-3x more money?
Other providers are similar, and many offer pre-payment discounts for packages. That tells me they'll take my money regardless of whether I do my exercises or not, and they don't seem to have any objective ways to tell me whether I'm ready for the frenectomy or not. Oh and the therapists that charge $100 for a box of random props...it's just weird.
I've watched videos and done research. These exercises are not rocket science and few if any of these therapists take measurements or do anything to objectively measure progress. The value they offer, particularly in pre-op, seems sketchy at best.
Perhaps I'm crusty and skeptical, but I don't want to spend a lot of money on pointless therapy that I can just do myself for a couple of weeks. Am I off base? I'd love to hear your experience and thoughts. Thanks!
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2022.09.07 18:33 Fun-Direction-8015 bottle preference

my 9 week old is suddenly preferring bottles, we pace feed and have been trying to do everything by the book but its been a couple of days of her refusing to breastfeed! Every time i put her in a nursing position she starts crying tried so many different positions but every time she latches she barely sucks and starting screaming bloody murder. Takes bottle like a champ right away🥺 I’m so sad and don’t know what else to do!! I’m working on a low supply due to her posterior tongue tie that was clipped once but reattached. Now waiting for her laser frenectomy that’s going to cost me lotsss, but worried it’s going to be for no reason if she’s starting to refuse the breast🥺 Anyone experience something like this before?
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2022.04.20 03:36 Reddresscries Stubborn Diastema despite braces, wearing retainers

I'm 25 (F) and I hate my gap. I had braces from the ages of 14-17, headgear, and then my orthodontist took off my braces and realized I had a labial frenum- the issue is the gap was already open, he sent me for a laser frenectomy, I came back, and he sent me off with a Hawley Spring retainer (wore that full time for a year, hated it, couldn't speak, it had a big bar in the front) and then was directed to wear it at night. The issue was the gap reopened every day, closed at night, it was a constant cycle for 7ish years.
Wisdom tooth came in starting giving me problems in 2021, so I got them taken out- issue is, I kept wearing the same retainer and soon I kid you not, my teeth started to feel loose. I stopped wearing the retainer, realized my orthodontist left the state, so I booked an appointment/consultation with my sister's orthodontist just to see what my options were with this gap.
So apparently I don't qualify for invisalign, he instead offered me a phone number for jaw surgery lmfao (yeah can't afford that), and he said to put two rubber bands around my four front teeth the morning of the retainer fitting and he would fit a retainer with it closed-- I realized i would have two gaps at this point and just paid $500 for a clear Hawley retainer on my teeth that had a gap reopened..should I have taken this rubber band option up??
Now I wear just a normal Essix retainer, but my gap is getting bigger and I might have gum recession or something because I'm getting a traingle too. Food keeps getting stuck, and I hate how I look. I've been looking into cosmetic bonding since I can't afford veneers, but the cost is...a lot for someone who hasn't had dental insurance (and as a medical student).
I feel like I'm one of those people with a stubborn gap that keeps coming back no matter what, even if I went for another round of braces and all, it would be there. What do I do? I can't embrace it no matter what.
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2022.03.20 20:55 ProtContQB1 Offered PPO and DMO dental plans. PPO is 3x more expensive but I can't determine benefits.

I was offered wo plans from Aetna, DMO Plan 65 and PPO Dental (no additional identifying information for policy)
I don't understand why the PPO plan is so much more expensive because it caps coverage per year at $1500 and it groups expenses as type "A", "B", "C" without dicating what types of expenses fall into each category. Coinsurance for the categories are 100%, 80%, and 50%
Meanwhile, the DMO plan details different services and specifically dictates the copayment amount for each service. It also doesn't dictate a plan maximum amount.
It looks like the DMO plan is the better and less expensive plan, but I don't know anything about insurance so I can't tell why the PPO plan is more expensive and seemingly worse coverage.

Schedule of Benefits (GR-9N-S-01-001-01 FL) Employer: Group Policy Number: Issue Date: November 8, 2018 Effective Date: October 1, 2018 Schedule: 2A Cert Base: 2 For: PPO Dental This is an ERISA plan, and you have certain rights under this plan. Please contact your Employer for additional information. Comprehensive Dental Plan (PPO) Schedule of Comprehensive Dental Benefits (GR-9N-S-21-005-01) PLAN FEATURES NETWORK OUT-OF-NETWORK Calendar Year Deductible Individual $50 Family $150 Individual $50 Family $150 The Calendar Year deductible applies to all covered expenses except Type A Expenses. (GR-9N-S-21-010-01) Please refer to the listing of covered expenses and the percentage payable appearing below. The percentage the plan will pay varies by the type of expense. PLAN COINSURANCE NETWORK COINSURANCE OUT-OF-NETWORK COINSURANCE Type A Expenses 100% 100% Type B Expenses 80% 80% Type C Expenses 50% 50% Calendar Year Maximum Benefit (GR-9N-S-21-010-01) Calendar Year Maximum: $1,500 The most the plan will pay for covered expenses incurred by any one covered person in a Calendar Year is called the Calendar Year Maximum Benefit. The Calendar Year maximum benefit applies to network and out-of-network covered dental expenses combined. GR-9N 2 Expense Provisions (GR-9N-S-09-05-01 FL) The following provisions apply to your health expense plan. This section describes cost sharing features, benefit maximums and other important provisions that apply to your Plan. The specific cost sharing features and the applicable dollar amounts or benefit percentages are contained in the attached health expense sections of this Schedule of Benefits. The insurance described in this Schedule of Benefits will be provided under Aetna Life Insurance Company's policy form GR-29N. Keep This Schedule of Benefits With Your Booklet-Certificate. Deductible Provisions (GR-9N-S-09-05-01 FL) Network Calendar Year Deductible This is an amount of network covered expenses incurred each Calendar Year for which no benefits will be paid. The network Calendar Year deductible applies separately to you and each of your covered dependents. After covered expenses reach the network Calendar Year deductible, the plan will begin to pay benefits for covered expenses for the rest of the Calendar Year. Out-of-Network Calendar Year Deductible This is an amount of out-of-network covered expenses incurred each Calendar Year for which no benefits will be paid. The out-of-network Calendar Year deductible applies separately to you and each of your covered dependents. After covered expenses reach the out-of-network Calendar Year deductible, the plan will begin to pay benefits for covered expenses for the rest of the Calendar Year. Covered expenses applied to the out-of-network deductible will be applied to satisfy the network deductible and covered expenses applied to the network deductible will be applied to satisfy the out-of-network deductible. Network Family Deductible Limit When you incur network covered expenses that apply toward the network Calendar Year deductibles for you and each of your covered dependents these expenses will also count toward the network Calendar Year family deductible limit. Your network family deductible limit will be considered to be met for the rest of the Calendar Year once the combined covered expenses reach the network family deductible limit in a Calendar Year. Out-of-Network Family Deductible Limit When you incur out-of-network covered expenses that apply toward the out-of-network Calendar Year deductibles for you and each of your covered dependents these expenses will also count toward the out-of-network Calendar Year family deductible limit. Your out-of-network family deductible limit will be considered to be met for the rest of the Calendar Year once the combined covered expenses reach the out-of-network family deductible limit in a Calendar Year. Covered expenses applied to the out-of-network deductible will be applied to satisfy the network deductible and covered expenses applied to the network deductible will be applied to satisfy the out-of-network deductible. Copayments and Benefit Deductible Provisions (GR-9N-09-015-01 FL) Copayment, Copay This is a specified dollar amount or percentage, shown in the Schedule of Benefits, you are required to pay for covered expenses. GR-9N 3 Coinsurance Provisions (GR-9N S-09-020 01) Coinsurance This is the percentage of your covered expenses that the plan pays and the percentage of covered expenses that you pay. The percentage that the plan pays is referred to as the “Plan Coinsurance”. Once applicable deductibles have been met, your plan will pay a percentage of the covered expenses, and you will be responsible for the rest of the costs. The coinsurance percentage may vary by the type of expense. Refer to your Schedule of Benefits for coinsurance amounts for each covered benefit. Maximum Benefit Provisions (GR-9N S-09-025 01) Calendar Year Maximum Benefit The most the plan will pay for covered expenses incurred by any one covered person in a Calendar Year is called the Calendar Year maximum benefit. The Calendar Year maximum benefit will not deny benefits for certain covered expenses in any one Calendar Year. The Calendar Year maximum benefit applies to network care and out-of-network care expenses combined. General (GR-9N-28-01-01-FL) This Schedule of Benefits replaces any similar Schedule of Benefits previously in effect under your plan of benefits. Requests for coverage other than that to which you are entitled in accordance with this Schedule of Benefits cannot be accepted. This Schedule is part of your Booklet-Certificate and should be kept with your Booklet-Certificate form GR-9N. Coverage is underwritten by Aetna Life Insurance Company. 

Schedule of Benefits (GR-9N-S-01-001-01 FL) Employer: Group Policy Number: Issue Date: November 8, 2018 Effective Date: October 1, 2018 Schedule: 1A Cert Base: 1 For: DMO PLan 65 This is an ERISA plan, and you have certain rights under this plan. Please contact your Employer for additional information. Managed Dental Plan Schedule of Managed Dental Benefits (GR-9N-22-005-02 FL) This Schedule Applies to Covered Expenses Provided by Network Providers. Office Visit Copayment $5 per visit. Dental Emergency Maximum: $100 Dental Care Schedule The following dental care schedule shows services that require a copay; and the copay amount. Dental services that are considered covered expenses as shown in the dental care schedule must be given by network providers, at the dental office location. The exceptions to this rule are when Aetna approves referral care, or for out-of-area emergency dental care. In addition to copays for covered expenses shown in the following schedule, you will also be responsible for an office visit copay as shown above. If:  A charge is made for an unlisted service given for the dental care of a specific condition; and  The list includes one or more services that, under standard practices, are separately suitable for the dental care of that condition, then the charge will be considered to have been made for a service that would have produced professionally acceptable result, as determined by Aetna. GR-9N 2 This Schedule Applies to Services Provided by Network Providers Primary Care Dentist Services (GR-9N-S-22-010-01) Visits and Exams Copayment Amount Oral examination (limited to total of 4 visits per year) $0 Emergency palliative treatment $10 Prophylaxis (cleaning), (limited to 2 treatments per year) Adult $0 Child $0 Topical application of fluoride (limited to 1 treatment per year and to covered persons under age 16) $0 Oral hygiene instruction $0 Sealants, per tooth (limited to 1 application every 3 years for permanent molars and to covered persons under age 16) $0 Pulp vitality test $0 Consultation $0 Diagnostic casts $0 X-Rays and Pathology Bitewing x-rays (limited to 1 set per year) $0 Entire series, including bitewings, or panoramic film, (limited to 1 set every 3 years) $0 Vertical bitewing X-rays (limited to 1 set every 3 years) $0 Periapical x-ray $0 Intra-oral, occlusal view, maxillary or mandibular $0 Extra-oral upper or lower jaw $0 Accession of oral tissue $0 Space Maintainers - (only when needed to preserve space resulting from premature loss of primary teeth) Includes all adjustments within six months after installation Fixed $0 Removable $0 Recement space maintainer $12 Remove fixed space maintainer (by dentist who did not place appliance) $12 Endodontics Pulp cap $0 Pulpotomy $0 Root canal therapy, including necessary x-rays Anterior $50 Bicuspid $70 Restorations and Repairs (Copayments for crowns and pontics are per unit.) There will be an additional patient charge for the actual cost of high noble metal ("gold") when used for services shown with an asterisk. Amalgam restoration 1 surface $0 2 surfaces $0 3 surfaces $0 4 or more surfaces $0 GR-9N 3 Resin-based composite restoration (anterior) 1 surface $0 2 surfaces $0 3 surfaces $0 4 or more surfaces or incisal angle $40 Resin-based composite crown, anterior $40 Resin-based composite restoration (posterior) 1 surface $35 2 surfaces $45 3 surfaces $55 4 or more surfaces $75 Retention pins $10 Stainless steel crowns, prefabricated, primary tooth $0 Stainless steel crowns, prefabricated, permanent tooth $40 Recementing inlays or crowns $5 Recementing bridges $15 Sedative filling $0 Inlays metallic* $190 Crowns Porcelain $225 Porcelain with metal (includes abutments)* $225 Metallic (full cast) (includes abutments)* $225 Metallic (3/4 cast)* $225 Cast post and core* $80 Prefabricated post and core $70 Core buildup including pins $60 Pontics Metallic (full cast)* $225 Porcelain with metal* $225 Full mouth rehabilitation, per unit (This means 6 or more covered units of crowns and/or pontics under one treatment plan.) $125 Dentures and Partials - (Includes relines, rebases and adjustments within six months after installation. Adjustments within first six months are limited to four.) Complete, upper or lower $275 Partial, upper or lower Resin base $275 Cast metal base $325 Immediate, upper or lower (does not include charge for reline) $325 Adjust complete denture, upper or lower $10 Adjust partial denture, upper or lower $10 Repair broken acrylic, complete denture, upper or lower $30 Replace one tooth on complete denture $35 Repair resin denture base, cast frame, broken clasp $35 Replace broken tooth, partial $35 Add tooth to existing partial denture $35 Add clasp to existing partial $40 Replace all teeth and acrylic on cast metal framework $100 Rebase, complete denture, upper or lower $100 Rebase, partial denture, upper or lower $100 Reline, complete denture, upper or lower (chairside) $40 Reline, partial denture, upper or lower (chairside) $40 Reline, complete denture, upper or lower (laboratory) $90 Reline, partial denture, upper or lower (laboratory) $90 GR-9N 4 Interim partial denture, upper or lower (stayplate), anterior only $90 Tissue conditioning for dentures $40 Periodontics Scaling and root planing, per quadrant (limited to 4 separate quadrants every 2 years) $50 Scaling and root planing -1 to 3 teeth per quadrant (limited to once per site every 2 years) $30 Periodontal maintenance procedures following surgical therapy (limited to 2 per year) $30 Occlusal guard (for bruxism only), limited to 1 every 3 years $100 Oral Surgery - Includes local anesthetics and routine post-operative care Extraction - exposed root or erupted tooth $0 Extraction - coronal remnants - deciduous tooth uncomplicated $0 Surgical removal of erupted tooth $0 Surgical removal of impacted tooth (soft tissue) $0 Incision and drainage of intraoral abscess $10 Mobilization of erupted or malpositioned tooth to aid eruption. $30 Biopsy of oral tissue $50 Specialty Services Copayment Amount Endodontics - Includes local anesthetics where necessary Apicoectomy/periradicular surgery Anterior $65 Bicuspid, first root $65 Molar, first root $80 Each additional root $40 Retrograde filling, per root $20 Root amputation, per root $60 Molar root canal therapy $175 Retreatment of previous root canal therapy Anterior $150 Bicuspid $170 Molar $275 Oral Surgery - Includes local anesthetics where necessary and post-operative care Surgical removal of residual tooth roots $15 Frenectomy $24 Alveoloplasty in conjunction with extractions - per quadrant $18 Alveoloplasty not in conjunction with extractions - per quadrant $25 Surgical removal of impacted tooth Partially bony $45 Completely bony $70 Completely bony with unusual surgical complications $70 Periodontics Gingivectomy or gingivoplasty - per quadrant, limited to 1 per quadrant, every 3 years $100 Gingivectomy or gingivoplasty - 1-3 teeth, limited to 1 per site, every 3 years $30 Gingival flap procedure - per quadrant $110 Gingival flap procedure - 1-3 teeth one per quadrant $66 Occlusal adjustment (other than with an appliance or restoration) Limited $20 Complete $80 Osseous surgery (including flap entry and closure) - per quadrant, limited to 1 per quadrant, every 3 years $250 GR-9N 5 Osseous surgery (including flap entry and closure) - 1 to 3 teeth, limited to once per site every 3 years $150 Surgical revision procedure, per tooth $100 Pedicle soft tissue graft $190 Free soft tissue graft (including donor site surgery) $205 Subepithelial connective tissue graft $115 Soft tissue allograft $230 Combined connective tissue and double pedicle graft $190 Clinical crown lengthening - hard tissue $150 General Anesthesia and Intravenous Sedation - (only when provided in conjunction with a covered surgical procedure) Deep sedation/General Anesthesia First 30 minutes $165 each additional 15 minutes $70 Intravenous conscious sedation/analgesia First 30 minutes $165 each additional 15 minutes $70 Orthodontics Limited to treatment of cleft lip or cleft palate for a child under age 18 ** Oral Surgery – Includes local anesthesia where necessary and post-operative care Cleft lip or cleft palate surgery for a child under age 18 ** **An amount to be determined which is consistent with other covered services in this section as shown in this Schedule of Benefits. Expense Provisions (GR-9N-S-09-05-01 FL) The following provisions apply to your health expense plan. This section describes cost sharing features, benefit maximums and other important provisions that apply to your Plan. The specific cost sharing features and the applicable dollar amounts or benefit percentages are contained in the attached health expense sections of this Schedule of Benefits. The insurance described in this Schedule of Benefits will be provided under Aetna Life Insurance Company's policy form GR-29N. Keep This Schedule of Benefits With Your Booklet-Certificate. Copayments and Benefit Deductible Provisions (GR-9N-09-015-01 FL) Copayment, Copay This is a specified dollar amount or percentage, shown in the Schedule of Benefits, you are required to pay for covered expenses. General (GR-9N-28-01-01-FL) This Schedule of Benefits replaces any similar Schedule of Benefits previously in effect under your plan of benefits. Requests for coverage other than that to which you are entitled in accordance with this Schedule of Benefits cannot be accepted. This Schedule is part of your Booklet-Certificate and should be kept with your Booklet-Certificate form GR-9N. Coverage is underwritten by Aetna Life Insurance Company. 
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2021.10.13 03:34 CantoErgoSum A Good Dental Experience

A Good Dental Experience
Pictures below! What is the policy for putting in photos?
Hi all,
I got a DM asking me to share my experience here so I am making this post to share my very positive dental experience so that other people can be encouraged to take good care!
I grew up in a very abusive home, where my brothers and I didn't get much in the way of healthcare, and no dental care at all after the mandatory kindergarten visit. My teeth grew in horrendously crooked and were a source of great embarrassment to me as I grew up, though I brushed and cared for them since I thought if no one else will care for them then I should.
So the next time I visited a dentist was 25 years later at the age of 30, when I had dental insurance and some money for a basic cleaning. I went to a dentist near my job and he gave me a cleaning, recommended I see a periodontist, and strenuously recommended braces. They were out of my cost range at the time and I ended up having to wait another year to finally get them, but after another basic cleaning, I got braces fitted and paid a whopping $350 a month for 18 months of wire and bracket braces. I got ceramic brackets on top so they were less noticeable but did metal on the bottom. I had a pretty standard treatment with power chains and tooth filing because the edges of my teeth were all worn down unevenly because they had been so crooked for so long. I also had a frenectomy to remove my broken upper lip frenulum that had been injured when I was kicked in the face in an accident (think little kid, I got in the way of the swing). I went to a periodontist for that, where I also got my first two deep cleanings. The periodontist was surprised to see I still had all my teeth, including my wisdom teeth which thankfully grew in without any issue, and performed the frenectomy with a laser. It took maybe an hour from getting there to finishing the procedure and giving me one extra shot of Novocain for good luck (I very much appreciated that because when it wore off, whew! and i had to take the bus home. i was grateful for the mask lol). The frenectomy was very necessary.
I had my braces put on 3/17/19 and removed 12/9/20. It was about $6900 dollars and I got a set of retainers included in the price, which are clear aligners like Invisalign. It was SO WORTH IT. I'm so glad I did it. I have another deep cleaning scheduled for December. I never want there to be a reason to neglect my dental health ever again. I am no longer ashamed to smile in pictures and I feel as though I no longer look like the abused kid that grew up with parents who didn't want to do their jobs. It's very liberating and I encourage everyone here to please care for yourselves, including your teeth.
This was my braces before and after:

2015
2020
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2021.09.07 17:39 coldbrewandcarey Don't know who to trust

First time poster here, getting slightly desperate. Long story short, I've tried several different treatments for my TMJD and am starting to flare up again due to probably a poor choice of my own, but I'm not really sure where to go from here.
For background - I'm 30ish F, had traditional orthodontics as a kid, but noticed my TMJD in college and started receiving treatment from a local "specialist". I'm torn about this experience because on one hand, I found some relief from this treatment, but it also lasted around 10 years and cost thousands and thousands of dollars that I don't really have anymore to maintain. I was given multiple different appliances, was encouraged to get a frenectomy (which I did), and eventually was just given a nightguard to wear to keep my teeth apart/tongue on palate. Unfortunately, he moved my teeth around a bit and left some gaps, and since I'm vain and my jaw wasn't bothering me much anymore, I opted to get braces again to fix this (and this has some insurance coverage, which the TMJ treatments don't). I'm about halfway through my braces, but since I can't wear my mouthpiece anymore, I'm getting some symptoms back (mostly soreness, tinnitus, and not sure if related but a patulous Eustachian tube). Not sure if I just suck if up for 6 more months and then get a new mouthpiece or find a new doctor (though I'm very skeptical because all of the specialists I've seen give off major snake oil vibes). I've also considered Botox as I've heard of some individual success stories but haven't found good widespread evidence for it.
I'm definitely open to suggestions and am happy to hear what has worked for you (and any tips for finding a good doctor or resource!)
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2021.09.05 08:01 bestusernameigot Frenectomy/bonding vs. Invisalign

I went up a new dentist to inquire about bonding to fix the gap between my two front teeth. They told me if I did, I would first need a frenectomy, but they said they would recommend Invisalign instead of bonding because my other teeth didn’t match up when I bit. They said if I didn’t get Invisalign, down the road, my teeth would fracture, including any bond.
I’d never heard any of this before from previous dentists and my teeth have always had no other issues, so two questions:
  1. Is them pushing Invisalign an upsell or is their validity to this? It’s more than double the cost of frenectomy + bonding.
  2. If I got the bonding, is a frenectomy still necessary? Could the issue separate a bond?
Appreciate your advice. Thanks.
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