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2024.05.13 14:15 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to HighStrangeness [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/zz1ti49qm60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e53f7b8ec62fb68abc04a29caa117d2f21c13325 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/xpyz6eeum60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=292a9a3afe55c7e83d0f6d5ccce43aa5f35d9fec Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/tl0dx4lym60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca523a7f18df130f09c9174e925d044a89852690 Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/mk91ugp3n60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=8218b2c6c3b0a508ef086c37c2d0e07552f73910 https://preview.redd.it/7cehtg65n60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=805fe3d0c8be92d888412d1eeccef6bc88a4708a https://preview.redd.it/izuhsjl6n60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=215f53fa963abdeecb06ad8074583f7260b2df69 https://preview.redd.it/no9xn3f7n60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ed13e6bf07df8a251f6368aab92383ad1bb26ca https://preview.redd.it/hnf9x148n60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=80de62f126a5f7770a12790d167e0aebea8ef378 Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/o7w5pu2in60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d203853c4be4a37108aeea4a7122826bd21525bb This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/3ei6o741q60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=2de94be231313b38b979bbd4b46b3800466e8f26 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. There is of course much to be said about these images and the potential for further investigations, including the peculiar hands this entity seems to posses that does have a passing resemblance to other cases, but lest this drag on to long I will leave it here and attempt to answer any questions that I may be capable of giving insight on. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
2024.05.13 14:14 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to Humanoidencounters [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/le5wrt3rm60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39919dfcd089925de049eb66794003a5dab20573 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/tc06rvxum60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=141ee2128cdcd0894f57f999876ff380a4def235 Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/39i2rdvxm60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=14bf476ca33164db334bc4b835a52b349d66990d Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/tp2rqzw9n60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bef77464608273cc1e6cc1f5b30665c5040a5c2 https://preview.redd.it/vekj9dman60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba133aa62862f89a1e361e21a93de19e9d549496 https://preview.redd.it/sve90i9bn60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=36e737a33624530c85e48f99d9ffd2d7db04d9f5 https://preview.redd.it/03pcokzbn60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8503bec04896be177ce5420daf0ee71482318a6 https://preview.redd.it/yeehoehcn60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=d33d814521c2581d2cb3b5c830fa62c5bae5782e Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/0s611i7hn60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbc1472a0e49504d71a975ebaccb91639e592ed1 This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/gkgzwmvyp60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=65238cf5324c0acfcc076966d141d0114eb89be5 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. There is of course much to be said about these images and the potential for further investigations, including the peculiar hands this entity seems to posses that does have a passing resemblance to other cases, but lest this drag on to long I will leave it here and attempt to answer any questions that I may be capable of giving insight on. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
2024.05.13 14:14 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to aliens [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/1hnyv22bo60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09e5d51a28114e50ae3b1334c4aeda7109558444 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/ntnngh1fo60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=7685ab304637834f06c14c93b6158e23f8ed66a6 Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/y99g6yhho60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=a784d5d82998aab7784b0e0ff8507bf999b7e320 Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/gkd3fj3oo60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f338883f62abde93e6b1218b3191b13658dc32b https://preview.redd.it/7gc9l0uoo60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc71696af8105b30f865affcb325b31655c17532 https://preview.redd.it/t0opnydpo60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=da17154ba1e5f4943f0e38094d87819b63229d41 https://preview.redd.it/1bmptx1qo60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=d25f5df93e493b58ed46d19b61119b539338972b https://preview.redd.it/qoaheyjqo60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fd19b6d756df32c032ce84b2289437081695893 Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/6e3ymfuxo60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c77b73123544adddbf17bacb780841cd81a61a6b This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/21kjohdup60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=177c364d88aa666573433fc2510a448ad4847398 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
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For the eighth consecutive session, the 30-stock Dow saw gains of 125 points on the Dow Jones Industrial Average futures. Stock Market TodayDue to sluggish gasoline consumption and remarks from US Federal Reserve officials that dashed expectations of interest rate cuts, oil prices in India continued to fall on Monday. US West Texas Intermediate crude prices were down 5 cents to $78.21 per barrel, while Brent crude futures declined 0.1% to $82.72 a barrel.According to independent expert Tina Teng, oil markets have once again turned their focus back to the global economic picture, brushing off the effects of the turmoil in the Middle East. The market capitalization of Tata Motors dropped to Rs 3,17,998.73 crore from Rs 29,946.88 crore. The company, riding with all three of its auto companies, particularly the British arm Jaguar Land Rover, posted an almost three-fold increase in consolidated net profit at Rs 17,528.59 crore in Q4. Compared to Rs 1,05,932.35 crore year over year (YoY), the total consolidated income from operations was Rs 1,19,986.31 crore. The Nifty Auto index is currently trading at 22,190.65, down 639.60 points, or 2.82 percent. Nifty PSU Bank, Sonal BLW, Tube Investments, and Tata Motors are among the top losers. The India VIX, which measures volatility, has somewhat recovered from its peak for the day and is currently trading 2.19 points, or 11.86 percent, higher at 20.65. Nifty Pharma has moved up 0.18 percent, or 31.60 points, to 18,644.45. Aurobindo Pharma, Sun Pharma, Cipla, and Lupin are among the top gainers. Although consolidated net profit for the fourth quarter increased by more than three times to Rs 17,528.59 crore, Tata Motors’ share price fell by more than 9%. On Friday, shares valued at Rs 2,117.50 crore were sold by Foreign Institutional Investors (FIIs). Learn More: https://worldmagzine.com/stock-market/current-updates-on-the-stock-market-today/ |
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2024.05.12 01:26 CazOnReddit A Speedrunner's Guide to Bruce Brown - And What Can Be Done on Draft Night (Part 1)
The only thing more underwhelming that the Pascal Siakam trade has been the discussion surrounding it, full stop. submitted by CazOnReddit to torontoraptors [link] [comments] While there's certainly a discussion to be had about how the assets they've obtained have been used - the Ochai Agbaji/Kelly Olynyk trade with the Jazz is a homerun given the front office only gave up a bottom 3 pick in a draft executives have repeatedly expressed dissatisfaction with the prospect - the package of Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, Kira Lewis and 3 firsts - two of which were protected (The Pacers picks are Top 3 and Top 4 protected, though the former will convey at 19th in the 2024 NBA draft) - gave the Raptors neither a prospect one could expect to develop into a starter in the immediate future. We all know this, we've all talked about this, it's been done to death and the fact that two of those first rounders came from a draft class the Raptors felt comfortable trading out of via a lightly protected first-rounder last season to acquire Jakob Poeltl speaks well enough for the strange sequence of events that culminated in the exit of a player who expected to be a Raptor for life. Equally drawn out - but more relevant as the draft fast approaches - has been the discussion of the main piece of salary that came back from Indiana, NBA champion Bruce Brown. Initially seen as a trade piece to potentially bolster the return one got for Pascal, Brown has been underwhelming as a depth piece and simultaneously was not moved at the trade deadline for the Raptors asking price of a first round pick or a young player. While the former can be attributed to a knee injury, the fact remains that Toronto didn't get what they were hoping for at the deadline and a down year from the supporting player has only served to complicate getting that 1st rounder the Raptors were so adamant to acquire. Diminished or not, there is value to be had for Bruce Brown, albeit for different reasons than his on-court contributions. The 2024 free agency class is a weak one, and while there are a few interesting players who could make for interesting bench additions before one has to worry about the cap impact of Scottie's presumed max extension, ultimately there aren't any standouts for upgrading the team's point of needs. Sure, Jalen Smith would be a nice bench big addition but he's not going to move the needle from play-in territory to surefire playoff seed. Whether or not his play has affected his value as a contributor to a playoff team's front office, Bruce Brown does have some value as salary relief for a team at or near the first apron - and a few of them just happen to be around the late lottery or have a future 1st to part with. While Brown alone might not be enough to secure a first rounder, it is possible he could be moved with the Pacers pick to move up in the draft to go after a player the Raptors are interested in (It's been frequently mentioned that Masai was spotted scouting Tidjane Salaun though that doesn't necessarily mean anything; he was also spotted scouting Ismael Kamagate in 2022 yet we went with Christian Koloko) but may not fall to 19. That's obviously not the same value as getting a 1st but it is useful, and depending on the incoming salary they get in return, they could find themselves a cheap fix for the current roster's many flaws via a "distressed asset" a la RJ Barrett; the future point guard and current center positions are locked up but while RJ and Scottie will continue to start, it's up in the air where 2-thru-4 they'll be and who'll take the last position, doubly so with Trent Jr.'s extension is seemingly dead in the water. In part 1, we'll go over three of the teams that might make for a trade partner to move up from the Raptors current pick situation. Chicago Bullshttps://preview.redd.it/g4ppml85krzc1.png?width=784&format=png&auto=webp&s=faf5335b01aeed5379977057b25e708d8a16183aMost likely player(s): Lonzo Ball 2021/22 Stats: 13 points, 5.4 rebounds, 5.1 assists 42.3% FG, 42.3% 3P, 75% FT Incoming salary: $21.3 million (Net of -1.6 million) Pick(s) available: 11th pick in 2024 draft, future 1st from Blazers (Lottery protected thru 2028) Quick note before going forward: While there may be instances where I list multiple picks from a given team, it's altogether unrealistic to expect more than 1 being exchanged unless it's a case where the Raptors are trading down for for two picks in this draft, say, they move from 19th to 22nd and 23rd this year in a similar fashion to what the Grizzlies did in the 2022 NBA draft. However, given the Raptors already traded the worst of the 2 1st rounders they acquired in this draft, I don't think they'll add another draftee unless someone on their board falls to a position they'd feel comfortable making a deal for. Anyway, this is perhaps the most obvious suggestion if one operates under the assumption that the Bulls will live up to their namesake with the profound stubbornness and refusal to rebuild they've displayed over the past few years. Assuming they bring back DeMar, Chicago seems poised to at the very least run it back - if only so they don't give up a valuable pick they owe to the Spurs (Top 10 protected) in 2025 - and they have a very obvious player to attach/dump with their pick. Unlike other names that will come up, it almost feels pointless to discuss Lonzo Ball as a player because he hasn't played in over 2 years. The once-promising point guard has been on a lengthy recovery timeline and while there's been some talk of him making a return next season, there's zero certainty that the same Ball which had the Bulls as a 1 seed back in 2021/22 will be the one hitting the hardwood. It's not impossible that he'll return like nothing happened but the most likely scenario is whomever is holding Lonzo's Bird Rights by the 2025 offseason will end up waiving them or buying him out. With the rise of Coby White - a point guard who, quite frankly, should have won MIP over Maxey - and Ayo Dosunmu improving in his own right as a capable backup point, Chicago has all the reason to rid themselves of Lonzo's not insignificant portion of the team's cap if they plan on making their mandatory play-in appearance. Brown would give them a depth piece off the bench that can contribute right now while still keeping that alleviation an expiring contract grants their increasingly complicated salary concerns with DeMar poised for a pricey new contract (Ironically, the Bulls trading Lonzo for Brown would increase their payroll by around $1.6 million but I digress). Heck, if the Bulls try to run it back but find themselves ready to embrace the rebuild they should have at last year's deadline - it isn't altogether difficult for them to meet the requirements to hit on their pick's protections in 2025 - they can likely recoup some value via moving Brown at the 2025 deadline or earlier on the season should they decide to #RaisetheFlagg early. So yeah, Lonzo and the 11th for Bruce Brown and 19th. Maybe they expand this into a 3/4 team deal involving Zach Lavine being sent to another team and reroute something to Toronto. Maybe Toronto turns that 11th pick in to the 2025 first that the Raptors reportedly wanted at the deadline and merely select in the Top 6 (if they keep their pick) and 31st. Maybe you wrap in a Boucher deal in to this or Chris ends up in Chicago as well. Maybe you opt for the Blazers future 1st (which is heavily protected until 2028 so...maybe not). Maybe you try and call the Spurs to see if giving that pick will let them change the protections on Toronto's owed pick (I doubt they give back pick control outright for the 11th pick in this draft). Point is, there's a lot of options but as far as frameworks/trade partners go, they're a very obvious one and it makes sense for both parties if the Bulls do decide to run it back against all good judgement...the key word being "if". The one complicating factor in all of this is the Bulls might not want nor be able to keep DeMar at the price tag/years he's seeking. Fit concerns and faux contender status aside, the 76ers are a preferable scenario compared to the Bulls as a playoff team and it's easy to see a world in which Philadelphia adds a new albatross contract to replace Tobias Harris' with via an aging, albeit still very productive on offense, DeMar DeRozan. With his extension status up in the air, it's entirely possible he'll hit free agency and walk, leaving the Bulls with an absolute nightmare of an offseason to navigate with Zach LaVine likely on the bloc with no one wanting him. Whether or not LaVine is on the move on draft night in his own right is an open question. Chicago has a lot of question marks of their own heading in to the draft but the same cannot necessarily be said for the next team... Utah Jazzhttps://preview.redd.it/10pgl6e8krzc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=3418daf4e620428f032dd3c84e7784eef65a1a7fMost likely player(s): John Collins 2023/24 Stats: 15.1 points, 8.5 rebounds, 1.1 assists 53.2% FG\37.1% 3P\79.5% FT Incoming salary: $26.6 million (Net increase 3.6 million), 3 years 2 + 1 player option Pick(s) available: 8th pick in 2024 draft (if owned after the 2024 lottery their pick does not drop to 10), 2025 Timberwolves/Cavaliers 1st Let me pull out a tin foil cap and offer you a theory: I think that the Ochai Agbaji/Kelly Olynyk trade started out as a potential John Collins/Bruce Brown swap to get the Mormon state's team to save a bit of money in the short-term & a lot of money in the long-term while simultaneously filling in a backcourt hole the trading of O.G. and Pascal opened up. Presumably, this began under the goal of getting that 2025 1st Masai and co. were aiming for but whatever the behind the scene specifics, that's not the trade we ended up with. Owed to Collins having a pretty lengthy contract and him fitting a position of need for the Raptors, albeit with a pretty large asterisk that we'll touch on in a moment, John fit the mold for the buy-low "distressed asset" player that Masai Ujiri has sought out such as the aforementioned RJ Barrett acquisition who has seen a paradigm shift in both production and player reputation since playing for the Raptors. I've talked about Collins before when his name kept cropping up in the 2023 trade rumors at the deadline, as well as when the Hawks were looking to trade for Pascal Siakam; at the time, John or fellow frequently rumored Hawks player De'Andre Hunter were seen as the main piece of salary. If you want a longer explanation then by all means go ahead and read it but the short version is that it was very easy to turn down a deal where Collins was the centerpiece for Pascal, even if John Collins is perfectly capable as an NBA forward. After being traded to the Jazz for pennies on the dollar and failing to rehab his overall value to be flipped by known fleecer Danny Ainge, Collins name has found his way back in the rumor mill with the Jazz trying to get rid of him, owed largely to their frustration with the former Hawks forward. In a vacuum, John Collins does fill the role of a stretch 4 or a small ball 5...sort of. The problem is that John Collins, while a decent player overall, is a positionally confusing one on defense. A great finisher and lob threat on offense, he isn't fast enough to guard most 3s and 4s on defense, and he lacks the size to be a full-time option for a small ball 5 a la the similarly short (Both are 6'9) Bam Adebayo. His shooting has rebounded from a career-low 29% in his final season with the Hawks (owed largely due to a finger injury that should not be viewed for the faint of heart) to more in line with his career average, Collins days with the Jazz have seen him boasting a 37% 3-point percentage on around 3 attempts per game. And yet, that optimistic turnaround doesn't extend to the season Collins had overall. Yes, he's staying close to his career averages for shooting, rebounding, etc. but that's despite greater opportunity being afforded to him. That is in of itself part of the problem; the Jazz are in a rebuild where, aside from Lauri Markkanen, no one on the team is guaranteed to be part of their future, and even Lauri has had rumors chasing him ever since January. The door is wide open for anyone to rise up and become a franchise piece, and there's plenty of young talent to give a run for. It's a prime environment for John Collins to showcase why he was once seen as a rising star like he did in Atlanta during games where Trae Young was out and yet...his tenure in Utah has only served to reinforce the notion that John Collins is who he is, and he's not going to improve much from where he is as a player right now. The player Collins is right now and will be for the duration of his current contract is not a bad one, but they are overpaid relative to their production; Collins is being paid roughly $25 million on average with a player option in the 3rd year of his contract so while he won't be the worst placeholder one could have for a big man, the amount of cap they do take up will require any team that takes on his money to carefully build around the margins under the new CBA. The other "trades don't exist in a vacuum" caveat with a Jollins/Brown swap is that...look, the Raptors want some form of draft capital, whether it's moving up in the draft, picking up a 2nd 1st later in the draft or, preferably, a 1st in the 2025 draft. The Jazz do have a pick in this draft but it may be a bit too far out of reach to jump up to via a simple salary dump. Going from 19 to the late lottery a la the above Bulls suggestion or the third team we'll talk about is a viable option if the Raptors are trading Brown to grant a team short or long-term salary relief/turning dead salary into a rotation player. The Mavericks did this very same thing last year when they dumped Davis Bertan contract on to the Thunder while still acquiring the player they originally wanted in Dereck Lively II. Granted, they only dropped from 10th to 12th but I digress. Going in to the middle of the lottery from 19 is a significantly higher jump to make. The Jazz do have an interesting 2nd coming their way via the Wizards and no shortage of future picks from the Timberwolves and the Cavaliers though how heavily protected one of them would be were the Jazz to part ways with said pick, and whether the Raptors would be willing to trade out of this draft's 1st round should they lose their own pick to the Spurs (roughly a 55% chance to occur) is up in the air. It is worth mentioning that if the Raptors keep their pick at 4 or 6 and expect the player we want to draft in that range to still be on the board by 8th, then perhaps an 6 + Brown for 8 + Collins + a future first from the Wolves/Cavs might be an option. Otherwise, it's hard to see the Raptors moving up in the first round for this draft via a trade with Utah. It should also be noted that there is a possibility the Jazz lose their pick to the Thunder, as it's 8th pre-lottery with a Top 10 protection. If it drops to 11 then it will convey to OKC. There's one other reason why a trade with Utah is less likely: Recency. Teams rarely make trades with the same partner in what is effectively the same season and the Jazz have done just that via the frequently mentioned Ochai/Olynyk trade.. Exceptions exist but the fact that the two already did so does make it much less likely that they'll be trade partners in the upcoming draft. Then again, sometimes trades that died in the offseason or deadline use the previously declined deal as a framework for a deal that does end up happening; the Lakers and Pelicans re-engaged trade talks after failing to acquire Anthony Davis in 2019. Lo and behold, New Orleans traded away the All-NBA big man for a haul and a half that the Lakers are still on the hook for - and they might still be if the Pelicans defer their owed Lakers pick to 2025. Speaking of teams with prior trade talks to Toronto... Atlanta Hawkshttps://preview.redd.it/t4ki5qlhkrzc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=e17febaa7a100d69c6155daacab6324b9e528b14Most likely player(s): De'Andre Hunter 2023/24 Stats: 15.6 points, 3.9 rebounds, 1.5 assists 45.9% FG\38.5% 3P\84.7% FT Incoming salary: $21.7 million (Net of -$1.3 million for the 1st year) Pick(s) available: 10th pick in 2024 draft, 2025 Kings 1st Entering a cap crunch with Okongwu's extension kicking in alongside Dejounte Murray, Atlanta is already poised to make some significant changes in the offseason, with De'Andre Hunter and his overall stagnation, in conjunction with Jalen Johnson's rise despite an overall poor season for the Hawks, being a major turning point for the franchise. I've talked about Hunter before when the Hawks were heavily rumored to be offering him and draft capital for Pascal Siakam. Not Kobe Bufkin, who was off-limits per the reports but I digress. If you want the long version of what was said about De'Andre then you can give it a read here. The short version? Hunter came in to the 2023/24 season with the reputation of being an average starter on an okay, albeit slightly overpaid given current production, contract and thus he seemed like potential insurance in the off-chance O.G. Anunoby left or someone to flip to another team. Lo and behold, the Raptors eliminated that possibility of him walking by trading O.G. in the thus far Quickley/Barrett 1-2 punch knockout of a trade, leaving the team with newfound optimism - and a massive hole in their wing/forward rotation so Hunter seems like a perfect buy-low candidate, right? Well, let's talk about how bad of a season Hunter had and why he left the 2023/24 season with the reputation of having the worst contract on the Hawks roster. Whatever else you can say about Collins, he's off the books in 2026, 2025 if he declines his player option. Hunter is there until 2027 with no chances of an inflated ego causing him to enter early in to free agency. To start, part of the reason that the reception for Hunter's extension was so mixed was a lack of progress on either end of the floor since the 2022 playoff series between the Hawks and the Heat that earned him so significant a payday. In it, De'Andre flashed signs of the two-way wing he could be; he shot 46% on 5 3s a game and played solid defense throughout the 5 game series. The Kawhi comparisons were overblown but reaching the level of, say, a Mikal Bridges where they're a solid connecting piece who can start on a playoff team seemed like a viable outcome. https://preview.redd.it/2yoju8djkrzc1.png?width=1580&format=png&auto=webp&s=17c826cf2678dde05d30a7a7af13dce3c79cc292 This version of Hunter has not appeared since. How much one wants to blame injury on his lack of progress - he's missed a lot of games due to various injuries - the fact of the matter is his limited offensive game hasn't developed whatsoever, his defensive effort lacks consistency and worst of all, his 2023 offseason revealed that he "hadn't worked on anything". Admittedly that last one was him trying to joke but it was a joke that reflected the altogether underwhelming tenure that was their latest season where, yet again, Hunter failed to show any signs of improvement while the far less experienced Jalen Johnson flourished. He's the Deandre Ayton of wings; a physically gifted player physically but with a low motor to improve their game or in general play with a consistent level of energy. A change of scenery can do wonders for a player but unlike the aforementioned Ayton, Hunter's ceiling is significantly lower and with an extra year on his contract that makes them similarly expensive for a pseudo starter like Hunter. Whereas Lonzo is more or less filler to make the deal work and John Collins is an actual NBA player on a bad deal, Hunter is decidedly more frustrating. They're a positional fit on paper but in execution, they're a quietly poor contract for a player that has disappointed year after year. It's no exaggeration to say that De'Andre's mundane performance since his extension is a notable reason why the Hawks have struggled in recent years. Speaking of Atlanta, the Hawks are in an odd position regarding salary relief, for two reasons. One is that their own pick, currently 10th in the draft, might be more valued internally by the Hawks than an opportunity to rid themselves of Hunter's albatross of a contract, as this will be the last first round pick they stand to control for several years due to the disastrous Dejounte trade. While there isn't an obvious player in their range to fix their many roster issues, young talent for a team that may be contemplating trading Trae Young is young talent to keep around in this hypothetical rebuild around Jalen Johnson. So yeah, the Hawks might not be planning to move their pick on draft night. Atlanta does have a very early 2nd from the Blazers (34th overall) and a protected pick from the Kings that has since been deferred to 2025. The protections on said pick have gone from lottery protected to Top 12 (Top 10 if it doesn't convey in 2025) so it's not as though there isn't an opportunity to acquire future draft capital and that second could make for an interesting option to trade out in to the 2nd round of next year's trade as Toronto lacks any picks for the 2025 draft if their own defers. Depending on what Sacramento does - or doesn't do - and with the West being the bloodbath it was this season, it might be preferable to bet against Sacramento for reasons we'll cover in Part 2 (Spoilers: It'll be framed around Huerter who's been terrible ever since the Kings playoff appearance) though by that same logic, the Hawks may prefer holding on to that first-rounder due its potential value in the 2025 draft though how much better next year's draft will be outside of the top-end talent is too early to say. The other factor is that while they are an over-the-tax team looking at the luxury tax in the 2025 season with Jalen Johnson breaking out at just the right time to demand a hefty extension, Atlanta has a massive trade exception from the John Collins trade that they can also use to take on a bad contract or potentially make use of the Kings 2025 1st they own to bring in more help around Young and whomever they trade Murray for in the scenario where they try to build around Trae instead of kicking off a rebuild. Will they do that? It's hard to say. Unlike the Bulls who should be rebuilding but are likely running it back after they find LaVine a new team, the Hawks aren't in a position to rebuild due to the Spurs having their picks/pick control for the next few years so they aren't incentivized to be a bad team. Most of the time, trade exceptions don't get used (See: The massive trade exception the Raptors generated for sign and trading Chris Bosh) so it wouldn't be a surprise if that same thing happens to the Collins expectation. On the other hand, it's equally difficult to see them getting a player good enough to lift them out of the ditch they're stuck in - for those wondering Bruce Brown's exception does fit in neatly for said exception and a HunteBrown trade would create a new trade exception for Atlanta - and thus avenues for trading what few assets Atlanta may be willing to part with become a lot less appealing. That getting rid of Hunter's contract by moving down a few spots in the lottery is seen as a positive outcome for their draft day moves should speak volumes about how unenviable a position the Hawks are in. Little room for internal improvement and even less options to retool their roster, low optimism due to a potential cap crunch and no pick control until 2028. But hey, it was worth keeping Kobe Bufkin over trading him for Siakam, right Atlanta? ConclusionFor those that want a TL;DR for the first 3 teams, see the below chart:
That's all for now. Until next time, game on my friends. |
2024.05.11 21:28 sdey14 Just mine and mine forever Kanna.
www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/118050766 submitted by sdey14 to SenseisKitchen [link] [comments] It has been two weeks since I asked her out. I was spacing out and not thinking about much when I suddenly asked Kanna a blunt question. "Everyone calls you the feral hound, but in my opinion, you are actually quite sweet... If only I had someone like you..." When I looked over I found Kanna was beet red in the face. I realised what I had said but before I could say anything she shyly replied, "T-The idea of a teacher and a student having a r-romantic relationship is not a crime in Kivotos... or so I have h-heard. You d-dont have to wish for something like that if I am w-with you." That was perhaps the first time I had seen her so flustered, her cheeks, bright red. Usually she kept quite a serious, calm and composed demeanor but today it was a lot different. I always imagined her to be the dominant type. I mean, the title of 'feral hound' was something only the most ferocious of police officers received. She certainly was quite skillful at interrogation. And that was it. I guess there was no going back. Now that I think about it, it was a really awkward way to ask out someone. I might have played it as a joke but I was too enthralled by her shy, yet bold reply. And so I asked her to be my girlfriend. Its too late now to back off. Both she and I have been so busy with work that we have not been able to spend much time together. We might have only exchanged a few calls but that was it. No lovey-dovey talk, no playful dates, no such things. Well, she did give me a spare key to her house though which was quite a bold move, but I am not going to lie, her dominant persona awakens certain feelings in me... And that brings us to the present day. I have already completed my work at Schale early and asked Rin-chan, if could go home early for today. I wanted to surprise Kanna with something. So I decided to head to her home and cook something for her. After all, everyone yearns for a home cooked meal after a long day at work. I opened the door and went in. It was my first time inside a girl's room. It was not quite what I was expecting. Her work is usually flawless but her house was, by no means, tidy. "Well... she might not have wanted me to see that..." I took a deep breath "what can be done now? I should help tidy it up a bit" She actually comes back quite late from the Public Peace Bureau, and I would be surprised if she had anymore energy left to do all the household chores after all that. She already overclocks her body on dubious amounts of coffee. It would not be good for her to exert herself anymore. She is so young yet such a responsible girl... Thinking about various things I clean up her room and entered the kitchen to make her something. While watching the water boil I suddenly had a realisation, "What's with this scenario? It's like I'm a househusband waiting for my wife to arrive... So this is what a married life feels like?..." It was quite a strange feeling to be honest. I never understood the entire prospect of love and marriage, the lack of it was quite evident throughout my life and I never bonded strongly with many people my entire childhood. I might be delusional but at this moment, I feel myself as the happiest person in this world. It was at this moment I heard the door lock clicking. Kanna is already here. I poke my head out of the kitchen and said "Welcome home Kanna." She was started to see me here "Wha-huh? S-sensei? Wha... Why are you here?" "To give you a surprise silly" "A surprise?" "I mean, you are always so busy with your work. You don't even get the chance to properly have your meals. So I decided to help you today by cooking you a meal full of love!" Although she tried to hide her ears twitching, it was quite evident that she was very happy. "Oh and I also cleaned your ro-" I realised I should not have said that. She walked up to me and firmly placed a finger on my lips and said, "You never saw any of that." "Y-yeah..." Apart from the topic of me cleaning her 'not-untidy-at-all' room, we talked quite a lot about various things. Throughout our conversation, I could not help but notice her smile across her face, as constant as the pole star. I have never seen her like talk like this before. I wished this moment would last forever. Just her and me, talking to each other. If I am ever faced with the choice to repeat a day for the rest of eternity, I would choose this day, for I have absolutely fallen head-over-heels for her. It is now that I notice the time... Well it was my fault for noticing it sooner. Its 10.51 p.m. already. The last train leaves at 11 p.m. and no matter how hard I try, there was no way I was catching that train. I am in a real pinch now. Asking her to stay the night with her. But her room is really small. She and me? In one bed? Okay... now this is not good. I am getting nothing but impure thoughts. Kanna seems to have been thinking the same thing as me. However she actually asks me this time. "Well Sensei, it's quite late now. Even if you tried to catch the train, I don't think you'd make it. So...", She turns a bit fidgety, "why don't you stay the night with me?" She asks with a smile. My mind goes completely blank. And without much thought I let out the words "But I don't have any protection on me..." "..." "..." A moment of silence ensues. We both take a moment to process what was said. "Nh! B-baka w-what are you saying?" "I solemnly apologise for my words miss Ogata Kanna", I was quick to follow it up with an apology. ‘Come on dude what the hell... she definitely did not mean that when she asked you to stay’, I thought to myself. I am have totally messed up everything. But just as every storm runs out of rain and every dark night turns into day, she was sitting there, her gaze not meeting mine, embarrassed yet shyly making an offer I could never refuse. “I knew it would come to this eventually. I am… uh… how do I say this…”, she pauses briefly for a second, “To tell you the truth I am not quite experienced with these things, if possible, I would like you to teach me sensei.” This was it. Then something just snapped inside me. Some hidden feeling, some hidden emotion, which I did not even know, I had. How could any sane person say no to such an offer. In fact, I were to be made such an offer in exchange of manually counting every number up to the Avogadro’s number in tally marks, I would do it. Or perhaps it was fate that led me to this fateful event. It was perhaps the will of the almighty lord that this would happen to me. But I did not care anymore for such things. For there she was, Miss Ogata Kanna, sitting, with all her magnificence, her beauty unrivalled by heaven itself. “As for that…”, She intervenes my monologue, “Today is actually a safe day for me. So you won't have to worry about wearing any protection” This. This was the moment the five red lights went out, and I might have had broken the fastest reaction time world record if I were in a motor race by now. Rather than the ear shattering roar of V8 engines, it was a light, muffled moan. I pounced upon her, just as a wolf pounces upon an innocent and unsuspecting lamb. She might have been the hound, but now, I was the predator and she was the prey. It was quite odd seeing her suddenly submit to my advances, but it was something I didn’t mind at all. I started undressing her, opening up the buttons of her short holding her soft yet massive breasts. And just as a coffin in buried in the ground, I buried my face within the two mounds of heaven. My fingers started to explore her whole body. I licked down her entire body. At that moment, I was nothing less of a dog. I licked down her toned abdomen muscles down to her navel and then reached her thighs. If she was to bite me, she could have really torn of my arm for that is how sharp a hound’s teeth are, but right now my teeth were no less sharp than a blamite shard and it certainly did not take me long to tear through her black tights. I now bore witness to her bare thighs. It certainly was charming. There was an elegant yet erotic aura around her. I certainly could not wrap my head around the entire thing but there was nothing that could stop me now. Even if a galactic scale superweapon were to be fired against me and me alone I would just tank it like an insignificant drop of rain and not even be inconvenienced in the slightest, for that was how hypnotised, I was, by the beauty of her bare body. “D-don’t just stare at my blankly… its e-embarrassing”, her voice brings me back into this world. I regain my senses and just continue to lick her. “Sclurp… slurp… shlip…”, the room was filled with such lewd sounds and her soft moans. At this very moment, if there was a place better than heaven, it would be this room. She gets up, still shaking from her climax, and replies with her euphonious voice, “Its not fair, only I feel so good… You should let me take care of you as well” And so, she wraps her tongue all around my Binah, which might have towered even the Sanctum Tower if I were to view it side by side. “Hff…haw ish ifth shemshei” She asks in a muffled voice. I could have answered if I were thinking with my actual head. But now I realised her true potential. Why do I admire her so much. She just has this natural, inborn talent like no other. Her versatility, her ability to adapt to new things, her quick learning skills like no other just complements her skills and charms by a massive margin. I could only ever wish to be half the person she is. While I was lost in deep contemplation I felt pleasure, a great pleasure, pleasure like no other. I might have not had any alcohol, but I certainly was drunk on her sweet love nectar. Still tipsy from the feeling of climaxing, I just pushed her onto her bed and climbed atop her. “Kanna, would you let me-” “Yes Sensei, please be teach me everything you know... I wish to know it all” I could not contain my lust any longer and I plunged myself deep inside her. The air was suffused with the sound of our love. I was now the mythical sword Excalibur, they who would be able to lift me out shall be crowned the next ruler of Birmingham. For the next few hours, I truly came to know a few truths about the wild. Just as an alligator twists and turns its prey before biting down upon it with tremendous force, I continued ‘plapping’ her in a couple of dozen positions, doing my best as the teacher I am in educating my dear student in the various arts of lovemaking. “Plap Plap Plap” I ravaged her until who knows how long but It certainly was something I would never forget. I believe she must’ve had the same feelings for me. Rays of sunlight lit the room now, I did not care to look at the clock for I knew I would have a snowball’s chance in hell of reaching Schale today on time. “Well. I don’t care anyway. I will tell Rin something like I sprained my ankle or some shit… For now I would love to spend some more time with her.” I saw Kanna sleeping soundly by my side. She must have been quite exhausted after what we did yesterday. I got up and poked her cheek with my finger and murmured “I truly admire you Kanna, I just wish you were just mine and mine forever…” My murmurs were interrupted by a pair of open eyes and a sweet giggle. “Huh?...You were awake this whole time?” Kanna just smiled and replied “If you admire me and love me so much, why don’t you make me yours forever?” ~THE END~ (Preparation time=11 hours. Ingredients: People who do not have the same opinion as me and a few years off my lifespan) Thank you to all the talented chefs here for inspiring me to cook. This is My manifesto, My Propaganda and my argument to all who still aren't convinced of Kanna's true beauty... "I love you Kanna..." |
2024.05.11 04:42 Xgatt Discussion: What improvements does this roster need to get back into contention?
2024.05.10 16:00 ddgr815 Hudson’s deal, RenCen renew debate about corporate subsidies in Detroit Bridge Michigan
Incentives designed to create jobs and tax revenue have become increasingly controversial in Detroit as blockbuster developments fail to materialize or live up to their promised economic impact. submitted by ddgr815 to Detroit [link] [comments] The likely struggle of the Hudson’s Detroit project to meet projected Detroit jobs and revenue is the latest large-scale project fueling the debate over the structure of tax-incentivized development. There have long been concerns about “reshuffling jobs” among buildings in Detroit. The Hudson’s project will call for shuffling hundreds of jobs from one office tower to another as General Motors Co., brings staffers to the Bedrock-owned tower from the Renaissance Center. A $60 million incentive for the project was approved in 2022. A BridgeDetroit analysis last month showed how Hudson’s Detroit will likely fall short on its job and tax revenue creation promises, which critics say is emblematic of the problems with taxpayer giveaways that provide more benefits to developers and their investors than neighborhood residents. “A lot of these projects skate by and move through critiqued and unchallenged … so a lot of Detroiters think they bring the benefits that are promised,” said Theo Pride, who is among a core of city residents vocally opposing the incentives. “But we know a lot of the promises don’t come to fruition and this is an indictment of the whole structure of tax-incentivized development.” Some charge Bedrock and city officials with misleading residents, highlighting the need for more scrutiny and transparency up front, Pride said. Bedrock, Detroit Economic Growth Corporation officials and most of the Detroit City Council members who voted in favor of the Hudson’s incentive did not respond to requests for comment, but a spokesperson for Mayor Mike Duggan said the city’s high level of incentives have on balance been a winner for the city. Gilbert’s Bedrock promised 2,000 new jobs and $71 million in new tax revenue in its controversial bid for the incentive. General Motors’ move from the Renaissance Center to Hudson’s Detroit will affect an estimated 850 positions. Moving those positions between buildings in the city does not create new jobs or new economic impact as the positions already exist and contribute to local tax rolls. Hudson’s Detroit is only one development drawing concerns. The Ilitch family failed to deliver on new neighborhoods and entertainment districts it promised would sprout around Little Caesars Arena in “District Detroit,” and as a second phase of the project struggles to get started. All told, taxpayers would cover about $1.8 billion, or 64%, of District Detroit’s cost, if it is built out. The Ilitch’s Olympia Development did not respond to a request for comment. Meanwhile, the Hudson project and three other downtown Gilbert projects received $618 million in state “Transformational Brownfield” incentives, plus local subsidies. The projects are heavy on office space and were projected to create about 7,300 new jobs, but may not be delivering. Gilbert finished the mammoth Book Tower renovation, and the much smaller One Campus Martius renovation, but the company and officials have not said how many jobs at either site are new to the city. The Monroe Block project is stalled, and filling the Hudson building with employees already working in Detroit at the Renaissance Center, which will empty its offices, is not what was promised, said Michael LaFaive, an analyst with the Mackinac Policy Center, which tracks corporate subsidies. “It was sold as a ‘transformational’ project but we were never told that the transformation would only include moving a few jobs down the street,” he said. He noted academic research that casts doubt on the type of incentives and calculations Detroit uses. “The scholarship on this is decades old and there are hundreds and hundreds of studies that look at various economic development programs at the state and local level, and they have shown zero to negative impacts repeatedly,” LaFaive said. The questionable economic returns on subsidized office space are not unique to Detroit. Developers for New York City’s Hudson Yards project promised it would generate 55,000 jobs and $500 million in tax revenue in exchange for $2.1 billion in incentives. A peer-reviewed study found its economic impact was much lower because 90% of the jobs moved from elsewhere in Manhattan to Hudson Yards. Hudson Yards’ developer is Stephen Ross, whose development company, Related Cos., in 2022 received a $100 million payment from Michigan state lawmakers for a University of Michigan office building and school in District Detroit. Though Hudson Yards’ supporters maintain it is a success, some officials concede it is much less so when already existing jobs are factored in. The only Detroit council member who supported the 2022 incentive deal for Hudson’s Detroit to return BridgeDetroit requests for comment was Mary Waters. She said the city got “played by a corporate shell game” and she is now turning her attention to what happens to the Renaissance Center. The building is “iconic” and should be redeveloped, she said, but Waters is concerned that GM may ask for incentives, and she plans to ask the council’s Legislative Policy Division to look into the issue. “We need to know in advance what’s going to happen with that site, and we need the very best deal for Detroiters,” Waters said. Duggan spokesperson Roach pointed to city figures showing Detroit has added 25,000 jobs since 2014, providing $153 million in new income tax revenue. The revenue has been used to fund park repairs, policing, ambulance services and “a whole host of other improvements that can be seen and felt by Detroiters across the city,” Roach said “The city’s economic strategy is having a direct and positive impact on most Detroiters,” he added. But the city’s argument rests on an often untrue assumption – the development would not have happened without the tax incentives, said Jacob Whiton, an with Good Jobs First and a former Detroit Economic Growth Corporation official who worked on tax incentives for Detroit. That assumes the choice “is binary – either the development happens or doesn’t,” Whiton added. The Hudson was half built by the time Bedrock came back for more incentives, so Gilbert would not have abandoned it, but it would likely have been more “modest,” he said. There is also a “gold plating effect” in which developers know they can get an incentive so they create plans that include amenities or a size that is not necessary, Whiton said. “There may very well have been a profitable way to redevelop the Hudson site without this extent of public financial support – it just might not have been as tall or had as many hotel rooms,” Whiton said. “If we collected the tax revenue on that more modest project, then reinvested the money we saved, would the net economic impact have been greater?” The city could also use incentives for smaller projects throughout the city. The Detroit People’s Food Co-op, a newly opened Black-led cooperative grocery store in the North End, received some incentives. Such projects serve a community function and are much more effective at spreading wealth among city residents instead of developers, Pride said. That is especially true as office buildings’ economic value plummets post-COVID, he added, and said the city “should use the opportunity to pivot.” “Grandiose projects like Hudson’s are not profitable for cities anymore so we need to be thinking about what other type of development we can be doing, and we should get creative and think about racial and economic equity in serious ways,” Pride said. Edythe Ford, a community organizer who also opposed the plan, said the city needs ordinances that require more equitable development instead of house flipping. Ford, who is also a member of Detroit’s Reparations Task Force, said the money could be used to provide easy access to grants for low-income home repairs, for example. “We need equitable development – everything can’t go to the areas that already got it going on,” she said. Ford said residents also need more people to be more active with the issue and vote. “Citizens need to organize more and I don’t want to hear hollering about the mayor if you keep voting him in,” she said. “If we don’t start holding them accountable we’re going to keep hearing the same story.” |
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