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2010.08.23 16:02 LRonPaulGraham Cool User Names

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2014.05.25 20:28 aloofloofah Cool Names

How vain, without the merit, is the name.
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2018.02.27 19:33 tovasshi Parenting Group Drama

Share the drama. Essential oils cure all? Anti-vax show down? Cat fight over circumcised dicks? We're here to judge the "no judge" culture of the internet parent groups.
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2024.05.15 17:29 AngelAnatomy Finally Rolled the Two Names I’ve Always Wanted to Use Together

Finally Rolled the Two Names I’ve Always Wanted to Use Together
I proceeded to get only 3 wins and failed miserably but hey the name was cool
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2024.05.15 17:29 ZookeepergameKey9469 Am I The Jerk for almost getting a rude person suspended at my school?

TL/DR; A really terrible 9th grade bully keeps coming after me about my red hair, so I snitch on her, leading her to almost get suspended, and to get kicked out of her weekend grade trip.
At my school, there's this girl Kylie (Not her real name) who goes to my school. For a bit of context, I am in my 3rd year of high school, and life has been pretty great other than with Kylie. She is 2 years younger than me, but even though she is so young, nobody other than her close group of friends and people she hasn’t picked on like her. She has a close friend group of the “popular girls” in their grade, so she has a lot of influence on everyone else her age.
On to the actual story now. Kylie is really mean to a lot of people both older and younger than her. As for me, a couple of months ago, she started coming at me for my red hair. I have very bright red hair, and she will not stop with her attacks on my hair. At the beginning, I was friends with her because she was the friend of a friend, so I thought it was just a joke and that it would stop, or just be a one and done. Little did I know that that was only the beginning of the nightmare that every interaction I had with her would become.
She started out by joking about me looking like Ed Sheeran, or asking where I hid my pot of gold, which I originally found pretty funny, but eventually it worsened. At one point, we were in the middle of a talk about something completely unrelated to anything with hair when she suddenly told me the truth hurts, then screamed, “All gingers deserve to be exterminated!”, as loud as she could in front of everyone, then just continued as though nothing had happened.
This next part needs some more context. There is a park near our high school that she claims for herself and her friends on all fridays. She kicks out anyone who she has not specifically told they could go to the park. She doesn’t even do anything, just standing around gossiping with her friends. The thing is, I really like hanging out there for breaks, because of all the benches around the park. So on one particular friday, I sat down with my sketchbook and started drawing, minding my own business and not making a sound. Kylie and her friends walk over to me and try to tell me to go away. The following interaction went something like this;
Kylie: Excuse me, OP, but you need to leave. This is our day, so you can’t be here.
Me: Sorry, what? This is a public park, I don’t need to move anywhere. Besides, I’m just minding my business. Could you leave me alone please?
Kylie started getting all up in my face and put her hand on my shoulder before saying that I should just leave before they have to make me. Another piece of context; the shoulder she had just forcefully put her hand happened to be the shoulder of the arm I just had vaccinated that morning. I calmly told her to take her hand off my arm, before I removed it myself. I went back and took a seat on another bench and went back to drawing. After a couple of seconds, I heard someone approaching me, and I looked up to see Kylie, with her fist drawn, and then she punched me in the arm I had the injection in.
When I say that it hurt, it hurt so badly that I broke down in tears and started crying on the bench as Kylie scoffed at me, rolled her eyes, and told me to stop over-reacting. All her friends started laughing at me, as one of my close friends, the friend who had introduced me to her, approached to see what all the commotion was about. Kylie turned around and called my friend over. Gesturing to me, she told my friend, “Thank goodness you’re here. Can you take that thing,” pointing at me, “ away from us?”
After I heard what she said, still crying, I went over to her and told her not to call me it or that, and to please refer to me as OP, or my pronouns. After a while, she just kept calling me it, that, ginger, monster, creature, you name it. Anything she could think of to describe me other than my name or pronouns.
Now for my revenge. I told the principal and vice-principal at our school how Kylie had been bullying me and a bunch of other students, and they said they would talk to her. Afterwards, she came to me fuming and screamed at me that I had almost gotten her suspended and she got kicked out of our school's next big trip. She then told me that I was going to regret doing what I did.
After this, I started noticing that she was avoiding me and not talking to me. I thought that this would all finally be over, but about a week ago, I passed her in the hallway, and she screamed, and hid while saying ginger over and over again. I told my school counselor, but she just told me there was nothing she could do, and that since I was older than her, I should just stand up for myself and be the bigger person, but this is really affecting me and my school experience, and I have no idea what to do. Should I try and get something more done about it, or should I stand up for myself and be the bigger person? Overall, Am I The Jerk?
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2024.05.15 17:28 Ellie_Llewellyn Welcome to r/MatthewRosedaleThe2nd

Welcome to MatthewRosedaleThe2nd!
What is it all about? Pure shithousery, that's what! This sub was made for the sort of emoji spam and predictive text posts that the mods over at MattRose banned but you can post about whatever you want within reason (except blatant ads or shameless OnlyFans plugs though promoting something cool is OK).
Having said that there are some rules so be sure to read them (or don't but they'll apply regardless). These are the ones we're starting with but I may add more later but I really don't want to have to do that.
Rule 1) Follow the Reddit T&Cs
Do you seriously need me to explain this rule?
Rule 2) Don't spam MattRose with shit from this sub
This sub was made for the sort of shitposts that the mods over at MattRose banned. Neaither me or this sub are associated with MattRose so out of respect for them, please keep the shithousery within this sub as they've tried awfully hard to clean up their sub and keep it about some guy named Matt Rose.
Rule 3) You may get banned at my sole discretion if I feel you're being too much of a prick
Shitposting is encouraged trolling is fine but sacrificing stray cats to Tezcatlipoca isn't. If you're ruining the fun too much then you may be banned at my sole discretion.
Rule 4) No blatant adverts
No blatant ads for businesses/OnlyFans ect. If for example you're an artist and you want to show off your work and you want to share your social media then that's cool. I guess it's basically up to my discretion really. If you do fall foul of this rule, I won't take the drastic step of banning you (unless in this circumstance I feel Rule 3 applies as well), I'll just remove the offending post.
Have fun ladies, blokes and non-binary folks!
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2024.05.15 17:26 Username-unknow_ Tell us what you think!

So we have an idea for what we think could be a really cool new event! And we’d love to know if you guys would like to see us do this 😁

Avatar Auction House!

So here’s the idea:
People would message us throughout the week with their avatars and NFTs they want to auction, We would make up the listings and once a week host the auction with all the listings! Here’s the catch, listings can’t exceed RRP, if someone bids the RRP price then they win the piece and that auction ends!
We want this to be fun and compassionate the idea isn’t profit and this wouldn’t be a place you’d sell your grails but this could be a fun way for people to clear out some avatars and NFTs they don’t really want anymore but also an opportunity for people to get some pieces at a deal!
Example of a listing,
Photo of the piece
Name:
RRP:
Starting price:
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2024.05.15 17:25 DaarthVector Watch Serie A: Napoli FC games

Hey there Reddit and DC!
I am curious if anyone knows of any spots that show the Serie A futbol games!? I live in Arlington, so basically anywhere in the DMV or nearby.
I am a Napoli FC fan, so preferably those games.
Any info about groups or just bars/restaurants that support and show the games would be appreciated!
Or if anyone is interested in just getting together and watching the games together, that would be cool too! I could use more friends lol
Grazie tutti! Ciao!
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2024.05.15 17:24 Sunbather- Punks eat pancakes. End of story.

There’s a very disturbing trend in the scene of punks and other alternative freaks preferring waffles over pancakes and some are even going as far as to prefer toast.
ARE WE JUGGALOS NOW?!
This is unacceptable.
Not only are we betraying our traditions and our heritage by consuming brand name waffles from luxury corporate chains like Waffle House.
We’re directly supporting the obsolescence of pancakes themselves.
Ever tried a pancake with banana slices in it? 🍌🥞
Didn’t think so, poser.
You’re at Waffle House supporting pancake genocide. because you’ve sold out and abandoned the cause.
Punks need to get back to being cool and avoid waffles at all cost.
Waffle punks fuck off. 🖕
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2024.05.15 17:24 DaarthVector Watch Serie A: Napoli FC games

Hey there Reddit and DC!
I am curious if anyone knows of any spots that show the Serie A futbol games!? I live in Arlington, so basically anywhere in the DMV or nearby.
I am a Napoli FC fan, so preferably those games.
Any info about groups or just bars/restaurants that support and show the games would be appreciated!
Or if anyone is interested in just getting together and watching the games together, that would be cool too! I could use more friends lol
Grazie tutti! Ciao!
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2024.05.15 17:24 PracticalIsopod1052 List of Duo/Trio/Group names - Found this on Pinstere the other month😇😈

List of Duo/Trio/Group names - Found this on Pinstere the other month😇😈 submitted by PracticalIsopod1052 to dreamsmp [link] [comments]


2024.05.15 17:23 LynchianPhallus Approaching a group of friends at uni

Approaching a friend group that looks nice and cool at uni
This past year I kept mostly to myself at university. I enjoyed being alone and on my own, having my own space during lectures and just going home after, not having to speak to people. However, in the past month I've noticed this friend group that formed itself in the past semester and that looks very nice and friendly, which I'd really like to approach, because I think it would be nice to finally be making friends.
However, I am way to shy to just approach a group of people that already know each other and additionally, today was the last exam of the semester, so I probably won't see them in the next 3 months. I don't know anything about them, I don't have their phone number or anything, I just know how somebody of them is called and could look up their uni-email. And if I were to approach them, by say, writing that person an email, I don't know if that would be too creepy and awkward and just too much in their face.
I don't know, should I just forget about it and try meeting people elsewhere (I don't go to the uni parties, I'm way too uncomfortable there)?
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2024.05.15 17:23 Wild_Meaning_6785 the huge elephant in the room taking a dump on the oriental carpet

i dunno. just thinking aloud here. - what is OSA famous for? - INFILTRATION. it has successfully invaded the lives of many ex-scientos, none of whom were unintelligent people. i strongly suspect OSA has infiltrated the SPTV zone. and when someone gets sent inside a group to spy, they will look and talk the part. who are the moles? is shouting curses at the police & passersby really the way to win over hearts and minds? yelling "coffin dodger" at older persons is ELDER ABUSE. shouting "eff you you psychotic pigs" is that really helpful or even cool? while SPTV goes after The Aftermath Foundation osa is clinking champagne glasses.....
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2024.05.15 17:21 n0vaxx_ Big Upgrade! Introducing the Universal 3D Player

Big Upgrade! Introducing the Universal 3D Player
Hey friends!
Just wanted to let you know about a big upgrade we made! We're ditching the Rekindle 3D app and moving to the all-new Universal 3D Player.
https://preview.redd.it/xn5c3j8zxl0d1.jpg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c91c351def5373b939e80d2ef4ffee0aab92fb4
Here's the cool stuff:
  1. Watch both 2D and 3D content - movies, shows, the whole deal!
  2. Access tons of sources: online streams, web links, and all your favorite services (Green Tube, Stremio, Kodi, Jellyfin, you name it!).
  3. Want to download something from Instagram or TikTok? The Universal Player can handle that too.
We've got some massive features coming soon, stay tuned for those!
Let us know what you think in the comments!
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2024.05.15 17:20 CellieBellie Cool outing ideas with work group?

Hello friends, my boss appointed me to figure out a cool activity to do next week as a kind of team outing/hooky day. There will be about 8-10 of us, and he said to find something fun, exciting, and not something any of us would normally do. So most of the usual suggestions wouldn't fit the criteria (bowling, laser tag, mini golf, wine and paint, etc.).
I found a place that does blacksmithing for corporate events, but they're all booked for next week. We're looking at a start time of 3ish PM. Anyone have any cool ideas? We'll be doing dinner and drinks afterwards too, and are looking at MoCo MD, NOVA, and NW DC areas mostly. I'd really appreciate some cool suggestions, thanks!!
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2024.05.15 17:20 Angry_Poop5 New Members Intro

HELLO! I know the name says Jojos Bouncin Boneheads but we just talk about any cool toys so uh yea welcome!
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2024.05.15 17:19 xBeLord I made a Edit about one of the arcs of my campaign,in a manga edit style [OC]

In this arc we were facing "the dark ones" a cult that wanted to control dragons,while the name of our group/association Is "the key of the truth",the last 2 after the beatdrop are important NPCs for our group,while the rest is the party
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2024.05.15 17:19 heysarahh RJOCD causing self-sabotage

hi i’m (F23) in a new relationship with a great guy (24) and recently went snooping when i shouldn’t have. i’ve dealt with retroactive jealousy in my previous relationship 2/3 years ago and it was out of control. while in that relationship, i went to therapy for it until we broke up shortly after due to other reasons. now that im in a new relationship, it has come back but not like how it was before. i grew since then and know where i can stop it from progressing to the full force that it was before.
going into my new relationship, i told him ahead of time that i wanted no information (like her name, or why they broke up, etc.) because i know where that would end up. he told me the slightest bit of info (that in university all his guy friends had girlfriends and everyone became one big group). it caused me to want to find her which i did. i feel like it turned the relationship sour because im feeling the same things as before. it felt like complete bliss up until this point.
for more context, him and a bunch of his friends moved to australia where i met him. i found out that these girls i’ve met and even his sister are GOOD friends with his ex. i feel like im just the new girl and very out of the loop. i can’t help but picture how they were together and the community they had back then. we already were working on our attachment styles (trying to become more secure together), getting into a new relationship but this is making me resentful when i really don’t want to be. our communication and understanding are great and i was working hard towards becoming more secure but this just opened a whole new can of worms. now when i get upset, instead of saying something to improve our situation i just think about his past relationship and get hurt over both things
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2024.05.15 17:17 Asutanashi [online] [5e] [EST] [morning games] [cant Wednesdays] Player looking to get back into DnD

Hello there! i am a 22 yo dude that lives in the US you can call me eli, asutanashi, asu or my char name. experience wise, i am decently experienced but a little rusty cuz i havent played dnd in a while. i usually work evening shifts (after 3pm EST) so im looking for a morning game. i wouldn't mind playing any class or filling any role and im pretty cool with house rules and systems as well as playing with long-time players and newer ones. my 2 preferences are fantasy worlds and smaller groups (3-4) players. i tried to add as much info as i can but please dont hesitate to ask me any questions. to clarify the cant Wednesdays in the title, Wednesdays i usually work full shifts so i cant play but every other day should be cool.
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2024.05.15 17:16 oaomcg A restart will fix it (but not how you'd expect)

The president of my company has been working out of our second office in another state all winter and was due to arrive back in town Monday. Friday afternoon I took it upon myself to do a once over in his office, restarting his printer and docking station to make sure everything worked smoothly since he'd been gone for a few months. I hate when he comes back in the building and something isn't working as expected because it's been sitting stale for so long. Everything seemed in line and I didn't anticipate any issues on Monday morning.
I get into my office at 7:51 and at 7:52 he walks in saying "Hey, I need your help with something."
"Sure. What's up?"
"Can you help me get these basketball tickets on my phone?"
Not what I was expecting, but at least nothing is broken. Normally if someone asked me for help with something like this I'd tell them to get lost but this guys name is literally on the front of the building so I agree to take a look. A colleague has sent him playoff tickets via a link in a text message. He clicks the ticketmaster link and it gives him an error. "Session suspended, try another location or another device." I take the phone, copy the link out of Safari, and try it in Chrome. Same message.
I ask him if we can go try the link on his computer and he agrees. I send the link to himself in an email so it will be in his inbox. We walk to his office and I have him pull up Outlook. He's about to open the message and he says "Oh, he also already emailed it to me" and shows me an email from the colleague with the ticket transfer message.
So I'm thinking "oh, this explains it. the guy retransferred the tickets via email so the fist link in the text is probably no good."
We open that link on his computer and he's able to log into his ticketmaster account and accept the tickets. They are in his account now, he should be good to go. But there is a message on the page saying "Your phone is your ticket, login from your mobile device to add the tickets to your wallet."
We go back to his phone and i just try pulling up the main ticketmaster(dot)com website and to my dread see the same "your session is suspended, try another location or device" message. Well, now i CAN'T use another device, it has to be THIS device so i can get the tickets into his apple wallet. I clear the browser cache and cookies. Same thing. I try incognito mode. Same thing. I switch from wifi to mobile data. Same thing.
I start looking up the error and it seems like ticketmaster has some checks in place and if it sees suspicious browsing behavior, it assumes you might be a bot trying to snipe tickets and blocks you. The TM support page says it's temporary and to try again later.
I tell the president i think it temporarily blocked him after he opened that first link so many times. We should let it cool off and try again later. "No problem. the game isn't until tomorrow."
I didn't see him the rest of the day and he took off early in the afternoon so we didn't have a chance to circle back.
He doesn't get into the office until about 11am the next morning and hands me his phone. It's been over 24 hours at this point, the temporary block must be gone. I open up the TM website and see the same freaking error... uh oh... I tell him there's still a problem and I need to figure out what to do next. He blurts out the passcode to his phone and heads out to lunch.
I take the device back to my office and start doing some research. Everyone online that has this problem gets the error because they are trying to do some shady crap to buy or reserve tickets and nobody has an answer for how to release whatever block TM puts on you. TM support articles say you just have to wait. I can't wait. The game is tonight. If he doesn't get these tickets, he's going to be out thousands of dollars and it's going to be MY fault because my fingers are all over this at this point. Is any of this even my job?
I figure the next step is going to be to grab a spare phone out of my supply, have him log into his apple id (if he even remembers the password), and accept the tickets from there. I'm not entirely sure how the apple wallet works. If he gets the tickets on one phone will they show up on his other one? I figure, worst case scenario, he has to carry this second phone with him to get into the game.
I'm waiting for him to get back from lunch to explain this asinine workaround when I think to myself "screw it. lets just restart this phone."
I restart the phone and am lucky I am staring at it while it starts up because once it does I see a message in the corner. For 1 brief second it says "VPN" and disappears. I go into the settings and find out that while this guy was out of town, he subscribed to a VPN service and installed it on his phone. Once I disabled it, the TM website worked perfectly normally. Saved again by a restart!
He came back from lunch and I said "I didn't realize you had a VPN on your phone." He says "Oh yeah, i got that a couple months ago. why?" I told him that the TM website apparently doesn't play well with with his VPN service and that once i disabled it, i was able to get to the website and that he should turn it back on once we get the tickets into his wallet.
He logs into the site, sees the tickets, and adds them to his apple wallet. Then i show him how to turn the VPN back on.
Mission Accomplished!
Then he turns back to me and says "So now, how do i transfer these to someone else?"...
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2024.05.15 17:14 TheDoomedHeretic Is the Idea of Evil a reliable narrator? [Little bit crackpot theory.]

I'm re-reading chunks of Berserk for a roleplaying thing and I specifically went to Griffith's encounter with the IOE where they go on their spiel about how humanity created them as something to pin their problems on, which is a thing that comes up pretty often in Bersek. I'dunno Miura's beliefs on spirituality and the afterlife, but, he seems to have made it a repeated point that the denizens of the world really like flocking to people that'll do all the protecting for them.
The refugees flocking to that one torture castle I forgot the name of, flocking to the soldiers and inquisitor guy to save them when they could literally just walk away and probably be fine, trying to sacrifice Casca, then flocking to Griffith's little utopia.
The IOE's story seems to line up with everything we've seen and narratively makes sense; God is literally a fucking evil monstrous heart lying in the abyss in a world that's pretty critical of group think and people always putting the blame on others.
But, I mean, what if he's just full of shit?
Yeah he says lots of things and comes across all self-assured in himself that humans made him and they're all to blame for the evil in the world, but, they're a massive, evil, floating heart that has a plot that involves killing god knows how many people where their servants are some of the most vile and deceitful creatures in existence. Is there any in-universe proof that this story he peddles isn't just to get his 'Angels' on board with the program of telling them 'Oh yeah you guys are totally vindicated 'cause the world is bad and you're just the apex predators in it, don't worry I'll definitely keep you around for eternity?'
Crackpotting done.
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2024.05.15 17:12 lezbopunkbytch-hahah what's a band name for a mostly alt pop group that consists of me (a teen) and my uncle whom i'm close with? (be serious, i beg you. no jokes.)

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2024.05.15 17:11 meac13 My ex best friend (22F) is dating my ex (22M) and stalks me, whats going on?

Hey guys, long story short my ex boyfriend was my first ever boyfriend who I was with for six years (he was a narcissist and very toxic), and had known him my whole life. My ex best friend was also my friend for those whole six years, and "supported" me when I has problems with him, and even during our breakup. Through the years, her jealousy started to show, she started leaving me out of our friend group, started telling people not to invite me, would post pictures were I was in cutting me out, organizing trips with my friends but leaving only me out, she would say that I could not go anywhere or have any other friends than her or she would get mad. I stood on my ground and ended my friendship with her. Once I cut communication with her she immediately started getting super close with my ex. What gets to me is the fact that she knows all that he has put me through and the fact that he was my first ever love.
Two years later with no contact with both of them, my ex friend still stalks to me, creates multiple fake accounts which im continuously blocking. The other day I had ENOUGH and confronted her through one of her multiple accounts, I said "Hey I know you are (her name) I don't like the fact that you have to hide to watch my stuff, whatever you want to do do it with your personal account, but creating fake accounts doesnt go with me" and I finally blocked that account because there was NO response from her.
My question is whats the psychology behind all of this? Why is she still looking out to see what im doing, and dating my ex? Is this part of the narcissism? idk
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2024.05.15 17:11 fortuneandfameinc How to deal with death... That isn't mine...

Back when I first started playing in around 2005, a friend, we will call him Martoth, because that is his in game name since then, joined me for our first adventure into Azeroth. We learned the game together and he kept playing long after I hung up the spurs. He was a solid paladin healer and healed on a shammy as well. I'm sure he has leveled most classes and done a majority of the end game raids through the years. He is an excellent healer. Top notch.
I brought him back to join us in hardcore. We were in our 40s and before we knew it, he had caught up. I mean sure, he took the trip back to elwynn 4 times in his first weekend, but martoth the 5th was our level within a week. Then he died while soloing. Pulled too many turtles in shimmering and went down. He was tired.
No problem. Marathon the 6th caught up to us again at level 52. He found edge masters and made a cool 2k gold. He kitted martoth the 6th to the 9s... top level profs, massive gear boosts, every consumable.
One happy Saturday morning, he decided to grind timbermaw rep in felwood. Got some funky respawns, goes down... with 700g in his back pocket...
Every time he dies he gets defensive and says he was fine, he was fine. All of his friends try and encourage him to change his behaviour. He says of course of course.
So out comes martoth the 7th. He still has some bank so he's reasonably geared. Hits 18, all his friends talk about trying to do DM that night. He gets working to make 19 before it gets late. We're all on comms. Then we hear, I'm going to die, I'm going to die...
He was clearing dead mines trash to mine... of course, we also hear 'I was fine, I was fine.'...
I know I can't change his behaviour, we've tried and tried. But what I can't get over is how frustrated I keep getting at deaths that would have been so easily avoided. I want to play with my old friend, and I really want my awesome pocket healer (no martoth has ever died in a dungeon). But I can't come to grips with my own crushing defeat when this keeps happening. Again and again.
I need a grief counselor or something (jk obviously). I know I have no control over the situation, but it keeps getting me in the guts every time I log on and he's 20 levels lower than the last time I logged on.
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2024.05.15 17:10 Chen_Geller Tolkien Begginings: the antecedents of Peter Jackson's (and others) Middle-earth

Tolkien Begginings: the antecedents of Peter Jackson's (and others) Middle-earth
I still sit sometimes and chuckle, thinking "When Ralph Bakshi started animating The Lord of the Rings in 1976, did he know what he was going to unleash on the world?" There was also the Rankin/Bass TV special, being developed concurrently, but its the Bakshi film that, in 1979, Peter Jackson saw, and this young Photoengraver would later direct six (!) live-action Tolkien films and, between himself and co-producer Philippa Boyens, are hard to work producing three more such films. Other adaptations since - namely, The Rings of Power (especially Season One) but also games from The Shadow of Mordor to Return to Moria - have at the very least taken cues from Jackson's films. All because a Kiwi photoengraver saw a cartoon....
But the relationship between these properties is not so clear-cut as it may seem. I ednumbered the similarities and dissimilarities between Jacksons' films and The Rings of Power elsewhere. Now I want to delve deeper into the similarities and dissimilarities between Jackson and previous adaptations of Tolkien.

The Rankin/Bass TV Specials

Side-by-side video comparisons between Jackson's films and the two Rankin/Bass TV Specials do not reveal any similarities that don't come from the fact that they're adapting the same books. This is an important point: Jackson is NOT trying to make some post-modern "collage" Hollywood film. He's only tipping his hat to those adaptations of Tolkien that he had seen growing up and that influenced him personally.1
Due to copyright, the Rankin/Bass specials probably didn't air in New Zealand at all, and although it seems Jackson got a hold of the Rankin/Bass The Hobbit before embarking on The Lord of the Rings, he had not seen their Return of the King, certainly before 1999, and neither he nor his close collaborators have made comments about either of the two Specials. By contrast, the (American!) showrunners of The Rings of Power had referenced the Rankin/Bass Specials, and seemingly tipped their hat to it in a set design for season two.2

The Ralph Bakshi film

As I said, Jackson went to see the Bakshi film. He had enjoyed some of Bakshi's previous film, including the Tolkien-esque Wizards, released the previous year, and went to see his latest. At the time he hadn't read the books, making Bakshi's film his first exposure to Tolkien, but he does admit he "heard the name" of the book beforehand. His biography suggests he saw it in late 1978, when it first premiered, but surely it would have arrived at New Zealand in early 1979.3
The connection between the two films had been played up, unsurprisingly, by Ralph Bakshi himself. A leonine, grandiose man, Bakshi is anything but a reliable narrator. His own suggestion that he hadn't actually seen the films - only trailers, he claims - sounds believable enough and certainy understandable.4 But, then, if he didn't watch them, it makes his critique of them as deriviative of his films all the more dubious, even without actually looking at the specifics of what he said:
Look at his Lothlorien. Look at my backgrounds of Lothlorien. Take a look! He had much more to see than I did, and if you don't think he lifted it over and over again, you're wrong. I mean, how did he design a knife in Lord of the Rings? How did he design a sword? How did he design the dwarf with his axe? How did he design the fur around him? Why did Peter Jackson put fur around the dwarf? Because I put fur around the dwarf! Why would the dwarf have fur naturally? You see, I could give you a billion little things. I wish I had a movie to look at.5
These are truly some confused claims, for the most part. The most credible part here is the Hobbits hiding under the branch from the Ringwraiths, a shot composition later to also be replicated in season one of the Rings of Power, and which we'll get to later.
Another claim of Bakshi's that cannot be dismissed out of hand is that, however big or small a debt Jackson owes to his film, he said that Jackson didn't publically acknowledge the influence and felt that it was only appropriate to have welcomed him to visit the set or something: by comparison, Jackson invited Rick Baker, who played King Kong in the 1978 version, to cameo in his King Kong.6
Jackson actually did mention the Bakshi filming in passing in the making-ofs. Then again, he entirely fails to mention the radio serial, either. Ultimately, Jackson possibly in cahoots with New Line Cinema, must have felt it unwise to point to a previous adaptation that had only achieved mixed success, at the outset of his own enterprise. He did talk more about the Bakshi film, and more fondly, in the director's commentary to The Fellowship of the Ring and in a couple of later interviews, which are significant gestures, but he clearly wasn't going to trumpet the influence Bakshi's film had on him off of every rooftop.7
In his 2006 biography, Jackson actually briefly reviews the Bakshi film:
I liked the early part – it had some quaint sequences in Hobbiton, a creepy encounter with the Black Rider on the road, and a few quite good battle scenes – but then, about half way through, the storytelling became very disjointed and disorientating and I really didn’t understand what was going on. However, what it did do was to make me want to read the book – if only to find out what happened!8
This is a complementary but admittedly mixed review, and Jackson had made similar comments since, calling it "brave and ambitious" but consistently decrying the hokum of the film's second half.9 Now, it is true that artists can be influenced by a work of art in spite of themselves, but lets see if we can try and quantify the influence.
From the outset, in the audio commentary, Jackson remarks that "our film stylistically is very different and the design is different," which is apposite: Bakshi swore a debt to Howard Pyle, which certainly leaves its mark of the gorgeous natural bakcdrops, but a source closer at hand (especially considering his follow-up fantasy film, Fire and Ice) is the most popular fantasy illustrator of his day, Frank Frazetta: Bakshi's Witch King is practically ripped from Frazetta's famous "Dark Rider" illustration.10
Jackson's approach, however, was steeped in a kind of romantic realism that by and large eschewed the heightened work of Frazetta, opening a yawning stylistic gulf between his film and Bakshi's on a general level. Bakshi's Hobbit-holes have overhanging roofs that give the impression of fairies living under mushrooms (which they in fact had in his previous film, Wizards) and the interiors of Bag End are earthen, more of a rabbit-hole than Jackson's English countryside villa. There are some similarities, like the Hobbits having similarly-clipped pants, but its hard to say costume designer Ngilla Dickson had Bakshi in mind for that look.
There's the basic structure of the narrative: both films leave some of the same plot beats out - Tom Bombadil, most notably - both intercut the Frodo and Aragorn storylines throughout (as per the appendices rather than the body of the text), and both open with a prologue. However, many of these are common-sense approaches that, if one were to put 100 screenwriters in a room, a good 90 of which would choose to pursue: in fact, Sir John Boorman's earlier Lord of the Rings script had likewise intercut the stories and redacted many of the same episodes as both Bakshi and Jackson, and similar approaches were taken in the 1958 Morton Zimmerman treatment. Certainly, in the case of the choice to pursue a prologue, a precedent closer at hand exists in the form in the 1981 radio serial, a point made all the stronger by the fact that when Jackson first concieved of and sketched the prologue, he hadn't seen Bakshi's film in 20 years.11
Bakshi did claim that New Line were screening his film repeatedly, but author Ian Nathan says that was never the case. Miramax did screen the film for Jackson in 1997, after he'd written the treatment. Jackson's treatment included Glorfindel and Erkenbrand, who in subsequent drafts are replaced by Arwen (Legolas in Bakshi's film) and Eomer, but still I find that it falls more into the realm of common-sense screenwriting decisions than anything that could be tied to Bakshi in a clear way, especially the latter which happens at the end of Bakshi film, a part of the film Jackson admits to have found incoherent.12
Rather, the place to look for similarities between the two projects is in the opening leg of The Fellowship of the Ring. Jackson actually, in the director's commentary, points out the shot of Odo Proudfoot calling "Proudfeet!" as a deliberate homage to Bakshi's shot, "which I thought was great." He doesn't acknowledge a couple - only a couple - of other shots that are quite similar: one is the evocative shot of the Ring tumbling over the rocks in Gollum's cave just before Bilbo finds it. Another still is an entire sequence of shots which misdirect us into thinking the Ringwraiths killed the Hobbits in their beds. Both are a little TOO similar to be waved away as coincidental.13
The Ringwraith shot is a more special case: It was nominally based off of a John Howe illustration, ostensibly of the Bakshi scene. But Jackson - who's quoted review of the Bakshi film mentions this scene - could hardly not notice the similarity to the Bakshi scene, especially since the scene doesn't at all play like this in the novel. What's more, the scene was first storyboared only shortly after Jackson say Bakshi's film for the second time, and shot not too long after that being that it was the first scene filmed. So its only fair to cite Bakshi as an influence on that shot.14
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There are other bits and pieces: did Jackson have Bakshi in mind when he added a scene of Saruman rallying up the Uruk-hai before the siege of Helm's Deep? Its hard to say. An even more elusive case is made by Bakshi: "I'm glad Peter Jackson had a movie to look at—I never did. And certainly there's a lot to learn from watching any movie, both its mistakes and when it works." In other words, Bakshi here suggests his film influenced Jackson in terms of what NOT to do. To his credit, Jackson does remember that the design process for Treebeard was in part motivated by trying to divorce him from the Bakshi version, which both him and Dame Fran Walsh remember as being "like a walking carrot." But when we start getting into that level, it all becomes very tenuous. There were a lot of things about the fantasy genre in general - Conan the Barbarian and Willow are oft-cited by Jackson - that he tried to avoid.15
Ultimately, I have to judge that the similarities between the two versions amount to a handful of rather insignificant beats, all in the first hour of Fellowship of the Ring. To hyperbolically play up the similarities between the two projects is to give in to Bakshi's hyperbolic rhetoric.

Tolkien illustrations

Jackson's first and, at the time, only copy of The Lord of the Rings was a tie-in to the Bakshi film. This would mean he hadn't gotten into the world of Tolkien illustrations until developing his own films, when he suggests he went on a detail-exhaustive search for Tolkien art. He had seen Tolkien's own illustrations, but decided that they're "not very helpful in terms of the lighting and the mood."16
The most acclaimed illustrators of the previous era of Tolkien were Pauline Bayens (whose Minas Tirith is reproduced in the Rankin/Bass Return of the King) and the Brothers Hildebrandt, whose bestial Balrog presents a precursor both to Bakshi's but also to the Minotaur-like Balrog of John Howe.17
Howe was one of a trifecta of Tolkien illustrators, along with Ted Nasmith and Alan Lee, to enjoy great vogue at the time when Jackson was developing his films. Of the three, Lee is often deemed the most celebrated and certainly made the biggest impact on Jackson, whose next copy of the book was to be an Alan Lee illustrated edition. But he also noticed Howe through is work on Tolkien calendars, and later also purchased some originals of Ted Nasmith. All three were approached to participate in concept design for the films, although Nasmith sadly had to decline.18
In many places, Jackson precisely copied designs of Lee's and Howe's existing paintings, and in some places carbon copied their lighting and composition for shots, as well as grading the films (before the advent of the latest remaster) somewhat along the lines established in their paintings. But the majority of Lee and Howe's work for Jackson was in producing NEW concept art to his specifications, and so its wrong to look at Jackson's films as being a part of the Lee-Howe ouevure, as such.

The 1981 Radio Serial

A less touted influence on Jackson's film is the superlative 1981 BBC radio serial. Where Jackson hadn't reread the book nor revisited Bakshi's film between 1979 and 1997, he had spent much of the that time listening on-and-off to a tape of the radio serial, usually while working in his garage on special effects.19
The most obvious similarity is the casting of Sir Ian Holm, who had voiced Frodo in the radio serial, as Bilbo. Holm was apparently at the top of Jackson's casting wishlist, partially for this reason. A particularly striking moment occurs when Holm's Frodo quotes Bilbo's "Its a dangerous business Frodo, going out your door: you step on to the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to", a line again given to Holm - now as Bilbo - in voiceover at the same spot in Jackson's film.20
Again, many of the similar structural choices here are similar to Jackson, adding a prologue, contracting the early stages of Frodo's quest and intercutting the Aragorn and Frodo's stories throughout. Brian Sibley admits to have modelled his prologue on Bakshi's own, but Jackson is unlikely to have known it at the time, and when we start thinking in terms of second-hand influences we're again into very tenuous territory. Otherwise, the influence doesn't seem all too great, although Sibley remembers that Walsh, perhaps half-jokingly, told him "we stole your ending" in the way that they did the Grey Havens and then a quick segue to Sam's return home, basically along the lines of the book.21
A young, and already Tolkien-devotee, Sir Ian Holm recording Bilbo
Sibley had recruited his cast from the BBC's company of actors, which is also the troupe Bakshi turned to, meaning that Sibley ended-up with Bakshi's Boromir (Michael Graham Cox) and, notably, his Gollum (Peter Woodthorpe). In spite of Woodthorpe's evocative performance of Gollum's voice in both the Bakshi and Sibley versions, its influence on Andrew Serkis' performance of Gollum is nonexistent, as Serkis had developed the voice before having heard Woodthorpe rendition, having only read The Hobbit prior to being cast.22

Other fantasy films

Jackson had seen pretty much all the fantasy films of the 1980s, and while they were important in terms of establishing the genre, they hadn't left much of an impression on Jackson. The most succesful - George Lucas' Star Wars - was more space-fantasy, undoubtedly impressed Jackson but didn't much influence his films: to this day, he professes to not be a huge Star Wars fan, in spite of the amiacable manner he and Lucas took with each other in later years, and admits that he sees the influence of Lucas more "in what he did for the industry, not in terms of the actual films that he made."23
The first major high-fantasy film, Sir John Boorman's Excalibur, was a little closer to Jackson's heart, but isn't much of an influence on his films either. Its true that Jackson's films feature a lot of plate armour, but that's indebted primarily to John Howe's abiding love of late Medieval armour, and at any rate is quite different to the Enlightement-era suits of armour one finds in Boorman's film. Willow, produced by George Lucas, was a big shot to the arm of New Zealand's fledgling film industry, and like Star Wars is much indebted to The Hobbit, but left a bad impression on Jackson.24
The Clockmaker's Cottage in Sir Ridley Scott's Legend
Two exceptions are to be cited; Ray Harryhousen's stop-motion fantasy films from the 1950s were huge favourites of Jackson's, although their more Graeco-Roman subject matters were a genre apart from Jackson's films. He is also a big fan of Sir Ridley Scott, and while he joins the consensus of deriding William Hjortsberg notorious screenplay, had taken some cues from his Legend (1986): there's something of the Clockmaker's cottage in Rhosgobel, and Jackson referenced some of the features of Tim Curry's devilish "Lord of Darkness" for the Wargs sinewy faces.25

Other films

Jackson took influence from paintings of old battles and landscapes, but surely his biggest influences are other films: Zulu and Saving Private Ryan had been referenced for Helm's Deep, and there's a touch of Terrence Malick's The Thin Red Line, which Jackson had watched before principal photography, to the atmospheric shots that close the Fellowship prologue. Jackson admitted to rewatching mostly Scorsese films while shooting, and certainly the energy of his moving cameras find a closer kin in Scorsese's films than in anyone else's. There's something of David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia to Jackson's intention to make living, breathing people out of his fantasy characters.26
Surely the inspiration for the shot of Aragorn arriving at Helm's Deep
But there's one film that looms largest in Jackson's films, overshadowing any influence we're looked at so far: Mel Gibson's latest spectacular, Braveheart. Along with other films of this kind like Dances with Wolves and Rob Roy (Gladiator came too late to much influence Jackson's films) it is of crucial importance to the overall cinematic style of Jackson's films, having come out just as Jackson first started thinking of making an original fantasy film, and winning the academy award for Best Picture before any sustained work was done to develop The Lord of the Rings.27

Footnotes

  1. Matt Skuta, "The Hobbit Side-by-Side: Rankin/Bass ('77) & Peter Jackson ('12-'14)" and "Return of the King Side-by-Side: Rankin/Bass ('80) & Peter Jackson ('03)," YouTube, 15 February 2018.
  2. The Rankin/Bass Specials were only made exploiting a loophole in the publication of Tolkien's books that temporarily made them public domain States-side, but meant that their airing was limited to the US, and subsequent a legal agreement with the Tolkien Estate, Canada. Jackson says he hadn't seen their Return of the King in an interview from late 1998. Eric Vespe, “ 20 QUESTIONS WITH PETER JACKSON – PART 2 Ain’t It Cool News,” , 30 December 1998.
  3. Brian Sibley, Peter Jackson: A Filmmaker's Journey (London: Harper Collins, 2006), pp. 107-111.
  4. Kyle, ""Legends of Film: Ralph Bakshi," Nashville Public Library, 29 April 2013.
  5. Emru Townsend, "INTERVIEW: Ralph Bakshi", Frames Per Second, 2 July 2004.
  6. Ken P., "Interview with Ralph Bakshi," IGN, May 25, 2004. Broadway, Clifford Q., "The Bakshi Interview: Uncloaking a Legacy". The One Ring, 20 April 2015.
  7. Anonymous, "From Book to Script," and Peter Jackson et al, "Director's Commentary," both in Peter Jackson, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (New Line: 2002). Also Anonymous, "Peter Jackson interview". Explorations (Barnes & Noble, November 2001). Peter Jackson interview at the Egyptian Theater, 6 February 2004.
  8. Sibley, pp. 109 ff.
  9. Director's Commentary.
  10. Ned Raggett, "The Trouble With Ralph Bakshi’s The Lord Of The Rings & Other Tolkien Misadventures", The Quietus, 19 November 2018
  11. Ian Nathan, Everything You Can Imagine: Peter Jackson and the Making of Middle-earth (London: HarperCollins, 2017), p. 138.
  12. Peter Jackson et al, The Lord of the Rings, quoted in Sibley, pp. 109, 704, 751.
  13. Director's Commentary.
  14. Celedor, "10 Things You Know About The LOTR Movies (That Aren’t True)," TheOneRing, 11 June 2013.
  15. "Interview with Ralph Bakshi."
  16. Sibley, p. 738-744. Exeter College, Oxford, "Sir Peter Jackson in conversation: Exeter College Oxford Eighth Century Lecture Series", YouTube, 30 July 2015.
  17. Howe admits to the influence of the Hildebrandts, and in turn his own bestial Balrog would influence those of Alan Lee and Ted Nasmith. This would be popularised by Jackson, and finally emulated by Rings of Power. John Howe, "First Thing's First," John-Howe, 6 January 2012.
  18. "Sir Peter Jackson in conversation", Sibley, 738-744. The One Ring, "Peter Jackson MISSED OUT! Talking Tolkien with Renowned Artist Ted Nasmith," YouTube, 11 July 2023.
  19. Nathan, p. 123, NB 1008.
  20. Nathan, p. 258.
  21. Nerd of the Rings, "Brian Sibley, writer, BBC's The Lord of the Rings (1981) - Interview," YouTube, 20 April 2021.
  22. Nathan, pp. 621 ff
  23. "Sir Peter Jackson in conversation"
  24. “20 QUESTIONS WITH PETER JACKSON – PART 2"
  25. Ibid.
  26. Nathan, pp. 158, 393, 645.
  27. u/Chen_Geller, "How Masterpieces beget Masterpieces: Braveheart and The Lord of the Rings," Reddit, 23 June 2021.

Conclusions

Any notion that Jackson's films are derivative of previous Tolkien adaptations - namely, Bakshi's - are very much hyperbolic, and stem more from adopting an inflated rhetoric taken by the likes of Bakshi. As an adaptation, Jackson's works are based soley on Tolkien's books, and merely tip their hat occasionally to previous adaptations - and not all previous adaptations, either. Cinematically, they draw rather from other sources: less from other adaptations of Tolkien or other fantasy film (Tolkien-esque or not) and more from historical epics, both from the 1960s but also and especially from the time in which Jackson first started developing his films.
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