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2024.05.13 01:31 Naked_MarkZuckerburg Clinton adviser calls out ineffectiveness of protest voting: "“I believe most of the 101,000 ‘uncommitted’ votes that Mr. Biden lost in Michigan will come home in the end because they have nowhere else to go, and the threat Mr. Trump poses will become clearer and scarier in the next six months,”

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2024.05.12 00:31 Substantial_Item_828 No, It’s Not Joever: How 2024 Polling Is Underestimating Joe Biden

No, It’s Not Joever: How 2024 Polling Is Underestimating Joe Biden
Note: This essay was written about a month ago, for a school project. Some of the numbers and polling averages may be slightly outdated, but the point of the essay still stands.
Introduction
“DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN.”
That’s what the front-page headline of the Chicago Tribune said on November 3rd, 1948. It’s also what the polls had all been saying for months: that New York governor Thomas Dewey would defeat incumbent president Harry Truman and become the next president of the United States. And yet, he didn’t. Truman won reelection in a massive upset, defying the polls. Somehow, Truman had gone from trailing Dewey in polls by so much that cartoons like the following were created, to winning the election.
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Truman was a very unpopular president. His campaign was also plagued by third parties threatening to split his votes: Strom Thurmond on the right and Henry Wallace on the left. The way he was able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat can’t be described as anything less than amazing.
Historians still debate over it, but the most popular theory is that Truman was able to win many voters who disapproved of him because he successfully painted Republicans as being worse than he was. This strategy was aided by Dewey’s weak campaign. Many voters didn’t like Truman, and when polled, wouldn’t say they would vote for him, but when the time came, they held their nose and pulled the lever for the president. The election was a lesson to not treat polls as gospel.
Today, the nation faces another presidential election. The Democratic candidate is incumbent president Joe Biden. He’s running for reelection despite concerns about his age and rumors he wouldn’t run again due to it. On the Republican side, former president Donald Trump is the nominee. He faced opposition in the primaries, most notably by former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley, but beat her and his other opponents without too much trouble. The election is the first presidential rematch since 1956. Several independent/third-party candidates are running too, the most notable being Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr. for short), nephew of JFK. He’s been polling very high for a third-party candidate, getting double digits in many polls.
Biden beat Trump in 2020, but opinion polls have been showing Trump leading Biden, often by large margins. As of April 1st, Trump leads Biden by 1.1% in the national polling average according to racetothewh.com, an election prediction/poll aggregation website. Biden won the popular vote by 4.5% in 2020, so this is a sizable swing right. Trump also leads Biden in all seven swing states. Below is a chart comparing the 2020 presidential election margin and the 2024 polling average in the seven swing states.
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It seems like Biden’s doomed. He needs to win at least some of the swing states to win the election, and right now he isn’t winning any of them. It looks like Trump is on track to becoming the second president ever to win a non-consecutive second term, after Grover Cleveland.
But there’s something else going on.
Biden’s bad polling situation seems simple on the surface. He’s incredibly unpopular, having an approval rating of 39.1% (net -16.3%) according to FiveThirtyEight. His bout of unpopularity seems to have started around the Afghanistan withdrawal, although when asking someone their reason for disliking Biden they’ll probably say something about his age or the economy instead. So, it makes sense that Biden would be polling badly. He’s an unpopular president, and people would rather have Trump.
But it isn’t that simple. Because looking deeper, there are some things that don’t make sense. Crosstabs of polls showing massive realignments not seen since the Civil Rights era. Other indicators of a president in trouble not showing up. Things that when put together, suggest Biden may not be in as much danger as the polls say.
When all the evidence is put together and analyzed, it’s clear that Biden is not doomed, not at all. Biden’s bad polling can be explained by two things. First, bad polling methodology underpolling his supporters. Second, people who are supporting third parties now, but will eventually return to Biden. These two things are both making Biden’s polling look bad, although which one has a stronger effect depends on the poll and the demographic group. Additionally, all the indicators other than the polls, like primary elections and special/off-year elections, don’t show Biden in too much trouble.
Explaining Racial and Age Depolarization
First, context is needed for the rest of this essay to make sense. So, as was said earlier, 2024 polls are showing Biden doing much worse than his 2020 performance. That makes sense – Biden is less popular, so naturally fewer people want to vote for him. The strange part is what demographic groups Biden is slipping with. Instead of a mostly uniform shift, which would be expected, almost all of Biden’s losses seem to come among nonwhite voters – most significantly black and Hispanic voters. He’s also losing ground among young voters (usually defined as voters between the ages of 18 and 29). The Democratic Party traditionally does well with these groups, so this is of course concerning for Biden. Even more strange is that in some polls, Biden is actually making some inroads among the demographics that are historically the base of the Republican Party – those being white voters and seniors. Looking at the aggregation of crosstabs of polls during February, there are many abnormalities.
The aggregation shows Trump making massive gains among black and Hispanic voters (swings of R+28.4 and R+18.5 respectively) but making almost zero gains among white voters (R+0.1, but right under that there are slight blue swings with both college educated and non-college educated whites, likely a product of not all polls recording results for those groups). This is strange, to say the least. White people seem to be perfectly fine with Biden, while nonwhite people suddenly despise him. This phenomenon is called racial depolarization, or racedep for short.
Swings among different age groups are also odd. Trump is improving by 16.1 points among voters aged 18-29 but losing 1.8 points with seniors and 4 points with voters aged 50-64. Young voters are much more liberal than older voters. Every opinion poll and election result suggests this. Unless they’ve suddenly become much more conservative, them supporting Trump over Biden doesn’t make sense. Along with racedep, age depolarization ("agedep") is common in crosstabs of 2024 polls.
Those are not the only depolarizations supposedly going on, as can be seen in the tweet. Urban and suburban voters moving towards Trump while rural voters move towards Biden. Democrats moving towards Trump, Republicans moving towards Biden. Geographical and political polarization have been increasing in recent years, so this suggests a strange reverse of that trend. 2024 probably won’t be a large realignment, it’s more likely something is just wrong with the polls.
Explaining Primaries
Presidential primary season has been going on for a few months, after the Iowa caucus kicked it off in January. While Biden and Trump both won their primaries easily, how strong their performances were in different areas can reveal a lot about how certain groups are feeling about the candidacies of the two – like black, Hispanic, and young voters. But first, protest voting has to be explained.
When an incumbent president is running for reelection, they usually do not face much opposition in the primaries. Typically, only no-name minor candidates are the other people on the ballot besides the president. They do not have a chance at winning, but they do serve as a way for people who are upset with the president to express it. Sometimes, the “Uncommitted” option is also used to protest. Look back to 2012, when Obama was running for reelection. He swept the primaries, but his worst performances were in West Virginia, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Arkansas, where he got under 60% of the vote.
The four states all had something in common: a lot of the registered Democrats were white conservatives who before 2008 voted Democratic, but switched to McCain because they didn’t like Obama’s dark vision for America. They voted against Obama in the primaries because they didn’t like him and didn’t want him to be the nominee. Those voters would then go on to vote Republican in the general election. The places that swung the hardest against Obama in 2008 were also the places where he did the worst in the 2012 primaries.
2004-2008 swing
2012 Oklahoma Democratic presidential primary
2012 Arkansas Democratic presidential primary
2012 Kentucky Democratic presidential primary
2012 West Virginia Democratic presidential primary
Now, those four states were already very red even before 2008, Obama was not going to win them and he did not need to win them. But if a candidate is doing badly in a potentially competitive state’s primary, they should heed the warning – or risk losing. Another good example of protest voting can be found in the 2016 Democratic primary. Hillary Clinton did very poorly in the Rust Belt states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania – losing the first two to Sanders and coming close to losing the last. And where Sanders’s support was strongest was in rural areas – also the areas that swung the most towards Trump in the general election. Trump narrowly flipped all three of those states, winning him the presidency.
2016 Wisconsin Democratic presidential primary
2016 Michigan Democratic presidential primary
2016 Pennsylvania Democratic presidential primary
2012-2016 swing
The polls said Clinton would easily win all three states, while the primaries said she would struggle in them – and the primaries were right.
The 2024 Primaries
Presidential primaries can give an idea of where a candidate might underperform in the general election, and 2024 primaries are no exception. If black, Hispanic, and young voters are upset with Biden, like the polls are suggesting, then they will protest vote against him. The first primary that will be examined is the South Carolina primary. South Carolina is 26% black according to the 2020 census, and that number is even higher among Democratic primary voters thanks to the racial polarization of the state – Biden won 90% of black South Carolinians in the 2020 election, while Trump won 73% of white South Carolinians.
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South Carolina was also the first primary state (so Biden did not have momentum from winning contests at that point, nor was he the presumptive nominee), and the primary was open (meaning independents could vote), so the conditions for protest voting were as good as they could possibly be.
But despite all that, Biden got 96% of the vote.
If black people really are upset with Biden, they clearly don’t hate him enough to cast a protest vote against him. And looking at individual counties, there’s not even a correlation between the percent of black people and the percent of opposition vote. Biden got 97% of the vote in Allendale County (73% black, the blackest county in the state) and he got 95% in Pickens County (7% black, the least black county in the state). If anything, Biden did better in counties where there are more black people. And it’s not just South Carolina – in pretty much every state where black people make up a significant percentage of the Democratic electorate, Biden won by huge margins. He got 99% in Mississippi, 95% in Georgia, 90% in Alabama, and 86% in Louisiana. Biden came close to losing a few counties in Louisiana – but not the ones with lots of black people. The counties he did the worst in are heavily white. The same kind of people who gave Obama trouble in the 2012 primaries voted against Biden, too.
Evidently, black people aren’t protest voting against Biden. Young voters will be looked at next, using the Michigan primary. Just like South Carolina, Michigan has open primaries.
There was an organized campaign for the “Uncommitted” option in Michigan to protest Biden’s policy on Gaza and pressure him into calling for a ceasefire. The Uncommitted option did modestly well, getting 13% of the vote, slightly higher than it did twelve years ago when Obama was running for reelection. The Uncommitted campaign achieved their (unambitious) goal of 10,000 votes, getting slightly over 100,000. Biden got 81% of the vote, while Williamson and Phillips took the remaining 6%.
What’s interesting though, is where Uncommitted did the best. Its strongest performance was in Wayne County (which includes Detroit and a few other cities), where it got 17%. Wayne County is home to 140,000 Arab Americans who make up 7.8% of the county’s population, so the strong Uncommitted performance wasn’t surprising. The second strongest county for Uncommitted was Washtenaw County (also 17%), which doesn’t have many Arab Americans. What it does have, however, is the University of Michigan. With over 50,000 students enrolled, it’s one of the largest colleges in the country. Looking at a precinct map of the results for Washtenaw County, Uncommitted did well because UMich students were protest voting against Biden.
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Ann Arbor, the city where UMich is located, had a very high percentage of Uncommitted votes. There’s no doubt about it, college students were voting Uncommitted to protest Biden’s handling of the war in Gaza.
Looking at college counties in other primaries, there was generally a trend of the Uncommitted option (or whatever name the state has for it) doing well. In Dane County, Wisconsin (University of Wisconsin), there was lots of protest voting against Biden. “Uninstructed” got 15% in Dane vs 8% statewide.
“None of these names” did well in Douglas County, Kansas (University of Kansas), getting 14.5% of the vote, compared to the statewide average of 10.3%.
And Uncommitted got a sizable 21% in New Haven, Connecticut (Yale University), compared to 11% statewide.
There’s definitely some protest voting against Biden by young voters. But remember the reason most of them are unhappy with Biden in the first place: it’s because of Gaza. Trump is more pro-Israel then Biden, so it makes no sense for them to support him. That’s different from Haley voters, who are ideologically between Biden and Trump. Things may be more complicated than they seem, as will be discussed later, but first here’s the analysis of the third group Biden has been slipping with in polls: Hispanic voters. The Texas primary is a good place to judge how Hispanic voters are feeling about Biden. Texas has open primaries, like Michigan and South Carolina.
Biden did the worst in South and West Texas. One of the places he underperformed the most was the Rio Grande Valley (RGV). He got percentages in the 60s, 50s, and even 40s in many RGV counties, with his worst performance being in Zapata County, where he got a pathetic 40% of the vote.
The RGV is heavily Hispanic, so at first this seems like a validation of the polls showing Trump making massive gains among Hispanic voters – but it isn’t the only place in Texas where Hispanic people live. Biden performed very strongly in El Paso County, an 82% Hispanic county home to the city of the same name.
He also did well in places like Bexar County (San Antonio, 59% Hispanic), Dallas County (Dallas, 40% Hispanic), and Harris County (Houston, 43% Hispanic).
Looking at other states, it seems like Biden’s RGV performance was the exception, not the rule. He got 81% in Imperial County, California (86% Hispanic); and 83% in Santa Cruz County, Arizona (83% Hispanic).
Hispanic voters have been slowly trending towards Republicans over time, so Biden’s performances are even more impressive when that factor is taken into account. According to exit polls, Hispanic voters voted for Obama by 44 points, Clinton by 38 points, and 2020 Biden by 33 points. A lot of the people voting against Biden may be registered as Democrats but didn’t vote for him in 2020.
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Overall, primaries don’t support the polls showing Trump making huge gains among black/Hispanic/young voters. There’s zero evidence black voters are upset with Biden. As for the other two groups, there are some signs of discontent, but not enough to warrant the double-digit swings polls are showing. Biden’s underperformances in college counties/Hispanic counties, when present at all, are usually less than 10 points worse than his statewide performance. And that’s assuming every single person protest voting will go for Trump. If all protest voters really do vote for the other party in the general election, say hello to Biden’s second term, because Nikki Haley regularly gets twice the number of votes in Republican primaries as Biden’s opposition does in Democratic primaries. Even after she dropped out.
Midterms, Off-Years, and Special Elections
At the same time Biden has been doing well in primaries, Democrats have been scoring wins in special/off-year elections. These elections are historically correlated with the popularity of the president, so they conflict with the polls showing Biden down. Look at elections during the last three presidencies to know what happens when a president is unpopular.
While Trump was in office, he was quite the unpopular president, and his party lost many elections because of it. Through 2017-2019, Republicans lost a net 8 governorships, going from 34 to 26; and a net 41 House seats, going from 241 to 200. The only chamber they managed to gain in was the Senate (thanks to a very favorable map and increased polarization causing many Democrats in red states to lose) – but not without losing a special election in Alabama, a deep red state that had voted for Trump over Clinton by almost 28 points.
This pattern continues to back when Obama was in office. From 2009-2011, when he was at the height of his unpopularity due to the state of the economy and Obamacare, Democrats lost big. They went from 28 governorships to just 20, 257 House seats to only 193, and 59 Senate seats to only 53. Like Republicans with Alabama during Trump’s presidency, Democrats managed to lose a Senate special election in a state considered safe for their party – Massachusetts, which had voted for Obama by 26 points in 2008.
And it goes even further back to Bush’s presidency. Backlash over the wars caused Republicans to lose 6 governorships from 2005-2007 (going from 28 seats to 22), 30 House seats (232 down to 202), and 6 Senate seats (55 to 49).
But despite Biden’s unpopularity and bad polling, Democrats have been doing well in elections despite precedent saying they shouldn’t be. The 2022 midterms, which were supposed to be a red wave, were anything but. Democrats flipped a net 2 governorships and 1 Senate seat, and only barely lost the House. The small majority Republicans won has been giving them trouble when trying to govern. Already, one Speaker was ousted and it’s possible a second might be too.
More recently, Democrats won the governorship in Kentucky and almost won it in Mississippi, both very red states. They flipped the Virginia state house and won a supreme court election in Pennsylvania by a large margin. Two months ago, they won a competitive special election for a House seat in New York by a decisive 8-point margin.
Interestingly, the normal pattern of an unpopular president’s party doing poorly manifested early in Biden’s term. After his approval rating crashed during the Afghanistan withdrawal, Democrats went on to lose the governorship (and state house) of Virginia, and almost lost the governorship of New Jersey. Both states voted for Biden by double digits in the 2020 election. Something changed between November 2021 and November 2022 to cause this shift. It might have been the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe V. Wade and allow states to ban abortion. In several special elections right after the decision, Democrats overperformed massively. For example, Republicans won the special election for Nebraska’s 1st congressional district, which voted for Trump by 11 points in 2020, by only a 5-point margin. The election took place just four days after the Dobbs decision.
The Trump-backed candidates nominated in many Senate and governor elections could also be the ones to blame. Thanks to Trump’s endorsement, many extremist candidates won the primaries in key races. They often denied the results of the 2020 presidential election and had other problematic views. Most of them went on to lose the general election, sometimes by huge margins. Below is a table of all the results.
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Whatever the cause, Republicans flopped in 2022 and haven’t recovered since. And it doesn’t seem like Trump will be able to avoid the problems plaguing his party. His handpicked candidates were the ones that did terribly while other Republicans often did well; and the abortion issue isn’t just going away, not to mention Trump’s the one responsible for getting Roe overturned with his SCOTUS appointments.
Of course, there’s a counterargument: that Biden is somehow breaking historical precedent, and he’ll do badly while other Democrats do fine. That seems like a reasonable theory, until the fact that Biden vs Trump and the generic congressional ballot are polling exactly the same is considered. As of April 5th, at least.
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Since work on this essay has started, Biden has experienced a little surge of support in the polls. It could just be noise, but it might be something else.
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Biden has also been polling as well as (or sometimes even better than) hypothetical Democratic candidates for president like VP Kamala Harris, California governor Gavin Newsom, and Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer.
It could be argued Biden is only doing better because he has higher name recognition, and Democrats who don’t know the other three candidates are answering undecided. But Michelle Obama being extremely well-known didn’t stop her from trailing Trump by the exact same amount as Biden in a poll.
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Democrats are doing much better in actual elections than in polls, and Biden’s polling the same as other Democrats. It stands to reason that Biden would also do better in an election than in polls.
The Problem with the Polls
While primary and off-year elections suggest Biden isn’t doing badly, they still don’t explain the polls. One theory is that the black/Hispanic/young voters who don’t like Biden aren’t voting in any elections, that’s why Democrats are doing well. Perhaps the biggest proponent of this theory is Nate Cohn, the chief political analyst for the NYT.
This theoretical group of low-propensity Trump supporters who love answering polls but don’t vote in any elections sounds dubious, and that’s probably because it doesn’t exist at all. Biden’s bad polling is caused by two main things. The first is bad methodology, but before that is discussed, how polls work must be explained.
Polls work by contacting a certain number of voters, usually around a thousand, and asking them how they plan to vote. The 2024 options are usually Biden/Trump/Undecided/Other. Sometimes Other is changed to real third-party candidates, like RFK Jr. Polls also ask information on the voter, like their race, sex, age, and region. After data is collected, polls are weighted to reflect real demographics. For example, if a poll’s raw data has 40% of respondents living in urban areas while 60% live in rural areas, and the actual percentage of voters is 50% urban and 50% rural, then the responses of the urban voters are weighted higher. If that poll has urban areas voting 60D/40R and rural areas 40D/60R, then the raw data is 48D/52R while the weighted (and final) data is 50D/50R.
This seems like an effective way to avoid bias in polls, and account for lower response rates from certain groups. If rural voters are answering at a higher rate, just give them less weight. If Hispanic voters are answering at a lower rate, give them more weight. The thing is, voters don’t belong to just one group. A person can both live in a rural area and be Hispanic. And while groups (rural voters, Hispanic voters) are weighted, subgroups (rural Hispanic voters) are not.
Say, rural Hispanic voters are more Republican than urban and suburban Hispanic voters. Say, they’re answering polls at higher rates as well. Rural voters will be weighted lower in the poll, but that’s just all rural voters combined. Rural Hispanic voters are not weighted vs other Hispanics. That would lead to Hispanic voters in the poll being more Republican than they are in reality.
A typical poll has around a thousand respondents, and a margin of error of about ±3%. The sample sizes for different groups, however, are much smaller, which means a bigger margin of error. Let’s say Hispanic voters are 10% of the poll’s respondents, or a hundred in total. That’s a margin of error of ±8%, much larger than the ±3% for the poll as a whole. And if rural Hispanic voters are 20% of all Hispanic voters, that’s a margin of error of ±18%! Small inaccuracies in subgroups can cause a ripple effect that makes the whole poll wrong. Let’s do a simulation to show this effect off.
  • True voting intention among all Hispanic voters is 63% Biden, 37% Trump (D+26).
  • True voting intention among all non-rural Hispanic voters is 65% Biden, 35% Trump (D+30).
  • True voting intention among rural Hispanic voters is 55% Biden, 45% Trump (D+10).
  • 100 Hispanic voters answer the poll.
  • Rural Hispanic voters make up 40% of the poll’s respondents (40 people), they make up 20% of the real Hispanic population. Since subgroups are not weighted, their influence on Hispanic voters in the poll is double what it should be.
  • Due to the large margin of error of ±13%, rural Hispanic voters who answered the poll said they’d vote 45% Biden, 55% Trump. That’s 22 Trump voters and 18 Biden voters answering the poll. A proportional sample would have 22 Biden voters and 18 Trump voters. That’s just a 4-person difference.
  • Non-rural Hispanic voters in the poll said they’d vote 65% Biden, 35% Trump (the true number).
  • The average of Hispanic voters in the poll is 57% Biden, 43% Trump (D+14), a 12% swing from the true numbers.
And all that must happen for this problem to occur regularly is for Trump-voting rural Hispanics to answer polls at a slightly higher rate than Biden-voting rural Hispanics, and rural voters to answer polls at a higher rate than urban voters. And since polls collect responses from people who answer the polls first, the effect can happen easily.
You guessed it, this is happening in real life. And not just with Hispanic voters, but with everyone.
A pattern among 2024 polls is that rural voters are answering at a higher rate than urban/suburban voters. In one NYT/Siena poll (Trump+4), rural voters made up about 35% of the respondents, when they only made up 19% of the 2020 electorate.
In another poll by Grinnell College (Trump+7), rural voters made up 27% of the respondents. Voters who said they lived in a “town” made up 17%, and it’s likely at least some of them would break for rural if they had to choose between urban/suburban/rural.
Looking at the 538 poll database, a clear pattern emerges. Polls that have Trump leading Biden have a proportion of rural voters that is way too high. Polls where Biden leads Trump have more normal numbers.
Rural voters tend to be more conservative and vote Republican, and sure enough, Republicans are answering at a higher rate then Democrats. (scroll to "Do you consider yourself a Democrat, a Republican, an independent or a member of another party?" for the NYT/Siena poll and the top of page 6 for the Grinnell College poll. Both show more Republicans answering the poll than Democrats.)
One pollster, Susquehanna Polling and Research, remarked that Trump supporters seem to have higher enthusiasm than Biden supporters, and so are answering polls at a higher rate.
The second reason why Trump may not be winning Pennsylvania has to do with who is answering polls. We suspect because Trump is the only candidate with “enthusiastic” voters, it’s Trump voters in particular who are disproportionately talking to pollsters. It’s the reverse of what happened in 2016, when the phenomenon of “shy” Trump voters meant that many pollsters undercounted Trump’s base of support. Many voters were afraid to admit they were Trumpers back then. Today, we suspect many pollsters are not adjusting their samples to account for this “non-response” bias, as it’s typically called. But SP&R is doing so.
Polls also say that Trump voters are more enthusiastic than Biden voters.
Republicans are slightly more enthusiastic ahead of November’s general election, edging out Democrats, according to a new survey.
In the poll, released Thursday by Gallup, 59 percent of Republicans said they are more enthusiastic about voting in the upcoming election than in previous years. Fifty-five percent of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents said they felt the same.
Groups like seniors and white voters may not be swinging towards Trump because there isn’t an enthusiasm gap, unlike with black/Hispanic/young voters. According to a YouGov poll, groups that aren’t swinging towards Trump in the crosstab aggregate are also paying more attention to the election (and therefore are more enthusiastic, and answering more polls). When black/Hispanic/young voters start paying more attention, they’ll get enthusiastic and start answering polls, which should improve Biden’s polling.
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And that rural Hispanic voter hypothetical was based on something real. Rural Hispanic voters were already more Republican than other Hispanics in the 2020 election; and Biden did badly in the rural RGV in the primaries while doing better in cities like El Paso. The difference may be even larger than it was four years ago, with rural Hispanics swinging against Biden while urban and suburban Hispanics don’t. Rural Hispanics make up a small percentage of Hispanic voters (scroll down to "Area type"), so this swing doesn’t mean much for Biden’s electoral prospects. It screws with the crosstabs of Hispanic voters, however.
As Biden’s voters become more enthusiastic and the gap closes, polls may start swinging towards him as more of his voters answer polls. There have already been signs of this happening, like that surge in support mentioned earlier. Perhaps it’s because of the recent ad blitz by Biden energizing his supporters?
Oversamples, and the True State of the Election
Biden voters are not answering polls as much as Trump voters, and this is creating big swings in crosstabs thanks to low sample sizes. Polls with bigger sample sizes would be much better. The margins of error would be much smaller and the crosstabs much more accurate. Unfortunately, it’s too expensive to make polls with huge sample sizes, but there’s still the next best thing – oversamples.
Oversamples are polls that poll only one specific group. While a normal poll polls everyone, an oversample might poll only black voters, for example. Because of the big sample sizes, oversamples are much better for determining the voting intentions of groups than just looking at the crosstabs of normal polls. Oversamples can also use more advanced methods of polling to reach people who may not respond otherwise.
There are three oversamples that are going to be examined here. The first is by Black PAC, and it’s an oversample of black voters.
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Trump gets a pathetic 8% of black voters, less than half of the polling aggregate showing him getting 18%. This, along with Biden’s strong primary performances, suggest that the bad polling for Biden among black voters is entirely due to bad polling methodology.
Next, Hispanic voters. An oversample of Hispanic voters by Univision shows Biden leading Trump 58-31 (27 points). Again, that’s completely different from the polling aggregate showing Biden winning them by only 6 points. It is a slight decrease from 2020, where he won them by 33 points; but like stated earlier, Hispanics have been trending right for a while, so Trump making small gains among them isn’t surprising.
And finally, young voters. Split Ticket, an election prediction and analysis website, polled young voters. They used live text interviews, rather than a normal method like calling landlines.
In the poll, Biden leads Trump 35-25, a 10 point lead. Biden is disapproved of by 68% of young voters, while Trump is disapproved of by 70%. Of the three oversamples, this is the only one that lines up closely with the crosstab aggregate (Biden+8). Biden won young voters by 24 points in 2020, so it looks Trump is making large gains among the group.
But it’s not that simple.
Biden and Trump have a similar total disapproval rating, but the number of respondents who strongly disapprove of Trump is 61%. For Biden, it’s just 44%. This means Trump likely has a lower ceiling of support with young voters than Biden does – it’s hard to get someone who hates you to vote for you.
Additionally, young voters who disapprove of both Biden and Trump overwhelmingly prefer Biden to Trump. RFK Jr. actually wins this group, but like all third party candidates, his support is declining as the election gets closer. The combined voteshare in polls for RFK Jr. and Cornel West (a left-wing independent candidate) has been steadily decreasing. 6 months ago, it was 17.9%. Today, it’s only 11.5%. This raises the question of who RFK Jr.’s supporters will break for when they realize he can’t win.
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Based on the approval ratings of Biden and Trump, and the “double haters” who already have chosen sides, it seems like the vast majority of young RFK Jr. supporters will go for Biden. His lead among young voters will only increase as time goes on. Of course, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to run ads like these to speed up the process.
Split Ticket also conducted a poll using a more normal method, an opt-in web panel. This poll had Trump doing much better with young voters than in their live text poll. So yes, some commonly used polling methods don’t work correctly!
Conclusion
Biden has been polling badly lately. He’s been trailing Trump nationally as well as in swing states. Polls say key parts of the Democratic base, black/Hispanic/young voters, are abandoning Biden in huge numbers. But when looked at closely, it’s not so simple. Other signs for Biden are pretty good. He’s been doing pretty well in primaries, and Democrats have been doing well in special and off-year elections. Polls are underestimating Biden’s support due to bad methodology and Democrats not answering polls. Oversamples show Biden doing fine with black voters, and mostly fine with Hispanic voters. The only group he really needs to work on is young voters, by trying to decrease RFK Jr.’s support.
So, 2024 won’t be a red wave where Trump wins big. But current signs don’t suggest 2024 is going to be a blue wave either, just another extremely close election like 2016 and 2020 both were. But there’s reason to believe Biden might outperform his 2020 showing despite that.
The American public is not very engaged right now, as there’s still seven months until the election, so Trump’s latest ventures with the legal system aren’t on people’s minds. When people tune in more, he can only get hurt from it. There’s also the massive fundraising gap between the two, which Trump is scrambling to close.
Here’s a prediction for how the election will actually go (margins are 20+, 15-19.9, 10-14.9, 5-9.9, 1-4.9, <1).
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2024.05.11 21:09 Cautious_Security_68 The nature of the awakened

update
There was some guy who did some kind of research on what each awakened persons influential metric is in energetic terms, i for get who but it was like one awakened person can shift energies or something for a very large number of people, maybe thousands or millions. Almost like one spokesperson for each segment of society in a spiritual energetic sense.
Most social media influencers conflagrate that energy just posting garbage media or ineffectual non spiritually aimed drivel about the main stream fear and control mongering or the rally cry of those against it in so called conspiracy circles.
I mean, lets call a spade a spade here, its shooting blanks on the spiritual level, it might as i just posted culminate in some people getting lawfare savvy like in michigan where a township fired their government and now in maricopa, but it cant do what we can do.
The inherent problem is its materialistic its all based on the separated perception from God source and tends to just look and sound chaotic, but these events will continue, citizens will get lawfare hardened and take things to task, a flood of it is coming actually.
Spiritually though, what we will see is that people will start to become frightened into place as this power matures in us through correcting all separations, if all 68 followers here were at the same level of realization in knowing no separated aspect from God can stand before us nor any storm deny our ability to command it. fear of God source comes from being under the law which is love and entertaining many spirits that cause separation. ive seen it happen around me. sit dog sit ! God source in us is a fearful presence to the spirits of separation in others. fully awakened and undivided in that oneness what ive been shown is all wed have to do is show up and demand everything corrupt come to heel and it would.
Update
At around 3 minutes is this depiction, to be awakened is to literally fuck their false energy matrix up and because of their seers and all of that the false powers that be KNOW precisely when you get fed up with the matrix of false being and the jolting that happens broadly is like a shockwave to everyone on earth. because youre essentially viewing the summary of all things that is at the end of this video and making the personal transformative adjustments to each that. That power in this video depiction was what i was getting pissed off about others not seeing 4 years ago, but then Ive been shown this since childhood.
If youre here with me in realization you know intimately the dark entities this main character was oppressed by prior to the three minute mark and the tranformation that came after and the entire world seemingly being against you when the truth is they left you no other viable course which was part and parcel to their plkace in Christ as well, because you were closer to the goal than most and so the fire had to come, the refining pressures.
The false powers that be in that way of thinking about it only amplified the need to resolve meaning on some spiritual level leaving you no path but the sword, they acted in concert with Christ and God source \because any other avenue was destruction. But the power im talking about is pretty sweetly displayed after 3 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA3iscoypcY
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2024.05.11 20:27 Mojo-Filter-230 Proud to wear diapers.

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2024.05.10 23:47 TatiannaOksana Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Detected in New Michigan Dairy Herds

Sorry if already posted, the news is coming in so quick that it’s hard to decipher if something has already been posted, again I do apologize if this is a repeat The link below lists numerous counties, however, it does not mention exactly how many herds.
https://www.michigan.gov/mdard/about/media/pressreleases/2024/05/10/highly-pathogenic-avian-influenza-detected-in-new-michigan-dairy-herds
May 10, 2024
Today, Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural Development (MDARD) Director Tim Boring announced the detection of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) in dairy herds in Allegan, Clinton, Gratiot, Ingham counties and an additional herd in Isabella. The Michigan State University Veterinary Services Laboratories confirmed these detections. Samples have been sent to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) National Veterinary Services Laboratory for additional confirmatory testing.
Regardless of species, biosecurity remains the best tool available to combat HPAI. On May 1, 2024, Director Boring issued the “Determination of Extraordinary Emergency HPAI Risk Reduction and Response” Order. In addition to other protocols, the order requires all dairy operations in Michigan to adopt enhanced biosecurity measures, collectively reducing the risk of introducing this virus on to farms. On May 3, 2024, additional guidance was issued to help producers enact these requirements, which went into effect on May 8, 2024. In addition to these requirements, following a few key steps can also be fundamental to protecting the health and vitality of Michigan's dairy cattle: Delay or stop incoming or returning animals from herds with unknown or suspect health status. Isolate all animals that are new or returning to your farm. Monitor the health of your animals daily. Contact your veterinarian if there are ever any animal health-related concerns or if you would like to develop a secure food supply plan. Sick animals should have dedicated equipment and be cared for after tending to healthy animals first. Clothing, footwear, and equipment worn/used around sick animals should not be worn/used around other animals until they are cleaned and disinfected. Use an EPA-registered disinfectant effective against avian influenza. Do not share tools, equipment, trailers, etc. with other farms. Clean and disinfect the interiors of trailers used to haul animals from other operations. Limit non-essential visitors to your farm. If individuals have recently been on a poultry farm, they should not visit a dairy operation, and vice versa. Require or provide clean clothing and footwear to those entering your farm. Use hand-washing stations and provide gloves to those working on your farm. As part of the disease response, MDARD is working with the herd's veterinarian to monitor the health of the animals and conduct trace investigations. MDARD continues diligently working with local, state, and federal partners to quickly respond to reports of HPAI to mitigate the spread of the disease and provide outreach.”
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2024.05.10 21:01 Smithc0mmaj0hn Why did Hunterdon county never recover from 2008 financial crisis

This is anecdotal but I grew up in Hunterdon county specifically Clinton Township. I moved away after college, not far, spent some time in New Brunswick, Morristown, Springfield, and Chatham.
When I go back to Hunterdon to visit my parents I’m shocked by the lack of progress and the seriously questionable project which were approved. So many establishments feel rundown.
For example, the Walmart in Clinton use to be nice, then they ripped up the floors and the polished concrete just look terrible. The whole store feels like there is less care and effort put into maintaining it.
The new apartment building in Clinton where the A&P is, who in their right mind approved that, it looks terrible and cheap.
I drove through Flemington the other day and that massive new sign they build by the new circle is falling apart, it must be less than 5 years old.
Flemington has built so many apartments it’s weird, they don’t really have the infrastructure for those types of units but we do need more housing so I can’t complain
Even Lambertville and Frenchtown lost some of their sparkle.
It feels like the wealth which made much of Hunterdon great has evaporated and I suspect it started after 2008.
I’ve wondered how much is a bias I’m applying in the form of nostalgia or if anyone else feels things are slipping in the HC.
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2024.05.10 15:43 boutell New US and Canadian CHAdeMO chargers in April 2024

Welcome to the March new chargers report, fellow Chadoomers!
Almost all of you are my fellow Leaf owners, hoping for just one new chargepoint on your favorite route, before the great dwarven CHAdeMO forges beneath the earth go cold for all time. Here's an update.
Here are all of the new US and Canadian CHAdeMO (Leaf fast-charging) stations that rolled out in April, according to the Alternative Fuels Data Center. You can fetch the data yourself here. Feel free to report inaccuracies to the AFDC.
For comparison's sake: in the US, there were 200 "new" (or updated) CHAdeMO stations added in March, with at least 200 chargepoints. To put it in perspective, there were 102 new or updated US stations in April of 2023. This month's report is surprisingly strong, given how late we are in CHAdeMO's lifecycle. It is unclear if this is due to a large number of refreshed stations, or a large rollout of new stations that happen to include at least one CHAdeMO chargepoint, but it may be the latter thanks to Inflation Reduction Act funding. In any case, it is good news for those of us with legacy vehicles.
Keep in mind that even EVGo has started to roll out stations where only some of the bays support CHAdeMO. This makes sense given that only Nissan still sells a CHAdeMO pure-battery-electric car in the US, and the newer Nissan Ariya model is CCS. The Mitsubishi Plug-In Hybrid Outlander PHEV also supports CHAdeMO.
Some of these chargepoints will be "refreshes," e.g. the provider replaced them with faster chargers etc. Some may be incorrect. This report is only as good as the Alternative Fuels Data Center data.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, or reading these monthly reports is just frustrating in your state, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications only when new stations actually open. You can sign up at evpov.com. I built it to help EV owners like myself (especially my fellow Leaf owners). You can pick other plug types as well.
To streamline this post, multi-chargepoint locations are listed with the number of chargepoints first. Some stations may actually have more CHAdeMO chargepoints than reported here, but most won't, because even EVGo has started to reduce the number of CHAdeMO chargepoints per station. So in the case of CHAdeMO I make a pessimistic assumption to avoid creating unrealistic expectations.
Even so, for actual trip planning I recommend using PlugShare. This report is mainly useful to understand trends.
If you get a chance, do check out reported new stations near you and add PlugShare reviews, which helps everyone.
➡ AB (1) MD SMOKY RIVER DCFC STATION 1 701 Main St SW Falher, AB T0H 1M0 ➡ AR (1) Evt 1425 ohlendorf rd Osceola, AR 72370 ➡ AZ (1) HYUNDAI PEORIA PUBLIC LEVEL 3 8425 W Bell Rd Peoria, AZ 85382 ➡ BC (1) 7Charge - Abbotsford 1915 McCallum Rd Abbotsford, BC V2S 3N1 (1) Honda Burnaby - DC 5723 Marine Way Burnaby, BC V5J 0A6 (1) Bill Howich Chrysler - Smart DC 2777 North Island Highway Campbell River, BC V9W 2H4 (1) Honda Surrey - Smart DC 15291 Fraser Highway Surrey, BC V3R 3P3 (1) QUADREAL CA STALL 128 658 Homer St Vancouver, BC V6B 2R4 (3) QUADREAL CA STALL 110 658 Homer Street Vancouver, BC V6B 2R4 ➡ CA (2) WC ACURA CPE250-2 8375 E La Palma Ave Anaheim, CA 92807 (1) Tony's Pizza 10701 CA-178 Bakersfield, CA 93306 (1) Banning Farm's House Restaurant 6261 Joshua, E Palmer Dr Banning, CA 92220 (1) Solar Express 2434 San Pablo ave Berkeley, CA 94707 (3) LOVES CA BORON DCFC 1 27201 Boron Frontage Rd N Boron, CA 93516 (1) Flitway - Gordon Ranch Marketplace 2545 Chino Hills Pkwy Chino Hills, CA 91709 (1) 99 Ranch Chino Hills 2959 Chino Ave Chino Hills, CA 91709 (1) Flitway - East Lake Village Center 2220 Otay Lakes Rd Chula Vista, CA 91915 (1) Hilton Concord 1970 Diamond Blvd Concord, CA 94520 (1) Flitway - Inter-Community Hospital 212 W San Bernardino Rd Covina, CA 91723 (1) CULVER HONDA CPE250 BL 9055 Washington Blvd Culver City, CA 90232 (1) Delhi Unified School District 16491 Schendel Avenue Delhi, CA 95315 (2) DOWNEYHYUNDAI CPE250 2 7550 Firestone Boulevard Downey, CA 90241 (1) Chevron Elk Grove Gas Station 9299 Bond Road Elk Grove, CA 95624 (1) Sierra Plaza 815 Kern St Fresno, CA 93706 (1) Fresno Metro Black Chamber of Commerce - 1600 Fulton 1600 Fulton Street Fresno, CA 93721 (1) Wyndham Garden Fresno Airport 5090 East Clinton Way Fresno, CA 93727 (1) Ridgemark Gold Club & Resort 3800 Airline Hwy Hollister, CA 95023 (1) Flitway - Trabuco Community Center 5701 Trabuco Rd Irvine, CA 92620 (1) The Elysian 1115 Sunset Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90012 (1) Motel 6 North Hills 15711 Roscoe Blvd North Hills, CA 91343 (1) Pacoima Van Nuys Blvd 13520 Van Nuys Blvd Pacoima, CA 91331 (1) Palmdale City Hall 38250 Sierra Hwy. Palmdale, CA 90245 (1) Foodsco Northgate #355 3625 Northgate Blvd Sacramento, CA 95834 (4) LOVES CA CA SALINAS DC 4 1264 De la Torre St Salinas, CA 93905 (1) Sunny Plaza 529 E Valley Blvd San Gabriel, CA 91776 (1) Seven Trees Shopping Center 4060 Monterey Hwy San Jose, CA 95111 (1) FREEWAY HONDA DC FAST 01 1505 Auto Mall Dr Santa Ana, CA 92705 (1) SJCHA Sierra Vista Phase 1 1520 Eleventh Street Stockton, CA 95206 (1) SJCHA Sierra Vista Phase 2 2439 Volney Street Stockton, CA 95206 (1) HACSJ Tracy Homes 340 W 4th St Tracy, CA 95376 (1) Sheraton Universal Hotel DC 333 Universal Hollywood Dr Universal City, CA 91608 (1) Brian Allen 128 E Chestnut Ct Visalia, CA 93277 (1) City of Los Angeles Lot 696 835 N Avalon Blvd Wilmington, CA 90744 ➡ CO (1) SCVHISTSOC PIONEER TOWN 1 388 S Grand Mesa Dr Cedaredge, CO 81413 ➡ CT (2) 365 E MAIN ST CPE250 2 365 East Main Street Branford, CT 06405 (1) GURUKRUPA GI LLC EV-1 85a Hemingway Ave East Haven, CT 06512 (1) Pomfret Town Hall - SmartDC 5 Haven Rd Pomfret Center, CT 06259 ➡ FL (1) Orange County Health Department 12050 E Colonial Dr Orlando, FL 32826 (1) Evermore Orlando Resort 1570 Evermore Way Orlando, FL 32836 (1) Evermore - EVA 3 2420 North Beach Lane/Flats Orlando, FL 32836 (2) BMW SARASOTA FAST CHARGE 2 5151 Clark rd Sarasota, FL 34233 (2) C-HYUNDAI CPE1 3810 W Hillsborough Ave Tampa, FL 33614 (1) Hammock Landing 4311 Norfolk Pkwy West Melbourne, FL 32904 ➡ GA (2) GEORGIA POWER AMERICUS DC1 202b U.S. Hwy 19 Americus, GA 31719 (1) ABM Electrification Center 2715 Ronald Reagan Blvd Cumming, GA 30041 (2) GENESIS CUMMING STE1 750 Peachtree Parkway Cumming, GA 30041 (2) GEORGIA POWER DONALSON DC2 209 Cherry St Donalsonville, GA 39845 (2) GEORGIA POWER GEORGE DC1 1 Main St Georgetown, GA 39854 (2) GEORGIA POWER RICHLAND DC 2 26 Stewart St Richland, GA 31825 ➡ HI (1) Kapolei Commons provided by Hawaiian Electric Company 4470 Kapolei Parkway Kapolei, HI 96707 ➡ IA (1) Indian Creek Nature Center 5300 Otis Rd SE Cedar Rapids, IA 52403 (1) Storm Lake 1250 N Lake Ave Ste 2 Storm Lake, IA 50588 ➡ ID (1) BRONCO HYUNDAI FV L3 #2 9250 Fairview Ave Boise, ID 83704 (1) BRONCO HYUNDAI FV L3 #1 9250 Fairview Avenue Boise, ID 83704 ➡ IL (1) Jo-Carroll Energy - Elizabeth 311 East Myrtle Street Elizabeth, IL 61028 ➡ IN (2) ANDY MOHR HYUND SERVICE 1441 Liberty Dr Bloomington, IN 47403 (1) Madison 590 Ivy Tech Dr Madison, IN 47250 (1) STOOPSEV 480V EV CHARGER 4055 W Clara Ln Muncie, IN 47304 ➡ KS (1) EVERGY @PRSONCITY-437A 1600 Main St Parsons, KS 67357 ➡ MA (1) 400 SUMMER ST 400 SUMMEP1-1 4 W Service Rd Boston, MA 02210 (6) 400 SUMMER ST 400 SUMMERP2-3 400 Summer St Boston, MA 02210 (1) 400 SUMMER ST 400 SUMMEP2-2 410 Summer St Boston, MA 02210 (2) CAPE_ASSOCIATES MONOMOY 782 Main Street Chatham, MA 02633 (1) ALDEN BUICK GMC ALDEN LV3 #1 6 Whalers Way Fairhaven, MA 02719 (1) WFSU SCIENCE STATION 577 Western Avenue Westfield, MA 01085 ➡ MD (1) BGE - CCBC Essex 7201 Rossville Blvd Baltimore, MD 21237 (1) Skipjack Art Studios 329 Cannon Street Chestertown, MD 21620 ➡ MN (1) Cannon Falls 650 Main Street West Cannon Falls, MN 55009 (1) Chisholm 201 West Lake Street Chisholm, MN 55719 (1) City Of Crosby Library 101 1st Street Southeast Crosby, MN 56441 (1) WASC 425 Winnebago Avenue Fairmont, MN 56031 (1) City of Faribault 17 3rd Street Northeast Faribault, MN 55021 (1) Service Foods 321 West Lincoln Avenue Fergus Falls, MN 56537 (1) City of Fosston 220 1st Street East Fosston, MN 56542 (1) Burger King 2200 10th Street East Glencoe, MN 55336 (1) Grand Marais Public Utilities City Hall Parking Lot - South Side 15 Broadway Grand Marais, MN 55604 (1) City Of Little Falls NaN null Dewey Parkway Little Falls, MN 56345 (1) Mankato Area Foundation 115 South 2nd Street Mankato, MN 56001 (1) Schmelz Countryside Volkswagen 1180 Minnesota 36 Maplewood, MN 55109 (1) 36Lyn Refuel Station 3551 Lyndale Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55408 (2) Nelson Auto World 1625 Como Avenue Southeast Minneapolis, MN 55414 (1) Noodles & Company 922 Holiday Drive Moorhead, MN 56560 (1) Motley Motel 165 Riverfront Lane Motley, MN 56466 (1) City of New Ulm 541 2nd Street North New Ulm, MN 56073 (1) City Of Owatonna 215 Walnut Avenue South Owatonna, MN 55060 (1) Fresh Thyme Farmer's Market 1615 1st Street Southwest Rochester, MN 55901 (1) City Of Saint Peter 114 West Nassau Street Saint Peter, MN 56082 (1) Saint Peter Food Cooperative 228 West Mulberry Street Saint Peter, MN 56082 (1) City Of Springfield 601 East Rock Street Springfield, MN 56087 (1) City Of Saint Cloud 501 1st Street North St. Cloud, MN 56303 (1) Doc's Sports Bar and Grill 88801 Warbler Lane Sturgeon Lake, MN 55783 (1) Northern Lights Casino - Walker 6800 Y Frontage Road Northwest Walker, MN 56484 (1) Waseca Utilities NaN null 19th Avenue Northwest Waseca, MN 56093 (1) White Bear Lake Superstore 3880 U.S. 61 White Bear Lake, MN 55110 (1) WSU - Integrated Wellness Complex 118 West Mark Street Winona, MN 55987 ➡ MS (2) NECDC STATION 2 (R) 101 Dempsey Rd. Byhalia, MS 38611 (2) CLW 5TH ST 1 (L) 301 5th Street South Columbus, MS 39701 ➡ NB (1) St. Hubert Express 890 Saint Anne St Bathurst, NB E2A 6X2 (1) Irving 1735 Hanwell Rd Hanwell, NB E3C 2B8 (1) Tesla - 13995 - Miramichi 2485 King George Hwy Miramichi, NB E1V 6W7 (1) Gateway Plaza 2 Gateway Dr Oromocto, NB E2V 4S3 (1) Visitor Info Centre 34 Mallard Dr Sackville, NB E4L 4C3 ➡ NC (1) City of Asheboro Library 201 Worth St Ashboro, NC 27203 (1) Parkside Town Commons 7129 O’Kelly Chapel Road Cary, NC 27519 (1) Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians 946 Tsalagi Rd. Cherokee, NC 28719 (1) Town of Franklin 95 E Main 95 E Main St. Franklin, NC 28734 (1) DEP Pierce and Co 4229 Sam Potts Hwy Hallsboro, NC 28442 (1) Richmond Community College 1042 W Hamlet Ave Hamlet, NC 28345 (1) City of Hickory-DCFC 306 MAIN AV NW Hickory, NC 28601 (1) Pilot Travel Center 683 1800 Princeton-Kenly Road Kenly, NC 27542 (1) dba Piggly Wiggly 61 2715 Hwy 11/55 Kinston, NC 28504 (1) City of Lowell 519 Park Cir Lowell, NC 28098 (1) Catawba Vale Collaborative LLC 96 Commerce St. Old Fort, NC 28762 (1) Triangle Stop - Saluda 1484 Ozone Dr Saluda, NC 28773 (1) City of Sanford - 101 East Humber st 101 E Humber St. Sanford, NC 27330 (1) Haywood CC West Waynesville An 23 Hendrix St Waynesville, NC 28786 (1) 402 S Bridge St 402 S Bridge St Wilkesboro, NC 28697 (1) Blacks Tire Service 1407 Castle Hayne Rd A Wilmington, NC 28401 (1) Quality Oil Company 1980 Pecan Ln Winston Salem, NC 27284 (1) City of Clinton 110 Loop St clinton, NC 28328 (1) Quality Mart 62 - 1736 NC 67 1736 NC 67 jonesville, NC 28642 ➡ ND (1) Simonson Station Store Minot 1310 South Broadway Minot, ND 58701 ➡ NJ (2) LIBERTY TOYOTA STATION 2 4397 U.S. 130 Burlington, NJ 08016 (2) BOARDWALK HONDA CPE250 1 6807 Tilton Rd Egg Harbor Township, NJ 08234 (2) WALDWICK PUBLIC DCFC #2 15 E Prospect St Waldwick, NJ 07463 (1) QUICKCHEK CP- QC186-2 3483 U.S. 22 Whitehouse Station, NJ 08889 (1) QUICKCHEK CP-QC186-1 3483 U.S. 22 Whitehouse station, NJ 08889 ➡ NM (1) COLUMBUS EV PARK 1 216 Broadway Deming, NM 88030 (2) AVANYU AVANYU LEFT 618 N Riverside Dr Española, NM 87532 ➡ NY (1) NYC FLEET DPRWFMARNA_1_L3 1 Marina Road Queens, NY 11369 (4) KENNETH DR Q KENNETH DR 1 375 Kenneth Drive Rochester, NY 14623 ➡ ON (1) Crowe’s Car Wash 8461 County Road 45 Alderville, ON K0K 2X0 (1) CenterLine Corporate - DC 415 Morton Drive LaSalle, ON N9J 3T8 (1) OXFORD DODGE DODGE L3 S1 1249 Hyde Park Road London, ON N6H 5K6 (1) IDEAL HONDA FAST CHARGER 1700 Toyo Cir Mississauga, ON L4W 0E7 (1) Myers Barrhaven Subaru - Fast Charger 4151 Strandherd Drive Ottawa, ON 45.2653 (4) IKEA EV FLEET 2 1475 The Queensway Toronto, ON M8Z 1T3 (1) Winash Limited Partnership - SmartDC 5550 Baldwin Street South Whitby, ON L1M 0M5 ➡ OR (1) WCEH Banks 660 Main Street Banks, OR 97106 (1) WCEH Detroit 220 D St Detroit, OR 97342 (1) WCEH McMinnville 499 NE Davis St McMinnville, OR 97128 (1) ARCO - Market Street NE, Salem 2979 Market St NE Salem, OR 97301 (1) WCEH Woodburn 2900 Tom Tennant Dr Woodburn, OR 97071 ➡ PA (2) BENNETT HYUNDAI SALES 2101 Cumberland St Lebanon, PA 17042 ➡ QC (1) Canadian Tire - Jonquière 2290 Blvd René Lévesque Jonquière, QC G7S 5Y5 (1) DION CHEV EV CPE250C-625-CCS 2200 Rue Sherbrooke Magog, QC J1X 4Z6 (1) RECHARGECO ST-LEONARD 01 7150 Boul Langelier Montréal, QC H1S 2X6 (2) HARDY RINGUETTE #4 1842 3e Avenue Val-d'Or, QC J9P 7A9 ➡ SD (1) Northwestern 117 Mitchell Boulevard Mitchell, SD 57301 ➡ TN (2) SPRFLD ELECTRIC STATION 1 (L) 401 N Main St. Springfield, TN 37172 (2) MLEC STATION 2 (R) W 210 West Main St Waverly, TN 37185 ➡ TX (1) AZTEC EV AZTEC CHEVROLET 772 U.S. 181 Beeville, TX 78102 (1) GROUP1AUTO CPE250 2 10155 Southwest Fwy Houston, TX 77074 (1) GROUP1AUTO CPE250 ALONE-3 10455 Southwest Fwy Houston, TX 77074 (1) Gigahub - Katy Fwy, Westlake 14401 Katy Fwy Houston, TX 77079 (2) WHOUSTON 250 GENESIS 2 16803 Katy Fwy Houston, TX 77094 (1) KV MAIN CAMPUS KV RETAIL DC 2 145 Avery Rd Kerrville, TX 78028 (1) HONDAOFCLEARLAK EXPP PUBLIC 1 2205 Gulf Fwy S League City, TX 77573 (2) MESSER HYUNDAI CPE250-PAIR2 4025 West Loop 289 Access Road Lubbock, TX 79407 (1) WORLD AUTO CHEVYPECOS 181 South Interstate 20 Frontage Road Pecos, TX 79772 (1) Target San Antonio #T0771 2810 Southwest Military Drive San Antonio, TX 78224 ➡ UT (1) DAVIS COUNTY UT DCG EAST 61 South Main Street Farmington, UT 84025 ➡ VA (1) LYNX VENTURES STATION 14 DC 0 E 4th St Richmond, VA 23224 ➡ VT (1) Grace Cottage Hospital 185 Grafton Road Townsend, VT 05353 ➡ WA (1) KIA OF EVERETT KIA OF EVERETT 229 Southwest Everett Mall Way Everett, WA 98204 (1) WCEH City of Pateros 203 Pateros Mall Pateros, WA 98846 (1) ARCO 7091 - 104th Drive NW, Stanwood 26930 104th Drive NW Stanwood, WA 98292 (1) Sumner Cannery Way 13608 Cannery Wy Sumner, WA 98390 ➡ WI (1) TOB CHARGEPOINT SHOWROOM LOT 20655 W Capitol Dr Brookfield, WI 53045 (1) Cadott River Country Plaza 641 Wisconsin 27 Cadott, WI 54727 (1) City of Eau Claire 122 East Madison Street Eau Claire, WI 54703 (1) 29 Pines 5872 33rd Avenue Eau Claire, WI 54703 (1) Hampton Inn And Suites 2610 Pearson Drive Hudson, WI 54016 (1) HEISER TOYOTA 1 CPE250 11301 W Metro Auto Mall Milwaukee, WI 53224 (1) Prime Bar Family Dining null N7294 Service Road Trego, WI 54888 (1) Kwik Trip 1760 Temte Street Helmen, WI 54636 
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2024.05.10 15:33 boutell New US and Canadian CCS chargers in April 2024

Here are all (*) of the new US and Canadian CCS (Level 3 fast-charging) stations that rolled out in April 2024, according to the Department of Energy. You can get the data yourself here.
These chargers are suitable for most new EVs on the market, except for:
  1. Tesla drivers who haven't bought the official CCS adapter yet. Certain older Teslas need additional work done to accept the adapter.
  2. Leaf owners like me, owners of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, and some owners of older cars that also use CHAdeMO. If you drive such a car, see my matching post in leaf.
Some of these chargepoints will be "refreshes," e.g. the provider replaced them with faster chargers etc. Some may be incorrect. This report is only as good as the Alternative Fuels Data Center data.
There were 330 CCS charging stations with a total of 682 chargepoints added or refreshed in April 2024, which is a major uptick in both stations and chargepoints. There were only 166 new CCS charging stations in April 2023, with only 267 chargepoints. Things are trending dramatically upwards.
Some part of this is due to Tesla Magic Dock stations. Previously Tesla didn't report these to the AFDC as CCS, but now they do. And that makes sense because all CCS drivers can use them.
NOTE: most Tesla Superchargers do NOT have magic dock as of this writing (all those shown in this report should have it). I recommend using PlugShare to locate compatible stations for your vehicle.
(*) "What about other Tesla Superchargers? Can't everybody charge with NACS now?"
It's coming for many makes and models, and for newer Ford models as well as a few other manufacturers charging at v3 and v4 Superchargers is already an option with a free adapter from the automakers. GM should release their adapter in the coming weeks. But since they are not open to all CCS vehicles, this report is not the place for them. Tesla's app provides the best guide to their locations, including locations that work with non-Tesla vehicles.
Other Notes
To streamline this post, multi-chargepoint locations are listed with the number of chargepoints first.
For serious trip planning, I recommend PlugShare. But by all means check out these reported new locations and submit reviews on PlugShare, which makes things better for everyone.
If you'd like to know about new chargers along your routes right away, or just prefer not to check this list monthly when new openings are rare in your area, I've set up a free service that provides email notifications as soon as they open. You can sign up at evpov.com. Or not! I don't really have a business plan here, I built it to help EV owners like myself. PlugShare has a similar feature.
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Palmdale, CA 90245 (4) Foodsco Northgate #355 3625 Northgate Blvd Sacramento, CA 95834 (4) LOVES CA CA SALINAS DC 4 1264 De la Torre St Salinas, CA 93905 (3) Sunny Plaza 529 E Valley Blvd San Gabriel, CA 91776 (6) Seven Trees Shopping Center 4060 Monterey Hwy San Jose, CA 95111 (6) Almaden Plaza 4950 Almaden Expy San Jose, CA 95118 (1) FREEWAY HONDA DC FAST 01 1505 Auto Mall Dr Santa Ana, CA 92705 (2) SJCHA Sierra Vista Phase 1 1520 Eleventh Street Stockton, CA 95206 (2) SJCHA Sierra Vista Phase 2 2439 Volney Street Stockton, CA 95206 (2) HACSJ Tracy Homes 340 W 4th St Tracy, CA 95376 (2) Sheraton Universal Hotel DC 333 Universal Hollywood Dr Universal City, CA 91608 (2) Brian Allen 128 E Chestnut Ct Visalia, CA 93277 (4) City of Los Angeles Lot 696 835 N Avalon Blvd Wilmington, CA 90744 ➡ CO (1) SCVHISTSOC PIONEER TOWN 1 388 S Grand Mesa Dr Cedaredge, CO 81413 (2) San Isabel DCFC 8900 Interstate 25 Rye, CO 81069 ➡ CT (2) 365 E MAIN ST CPE250 2 365 East Main Street Branford, CT 06405 (1) GURUKRUPA GI LLC EV-1 85a Hemingway Ave East Haven, CT 06512 (2) New Country Motor Cars Group = Porsche Greenwich 241 West Putnam Ave Greenwich, CT 06830 (2) Pomfret Town Hall - SmartDC 5 Haven Rd Pomfret Center, CT 06259 ➡ FL (4) Carrabelle Fire Department 105 Tallahassee St Carrabelle, FL 32322 (1) Ed Morse Cadillac Delray Beach 2300 S.FEDERAL HIGHWAY DELRAY BEACH, FL 33483 (4) Flying J 624 29933 State Road 52 Dade City, FL 33576 (4) Chipotle Beach and University 5801 Beach Blvd Jacksonville, FL 32207 (2) Miller Electric - Electric Vehicle Innovation Design Center (EVIDC) 6811 Southpoint Pkwy Jacksonville, FL 32216 (2) Tom Bush BMW Jacksonville 9875 Atlantic Blvd Jacksonville, FL 32225 (2) Tom Bush BMW Orange Park 6914 Blanding Blvd Jacksonville, FL 32244 (1) Ford Midway Mall 8155 West Flagler Street Miami, FL 33144 (4) Palmetto 57 Volkswagen 16825 NW 57 Av Miami Gardens, FL 33055 (2) Orange County Health Department 12050 E Colonial Dr Orlando, FL 32826 (1) Evermore Orlando Resort 1570 Evermore Way Orlando, FL 32836 (2) Evermore - EVA 3 2420 North Beach Lane/Flats Orlando, FL 32836 (1) Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Tampa Bay 3255 Gandy Blvd N Pinellas Park, FL 33781 (2) BMW SARASOTA FAST CHARGE 2 5151 Clark rd Sarasota, FL 34233 (2) C-HYUNDAI CPE1 3810 W Hillsborough Ave Tampa, FL 33614 (2) BRANDON FORD LVL 3 #2 (CP) 9090 East Adamo Drive Tampa, FL 33619 (4) Hammock Landing 4311 Norfolk Pkwy West Melbourne, FL 32904 (12) Audi West Palm Beach 2101 Okeechobee Blvd West Palm Beach, FL 33409 ➡ GA (2) GEORGIA POWER AMERICUS DC1 202b U.S. Hwy 19 Americus, GA 31719 (2) GEORGIA POWER SHALLOWFORD EXP 4404 North Shallowford Road Atlanta, GA 30338 (9) ABM Electrification Center 2715 Ronald Reagan Blvd Cumming, GA 30041 (2) GENESIS CUMMING STE1 750 Peachtree Parkway Cumming, GA 30041 (2) GEORGIA POWER DONALSON DC2 209 Cherry St Donalsonville, GA 39845 (2) GEORGIA POWER GEORGE DC1 1 Main St Georgetown, GA 39854 (2) GEORGIA POWER RICHLAND DC 2 26 Stewart St Richland, GA 31825 (1) Walker-Jones 2700 MEMORIAL DRIVE WAYCROSS, GA 31503 ➡ HI (2) Kapolei Commons provided by Hawaiian Electric Company 4470 Kapolei Parkway Kapolei, HI 96707 ➡ IA (2) Indian Creek Nature Center 5300 Otis Rd SE Cedar Rapids, IA 52403 (3) JUNGE FORD - 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2024.05.10 13:42 Fickle-Rock-97 “it undermines the very essence of the democratic process” Michigan AG Indicts Pro-Trump Attorney Stefanie Lambert on New Charges

Stefanie Lambert, a pro-Trump attorney, has been indicted on new charges by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. She faces accusations alongside Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott for allegedly assisting someone in accessing confidential voter information. Nessel’s office is charging the two with facilitating unauthorized access to an electronic poll book, which contains non-public information such as names and addresses of voters in specific precincts.
“When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process,” Nessel emphasized. “Those who engage in such reckless conduct must be held accountable for their actions.”
According to The Detroit News, “Nessel, a Democrat, and the state’s top law enforcement official revealed the charges in a news release, which didn’t detail specifically which pieces of data were allegedly made available to an unauthorized individual through what Nessel’s office described as a ‘2020 election voter data breach.’ Lambert, an attorney who was once involved in a suit to overturn Democrat Joe Biden’s 2020 presidential victory in Michigan, illicitly transmitted data from the Adams Township electronic poll book ‘concerning the 2020 general election under the direction of Scott,’ the statement from the Attorney General’s office said.”
“When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process,” stated Nessel. “Those who engage in such reckless conduct must be held accountable for their actions.”
Lambert was already facing multiple charges, including “undue possession of a voting machine, conspiracy to commit undue possession of a voting machine, conspiracy to commit unauthorized access to a computer system, and willfully damaging a voting machine.” She had turned herself in to authorities in March after being the subject of a bench warrant.
This is not the first time a local elections official has been implicated in alleged criminal activity related to Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. Tina Peters, the former clerk of Mesa County, Colorado, was sentenced to home detention and community service last year after she obstructed government operations in an attempt to breach election equipment. She was accused of working to validate the conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was stolen.
The latest charges against Lambert and Scott represent a broader investigation into individuals attempting to undermine election integrity in Michigan. Scott, as an elected official, had previously made headlines for refusing to certify the results of the 2020 election, citing unsubstantiated concerns about voter fraud. Nessel’s office alleges that Scott’s actions went beyond mere rhetoric, extending to illegal activities involving unauthorized access to voter data.
Lambert, meanwhile, has been an outspoken advocate of Trump’s claims about election fraud and has represented various clients involved in efforts to overturn the election results. The new charges against her suggest a deeper involvement in actions designed to support those conspiracy theories.
The Michigan Attorney General’s office remains committed to holding accountable anyone involved in election interference. Nessel emphasized that protecting voter privacy and maintaining the integrity of elections are fundamental principles of democracy and that violations will not be tolerated.
The conspiracy theories surrounding the 2020 election have already had far-reaching implications for individuals and institutions involved in the electoral process. Election workers across the nation have reported harassment and threats, and public trust in the election system has been undermined. Nessel’s pursuit of charges against Lambert and Scott sends a strong message that those who attempt to manipulate the electoral process for political gain will face legal consequences.
Beyond Michigan, similar efforts to manipulate election equipment have been investigated and prosecuted in other states. Tina Peters’ case in Colorado is just one example of how local officials have been caught up in attempts to breach election systems. The coordinated nature of these activities highlights a widespread effort to validate unfounded claims about the 2020 election.
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2024.05.09 18:59 larrykestenbaum I'm running for re-election as county clerk this year

I'm Lawrence (Larry) Kestenbaum, Washtenaw County Clerk and Register of Deeds. I'm a candidate for re-election this year. I have one opponent in the August 6th primary; there are also two candidates competing for the Republican nomination.
(I have been active on Reddit for years, mainly under my personal account -- u/old-guy-with-data )
The county clerk is the county's chief election official, records all births, deaths, and marriages, among other things. The register of deeds (a separate position in most Michigan counties) records all the land records for the county.
I was first elected in 2004, defeating my Republican predecessor. Washtenaw used to be a Republican county; I'm the first Democratic county clerk in seven decades. I was re-elected in 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020.
I have accomplished many things in my time as clerk. The office is now more efficient and more transparent than ever before. We meet the growing service needs of this county with half as many employees as I had when I started.
My commitment is that every person who comes to our office be treated with courtesy and respect. Even, or especially, those who are rude, or angry, or agitated, or confused.
In March 2014, when a federal judge struck down Michigan's anti-gay-marriage amendment, for what turned out to be 24 hours, I opened the office on a Saturday to process marriage licenses for same-sex couples. Three other county clerks followed my lead, hundreds of couples were married, and the whole country got a glimpse of what marriage equality would mean to our citizens.
Before I was clerk, I was one of the pioneers of the World Wide Web. In 1996, I created the Political Graveyard web site, which made a lot of U.S. political history available online.
And, as clerk/register, I have vastly expanded online access to county records.
When I took office, all of the county's deeds and land records, on paper in bound volumes, dating back to 1824, were stored in the basement, in downtown Ann Arbor, which is at risk for a catastrophic flood. Now, all of those documents have been imaged and made available online, while the actual books have been moved to a safer location.
I have also worked with the Civil Rights Initiative at the UM Law School, and the organization Justice InDeed, to document Washtenaw County's dark history of racially restrictive covenants.
I was well prepared to be the county's chief election official. I had served as a poll worker and challenger in city and township elections, and as an attorney for candidates in recounts. Starting in the 90s, I've written and lectured on issues ranging from authenticating voters to the appropriate technology for tabulating ballots.
I have been a longtime advocate for needed changes in the election system, including no-reason absentee voting and post-election audits. I have been in the forefront of those fighting the unconstitutional 2012 law that makes it far more difficult for voters to recall their elected officials.
Conflict over elections is expected to reach a crescendo this year, particularly in the "swing state" of Michigan:
The best defense against voter suppression and disruption is a county clerk with deep election experience.
I would appreciate your support.
--Larry Kestenbaum, Washtenaw County Clerk / Register of Deeds
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2024.05.09 18:42 lII1lIIl1IIll1Il11l This movement is misguided. It should be an all state protest vote movement. Look how little Joe gives a fuck during an election year where he's risking losing. After the election Joe Biden will have no incentive to prevent a genocide. We should be calling on Biden to resign.

Look how little Biden is doing, during an election year where his unpopular policies on Israel/Palestine is causing so much division on the left. The campaign stopped going to college campuses, a demographic which makes the majority of the ground game of every swing state, and the ground game is one of the most essential elements of any election.
After the election, Biden will have no incentive to stop a Palestinian genocide
Notice how Biden did jack shit until recently?
Notice how all of this didn't happen until the eve of the Michigan vote? The Biden campaign must have had internal polling there and what they saw scared the shit out of them
The Biden campaign should have a lot more viral clips by now, but they're all interrupted by protestors. They should have a lot more volunteers by now, college aged people make a large part of a campaigns most essential component, the ground game. But they have stopped all college events
And what incentive Biden will have after the election?
He is the number one ranked Democrat for AIPAC, by a large margin
Biden has long gone further than many of his fellow Democrats in defense of Israel. As a senator, he backed moving the American embassy to Jerusalem decades before Donald Trump made that a reality, boasted about attending more fundraisers for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) than any other senator, and savaged an effort by George H.W. Bush to push Israel toward negotiating with Palestinians. As vice president, he undercut Barack Obama’s efforts to push Israel toward peace. As president prior to October 7 he continued policies implemented by Trump that sidelined Palestinians.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/12/how-joe-biden-became-americas-top-israel-hawk/
He thwarted HW Bush's plans to stop violence against Palestinians
Neither Obama nor Hillary would let let the current war go on this long without threatening to withhold military aid. In fact, that's what they did, for preventing settlers from murdering Palestinians on a much, much smaller scale, and Biden maliciously destroyed their plans for it. All because Biden has a fetish for Israeli politicians
It's the second time in history that a vice president aggressively sabotaged the plans of a president. The other time?
Pence not rejecting the results of the election
Netanyahu wrote that Biden made his willingness to help clear during an early meeting in Washington. “You don’t have too many friends here, buddy,” Biden reportedly said. “I’m the one friend you do have. So call me when you need to.”
during a critical period early in the Obama administration, when the White House contemplated exerting real pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu to keep the possibility of a Palestinian state alive, Biden did more than any other cabinet-level official to shield Netanyahu from that pressure”
In 2010, Netanyahu’s government infuriated Obama and his advisers by announcing a major settlement expansion while Biden was in Israel. Biden and his team wanted to handle the dispute privately. Obama’s camp took a different route by drawing up a list of demands to be made of Netanyahu. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton then gave the prime minister 24 hours to respond, warning him “If you will not be able to comply, it might have unprecedented consequences on the bilateral relations of the kind never seen before”
Biden was soon in touch with a stunned Netanayhu. A former administration official who saw the transcript of their call told Beinart that “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave [Netanyahu] a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus” by Biden, the official added
Biden has a huge fetish for Netanyahu
Both before and after October 7, the empathy Biden is known for has rarely extended to Palestinians. Rashid Khalidi, the Edward Said Professor of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University, said such statements are missing “to the degree that I don’t really think he sees the Palestinians at all.” In contrast, Khalidi added, Biden sees Israelis “as they are very carefully presented by their government and their massive information apparatus”
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When the prime minister and his staff visited the White House soon after, one of Netanyahu’s top advisers told the New York Times Magazine that Biden reminded him, “Just remember that I am your best fucking friend here.” Thanks in part to the support from Biden, Netanyahu learned not to be concerned by Obama’s effort to push for Palestinian statehood. “He entered the lion’s den and came out in one piece,” a senior US official told Israeli journalist Ben Caspit. “He began to understand that Obama’s bark is much worse than his bite, that there is no reason to fear him”
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For the rest of Obama’s presidency, Biden would remain the man who had assured Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren in the early days of the administration that “Israel could get into a fistfight with this country and we’d still defend you.” During Obama’s final days in office, a United Nations resolution came up that demanded a halt to Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank and other occupied territory. On a call to discuss how the United States should vote at the UN, multiple administration officials told Beinart, only Biden and then–Treasury Secretary Jack Lew supported vetoing the resolution. Unusually, Biden and Lew failed in that effort. Lew is now Biden’s ambassador to Israel
Biden is unique in enabling the worst policies against Palestine, democratic or republican, 2nd to Trump. Btw, Biden has never revised any of the Trump era policies against Palestine
Look at how little of a fuck Joe has for Palestinians including children and babies starving and being burned alive to death during an election year.What will happen after the election
Biden will have absolutely no incentive to prevent a Palestinian genocide. Benjamin Netanyahu knows this. Maybe he'll do a temp ceasefire. You can absolutely bet Benjamin Netanyahu will look to 'Finish the job'. Netanyahu is patient and persistent with his vision for Gaza
We shouldnt just to voting uncommitted, we should demand he resign
Enough children, toddlers, and children have been burned/shot/starved to death because Biden was nominated in 2020. We shouldn't tolerate it anymore
Any democrat that replaces Biden probably won't be amazing for Palestine and they'll be pro-Israel. But in the democratic party, Biden is entirely unique in going above and beyond in enabling Israels worst violence
Yes, Kamala will be status quo about Israel, just doing what her foreign policy advisors tell her to do, and the status quo isn't great for Palestine, but she doesn't have a particular Israeli politician fetish like Biden. She'll likely be the typical establishment democrat policy on Israel, established by Obama and Hillary, which includes which includes hard consequences, or would have included hard consequences if Biden hadn't sabotaged their efforts
It's a long shot. But we have to try. Infants and children are literally being staved to death and burned alive. We can not be an empathy-less society
Furthermore, we can't risk womens' rights and our entire democracy on a candidate whose adamant about going into the election with a divided left.
FURTHER READING
To really show how hyperzionism is unique to Biden/Trump including both democrats/republicans:
-Eisenhower made his objections heard about Israel's illegal seige of the Suez Canal by declaring the US's intent to vote in favor of a UN Resolution demanding a ceasefire, and also publicly threatened to withhold aid if Israel didn't immediately withdraw
-JFK publicly threatened Israel over their illegal pursuit of nuclear ambitions. He also had plans to make Israeli lobbies register as a foreign agent
-Nixon threatened the end of aid and military orders if Israel continued to fail to abide by the terms of Security Council Resolution 338
-Jimmy Carter literally has written a book called: Palestine: Peace not Apertheid, and a sequel
-Reagan, yes Reagan, threatened to suspend the delivery of military orders to Israel during the Lebanon war, and later promised to restrict aid and military assistance to Israel to force its withdrawal of troops from Beirut and central Lebanon after Israel deliberately sabotaged a negotiated ceasefire by bombing Beirut, infuriating Reagan. Also Reagan forcefully negotiated against Israel's wishes a deal with regional neighbors to extradite PLO leadership to a place of political asylum using Peacekeepers as a middleman
-H.W. Bush pushed Israel toward engaging with Palestinians’ demands for sovereignty and an end to the Israeli military occupation of the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and other territory seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. He demanded that Israel stop building settlements in occupied territory in violation of international law if it wanted to receive billions of dollars in loan guarantees . (Biden actively thwarted these plans )
-Obama and Hillary had a plan for thwarting settler violence. They actually sent Benjamin Netanyahu this, "“If you will not be able to comply, it might have unprecedented consequences on the bilateral relations of the kind never seen before.” (Biden then told Netanyahu not to worry about any of that, and that he would take care of it, fucking destroying Obama and Hillary's plans)
All of these are playbooks Biden could have pulled bits and pieces from at any time
The status quo is better than the soft on military allies approach that is unique to Trump and Biden
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2024.05.09 16:20 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.

Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers. How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect? Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country? The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump. See this --Italics mine. © Thomson Reuters By Nathan Layne (Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term. Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state. Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing. Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show. In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law. "When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement. Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states. Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 16:09 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.

Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.
How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 16:08 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.

How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 16:06 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.

.How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 16:04 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.

How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 16:03 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of criminal election deniers.


How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 15:59 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of election deniers.


How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 15:58 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of election deniers.

How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 15:56 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of election deniers.

How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant, Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 15:54 LetterGrouchy6053 Yet even more indictments of election deniers.

How many indictments such as these will it take before the general population admits Trump, and despots like this, tried to nullify 87 million votes and overthrow a duly and honestly elected president? Are they so filled with hate for some of their fellow Americans that they'll attempt to overthrow our government and destroy the democracy so many members of the military gave their lives to protect?
Stop and consider for a moment the character of the average Trump supporter you meet on the street. Is this the caliber of person you want to determine the future of our country?
The tide is turning against this cadre of malcontents and criminals, hundreds and hundreds of indictments all across our nation are raining down upon them, and no matter their station, presidential advisor, former cabinet member, lawyer, or local official, they will all be tried, convicted, and sent to prison along with the tyrant ,Trump.
See this --Italics mine.

© Thomson Reuters
By Nathan Layne
(Reuters) - A Michigan township clerk was charged with multiple felonies on Wednesday, the latest turn in a state inquiry into efforts by Donald Trump supporters to tamper with voting machines to prove his false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to fraud.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement that former Adams Township Clerk Stephanie Scott, 52, has been charged with five felonies related to unauthorized use of a computer, concealing a voting machine, and misconduct in office, and one misdemeanor for disobeying the secretary of state. The most serious count carries a potential seven-year prison term.
Nessel also added three felonies to the charges faced by Scott's attorney Stefanie Lambert, who was already facing multiple charges over allegations she accessed and tampered with voting machines in other incidents across the state.
Neither Scott nor Lambert immediately responded to a request for comment. Lambert has previously denied wrongdoing.
Scott, a Republican, had overseen voting in rural Adams Township until the state revoked her authority over elections in 2021 for resisting state orders to allow testing and maintenance on the voting tabulator in her care, claiming it would erase evidence of potential fraud. Scott withheld a critical component of the tabulator until it was seized by state police, law enforcement records show.
In addition to disregarding orders from the state authorities regarding the tabulator, Nessel accused Scott and Lambert of providing a computer examiner unauthorized access to non-public voter information in violation of state law.
"When elected officials and their proxies use their positions to promote baseless conspiracies, show blatant disregard for voter privacy, and break the law in the process, it undermines the very essence of the democratic process," Nessel said in the statement.
Reuters reported on the potential violation in late 2022, detailing Scott's sharing of a file containing confidential voter data with Benjamin Cotton, an information-technology expert who had worked with voter-fraud conspiracists seeking unauthorized access to election systems in other states.
Scott's actions were part of a national effort by public officials and others seeking evidence of Trump's false stolen-election claims. The allegations against Scott have parallels to the high-profile case of Tina Peters, the clerk in Mesa County, Colorado, who is set to go to trial this year over an alleged scheme to breach secure equipment in her own elections office in 2021 to try to uncover evidence of election fraud.
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2024.05.09 13:15 DogsAndPickles Well now this political behavior investigation is hairy because maybe TRUMP had a point about something. I didn’t know anyone got in trouble for breaking election laws and I also didn’t know there were election laws

Well now this political behavior investigation is hairy because maybe TRUMP had a point about something. I didn’t know anyone got in trouble for breaking election laws and I also didn’t know there were election laws submitted by DogsAndPickles to StoriesForMyTherapist [link] [comments]


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