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Couple of old threads I came up on over the last month

2024.05.19 14:32 ThaiHasBeen Couple of old threads I came up on over the last month

Couple of old threads I came up on over the last month
I love this large Dick…Tracy shirt! Check out the two Utah “houses of ill repute” tees near the end.
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2024.05.12 16:09 shonkywonkydonkey Every In-Game Song Associated With Each Character in SSX 3 (and some other notes)

This should be a definitive list of every song that each character asks Atomika to play on Radio BIG, and which song plays whenever they're on the first place podium. Sources: SSX 3 Sound Pack (Atomika's music introductions), various gameplay videos on YouTube and the game's instruction manual (online version here)
Zoe Requested song: Aphrodite - Wobble Podium song: Custom theme (the original character themes are written by CDT - no idea if that's a person or a group of people though) Other: Thrice - Stare at the Sun (Atomika says "Zoe turned me on to these guys")
Moby Requested song: N.E.R.D. - Rockstar (Jason Nevins Remix) Podium song: The Chemical Brothers - Leave Home
Psymon Requested song: Kinky - Mas Podium song: Aphrodite - Wobble
Griff Requested song: Swollen Members - All Night Podium song: Custom theme
Viggo Requested song: Ima Robot - A is for Action Podium song: Yellowcard - Way Away
Elise Requested song: Red Hot Chili Peppers - Higher Ground (X-Ecutioners Remix) Podium Song: Royksopp - Poor Leno Nate Requested song: Caesars - Jerk It Out Podium song: Custom theme Other: Basement Jaxx - Do Your Thing (Atomika: "Nate Logan turned me on to them")
Mac Requested song: Alpine Stars - Snow Patrol Podium song: Dilated Peoples - Who's Who
Allegra Requested song: X-Ecutioners - Like This Podium song: Custom theme
Kaori Requested song: Swollen Members - Deep End (Utah Saints Remix) Podium song: Basement Jaxx - Do Your Thing
John Morgan's Buffet of Breaks isn't played for one character in particular, but Atomika calls him "the most requested artist by our SSX competitors". Morgan also made about half of the songs on the soundtracks of the first two SSX games, and also made the peak themes and arranged the custom character themes in this game.
BONUS Songs requested by other people Black Eyed Peas - Labor Day (requested by "Sherpa manservant Carlo") Overseer - Screw Up (requested by "Sophia up on Peak 2") Kinky - Mas (requested by "TG up on Peak 1") Andy Hunter - Go (requested by Powder Pete, the Osprey pilot) Deepsky - Ride (requested by "that nasty ski patroller LG up on Peak 3") Dan the Automator feat. Q-Bert - Bear Witness III (requested by Rob from Rob & Bob's Board Shop) Fat Boy Slim - Don't Let the Man Get You Down (requested by "Combat Tracy")
Songs that aren't character themes or directly requested by anyone Thrice - Stare at the Sun (see Zoe's section) Felix da Housecat - Silver Screen Shower Scene (he does do an EA Radio BIG promo though) MxPx - Play It Loud (they also did a bunch of Radio BIG promos) Fischerspooner - Emerge (Junkie XL Remix) (both Fischer and Spooner do a Radio BIG promo each - rock ooooooon!) Placebo - The Bitter End (Atomika says the "video game geeks" at EA got him into this song) Finger Eleven - Good Times Audio Bullys - We Don't Care Jane's Addiction - Hypersonic Queens of the Stone Age - No One Knows (UNKLE Remix) Autopilot Off - Clocks (not requested but dedicated to Powder Pete, whom Atomika mentions elsewhere crashes Ospreys quite a lot. See what he did there?) k-os - Freeze Powerplant - Avalanche (UPDATE) I forgot about this one: The Faint - Glass Danse (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
More unnecessary trivia - John Morgan is ALSO one half of Powerplant, which slightly explains why Atomika never directly introduces them whenever Avalanche plays - The character themes are mixed by Francois Lafleur, who also provided the voice of JP in the original SSX - EDITED: Along with Powerplant, I believe the artists that Atomika never mentions by name are Royksopp, MxPx (that'd explain why they have 6 different Radio BIG promos) and The Faint (considering I completely forgot about their song when I first made this post) - Atomika calls k-os and Overseer "these guys" before their songs play, even though they're both solo artists - One of the other Placebo introductions is where Atomika says he won't make fun of people, "except maybe Viggo, but... you know, he has it coming"
Hopefully that post answered a lot of people's questions (maybe some that you didn't even know that you had).
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2024.05.02 08:10 GGGilman87 Reading a book that might be of interest to some here, director of "Stone Cold" Craig R. Baxley's memoirs

His self-published 2021 book, "Driven" details his work from stunt work on 70s TV shows like Kojak, The Rockford Files, Starsky & Hutch, Wonder Woman, and how he had become a go-to stuntman and stunt director by the late 70s/80s, working on films like "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", and Walter Hill's "The Warriors" and "The Long Riders", and shows like "The Dukes of Hazzard" and "The A-Team".
He later details his work on films like Action Jackson, Stone Cold, I Come In Peace, and several noted action movies he almost directed. For instance, he almost got to direct "Blind Fury" with Rutger Hauer. Another was a project titled at the time, "Johnny Utah" when a young Johnny Depp was being considered for the lead...
Another connection, he got to know Warren Beatty after stunt doubling for him during "The Parallax View" and was action director on Beatty's 1981 film "Reds" and later "Dick Tracy", and in one chapter there's a mention of "Ishtar". Let's just say Baxley was apparently almost involved with that production and feels he dodged a bullet.
Mickey called me when he got home and told me some horrible stories about the shoot. Morocco was a volatile country in those days. Between the government and the locals, there was a lot of uncertainty. What was "yes" one day was "no" the next. One issue was when they chose the principal camel, a rare blue-eyed camel. Upon returning to pick it up, they discovered the owner had eaten him.
I made a mistake once and asked Warren about the shoot. We never discussed it again.
Oh, and he was second unit director on "Predator", discussed in Chapter 18 - "Stick Around", and coordinated the sequence with the raid on the rebel camp.
"There was one buzz kill during our shoot. We (my second unit keys) were watching dailies with Joel [Silver], John [McTiernan], and the first unit keys. When the second unit dailies came on, it was dead silent as we continued watching them, suddenly John McTiernan jumped up into the front of the screen and shouted at me, "What the fuck are you doing, this is not a goddam war movie! You're ruining my fucking film!"
Joel shouted back, ‘Shut the fuck up and sit down, John, or I’ll fucking fire you.’ Then he looked over at me and said, ‘This stuff is fantastic.’
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2024.04.27 19:02 HomelessSadVirgin All Fantasy Relevant Players In Order Of Draft Selection

Round 1
1 (1) Caleb Williams , USCQBCHI QB1
2 (2) Jayden Daniels , LSUQBWAS QB2
3 (3) Drake Maye , North CarolinaQBNE QB3
4 (4) Marvin Harrison Jr , Ohio StateWRARI WR1
6 (6) Malik Nabers , LSUWRNYG WR2
8 (8) Michael Penix Jr. , WashingtonQBATL QB4
9 (9) Rome Odunze , WashingtonWRCHI WR3
10 (10) J.J. McCarthy , MichiganQBMIN QB5
12 (12) Bo Nix , OregonQBDEN QB6
13 (13) Brock Bowers , GeorgiaTELV TE1
23 (23) Brian Thomas Jr. , LSUWRJAX WR4
28 (28) Xavier Worthy , TexasWRKC WR5
31 (31) Ricky Pearsall , FloridaWRSF WR6
32 (32) Xavier Legette , South CarolinaWRCAR WR7
Round 2
1 (33) Keon Coleman , Florida StateWRBUF WR8
2 (34) Ladd McConkey , GeorgiaWRLAC WR9
5 (37) Ja'Lynn Polk , WashingtonWRNE WR10
14 (46) Jonathon Brooks , TexasRBCAR RB1
20 (52) Adonai Mitchell , TexasWRIND WR11
21 (53) Ben Sinnott , Kansas StateTEWAS TE2
Round 3
1 (65) Malachi Corley , Western KentuckyWRNJY WR12
2 (66) Trey Benson , Florida StateRBARI RB2
16 (80) Jermaine Burton , AlabamaWRCIN WR13
18 (82) Tip Reiman , IllinoisTEARI TE3
19 (83) Blake Corum , MichiganRBLAR RB3
20 (84) Roman Wilson - MichiganWRPIT WR14
25 (88) MarShawn Lloyd , USCRBGB RB4
29 (92) Jalen McMillan , WashingtonWRTB WR15
37 (100) Luke McCaffrey , RiceWRWAS WR16
Round 4
1 (101) Ja'Tavion Sanders , TexasTECAR TE4
2 (102) Troy Franklin , OregonWRDEN WR17
7 (107) Theo Johnson , Penn StateTENYG TE5
10 (110) Javon Baker , UCFWRNE WR18
13 (113) Devontez Walker , North CarolinaWRBAL WR19
15 (115) Erick All , IowaTECIN TE6
20 (120) Jaylen Wright , TennesseeRBMIA RB5
21 (121) AJ Barner , MichiganTESEA TE7
23 (123) Cade Stover , Ohio StateTEHOU TE8
25 (125) Bucky Irving , OregonRBTB RB6
27 (127) Will Shipley , ClemsonRBPHI RB7
28 (128) Ray Davis , KentuckyRBBUF RB8
29 (129) Isaac Guerendo , LouisvilleRBSF RB9
31 (131) Jared Wiley , TCUTEKC TE9
32 (132) Sione Vaki , UtahSDET (announced as RB?)
34 (134) Braelon Allen , WisconsinRBNYJ RB10
35 (135) Jacob Cowing , ArizonaWRSF WR20
Round 5
7 (142) Anthony Gould Oregon , StateWRIND WR21
12 (147) Audric Estime , Notre DameRBDEN RB11
15 (150) Spencer Rattler , South CarolinaQBNO QB7
17 (152) Ainias Smith , Texas A&MWRPHI WR22
21 (156) Jamari Thrash , LouisvilleWRCLE WR23
30 (165) Rasheen Ali , MarshallRBBAL RB12
31 (166) Tyrone Tracy Jr. , PurdueRBNYG RB13
32 (167) Keilan Robinson , TexasRBJAX RB14
35 (170) Bub Means , PittsburghWRNO WR24
36 (171) Jordan Travis , Florida StateQBNYJ QB8
38 (173) Isaiah Davis , South Dakota StateRBNYJ RB15
Round 6
5 (181) Kimani Vidal , TroyRBLAC RB16
6 (182) Jha'Quan Jackson , TulaneWRTEN WR25
8 (184) Malik Washington , VirginiaWRMIA WR26
9 (185) Johnny Wilson , Florida StateWRPHI WR27
10 (186) Jase McClellan , AlabamaRBATL RB17
11 (187) Casey Washington , IllinoisWRATL WR28
15 (191) Tejhaun Palmer , UABWRARI WR29
18 (194) Tanner McLachlan , ArizonaTECIN TE10
29 (205) Jawhar Jordan , LouisvilleRBHOU RB18
32 (208) Dylan Laube , New HampshireRBLV RB19
37 (213) Jordan Whittington , TexasWRLAR WR30
40 (216) Ryan Flournoy , Southeast Missouri StateWRDAL WR31
42 (218) Devin Leary , KentuckyQB QB9
Round 7
5 (225) Brenden Rice , USCWRLAC WR32
11 (231) Jaheim Bell , Florida StateTENE TE11
15 (235) Devaughn Vele , UtahWRDEN WR33
21 (241) Tahj Washington , USCWRMIA WR34
25 (245) Michael Pratt , TulaneQBGB
26 (246) Devin Culp , WashingtonTETB
33 (253) Cornelius Johnson , MichiganWRLAC
EDIT: Formatting
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2024.04.22 21:35 Stevedaveken Pre-NFL Draft Top 100 SF/IDP Combined Rookie Rankings - compiled of a weighted average of 45 sources.

 Name Pos Average Rank School Conf. Age @ Start of Season RAS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Caleb Williams QB 1.23 1 USC PAC12 22.8 - Marvin Harrison Jr. WR 1.97 2 Ohio St B1G 22.1 - Jayden Daniels QB 3.73 3 LSU SEC 23.7 - Malik Nabers WR 3.9 4 LSU SEC 21.1 9.67 Drake Maye QB 4.95 5 UNC ACC 22 - Rome Odunze WR 5.71 6 Washington PAC12 22.3 9.92 Brock Bowers TE 7.17 7 Georgia SEC 21.7 - J.J. McCarthy QB 8.13 8 Michigan B1G 21.6 - Brian Thomas Jr. WR 8.82 9 LSU SEC 21.9 9.84 Xavier Worthy WR 12.02 10 Texas Big 12 21.4 9.41 Adonai Mitchell WR 12.95 11 Texas Big 12 21.9 9.99 Jonathon Brooks RB 13.57 12 Texas Big 12 21.1 - Troy Franklin WR 13.66 13 Oregon PAC12 21.6 9.02 Ladd McConkey WR 14.58 14 Georgia SEC 22.8 9.34 Trey Benson RB 16.72 15 FSU ACC 22.1 9.76 Dallas Turner DL 18.76 16 Alabama SEC 21.6 8.86 Michael Penix Jr. QB 19.22 17 Washington PAC12 24.3 9.75 Jared Verse DL 19.72 18 FSU ACC 23.8 9.6 Bo Nix QB 20.28 19 Oregon PAC12 24.5 - Keon Coleman WR 21.17 20 FSU ACC 21.3 8.19 Edgerrin Cooper LB 21.58 21 Texas A&M SEC 22.8 9.13 Lalatu Latu DL 22.05 22 UCLA PAC12 24.5 9.37 Jaylen Wright RB 22.33 23 Tennessee SEC 21.4 9.81 Blake Corum RB 23.17 24 Michigan B1G 23.8 8.24 MarShawn Lloyd RB 26.56 25 USC PAC12 23.7 8.62 Payton Wilson LB 27.06 26 NC State ACC 24.4 9.89 Chop Robinson DL 27.86 27 Penn State B1G 21.7 9.72 Roman Wilson WR 28.24 28 Michigan B1G 23.2 8.59 Xavier Legette WR 28.35 29 South Carolina SEC 23.6 9.9 Ricky Pearsall WR 29.39 30 Florida SEC 24 9.91 Braelon Allen RB 30.33 31 Wisconsin B1G 20.6 - Ja'Tavion Sanders TE 31.26 32 Texas Big 12 21.4 5.75 Malachi Corley WR 34.67 33 WKU USA 22.5 7.76 Junior Colson LB 36.56 34 Michigan B1G 21.8 - Byron Murphy II DL 37.09 35 Texas Big 12 26.6 9.23 Ja'Lynn Polk WR 37.21 36 Washington PAC12 22.4 8.85 Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB 38.59 37 Clemson ACC 21.7 - Jer'Zhan Newton DL 40.4 38 Illinois B1G 22 - Bucky Irving RB 41.25 39 Oregon PAC12 22 2.22 Devontez Walker WR 41.55 40 UNC ACC 23.2 9.76 Audric Estime RB 43.31 41 Notre Dame Ind 21 6.58 Chris Braswell DL 43.47 42 Alabama SEC 22.9 8.73 Jalen McMillan WR 44.19 43 Washington PAC12 22.7 8.67 Tyler Nubin DB 44.46 44 Minnesota B1G 23.2 3.72 Cooper DeJean DB 44.57 45 Iowa B1G 21.6 9.85 Will Shipley RB 45.63 46 Clemson ACC 22 9.58 Darius Robinson DL 46.04 47 Mizzou SEC 23 7.78 Javon Baker WR 46.33 48 UCF Big 12 22.5 7.84 Cedric Gray LB 47.54 49 UNC ACC 21.9 7.26 Jaden Hicks DB 48.93 50 Washington State PAC12 22.1 8.97 Ray Davis RB 49.03 51 Kentucky SEC 24.8 5.41 Brenden Rice WR 49.28 52 USC PAC12 22.5 7.17 Spencer Rattler QB 49.48 53 South Carolina SEC 23.9 4 Javon Bullard DB 54.49 54 Georgia SEC 22 8.25 Jermaine Burton WR 54.57 55 Alabama SEC 23.2 9.09 Bralen Trice DL 54.99 56 Washington PAC12 23.5 7.46 Malik Washington WR 55.53 57 Virginia ACC 23.7 8.63 Trevin Wallace LB 56.45 58 Kentucky SEC 21.5 9.34 Terrion Arnold DB 56.79 59 Alabama SEC 21.5 9.27 Jacob Cowing WR 57.28 60 Arizona PAC12 23.6 6.28 Johnny Wilson WR 57.31 61 FSU ACC 23.4 9.7 QuInyon Mitchell DB 57.8 62 Toledo MAC 23.1 9.79 Luke McCaffrey WR 58.6 63 Rice USA 23.4 9.44 Braden Fiske DL 59.36 64 FSU ACC 24.6 9.89 Ben Sinnott TE 59.77 65 Kansas State Big 12 22.2 9.73 Adisa Isaac DL 60.24 66 Penn State B1G 22.9 8.99 Kamren Kinchens DB 61.68 67 Miami ACC 21.9 2.43 Marshawn Kneeland DL 61.72 68 Western Michigan MAC 23.2 9.08 Isaac Guerendo RB 64.08 69 Louisville ACC 24.2 9.9 Cade Stover TE 64.33 70 Ohio St B1G 24.2 8.22 Mohamed Kamara DL 65.14 71 Colorado State MW 25.3 7.99 Tommy Eichenberg LB 65.47 72 Ohio St B1G 23.6 7.88 Theo Johnson TE 65.7 73 Penn State B1G 23.6 9.93 Cole Bishop DB 67.47 74 Utah PAC12 9.88 Isaiah Davis RB 68.95 75 South Dakota State MW 22.5 8.86 Jonah Elliss DL 69.66 76 Utah PAC12 21.4 8.59 T'Vondre Sweat DL 70.01 77 Texas Big 12 23.2 4.28 Ty'Ron Hopper LB 71.55 78 Mizzou SEC 23.4 7.42 Dylan Laube RB 72.59 79 New Hampshire CAA 24.7 8.79 Kimani Vidal RB 73.28 80 Troy Sun Belt 23 8.88 Kris Jenkins DL 75.2 81 Michigan B1G 22.9 8.99 Kool-Aid McKinstry DB 75.27 82 Alabama SEC 21.9 7.55 Michael Pratt QB 75.34 83 Tulane AAC 22.9 8.28 Nate Wiggins DB 75.59 84 Clemson ACC 21 9.44 Jase McClellan RB 75.67 85 Alabama SEC 22.2 - Edefuan Ulofoshio LB 76.09 86 Washington PAC12 24.6 9.67 Jaylan Ford LB 76.73 87 Michigan B1G 22.8 8.99 Frank Gore Jr. RB 77.2 88 Southern Mississippi USA 22.5 0.59 Jamari Thrash WR 77.29 89 Louisville ACC 23.7 6.77 Joe Milton III QB 78.35 90 Tennessee SEC 24.5 - Calen Bullock DB 79.02 92 USC PAC12 21.4 6.37 Austin Booker DL 79.02 91 Kansas Big 12 24.6 7.02 Dillon Johnson RB 79.58 93 Washington PAC12 23.2 6.78 Leonard Taylor III DL 80.06 94 Miami ACC 22.3 7.33 Tyrice Knight LB 81.37 95 UTEP USA 7.41 Ruke Orhorhoro DL 82.46 97 Clemson ACC 22.9 9.92 Jaheim Bell TE 82.39 96 FSU ACC 23.2 8.45 Jordan Travis QB 83.92 98 FSU ACC 24.3 - Tyrone Tracy Jr. RB 85.01 99 Purdue B1G 24.8 9.78 Ennis Rakestraw Jr. DB 85.26 100 Mizzou SEC 22.3 6.17 
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2024.04.22 21:24 Stevedaveken Top 100 Pre-NFL Draft SF/IDP Rankings - compiled from a weighted average of 45 sources.

 Name Pos Average Rank School Conf. Age @ Start of Season RAS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Caleb Williams QB 1.23 1 USC PAC12 22.8 - Marvin Harrison Jr. WR 1.97 2 Ohio St B1G 22.1 - Jayden Daniels QB 3.73 3 LSU SEC 23.7 - Malik Nabers WR 3.9 4 LSU SEC 21.1 9.67 Drake Maye QB 4.95 5 UNC ACC 22 - Rome Odunze WR 5.71 6 Washington PAC12 22.3 9.92 Brock Bowers TE 7.17 7 Georgia SEC 21.7 - J.J. McCarthy QB 8.13 8 Michigan B1G 21.6 - Brian Thomas Jr. WR 8.82 9 LSU SEC 21.9 9.84 Xavier Worthy WR 12.02 10 Texas Big 12 21.4 9.41 Adonai Mitchell WR 12.95 11 Texas Big 12 21.9 9.99 Jonathon Brooks RB 13.57 12 Texas Big 12 21.1 - Troy Franklin WR 13.66 13 Oregon PAC12 21.6 9.02 Ladd McConkey WR 14.58 14 Georgia SEC 22.8 9.34 Trey Benson RB 16.72 15 FSU ACC 22.1 9.76 Dallas Turner DL 18.76 16 Alabama SEC 21.6 8.86 Michael Penix Jr. QB 19.22 17 Washington PAC12 24.3 9.75 Jared Verse DL 19.72 18 FSU ACC 23.8 9.6 Bo Nix QB 20.28 19 Oregon PAC12 24.5 - Keon Coleman WR 21.17 20 FSU ACC 21.3 8.19 Edgerrin Cooper LB 21.58 21 Texas A&M SEC 22.8 9.13 Lalatu Latu DL 22.05 22 UCLA PAC12 24.5 9.37 Jaylen Wright RB 22.33 23 Tennessee SEC 21.4 9.81 Blake Corum RB 23.17 24 Michigan B1G 23.8 8.24 MarShawn Lloyd RB 26.56 25 USC PAC12 23.7 8.62 Payton Wilson LB 27.06 26 NC State ACC 24.4 9.89 Chop Robinson DL 27.86 27 Penn State B1G 21.7 9.72 Roman Wilson WR 28.24 28 Michigan B1G 23.2 8.59 Xavier Legette WR 28.35 29 South Carolina SEC 23.6 9.9 Ricky Pearsall WR 29.39 30 Florida SEC 24 9.91 Braelon Allen RB 30.33 31 Wisconsin B1G 20.6 - Ja'Tavion Sanders TE 31.26 32 Texas Big 12 21.4 5.75 Malachi Corley WR 34.67 33 WKU USA 22.5 7.76 Junior Colson LB 36.56 34 Michigan B1G 21.8 - Byron Murphy II DL 37.09 35 Texas Big 12 26.6 9.23 Ja'Lynn Polk WR 37.21 36 Washington PAC12 22.4 8.85 Jeremiah Trotter Jr. LB 38.59 37 Clemson ACC 21.7 - Jer'Zhan Newton DL 40.4 38 Illinois B1G 22 - Bucky Irving RB 41.25 39 Oregon PAC12 22 2.22 Devontez Walker WR 41.55 40 UNC ACC 23.2 9.76 Audric Estime RB 43.31 41 Notre Dame Ind 21 6.58 Chris Braswell DL 43.47 42 Alabama SEC 22.9 8.73 Jalen McMillan WR 44.19 43 Washington PAC12 22.7 8.67 Tyler Nubin DB 44.46 44 Minnesota B1G 23.2 3.72 Cooper DeJean DB 44.57 45 Iowa B1G 21.6 9.85 Will Shipley RB 45.63 46 Clemson ACC 22 9.58 Darius Robinson DL 46.04 47 Mizzou SEC 23 7.78 Javon Baker WR 46.33 48 UCF Big 12 22.5 7.84 Cedric Gray LB 47.54 49 UNC ACC 21.9 7.26 Jaden Hicks DB 48.93 50 Washington State PAC12 22.1 8.97 Ray Davis RB 49.03 51 Kentucky SEC 24.8 5.41 Brenden Rice WR 49.28 52 USC PAC12 22.5 7.17 Spencer Rattler QB 49.48 53 South Carolina SEC 23.9 4 Javon Bullard DB 54.49 54 Georgia SEC 22 8.25 Jermaine Burton WR 54.57 55 Alabama SEC 23.2 9.09 Bralen Trice DL 54.99 56 Washington PAC12 23.5 7.46 Malik Washington WR 55.53 57 Virginia ACC 23.7 8.63 Trevin Wallace LB 56.45 58 Kentucky SEC 21.5 9.34 Terrion Arnold DB 56.79 59 Alabama SEC 21.5 9.27 Jacob Cowing WR 57.28 60 Arizona PAC12 23.6 6.28 Johnny Wilson WR 57.31 61 FSU ACC 23.4 9.7 QuInyon Mitchell DB 57.8 62 Toledo MAC 23.1 9.79 Luke McCaffrey WR 58.6 63 Rice USA 23.4 9.44 Braden Fiske DL 59.36 64 FSU ACC 24.6 9.89 Ben Sinnott TE 59.77 65 Kansas State Big 12 22.2 9.73 Adisa Isaac DL 60.24 66 Penn State B1G 22.9 8.99 Kamren Kinchens DB 61.68 67 Miami ACC 21.9 2.43 Marshawn Kneeland DL 61.72 68 Western Michigan MAC 23.2 9.08 Isaac Guerendo RB 64.08 69 Louisville ACC 24.2 9.9 Cade Stover TE 64.33 70 Ohio St B1G 24.2 8.22 Mohamed Kamara DL 65.14 71 Colorado State MW 25.3 7.99 Tommy Eichenberg LB 65.47 72 Ohio St B1G 23.6 7.88 Theo Johnson TE 65.7 73 Penn State B1G 23.6 9.93 Cole Bishop DB 67.47 74 Utah PAC12 9.88 Isaiah Davis RB 68.95 75 South Dakota State MW 22.5 8.86 Jonah Elliss DL 69.66 76 Utah PAC12 21.4 8.59 T'Vondre Sweat DL 70.01 77 Texas Big 12 23.2 4.28 Ty'Ron Hopper LB 71.55 78 Mizzou SEC 23.4 7.42 Dylan Laube RB 72.59 79 New Hampshire CAA 24.7 8.79 Kimani Vidal RB 73.28 80 Troy Sun Belt 23 8.88 Kris Jenkins DL 75.2 81 Michigan B1G 22.9 8.99 Kool-Aid McKinstry DB 75.27 82 Alabama SEC 21.9 7.55 Michael Pratt QB 75.34 83 Tulane AAC 22.9 8.28 Nate Wiggins DB 75.59 84 Clemson ACC 21 9.44 Jase McClellan RB 75.67 85 Alabama SEC 22.2 - Edefuan Ulofoshio LB 76.09 86 Washington PAC12 24.6 9.67 Jaylan Ford LB 76.73 87 Michigan B1G 22.8 8.99 Frank Gore Jr. RB 77.2 88 Southern Mississippi USA 22.5 0.59 Jamari Thrash WR 77.29 89 Louisville ACC 23.7 6.77 Joe Milton III QB 78.35 90 Tennessee SEC 24.5 - Calen Bullock DB 79.02 92 USC PAC12 21.4 6.37 Austin Booker DL 79.02 91 Kansas Big 12 24.6 7.02 Dillon Johnson RB 79.58 93 Washington PAC12 23.2 6.78 Leonard Taylor III DL 80.06 94 Miami ACC 22.3 7.33 Tyrice Knight LB 81.37 95 UTEP USA 7.41 Ruke Orhorhoro DL 82.46 97 Clemson ACC 22.9 9.92 Jaheim Bell TE 82.39 96 FSU ACC 23.2 8.45 Jordan Travis QB 83.92 98 FSU ACC 24.3 - Tyrone Tracy Jr. RB 85.01 99 Purdue B1G 24.8 9.78 Ennis Rakestraw Jr. DB 85.26 100 Mizzou SEC 22.3 6.17 
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2024.04.22 16:41 Gfeaver4 Eagles-centric Draftboard…

So the way I see it (and generally the consensus) Howie should be actively pursuing in the early rounds of the draft a developable RT who can move to G as needed, a CB suited to the zone schemes of Fangio, an Edge if one of the few good ones is there, and possibly a sizable WR or elite slot…
Later picks can be for an in-line TE with receiving upside, a versatile Safety, IOL depth, a LB (or 2), BPA values from falling RBs and IDL… developmental T lottery tickets etc
Howie gonna Howie and move all around the board we all know, but I think the 100 players below constitute a workable draftboard for a successful Eagles draft…
Taliese Fuaga Oregon State OT 6'6" 324
J.C. Latham Alabama OT 6'6" 342
Troy Fautanu Washington OT 6'4" 317
Jared Verse Florida State EDGE 6'4" 254
Terrion Arnold Alabama CB 6'0" 189
Quinyon Mitchell Toledo CB 6'0" 195
Nate Wiggins Clemson CB 6'2" 182
Cooper DeJean Iowa S 6'0" 203
Kool-Aid McKinstry Alabama CB 5'11" 199
Chop Robinson Penn State EDGE 6'3" 254
Jordan Morgan Arizona OT 6'5" 311
Kingsley Suamataia BYU OT 6'5" 325
Keon Coleman Florida State WR 6'3" 213
Junior Colson Michigan ILB 6'2" 235
Chris Braswell Alabama EDGE 6'3" 251
Edgerrin Cooper Texas A&M OLB 6'2" 230
Xavier Legette South Carolina WR 6'3" 227
Mike Sainristil Michigan CB 5'9" 182
T.J. Tampa Iowa State CB 6'1" 189
Max Melton Rutgers CB 5'11" 187
Javon Bullard Georgia S 5'11" 180
Kamari Lassiter Georgia CB 5'11" 186
Malachi Corley Western Kentucky WR 5'11" 210
Tyler Nubin Minnesota S 6'2" 210
Kiran Amegadjie Yale OT 6'5" 318
Dominick Puni Kansas OG 6'5" 320
Jaden Hicks Washington State S 6'3" 212
Jalen McMillan Washington WR 6'1" 186
Khyree Jackson Oregon CB 6'4" 194
Malik Washington Virginia WRS 5'8" 194
Adisa Isaac Penn State EDGE 6'4" 247
Calen Bullock USC S 6'2" 190
Dadrion Taylor-Demerson Texas Tech S 5'11" 195
Kris Abrams-Draine Missouri CBN 5'11" 179
Johnny Wilson Florida State WR 6'6" 240
Andru Phillips Kentucky CB 5'11" 190
Jermaine Burton Alabama WR 6'0" 194
Cam Hart Notre Dame CB 6'3" 202
Elijah Jones Boston College CB 6'1" 185
Theo Johnson Penn State TE 6'6" 260
Ben Sinnott Kansas State TE 6'4" 245
Jared Wiley TCU TE 6'7" 260
Cedric Gray North Carolina ILB 6'2" 232
Jeremiah Trotter Jr. Clemson ILB 6'0" 230
Trevin Wallace Kentucky ILB 6'1" 237
Tykee Smith Georgia S 5'10" 198
Mohamed Kamara Colorado State EDGE 6'1" 248
Brandon Coleman TCU OG 6'5" 325
Renardo Green Florida State CB 6'0" 186
Elijah Jones Boston College CB 6'1" 185
Ty'Ron Hopper Missouri OLB 6'2" 221
D.J. James Auburn CB 6'0" 175
Caedan Wallace Penn State OT 6'5" 323
Walter Rouse Oklahoma OT 6'5" 322
Javon Foster Missouri OT 6'5" 319
MarShawn Lloyd USC RB 5'9" 210
Tyrone Tracy Jr. Purdue RB 5'11" 209
Will Shipley Clemson RB 5'11" 206
Tanor Bortolini Wisconsin OC 6'4" 310
Malik Mustapha Wake Forest S 5'11" 207
Edefuan Ulofoshio Washington ILB 6'1" 239
Tip Reiman Illinois TE 6'5" 270
Kitan Oladapo Oregon State S 6'2" 219
Fabien Lovett Florida State DL3T 6'4" 314
Braelon Allen Wisconsin RB 6'2" 235
Jaheim Bell Florida State TE 6'2" 233
Eric Watts UConn EDGE 6'5" 274
Jaylin Simpson Auburn CBN 6'0" 179
Decamerion Richardson Mississippi State CB 6'2" 188
K.T. Leveston Kansas State OG 6'5" 320
Xavier Thomas Clemson EDGE 6'2" 253
Braiden McGregor Michigan EDGE 6'5" 257
Dominique Hampton Washington S 6'3" 220
Jordan Magee Temple ILB 6'3" 225
Myles Harden South Dakota CB 6'0" 200
Jaylin Simpson Auburn CBN 6'0" 179
Cornelius Johnson Michigan WR 6'3" 211
Jarvis Brownlee Jr. Louisville CB 5'10" 194
Caelen Carson Wake Forest CB 6'0" 199
Kamal Hadden Tennessee CB 6'1" 196
Tommy Eichenberg Ohio State LB 6"2" 235
Ainias Smith Texas A&M WRS 5'9" 190
Ryan Flournoy SE Missouri State WR 6'2" 205
Myles Cole Texas Tech EDGE 6'6" 278
Marist Liufau Notre Dame OLB 6'2" 239
Sataoa Laumea Utah OT 6'4" 311
Frank Crum Wyoming OT 6'8" 313
Ethan Driskell Marshall OT 6'7" 329
Khristian Boyd Northern Iowa DL1T 6'2" 320
Josh Proctor Ohio State S 6'2" 198
Qwan'tez Stiggers Toronto Argonauts CB 6'0" 197
Blake Watson Memphis RB 5'9" 189
Jalen Coker Holy Cross WR 6'3" 213
Trey Taylor Air Force S 6'0" 210
Jaden Crumedy Mississippi State DL3T 6'4" 301
Nathan Thomas Louisiana OT 6'5" 334
Ryan Watts Texas S 6'3" 206
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2024.04.22 14:35 hallach_halil Halil's top 100 prospects of the 2024 NFL Draft:

Halil's top 100 prospects of the 2024 NFL Draft:
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Over the last six-and-a-half weeks, I’ve analyzed the skill-sets of the top ten draft prospects at each position in detail. Now it’s time to put it all together and present my personal big board – numbers one through 100, plus the next 30 names. The way to look at this is thinking of me as a scout for the generic 33rd NFL team, without taking needs and preferences for the franchise into account.
In retrospect, we already knew wide receiver would be insanely deep, illustrated by 17 guys making the cut, but the counterpart group of the cornerback doesn’t finish too far behind with 13 names on here. Meanwhile, running backs and tight-ends are the least-represented groups, with only five guys each. The quarterbacks have driven the conversation throughout the pre-draft process, but you’ll see here shortly that I’m not as high on the group past the top two names as the general consensus.
Keep in mind, I noted injury or off-field concerns with a star (*) and depending on how well I could actually judge how they should impact rankings, I took them into account. The one prospect I excluded here was Texas interior D-lineman T’Vondre Sweat, who we aren’t sure about exactly what the arrest for DWI means for his draft stock.
You can read extensive scouting reports on basically all of the prospects mentioned here, and his is how the board stacks up for me:
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  1. Caleb Williams, QB, USC (QB1)
  2. Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State (WR1)
  3. Malik Nabers, WR, LSU (WR2)
  4. Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina (QB2)
  5. Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State (OT1)
  6. Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame (OT2)
  7. Rome Odunze, WR, Washington (WR3)
  8. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia (TE1)
  9. Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA (EDGE1)*
  10. Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo (CB1)
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  1. Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama (EDGE2)
  2. J.C. Latham, OT, Alabama (OT3)
  3. Jer’Zhan Newton, IDL, Illinois (IDL1)
  4. Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State (OT4)
  5. Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State (EDGE3)
  6. Byron Murphy II, IDL, Texas (IDL2)
  7. Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson (CB2)
  8. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia (OT5)
  9. Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington (OT6)
  10. Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas (WR4)
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  1. Jackson Powers-Johnson, IOL, Oregon (IOL1)
  2. Graham Barton, IOL, Duke (IOL2)
  3. Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama (CB3)
  4. Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU (WR5)
  5. Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama (CB4)
  6. Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa (CB5)
  7. Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State (EDGE4)
  8. Bo Nix, QB, Oregon (QB3)
  9. Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU (QB4)
  10. Tyler Nubin, SAF, Minnesota (SAF1)
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  1. Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona (OT7)
  2. Payton Wilson, LB, N.C. State (LB1)*
  3. Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia (WR6)
  4. Darius Robinson, EDGE, Missouri (EDGE5)
  5. Kris Jenkins, IDL, Michigan (IDL3)
  6. Trey Benson, RB, Florida State (RB1)
  7. Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M (LB2)
  8. Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia (IOL3)*
  9. Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia (CB6)
  10. Ennis Rakestraw Jr., CB, Missouri (CB7)
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  1. Javon Bullard, SAF, Georgia (SAF2)
  2. Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas (TE2)
  3. Cooper Beebe, IOL, Kansas State (IOL4)
  4. Christian Haynes, IOL, UConn (IOL5)
  5. T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State (CB8)
  6. Jonah Elliss, EDGE, Utah (EDGE6)
  7. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida (WR7)
  8. Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington (QB5)
  9. Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma (OT8)
  10. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers (CB9)
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  1. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon (WR8)
  2. Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State (WR9)
  3. Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas (RB2)*
  4. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson (LB3)
  5. Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas (WR10t.)
  6. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan (WR10t.)
  7. Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE, Western Michigan (EDGE7)
  8. Braden Fiske, IDL, Florida State (IDL5)
  9. Ruke Orhorhoro, IDL, Clemson (IDL6)
  10. Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina (WR12)
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  1. Kamren Kinchens, SAF, Miami (SAF3)
  2. Blake Corum, RB, Michigan (RB3)
  3. Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State (TE3)
  4. J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan (QB6)
  5. Ja’Lynn Polk, WR, Washington (WR13)
  6. Kitan Oladapo, SAF, Oregon State (SAF4)
  7. Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington (EDGE8)
  8. Junior Colson, LB, Michigan (LB4)
  9. Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon (CB10t.)
  10. Renardo Green, CB, Florida State (CB10t.)
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  1. Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan (CB12)
  2. Cole Bishop, SAF, Utah (SAF5)
  3. Chris Braswell, EDGE, Alabama (EDGE9)
  4. Michael Hall Jr., IDL, Ohio State (IDL7)
  5. Spencer Rattler, South Carolina (QB7)
  6. Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina (LB5)
  7. Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State (WR14)
  8. Marshawn Lloyd, RB, USC (RB4)
  9. Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama (WR15)
  10. Javon Baker, WR, UCF (WR16)
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  1. Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU (OT9)
  2. Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky (WR17)
  3. Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan (IOL6)*
  4. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, IOL, Georgia (IOL7)
  5. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, SAF, Texas Tech (SAF6)
  6. Christian Jones, OT, Texas (OT10)
  7. Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale (OT11)
  8. Tommy Eichenberg, LB, Ohio State (LB6)
  9. Jaden Hicks, SAF, Washington State (SAF7)
  10. Adisa Isaac, EDGE, Penn State (EDGE10)
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  1. Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (TE4)
  2. Mason McCormick, IOL, South Dakota State (IOL8)
  3. Ray Davis, RB, Kentucky (RB5)
  4. Mekhi Wingo, IDL, LSU (IDL8)
  5. Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State (TE5)
  6. Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky (CB13)
  7. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame (OT12)
  8. Trevin Wallace, LB, Kentucky (LB7)
  9. Brandon Dorlus, IDL, Oregon (IDL9)
T.-100. Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas (EDGE11)
T.-100. Mohamed Kamara, EDGE, Colorado State (EDGE12)
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Excluded:
T’Vondre Sweat, IDL, Texas (IDL4)*
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Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri (CB14)
Malik Washington, WR, Virginia (WR18)
Christian Mahogany, IOL, Boston College (IOL9)
Malik Mustapha, SAF, Wake Forest (SAF8)
Javon Solomon, EDGE, Troy (EDGE13)
Walter Rouse, OT, Oklahoma (OT13)
Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas (IOL10)
Decamerion Richardson, CB, Mississippi State (CB15)
Javon Foster, OT, Missouri (OT14)
D.J. James, CB, Auburn (CB16)
Dominick Puni, IOL, Kansas (IOL11)
Calen Bullock, SAF, USC (SAF9)
Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee (RB6)
Gabriel Murphy, EDGE, UCLA (EDGE14)
Patrick Paul, OT, Houston (OT15)
Erick All, TE, Iowa (TE6)
Nathaniel Watson, LB, Mississippi State (LB8)
Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon (RB7)
Tykee Smith, SAF, Georgia (SAF10)
Brandon Coleman, IOL, TCU (IOL12)
Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State (TE7)
Tyrone Tracy, RB, Purdue (RB8)
J.D. Bertrand, LB, Notre Dame (LB9)
Tyler Davis, IDL, Clemson (IDL10t.)
Fabien Lovett, IDL, Florida State (IDL10t.)
Jordan Magee, LB, Temple (LB10)
Xavier Thomas, EDGE, Clemson (EDGE15)
Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame (CB17)
Evan Williams, SAF, Oregon (SAF11)
DeWayne Carter, IDL, Duke (IDL12)
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2024.04.19 18:55 Thunderblessed63 Bo77: 10 Final Thoughts for the Lions Draft

Bo77: 10 Final Thoughts for the Lions Draft
Ladies and gentlefans, we are officially less than one week away from the grand daddy of them all, the NFL Draft. Well, actually scratch that. Given that Detroit is now good, the Draft is no longer the one shining light, the ultimate hope for redemption it used to be on the Lions calendar. However, it's still a very fun event, and it's always a joy to watch Brad Holmes cook.
Less than one week out, providing some final thoughts, predictions, and such about what I think is in store for the Detroit Lions this next week.
(1.) My prediction for the first-round remains that Detroit selects Missouri DL Darius Robinson
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It's really fun being so far back, because (a) it means you had a great season, and then (b) it makes the mystery of the pick that much more intriguing. Genuinely have no clue who is going to be available when, and people assuming anyone specific is going to be there (at least amongst first-round candidates) is largely just kidding themselves. No one, last year, would have said that both top running backs would've been off the board by 18 and Will McDonald. Teams make surprising selections all the time.
And so to that extent, yes, I could see someone like the Rams, or the Bengals, or the Bucs, or Eagles grabbing Robinson in advance. But I do think that out of all the guys who most consistently tend to be available in that 25-32 pick window, Robinson's probably the most likely to be a Lion, as he's an elite blend of the top priorities that the Lions look for. He's a vocal leader who plays hard and relentless football. He's big, strong, physical, and plays aggressively too. He was very productive last season, with 8.5 sacks and a forced fumble, and showed a lot of versatility to play anywhere from uncovered EDGE down to a 3-technique alignment. Lot of boxes checked, and a really good player.
This isn't to say he's the best pick, or the guy I'd pick, or anything like that. This is just simply saying, predictive measurement wise, Robinson is probably the most sensible prediction at this point.
(2.) And personally, my preference remains the same...
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There's a lot of players I like from the film watch I've done on about thirty different players that reasonably could land in that range. None (besides Duke OL Graham Barton who I'd be flabbergasted if he were available) impressed me more than CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr. from Missouri. He's a feisty, athletic cornerback. Don't care about the testing scores honestly, the film shows he's quite comfortable operating in the fashion the Lions desire from a second cornerback. And that's where I think he'd fit in, probably as more consistent a field cornerback across from Carlton Davis, competing/rotating in with Amik Robertson to give the Lions their best matchup duo.
Additionally, for a Lions team that prides itself on its attitude, toughness, physicality, and effort, you want dudes who can be tone setters on defense, and Rakestraw brings that at a position you usually actually struggle to see that at. And the other thing I love about Rakestraw is that the floor is quite high. Even if the lack of elite deep speed does give him some issues, he's excellent in the slot, and some, such as Chris Simms and myself, also think he could shift over and play safety as well, a similar versatile style of player to Brian Branch and Devon Witherspoon.
Either way, a player who definitely brings the intensity, plays with the stickiness and physicality and smooth feet in press the Lions love, and can step in and compete at a spot of relative need right now. Rakestraw's not a terribly popular choice for Lions fans, but I stick by my take here, whether folks care or not.
For those interested, here is the breakdown of whom I would've selected in the first-round of the past couple of drafts, compared to whom the Lions drafted once they were on the clock. I took out the second first-round pick of the 2022 season because full disclosure, I was not anticipating the move up and was away from the action when it happened, thus I didn't really have the chance to fully settle and make an internal decision prior to the pick happening.
YEAR My Pick Lions Pick Lions GM at the Time
2024 CB Ennis Rakestraw Jr. (Missouri - - - - Brad Holmes
2023 CB Christian Gonzalez (Oregon) RB Jahmyr Gibbs (Alabama) Brad Holmes
2023 CB Deonte Banks (Maryland)* ILB Jack Campbell (Iowa) Brad Holmes
2022 EDGE Aidan Hutchinson (Michigan) EDGE Aidan Hutchinson (Michigan) Brad Holmes
2021 OT Penei Sewell (Oregon) OT Penei Sewell (Oregon) Brad Holmes
2020 CB Jeff Okudah (Ohio State) CB Jeff Okudah (Ohio State) Bob Quinn
2019 EDGE Montez Sweat (Mississippi State) TE T.J. Hockenson (Iowa) Bob Quinn
2018 DT Taven Bryan (Florida) C Frank Ragnow (Arkansas) Bob Quinn
2017 OLB T.J. Watt (Wisconsin) ILB Jarrad Davis (Florida) Bob Quinn
2016 OT Taylor Decker (Ohio State) OT Taylor Decker (Ohio State) Bob Quinn
2015 DT Malcolm Brown (Texas) G Laken Tomlinson (Duke) Martin Mayhew
2014 OT Taylor Lewan (Michigan) TE Eric Ebron (North Carolina) Martin Mayhew
2013 WR Tavon Austin (West Virginia) EDGE Ezekiel Ansah (BYU) Martin Mayhew
2012 OL Kevin Zeitler (Wisconsin) OT Riley Reiff (Iowa) Martin Mayhew
2011 DT Nick Fairley (Auburn) DT Nick Fairley (Auburn) Martin Mayhew
*- the one on Banks is that this pick would've been made after knowing that Holmes had already selected Gibbs earlier. If it were truly me picking both of them, then no, I would not have doubled up on cornerbacks. I would've gone with Bryan Breese, whom the Saints picked up.
(3.) Folks seemed to like my "most likely to draft" player prediction. Here's that for each position...
Every year, I do try and nab a prediction for which one specific player I do think is most likely to land as a Lion. I hit on this one in 2021 and 2023, with Purdue LB Derrick Barnes and then North Carolina WR Antoine Green. 2022 was a miss, as TE Greg Dulcich was a third-round pick for the Broncos, not the Lions. But this year, the player I am projecting here is...
Air Force safety Trey Taylor. Elite blend of on-field scheme fit, great intangibles off the field. Really the whole package. If he doesn't end up a Lion, think it will be because someone else scoops him up before Detroit is able to (or they go safety much sooner). He's a fantastic fit for what Holmes has evaluated and prioritized at that spot. Think he's the most likely player the Lions add.
I do try to aim to keep this as non-early players, so for sure no guys I think will get picked on the first or second day of the draft. This one I am going to expand and do one for each position.
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Position Player School
QB Sam Hartman Notre Dame
RB Jace McClellan Alabama
WR Ryan Flournoy Southeast Missouri St.
TE Tip Reiman Illinois
OT Garret Greenfield South Dakota State
iOL Nathan Thomas Louisiana
DT Jaden Crumedy Mississippi State
EDGE Javon Solomon Troy
LB J.D. Bertrand Notre Dame
CB Elijah Jones Boston College
SAF Sione Vaki Utah
ST/K Joshua Karty Stanford
I added Sione Vaki on there as my second choice safety behind Taylor, as Taylor has already received his accolades though Vaki himself checks off a ton of boxes for Detroit.
(4.) Most of the media predictions tend to center around four guys...
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This is not an aggregate compilation by any means, more just what I note and click on. But the four most common names you see the Lions adding in some of these mocks tend to be:
  • Missouri DL Darius Robinson
  • Iowa CB Cooper DeJean
  • Alabama CB Kool-Aid McKinstry
  • West Virginia C Zach Frazier
Some thoughts real quick... Obviously I am in complete agreement on Darius Robinson being a likely selection for Detroit. That one makes plenty of sense and he checks a majority of the boxes they are going to be gunning for.
As for DeJean, I broke down his fit here for those interested. The short of it, since I frequently get lazy requests of folks who don't have the time to read and learn something, is this:
My final thought: If the Lions are drafting Cooper DeJean to play a cornerback role for them, I have a hard time seeing things going well there, as DeJean's athletic limitations (hips, lateral agility) don't indicate he can play in press coverage regularly enough, but if the Lions are comfortable playing him and Branch dually as slots and nickels, then he's actually a really strong fit in that capacity.
In essence, DeJean can play outside cornerback for some NFL teams, but the Lions scheme is going to highlight the few areas of weakness he actually has in his game, and his upside is much better realized at a position inside or a versatile safety. Will the Lions add him then? Perhaps. I wouldn't rule it out, but I do ultimately just think he goes off the board before the Lions will have a chance to nab him.
I think Kool-Aid's kind of an interesting one. An excellent fit on film, very consistent, really solid in press coverage, great awareness, instincts, and football smart. But while DeJean receives some gushing reviews for his off-field demeanor and such, Kool-Aid's had a mixed bag of reports there, with some teams down on him for that while others don't think it's problematic.
Frazier is an awesome fit and definitely a good fit identity wise with who the Lions are and want to continue being. The issue, in my opinion, is that while I really like both Frazier and Oregon center Jackson Powers-Johnson, I do think both are tougher projections long-term at guard, and thus their value is sort of weighed (in my opinion) to whether or not Frank Ragnow is going to be able to stick it out for another 3-4 years, or if his mounting injury pile pushes him fully into retirement in the next year or so. Both can handle a year or so at guard, but honestly, I don't love Frazier or JPJ as a high-caliber guard. Frazier lacks the length needed there and I think Powers-Johnson struggles handling speedier rushers, which he'd see more of against burst-oriented three-techniques.
(5.) Preference for positions taken? No thanks.
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I genuinely don't have much preference for the positions the Lions take in the first three rounds. I see too many folks getting caught up in the idea that Detroit either has to, or "no way Holmes doesn't grab [pick position] until the fifth round!!!!!" comments. None of that is based in anything much. There's plenty of good options for Detroit.
The only two spots I think it'd be a little odd to see Detroit go early are QB or TE on offense, and then I'd throw in ILB on defense as a third one I don't expect them to touch. I list only those two spots because they are super solid in their top-2 for QB right now, and super solid in their top-3 for the tight end spot. RB probably can go on there, but for a run first team, I do prefer a deep stable, and so wouldn't hate it.
But back to the actual point, the Lions realistically could use a top-3 round pick at a lot of spots...
  • WR: Could use a true X-WR on the outside to step into a big time role fairly early in their career. Lions have Jameson Williams as the only true outside guy who's seen much time right now. DPJ could factor there, but a pick would make sense.
  • OT: The Lions could definitely stand to upgrade that OT3 spot, as injuries along the OL are very common and Matt Nelson signed elsewhere. Not predicting it comes this early, but could see it.
  • G: Obvious one. Lions need some depth here, a potential successor to Kevin Zeitler at RG for next season, though they may think that could be Colby Sorsdal with another season of development.
  • C: Ragnow could easily retire after this season if he gets another significant injury. Glasgow's fine to shift there, but a long-term successor isn't out of the question.
  • DT: McNeill and Reader are a good 1-2 punch, but deep DT rotations are a beautiful thing to have, and there's a lot of guys who fit the type of guy they like there this class.
  • EDGE: The class itself is somewhat lackluster, but we all know they could stand to find a true threat across from Hutchinson.
  • CB: Same as guard. Could be fine right now, could easily stand to add another body there with Amik not a top end player and Davis on an expiring deal.
  • S: Depth there is pretty weak unless you want to pull Branch out of the slot, which he's already a stud at.
So again, don't get too caught up on a specific "needs to address". Besides, remember the draft is about the future, so Holmes should be drafting with 2026 in mind, not aiming to fill in 2024 needs with rookies. That's not a terribly successful solution. The Lions are in a good spot to be forward-thinking when it comes to the Draft. Let them have that kind of trust, they've earned it.
(6.) The draft discourse keeps getting worse and worse every season...
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Not turning this into a full-on rant, but man, as much as I love social media and the rise of draft coverage providing more content, it's also a situation where any moron with a microphone thinks they're an expert. Feels like there's a handful of prospects that have been clear to use to see who really knows ball and who is just watching box scores and taking the lazy narratives. Some brutal, brutal takes out, and the fatigue of all the mediocre content can be overwhelming. Part of that is why I like to keep my draft content Lions-specific and kept a bit more internally here.
Appreciate everyone following along with the stuff I put out. Don't need the affirmations, I've been doing this well before I posted it on Reddit, but it is great to know so many folks do enjoy and appreciate it.
(7.) I think a trade up is a bit more likely than a trade down, but Lions have options either way...
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I've mentioned that I think there's a good group of targets that really fit a Brad Holmes mold and would make just too much sense in terms of trading up. The top four I'd watch are CB Terrion Arnold (Alabama), EDGE Jared Verse (Florida State), iOL Graham Barton (Duke), and then WR Brian Thomas Jr. (LSU).
Specifically, I do think Terrion Arnold is probably the most likely guy the Lions would go up for. As we all know, Brad Holmes is very connected with Alabama and Nick Saban. Arnold has a great relationship with the Saban family overall, and I know he's gotten some excellent reviews from his former head coach as teams have called and asked their opinion on him. Saban's definitely noted that few players take coaching and attention better than Arnold, and I think his fit in man press, his demeanor, and the versatility he brings (boundary, field, slot all options for him), mean that he's probably their top move up target. And I'll go one step further, I would heavily watch the Broncos at #12, Saints at #14, and Seahawks at #16 are all right in front of cornerback needy teams. For me, if the Raiders pass on Arnold at #13, I'd try to move up for him. My sneaking suspicion however, is that if the Chargers do move down from 5th to 11th, their pick is either Taliese Fuaga or Terrion Arnold. Jim Harbaugh thought Arnold was a special player during Michigan's bowl prep to face the Tide.
Now, for those who'd prefer to move down, there's some plausible situations to envision working in the Lions favor:
  • The Carolina Panthers really need some WR help and would probably want to get in front of the Chiefs and maybe 49ers for Xavier Legette.
  • The Washington Commanders have long been rumored to be a team who might try to jump back into the first-round for an offensive tackle. I'd throw the New England Patriots in there as well.
  • We saw Dane Brugler's mock draft has the Las Vegas Raiders coming up from 2.44 to land Michael Penix, trading with Detroit. That's another option.
  • Not as commonly discussed but the Tennessee Titans moving up for a cornerback or edge rusher (probably Kool-Aid McKinstry at corner) would not be a big surprise.
If Holmes wants to move down, obviously it's always easier to simply say it can happen than not, but there are a handful of scenarios that make a lot of sense. He should have some really good options.
(8.) A quick little, What Would Quinntricia Do Mock Draft?
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I did this last year and it was kind of a fun exercise. After tracking draft molds and trends now under two separate regimes, it's interesting to change between them. So, here's a fairly quick run through of a predictive mock draft done according to the tendencies we'd see with Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia at the helm. Now note, I actually thought overall that Quinn was a quality drafter. He had an excellent eye offensively, and was usually proven right on his wild selections in the third-round, uncovering some gems like Kenny Golladay and Tracy Walker there. He had plenty of issues in free agency and in his decision to empower a really brutal vision for the team and scheme under Matt Patricia, but as a scouting/drafting general manager, he was largely solid. So there's some respect for Quinn. There's not a single ounce of respect for Matt Patricia.
For the first-round, Quinn's philosophy was that he'd largely go "best available at the top needed position", so an attempt to somewhat blend the philosophies. This was a successful way to grab OT Taylor Decker, made Jeff Okudah a clear prediction, and made LB Jarrad Davis another really clear prediction by that point in the cycle. Now I would say EDGE outright is the biggest need, but philosophically, Quinn and Patricia believed in paying veteran edge rushers and drafting that position for depth later on to find hits at. So we can cross that one out. Realistically, the top target for Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia likely would have been either offensive line this year or maybe a cornerback. I think CB Kool-Aid McKinstry (Alabama) would have been their guy for sure. Do note, none of this is to knock a player.
Second-round was usually an instant plug at a run-oriented position. He took LBs, RBs, DTs, and then one CB there. So looking at it, probably a DT or OL given their current needs. Quinn actually has a much more defined "type" or mold for OL than Holmes does, and so predicting this one is a bit easier, G Cooper Beebe (Kansas State) fits there really nicely.
The third-round was Quinn's brightest spot. Jonah Jackson, Kenny Golladay, Tracy Walker, Graham Glasgow all really strong adds, and even his worst picks (Julian Okwara, Will Harris) stuck around for a few seasons during the Holmes-Campbell regime. The most common thing that Quinn did, however, was take a bit of a surprise pick there. Will Harris, Tracy Walker, and Kenny Golladay all were projected to land in the 4th-5th rounds, but Quinn took them a good deal earlier to ensure they landed here. I think this same mold, and the Lions roster composition also considered, S Malik Mustapha (Wake Forest) probably fits the Quinn mold best there.
Heading into Day 3 with four picks, Quinn grabbed running backs in four of his five drafts, always grabbed five edge rushers over his time, with only Julian Okwara coming any earlier than the fifth round. For the edge, Quinn and Patricia wanted pocket squeezers, physical run-stopping edge setters with a good bull rush off the edge. That's probably EDGE Trajan Jeffcoat (Arkansas), a Razorback most ironically as well. The running backs tended to be slashers and pass catchers more often on Day 3, and I can confidently say that Quinn would have loved RB Emani Bailey (TCU). You'd also see a handful of possession receivers on Day 3 with size and leaping ability and ability to make contested catches. That's probably WR Bub Means (Pittsburgh) this year. And then Quinn was quite fine with the specialist positions on Day 3, drafting a long snapper and a fullback, as well as two backup quarterbacks with limited upside to become starters. I think he'd have been quite fine adding K Cam Little (Arkansas) this year in the seventh.
Pick Pos. Player School
Round 1, Pick #29 CB Kool-Aid McKinstry Alabama
Round 2, Pick #61 G Cooper Beebe Kansas State
Round 3, Pick #73 S Malik Mustapha Wake Forest
Round 5, Pick #164 WR Bub Means Pittsburgh
Round 6, Pick #201 EDGE Trajan Jeffcoat Arkansas
Round 6, Pick #205 RB Emani Bailey TCU
Round 7, Pick #249 K Cam Little Arkansas
Again, this isn't a knock on the players trying to associate them to Quinn and Patricia, more so just what the draft would probably look like using their molds for the Lions current roster composition.
(9.) I missed a few dudes on my Lions-fit board
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You'll have to forgive me, I still have a different job that takes up most of my time, so I did have a few guys slip through the cracks on the fit board. Should also have Zak Zinter, Javontae Jean-Baptiste, Christian Haynes, Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, and Sione Vaki from there from the second glance I did, and some comments some mentioned.
You can find that full board linked here. I can't seem to edit the post so I cannot add them after the fact it would seem. Not without eliminating the whole post and re-doing it.
You're welcome to @ me on the threads and such during the Draft if they pick anyone I kept off. I'd happily note why I moved them off. And then do note, however, that we are going thru later this summer and doing a deep dive into revising the molds, since we'll be shifting from 2 full Holmes draft classes on those, to now having 4 full draft classes, additional free agency notes to add in, and then also more notes and comments to add in from the draft process reveals (Inside the Den videos).
(10.) Final note: The acclaimed Bo77 Draft Class Scouting Summary post will be out the week following the draft...
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I originally was not going to write this but had the time so wrote it. I will be posting a full seven-round prediction for Detroit this upcoming Thursday morning.
Usually, I was able to pump it out in time to post on a Saturday night or Sunday afternoon. With my new work schedule (Sunday thru Thursday), it might not get finished up until mid-week this year. My apologies for the delay.
But to that note, I am curious what kind of format/info people would like. These are the posts I did for previous drafts:
Let me know what y'all want to see on it. I'd love to add a gif or two but struggling to find a consistently decent free gif maker. If anyone knows a good one, let me know.
Thanks folks, looking forward to another awesome weekend of Lions crushing the NFL Draft.
RESPONSE QUESTIONS
Here's some questions I'd love to hear from y'all:
  • Which Day 3 player would you most want to see end up on the Lions?
  • Which Michigan player would you most want to see on the Lions?
  • Which of the top-5/6 QB's do you think is going to bust?
  • Who is the most underrated player in the draft?
  • Who is the most overrated player in the draft/least want to see on Detroit?
  • Who is the best player you don't think is a good fit for Detroit?
Let's hear 'em.
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2024.04.19 15:06 hallach_halil Halil's top 10 prospects at each position in the 2024 NFL Draft:

Halil's top 10 prospects at each position in the 2024 NFL Draft:
I have spent the last one-and-a-half months going through every position and breaking down the top names at it for the upcoming NFL Draft. Now it’s time to summarize these rankings, adding tiers to throughout each position – indicated by crossing lines.
For the people on here that have followed along for the ride, they understand that I like to go into depth with my analysis, so I hyperlinked the rankings for each position from halilsrealfootballtalk.com, if you want my reasoning on these!
Thank you guys so much for all the kind words and interaction so far - any support or sharing of my work would be greatly appreciated!
At the very bottom, I added a quick question on how I'm going to structure my content going forward. If you had a minute to let me know your thoughts, that would be great!
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Quarterbacks:

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1 Caleb Williams, USC
2 Drake Maye, North Carolina
3 Bo Nix, Oregon
4 Jayden Daniels, LSU
5 Michael Penix Jr., Washington
6 J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
7 Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
8 Jordan Travis, Florida State
9 Michael Pratt, Tulane
10 Devin Leary, Kentucky
HM: Joe Milton (Tennessee)
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Running backs:

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1 Trey Benson, Florida State
2 Jonathon Brooks, Texas
3 Blake Corum, Michigan
4 Marshawn Lloyd, USC
5 Ray Davis, Kentucky
6 Jaylen Wright, Tennessee
7 Bucky Irving, Oregon
8 Tyrone Tracy, Purdue
9 Will Shipley, Clemson
10 Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
HMs: Dillon Johnson (Washington), Audric Estime (Notre Dame) & Jawhar Jordan (Louisville)
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Wide receivers:

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1 Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
2 Malik Nabers, LSU
3 Rome Odunze, Washington
4 Adonai Mitchell, Texas
5 Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
6 Ladd McConkey, Georgia
7 Ricky Pearsall, Florida
8 Troy Franklin, Oregon
9 Keon Coleman, Florida State
T.-10 Xavier Worthy, Texas
T.-10 Roman Wilson, Michigan
HMs: Xavier Legette (South Carolina), Johnny Wilson (Florida State), Ja’Lynn Polk (Washington), Jermaine Burton (Alabama), Javon Baker (UCF), Malachi Corley (Western Kentucky) & Malik Washington (Virginia)
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Tight-ends:

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1 Brock Bowers, Georgia
2 Ja’Tavion Sanders, Texas
3 Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
4 Cade Stover, Ohio State
5 Theo Johnson, Penn State
6 Erick All, Iowa
7 Jaheim Bell, Florida State
8 Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
9 Dallin Holker, Colorado State
10 Tip Reiman, Illinois
HMs: Jared Wiley (TCU), Jack Westover (Washington), McCallan Castles (Tennessee) & A.J. Barner (Michigan)
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Offensive tackles:

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1 Olu Fashanu, Penn State
2 Joe Alt, Notre Dame
3 L.C. Latham, Alabama
4 Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
5 Amarius Mims, Georgia
6 Troy Fautanu, Washington
7 Jordan Morgan, Arizona
8 Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
9 Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
10 Christian Jones, Texas
HMs: Kiran Amegadjie (Yale), Blake Fisher (Notre Dame), Walter Rouse (Oklahoma), Javon Foster (Missouri) & Patrick Paul (Houston)
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Interior O-line:

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1 Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon
2 Graham Barton, Duke
3 Zach Frazier, West Virginia
4 Cooper Beebe, Kansas State
5 Christian Haynes, UConn
6 Zak Zinter, Michigan
7 Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia
8 Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
9 Christian Mahogany, Boston College
10 Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
HMs: Dominick Puni (Kansas), Brandon Coleman (TCU), Tanor Bortolini (Wisconsin) & Hunter Nourzad (Penn State)
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Edge defenders:

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1 Laiatu Latu, UCLA
2 Dallas Turner, Alabama
3 Jared Verse, Florida State
4 Chop Robinson, Penn State
5 Darius Robinson, Missouri
6 Jonah Elliss, Utah
7 Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan
8 Bralen Trice, Washington
9 Chris Braswell, Alabama
10 Adisa Isaac, Penn State
HMs: Austin Booker (Kansas), Mohamed Kamara (Colorado State), Javon Solomon (Troy), Gabriel Murphy (UCLA) & Xavier Thomas (Clemson)
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Interior D-line:

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1 Jer’Zhan Newton, Illinois
2 Byron Murphy II, Texas
3 Kris Jenkins, Michigan
4 T’Vondre Sweat, Texas
5 Braden Fiske, Florida State
6 Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
7 Michael Hall Jr., Ohio State
8 Mekhi Wingo, LSU
9 Brandon Dorlus, Oregon
T.-10 Tyler Davis, Clemson
T.-10 Fabien Lovett, Florida State
HMs: Maason Smith (LSU), Leonard Taylor (Miami), DeWayne Carter (Duke), McKinnley Jackson (Texas A&M) & Khristian Boyd (Northern Iowa)
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Linebackers:

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1 Payton Wilson, N.C. State
2 Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
3 Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
4 Junior Colson, Michigan
5 Cedric Gray, North Carolina
6 Tommy Eichenberg, Ohio State
7 Trevin Wallace, Kentucky
8 Nathaniel Watson, Mississippi State
9 J.D. Bertrand, Notre Dame
10 Jordan Magee, Temple
HMs: Jaylan Ford (Texas), Ty’Ron Hopper (Missouri), Edefuan Ulofoshio (Washington), Marist Liufau (Notre Dame) & Steele Chambers (Ohio State)
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Cornerbacks:

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1 Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
2 Nate Wiggins, Clemson
3 Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
4 Terrion Arnold, Alabama
5 Cooper DeJean, Iowa
6 Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
7 Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
8 T.J. Tampa, Iowa
9 Max Melton, Rutgers
T.-10 Khyree Jackson, Oregon
T.-10 Renardo Green, Florida State
HMs: Mike Sainristil (Michigan), Kris Abrams-Draine (Missouri) & Andru Phillips (Kentucky)
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Safeties:

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1 Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
2 Javon Bullard, Georgia
3 Kamren Kinchens, Miami
4 Kitan Oladapo, Oregon State
5 Cole Bishop, Utah
6 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Texas Tech
7 Jaden Hicks, Washington State
8 Malik Mustapha, Wake Forest
9 Calen Bullock, USC
10 Tykee Smith, Georgia
HMs: Evan Williams (Oregon), Sione Vaki (Utah), Jaylon Carlies (Missouri), Trey Taylor (Air Force) & Dominique Hampton (Washington)
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Now, a quick question on the work I do - as you can imagine, watching 350-400 prospects every year and being as detailed with my analysis can be quite demanding along my day job. So I was thinking about doing just two articles next year - the top 10 prospects at each offensive and defensive position respectively with only the blurb at the end that summarizes the player in 180-250 words. That would free up some time to do a few more videos for Youtube, where I actually take the time to break down the film of a couple of guys.
What do you people think about that?
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If you enjoyed this article, feel free to check out all my written content and/or video material!
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Instagram: @ halilsrealfootballtalk
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2024.04.11 16:59 slcweekender Things to this weekend: April 11 - 14th

I compile a list of everything to do each weekend in the Salt Lake area and send in an email newsletter. In order to avoid self promotion, I post the whole list here - if you find it useful, please consider signing up to receive it in your inbox weekly at https://slcweekender.beehiiv.com/subscribe

Thursday, April 11th:

Friday, April 12th:

Saturday, April 13th:

Sunday, April 14th:

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2024.04.11 08:54 Dos4 5-round mock w/ trades (I had too much time to kill)

R1
  1. CHI - Caleb Williams, QB, USC
  2. WSH - Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
  3. NE - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
  4. ARI - Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State
  5. LAC - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
  6. MIN (via NYG) - J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
  7. TEN - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
  8. ATL - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
  9. CHI - Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
  10. NYJ - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State
  11. NYG (via MIN) - Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
  12. PHI (via DEN) - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
  13. LV - Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
  14. NO - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
  15. IND - Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa
  16. SEA - Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama
  17. JAX - Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU
  18. CIN - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
  19. LAR - Byron Murphy, DT, Texas
  20. PIT - Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
  21. MIA - Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington
  22. DEN (via PHI) - Bo Nix, QB, Oregon
  23. NYG (via MIN) - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama
  24. DAL - Jackson Powers-Johnson, IOL, Oregon
  25. GB - Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois
  26. TB - Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA
  27. ARI - Graham Barton, IOL, Duke
  28. BUF - Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
  29. DET - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
  30. BAL - J.C. Latham, OT, Alabama
  31. SF - Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
  32. KC - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma
R2
  1. CAR - Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
  2. NE - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona
  3. ARI - Darius Robinson, EDGE, Missouri
  4. WSH - Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
  5. LAC - Ennis Rakestraw Jr., CB, Missouri
  6. TEN - Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
  7. JAX (via CAR) - Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
  8. WSH - Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
  9. GB - Payton Wilson, LB, NC State
  10. HOU - Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan
  11. ATL - Chris Braswell, EDGE, Alabama
  12. LV - Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington
  13. NO - Braden Fiske, DT, Florida State
  14. IND - Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas
  15. MIN (via NYG) - Zach Frazier, IOL, West Virginia
  16. CAR (via JAX) - Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington
  17. CIN - Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan
  18. PHI - Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
  19. PIT - Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
  20. LAR - Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE, Western Michigan
  21. DEN (via PHI) - T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State
  22. CLE - Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
  23. MIA - Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
  24. DAL - Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
  25. TB - Cooper Beebe, IOL, Kansas State
  26. GB - Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
  27. HOU - Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
  28. BUF - Maason Smith, DT, LSU
  29. DET - Max Melton, CB, Rutgers
  30. BAL - Ja’Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
  31. SF - Christian Haynes, IOL, UConn
  32. KC - Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida
R3
  1. CAR - Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
  2. ARI - Ruke Orhorhoro, DT, Clemson
  3. WSH - Jonah Elliss, EDGE, Utah
  4. NE - Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
  5. LAC - Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
  6. NYG - Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
  7. ARI - Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee
  8. NYJ - Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami (FL)
  9. DET - Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
  10. ATL - Michael Hall Jr., DT, Ohio State
  11. CHI - Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama
  12. DEN - Adisa Isaac, EDGE, Penn State
  13. LV - Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington
  14. WSH - Cole Bishop, S, Utah
  15. ATL - Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
  16. CIN - Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
  17. SEA - T’Vondre Sweat, DT, Texas
  18. IND - Calen Bullock, S, USC
  19. LAR - Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame
  20. PIT - Dominick Puni, IOL, Kansas
  21. CLE - Leonard Taylor, DT, Miami (FL)
  22. HOU - Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State
  23. DAL - Javon Baker, WR, UCF
  24. GB - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
  25. TB - Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
  26. ARI - Khyree Jackson, CB, Oregon
  27. GB - Christian Mahogany, IOL, Boston College
  28. TB - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
  29. BAL - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE, Oregon
  30. SF - Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
  31. KC - Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest
  32. CAR (via JAX) - Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
  33. CIN - Brenden Rice, WR, USC
  34. PIT - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky
  35. LAR - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State
R4
  1. WSH - D.J. James, CB, Auburn
  2. CAR - Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas
  3. SEA - Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
  4. NE - Mekhi Wingo, DT, LSU
  5. ARI - Malik Washington, WR, Auburn
  6. LAC - Zak Zinter, IOL, Michigan
  7. TEN - Gabriel Murphy, EDGE, UCLA
  8. NYG - Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
  9. MIN - DeWayne Carter, DT, Duke
  10. ATL - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S, Texas Tech
  11. LAC - Roger Rosengarten, OT, Washington
  12. NYJ - Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State
  13. LV - Jarvis Brownlee Jr., CB, Louisville
  14. BAL - Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
  15. JAX - Mohamed Kamara, EDGE, Colorado State
  16. TB (via CIN) - Audric Estime, RB, Notre Dame
  17. JAX - Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
  18. IND - Isaiah Adams, IOL, Illinois
  19. SEA - Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
  20. PIT - Justin Eboigbe, DT, Alabama
  21. PHI - Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State
  22. DEN - Luke McCaffrey, WR, Rice
  23. CHI - McKinnley Jackson, DT, Texas A&M
  24. HOU - Bucky Irving, RB, Oregon
  25. SF - Christian Jones, OT, Texas
  26. CIN (via TB) - Tyler Davis, DT, Clemson
  27. GB - Tykee Smith, S, Georgia
  28. HOU - Beaux Limmer, IOL, Arkansas
  29. BUF - MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC
  30. MIN - Javon Solomon, EDGE, Troy
  31. BAL - Kalen King, CB, Penn State
  32. KC - Will Shipley, RB, Clemson
  33. SF - Tommy Eichenberg, LB, Ohio State
  34. BUF - Josh Newton, CB, TCU
  35. NYJ - Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville
R5
  1. SF - Elijah Jones, CB, Boston College
  2. DEN - Matt Goncalves, OT, Pittsburgh
  3. NE - Jarrian Jones, CB, Florida State
  4. ARI - Trevin Wallace, LB, Kentucky
  5. WSH - Jared Wiley, TE, TCU
  6. LAC - Khristian Boyd, DT, Northern Iowa
  7. CAR - Nehemiah Pritchett, CB, Auburn
  8. JAX (via CAR) - Tanor Bortolini, IOL, Wisconsin
  9. ATL - Jaylan Ford, LB, Texas
  10. BUF - Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest
  11. DEN - Ray Davis, RB, Kentucky
  12. TEN - Gabe Hall, DT, Baylor
  13. PHI (via DEN) - Mason McCormick, IOL, South Dakota State
  14. LV - Sataoa Laumea, IOL, Utah
  15. CIN - Javion Cohen, IOL, Miami (FL)
  16. NO - Garret Greenfield, OT, South Dakota State
  17. IND - Jacob Cowing, WR, Arizona
  18. WSH - Nelson Ceaser, EDGE, Houston
  19. JAX - Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville
  20. LAR - Jordan Travis, QB, Florida State
  21. LAR - Tyrone Tracy Jr., RB, Purdue
  22. CLE - Hunter Nourzad, IOL, Penn State
  23. MIN - Ainias Smith, WR, Texas A&M
  24. MIA - Jordan Jefferson, DT, LSU
  25. KC - Delmar Glaze, IOL, Maryland
  26. BUF - Cedric Johnson, EDGE, Ole Miss
  27. PHI - Brennan Jackson, EDGE, Washington State
  28. ARI - Sione Vaki, S, Utah
  29. BUF - Edefuan Ulofoshio, LB, Washington
  30. DET - Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon State
  31. BAL - Joe Milton, QB, Tennessee
  32. NYG - James Williams, S, Miami (FL)
  33. MIN - Jaylin Simpson, CB, Auburn
  34. NO - Chau Smith-Wade, CB, Washington State
  35. GB - Curtis Jacobs, LB, Penn State
  36. NO - A.J. Barner, TE, Michigan
  37. PHI - Dallin Holker, TE, Colorado State
  38. PHI - Kimani Vidal, RB, Troy
  39. KC - Erick All, TE, Iowa
  40. DAL - Walter Rouse, OT, Oklahoma
  41. NO - Marist Liufau, LB, Notre Dame
TRADES
NYG trades 6, 47 to MIN MIN trades 11, 23 to NYG
DEN trades 12, 147 to PHI PHI trades 22, 53 to DEN
CAR trades 39, 142 to JAX JAX trades 48, 96 to CAR
CIN trades 115, 194 to TB TB trades 125, 2025 R5 to CIN
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2024.04.08 15:09 15GOAT r/Commanders Full 7-Round Sub Mock Draft [RESULTS + UDFA]

Oh you thought this was over? We still need to make some offers to the kids that went undrafted! I have a few other simulators I’ll be processing names through. The way this will work is the most upvoted comment will be our highest priority UDFA and set the multiplier. AP will be doing what’s necessary to make sure the prospect picks Washington. While that pick will have the highest odds, I’ll work my sim/rng magic for all comments to see if they’ll accept our offer or sign elsewhere
I completed the mock draft simulation so you can see who was taken after our 7.222 pick. Jalyx Hunt out of Houston Baptist was our final selection. Thank you to everyone that participated and made this fun. I’ll be responding to comments tomorrow morning to let you know if or where they signed and I’ll have a final post with images of our full haul
1) Caleb Williams, QB USC
2) Drake Maye, QB North Carolina
3) Jayden Daniels, QB LSU
4) Marvin Harrison Jr, WR Ohio State
5) Malik Nabers, WR LSU
6) Rome Odunze, WR Washington
7) Joe Alt, OT Notre Dame
8) Jared Verse, DE FSU
9) Brock Bowers, TE Georgia
10) Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
11) JJ McCarthy, QB Michigan
12) Laiatu Latu, DE UCLA
13) Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
14) Troy Fautanu, OT Washington
15) Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
16) JC Latham, OT Alabama
17) Olu Fashanu, OT Penn State
18) Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
19) Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
20) Amarius Mims, OT Georgia
21) Jer’Zhan Newton, DT Illinois
22) Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
23) Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
24) Tyler Guyton, OT Oklahoma
25) Graham Barton, IOL Duke
26) Nate Wiggins, CB Clemson
27) Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC Oregon
28) Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Chop Robinson, DE Penn State
30) Darius Robinson, DE Missouri
31) Zach Frazier, OC West Virginia
32) Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB Alabama
33) Troy Franklin, WR Oregon
34) Payton Wilson, LB NC State
35) Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
36) Kingsley Suamataia, OT BYU
37) Chris Braswell, DE Alabama
38) Ladd McConkey, WR Georgia
39) Jordan Morgan, OT Arizona
40) Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
41) Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
42) Kamari Lassiter, CB Georgia
43) Roman Wilson, WR Michigan
44) Bo Nix, QB Oregon
45) Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
46) Adisa Isaac, DE Penn State
47) T.J. Tampa, CB Iowa State
48) Ruke Orhorhoro, DI Clemson
49) Ennis Rakestraw Jr, CB Missouri
50) Tyler Nubin, S Minnesota
51) Michael Penix Jr, QB Washington
52) Marshawn Kneeland, DE Western Michigan
53) Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
54) Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
55) Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
56) Bralen Trice, DE Washington
57) Ja’Lynn Polk, WR Washington
58) Jonathan Brooks, HB Texas
59) Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
60) Javon Bullard, S Georgia
61) Jonah Ellis, DE Utah
62) Jalen McMillan, WR Washington
63) Braden Fiske, DI Florida State
64) Jaden Hicks, S Washington State
65) Xavier Worthy, WR Texas
66) Kris Jenkins, DT Michigan
67) Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
68) Austin Booker, DE Kansas
69) Christian Haynes, OG UConn
70) Brandon Dorlus, DI Oregon
71) Max Melton, CB Rutgers
72) Blake Corum, HB Michigan
73) Gabriel Murphy, DE UCLA
74) Blake Fisher, OT Notre Dame
75) T’Vondre Sweat, DT Texas
76) Andru Phillips, CB Kentucky
77) Javon Baker, WR UCF
78) Patrick Paul, OT Houston
79) Kamren Kinchens, S Miami
80) Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
81) Junior Colson, LB Michigan
82) Jaylen Wright, HB Tennessee
83) Michael Pratt, QB Tulane
84) Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
85) Brenden Rice, WR USC
86) Mason McCormick, OG South Dakota State
87) Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina
88) Jamari Thrash, WR Louisville
89) Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB Clemson
90) Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
91) Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College
92) Johnny Wilson, WR Florida State
93) Bucky Irving, HB Oregon
94) Jarrian Jones, CB Florida State
95) Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, CB Texas Tech
96) Trey Benson, HB Florida State
97) Erick All, TE Iowa
98) Ray Davis, HB Kentucky
99) D.J. James, CB Auburn
100) Ben Sinnott, TE Kansas State
101) Calen Bullock, S USC
102) Cooper Beebe, OG Kansas State
103) Tommy Eichenberg, LB Ohio State
104) Dominick Puni, OG Kansas
105) Renardo Green, CB FSU
106) DeWayne Carter, DT Duke
107) Michael Hall Jr, DT Ohio State
108) Kris Abrams-Draine, CB Missouri
109) Matt Goncalves, OT Pittsburgh
110) Jarvis Brownlee Jr, CB Louisville
111) Jacob Cowing, WR Arizona
112) Leonard Taylor III, DT Miami
113) Xavier Thomas, DE Clemson
114) Sione Vaki, S Utah
115) Marist Liufau, LB Notre Dame
116) Tykee Smith, S Georgia
117) Javon Solomon, DE Troy
118) Justin Edoigbe, DE Alabama
119) Elijah Jones, CB Boston College
120) MarShawn Lloyd, HB USC
121) Kamal Hadden, CB Tennessee
122) Audric Estime, HB Notre Dame
123) Malik Washington, WR Virginia
124) Cole Bishop, S Utah
125) Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
126) Tyrone Tracy, HB Purdue
127) Roger Rosengarten, OT Washington
128) McKinnley Jackson, DT Texas A&M
129) Trevor Keegan, OG Michigan
130) Beaux Limmer, OC Arkansas
131) Khristian Boyd, DT Northern Iowa
132) Cedric Gray, LB North Carolina
133) Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
134) Sataoa Laumea, OT Utah
135) Cam Hart, CB Notre Dame
136) Mohamed Kamara, DE Colorado State
137) Caelen Carson, CB Wake Forest
138) Braelen Allen, HB Wisconsin
139) Zak Zinter, OG Michigan
140) Cornelius Johnson, WR Michigan
141) Theo Johnson, TE Penn State
142) Grayson Murphy, DE UCLA
143) Maason Smith, DT LSU
144) Will Shipley, HB Clemson
145) Beau Brade, S Maryland
146) Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, WR Georgia
147) Isaac Guerendo, HB Louisville
148) Josh Newton, CB TCU
149) Dallin Holker, TE Colorado State
150) Christian Jones, OT Texas
151) Tahj Washington, WR USC
152) Trevin Wallace, LB Kentucky
153) Chau Smith-Wade, CB Washington State
154) Nelson Caesar, DE Houston
155) Joe Milton III, QB Tennessee
156) J.D. Bertrand, LB Notre Dame
157) Logan Lee, DI Iowa
158) Austin Reed, QB Western Kentucky
159) Isaiah Williams, WR Illinois
160) Javon Foster, OT Missouri
161) Michael Barrett, LB Michigan
162) Braiden McGregor, DE Michigan
163) Tyler Davis, DT Clemson
164) Jordan Travis, QB Florida State
165) Kalen King, CB Penn State
166) Jalen Sundell, OT North Dakota State
167) Malik Mustapha, S Wake Forest
168) Myles Murphy, DT North Carolina
169) Walter Rouse, OT Oklahoma
170) Jaylen Harrell, DE Michigan
171) Luke McCaffrey, WR Rice
172) Isaiah Adams, OT Illinois
173) Nehemiah Pritchett, CB Auburn
174) Mekhi Wingo, DT LSU
175) Casey Washington, WR Illinois
176) LaDarius Henderson, OT Michigan
177) A.J. Barner, TE Michigan
178) Drake Nugent, OC Michigan
179) Tarheeb Still, CB Maryland
180) Dwight McGlothern, CB Arkansas
181) Jared Wiley, TE TCU
182) M.J. Devonshire, CB Pittsburgh
183) James Williams, S/LB Miami
184) Jaheim Bell, TE Florida State
185) Jaylin Simpson, CB/S Auburn
186) Justin Rogers, DT Auburn
187) Jordan Jefferson, DT LSU
188) De’Corian Clark, WR UTSA
189) Dylan Laube, HB New Hampshire
190) Jowon Briggs, DT Cincinnati
191) Jalen Green, DE James Madison
192) Steele Chambers, LB Ohio State
193) Nathan Thomas, OT Louisiana
194) Kimani Vidal, HB Troy
195) Julian Pearl, OT Illinois
196) Dillon Johnson, HB Washington
197) Kitan Oladapo, S Oregon State
198) Marcus Harris, DT Auburn
199) Solomon Byrd, DE USC
200) Hunter Nourzad, OC Penn State
201) Ethan Driskell, OT Marshall
202) Jaylan Ford, LB Texas
203) Joshua Cephus, WR UTSA
204) Caedan Wallace, OT Penn State
205) Tip Reiman, TE Illinois
206) Ty’Ron Hopper, LB Missouri
207) Josh Wallace, CB Michigan
208) Anthony Gould, WR Oregon State
209) Zion Logue, DT Georgia
210) Jordan Whittington, WR Texas
211) David White Jr, WR Western Carolina
212) Johnny Dixon, CB Penn State
213) Andrew Coker, OT TCU
214) Brennan Jackson, DE Washington State
215) Daijahn Anthony, S Mississippi
216) Sam Hartman, QB Notre Dame
217) Myles Harden, CB South Dakota
218) Frank Gore Jr, HB Southern Mississippi
219) Omar Brown, S Nebraska
220) Miyan Williams, HB Ohio State
221) Daequan Hardy, CB Penn State
222) Jalyx Hunt, DE Houston Baptist
223) Trent Jones, OT Michigan
224) Donovan Jennings, OT USF
225) Willie Roberts, CB Louisiana Tech
226) Tanor Bortolini, OC Wisconsin
227) Decamerion Richardson, CB Mississippi
228) Zakhiri Franklin, WR Mississippi
229) Keith Randolph Jr, DT Illinois
230) Dominique Hampton, S Washington
231) Dylan McMahon, OC North Carolina State
232) Trey Taylor, S Air Force
233) Darius Muasau, LB UCLA
234) C.J. Hanson, CB Holy Cross
235) Isaiah Davis, HB South Dakota State
236) Anim Dankwah, OT Howard
237) Jase McClellan, HB Alabama
238) Tanner McLachlan, TE Arizona
239) Brandon Coleman, OT/G TCU
240) Cedric Johnson, DE Mississippi
241) Marcellas Dial, CB South Carolina
242) K.T. Leveston, OT Kansas State
243) Trey Knox, TE South Carolina
244) Curtis Jacobs, LB Penn State
245) Deshaun Fenwick, HB Oregon State
246) Taulia Tagovailoa, QB Maryland
247) Evan Anderson, DT Florida Atlantic
248) Tyler Owens, S Texas Tech
249) J.J. Weaver, DE Kentucky
250) Josiah Ezirim, OT Eastern Kentucky
251) Delmar Glaze, OG/T Maryland
252) Zion Tupuola-Fetui, DE Washington
253) Dallas Gant, LB Toledo
254) Jaden Crumedy, DT Mississippi State
255) Tyrice Knight, LB UTEP
256) Devin Leary, QB Kentucky
257) Andrew Raym, OC Oklahoma
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2024.04.07 23:43 Cabo_Refugee So many Mormons are cheated out of a good marriage.

Yesterday I was in a restaurant and that Tracy Chapman's song "Fast Car" was playing over the PA. I know that song is now, unbelievably to me, back on the charts. Great song. Loved the original. If you've never listened to the lyrics, it's about a girl in a bad living situation and trying to escape from an abusive alcoholic father and the cycle of poverty. She's convinced the guy she is steady with, (who has a fast car) is her ticket out of the situation. Looks like a guy who is going places. Says all the right things. Has big dreams just like her. And has a really cool car that outwardly expresses that. (I always envisioned that dude Joe from the LDS film "The Phonecall" and his 69 camaro in primer) - - So they leave and go off to live their dream only for the cycle of poverty to continue. Unfillfilled dreams and promises. She works to make their bills while "he's still looking for work." He's out drinking and spending time with friends and neglecting his family/kids. Just a gritty illustration the cycle repeating.
In the LDS culture surrounding marriage, it can be, and is often, a formality. (I've heard of the conveyor belt assembly line weddings on Saturdays at Utah temples.) With the church and culture pushing you to hurry up and get things done and check boxes, (get that eagle scout award, go on a mission, don't delay marriage, don't delay having kids) marriage becomes weakened as people don't take the time to court and know each other like you're supposed to. Doesn't help that the official teaching was, "any two faithful members can have a successful marriage. Don't wait!" The Fast Car in this scenario could be "He has the priesthood and he's a return missionary. We can get married in the temple like I promised as a primary kid." Lots of hopes and dreams there. And with so much purity culture; a rush to have sex. Next thing you know, you both are 35, have 5 kids, church callings weighing you down, and you absolutely can't stand each other. You stay together and keep it civil, "for the kids" and maybe, you'll like each other in the Celestial Kingdom. Their kids will likely repeat the same thing, if they stay in the church.
Well, I'm a product of two kids who rushed into marriage and quickly found out they were not compatible. But a baby was on the way. So, what are you going to do? Misery loves company so accept this life and have more kids!!!! They'll be celebrating 52 years of misery this year. Salt Lake City Temple sealed! My mom really thought my dad was gonna be a strong provider and stalwart in the church. My dad, a recently returned missionary, was taken with my mom's beauty not realizing she has almost no personality or identity outside of church stuff. They hsve NOTHING in common. Disparity in Mormon values and financial sensibilities. It all led to living in a home similar to the parents in "American Beauty." There were a lot of times both my parents wanted to tell the other, "take your fast car and keep on driving."
I feel I'm rambling. I just feel a lot of couples are getting cheated out of a good marriage experience. It's an abuse and a perversion of marriage. And I have no way to prove this but I wonder if all these divorces we see because someone lost their faith, is rooted in two people who should've never married anyway. Rush to check that box. Not a criticism of the people. It's the church that causes all this. That fast car was so convincing it would all go to plan.
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2024.04.07 15:19 15GOAT r/Commanders Full 7-Round Sub Mock Draft [Round 7 Pick 222]

Day 9 of 9

Welcome to Round 7, the final round of the 2024 NFL Draft. With our second to last draft selection, we add another Kentucky LB to our front seven. Trevin Wallace was the selection on Day 8 of 9 giving the Commanders their second defensive player in the draft along with Khyree Jackson. Who will we take with our final pick in this collaborative Commanders draft?
For the last 9 days, I made post to get a majority vote on who we should select. Our daily selections have been plugged into a simulator that stayed up for the duration. This is the final day so make those votes count. Whichever comment gets the most votes will be our draft selection. Voting will close around 12PM EST the following day and the final results will be up shortly after
1) Caleb Williams, QB USC
2) Drake Maye, QB North Carolina
3) Jayden Daniels, QB LSU
4) Marvin Harrison Jr, WR Ohio State
5) Malik Nabers, WR LSU
6) Rome Odunze, WR Washington
7) Joe Alt, OT Notre Dame
8) Jared Verse, DE FSU
9) Brock Bowers, TE Georgia
10) Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
11) JJ McCarthy, QB Michigan
12) Laiatu Latu, DE UCLA
13) Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
14) Troy Fautanu, OT Washington
15) Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
16) JC Latham, OT Alabama
17) Olu Fashanu, OT Penn State
18) Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
19) Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
20) Amarius Mims, OT Georgia
21) Jer’Zhan Newton, DT Illinois
22) Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
23) Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
24) Tyler Guyton, OT Oklahoma
25) Graham Barton, IOL Duke
26) Nate Wiggins, CB Clemson
27) Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC Oregon
28) Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Chop Robinson, DE Penn State
30) Darius Robinson, DE Missouri
31) Zach Frazier, OC West Virginia
32) Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB Alabama
33) Troy Franklin, WR Oregon
34) Payton Wilson, LB NC State
35) Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
36) Kingsley Suamataia, OT BYU
37) Chris Braswell, DE Alabama
38) Ladd McConkey, WR Georgia
39) Jordan Morgan, OT Arizona
40) Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
41) Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
42) Kamari Lassiter, CB Georgia
43) Roman Wilson, WR Michigan
44) Bo Nix, QB Oregon
45) Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
46) Adisa Isaac, DE Penn State
47) T.J. Tampa, CB Iowa State
48) Ruke Orhorhoro, DI Clemson
49) Ennis Rakestraw Jr, CB Missouri
50) Tyler Nubin, S Minnesota
51) Michael Penix Jr, QB Washington
52) Marshawn Kneeland, DE Western Michigan
53) Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
54) Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
55) Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
56) Bralen Trice, DE Washington
57) Ja’Lynn Polk, WR Washington
58) Jonathan Brooks, HB Texas
59) Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
60) Javon Bullard, S Georgia
61) Jonah Ellis, DE Utah
62) Jalen McMillan, WR Washington
63) Braden Fiske, DI Florida State
64) Jaden Hicks, S Washington State
65) Xavier Worthy, WR Texas
66) Kris Jenkins, DT Michigan
67) Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
68) Austin Booker, DE Kansas
69) Christian Haynes, OG UConn
70) Brandon Dorlus, DI Oregon
71) Max Melton, CB Rutgers
72) Blake Corum, HB Michigan
73) Gabriel Murphy, DE UCLA
74) Blake Fisher, OT Notre Dame
75) T’Vondre Sweat, DT Texas
76) Andru Phillips, CB Kentucky
77) Javon Baker, WR UCF
78) Patrick Paul, OT Houston
79) Kamren Kinchens, S Miami
80) Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
81) Junior Colson, LB Michigan
82) Jaylen Wright, HB Tennessee
83) Michael Pratt, QB Tulane
84) Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
85) Brenden Rice, WR USC
86) Mason McCormick, OG South Dakota State
87) Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina
88) Jamari Thrash, WR Louisville
89) Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB Clemson
90) Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
91) Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College
92) Johnny Wilson, WR Florida State
93) Bucky Irving, HB Oregon
94) Jarrian Jones, CB Florida State
95) Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, CB Texas Tech
96) Trey Benson, HB Florida State
97) Erick All, TE Iowa
98) Ray Davis, HB Kentucky
99) D.J. James, CB Auburn
100) Ben Sinnott, TE Kansas State
101) Calen Bullock, S USC
102) Cooper Beebe, OG Kansas State
103) Tommy Eichenberg, LB Ohio State
104) Dominick Puni, OG Kansas
105) Renardo Green, CB FSU
106) DeWayne Carter, DT Duke
107) Michael Hall Jr, DT Ohio State
108) Kris Abrams-Draine, CB Missouri
109) Matt Goncalves, OT Pittsburgh
110) Jarvis Brownlee Jr, CB Louisville
111) Jacob Cowing, WR Arizona
112) Leonard Taylor III, DT Miami
113) Xavier Thomas, DE Clemson
114) Sione Vaki, S Utah
115) Marist Liufau, LB Notre Dame
116) Tykee Smith, S Georgia
117) Javon Solomon, DE Troy
118) Justin Edoigbe, DE Alabama
119) Elijah Jones, CB Boston College
120) MarShawn Lloyd, HB USC
121) Kamal Hadden, CB Tennessee
122) Audric Estime, HB Notre Dame
123) Malik Washington, WR Virginia
124) Cole Bishop, S Utah
125) Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
126) Tyrone Tracy, HB Purdue
127) Roger Rosengarten, OT Washington
128) McKinnley Jackson, DT Texas A&M
129) Trevor Keegan, OG Michigan
130) Beaux Limmer, OC Arkansas
131) Khristian Boyd, DT Northern Iowa
132) Cedric Gray, LB North Carolina
133) Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
134) Sataoa Laumea, OT Utah
135) Cam Hart, CB Notre Dame
136) Mohamed Kamara, DE Colorado State
137) Caelen Carson, CB Wake Forest
138) Braelen Allen, HB Wisconsin
139) Zak Zinter, OG Michigan
140) Cornelius Johnson, WR Michigan
141) Theo Johnson, TE Penn State
142) Grayson Murphy, DE UCLA
143) Maason Smith, DT LSU
144) Will Shipley, HB Clemson
145) Beau Brade, S Maryland
146) Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, WR Georgia
147) Isaac Guerendo, HB Louisville
148) Josh Newton, CB TCU
149) Dallin Holker, TE Colorado State
150) Christian Jones, OT Texas
151) Tahj Washington, WR USC
152) Trevin Wallace, LB Kentucky
153) Chau Smith-Wade, CB Washington State
154) Nelson Caesar, DE Houston
155) Joe Milton III, QB Tennessee
156) J.D. Bertrand, LB Notre Dame
157) Logan Lee, DI Iowa
158) Austin Reed, QB Western Kentucky
159) Isaiah Williams, WR Illinois
160) Javon Foster, OT Missouri
161) Michael Barrett, LB Michigan
162) Braiden McGregor, DE Michigan
163) Tyler Davis, DT Clemson
164) Jordan Travis, QB Florida State
165) Kalen King, CB Penn State
166) Jalen Sundell, OT North Dakota State
167) Malik Mustapha, S Wake Forest
168) Myles Murphy, DT North Carolina
169) Walter Rouse, OT Oklahoma
170) Jaylen Harrell, DE Michigan
171) Luke McCaffrey, WR Rice
172) Isaiah Adams, OT Illinois
173) Nehemiah Pritchett, CB Auburn
174) Mekhi Wingo, DT LSU
175) Casey Washington, WR Illinois
176) LaDarius Henderson, OT Michigan
177) A.J. Barner, TE Michigan
178) Drake Nugent, OC Michigan
179) Tarheeb Still, CB Maryland
180) Dwight McGlothern, CB Arkansas
181) Jared Wiley, TE TCU
182) M.J. Devonshire, CB Pittsburgh
183) James Williams, S/LB Miami
184) Jaheim Bell, TE Florida State
185) Jaylin Simpson, CB/S Auburn
186) Justin Rogers, DT Auburn
187) Jordan Jefferson, DT LSU
188) De’Corian Clark, WR UTSA
189) Dylan Laube, HB New Hampshire
190) Jowon Briggs, DT Cincinnati
191) Jalen Green, DE James Madison
192) Steele Chambers, LB Ohio State
193) Nathan Thomas, OT Louisiana
194) Kimani Vidal, HB Troy
195) Julian Pearl, OT Illinois
196) Dillon Johnson, HB Washington
197) Kitan Oladapo, S Oregon State
198) Marcus Harris, DT Auburn
199) Solomon Byrd, DE USC
200) Hunter Nourzad, OC Penn State
201) Ethan Driskell, OT Marshall
202) Jaylan Ford, LB Texas
203) Joshua Cephus, WR UTSA
204) Caedan Wallace, OT Penn State
205) Tip Reiman, TE Illinois
206) Ty’Ron Hopper, LB Missouri
207) Josh Wallace, CB Michigan
208) Anthony Gould, WR Oregon State
209) Zion Logue, DT Georgia
210) Jordan Whittington, WR Texas
211) David White Jr, WR Western Carolina
212) Johnny Dixon, CB Penn State
213) Andrew Coker, OT TCU
214) Brennan Jackson, DE Washington State
215) Daijahn Anthony, S Mississippi
216) Sam Hartman, QB Notre Dame
217) Myles Harden, CB South Dakota
218) Frank Gore Jr, HB Southern Mississippi
219) Omar Brown, S Nebraska
220) Miyan Williams, HB Ohio State
221) Daequan Hardy, CB Penn State
222)

With the 222nd pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders select…

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2024.04.06 16:44 15GOAT r/Commanders Full 7-Round Sub Mock Draft [Round 5 Pick 152]

Day 8 of 9

We certainly have a more stout OL to protect Drake Maye after yesterday in the war room. Zak Zinter was the selection on Day 7 of 9. The Michigan guard jumps into a now-younger oline with Kingsley Suamataia and Patrick Paul. Who will we take with our next pick in this collaborative Commanders draft?
Every day until we complete our draft, I’ll make a post to get a majority vote on who we should select. I’ll be inputting our selection into a simulator that’ll stay up for the duration and I’ll post those results so a decision can be made for the next selection
Each post will have the previous selections made and 0-3 trade offers. Whichever comment gets the most upvotes by 12PM EST the following day will be our selection. If one of the trade offers gets the most upvotes, that will be processed and incorporated into the draft posts moving forward
1) Caleb Williams, QB USC
2) Drake Maye, QB North Carolina
3) Jayden Daniels, QB LSU
4) Marvin Harrison Jr, WR Ohio State
5) Malik Nabers, WR LSU
6) Rome Odunze, WR Washington
7) Joe Alt, OT Notre Dame
8) Jared Verse, DE FSU
9) Brock Bowers, TE Georgia
10) Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
11) JJ McCarthy, QB Michigan
12) Laiatu Latu, DE UCLA
13) Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
14) Troy Fautanu, OT Washington
15) Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
16) JC Latham, OT Alabama
17) Olu Fashanu, OT Penn State
18) Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
19) Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
20) Amarius Mims, OT Georgia
21) Jer’Zhan Newton, DT Illinois
22) Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
23) Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
24) Tyler Guyton, OT Oklahoma
25) Graham Barton, IOL Duke
26) Nate Wiggins, CB Clemson
27) Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC Oregon
28) Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Chop Robinson, DE Penn State
30) Darius Robinson, DE Missouri
31) Zach Frazier, OC West Virginia
32) Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB Alabama
33) Troy Franklin, WR Oregon
34) Payton Wilson, LB NC State
35) Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
36) Kingsley Suamataia, OT BYU
37) Chris Braswell, DE Alabama
38) Ladd McConkey, WR Georgia
39) Jordan Morgan, OT Arizona
40) Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
41) Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
42) Kamari Lassiter, CB Georgia
43) Roman Wilson, WR Michigan
44) Bo Nix, QB Oregon
45) Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
46) Adisa Isaac, DE Penn State
47) T.J. Tampa, CB Iowa State
48) Ruke Orhorhoro, DI Clemson
49) Ennis Rakestraw Jr, CB Missouri
50) Tyler Nubin, S Minnesota
51) Michael Penix Jr, QB Washington
52) Marshawn Kneeland, DE Western Michigan
53) Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
54) Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
55) Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
56) Bralen Trice, DE Washington
57) Ja’Lynn Polk, WR Washington
58) Jonathan Brooks, HB Texas
59) Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
60) Javon Bullard, S Georgia
61) Jonah Ellis, DE Utah
62) Jalen McMillan, WR Washington
63) Braden Fiske, DI Florida State
64) Jaden Hicks, S Washington State
65) Xavier Worthy, WR Texas
66) Kris Jenkins, DT Michigan
67) Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
68) Austin Booker, DE Kansas
69) Christian Haynes, OG UConn
70) Brandon Dorlus, DI Oregon
71) Max Melton, CB Rutgers
72) Blake Corum, HB Michigan
73) Gabriel Murphy, DE UCLA
74) Blake Fisher, OT Notre Dame
75) T’Vondre Sweat, DT Texas
76) Andru Phillips, CB Kentucky
77) Javon Baker, WR UCF
78) Patrick Paul, OT Houston
79) Kamren Kinchens, S Miami
80) Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
81) Junior Colson, LB Michigan
82) Jaylen Wright, HB Tennessee
83) Michael Pratt, QB Tulane
84) Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
85) Brenden Rice, WR USC
86) Mason McCormick, OG South Dakota State
87) Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina
88) Jamari Thrash, WR Louisville
89) Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB Clemson
90) Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
91) Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College
92) Johnny Wilson, WR Florida State
93) Bucky Irving, HB Oregon
94) Jarrian Jones, CB Florida State
95) Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, CB Texas Tech
96) Trey Benson, HB Florida State
97) Erick All, TE Iowa
98) Ray Davis, HB Kentucky
99) D.J. James, CB Auburn
100) Ben Sinnott, TE Kansas State
101) Calen Bullock, S USC
102) Cooper Beebe, OG Kansas State
103) Tommy Eichenberg, LB Ohio State
104) Dominick Puni, OG Kansas
105) Renardo Green, CB FSU
106) DeWayne Carter, DT Duke
107) Michael Hall Jr, DT Ohio State
108) Kris Abrams-Draine, CB Missouri
109) Matt Goncalves, OT Pittsburgh
110) Jarvis Brownlee Jr, CB Louisville
111) Jacob Cowing, WR Arizona
112) Leonard Taylor III, DT Miami
113) Xavier Thomas, DE Clemson
114) Sione Vaki, S Utah
115) Marist Liufau, LB Notre Dame
116) Tykee Smith, S Georgia
117) Javon Solomon, DE Troy
118) Justin Edoigbe, DE Alabama
119) Elijah Jones, CB Boston College
120) MarShawn Lloyd, HB USC
121) Kamal Hadden, CB Tennessee
122) Audric Estime, HB Notre Dame
123) Malik Washington, WR Virginia
124) Cole Bishop, S Utah
125) Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
126) Tyrone Tracy, HB Purdue
127) Roger Rosengarten, OT Washington
128) McKinnley Jackson, DT Texas A&M
129) Trevor Keegan, OG Michigan
130) Beaux Limmer, OC Arkansas
131) Khristian Boyd, DT Northern Iowa
132) Cedric Gray, LB North Carolina
133) Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
134) Sataoa Laumea, OT Utah
135) Cam Hart, CB Notre Dame
136) Mohamed Kamara, DE Colorado State
137) Caelen Carson, CB Wake Forest
138) Braelen Allen, HB Wisconsin
139) Zak Zinter, OG Michigan
140) Cornelius Johnson, WR Michigan
141) Theo Johnson, TE Penn State
142) Grayson Murphy, DE UCLA
143) Maason Smith, DT LSU
144) Will Shipley, HB Clemson
145) Beau Brade, S Maryland
146) Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, WR Georgia
147) Isaac Guerendo, HB Louisville
148) Josh Newton, CB TCU
149) Dallin Holker, TE Colorado State
150) Christian Jones, OT Texas
151) Tahj Washington, WR USC
152)
Trade offer(s)
A) WSH receives 7.224, 7.237, 2025 6th & CIN receives 5.152

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2024.04.05 17:11 15GOAT r/Commanders Full 7-Round Sub Mock Draft [Round 5 Pick 139]

Day 7 of 9

Another close battle in the war room. The votes have stalled and haven’t changed in the last few hours so I went ahead and processed the pick. There were many vocal for Cooper Beebe, but the votes fell short. The Commanders selected another weapon for Drake Maye by drafting Ben Sinnott out of Kansas State on Day 6 of 9. We don’t have a 4th round pick so be prepared to see a lot of great names come off the board. Who will we take with our next pick in this collaborative Commanders draft?
Every day until we complete our draft, I’ll make a post to get a majority vote on who we should select. I’ll be inputting our selection into a simulator that’ll stay up for the duration and I’ll post those results so a decision can be made for the next selection
Each post will have the previous selections made and 0-3 trade offers. Whichever comment gets the most upvotes by 12PM EST the following day will be our selection. If one of the trade offers gets the most upvotes, that will be processed and incorporated into the draft posts moving forward
1) Caleb Williams, QB USC
2) Drake Maye, QB North Carolina
3) Jayden Daniels, QB LSU
4) Marvin Harrison Jr, WR Ohio State
5) Malik Nabers, WR LSU
6) Rome Odunze, WR Washington
7) Joe Alt, OT Notre Dame
8) Jared Verse, DE FSU
9) Brock Bowers, TE Georgia
10) Taliese Fuaga, OT Oregon State
11) JJ McCarthy, QB Michigan
12) Laiatu Latu, DE UCLA
13) Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
14) Troy Fautanu, OT Washington
15) Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
16) JC Latham, OT Alabama
17) Olu Fashanu, OT Penn State
18) Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
19) Dallas Turner, DE Alabama
20) Amarius Mims, OT Georgia
21) Jer’Zhan Newton, DT Illinois
22) Brian Thomas Jr, WR LSU
23) Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
24) Tyler Guyton, OT Oklahoma
25) Graham Barton, IOL Duke
26) Nate Wiggins, CB Clemson
27) Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC Oregon
28) Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
29) Chop Robinson, DE Penn State
30) Darius Robinson, DE Missouri
31) Zach Frazier, OC West Virginia
32) Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB Alabama
33) Troy Franklin, WR Oregon
34) Payton Wilson, LB NC State
35) Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
36) Kingsley Suamataia, OT BYU
37) Chris Braswell, DE Alabama
38) Ladd McConkey, WR Georgia
39) Jordan Morgan, OT Arizona
40) Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
41) Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
42) Kamari Lassiter, CB Georgia
43) Roman Wilson, WR Michigan
44) Bo Nix, QB Oregon
45) Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
46) Adisa Isaac, DE Penn State
47) T.J. Tampa, CB Iowa State
48) Ruke Orhorhoro, DI Clemson
49) Ennis Rakestraw Jr, CB Missouri
50) Tyler Nubin, S Minnesota
51) Michael Penix Jr, QB Washington
52) Marshawn Kneeland, DE Western Michigan
53) Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
54) Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
55) Ja’Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
56) Bralen Trice, DE Washington
57) Ja’Lynn Polk, WR Washington
58) Jonathan Brooks, HB Texas
59) Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
60) Javon Bullard, S Georgia
61) Jonah Ellis, DE Utah
62) Jalen McMillan, WR Washington
63) Braden Fiske, DI Florida State
64) Jaden Hicks, S Washington State
65) Xavier Worthy, WR Texas
66) Kris Jenkins, DT Michigan
67) Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
68) Austin Booker, DE Kansas
69) Christian Haynes, OG UConn
70) Brandon Dorlus, DI Oregon
71) Max Melton, CB Rutgers
72) Blake Corum, HB Michigan
73) Gabriel Murphy, DE UCLA
74) Blake Fisher, OT Notre Dame
75) T’Vondre Sweat, DT Texas
76) Andru Phillips, CB Kentucky
77) Javon Baker, WR UCF
78) Patrick Paul, OT Houston
79) Kamren Kinchens, S Miami
80) Devontez Walker, WR North Carolina
81) Junior Colson, LB Michigan
82) Jaylen Wright, HB Tennessee
83) Michael Pratt, QB Tulane
84) Malachi Corley, WR Western Kentucky
85) Brenden Rice, WR USC
86) Mason McCormick, OG South Dakota State
87) Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina
88) Jamari Thrash, WR Louisville
89) Jeremiah Trotter Jr, LB Clemson
90) Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
91) Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College
92) Johnny Wilson, WR Florida State
93) Bucky Irving, HB Oregon
94) Jarrian Jones, CB Florida State
95) Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, CB Texas Tech
96) Trey Benson, HB Florida State
97) Erick All, TE Iowa
98) Ray Davis, HB Kentucky
99) D.J. James, CB Auburn
100) Ben Sinnott, TE Kansas State
101) Calen Bullock, S USC
102) Cooper Beebe, OG Kansas State
103) Tommy Eichenberg, LB Ohio State
104) Dominick Puni, OG Kansas
105) Renardo Green, CB FSU
106) DeWayne Carter, DT Duke
107) Michael Hall Jr, DT Ohio State
108) Kris Abrams-Draine, CB Missouri
109) Matt Goncalves, OT Pittsburgh
110) Jarvis Brownlee Jr, CB Louisville
111) Jacob Cowing, WR Arizona
112) Leonard Taylor III, DT Miami
113) Xavier Thomas, DE Clemson
114) Sione Vaki, S Utah
115) Marist Liufau, LB Notre Dame
116) Tykee Smith, S Georgia
117) Javon Solomon, DE Troy
118) Justin Edoigbe, DE Alabama
119) Elijah Jones, CB Boston College
120) MarShawn Lloyd, HB USC
121) Kamal Hadden, CB Tennessee
122) Audric Estime, HB Notre Dame
123) Malik Washington, WR Virginia
124) Cole Bishop, S Utah
125) Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
126) Tyrone Tracy, HB Purdue
127) Roger Rosengarten, OT Washington
128) McKinnley Jackson, DT Texas A&M
129) Trevor Keegan, OG Michigan
130) Beaux Limmer, OC Arkansas
131) Khristian Boyd, DT Northern Iowa
132) Cedric Gray, LB North Carolina
133) Ainias Smith, WR Texas A&M
134) Sataoa Laumea, OT Utah
135) Cam Hart, CB Notre Dame
136) Mohamed Kamara, DE Colorado State
137) Caelen Carson, CB Wake Forest
138) Braelen Allen, HB Wisconsin
139)
Trade offer(s)
A) WSH receives 7.220, 2025 4th & TB receives 5.139
B) WSH receives Ivan Pace Jr, 2025 5th & MIN receives 5.139, 2024 3rd, Ricky Stromberg
C) WSH receives 5.176, 7.211 & SF receives 5.139

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2024.03.29 04:53 kimjongcarti 7 Round Mock Draft w/ Trades - Post Free Agency

Trades
Trade 1 - MIN sends 11, 23 to LAC for 5, 105
Trade 2 - NYJ sends 10, 111 to ATL for 8
Trade 3 - DAL sends 24, 87 to LAR for 19
Trade 4 - CAR sends 33, 101 to AZ for 27
Trade 5 - LV sends 44, 77 to BAL for 30
Trade 6 - PIT sends 51, 119 to NO for 45
Trade 7 - LAR sends 83, 196 to ATL for 79

Round 1
1.01 - CHI via CAR - Caleb Williams, QB USC
1.02 - WAS - Jayden Daniels, QB LSU
1.03 - NE - Drake Maye, QB UNC
1.04 - AZ - Marvin Harrison Jr., WR Ohio State
1.05 - MIN via LAC (Trade 1) - JJ McCarthy, QB Michigan
1.06 - NYG - Rome Odunze, WR Washington
1.07 - TEN - Joe Alt, OT Notre Dame
1.08 - NYJ via ATL (Trade 2) - Malik Nabers, WR LSU
1.09 - CHI - Dallas Turner, EDGE Alabama
1.10 - ATL via NYJ (Trade 2) - Jared Verse, EDGE Florida State
1.11 - LAC via MIN (Trade 1) - Brock Bowers, TE Georgia
1.12 - DEN - Bo Nix, QB Oregon
1.13 - LV - Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
1.14 - NO - Olu Fashanu, OT Penn State
1.15 - IND - Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
1.16 - SEA - Byron Murphy II, DL Texas
1.17 - JAX - Brian Thomas Jr., WR LSU
1.18 - CIN - Taliese Fuaga, OL Oregon State
1.19 - DAL via LAR (Trade 3) - JC Latham, OT Alabama
1.20 - PIT - Jackson Powers-Johnson, C Oregon
1.21 - MIA - Troy Fautanu, OL Washington
1.22 - PHI - Nate Wiggins, CB Clemson
1.23 - LAC via MIN (Trade 1) - Amarius Mims, OT Georgia
1.24 - LAR via DAL (Trade 3) - Johnny Newton, DL Illinois
1.25 - GB - Cooper DeJean, CB Iowa
1.26 - TB - Laiatu Latu, EDGE UCLA
1.27 - CAR via AZ (Trade 4) - Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
1.28 - BUF - Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
1.29 - DET - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB Alabama
1.30 - LV via BAL (Trade 5) - Michael Penix Jr.
1.31 - SF - Graham Barton, OL Duke
1.32 - KC - TJ Tampa, CB Iowa State
Round 2
2.33 - AZ via CAR (Trade 4) - Tyler Guyton, OT Oklahoma
2.34 - NE - Ladd McConkey, WR Georgia
2.35 - AZ - Chop Robinson, EDGE Penn State
2.36 - WAS - Darius Robinson, EDGE Mizzou
2.37 - LAC - Ennis Rakestraw Jr., CB Mizzou
2.38 - TEN - Xavier Worthy, WR Texas
2.39 - CAR - Zach Frazier, C WVU
2.40 - WAS - Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
2.41 - GB - Jordan Morgan, OL Arizona
2.42 - HOU - Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
2.43 - ATL - Kamari Lassiter, CB Georgia
2.44 - BAL via LV (Trade 5) - Troy Franklin, WR Oregon
2.45 - PIT via NO (Trade 6) - Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
2.46 - IND - Malachi Corley, WR WKU
2.47 - NYG - Kingsley Suamataia, OT BYU
2.48 - JAX - Tyler Nubin, S Minnesota
2.49 - CIN - Braden Fiske, DL Florida State
2.50 - PHI - Payton Wilson, LB NC State
2.51 - NO via PIT (Trade 6) - Adisa Isaac, EDGE Penn State
2.52 - LAR - Kiran Amegadjie, OT Yale
2.53 - PHI - Javon Bullard, S Georgia
2.54 - CLE - Kris Jenkins, DL Michigan
2.55 - MIA - Ruke Orhorhoro, DL Clemson
2.56 - DAL - Trey Benson, RB Florida State
2.57 - TB - Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
2.58 - GB - Chris Braswell, EDGE Alabama
2.59 - HOU - Edgerrin Cooper, LB TAMU
2.60 - BUF - Junior Colson, LB Michigan
2.61 - DET - Bralen Trice, EDGE Washington
2.62 - BAL - Mike Sainristil, CB Michigan
2.63 - SF - Max Melton, CB Rutgers
2.64 - KC - Ja'Lynn Polk, WR Washington
Round 3
3.65 - CAR - Roman Wilson, WR Michigan
3.66 - AZ - Cam Hart, CB Notre Dame
3.67 - WAS - Christian Haynes, OL UConn
3.68 - NE - Blake Fisher, OT Notre Dame
3.69 - LAC - Jonathan Brooks, RB Texas
3.70 - NYG - Kamren Kinchens, S Miami
3.71 - AZ - T'Vondre Sweat, DL Texas
3.72 - NYJ - Patrick Paul, OT Houston
3.73 - DET - Dominick Puni, OL Kansas
3.74 - ATL - Michael Hall Jr., DL Ohio State
3.75 - CHI - Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
3.76 - DEN - Jalen McMillan, WR Washington
3.77 - BAL via LV (Trade 5) - Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE Western Michigan
3.78 - WAS - Renardo Green, CB Florida State
3.79 - LAR via ATL (Trade 7) - Spencer Rattler, QB South Carolina
3.80 - CIN - Devontez Walker, WR UNC
3.81 - SEA - Sedrick Van Pran, C Georgia
3.82 - IND - Brandon Dorlus, EDGE/DL Oregon
3.83 - ATL - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S Texas Tech
3.84 - PIT - Andru Phillips, CB Kentucky
3.85 - CLE - Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB Clemson
3.86 - HOU - Jaylen Wright, RB Tennessee
3.87 - LAR - Kris Abrams-Draine, CB Mizzou
3.88 - GB - Cedric Gray, LB UNC
3.89 - TB - Mason McCormick, OL South Dakota State
3.90 - AZ - Christian Mahogany, OL Boston College
3.91 - DJ James, CB Auburn
3.92 - TB - Michael Pratt, QB Tulane
3.93 - BAL - Christian Jones, OT Texas
3.94 - SF - Cooper Beebe, OL K State
3.95 - KC - Roger Rosengarten, OT Washington
3.96 - JAX - Jonah Ellis, EDGE Utah
3.97 - CIN - Theo Johnson, TE Penn State
3.98 - PIT - Matt Goncalves, OT Pitt
3.99 - LAR - Javon Baker, WR UCF
3.100 - WAS - Jaden Hicks, S Washington State
Round 4
4.101 - AZ via CAR (Trade 4) - Calen Bullock, S USC
4.102 - SEA - Cole Bishop, S Utah
4.103 - NE - Austin Booker, EDGE Kansas
4.104 - AZ - Beaux Limmer, C Arkansas
4.105 - MIN via LAC (Trade 1) - Gabriel Murphy, EDGE UCLA
4.106 - TEN - Tykee Smith, S Georgia
4.107 - NYG - MarShawn Lloyd, RB USC
4.108 - MIN - Ray Davis, RB Kentucky
4.109 - ATL - Jarrian Jones, CB Florida State
4.110 - LAC - Brenden Rice, WR USC
4.111 - ATL via NYJ (Trade 2) - Ainias Smith, WR TAMU
4.112 - LV - Blake Corum, RB Michigan
4.113 - BAL - Bucky Irving, RB Oregon
4.114 - JAX - Zak Zinter, OL Michigan
4.115 - CIN - Sione Vaki, S Utah
4.116 - JAX - Tommy Eichenberg, LB Ohio State
4.117 - IND - Cade Stover, TE Ohio State
4.118 - SEA - Marist Liufau, LB Notre Dame
4.119 - NO - Jacob Cowing, WR Arizona
4.120 - PHI - Johnny Wilson, WR Florida State
4.121 - DEN - Jarvis Brownlee Jr., CB Louisville
4.122 - CHI - DeWayne Carter, DL Duke
4.123 - HOU - Josh Newton, CB TCU
4.124 - SF - Javon Solomon, EDGE Troy
4.125 - TB - Ben Sinnott, TE K State
4.126 - GB - Audric Estime, RB Notre Dame
4.127 - HOU - Justin Eboigbe, EDGE Alabama
4.128 - BUF - Elijah Jones, CB Boston College
4.129 - MIN - Leonard Taylor III, DL Miami
4.130 - LV - Sataoa Laumea, OT Utah
4.131 - KC - Dallin Holker, TE Colorado State
4.132 - SF - Malik Washington, WR Virginia
4.133 - BUF - Javon Foster, OT Mizzou
4.134 - NYJ - Mohamed Kamara, EDGE Colorado State
4.135 - SF - McKinnley Jackson, DL TAMU
Round 5
5.136 - DEN - Jaheim Bell, TE Florida State
5.137 - NE - Jamari Thrash, WR Louisville
5.138 - AZ - Caelen Carson, CB Wake Forest
5.139 - WAS - Braelon Allen, RB Wisconsin
5.140 - LAC - Luke McCaffrey, WR Rice
5.141 - NYG - Khristian Boyd, DL UNI
5.142 - CAR - Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
5.143 - ATL - Joe Milton III, QB Tennessee
5.144 - BUF - Mekhi Wingo, DL LSU
5.145 - DEN - Grayson Murphy, EDGE UCLA
5.146 - TEN - Nelson Caeser, EDGE Houston
5.147 - DEN - Tyrone Tracy, RB Purdue
5.148 - LV - Isaiah Adams, OT Illinois
5.149 - CIN - Chau Smith-Wade, CB Washington State
5.150 - NO - Jordan Travis, QB Florida State
5.151 - IND - Trevor Keegan, OL Michigan
5.152 - WAS - Tahj Washington, WR USC
5.153 - JAX - Kalen King, CB Penn State
5.154 - LAR - Maason Smith, DL LSU
5.155 - LAR - Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint, WR Georgia
5.156 - CLE - Cornelius Johnson, WR Michigan
5.157 - MIN - Beau Brade, S Maryland
5.158 - MIA - Erick All, TE Iowa
5.159 - KC - Will Shipley, RB Clemson
5.160 - BUF - James Williams, S Miami
5.161 - PHI - Xavier Thomas, EDGE Clemson
5.162 - AZ - Logan Lee, DL Iowa
5.163 - BUF - Michael Barrett, LB Michigan
5.164 - DET - Drake Nugent, C Michigan
5.165 - BAL - JD Bertrand, LB Notre Dame
5.166 - CAR - Steele Chambers, LB Ohio State
5.167 - MIN - Isaiah Williams, WR Illinois
5.168 - NO - Myles Murphy, DL UNC
5.169 - GB - Walter Rouse, OT Oklahoma
5.170 - NO - Dillon Johnson, RB Washington
5.171 - PHI - Malik Mustapha, S Wake Forest
5.172 - PHI - Tanor Bortolini, C Wisconsin
5.173 - KC - Nehemiah Pritchett, CB Auburn
5.174 - DAL - Jaylan Ford, LB Texas
5.175 - NO - De'Corian Clark, WR UTSA
5.176 - SF - Ty'Ron Hopper - LB Mizzou
Round 6
6.177 - MIN - Dwight McGlothern, CB Arkansas
6.178 - PIT - Javion Cohen, OL Miami
6.179 - SEA - Curtis Jacobs, LB Penn State
6.180 - NE - Tyler Davis, DL Clemson
6.181 - LAC, Jalen Sundell, OT NDSU
6.182 - TEN - Braiden McGregor, EDGE Michigan
6.183 - NYG - Austin Reed, QB WKU
6.184 - MIA - LaDarius Henderson, OT Michigan
6.185 - NYJ - AJ Barner, TE Michigan
6.186 - AZ - Casey Washington, WR Illinois
6.187 - ATL - Jordan Jefferson, DL LSU
6.188 - HOU - Jaylin Simpson, S Auburn
6.189 - BUF - Dylan Laube, RB New Hampshire
6.190 - NO - Tarheeb Still, CB Maryland
6.191 - IND - Ryan Watts, CB Texas
6.192 - SEA - Jaylen Harrell, EDGE Michigan
6.193 - NE - Cody Schrader, RB Mizzou
6.194 - CIN - Jowan Briggs, DL Cincinnati
6.195 - PIT - Brennan Jackson, EDGE Washington
6.196 - ATL - Frank Gore Jr., RB Southern Miss
6.197 - ATL - Solomon Byrd, EDGE USC
6.198 - MIA - Anthony Gould, WR Oregon State
6.199 - NO - Tip Reiman, TE Illinois
6.200 - BUF - Nathan Thomas, OT LA Tech
6.201 - DET - Kamal Hadden, CB Tennessee
6.202 - GB - Hunter Nourzad, C Penn State
6.203 - DEN - Daijahn Anthony, S Ole Miss
6.204 - BUF - Daequan Hardy, CB Penn State
6.205 - DET - Jalen Green, EDGE James Madison
6.206 - CLE - Jase McClellan, RB Alabama
6.207 - DEN - Caedan Wallace, OT Penn State
6.208 - LV - Ethan Driskell, OT Marshall
6.209 - LAR - Kimani Vidal, RB Troy
6.210 - PHI - Justin Rogers, DL Auburn
6.211 - SF - Julian Pearl, OT Illinois
6.212 - JAX - Marcus Harris, DL Auburn
6.213 - LAR - Omar Brown, S Nebraska
6.214 - CIN - Andrew Coker, OT TCU
6.215 - SF - MJ Devonshire, CB Pitt
6.216 - DAL - Dylan McMahon, NC State
6.217 - LAR - Josh Wallace, CB Michigan
6.218 - BAL - Joshua Cephus, WR UTSA
6.219 - GB - Zion Logue, DL Georgia
6.220 - TB - David White Jr., WR Western Carolina
Round 7
7.221 - KC - Jordan Whittington, WR Texas
7.222 - WAS - Johnny Dixon, CB Penn State
7.223 - LV - Dominic Lovett, WR Georgia
7.224 - CIN - Layden Robinson, OL TAMU
7.225 - LAC - CJ Hanson, OL Holy Cross
7.226 - AZ - Taulia Tagovailia, QB Maryland
7.227 - TEN - Tanner McLachlan, TE Arizona
7.228 - BAL - Myles Harden, OL South Dakota
7.229 - LV - Dominique Hampton, S Washington
7.230 - MIN - Trente Jones, OT Michigan
7.231 - NE - Trevin Wallace, LB Kentucky
7.232 - MIN - Jalen Coker, WR Holy Cross
7.233 - IND - Isaiah Davis, RB South Dakota State
7.234 - DAL - Miyan Williams, RB Ohio State
7.235 - SEA - Amin Dankwah, OT Howard
7.236 - JAX - Brandon Coleman, OT TCU
7.237 - CIN - Trey Taylor, S Air Force
7.238 - CIN - Carter Bradley, QB South Alabama
7.239 - NO - Darius Muasau, LB UCLA
7.240 - CAR - AJ Woods, CB Pitt
7.241 - MIA - Willie Roberts, CB LA Tech
7.242 - TEN - Andrew Raym, C Oklahoma
7.243 - CLE - Donavan Jennings, OT USF
7.244 - DAL - Kedon Slovis, QB BYU
7.245 - GB - Decamerion Richardson, CB Mississippi State
7.246 - TB - Kenny Logan Jr., S Kansas
7.247 - HOU - Trey Knox, TE South Carolina
7.248 - BUF - Nathaniel Watson, LB Mississippi State
7.249 - DET - Dallas Gant, LB Toledo
7.250 - BAL - Rasheen Ali, RB Marshall
7.251 - SF - Marcellus Dial, RB Ohio State
7.252 - TEN - Sam Hartman, QB Notre Dame
7.253 - LAC - Evan Anderson, DL FAU
7.254 - LAR - Khalid Duke, EDGE K State
7.255 - GB - Josh Proctor, S Ohio State
7.256 - NYJ - Jaden Shirden, RB Monmouth
7.257 - NYJ - Jared Wiley, TE TCU
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2024.03.27 22:12 amateurtoss Six Cultures of Play [Blogpost]

This is a strong article that gives an overview of different RPG culture and some brief history. I wouldn't organize mine in quite the same way, but I think a lot of people on this sub would do well by engaging with wider RPG design and history.

In this post I am going to present the taxonomy of the six main play cultures as well as a few notes about their historical origins. I am doing this to help people from different play cultures both understand their own values better as well as to encourage stronger and more productive cross-cultural discussion.
There are at least six main cultures of play that have emerged over the course of the roleplaying game hobby. There may be more: my analysis is mainly restricted to English-language RPG cultures, tho' at least three of them have significant non-English presences as well. In addition to these six cultures, there's a proto-culture that existed from 1970-1976 before organisation into cultures really began.
A culture of play is a set of shared norms (goals, values, taboos, etc.), considerations, and techniques that inform a group of people who are large enough that they are not all in direct contact with one another (let's call that a "community"). These cultures of play are transmitted through a variety of media, ranging from books and adventures to individuals teaching one another to magazine articles to online streaming shows. A culture of play is broadly similar to a "network of practice" if you're familiar with that jargon.
Individuals in the hobby, having been aligned to and trained in one or more of these cultures, then develop individual styles. I want to point out that I think talking about specific games as inherently part of some culture is misleading, because games can be played in multiple different styles in line with the values of different cultures. But, many games contain text that advocates for them to be played in a way that is in line with a particular culture, or they contain elements that express the creator's adoption of a particular culture's set of values.
The Six Cultures
1) Classic
Classic play is oriented around the linked progressive development of challenges and PC power, with the rules existing to help keep those in rough proportion to one another and adjudicate the interactions of the two "fairly". This is explicit in the AD&D 1e DMG's advice to dungeon masters, but recurs in a number of other places, perhaps most obviously in tournament modules, especially the R-series put out by the RPGA in its first three years of operation, which emphasize periodic resets between sections of the adventure to create a "fair" experience for players as they cycle around from tournament table to tournament table playing the sections.
The focus on challenge-based play means lots of overland adventure and sprawling labyrinths and it recycles the same notation to describe towns, which are also treated as sites of challenge. At some point, PCs become powerful enough to command domains, and this opens up the scope of challenges further, by allowing mass hordes to engage in wargame-style clashes. The point of playing the game in classic play is not to tell a story (tho' it's fine if you do), but rather the focus of play is coping with challenges and threats that smoothly escalate in scope and power as the PCs rise in level. The idea of longer campaigns with slow but steady progression in PC power interrupted only by the occasional death is a game play ideal for classic culture.
This comes into being sometime between 1976-1977, when Gygax shifts from his early idea that OD&D is a "non-game" into trying to stabilise the play experience. It starts with him denouncing "Dungeons and Beavers" and other deviations from his own style in the April 1976 Strategic Review, but this turns into a larger shift in TSR's publishing schedule from 1977 onwards. Specifically, they begin providing concrete play examples - sample dungeons and scenarios, including modules - and specific advice about proper play procedures and values to consumers.
This shift begins with the publication of Holmes Basic (1977) and Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth (1977), before eventually culminating in AD&D (1977-1979) and the Mentzer-written BECMI (1983-1986) line. Judges Guild, the RPGA, Dragon Magazine, and even other publishers (e.g. Mayfair Games) get on board with this and spread Classic norms around before Gygax and Mentzer leave TSR in late 1985 / early 1986. Judges Guild loses its license to print D&D material in 1985, and the RPGA's tournaments have shifted away from classic play by about 1983. Most of the other creators at TSR have shifted to "trad" (see below) by the mid-1980s, and so the institutional support for this style starts dries up, even tho' people continue to run and play in "classic" games.
Classic is revived in the early 2000s when the holdouts who've continued to play in that style use the internet to come together on forums like Dragonsfoot, Knights and Knaves Alehouse, and others, and this revival is part of what motivates OSRIC (2006) to be released. NB: This is the only name in this essay where it's not an autonym used by the practitioners themselves, tho' Gus L. of All Dead Generations is interested in many of their ideas and does call his own style "Classic".
One weird quirk of history is that people who were trying to revive classic in the early 2000s are often lumped into the OSR, despite the two groups really having distinct norms and values. Some of the confusion is because a few key notable individuals (e.g. Matt Finch) actually did shift from being classic revivalists to being early founders of the OSR. Because both groups are interested in challenge-based play, even if they have different takes on challenge's meaning, there are moment of productive overlap and interaction (and also lots of silly disputes and sneering; such is life).
This intermingling of people from different play cultures who initially appear to be part of the same movement but turn out to be interested in different things is pretty common - story games and Nordic LARP go through a similar intermingling before they split off into different things (more on that in a sec).
2) Trad (short for "traditional")
Its own adherents and advocates call it "trad", but we shouldn't think of it as the oldest way of roleplaying (it is not). Trad is not what Gary and co. did (that's "classic"), but rather is the reaction to what they were doing.
Trad holds that the primary goal of a game is to tell an emotionally satisfying narrative, and the DM is the primary creative agent in making that happen - building the world, establishing all the details of the story, playing all the antagonists, and doing so mostly in line with their personal tastes and vision. The PCs can contribute, but their contributions are secondary in value and authority to the DM's. If you ever hear people complain about (or exalt!) games that feel like going through a fantasy novel, that's trad. Trad prizes gaming that produces experiences comparable to other media, like movies, novels, television, myths, etc., and its values often encourage adapting techniques from those media.
Trad emerges in the late 1970s, with an early intellectually hub in the Dungeons and Beavers crew at Caltech, but also in Tracy and Laura Hickman's gaming circle in Utah. The defining incident for Tracy was evidently running into a vampire in a dungeon and thinking that it really needed a story to explain what it was doing down there wandering around. Hickman wrote a series of adventures in 1980 (the Night Verse series) that tried to bring in more narrative elements, but the company that was supposed to publish them went bust. So he decided to sell them to TSR instead, and they would only buy them if he came to work for them. So in 1982, he went to work at TSR and within a few years, his ideas would spread throughout the company and become its dominant vision of "roleplaying".
Trad gets its first major publication articulating its vision of play outside of TSR in Sandy Petersen's Call of Cthulhu (1981), which tells readers that the goal of play is to create an experience like a horror story, and provides specific advice (the "onion layer" model) for creating that. The values of trad crystallise as a major and distinct culture of play in D&D with the Ravenloft (1983) and Dragonlance (1984) modules written by Hickman. TSR published Ravenloft in response to Call of Cthulhu's critical and commercial success, and then won a fistful of awards and sold tons of copies themselves.
Within a few years, the idea of "roleplaying, not rollplaying" and the importance of a Dungeon Master creating an elaborate, emotionally-satisfying narrative had taken over. I think probably the ability to import terms and ideas from other art forms probably helped a great deal as well, since understanding trad could be done by anyone who'd gone through a few humanities classes in university.
Trad is the hegemonic culture of play from at least the mid-1980s to the early 2000s, and it's still a fairly common style of play. For an example of a fairly well-thought through style of trad by someone who's been influential on the last 15 or so years, check out S. John Ross's RPG Lexicon.
Both of the next two styles emerge out of problems with trad, especially the experience of playing Vampire (a tradder-than-trad game in its authors' aspirations), but the details of that are larger than this essay can contain so I'm just going to mention it and leave it for another time.
3) Nordic Larp
This is again an autonym. The "Nordic" part is more about origins and mass of the player base than a true regional limitation of any sort. The "Larp" designation is part of the name for reasons that are unclear to me, even tho' its ideas started in tabletop roleplaying, and its philosophy and aspirations are realisable in tabletop games just as much as in dress-up games. (Edit: Spelling it as if it wasn't an acronym is a shibboleth of Nordic Larp, so in keeping with the autonym principle I've edited it to follow that convention when referring to the culture, but kept the activity as LARP)
Nordic Larp is built around the idea that the primary goal of a roleplaying game is immersion in an experience. Usually in a specific character's experiences, but sometimes in another kind of experience where player and character are not sharply distinguished - the experimental Jeep group often uses abstract games to affect the player directly. The more "bleed" you can create between a player and the role they occupy within the game, the better. Nordic Larps often feature quite long "sessions" (like weekend excursions) followed by long debriefs in which one processes the experiences one had as the character.
Embedding the player's character within a larger story can be one way of producing vivid, absorbing experiences, but it's not necessary and may even interfere with pulling it off (especially when done badly). Nordic Larp players emphasise their collaborative aspects, but when you drill into this, it's a rejection of trad's idea of a single DM-auteur crafting an experience, and the collaboration is there in service of improving immersion by blending player and character agency more thoroughly.
I think LARP conjures up images of people doing fantasy cosplay, and there are sometimes elements of that in some Nordic Larps, but I actually think the trend has been away from fantastical games to scenarios and set-ups that are closer to real life since it allows the incorporation of modern architecture, technology, and other details from the real world to facilitate immersion.
Nordic Larp's first major publication that I know of is the very self-conscious Manifesto of the Turku School by Mike Pohjola in 2000, and I think the early community is in dialogue with the Forge crew, tho' the two groups have very different ideals of play. By 2005 you have specific groups like Jeep developing these ideas, and in 2010 you get the publication of the Nordic Larp book. Nowadays there's also a wiki and an official website.
Nordic Larp is the part of roleplaying that seems to receive the most grants and funding for academic study. I'm never sure why, tho' I suspect some of it has to do with the interest in commodifying LARP ideas to create immersive entertainment experiences for tourists at mega-resorts in the Gulf Cooperation Council countries. I'm not going to link to any specific individuals connected to Nordic Larp who have jobs there to avoid doxing private individuals, but they exist (please don't dox anyone in the comments, either).
4) Story Games
Again, an autonym. Most people who dislike them call them stuff like "Forge games" or "post-Forge indies" after the Forge indie RPG forums. "Indie RPGs" was a term for these at one point as well, but I don't think it was particularly distinctive or edifying, and evidently neither did the adherents to this culture since they mostly abandoned it. Here's a post discussing the origin of the term "story game" from Across the Table.
The Big Model is notoriously obtuse and post-Forge theory has a lot of ideas I strongly disagree with, but I think a fair characterisation of their position that doesn't use their own terminology is that the ideal play experience minimises ludonarrative dissonance. A good game has a strong consonance between the desires of the people playing it, the rules themselves, and the dynamics of the those things interacting. Together, these things allow the people to achieve their desires, whatever they may be. "Incoherence" is to be avoided as creating "zilch play" or "brain damage" as Ron Edwards once called it.
The story games crowd, to their credit, is willing to be very radical in terms of techniques towards that end - both the mechanics proper and the development of positions (story gamers often call them "Creative Agendas") like "narrativism" are meant to produce consonance and avoid dissonance on as many levels as they can picture it happening.
Story games starts with Ron Edwards in 1999, when he writes System Does Matter and sets up the Forge. By 2004 you have the Provisional Glossary and the Big Model, and one million arguments on the internet about what is or isn't "narrativist" and how much brain damage RPGs are causing, etc. The Story games forums themselves are founded in 2006 as a successor to the Forge. For the past decade, the big cluster of story game design has tended to orient itself around "Powered by the Apocalypse" games patterned after or building on Apocalypse World by Vincent Baker.
BTW, if you want a great example of someone applying the cultural norms of story games to a game that was written to be played in a trad way, The Sacrament of Death by Eero Tuovinen describes his experiences doing just that.
5) The OSR ("Old School Renaissance / Revival")
Yes, it's this late in this chronological listing. And yes, the OSR is not "classic" play. It's a romantic reinvention, not an unbroken chain of tradition.
The OSR draws on the challenge-based gameplay from the proto-culture of D&D and combines it with an interest in PC agency, particularly in the form of decision-making. The goal is a game where PC decision-making, especially diegetic decision-making, is the driver of play. I think you can see this in a very pure form in the advice Chris McDowall gives out on his blog for running Into the Odd and Electric Bastionland.
An important note I will make here is to distinguish the progressive challenge-based play of the "classic" culture from the more variable challenge-based play of the OSR. The OSR mostly doesn't care about "fairness" in the context of "game balance" (Gygax did). The variation in player agency across a series of decisions is far more interesting to most OSR players than it is to classic players.
The OSR specifically refuses the authoritative mediation of a pre-existing rules structure in order to encourage diegetic interactions using what S. John Ross would call "ephemeral resources" and "invisible rulebooks", and that the OSR calls "playing the world" and "player skill", respectively. Basically, by not being bound by the rules, you can play with a wider space of resources that contribute to framing differences in PC agency in potentially very precise and finely graded ways, and this allows you to throw a wider variety of challenges at players for them to overcome. I could write an entire post on just what random tables are meant to do, but they tie into the variance in agency and introduce surprise and unpredictability, ensuring that agency does vary over time.
I tend to date the start of the OSR from shortly after the publication of OSRIC (2006), which blew open the ability to use the OGL to republish the mechanics of old, pre-3.x D&D. With this new option, you had people who mainly wanted to revive AD&D 1e as a living game, and people who wanted to use old rule-sets as a springboard for their own creations. 2007 brought Labyrinth Lord, and the avalanche followed thereafter. The early OSR had Grognardia to provide it with a reconstructed vision of the past to position itself as the inheritors of, it had distinct intellectual developments like "Melan diagrams" of dungeons and Chris Kutalik's pointcrawls, and I would say it spent the time between 2006 and roughly 2012 forming its norms into a relatively self-consistent body of ideas about proper play.
6) OC / Neo-trad
This is the only one of the terms that isn't fully an autonym, tho' "OC" can be appended to a "looking for game" post online to recruit people from this culture consistently, so it's closer. I also call it "neo-trad", firstly because the OC RPG culture shares a lot of the same norms as trad, secondly because I think people who belong to this culture believe they are part of trad. You also see this style sometimes called "the modern style" when being contrasted to the OSR. Here's an example of someone who calls it "neo-trad" elaborating a very pure vision of the style (tho' I disagree with the list of games provided as examples of neo-trad at the end of the article). On Reddit, "OC" is often called "modern" as in "the modern way to play" or "modern games".
OC basically agrees with trad that the goal of the game is to tell a story, but it deprioritises the authority of the DM as the creator of that story and elevates the players' roles as contributors and creators. The DM becomes a curator and facilitator who primarily works with material derived from other sources - publishers and players, in practice. OC culture has a different sense of what a "story" is, one that focuses on player aspirations and interests and their realisation as the best way to produce "fun" for the players.
This focus on realising player aspirations is what allows both the Wizard 20 casting Meteor Swarm to annihilate a foe and the people who are using D&D 5e to play out running their own restaurant to be part of a shared culture of play. This culture is sometimes pejoratively called the "Tyranny of Fun" (a term coined in the OSR) because of its focus on relatively rapid gratification compared to other styles.
The term "OC" means "original character" and comes from online freeform fandom roleplaying that was popular on Livejournal and similar platforms back in the early 2000s. "OC" is when you bring an original character into a roleplaying game set in the Harry Potter universe, rather than playing as Harold the Cop himself. Despite being "freeform" (meaning no die rolls and no Dungeon Master) these games often had extensive rulesets around the kinds of statements one could introduce to play, with players appealing to the ruleset itself against one another to settle disputes. For the younger generations of roleplayers, these kinds of games were often their introduction to the hobby.
I think OC RPG emerges during the 3.x era (2000-2008), probably with the growth of Living Greyhawk Core Adventures and the apparatus of "organised play" and online play with strangers more generally. Organised play ended up diminishing the power of the DM to shift authority onto rules texts, publishers, administrators, and really, to players. Since DMs may change from adventure to adventure but player characters endure, they become more important, with standard rules texts providing compatibility between game. DM discretion and invention become things that interfere with this intercompatibility, and thus depreciated. This is where the emphases on "RAW" and using only official material (but also the idea that if it's published it must be available at the table) come from - it undermines DM power and places that power in the hands of the PCs.
These norms were reinforced and spread by "character optimization" forums that relied solely on text and rhetorically deprecated "DM fiat", and by official character builders in D&D and other games. Modules, which importantly limit the DM's discretion to provide a consistent set of conditions for players, are another important textual support for this style. OC styles are also particularly popular with online streaming games like Critical Role since when done well they produce games that are fairly easy to watch as television shows. The characters in the stream become aspirational figures that a fanbase develops parasocial relationships with and cheers on as they realise their "arcs".
No Quizzes, No Buckets When I first presented these on a forum, someone joked that I ought to create a quiz for people to determine which culture they belonged to, but I'd rather not. Truthfully, I think most individual gamers and groups are a blend of cultures, with that blend realised as an individual style. The play cultures are more like paradigms - they cohere at the level of value and reflection on what "excellent play" could mean (put more formally, they share teloi of play). To be a part of a play culture is in some sense the capacity to recognise when someone else is playing in accord with a set of values you share with them.
My main purpose in the above taxonomy is to help people better understand that there are distinct paradigms of play that esteem different things, tho' they can be sutured together (with all sorts of fun results) in concrete situations. I doubt this list is exhaustive, and there are probably cultures I've left out as well as ones that are yet to emerge. The purpose of the list is mainly to briefly illustrate that there are many different values of play, and to discuss the logic animating some of the more well-known ones.
The original purpose of this essay was to talk about OC roleplaying, since I think it's the least well-characterised out in the wild, and most characterisations are relatively pejorative (see the above "tyranny of fun"). There also tends to be a lot of confusion between people working within the paradigm of OC and trad, since they often use the same terms to refer to very different things.
Also, without wanting to be a jerk, OC roleplaying tends to be the default paradigm of new players coming to the hobby through streaming, and thus has the largest group of people who are low-skill and ignorant of the history of roleplaying. I'm hopeful that articulating their values and relation to the larger hobby will encourage them to develop OC roleplaying culture in interesting and robust ways, while also steering them away from arrogance about the universality of their vision.
I am hopeful that the above taxonomy will help people to apprehend and navigate the differences between cultures and styles rather than constantly running into dead-ends as it turns out that the baseline assumptions about play that one is working from simply aren't shared with one's interlocutor(s).
I unfortunately can't respond to comments on the blog directly, so if people leave comments or questions about the above taxonomy, I will collect them up and respond in a blog post.
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2024.03.27 15:27 Thunderblessed63 Fit Check? Lions Centric Mock Draft v. 6

Fit Check? Lions Centric Mock Draft v. 6
Thanks to everyone who has followed along so far. This is the sixth of seven installments, as this year's crop contains a handful more scheme fits than some prior years, so we have a little more depth and ground to cover. On the last one, the next one, I'll also add a "what I would do" section after the mock, so you can go ahead and yell at me and tell me I'm stupid then. But this one is just another rundown of great to elite fits.
Do note, I get asked about a handful of genuinely good players all the time, but the reality here is that we have five levels that I distinguish between. The majority of players are average, and then there's a significant portion who fit the "good" tag, which means 3 of about 5-6 indicators I look at. Those players do get picked (Brodric Martin last year was a good tagged fit, not great or elite like the others). So sometimes there are players, such as Iowa CB Cooper DeJean who are genuinely good players, but don't check enough boxes for the Lions. Usually the issue is fans want to believe that someone fits more so than they're willing to try and read the tea leaves, but sometimes organizations do change up their approach.
Here are all the players included to date. As a reminder: I do not repeat players in these, and I do intentionally vary the positional approach to it.
Version #1 Version #2 Version #3 Version #4 Version #5
G Graham Barton (Duke) DL Darius Robinson (Missouri) CB Kamari Lassiter (Georgia) EDGE Jared Verse (Florida St.) WR Xavier Legette (South Carolina)
DT DeWayne Carter (Duke) G Cooper Beebe (Kansas St.) EDGE Marshawn Kneeland (Western Mich.) CB T.J. Tampa (Iowa State) S Javon Bullard (Georgia)
CB Renardo Green (Florida St.) CB Max Melton (Rutgers) WR Jermaine Burton (Alabama) DT Khristian Boyd (Northern Iowa) G Dominick Puni (Kansas)
EDGE Brennan Jackson (Washington St.) EDGE Nelson Ceaser (Houston) OT Javon Foster (Missouri) OL Isaiah Adams (Illinois) DT Jaden Crumedy (Miss. State)
EDGE Mohamed Kamara (Colorado St.) S Kitan Oladapo (Oregon St.) DT Jordan Jefferson (LSU) DL Gabe Hall (Baylor) OT Josiah Ezirim (Eastern Kent.)
WR Jalen Coker (Holy Cross) K Joshua Karty (Stanford) RB Jase McClellan (Alabama) TE Tanner McLachlan (Arizona) DL Eric Watts (UCONN)
S Cameron Allen (Purdue) LB Joshua Bertrand (Notre Dame) CB Tarheeb Still (Maryland) - - - CB Josh Wallace (Michigan)
- - - - - - C Andrew Raym (Oklahoma) - - - - - -
This one is going to include a brief trade down. Tony Pauline has mentioned that the Washington Commanders are very interested in some of the offensive tackles in this class that might slip to them near the top of the second-round, particularly Arizona OT Jordan Morgan, but some others factor as well. However, let's envision they feel some pressure to go up and get in front of the Chiefs (now freed up to maybe go OL rather than WR by signing Hollywood Brown), and the Ravens and 49ers (both OT needy teams as well), and a deal gets done. Realistically, the deal there could be something along the lines of the Lions sliding down to 2.36 and the Lions pick up the Commanders third-round compensatory pick (3.100) as a result.
So let's proceed with that.

Round 2, Pick #36 (via WAS) - C/G Zach Frazier, West Virginia

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Frazier actually was predicted to land with the Lions at 1.29 in Daniel Jeremiah's second mock draft, but I do think there's a pretty good chance he ends up going early second more so than late first, and if so, a pick for Detroit of him here makes a bit more sense in my opinion. Frazier's a highly-experienced player, with 46 starts, mostly at center but some at left guard, largely a result of winning a starting job as a true freshman for the Mountaineers. Frazier is also a former wrestler and won the WVU weight room excellence award twice while there, so some intangible boxes getting checked off there for sure.
And to a large degree, I think Frazier is going to present a good deal of similarity to former Rams iOL Brian Allen, the only center so far we have in the Holmes-influenced database. Frazier is a good deal bigger, coming in at 6-3, 315 pounds, though we don't have testing data on Frazier. On film, Frazier wins with elite strength, leverage, and quickness at the point of attack. He keeps a very strong base, and has shown he can operate his hands independently of one another. His grip strength and leg churn once he's locked into a defender is excellent, and I think he's got what it takes to play either guard or center in a gap scheme attack. The only significant thing he'd need to clean up is the accuracy and timing of his hands. His snap hand is a little sluggish to recover into the block, and he's missed on some quicker rushers in the past in getting his hands consistently to the breastplate section of the defenders pads, though his grip has allowed him to nullify the inconsistent accuracy.
The Lions will still likely roll into this season with Graham Glasgow at left guard, Frank Ragnow at center, and Kevin Zeitler at right guard, but Frazier's going to give them a high-level backup on the inside, though I do think it's a near certainty, historically speaking, that your top iOL reserve is going to get a couple of starts given how banged up the interior tends to get. Ragnow, in particular, has dealt with a lot of injuries, specifically with a bad foot, and has contemplated retirement though he's back for 2024. Hopefully this offseason is enough to recover and get healthy and be able to play a few more seasons, but Frazier gives the Lions options inside, capable of playing guard for a few seasons and then kicking inside to center once Ragnow hangs it up.

Round 2, Pick #61 - S Cole Bishop, Utah

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As I mentioned in the last mock draft, safety is a pretty underrated need still for the Lions, as rolling into the 2024 season with just Kerby Joseph, Ifeatu Melifonwu, and Brandon Joseph is a little risky, and thus I expect it to be drafted. Bishop is probably my second biggest draft crush left that I haven't talked about yet, a tremendous player that I know at least one significant decision-maker in the Lions organization loves. Beyond that, Bishop is an excellent fit for the historical points that Holmes has looked for in the safety position, notably an elite athlete (9.81 RAS), who brings versatility, coverage ability, and can tackle quite well in addition. He checks off the requisite size box too, measuring in at 6-2, 205 pounds.
As a player, Bishop is an ideal forward-facing split safety, as he brings elite run recognition and pursuit to the play, coming from depth to close off lanes and land hits on the ballcarriers. His football intelligence and awareness there are best in this class, and he's got a natural instinct to find the football and bring the ballcarrier down. But more than just your standard strong safety who can only play the box, Bishop's athleticism and closing burst have helped be a very good player as well when dropping into coverage or covering tight ends in man coverage.
Paired with Kerby Joseph, I think this would be an elite duo at the safety level, balancing Joseph's range in coverage with Bishop's ability to come up and play the run. Both are proficient enough to play the versatile to do the split scheme the Lions use (which is to say they'll play the two-high safeties interchangeably for the most part). Just like Kerby is better in coverage, Bishop is better as a run stopper, but he definitely has the capacity to be an excellent player in the Lions system, and can fill some of the voids that the Lions are losing with Tracy Walker being let go. Think Bishop's an elite fit who is certainly going to appeal to Detroit, though sadly, my ultimate prediction is that the Packers are gonna swipe Bishop with one of their two second-round picks before Detroit gets a shot at him.

Round 3, Pick #73 - EDGE Austin Booker, Kansas

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If the Lions want to continue to lean into their developmental chops, Booker is an excellent edge rusher for them to target in an otherwise mediocre crop overall. He has a very low snap count (just over 500 snaps), and is quite untested, but was a huge breakout player for the Jayhawks this past season (8.0 sacks, 12.0 TFL), flashing an elite blend of size, length, speed, burst, bend, and natural feel for pass rushing. He's a long dude, measuring in at 6-5, 240 pounds with nearly 34-inch arms. He'll need to continue packing on some weight and bulking up to get stronger to be a full-time player, but he could factor pretty quickly as a pass rushing specialist.
He plays with an excellent demeanor, very physical and aggressive, with a hot motor that doesn't quit. He plays with an explosive first step off the snap, closing ground quickly, and then pairs with long arms and a good feel for the timing and usage of those arms to be the initiator in contact. He's a bit more raw, but his pass rush plan is actually a lot more developed than you'd expect for someone with his snaps count, showcasing excellent speed to power, some rips, an arm over inside cut, and even a flattening dip move that shows off his excellent bend.
Right now, he's got some issues handling downhill blockers at the point of attack, though again, I do think it's simply a matter of adding some weight and strength to him, as he's a bit light. He really does play physically and has the right mentality, just think he's going to need a year or two as a situational/rotational pass rusher while they fine tune his run defense and bulk him up a bit further. But overall, Booker is a very promising option, and with his combo of burst and length, has the highest ceiling of any edge rusher besides the first-round folks.

Round 3, Pick #100 (via WAS) - CB Jarvis Brownlee Jr., Louisville

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For those who follows Lionswire edit Jeff Risdon (you should, he's a fantastic source and evaluator), then you might already be familiar with Brownlee as someone Risdon thinks the Lions will like. And he's absolutely right on that one, as Brownlee's got the competitive juices at cornerback that the Lions seem to prefer. We didn't get to see him test, but he fits right into the mold of what the Lions have been targeting at cornerback under Brad Holmes. Brownlee Jr. measured in at 5-11, 194 pounds, and has shown sufficient versatility between outside cornerback (field most likely) and in the slot, another guy who probably can be somewhat classified as a poor man's Devon Witherspoon type.
He plays the game with excellent leverage and bend, always ensuring he's got the more advantageous positioning, and you see it clearly in how fluid of a mover he is when in press coverage. He has excellent agility and flexibility in his hips and ankles, evidenced by the quick transitions he makes to open and run with receivers. His hands are firm and commanding in press, with good timing and targeting to land the blow and disrupt the receiver's release. And then of course his run defense is awesome. Really quick trigger downhill, good, forceful tackler with excellent recognition. Plays the game with excellent effort and motor.
The drawbacks are that Brownlee Jr. is not terribly fast, I think he's lacking sufficient deep speed to carry receivers down the entire field if needed, and thus he's largely going to be reduced to being just a field cornerback or a slot. However, with someone like Kerby Joseph in town, it's clear to see that the Lions are a lot more comfortable with press-oriented receivers who get aggressive in the early phase of coverage, and thus I think Brownlee's going to be a clear target of theirs. Brian Branch will command most of the nickel snaps, but I do think Brownlee's going to be able to play alongside him as a field cornerback in most matchups, and there's a high degree of versatility to his game.

Round 5, Pick #163 - WR Cornelius Johnson, Michigan

Throwback to Johnson's 4 catch, 160 yard, 2 touchdown performance against Ohio State in the 'Shoe in 2022.
Johnson was a dominant Combine performer, running a 4.44 forty-yard dash and some elite explosives to go along with a measurement of 6-3, 212 pounds, putting him just above the average mold for outside wide receivers. And while Johnson's overall stat line at Michigan isn't terribly sexy in this day of dynamic spread offenses (47 catches, 604 yards, 1 touchdown), much like former Wolverine Nico Collins (Texans third-rounder), I believe Johnson will be a much better professional in a more pass-happy offense, as the Wolverines were notoriously run-oriented in their approach. But on the field, Johnson's got a ton of appeal for a team like Detroit.
He'll need to clean up some of his footwork, but Johnson actually is best with his deeper in-breaking routes. Wanna know what Goff is best at throwing off of play-action? Deeper, in-breaking routes. Johnson also has excellent vertical ability, an explosive athlete who leaps up and hauls in contested opportunities regularly, in part due to some excellent ball-tracking ability, one of the key traits in common amongst most Brad Holmes' wide receiver adds.
Johnson does have some focus drops that are less than ideal, but overall, the Lions will also love his on-field demeanor. He's a ferocious and eager run blocker, and has really developed over his career in Ann Arbor as a strong run blocker. Johnson is on the older end (24 years old this fall), but for a team looking to replace Josh Reynolds with another vertical threat on the outside/WR3 type, Johnson's a dream fit for what the Lions are running. He's a super complimentary player to the existing crop of Amon-Ra St. Brown and Jameson Williams.

Round 6, Pick #201 (via TB) - LB Jordan Magee, Temple

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The Lions recently ran Magee through some extra drills as a special teamer, perhaps in a quest to find a replacement for the recently departed Anthony Pittman, who signed with the Washington Commanders. We'll talk more about Magee in a second, but I do want to also take a second and highlight that the NFL's recent changes to the kickoff game do increase the importance of special teams ability as a gunner or blocker for that. With at least a half dozen additional plays now trending towards a much higher impact that they previously were, you're now talking another six to ten plays in a game that have game changing impact, and thus, special teams aces are of an increased importance going forward. Thus, the Lions do have their top four linebackers set, but a special teams-oriented add at the position has a very good chance of sticking on the 53-man roster and brings increased importance to the team's success these days.
But onto Magee. He's a 6-1, 225 pound inside linebacker who balled out at the Combine, running a 4.55 forty-yard dash, and scored a very strong result on the broad jump, which is the NFL's preferred measurement to equate to explosive ability, and the section with the highest correlation amongst Holmes' additions at the position. I think there's some Jarrad Davis to his game, though I do mean that in a good sense, i.e. he's an athletically gifted linebacker with plenty of comfort taking on bigger players and going downhill. Magee lacks some of the bulk and size to smash around with linemen consistently in the box, but I do think his burst and size is going to make him an ideal special teamer with some upside against some of the spreadier teams they face if forced into action at linebacker.
Also, I do like to poke around the scouting reports of some more professional guys/and folks with sources, and this line stood out in Lance Zierlein's scouting report on Magee:
Praised for high football character and on-field intelligence.
Super generic, yes, but it's a better sign than not to have something like that. He also was a regular captain for the Owls (they use weekly captains, not permanent), so the off-field attitude and leadership appear to be quite high. Overall, I think Magee's going to be a really promising special teams player, and a real asset for Detroit in the sixth-round if they can snag him here. As far as his linebacker fit goes, he's coming in as LB6 at best. Big fan of what Magee can bring to Detroit, and would love to see him added to the roster.
And side note here: While I do take a deeper dive at all the players the Lions do bring in or workout on visits, that doesn't automatically qualify them as a fit. Oftentimes players brought in for some of these visits means the team bringing them in actually has further questions remaining in their evaluation of the player, and thus why you'll see some guys who couldn't test at the Combine for various reasons end up getting a lot of visits.

Round 6, Pick #204 - CB Kamal Hadden, Tennessee

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We're doubling up on cornerbacks, but while Jarvis Brownlee Jr. is a field corner or slot corner, Hadden is a promising player to develop into a boundary cornerback in time. A native of River Rouge, Michigan, Hadden transferred into Tennessee from community college and has made the most of his opportunity, though injuries are the big concern, and why Hadden will find himself as a Day 3 pick above all else.
On film, Hadden is very smooth in mirroring receivers in and out of press coverage. He uses his hands independently quite well, able to stymie opposing receiver's release with good positioning and leverage. He has good closing burst as well, able to break on the ball once it's in the air and targets right into the middle of the hands to disrupt the catch process. He's physical and aggressive in coming up to pursue the run, and is fantastic at beating screen blocks on the perimeter.
Hadden's drawbacks are a lack of true top speed to carry guys deep without help, and that his arm length is a bit shorter than you'd like for a boundary cornerback. However, as I mentioned, the biggest question mark is injuries, as Hadden missed games in all three seasons at Tennessee. He was quite good when healthy, but I think that's a genuine question at this point, but if so, his talent is definitely closer to a Day 2 player than a Day 3 guy, and thus this is a bit of a bargain addition if he can stay healthy and develop behind Carlton Davis.

Round 7, Pick #249 - DT Marcus Harris, Auburn

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For those who were fans of Pitt's Calijah Kancey last year, Harris is a late Day 3 version of the Bucs first-round pick. Coming in at 6-2, 285 pounds, Harris is an instinctive and disruptive interior slasher who wins with good hands, a great first step and underrated power. When looking at three-techniques in the Lions defensive system, Brad Holmes has placed a prioritization on a player's ability to be explosive and disruptive off the snap, shooting gaps, and winning with good pop in their hands and quick feet as well.
And I'd say that Harris checks off a lot of those boxes. He plays with an excellent motor, and was also highly productive this past year for the Tigers, tallying 7.0 sacks. And for the record, production inside at DT is probably the biggest spot we've seen a clear correlation to being picked for Brad Holmes historically speaking, so that's noteworthy. Additionally, I think Harris has some pretty underrated upper body strength, with several clips against Arkansas (who has a couple of draft able interior OL) getting tossed around by Harris on several instances.
The reason Harris is going to go a good deal lower than the film suggests is two fold. One, he is small, lacks length, and can easily enough be swallowed up by bigger guards. He's likely going to be a bit of a liability in run defense if he has to take guys head on, though he does give a physical and intense fight when in those situations. The second is that his Combine testing was quite poor, particularly his broad jump (indicative of overall explosiveness). Now it's still there on film, but those two things paired together largely paint Harris as a later round player that teams might take a chance on to fill out a roster spot and see about turning Harris into a pass rush interior lineman. His upside as a situational rusher is quite high, and he brings a lot of skillsets that Holmes has gone towards, and thus, I think this could be a productive pairing between Harris and Detroit.
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As always, thanks for reading! One more of these to go!
If you're up for it. Using the players I've mentioned, what would your ideal outcome from there end up being? I'll be sharing mine in the final installment, coming next week.
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2024.03.19 08:32 Sweet-Count2557 Fun Things to Do in Salt Lake City With Kids

Fun Things to Do in Salt Lake City With Kids
Fun Things to Do in Salt Lake City With Kids Hey there, families! Looking for some awesome things to do in Salt Lake City with your kids? Well, you're in luck! We've got a fantastic lineup of activities and attractions that will keep the whole family entertained.From exploring historical sites and museums to getting up close and personal with animals at the zoo, there's something for everyone.So join us as we uncover the best family-friendly fun that Salt Lake City has to offer. Let's dive right in!Key TakeawaysSalt Lake City offers a diverse range of attractions and activities for families with kids.There are numerous sightseeing and historical sites to explore, such as Temple Square, This Is The Place Heritage Park, and The Utah State Capitol.Families can also visit museums and educational attractions like Clark Planetarium, Natural History Museum of Utah, and The Leonardo.For outdoor fun, families can enjoy gardens and parks like Red Butte Garden and Arboretum, Liberty Park, and Wheeler Historic Farm.Sightseeing and Historical SitesWhen visiting Salt Lake City with kids, one of the must-do activities is exploring the sightseeing and historical sites. These places offer a chance to learn about the city's architecture and historical landmarks, as well as cultural and heritage experiences.One popular destination is Temple Square, where you can see historical buildings, enjoy delicious food, and marvel at stunning architecture.Another great option is This Is The Place Heritage Park, where you can experience pioneer life and try out fun activities.Don't forget about the Utah State Capitol, where you can take informative tours and enjoy the beautiful landscape.And if you're looking for a trendy shopping center with picturesque buildings, check out Trolley Square.These sites aren't only educational, but also offer plenty of opportunities for family fun and exploration.Museums and Educational AttractionsLet's explore the exciting world of museums and educational attractions in Salt Lake City, where kids can engage in interactive exhibits and educational programs.Here are three amazing places to visit:Clark Planetarium: Step into the wonders of the universe at the state-of-the-art planetarium. Kids can explore interactive exhibits and learn about the mysteries of space.Natural History Museum of Utah: Dive into the world of dinosaurs and discover fascinating artifacts from Native American cultures. With hands-on exhibits, kids can uncover the secrets of natural history.The Leonardo: This museum combines art, science, and technology to ignite curiosity in young minds. Children can immerse themselves in interactive exhibits and enjoy hands-on activities that inspire creativity and innovation.These museums offer more than just static displays. They provide hands-on learning experiences that make education fun and engaging for kids of all ages.Get ready for an adventure of discovery and exploration!Gardens and ParksWe love exploring the beautiful gardens and parks in Salt Lake City with our kids. One of our favorite spots is Red Butte Garden and Arboretum. It has themed gardens and nature trails that are perfect for a family stroll. The kids can learn about different plants and flowers while enjoying the fresh air.We also love Liberty Park, an urban oasis with a duck pond and a playground. It's a great place for picnics and outdoor activities like frisbee or soccer.And if you're looking for a unique experience, Wheeler Historic Farm is a must-visit. It's a working farm where the kids can learn about animals and even try their hand at farming.After exploring the gardens and parks, it's time to head to the next adventure - zoos and animal experiences.Zoos and Animal ExperiencesAfter exploring the gardens and parks, our family loves immersing ourselves in the world of wildlife at the zoos and animal experiences Salt Lake City has to offer. Here are three amazing places where you can have animal encounters and explore interactive exhibits:Hogle Zoo: Step into a wild adventure at Hogle Zoo, where you can meet a diverse range of animals from around the world. Get up close and personal with giraffes, elephants, and even lions! Explore the interactive exhibits to learn fascinating facts about these incredible creatures.Tracy Aviary: If you love birds, Tracy Aviary is the place to be. Discover a wide variety of bird species and learn about their habitats. Watch mesmerizing bird shows and take part in interactive exhibits where you can feed and interact with the feathered friends.Loveland Living Planet Aquarium: Dive into the depths of the ocean at the Loveland Living Planet Aquarium. Explore the interactive exhibits and get a chance to touch stingrays and sharks. Learn about marine life through educational programs and see the incredible diversity of underwater creatures.Now that we've had our fill of animal adventures, let's move on to the excitement of amusement parks and outdoor adventure!Amusement Parks and Outdoor AdventureAs we continue our exploration of Salt Lake City with kids, let's delve into the exhilarating world of amusement parks and outdoor adventure.Are you ready for some fun? Look no further than Lagoon Amusement Park! This thrilling park has it all - from heart-pounding roller coasters to refreshing water slides. Get ready to scream with excitement as you zoom through the air and splash into the pools.But the adventure doesn't stop there. Salt Lake City is also the home of the Utah Olympic Park, where you can experience the thrill of bobsledding and ziplining, just like the athletes did during the 2002 Winter Olympics.And if you're visiting during the winter, don't miss out on the Snowbird Ski Resort, where kids can take skiing and snowboarding lessons.Frequently Asked QuestionsWhat Are Some Family-Friendly Restaurants Near Temple Square?There are plenty of family-friendly restaurants near Temple Square. You can enjoy a delicious meal while exploring the area with your kids.Some popular options include The Roof Restaurant, which offers amazing views and a variety of menu options, and Blue Iguana, where you can indulge in tasty Mexican cuisine.Another great choice is Red Rock Brewing Company, which has a relaxed atmosphere and a menu that caters to both kids and adults.These restaurants are perfect for a memorable dining experience with your family.Are There Any Special Events or Exhibits Happening at the Natural History Museum of Utah?At the Natural History Museum of Utah, there are some special events and exhibits happening!One of them is DinoFest, where you can learn all about dinosaurs through fun activities and interactive exhibits. It's a dino-mite experience!And if you love science and movies, you won't want to miss Science Movie Night. You can watch cool science films and even learn some new things. It's a great way to have fun and learn at the same time!Can Children Participate in the Farm Tours at Wheeler Historic Farm?Yes, children can participate in the farm tours at Wheeler Historic Farm in Salt Lake City. They'll have a great time exploring the historic working farm, meeting the animals, and learning about farming.There are hands-on activities and farm experiences that kids will enjoy. It's a fun and educational opportunity for children to connect with nature and learn about agriculture.Wheeler Historic Farm offers a unique and interactive experience for kids of all ages.Do the Hogle Zoo and Tracy Aviary Offer Any Educational Programs for Kids?Yes, the Hogle Zoo and Tracy Aviary do offer educational programs for kids! They provide interactive exhibits, shows, and hands-on activities that teach children about different animal species and their habitats. These programs are a great way for kids to learn while having fun and getting up close with animals.Additionally, participating in farm tours at Wheeler Historic Farm can be beneficial as kids can learn about farming, interact with animals, and gain hands-on farming experiences. It's an educational and enjoyable activity for the whole family!Are There Any Height or Age Restrictions for the Roller Coasters at Lagoon Amusement Park?At Lagoon Amusement Park, there are safety guidelines and height restrictions for the roller coasters. These restrictions ensure that everyone can have a fun and safe experience. Some roller coasters may have minimum height requirements, so it's important to check before getting in line.The park has a variety of rides for different ages and thrill levels, so there's something for everyone to enjoy. Remember, safety always comes first when having fun at an amusement park!ConclusionAs we bid farewell to the vibrant city of Salt Lake, we leave with memories etched in our hearts like colorful brushstrokes on a canvas.From exploring historical sites, playing with interactive exhibits, and marveling at incredible wildlife, our adventure was like a rollercoaster ride of joy.Salt Lake City, you've truly captured our imaginations and sparked a love for learning and exploration in our little ones.Until we meet again, keep shining like the brightest star in the night sky. Read More : https://worldkidstravel.com/fun-things-to-do-in-salt-lake-city-with-kids/?feed_id=2067&_unique_id=65f93f8cd27f5
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2024.03.11 19:35 ActivismIdeas (!) Staff members of Academy at Ivy Ridge

It is claimed that at least 40 of her Ivy Ridge contemporaries have died by suicide or overdose, while countless others report suffering deep mental health issues.
Those individuals were all part of the problem. They must not work with children.
Administration (for images see this link)
Jason Finlinson - Director
Joe Mitchell - Assistant Director ()
Dave Gravlin - Program Manager ()
Diana Wakker - Human Resource Manager
Academics (for images see this link)
Joe Mitchell - Academics Director
Jake Finlinson - Math ()
Mike Moselle - History
Bonnie Franz - Teacher's Aid
Dawn Gauthier - Registrar
Family Reps (for images see this link)
Steve LaShomb - Family Rep. Supervisor ()
Tammy Harradine - Girls Family Rep.
Lori Mitchell - Girls Family Rep.
Heidi McGinnis - Boys Family Rep.
Lynn Crawford - Boys Family Rep.
Ann Morley - Boys Family Rep.
Vita Ingram - Girls Family Rep.
Penie Gray - Girls Family Rep.
Anne Marie Boyea - Boys Family Rep.
Emily LaVigne - Upper Level Family Rep.
Erica ScottBoys - Boys Family Rep.
Dorm Parents (for images see this link)
Tom Tracy - Supervisor
George Tulip - Supervisor
Bonnie Simpson - Girls
Tim Graveline - Boys
Don Edwards - Boys
Chris Showers - Boys
Carley Winmill - Girls
Loni Lichfield - Girls
Josh Smith - Boys
Brad Guasconi - Boys
Erik Brossoit - Boys
Chris Paxton - Boys
Susan Finlinson - Girls
Amy Ritchiev - Girls
Kelly Brienv- Girls
Jeri Ann Finlinson - Girls
April Bruyere - Girls
Florence Dedekker - Girls
Arleena McDougal - Girls
Jason Burchardt - Boys
Teri Dominie - Girls
Bill Whitaker - Boys
Matt Burham - Boys
Carrie Hollis - Girls
Tom Douglas - Boys
Erica Scott - Girls
Paul Kunz - Boys
Melissa Brien - Girls
Josh Rivera - Boys
Dave McCabe - Boys
Jennifer McDonald - Girls
Tami Pike - Girls
Maintenance (for images see this link)
Jason Finlinson - Director
Rick Lebel - Maintenance Supervisor
Rick Mason - Staff
Julie Mason - Staff
Rick Mason Jr. - Staff
Food Service (for images see this link)
Dave Gravlin - Food Service Manager
Jennifer Barr - Kitchen Supervisor
Martha Anderson - Chef
Chester Ford - Chef
Communications (for images see this link)
Diana Wakker - Human Resource Manager
Emily Brashaw - Administrative
Shelby Moore - Assistant Director of Communications
Night Watch (for images see this link)
Bill Whitaker - Supervisor
Dick Hatch - Staff
Larry Colburt - Staff
Dana LaFlair - Staff
Denise Tallman - Staff
Bernadette Fox - Staff
Mike Langley - Staff
Crystal LaRock - Staff
Marjorie Pease - Staff
Karen Parmeter - Staff
George Slate - Staff
Randy Garvey - Staff
Shirley LaPlane - Staff
Deborah McLear - Staff
Frank Tamburello - Staff
Penny Lawton - Staff
Medical (for images see this link)
Epp Mitchell - Supervisor
Nicole Breen - Medical Assistant
Rodger Hicks - Therapist
Pete Hrabchak - Therapist
Ted Rahn -Therapist
Bernie Smith Therapist
Cindy Mundt - Therapy Assistant
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