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2013.09.02 21:48 indieislove Support

Anorexia Nervosa is a real, serious illness that affects thousands upon millions of people daily. The people that have this illness are not attention seekers, they are not dare devils, and telling us to "just eat" is not helpful in any way shape of form. This is a safe place for those with this illness, and for those that are in recovery. Violating this safe place will end up as a permeant, unappealable ban. This is your warning.
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2024.05.12 11:33 Key-Talk-5171 On Paediatric Sex Trait Modification

What does the evidence say in favour of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for gender dysphoric youth? As we will see, it doesn't say much, at all. Systematic reviews are at the top of the evidence-based medicine pyramid, examining the literature in depth using non-biased, objective measures to determine its quality. We'll be looking at those, as well as what the guidelines for paediatric gender medicine are in some European countries. If you were to pick out countries that have an interest in deliberately misconstruing evidence to push an ideological narrative, these countries, some of the most progressive in the world, wouldn't even be in the hat.

Evidence

First, let's look at a systematic review funded by WPATH, you can't get any more pro trans than this. If any review were to find high quality evidence on these interventions, it would be this one. After finding studies that met certain inclusion criteria, they used prestigious Cochrane guidelines to evaluate their quality. For all outcomes but death by suicide, evidence was graded low, death by suicide evidence was graded insufficient. For a study funded by WPATH, this is the first indication that the evidence for these interventions is remarkably weak. We've all heard the phrase "do you want a living son or dead daughter?", and we now know it is based on no substantive evidence of any kind.
Next, there was a systematic review funded by the Swedish Agency for Health Technology Assessment and Assessment of Social Services (SBU) to construct guidelines for treating gender dysphoric youth in Sweden. They concluded;
GnRHa treatment in children with gender dysphoria should be considered experimental treatment of individual cases rather than standard procedure.
Swedish guidelines are as follows;
At group level (i.e. for the group of adolescents with gender dysphoria, as a whole), the National Board of Health and Welfare currently assesses that the risks of puberty blockers and gender-affirming treatment are likely to outweigh the expected benefits of these treatments
They say that using these treatments are only warranted in "exceptional" cases, whatever this means. They also state that these experimental treatments should only be offered within the context of a research setting, not standard treatment for gender dysphoria.
Both Swedish and Finnish guidelines state that psychosocial therapy as first line treatment for gender dysphoria, as well as looking at the presence of other mental health co-morbidities.
We also have a report from the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board (Ukom) which investigates systems and processes in healthcare, identifying factors that could have led, or could potentially lead, to harm for patients. This is regarding the evidence for sex trait modification in youth.
They say;
The knowledge base, especially research-based knowledge for gender-confirming treatment (hormonal and surgical), is deficient and the long-term effects are little known. This is especially true for the adolescent population where the stability of their gender incongruence is also not known. There is a lack of research-based knowledge on the treatment of patients with non-binary gender incongruence. In order to safeguard patient safety, Ukom considers it necessary to strengthen the knowledge base on gender incongruence and gender dysphoria, and to align the health service offering with the knowledge base.
Puberty delaying treatment (puberty blockers) and hormonal and surgical gender reassurance treatment for children and adolescents are defined as investigational treatment. This is especially important for teenagers with gender dysphoria.
Investigational treatment in this context means: all treatment where efficacy and safety are not sufficiently documented for the treatment to be included in the ordinary treatment offer. I.e. puberty blockers and CSH shouldn't be included in routine treatment for gender dysphoric youth. It isn't routine treatment because there is insufficient evidence that it is actually effective and that the benefits outweigh the risks.
Additionally, there is a German systematic review of the evidence that was released earlier this year, building upon the NICE reviews out of the United Kingdom performed a few years ago.
The available evidence on the use of PB and CSH in minors with GD is very limited and based on only a few studies with small numbers, and these studies have problematic methodology and quality. There also is a lack of adequate and meaningful long-term studies. Current evidence doesn’t suggest that GD symptoms and mental health significantly improve when PB or CSH are used in minors with GD. Psychotherapeutic interventions to address and reduce the experienced burden can become relevant in children and adolescents with GD.
The Bundesärztekammer (German Medical Association passed a resolution calling on the German Federal Government to restrict the use of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for under 18s to a controlled research setting only, aligning with Swedish and Finnish practice. They cite the reasoning;
The current medical evidence clearly states that puberty-blocking drugs (PB), cross-sex hormone treatments (so-called cross-sex hormone Administration [CSH]) and gender reassignment surgery (e.g. mastectomy) do not improve GI/GD symptoms or mental health in minors with GI/GD. These are irreversible interventions in the human body in primarily physiologically healthy minors who cannot give informed consent in the absence of evidence for such measures.
This is in direct opposition to pro-trans-affirming draft guidelines published by the smaller association AWMF, which is odd given the aforementioned systematic review showing no good evidence for sex trait modification of minors in treating GD. But even if these guidelines are finalised, the GMA resolution strongly signals a possibility that they won't be widely accepted.
So, to any person reading who is in favour of turning children into sterile, life-long medical patients, what's more likely, do the health authorities in Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany and the UK all hate transgender people and want gender dysphoric youth to kill themselves, or are you simply the party who is wrong on this topic?

Safety

We have considered the evidence in favour of sex trait modification in youth to treat gender dysphoria, as we have seen, there is no good evidence that they produce improved mental health outcomes. First, it must be emphasised that there are no long-term longitudinal studies on children given puberty blockers to block normally timed puberty looking at effects that might arise in adulthood, there are none of this nature. We know that over 90% of kids who are treated with puberty blockers go on to receive cross-sex hormones which most probably results in permanent sterility, as there are no methods of fertility preservation. Meanwhile, most kids not given medication desist in their dysphoria over time. This lends credence to the view that puberty blockers "lock in" a certain gender identity, and thus the hypothesis that blockers are "buying time to think" is false, as they almost always go on to take cross sex hormones. Children are not mature enough to give up future fertility entirely in return for unsupported mental health benefits.
Since nearly all participants started GnRHa after turning 13 and underwent a thorough diagnostic assessment before treatment was started, it is likely that most people starting GnRHa experienced sustained GD. Still, one cannot exclude the possibility that starting GnRHa in itself makes adolescents more likely to continue medical transition
https://academic.oup.com/jsm/article/20/3/398/7005631?login=false
Profound effects on future sexual function may even occur when puberty is paused and later allowed to proceed, since the precise timing of hormone exposure during the peripubertal window is a determinative factor in adult sexual function
There may be a possible underlying cause for why it is practically guaranteed for children that receive puberty blockers to go on to receive cross sex hormones, which collectively entail permanent castration. We know that the inferior fronto-occipital fasciculus (IFOF) has been implicated in playing a predominant role in the neural basis of visual/body perception, and that alterations in this area of the brain pays a role in the pathophysiology of anorexia nervosa. Interestingly, even after for controlling for sexual orientation, which we know can cause brain-sex atypicality in the case of homosexuality (and thus confounding for gender dysphoric persons), studies have shown reduced white matter integrity in the IFOF in transpersons, the same area of the brain that is altered in cases of anorexia nervosa. It has been reported that a dose dependent inverse relationship exists between amount of puberty blocker given to gender dysphoric adolescents and white matter integrity in the IFOF, in essence, this may be a potential mechanism as to why puberty blockers solidify the gender dysphoria.
There is also a concern in regards to brain maturation as a result of adolescent sex hormones, neural circuits to do with executive functioning are thought to be rewired during this critical period of puberty. If this is case, brain maturation during puberty may be temporarily or permanently disrupted as a result of these puberty blockers. This could have significant long term neuropsychological consequences including impact on the ability to make complex risk-laden decisions. Because we have no long term studies on the usage of puberty blockers, extreme uncertainty about its long-term effects make prescribing such drugs undesirable, especially given the fact that no good evidence exists for their efficacy.
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2024.04.29 21:09 giselleepisode234 I am tired of men talking about how recovered bodies are fat

This is really damaging to people recovering from ana and it shows how males only say these things to control womens outlook on their bodies. They want to control everything about you and gaslight you into thinking anorexia is just about food or just doing it for male attention. This is a complex mental illness than men exploit and use to piss all over you and show you are not human because you are an easy target in his eyes.
They are so tone deaf to your needs, and manipulate, force feed, scream at you for having a mental illness then jerk off because they made you cry. They only see women with EDS as tools to control ans see you relapsing as attention seeking and make you eat more forecfully, gaslight you, insult you, manipulare you , shame your body, point out your bodily changes and trigger you on purpouse, they bring up your fears and insecurities about your body, they say you are overreacting and constantly act horrible if you do recover from anorexia. They treat you less than human with mental illness and many guys do this and have no empathy towards women whom suffer from anorexia or other eating disorders.
Due to implying recovered bodies is fat ignores the benefits of weight gain and being healthy but due to males being influenced by porn, anime, hentai and sexually charged content that promotes young looking girls , teens and kids as sexually desirable they think a woman being underweight (which in terms of anorexia is harmful) is desirable. Recovered bodies is NOT OBESITY/ FAT, IT IS THE WEIGHT YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER LOST.
They claim your before picture was better, they see you in a state of illness as easy to manipulate and berate and if you end up in hospital he will cheat and leave. Most of these males only seek to break women like a toy because most males get off to that. If they try to help they expect sex in return EVERY DAY on his terms, being your boyfriend and it is NOT because he wants to see you healthy.
They dont see you gaining weight as a good thing to them its a bonus for implementing nasty and degrading sex like in porn and he will blame you for causing EDs onto yourself.
If you do suffer from a psychotic break or unalivement , its YOUR FAULT too for not being strong enough and playing the victim. They cannot conceptualise issues unless it benefits them or they can weaponize YOUR trauma against you.
Any good job they congratulate you with is hallow and empty because they get mad ans jealous you can overcome and most males give up on life by 10 so they use and vreak women as a way to feel powerful.
Please do not not all men this post because the amount of virtrol I see and received due to having this illness makes me rethink relationships and I understand my body image is not okay due to males in my life body shaming me and not bringining up I might have an ED as a child/ teen since they benefitted from me being not mentally well by abusing me.
What they are commenting under mid size women posts disturbs me because most of these women are not fat and they equate being anorexic or super skinny and small to be desirable to them AKA they want you vunerable so that when they get aggresive you do not have the strength to fight back.
After an era of pro ana, women can recover and be free from diet culture and they insert their irrelevent opinion when they have 0 knowledge about mental illness or question but resort to manipulating, gaslighting, abusing your food by eating it all or demanding you do this for him, checking your weight/ BMI constsntly. It is about CONTROL for males and the best way to recover is stay away from all of them.
P.s - It starts with these dads talking about you bony b***, you are looking chunky, sexualizing your body after puberty and being a creep and other guys making nasty or innapropriate comments about your weight which is re enforced by pick mes parroting diet culture and media that depicted being underweight as ideal. At the core it is a beauty standard created by and upheld by men and they gaslight, berate and insult their daughters to make them feel worthless and be susceptible to manipulation from other males in society.
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2024.04.25 09:31 freefalling444 i had a friend at 12-14 who was my pro-ana "coach" AMA

not sure if coach is the right word, but she would consistently track all my food, comment on my appearance, talk about anorexia, and tell me the world's most triggering pro-ed stuff.
also would always complain about how she wished she was skinny and talk about how i "looked so anorexic" when i hit sub 15 bmis.
first time ive ever talked about this anywhere (im almost 20 lol) so literally AMA
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2024.04.25 06:00 Plenty-Good6290 My pro-ana friend

So recently my friend found out I’m anorexia. Literally the day she found out she started making jokes about it. She’s normally the type of person to make really weird jokes (sex jokes) that made the whole friend group uncomfortable. But now she’s making anorexia jokes and it’s happening more frequently. Her jokes are coming off as more serious then a funny joke. Some of the stuff she says are stuff like “you need to go on a liquid diet.” “you can’t chew gum, gum has calories.” There’s been times where she’s said these jokes in front of my other friends.
I’m really getting tired of her. Im considering unfriending her. The only problem with me unfriending her is that shes in my friend group so if I stop talking to her it’ll be so awkward. But id rather stop being friends with her then to remain friends with someone who is pro-ana.
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2024.04.07 07:37 No-Reason4953 TW: I Just Don't Feel Sick Enough

I've struggled with body image things for maybe 6 years now. It started when my male doctor called me fat. To be fair I was. I did need to lose weight. I was completely healthy but I constantly looked pregnant and my BMI was in the overweight section. One time someone asked me when I was due and I had to say oh I'm not pregnant.
For years I've declined that I have an eating disorder because I'm not sick enough. I keep telling myself that I'm not good enough at my ED to get better. I feel like I only get to recover once I'm deathly ill and have to be forcibly hospitalized.
My mother was anorexic as a young adult and talked to me a lot about it when I was younger. That really triggered me. My parents had a friend as teenagers that died from anorexia.
But me, I wouldn't qualify for diagnosis. I haven't lost enough weight, I'm just barely in the healthy BMI, barely not overweight. I cut sugar almost entirely out of my diet about 2 years ago. I started intensely exercising and making up rules for my eating and exercise.
I think I've been trying to make myself sicker so I'll be valid. I used to eat about 1000 cals a day but recently I decided that's not good enough because I plateaued. And pro-ana things say that I should eat less, so I've been trying.
I'm down to about 600 cals a day. I exercise after waking up and before sleeping. I'm not allowed to eat dinner if I haven't reached 5000 steps by a certain time. I have to take the stairs, I live on the 5th floor. That's not a big deal for most people but I have a chronic pain disorder so 5 flights of stairs makes me extremely lightheaded and like I'm about to die.
I've been feeling sicker and sicker but I still am barely losing any weight. I feel so sick but I'm just not good enough at this to get better. It's like I feel like I have to reach a real low before it counts. I've lost almost 40 pounds since I started and I'm finally starting to like my body. I still have 20 pounds until my goal weight.
My parents are starting to get worried. They say I don't need to lose any more weight and that I'm beautiful. I don't feel beautiful. I don't feel skinny. The numbers would disagree with my parents. My parents are both obese and on doctor enforced diets for health reasons. And they lose weight so easily.
I'm scared of what I'm doing to myself but I also need it to count. Because if I'm not on death's doorstep then I guess I'm not actually anorexic. There are people so much sicker than me. It feels like it's honestly a choice for me. Like I could just choose to stop doing this. But I just don't want to.
I'm not pretty enough yet. My stomach isn't flat. I haven't reached my goal weight. My ribs barely show. I'm still healthy. I'm nowhere close to losing my period. I don't know what to do anymore.
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2024.04.07 07:18 Sensitive_Ad5521 “Clean Girl” is just Tumblr Pro-Ana rebranded

As the title says. I know tiktok is a hotbed for micro trends, but the clean girl aesthetic is such a flashback to the pro anorexia culture from the early 2010s
The fridge restocking and minimalism is whatever, but the aesthetic is now including diet advice, water intake, running tips, etc. Aside from the skin care obsession, the focus on appearance, and not just clothing, is incredibly dangerous.
The narrative that to be “that girl” or an “it girl” including body judgement and food intake is so twisted. Tumblr, Twitter, even google deleted anything to do with searching up the old pro-Ana content, but younger teens don’t even remember that era and are falling back into the pattern that millennials and older genZ fought so hard to erase.
I’m all for wanting to wear less makeup if that’s a choice, wanting all white and beige items if that’s a choice, but when you have to look and eat a certain way to fit into a box, or meet a standard for an “aesthetic”, it’s just promoting eating disorders in young people and I hate it
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2024.04.05 03:35 FalconPlayzYT my friend told no one about her anorexia.

TLDR: friend is anorexic and i’m concerned. Hi, my friend F(14) who 1 year ago moved schools fairly far (1 hour drive) recently confided in me M(14) that they struggle with food and potentially had an ED. as she continued to vent at 3AM she revealed she had been on a binge-restriction cycle for about 4 months, eating at times 500 calories a day. (she became conscious of diet culture and body image around 1 year ago) she confirmed that she was anorexic and had been on pro-ana forums.
My friend and i aren’t particularly close friends, but she felt that i could be spoken to being from a different gender and different school.
My question is: how can i help her? the mortality rate of anorexia scares me and i want the best for her.
  1. her parents are aware that she struggles with food (not to the extent of anorexia though) (asking her to go to therapy seems hard, how would i approach it?)
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2024.04.02 04:18 primal_slayer Flashback article: 1992 Scenes From the Cast Struggle in Beverly Hills 90210

Flashback article: 1992 Scenes From the Cast Struggle in Beverly Hills 90210

Luke
Keep your feet on the ground, even though friends flatter you,” reads the fortune that slips from Luke Perry‘s cookie, sage advice for a man whose face adorns the country’s bestselling heart-shaped pillow and whose mobbed personal appearances make Ayatollah Khomeini’s funeral look like a church social. “I had a girl in Denver, she just wasn’t breathing,” he says. “She fainted right in front of me. And I was going, ‘Hey, hey, breathe, hey, hey.’
“I don’t like that,” he says. “I mean, I could understand if I was the King.” He gestures toward a decanter shaped like Elvis Presley. “But I ain’t.” Perry is sitting in the relative calm of a Hollywood Chinese restaurant decorated with celebrity kitsch and photographs of stars both hot and forgotten, household names and Frankie Avalon. He says he doesn’t make public appearances anymore. “They can’t be made secure,” he rasps, typically underplaying the line. “I’m through with the laundry mass-transit system.” Last May he had to be smuggled out of a mall in Seattle in a laundry hamper when throngs of adolescent female fans ran lemminglike into the barricades. In August thousands more worshipful teens rushed a portable stage constructed for Perry’s appearance and squashed each other like grapes. A dozen were rushed to a hospital, and anchormen around the country got to read droll copy like “A teenage crush turned into a crush of teenagers.” “If they hurt each other,” Perry says, “it’s a bitch.”
The cause of all this flattering ferocity is the Fox television show Beverly Hills, 90210, in which Perry portrays Dylan McKay, ultracool high-school loner, AA member and, according to Perry, “staggering intellect.” On the show, Perry and his costars Jason Priestley and Shannen Doherty deal with problems ranging from curfews to AIDS. After premièring in the fall of 1990 to wretched ratings and reviews — with a lead-in called Babes and a time slot shared with Cheers — 90210 seemed like a certain candidate for cancellation. But a devoted cult following grew into a national youth movement, and actors who’d originally planned on a few weeks’ work became superstars.
As a result, Perry’s gone from toiling in a doorknob factory (“I cleaned up, scraping up big fucking glops.” he says, knocking an ash from his cigarette, “cleaned the acidic waste off the shit — it was horrendous, man”) to being the subject of books like Luke-Mania! and Loving Luke (his “intensity” is “skyrocketing him into the upper reaches of the ‘most-loved’ hemisphere,” said 16 magazine). He recently got the ultimate stud certification when he was linked in the tabloids with Madonna (“TV heartthrob Luke Perry is the latest hunk to fall into the clutches of man-eating Madonna,” reported The Globe).
Overwhelmed by his new status as a sideburned sex symbol, Perry has sought guidance from someone who’s been there. “Jason and I went out with Tom Jones, had some drinks and dinner,” says Perry. “You know, basically getting advice on ‘Look, Tom, this shit is happening to us really quickly, and how do we deal with it?’ ” Before the evening was done, Perry and Priestley had sung some slightly off-key backup to Jones, warbling “I Want You, I Need You” and “Love Me.” “It was unbelievable, man,” says Jason Priestley. “I mean, what right did we have to be sitting there at a table with Tom Jones?”
His incredulity is understandable: This unlikely star summit conference would not have happened without several crucial twists of fate. For example, if Beverly Hills, 90210 had premièred on any network other than Fox, it would have been canceled before it caught on, and the chances that T.J. — as his new friends Priestley and Perry call him — would hang out with the two young actors would be slim to none. But Fox gave the show a chance to climb its way out of the ratings cellar, partly because the network, which had just expanded to four nights of programming, had no backup show to replace it.

Cast
The casting of the show was equally fluky. “There were four teen shows going on that first season,” says 90210‘s creator, thirty-year-old Darren Star, “and we were the last ones to cast, and I really thought we were getting, like, the dregs.”
Star was a screenwriter in 1990 when he came to Fox with the idea of doing a teensomething. Fox chief Barry Diller already had the idea of doing a series set at Beverly Hills High School. Shazam! The show was shopped to Aaron Spelling, who has produced enough prime-time TV footage to strangle an army, including such shows as The Love Boat and Dynasty. Spelling was at first reluctant. “My first reaction was ‘Why me?’ ” says the silver-haired producer. “I hadn’t done a young show since Mod Squad, for God’s sake.”
But Spelling quickly warmed up to the project, and it became a family affair when his eighteen-year-old daughter, Tori, joined the cast. (The story goes that Tori auditioned under the name Toria Mitchell for the director of the pilot, who had “no idea” who she was.) Today, Aaron Spelling, creator of Nightingales and Charlie’s Angels, finds himself shifting in his seat whenever his daughter appears onscreen in a skimpy outfit. “They always put her in the smallest bikinis in the world,” he says. “As a producer, I don’t mind, but as a father, well … the mermaid outfit really freaked me out.”
In the pilot the Walshes, a wholesome family from Minnesota, have just moved to Beverly Hills because of the father’s job transfer. The culture of this Southern California Gomorrah is exciting and alien to their kids, twins Brenda and Brandon (played by Doherty and Priestley). After their first day at the fictional West Beverly High, they attend a debauched but well-catered high-school party in a mansion; Brandon and a rich, spoiled brunette nearly have sex in a Jacuzzi before his Midwestern values win out; Brenda nearly gets down with an attractive yet smarmy lawyer. The parents stand by, befuddled. “You didn’t wear this much makeup in Minnesota,” Ma Walsh says.
“A ZIP code for stereotypes and stock characters,” wrote Los Angeles Times TV critic Howard Rosenberg. It was hard to believe that this was a show that in the next year would address AIDS, date rape, condoms, cancer, teen pregnancy, the disabled and even the Holocaust and gain a massive, jihadlike following in the process. “Would you burn that for me?” actress Jennie Garth says when the pilot is mentioned. Garth plays the rich, spoiled, blond Kelly Taylor, who makes her entrance bragging about her recent nose job and warns Brenda that “someone around here’s always throwing a pool party, so you never get a chance to pig out.” “I hated my character,” says Garth. “She was just so one-dimensional. The show has since evolved so much.”
After the pilot, Charles Rosin, who actually graduated from Beverly Hills High in the class of ’70, came over from CBS’s Northern Exposure to become 90210‘s executive producer. He thought he could help make the show “a little more sympathetic to the human condition.” The scripts immediately began to broaden their focus: The Walshes’ fish-out-o’-water story offered only limited possibilities (especially since shows from The Beverly Hillbillies to The Fresh Prince of Bel Air had used every swimming-pool joke at least three times), and there were plenty of story-ready issues that no teen show was dealing with. “We never used the word issues,” says Aaron Spelling, “but we thought that instead of just showing the fun, fun, fun of being a teenager that the other teen shows were doing, we would show exactly what their problems are.”
Thus 90210‘s plots vary dramatically, from Brenda’s stalking a date rapist or finding a lump in her breast or an equally dire crisis of the week (a tendency that led Mad magazine to title its parody Beverly Hills 911) to the wacky high jinks that ensue when Brenda takes her driving test. Yet the show’s writing consistently transcends the melodrama with an unpatronizing tone, thanks to a small, cohesive group of writers: Many of the scripts are written by Rosin, his wife, Karen, and Star.
It was Karen Rosin who wrote “Isn’t It Romantic?,” the first episode broadcast in 1991. “It was an important episode,” says Charles Rosin, “because it crystallized the way we dealt with sexual issues.” It was also the first episode that prominently featured future star Luke Perry.
“After the pilot, we felt there should be someone who is a little dangerous, a little on the edge, and we came up with the Dylan character,” says Aaron Spelling. “When Luke walked into the audition,” says Star, “it was like ‘Wow, that’s the person.’ He seems exactly like James Dean to me, but it isn’t a conscious imitation — he’s really being himself.”

Brenda Dylan
The 90210 audition was a hard-earned break for Perry, who grew up in Fredericktown, Ohio, a small town that he has alternately described as a redneck backwater and a rural paradise. “Both are true,” Perry says. “I could not wait to get out of there, but I’ve learned a lot there, a lot of things that apply here. I’ve never learned anything here that applies there.” At the age of twelve, Perry realized he wanted to be an actor, but he waited until after high school to move to L.A. and start taking lessons. He continued his training in New York, where he got his first acting work, on daytime soaps — as Ned Bates in Loving and Kenny on Another World.
Dylan and Brenda’s first kiss — after a shouting match — was Perry’s baptism by fire. “It was very hard for me,” he says. “I was in some fucking frustration. It was my first really big show. I was very nervous. I felt under the gun. Finally, I just … I was wearing a long coat, and I just sat down on the sidewalk and threw that coat over my head until I was ready to go. I was screaming at Shannen like a fucking crazy man off camera before I came on to get the emotion. I was screaming and sobbing, and I’d step onto my mark and try to maintain it.”
After the big kiss, Brenda asks Kelly, “What’s the next step? Do I get pinned or something?” “Yes,” replies Kelly. “Preferably to the mattress.” Later, Kelly schools Brenda on carrying a condom: “Rule 1: Never rely on the guy.” And Brenda schools her dad: “Do you want me to sneak around, or are you going to trust me to know what I’m doing?” In the end, a female heterosexual guest lecturer comes to West Beverly and talks about what it’s like to have AIDS, and Dylan, having had condomless sex before, tells a fearful Brenda that he’ll get tested.
Brenda and Dylan postponed sex until the infamous “Spring Dance” show, last May. “I was a little wary at first,” says Doherty. “But they reassured me that we wouldn’t be condoning it [sex] in the show. We represent situations to our audience, and I don’t think we take a side. It’s something that brings families together. I mean, after a character loses her virginity, how can a parent not turn to their kid and say, ‘What did you think of that?’ ” The flood of angry viewer reaction to the suggestion that Dylan and Brenda did horizontal push-ups in a hotel room caused the show’s creative team to reconsider its course.
“I was really surprised by the outcry,” says Star. “I think what they were most upset about was that she was, you know, happy afterwards. So I had to write the first episode coming back in the summer where she thought she was pregnant, and she had to break up with Dylan, and it was really tough. I thought, ‘How am I going to make this story work, in which a girl has sex with Luke Perry and decides to break up with him because of that?’ But I think it sort of rounded it out more and responded to the network, you know, and advertisers, and I guess that’s part of television.” Since then, the Dylan-Brenda romance has remained on the back burner. Nonetheless, Perry says: “They’re still having sex. Don’t kid yourself. We just ain’t talking about it. Because in high school, once you start, there’s no going back. There is just not.”

Kelly Brandon
Yet it was before the Bang Heard Round the World that Fox realized it had something special on its hands. As one Fox executive puts it, “It wasn’t the ratings, it was the riots.” In that spring of mall maulings, the network’s programmers looked for a way to build on the cult enthusiasm. When summer rolled around, they boldly decided to continue pumping out new episodes, ordering thirty new shows of 90210. This unprecedented order (twenty-two shows per season is standard for an hour drama) paid off: While the competition aired reruns, 90210 moved into the Nielsen Top Twenty.
The new summer episodes continued to explore teen angst — though more carefully, as a result of the “Spring Dance” experience. As Jennie Garth puts it: “I’ve tried to get them to let Kelly get laid or shoplift, but they wouldn’t go for it. It seems like we can never do anything bad. Bad things happen to us.”
“Everybody is really keyed into the fact that ‘God, if we show Brandon taking drugs, and he is everybody’s role model, what is that saying?’ ” says Star.
As a result, good boy Brandon twice has been slipped mood-altering substances. The second time, the evil drug was the fictional “U4EA” (the producers made up a drug, fearful that if any real drug had been mentioned, viewers would have been tempted to try it), which was dissolved into a glass of soda water by Brandon’s scary blond girlfriend, Emily. In a Reefer Madness homage, U4EA causes Brandon to “feel really good, really alive,” ask cosmic questions like “Hey, what are those little bumps on your tongue called?,” unbutton his shirt and lethargically make out on the hood of his car. But just because he took the drug inadvertently doesn’t mean he escapes fearsome retribution: The next day, he has a real bad headache (you know — an acid hangover) and is really embarrassed about the way he acted. And his car, when he finally finds it, has been stripped. The moral: Don’t take drugs. Or soda water from scary blondes.
But the spiking fun began back in January, when Brandon’s virgin daiquiri was violated with rum, leading him into days of tequila and roses and, ultimately, a drunk-driving accident. He ends up in jail, where his hair still looks great. “That was a fun episode,” says Jason Priestley. “It was the first time we saw Brandon just, you know, go off, and I loved the hell out of that.” In a West Hollywood bar, he’s downing his second pint of English beer, which on 90210 would probably make him a crazed alcoholic.
Priestley is acknowledged as the guy who can instantly lighten the mood on a tense set by cracking a joke or dropping his pants. “Hey, I just thank God I get to work with such great guys,” Priestley says. “It would be a drag if any of us were just huge pricks, you know.” You get the idea that he would find a way to enjoy himself anywhere. On a recent appearance on Late Night, host David Letterman made fun of Priestley (surprise, surprise), and Priestley took it smiling. “It was great fun,” he says. “I had to go onstage and just go, ‘Hey, babe, go ahead and kill me now.’ I thought if I turned and ran, it would be okay, everybody would understand.”
A native of Vancouver, British Columbia, Priestley has been acting since he was four. At that tender age, he had to talk his mom, a former actress, into taking him to see her agent. Most of the early jobs were commercials (if you want to bug him, ask him about the ad for pressed meat in which he sang the words “and ham!”), but he got a break in 1989, when he was chosen for the cast of Sister Kate, a sitcom about orphans raised by a nun (Stephanie Beacham), which was canceled faster than you can say, “Bless me, father, for I have sinned.”
Priestley seems unaffected by his sudden stardom, maybe because he doesn’t do personal appearances for 90210 and never has. “I don’t do what I do because I have the need to have thousands of girls screaming at me,” he says, “and neither does Luke.” The show, he claims, has been equally impervious to its success. “I’m glad our creative forces haven’t said, ‘Oh, well, people are watching now, we should back off doing things, make the show a little less controversial.’ “

Scott
Last November, 90210 dealt with the teen issue to end all teen issues — death. In one of the highest-rated episodes to date, a recurring character named Scott (played by Doug Emerson) pulls a handgun out of his dad’s desk and twirls it playfully on one finger. “Check this out,” he says to friend David Silver. A shot rings out. David looks horrified. Cut to angelic voices singing “There’s a Place for Us” at a school assembly.
Now, wherever Doug Emerson goes, he gets condolences. “It’s always ‘You’re dead, you’re dead, why’d you die? What happened?’ ” says the boyish blond actor. His death has definitely left Emerson with mixed emotions. “The hardest thing is to believe for myself that it was nothing I did to get killed,” he says. When 90210 started catching on back in March, Emerson felt certain enough about the show’s future — and his — to buy a cool new car, a Saab. That was before the production office called him in for a meeting on “future character development.” The news came as a shock, which is understandable: Imagine being Pete Best. And being dropped from the Beatles after Sgt. Pepper.
Through the summer, Emerson, like any terminal case, kept hoping for a reprieve, but the ratings reaper waits for no actor, especially once it’s established that his character likes to play with guns. “I hope that episode will save some lives,” says Priestley, “because, you know, guns don’t kill people.” Right. Producers do.
“We planned this episode back in March, when we knew we would be picked up,” says Rosin. “I wanted it to be not a suicide, not an illness, but an accident. It seemed a handgun accident was one that made the most sense.”
According to Spelling, Fox was responsible for the lurid publicity campaign — “Tonight, they will lose one of their own,” read the copy above a photo of the regular cast members, with Emerson stuck in among them.
Yet despite the success of life-and-death themes, there are certain issues you won’t see on 90210. For example, you will not see an episode soon about the sorry state of public schools in California. “It’s an entertainment media,” Rosin says. “The prime goal that we have is to entertain an audience. We’re not going to do an episode about the teachers’ strikes at Beverly Hills High.
“We hope that we can have some impact (a) to entertain, and (b) when it’s over, to get them to think about what they have seen, for maybe about five seconds. That was always our goal, just five seconds. And the fact is, it seems that our impact is a little longer than that.”
“It seems the main response I’ve been getting is how realistic the show is,” says Brian Austin Green, who plays David Silver. “People think the story lines are so realistic,” says Tori Spelling. A high school with a hallway DJ booth, kids driving BMWs and wearing designer fashions, high schoolers looking like Jason Priestley and Shannen Doherty — this is realism? But then, reality on TV is a relative concept. As Aaron Spelling puts it, “A broken date or not to have a date — that’s the tragedy.”

parents
“Everything is life and death to these kids,” Perry says. And the parents just don’t understand — not because they’re too uptight but because they’re too loaded. Unless you’re from the Midwest, it seems, your family is destined to burst like a poodle in a microwave. Almost every family function stars a dysfunctional family: moms that are coked or spaced out (Kelly’s and Dylan’s), or very scary and castrating (Scott’s), or self-obsessed and unable to love (Steve’s); dads that are absent or running from the law (Dylan’s, Kelly’s, Steve’s).
By making teens the centers of good in their dramas — as opposed to blank moral slates waiting to be filled with Mom and Dad’s latest lesson — 90210 receives an intense loyalty from its fans. Of course, it doesn’t hurt that the stars are cute, wear nice clothes, drive cool cars and live in Beverly Hills.
“It’s between the image and the inner life — that’s the gap where all the drama and comedy come,” says Rosin. “Beverly Hills is such an image-conscious town. Hopefully, we don’t promote the stereotype; we try to bust it.”

Brenda
They’ve succeeded as far as hair color goes. “This receptionist told me, ‘What you have done for brunettes is amazing,’ ” says Shannen Doherty. ” ‘It’s always the blondes that get the guy, who have the wonderful life, who are perceived as the most beautiful one. And you have totally turned it around.’ “
Doherty, in all her stigma-stymieing, dark-haired splendor, sits in the tearoom of the Beverly Wilshire Hotel sipping a Coke. She looks notably un-Brenda-like in a clingy black bodysuit and tight jeans. “I dress more for my figure than Brenda does,” she says. “She’d probably put a dress over this bodysuit to hide herself. Brenda’s more apple pie, girl next door, America’s sweetheart.” (And a far cry from Doherty’s most memorable previous role, as one of the title-character high-school bitch goddesses in the movie Heathers.)
Beyond showing a brunette with a life, Doherty, 20, is very conscientious about the responsibilities entailed in being America’s sweetheart. “In one episode,” she says, “they had my character wanting to lose weight, like eight pounds or something. I’m fairly thin, and with bulimia and anorexia such big problems, I was concerned that these girls who look up to me might take it the wrong way. I conveyed that to Chuck Rosin, and it was gone.”
She sips again from her drink, and a large, pear-shaped diamond glints from her left hand. The ring was given to her recently by her fiancé, a businessman named Chris Foufas (she’s keeping her name), and inquiring minds quickly found out. “My fiancé opens up the Enquirer, and he goes, ‘What? I bought you a six-and-a-half-carat ring, and they said it was three carats!’ And I get on the phone to Mike [her manager, Mike Gursey] and say, ‘Have them print a retraction. That fucking ring is not three carats.’ I’m like going nuts on the phone, and Mike starts to laugh hysterically.”
Besides the issue of ring size, Doherty would like to dispel the notion “that I’m a huge bitch.” She’s been called that and “spoiled brat” but mostly just “difficult.” (A 90210 press release diplomatically labels her “hardworking and determined.”)
“If you consider ‘difficult’ being a strong woman who sticks up for herself, yeah, I admit to it,” she says. “I’m open to different ideas, but if you get on my bad side and don’t listen to me and you don’t treat me with as much respect as you treat a man, you’ve got a problem.”
Doherty grew up in Southern California. Like Priestley, she says she had to persuade her parents to take her to her first audition. Her first TV appearance was in a two-part episode of Father Murphy, which was followed by a starring role in the series Little House: A New Beginning when she was eleven. She credits Little House‘s Michael Landon with giving her a fighting spirit. “He told me, ‘Go with your instinct, and never let anybody walk over you, and always stick up for what you believe in.’ “
“Shannen is a pro,” says Rosin. “She’s been doing this since she was ten years old. We all go through phases where we are angry about things in our own personal life.” The difference is Doherty and her costars go through these phases on a set.

guys
For much of the last year, home has been a run-down studio — a cross between a crumbling college dorm and a decrepit airplane hangar — in the unglamorous San Fernando Valley, the place the cool characters on 90210 would rather die than call home. One of the crew members wears a button that sums up the show’s workaday attitude: It’s just television. When cast members exit through the back to the makeup trailer, they pass a dingy alley where used washing machines are sold.
“I feel like they don’t pay me to do the work,” says Priestley, “because the work is the fun part. They pay me to sit around.” During the long waits between shots, the actors smoke, goof off and play music really loud in their small, boxlike dressing rooms. There’s plenty of time to get really close or really irritated. “I’m not going to lie and say that everybody is buddy-buddy,” says Doherty. “You argue about things, and yeah, we make up in the end. It’s kind of like a brother-sister deal.”
Within this “family” is a pocket of male bonding. “The three boys — Jason, Luke and Ian [Ziering] — are really close,” says Doherty.
“The girls, they’ve all got boyfriends and some other life going on,” says Perry, “and we kind of have each other, you know. We’re all going through it together.”
“We get together and have reality checks,” says Ian Ziering, who plays movie-star adoptee Steve Sanders. “We talk about what’s happening to us and how we can’t believe it.” And the stars that hang together shoot together: Despite losing “one of their own” to a rogue pistol, all the young male stars in the cast are absorbed with guns. Perry, Ziering and Priestley recently shot in the Charlton Heston Skeet Shoot to benefit the U.S. Olympic shooting teams. “Moses was there, and that’s heavy, man,” says Perry. “Moses with a gauge. I was teamed with Chuck Norris and Robert Stack.” Unfortunately, because of scheduling problems, Ziering had to decline an invitation to the General Norman Schwarzkopf Shoot down in Florida.
When not shooting guns or the show, the actors have little free time — they’re busy chatting with Arsenio, hosting Saturday Night Live or walking the high wire on Circus of the Stars. “The pressures on these kids are overbearing,” says James Eckhouse, who plays Mr. Walsh. “When you’re on a hit series,” says Ziering, “everybody wants a piece of you.”

mag
Despite the myriad 90210 T-shirts, posters and beach towels, the merchandising has only begun. Soon, Mattel will release a line of Barbie-size dolls modeled on the show’s stars, when most of them already find it hard to walk to the corner store without being tugged and pulled like a living Gumby. “We get accosted in malls,” says Doherty. “Basically, it takes over your life.”
“People come up to me all the time on the street and say, ‘Brandon’s stupid for not wanting you,’ ” says Gabrielle Carteris, who plays brainy Andrea Zuckerman and who, at thirty, is the oldest teen cast member who gives her age. “Then the other night I was at the airport, and Brooke Shields came up to me and said, ‘I love your show. It makes me cry. And he’s a jerk for not getting together with you.'”
“The fans of this show are not just fans,” Priestley says. “It’s heavy, man. They really relate to us all.” That’s an understatement. Brian Austin Green, 18, recalls public appearances where hundreds of teens shouted out the answers to trivia questions about his life. “They know my brother’s name, my sister’s name, their ages, my dog’s name, what color car I have, how big the bumpers are, how big the tires are.”
At one appearance last May, Green had to be removed from a mall in an armored car. Didn’t they have a laundry hamper handy? “See, Luke pulled that off, but they wrote about it in all the magazines, so there was no way we could try it again,” he says.
Since last summer, you’d be hard pressed to find a teen magazine without extensive coverage of Green and the rest of the cast. On the cover, invariably, are smiling or brooding photos of Perry and Priestley and a cover line like Jason reveals secret love-life confessions! (The two are often credited with saving the teen-fanzine industry from post-New Kids on the Block depression.) Every aspect of Priestley’s and Perry’s lives has been picked over, while Perry’s attraction to women well past adolescence — like Linda Hamilton, Jane Pauley and Stephanie Beacham — has been conveniently played down. Beacham, who played Dylan’s spacey mom in one 90210 episode, especially spins the L-man’s beanie: “Man, I had to fight that Oedipal thing all week,” he says.
The media have pursued the unavailable facts like the Grail: How old are Perry and Priestley? (Both reply “midtwenties,” though Perry is probably in the upper reaches of that grouping.) Who had the cool sideburns first? (“This whole sideburn thing, it’s turned into such an issue, and it’s so stupid,” says Priestley. “But I had them first.”) How about that rivalry between Perry and Priestley? (“I want to dispel that,” says Perry. “I hang out with that fucker four or five days a week. I mean, what do I have to do, get up there and kiss him on the mouth so people will know we’re good friends?”) Who are Perry and Priestley sleeping with? (“Well, you can definitely say that Luke sleeps with a pig,” says Doherty. The porker in question is a pet Chinese potbellied pig named Jerry Lee, whom Perry has managed to shield from the media glare. “Jerry Lee’s the Yoda force in my life,” Perry says. “Luke’s house really has a good pig odor to it, which I appreciate,” adds Priestley.)
“Sometimes I wonder, ‘Do I even have to be here anymore?’ ” says Darren Star. “I mean, yesterday I was directing a scene with Jason, and he didn’t want to say a certain word or something. I said, ‘Jason, I wonder if it matters what you say anymore.’ “
“We all work extra hard,” says Perry, “because we know people are out there saying we’re just fucking pansies that look good.” He stubs out his cigarette. “I know that a lot of people are casting a very cynical eye my way, in terms of what happens in the future. I’m not worried about being a big star. But it makes me nervous when people talk about it like it’s already happened.” The nervousness is understandable: The cast of 90210 is quite aware that every generation creates its own Frankie Avalons, that every Chinese restaurant in Hollywood has head shots you can’t recognize.
“I’m putting a lot of emphasis on my personal life right now,” says Doherty, “because when it all goes downhill and you lose all your popularity, there’s got to be somebody else there.”
“We need to be grounded,” says Carteris. “We need not to get lost in this make-believe world. I mean, as popular as the show is now, if tomorrow it dies, we still have to live with our lives.”
As Doug Emerson has discovered. “It’s a hard thing to explain to people that I’m not mad at anyone for being killed,” he says. “The business fluctuates so much, you’re in one moment and out the next.” Whether you’re a victim of a mob hit or a TV hit, that’s just the way the fortune cookie crumbles. https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/scenes-from-the-cast-struggle-in-beverly-hills-90210-196815/

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2024.03.27 18:24 pessimistic_witch Social Media

I’ve noticed this over the past few years but anyone who “looks” like they have an ed or is underweight or malnourished will get attacked by people for being pro ana or showing off even when it isn’t a video about eating disorders. I completely understand if someone is intentionally body checking or promoting it but it seems like we aren’t even allowed to show our faces on social media without being attacked for body checking or promoting Ed’s and it’s starting to get frustrating because we are just trying to exist. I notice this with creators who don’t even have an ed that I know of too. I don’t know if anyone else has been bothered by it or noticed it but I just needed to get it off my mind.
Note: you don’t need to be underweight or appear underweight to have anorexia, you are just as valid at any size, anorexia does not have a certain look to it.
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2024.03.27 18:24 pessimistic_witch Social Media

I’ve noticed this over the past few years but anyone who “looks” like they have an ed or is underweight or malnourished will get attacked by people for being pro ana or showing off even when it isn’t a video about eating disorders. I completely understand if someone is intentionally body checking or promoting it but it seems like we aren’t even allowed to show our faces on social media without being attacked for body checking or promoting Ed’s and it’s starting to get frustrating because we are just trying to exist. I notice this with creators who don’t even have an ed that I know of too. I don’t know if anyone else has been bothered by it or noticed it but I just needed to get it off my mind.
Note: you don’t need to be underweight or appear underweight to have anorexia, you are just as valid at any size, anorexia does not have a certain look to it.
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2024.03.26 23:51 pondgrass New Episode Alert - The Body Series with Emmeline Clein, author of Dead Weight - Patreon only

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2024.03.26 13:45 lucy-kathe META: Eating disorders in the subreddit, post and comment guidelines in relation, and some helpful resources

We've all noticed a recent uptick in posts and comments made by users who are currently, have in the past, or may soon be on their way to, battling an eating disorder, we want users experiences in our sub to be as healthy and supportive as possible but it can be hard for mods and users to manage these kinds of disorders without causing more damage, this is a guide on our general expectations in regard to content to and from people with EDs, or for people with EDs who wish to use the subreddit. Two quick notes beforehand:
  1. "why not ban everyone who has an eating disorder?"
This is a question we get often, and the answer is fairly simple, 1) It's not really up to us to decide who should and shouldn't have access to our sub (with some exceptions ofc) 2) this is a sub with over 2k submissions a day, we cannot and will not fuck around trying to weed out everyone who has an active eating disorder and then do the mental gymnastics of trying to decide who should stay and who should go, and they'd still be able to see the sub no matter what, this is a waste of time, a pointless exercise, and ultimately doesn't really do anything to help.
2) what is an eating disorder? is this post targeting a specific disorder?
An eating disorder is a behavioural disorder which involves consistent and severe disturbed thoughts and/or behaviour in regard to food, body image, diet, etc, many disorders fall under the ED umbrella including but not limited to: binge-eating disorder (BED); anorexia; bulimia; ARFID; orthorexia; OSFED/EDNOS. it's also important to note that while it's a common feature of EDs, not all EDs have a focus on weight or body image etc, ARFID and PICA are good examples of these. This post is mainly pertaining to all and any eating disorders that my have weight related thoughts or behaviours as a trait, but isn't necessarily limited to that.
With that out of the way, let's look into our expectations and the guidelines we follow when vetting posts and comments that feature EDs.
If you have a current ongoing eating disorder that is effecting your weight, or your mental health surrounding it, it isn't recommended by us to participate in our subreddit, simple as. if you're in treatment for an eating disorder, unless your doctors have cleared you to be allowed to lose weight or consume weight loss content (we see this mainly for our users with BED), this is probably not a healthy place for you right now, the main concerns here being how easy it can be for our users to unwittingly encourage behaviour that is unhealthy for a user with an ED, furthering the illness or adding fuel to the fire, potentially causing more mental or physical damage, this is why 90% of the time we don't allow posts from people who are actively in treatment, or have an active eating disorder, even if the post is valid and fine, it may be removed if the risk of harm is too great, if it isn't removed it is generally heavily followed by our mods to ensure the rules are being followed in the comments, here are some examples of posts that would *generally* be allowed in our sub from users who have (or had) EDs:

Posts that are absolutely not allowed and will be met with a ban:
Eating disorders are hard, and a lot of the posts we encounter are from people who are still in denial or unaware of their eating disorders, we do not allow posts from people who are underweight and looking to lose more weight, we do not allow posts from users who have an underweight goal weight, users who refuse to stick to the medically recommended minimums, or users who consistently post potentially disordered content, these kinds of posts will be removed and the user COULD be met with a ban (especially if warnings have been given)

Guide for commenting and interacting with posts.
So, you want to give advice or support on a post that features eating disorders, here are some things to remember:

as far as I can think, this covers all or most of the pertinent information to those who have/had EDs, and those who wish to support or advise, remember to report posts, comments, etc that may be rule breaking or require extra eyes, and if you're unsure or nervous about posting you can also modmail us with your concerns, we can tell you if your post is allowed, keep eyes on it, or try to direct you to a more appropriate subreddit.
Lastly, as a reminder, eating disorders do not discriminate, it doesnt matter what sex, gender, age, nationality you are, please dont brush the topic off because you think it'll never effect you, i hope everyone is well, and i wish anyone currently dealing with an ED a speedy and comfortable recovery. please feel free to discuss, ask questions, or make additions with your own helpful links in the comments (within the rules of the sub) x

Links to potentially helpful subreddits:
diet
Health
fuckeatingdisorders
AnorexiaNervosa
AnorexiaRecovery
bulimia
BulimiaRecovery
BingeEatingDisorder
intuitiveeating
BodyAcceptance
EatingDisorders
ARFID
BodyDysmorphia
Eatingdisordersover30
safe_food
mentalhealth

helplines, official websites and other helpful links:
National institute for mental health: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/eating-disorders
Mayo clinic, eating disorder treatment: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/eating-disorders/in-depth/eating-disorder-treatment/art-20046234
NHS, how to help someone with an eating disorder: https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/advice-for-life-situations-and-events/how-to-help-someone-with-eating-disorde
Eating disorder hope: https://www.eatingdisorderhope.com/
Beat, help and treatment (UK) https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/get-information-and-support/get-help-for-myself/i-need-support-now/help-treatment/
National eating disorders association (NEDA): https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/get-help/


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2024.03.19 17:02 internetcatalliance Anorexia is genuinely my norm

This will so get deleted ....
My anorexia... It's been years and shit, I'm like 23...
It's normal, it feels natural, and although I talk about it a lot, in reality I genuinely barely think about anything ED related in a day, it's all so mundane that my mind barely registers it Al
Its comfortable, I benefit to some degree from the routine, the rules, all that shit, it brings me some degree of comfort, which I likewise barely perceive
I guess at this point, this is kinda just how I live?
Yes I'm making the lifestyle comparison, and no not any of that pro ana cringe, no I don't mean it like that... it's just, it feels so much like just a way of being, it's crazy how something so serious and deadly can become normal to someone
Honestly if I'm gonna be honest, I even get some amount of joy from behaviours, hitting goals, I am actually not fat for the first time in 12 years, how can I not be happy? How the fuck am I ever supposed to get better when...
It all feels so normal? Like nothings wrong...
I'm disabled, my muscles are non existent.. I need to at times ask strangers in the street to help me carry bags onto the tram
Yet I feel normal, like nothings wrong, like I'm meant to be this way
What the hell...
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2024.03.18 21:01 ellsmirip25 Elevated cPL with elevated lipase without clinic signs can indicate subclinical pancreatitis. Is it possible my dog is eating too many fatty acids in his diet?

My dogs name is Hercules and his lab results contain my personal information. I do not know how to remove my personal information from the PDF so instead I included my veterinarian's summary of the lab results below.
Species: Dog
Age: 6
Sex/Neuter status: Male/Neutered
Breed: Black Labrador Retriever
Body weight: 85 lbs.
History: Dry/itchy skin and weight management
Clinical signs: no clinical signs
Duration: lab results just received this week
Your general location: South-east Idaho, United States
Summary of lab results: The chemistry reveals- Good organ values (liver, kidneys (Creatinine and BUN), thyroid, etc)- Mild increase in SDMA (15) this can be due to dehydration, vs kidney disease vs secondary kidney injury associated with non-renal diseases.- Elevated Spec cPL (352) and lipase (398)- this can be due to Subclinical pancreatitis (if clinical signs are absent), Pancreatitis (acute or chronic), Pancreatic inflammation secondary to other primary disease, Pancreatic neoplasia (rare)The cbc reveals: Mild decrease in Reticulocyte Hemoglobin this can be due to inflammation.
The urinalysis is normal. Well concentrated urine.
The heartworm test is negative .
The parasite exam is pending.
The Tick Borne Disease is negative
As this value is in the grey zone (less than 400) we can also stop all table scrapes and recheck a Spec cPL in 1-2 months to see if the value decreases before trying a diet change. If clinical signs or vomiting, anorexia, or lethargy are observed we change his diet.
Low-fat Diet Options: provided by vet:
Prescription Diet for cats and dogs --- Hill's i/d low fat, Royal Canin GI low fat, or Purina EN low fat
Over the counter: Royal Canin weight management, Purina ProPlan weight management, or Hill's Science diet perfect management or Natural Balance Fat Dog.
Currently, my dog Hercules diet includes Farmer's Dog (Pork, Beef, Turkey blend) + Hill's Science Diet for Sensitive Skin. This combination successfully treated issues he was having with flaky and itchy skin. However, with the lab results, I changed his diet to include only the turkey blend, and purchased Purina Proplan Weight Management (low fat).
Plan:
- Repeat Spec cPL in 1-2 months to monitor. Sooner if clinical signs develop.
- Recheck Renal panel in 3-4 months to monitor kidney values
- Schedule a professional dental procedure.
- Stay on injectable (every 12 months) or monthly oral parasite preventive.
- Continue current medications and supplements.

Thanks all,
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2024.03.17 20:23 SmogVoyager My Story

Sorry for the wall of text I just wanted to get this all off my chest and I'm to ashamed to tell the full and true story to anyone I actually know. Using a throwaway for obvious reasons.
My internet addiction started when I was 14/15 before then I definitely still played a lot of video games, but I also was pretty well rounded with other non screen hobbies like art, reading manga, riding my skateboard etc. And I pretty much just avoided social media because it was boring. Then during my freshman year of highschool I realized I was trans and wanted to be a girl. This was before it was mainstream and all I knew about being trans was crossdressing and genderbend characters in Anime, lol. But after researching it online I realized transition was a thing but was to shy to tell my parents. So instead I stumbled across a trans support community on reddit and this became my first foray into social media. And I started to spend a lot of time there due to it being the only place I could fully be myself. This is when I started to let social media suck me in instead of doing anything about my problems.
Fortunately after a year and a few months I couldn't take it anymore got over my awkwardness and told my parents, and they were cool and helped me get my meds and name change and such. And that was going really well and I spent a lot less time online. But then it was time to come out at school. I was already bullied for being effeminate and nerdy but coming out as trans in 2016 cranked it up and it hurt a lot more than when people told me I looked like a girl as an attempt to insult me. And i sort f retreated back to the internet except now the trans support stuff lost interest to me because I had transitioned and i had a therapist and friends and family I could talk to it about IRL. So instead I scrolled aimlessly until I stumbled across proAna content.
And yeah that didn't go so well either and it gave me this hair brained idea that I would be more feminine than all the girls in my school if i weighed less than them. So I constantly visited proAna sites while starving myself for about a year and eventually I "succeded" and despite being 5'7" managed to weigh less than the short skinny Asian girl. And then went to the hospital because apparently I looked dead.
Fortunately I managed to recover and finish highschool on time despite this. But I hurt my family in the process and my mental health was still wrecked, and my first semester of community college blew up in my face despite being straight As in HS(I just didn't do any work). At first I just decided to really focus on my art for a while but this got swallowed up as my tech-addiction found it's way to 4chan to get even worse lol. And I kept stewing on their until I found out about the Andrew Yang political election and got really interested in that because of NEETbux for all lol. I even volunteered a bit for the campaign and stuff which was cool and such but after he lost miserably I got sucked into the discord server for what remained and some other servers with people from there that descended to pure 4chan energy lol. And also the pandemic started which only helped reinforce this mindset of staying a NEET. And i also started to have issues doomscrolling doomer subreddits at the time.
But I started to realize enough was enough cut off all the toxic discords and started taking my core college classes online during the rest of the lockdowns. And a bit later found out about no surf and have started making efforts to cut down on reddit, and youtube as well. And now I think it's been like 2.5 years of middling success and then failure with no surf I haven't become as ruined as I was before but it's still an issue I am struggling with. I'm starting to realize I should probably just cut off reddit entirely though i am not really willing to do the same for youtube, because I've genuinely found things that add value to my life there.

It's kind of upsetting to look back on tbh. I can't even just do an "internet bad" copout because it was helping me as a tool right up until I let it take over. But in some way i feel irrevocably damaged, almost a decade of over stimulating my brain with the internet while it is supposed to be developing might of warped my mind. There's the fact that i let my creative interests get eclipsed by boring real world stuff that the algorithm poisoned me with. And of course the whole anorexia and bullying thing def made it 10x worse. Sometimes i feel like I'll never be fully free of the yoke of tech addiction . Well thanks for reading this far if your still here.
Also before any sketchy types try to say I got brainwashed into being trans by the internet because of this. Almost 8 years since I transitioned and it's literally the only thing in this story I don't regret besides going back to college.


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2024.03.16 11:02 hungrytweet MeiMonte whistleblower (her friend) comes forward with further allegations and proof

MeiMonte whistleblower (her friend) comes forward with further allegations and proof
Hi all, it's been a bit since the initial controversy. For those out of the loop, Mei Monte was a fitness and makeup influencer. She was revealed to have cheated, stole money from her bf, and racism. She deleted all her Instagram accounts in response though her TikTok and YouTube still remain up. This happened a few weeks ago. Mei Monte was also a cosplayer "Meiflurryy" in the past with a similarly large following.
Now, another person who had been friends with Mei Monte in real life for years anonymously dropped some information along with proof, under the alias "K". According to K, Mei Monte had always been EXTREMELY problematic.
A summary of things Mei Monte had done in the past (not exhaustive):
  1. Had stolen people from her friend(s) before
  2. Had sex during school in the same room as 5 other people
  3. Broke up with someone because she developed a crush on RM from BTS
  4. Wanted her friends to sign up for K-Pop instead of going to college
  5. Is pro-anorexia(i had to look this up) and took dangerous drugs to lose weight
  6. Influenced her friend(s) to develop eating disorders, got her friend(s) to starve for multiple days
  7. Stalked her teacher in his 40's who she had a crush on (she was 16 at the time)
  8. Had always been racist and was against her friends tanning
  9. Fabricated stories of her friend(s) threatening to commit suicide if she “left them” for TikTok content
  10. Claimed her glow up is due to confidence and makeup. However, it’s surgery (pics provided)
Mei Monte before and after plastic surgery

Now below is a screenshot dump of K's messages:

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2024.03.15 07:08 Bulldogs_R_Awesome I hate people who idolize this

i know that im not supposed to say i hate people who may be in the same boat as me but i fucking hate anyone who is pro ana. i seriously fucking hate them.
sometimes ill get a pro ana video on my fyp on tiktok and it makes me sick to my stomach. first of all, their content is always extremely triggering to those with an ed already. it makes me hate myself and digs me deeper into my own hole.
those numbers that mean so little to others rule my life. if i see someone who weighs less than me i feel obligated to now go and restrict.
then they’re in the description like “dont try this at home lol :)” like shut the fuck up, dont post this fuck ass shit in the first place.
then, the ignorant ass fucks in the comments. anyone who says they wish they had an ed or they wish they had the strength to restrict or purge needs a slap in the fucking face.
i hate them too. to wish that on yourself. to idolize and glamorize it. the complete destruction of your body. to hit rock bottom and then dig yourself deeper constantly. it is sickening to want that.
i hate that they make me worse and want to drag others in. i hate that people look at eating disorders like anorexia as something to aspire to. i hate everyone so much.
anorexia is a prison that you build around yourself. you will never feel good enough. you will be in pain constantly and nothing but your worst nightmare will help. you will feel so alone and want people to notice but at the same time do everything you can to hide it.
anorexia is never as simple as just not eating. it is unimaginable mental anguish and self hatred constantly.
these people disgust me. anyone who feels that way towards any mental illness disgusts me. but anorexia seems to be idolized more than others.
there is nothing beautiful about this. it is the ugliest thing you will ever have be apart of your life.
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2024.03.13 21:10 sarahbellum0 Hypoglycemia NYD

This is a long one but hopefully someone will be interested in helping me figure it out :)
I have attached a differential diagnosis table if you want to help me with some of the blanks (https://imgur.com/a/FrzJJsd)
35yo female. 5'10. 220lbs. Caucasian. Canadian.
No alcohol or recreational drug use
Current Medications
-Lamotrigine: 250mg BID
-Clonazepam 0.5mg TID
-Effexor 225mg OD
-Seroquel 50mg OD
-Docusate sodium 200mg OD
-Vitamin D 3000i iu
-Concerta 27mg
Past Medical history
  1. Anorexia Nervosa (AN) – severe from age 12-18 (multiple hospitalizations + tube feeding. Lowest weight 68lbs at 5’6). In remission from 18-30. Relapse in 2018 leading to 50lb weight loss in 4 months necessitating out of country residential treatment. Been in full recovery x2 years.
  2. GERD (2018-present)
  3. Juvenile Myoclonic Epilepsy (diagnosed at 18 by epileptologist with EEG. Well controlled on lamotrigine [150mg BID] & clonazepam [0.5mg BID])
  4. C-PTSD, depression & anxiety
  5. Inappropriate sinus tachycardia (~2010-2016): HR 100-120bpm at rest, 150-160bpm walking/stairs, >200bpm with exercise. Resolved with bisopolol pt. to begin exercising. Taken off in 2016 for bradycardia.
  6. Electrolyte derangements
-Hyponatremia (2009): Na+ of 116mmol/L t hot weather, diahrea, & decreased oral intake. Leading to prolonged seizure and 5-day hospitalization
-Hypocalcemia (February 2024): unknown etiology
  1. Hypoglycemia
Hypoglycemia was first noted on routine bloodwork in 2018 during residential treatment for AN. This was thought to be t refeeding. Episodes seemed to improve. In
2019 sought out endocrinology referral due to 100lb weight gain in < 1 year. Trialed metformin for a few months with no noticeable difference. Does not meet criteria for metabolic syndrome or PCOS.
2020 episode of decreased oral intake during the day. Pt had ice cream late at night. Approximately 1hr later felt like she was going to vomit and went to the bathroom. Lost consciousness for an unknown amount of time. Woke up on the bathroom floor with clothing wet from diaphoresis. Did not recognize this as reactive hypoglycemia (RH) at the time.
In May 2021 pt started on Ozempic 0.5mg. Two weeks after starting had an episode of profound reactive hypoglycemia resulting in loss of consciousness. ER stabilized and made a referral to Internal Medicine. Dexcom was ordered for pt. Noted that pt had hypoglycemia unawareness in the 3s. Pt does not experience neurogenic symptoms (tremulousness, palpitations, anxiety, sweating, hunger, paresthesias) in the range of 3.0-3.9mmol/L and is only symptomatic at <2.9mmol/L with neuroglycopenia. All Dexcom readings were confirmed with a glucometer.
June 2021 multiple episodes of profound hypoglycemia (<2-2.9) resulting in temporary vision loss, seizures, cardiac arrhythmia, etc. Admitted to the hospital multiple times. Stabilized on glucose infusion and d/c home.
In July 2021 attempted 72h fast in the hospital however Endocrinology was not involved and the fast was ended prematurely. Outpatient mixed meal study results will be linked. Connected with endocrinology dietician. Started taking cornstarch before bed which was helpful.
August-September 2021 multiple hospitalizations for hypoglycemia resulting in LOC. At this time Acarbose TID was initiated. This seemed to help slightly with postprandial symptoms however pt still has fasting hypoglycemia overnight. Also, acarbose made treating hypoglycemia challenging (inhibits glycoside hydrolases which are needed to digest carbohydrates) therefore only honey, milk, dextrose (i.e. d50 orally) and glucagon could be used to reverse hypoglycemia. Symptoms seemed to be precipitated by food and exercise. Pt cut all simple carbs out of her diet however was still having a lot of difficulty managing sugars (approximately 6 episodes of hypoglycemia a day in the 3s). Was no longer able to live independently.
October 2021: Admitted for a 72hr fast following another hypoglycemic even requiring glucagon and Dextrose infusion. 72h fast results will be linked. Fast was modified due to the patient's hx of epilepsy and endocrinology wanted to draw the critical bloodwork (plasma glucose, BHOB, c-peptide, insulin, pro-insulin, sulfonylurea screen) at 3.0mmol/L and then reverse the hypoglycemia with d50. Pt was hypoglycemic within <24h and at 2.9mmol/L at ~36h. Critical labs were drawn and fast was discontinued.
Preliminary results indicated insulinoma so the patient was started on Diazoxide (all results were back except serum insulin). The pt was admitted for a total of 3 weeks. When the insulin level came back it was not quite high enough to meet insulinoma threshold so the patient was diagnosed with “liver glycogen depletion” and discharged home with oral d50 solution.
Pt became quite hopeless. She developed a significant mistrust and fear of doctors/hospitals. She was lost to follow up when she moved cities.
Summer 2022: Pt had an episode of hypoglycemia that resulted in a seizure. Brought to local emerg. ER physician gave a 1L bolus of D5 prior to her discharge. Nurses heard patients' Dexcom alarm ~30min after infusion completed. Patient was asleep and difficult to rouse. Dexcom showed glucose <2.0. Confirmed with POC glucometer however they unfortunately did not draw the critical labs needed.
September 2022: Pt had an episode of hypoglycemia (2.5mmol/L) where she felt her heart “quivering in her chest” shortly after she lost consciousness. Revived with glucagon. Refused to go to ER. Had 2 more episodes within a 3-week-period. Admitted to large urban hospital with NET program. Stayed in hospital x 5 days and then discharged home with endocrinology appointment.
December 2022: Pt underwent her 3rd 72h fast. Unfortunately, at 72h her blood glucose had not dropped below 3.4mmol/L so no critical labs could be drawn. Pt and endocrinologist felt reassured after this testing.
January-March 2023: Pt was admitted to a residential facility for PTSD. She received round-the-clock nursing care and 24/7 glucose monitoring through the Dexcom follow app. Pt learned:
-Glucose is very sensitive to movement (walking, cleaning room) and cannot do 2 activities in a row without a snack. HR cannot go over 150bpm or glucose is depleted very quickly.
-Hot showers cause hypoglycemia.
-Learned more about proper diet to manage her hypoglycemia.
-Must intervene sooner to prevent critical lows
She decided to stop seeking an answer and live with the condition. She continued seeing her endocrinologist every three months.
During treatment, she met with a medical pharmacologist and went over any medications that may be causing hypoglycemia. Effexor was decreased from 300mg to 225mg as this is a rare side effect of the drug but the patient didn’t tolerate a lower dose than 225mg and there was no noticeable difference in her glycemic control. Her symptoms also don’t align with the initiation of this medication so it was decided she remain on it.
March-November 2023: relatively stable. Pt better able to manage blood glucose by eating the same foods every day (high protein paired with carb and fat), avoiding simple carbohydrates, drinking Gatorade throughout the workout and eating 2 protein bars before bed. Pt asked about paying out of pocket for an MRI but this was not recommended by her endocrinologist so she did not move forward with it.
December 2023: Pt had a period of 3 days where she didn’t sleep. Had a 8-minute tonic clonic seizure that resulted in a C4/C5 traumatic disc herniation, spinal cord compression and spinal cord contusion. The mother states glucose was 3.5mmol during the seizure. Pt put in Miami j collar and f/u with neurosurgery in 6 weeks.
January 2023: Cervical spinal cord injury improving (decreased stenosis) so Miami j removed. Working with neurology to manage seizures. Setback in recovery t radiculopathy. Met with an endocrinologist who was concerned about the seizure and is ordering imaging for the first time (abdominal CT) and 2nd mixed meal study. The endocrinologist worries that without proof of hyperinsulinemia, she will be unable to acquire an MRI. The test needed to diagnose an insulinoma (aside from the 72h fast) is an octreotide PET scan and/or endoscopic ultrasound.
March 2023: Pt is feeling better from her SCI and epilepsy is better under control after neurologist increasing clonazepam and lamotrigine. Pt has started physio. She notes that now that she is “moving around” again her blood sugars are labile. All events seem to be related to “exercise” however this could be cleaning the kitchen, working in the garden or a short walk.
Today for example: Normal breakfast, lunch, 20min walk, immediately after blood glucose 3.8 mmol/L. Treat with 15g of carbohydrate. Waited 15min glucose was 3.4mmol/L treated with another 15g of carbohydrates and once above 4.0mmol/L, she has a protein bar.
Pt was a very active person (ran marathons, sailing, tennis, and soccer) and would like to return to this level of physical activity but it is as though her body is only “running” on the food she has eaten that day. If pt doesn’t eat her typical 3 meals and 2 snacks she will also be hypoglycemic around 4 am.
Tests to date:
-72h fast x 3 (however, they first two were not done correctly).
-Mixed meal study
-other bloodwork is put in the ddx table. I will upload any you request.
Pending: -Abdominal CT -Mixed Meal Study -repeat 72h fast if mixed meal study doesn’t provide a biochemical diagnosis -potentially start diazoxide at my next appointment in April
Rare disease genetic testing (through )
The patient is me, it was just easier to write it this way.
If someone could help me figure this out I would be eternally grateful <3
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2024.03.13 18:43 FireTyme how to help this girl better

Hi, i coach a girl who i’ve found out has anorexia, i always knew she had problems gettin enough food in but the full extent wasn’t clear to me until recently (also her parents not telling me clearly for over a year creating a lot of issues by not being honest).
her dream is to be a pro athlete one day. however it’s caused her to not train as much and as hard as she want, and combined with other anxiety like perfectionism and failure anxiety, it’s causing the loop of her mental state to decline inducing the need to vomit and declining food.
she’s doing her best i’m sure, but very closed off to me and in general. I call her out on lies she tells but other then that i don’t judge and fully support her to my abilities. but honestly it is hard so having some tips or guidance to be able to support her better would be appreciated.
As for the training side, its all done in conjunction with a physician, as long as shes gaining or having stable weight she can train but obviously she wants to train more which isnt possible right now.
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2024.03.12 10:53 SaladDioxide I see a lot of patterns here that I saw on pro-anorexia spaces and I'm getting worried. Please take care you cutie patooties :(

I see a lot of patterns here that I saw on pro-anorexia spaces and I'm getting worried. Please take care you cutie patooties :( submitted by SaladDioxide to femboymemes [link] [comments]


2024.03.09 21:58 ultrawhitefan i don't think full recovery is an option for me

(somewhat long read)
what the title says essentially. so i reached my "goal weight" by sticking to an unhealthy calorie limit. which should mean that i should be on my way to slowly increasing my intake up to my bmr, so as to maintain it. however, i realized not long before i reached this weight that i'm at the point in my anorexia that it's not just about my body anymore, but about the strong feeling of control i get from it. i actually like the way i look. basically i already had a hunch that even when i reached my goal weight, i'd still want to keep restricting.
i saw pro-recovery accounts online talking about how even when you reach your ultimate goal weight, you'll want to keep going. i thought "haha no not me it won't happen". well here i am now. i'm far too used to the routine of tracking my weight, meticulously counting every calorie, tracking what i eat every single day. i do want to recover, i think. however, it feels wrong to eat even a few calories above my limit. i want to be able to enjoy food again, but i'd feel guilty even if i started slow.
i'm a minor, so to get help i'd have to tell my mom. i know it would be a step in the right direction but it means i'd have to leave behind all the habits that keep me in a mental "safe zone", even though i know they're unhealthy. i just can't imagine a life where i completely stop tracking everything. my main fear right now is gaining weight, and i'm at a healthy bmi. i have a feeling that i'll always feel a need to track calories to make sure i don't overeat, or to track my weight to make sure i'm maintaining, if i don't count calories. i'm jealous of the people who can eat whenever they feel like it and not feel guilty about it or worry about their weight.
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