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2020.05.02 10:19 Davess_World2019 What is "Industry Standard" for Hagwons?
For those who don't know, this is a break down of what you can expect from a typical job at a Hagwon. They are not in the education business, they are in the money-making business. submitted by Davess_World2019 to HagwonBlacklistKorea [link] [comments] 🚩 Your Rank is Below the Students: Yes. For a hierarchical society based on age, experience, and success, it's ironic that your age and experience is below the elementary school students you teach. You are replaceable, the students, not so much. If you discipline them, they get revenge on you the same circuitous route you probably tried as a student: you exaggerate to your parents, they get inflamed and call the school, the ownemanager automatically blames you, the students TEACH YOU who is in charge. There is no benefit of the doubt for you, and no support either. The money is angry, so you need to change your ways. Your rank is below them. That's industry standard. 🚩 You Will Learn to Despise Teaching Kids: "I love kids, I want to help them learn!" Well, you're in the wrong business. You're thinking about the YMCA, or Boy/Girl Scouts or something. After some time, you will become jaded teaching brats who constantly talk over you, ignore your requests to be quiet, you are blamed if they don't do their homework. Teaching without discipline is not education, it's crowd control, bribing, and survival. If the students know there are no consequences from their teacher, parents, or administration, it's Lord of the Flies every day in class. That's industry standard, and only so much you can take before you challenge the company to determine what is more important: disciplining the worst students with actual consequences that improve the classroom environment, education, quality of life, or letting the kids steamroll the foreigner, but they are happy and paying their money. Guess what? Paying the money matters far more. If you need to be a clown, play games all day and give the appearance of education to the parents, fine. Don't anger the students, and don't insist on any discipline or educational standards from the staff, they probably don't have or want any. You'll witness a disturbing amount of students that are not only trouble-makers, but are solid "F"-quality students. They are some combination of, uninterested students attending by force from their parents, and/or dumb as rocks. Why are they allowed to attend if they just come to harass the teacher, take away precious learning time from students who want to be there, and are wasting their parents' money by not learning a darn thing? Why not just replace them with some other student waiting to get in? --Money. As long as they are a paying customer, the students can come and jump on the tables all day, they could care a less. Then when grades and comments are due at the end of the semester, you give them what they deserve, a full accounting of their behavior and a solid "F" grade. Guess what? The manager will pull you aside, "Um, we don't really give "F"s here, and your comments are too, um, honest, so could you go back and change both to something a little more respectable for the parents? Maybe like a "D" or "C-" and just not write anything bad about their behavior? Thanks." So are students ever accountable? No, never. 🚩 The Golden Rule: Those that have the gold, make the rules. Tiger moms virtually decide everything in a Hagwon. They snoop around, look through the windows, watch CCTV camera from home, find some nitpicky fault to report like the Gestapo, some, believe it or not, are allowed to sit in the back of classrooms. My lord, Education 101: Too many chefs spoil the broth. Parents and administrators clogging up the kitchen spoils the broth. There is room for one teacher, occasional observation, but otherwise, stay out of the classrooms, you're not helping! If you want total control, pull your kids out and teach them at home. They almost always create their own "Tiger Mom Congress", in which they hang out with all the other moms, gossip, compare notes, and make decisions for the school. If they don't like a foreign teacher, they gather flimsy evidence, take a vote, and ask the school to fire that person, and they usually do. If they don't, they threaten to trash the school, and pull their kids out, depriving them of money, and then that owner has to go be at the bottom of the totem pole somewhere else. That's Ok, there are plenty of 🚩 Non-Standard Hours: Since elementary schools get out at or around 12:30-1:30 every day, the Hagwons will start classes around 2PM-10PM, but not all. If they have a website, you'll see at the bottom or somewhere "Hagwon" (학원). 🚩 Long Hours: Your 2PM-10PM, 8 hour day is not. Add roughly 1 hour earlier for arrival, meetings, and prep time, and about 2 hours of homework correcting, data-inputting, evaluations etc, whether it's on the job site, or you haul it home. So your day is really 1PM-11PM. But it even goes beyond that. When you consider weekend work whether it's more homework correcting, workshops, meetings, training, level testing, or the dreaded phone interviews with a huge list of uninterested students, add that to your daily average. If you are lucky, you'll have less than 12 hours of work to do per day, that is, if you don't wake up early, around 9AM to get the last of the homework corrected. 🚩 Low Pay: No one should take any job in Korea for less than 2.3 Million won / month, period. In 2009, most people were in the 2.1-2.3 Million won range. It's 11 years later and now they are making the same or in many cases less. I've seen the trend of jobs dropping down to 2.1 Million. When they give you the high-low range, never settle for the low end, and typically they make the requirements to earn the high end so ridiculous, who would, with high qualifications, take a pay cut to work in Korea in the first place? You won't get the high end, it's just bait, and no chance you'll ever really get it. Ask what kind of person would qualify for the top-end pay, and chances are, they probably don't know since no one is really meant to earn it anyway. When you refuse to accept the lowest pay option, it helps all the foreigners behind you. They will learn it is unacceptable, but they always hold out hope some desperate fool will take it. Factor in all your hours, including after work and weekends, the poor exchange rate, and chances are, you are just barely making minimum wage, even without factoring in the percentage they will steal from you. Overall, it's just not worth it to work in Korea for all the hours you put in, and how much you actually get in return. This is why I see nothing wrong with E2 Visa holders doing private lessons for side money. Yes it's "illegal" but so is stealing your salary, why not exploit the system and make bank on your weekends? $35-$50/hr really helps out. 🚩 They Will Steal Your Money: "Beer Money" It's not about education, it's a business, and stealing from the foreigners --business is good. Your Visa fees, utility deposit, severance (1 month bonus pay) pension, salary, overtime, "administration fees" (whatever that is), damage to the apartment, flight tickets, cleaning the apartment fee, health insurance, and if you quit, reimbursement (illegal) for recruiter fees, are ALL ON THE TABLE. With all those options, they have 10 different lies and excuses to extract them from you, and then stare you down if you dare challenge them as they also hold everything against you including your Letter of Release (to work somewhere else) and your recommendation. It's like an armed mugging that gives you two "choices": let them run off with your wallet, or kill you and run off with your wallet. Every time they nickle and dime you out of your salary, they use that for the group dinner and beer get-togethers that happens on the last Friday of every month "paid for" by the owner, which is paid for with your stolen funds. See? Aren't they generous? Why does Korean culture widely allow this? It's because of the "Hermit Kingdom's" 5000 years of eschewing foreigners. Koreans generally don't like any of their international neighbors. If you paid attention, anything a foreigner does winds up as being front page news, they blow it up and exploit the situation. They also don't like the fact that foreigners remit billions of won back to their home countries every year. I've seen this complaint scores of times in the media. EVERY country that has a foreigner working class has money remitted back home, they don't leave it at the airport! So, to recoup that money, Koreans are allowed to steal some of it back for the Korean economy, and only when Hagwons are caught is it grudgingly given back. This is why Koreans don't like to buy Japanese (or any other country's products) because that money goes out of the country, and doesn't come back in. They will steal your money any which way they can, and their fellow countrymen will just think this is doing good for the country as a whole. Why shouldn't those Westerners give us the money? It's our turn now, we were a poor 3rd world, then 2nd world country, it's our day in the sun! 🚩 Western Laws and Rules of Behavior Don't Apply: Yes, racial / sexual / gender / age harassment is illegal, but who is going to enforce it? Are the Koreans going to testify and back you up in court if it comes to that after a 2-3 year wait on the docket? Absolutely not. "Racial Stickiness" is primarily to blame, and they won't side with a foreigner over a native-born Korean for any reason. Be careful of this. If a Korean co-worker agrees your boss is a tyrant and breaking the law, they will stick up for the Korean when push comes to shove, and not side with the foreigner. The courts are the same way, they will always try to give the benefit to the Korean. You are not living under Western rules that would severely punish anyone trying to cheat and exploit a racial minority. You are in Korea now, they don't have that kind of social consciousness. There are lots of employment laws, but are the Hagwon owners afraid of lawyers, courts, and fines? Not even close. The slap-on-the-wrist that MAY occur if the foreigner figures out how to do it, means nothing in the long term. They will never be shut down or have their Hagwon license revoked by the local Chamber of Commerce, they are in no danger of any actual punishment. Their rationale is, "Whoops, I got caught, I'll try not to get caught next time." 🚩 You Are Not Hourly, You Are Salaried: Well, the advertisement certainly LOOKS hourly. They list the classroom HOURS, and the overtime pay.....PER HOUR (which indicates hourly wage earner), so it's an hourly wage, not salaried right? Wrong. Here's the trick: You know all that work you have to do outside of your normal classroom hours? Yes, they expect you to be available, on-call, and compliant during those times to do whatever they want you to do, "unpaid" but they considered it all paid. "But I'm not getting paid for it!" Yes, you are, all of that time is considered part of your monthly salary. Of course the contract says, "You will work 1PM-10PM, "x" number of classes for 2.2 Million won per month," BUT ALSO, they include vague language that says they can make you do whatever they want you to do, "And follow any and all orders by the director" --yep, "any and all" means 1000 other tasks that they dream up for you to do. So the foreigner assumes "x" amount of classroom work for "y" amount of salary, and a "reasonable" amount of homework correcting and regular teaching duties, but when they dump a whole bunch extra, the foreigners start to complain, but that's how Hagwons zing you. There is the advertised 1st job, that is the classroom teaching responsibility, and your 2nd job which is all the extras. They eat up your free time at both ends, and that's why the same places are always looking for fresh meat, because foreigners either made it a year and were so burned out they didn't re-contract, or burned out before that and just went home. That's why Dave's ESL Cafe is just rotating sewage of Chungdahm, Avalon, POLY, and a the usual suspects you can check out here. 🚩 Tons of Busy Work: I don't know what it is, but Koreans just hate seeing people not working. For one Hagwon, we arrived at about 1:15, started at 2PM, had a 30 minute dinner break around 6PM, and one open teaching block per person, per day. Guess what? They filled up 100% of that time with busy work. Before work, we had meetings, which ate up our prep time, then were tasked with student interviews during our dinner times (and weekends) and during our scheduled non-teaching gap, they invented a sort of study hall for students to catch up on their work, and the foreigners had to sit and help or monitor them. We eventually told them, "Students that don't do their homework is THEIR problem, and their parents, not ours. Why should we be punished every day because lazy students didn't feel like doing their work?" What's the incentive to do their work? They'll just finish it in study hall and get their hand held all the way through it. Why pay attention in class? So basically from 1:15PM-10:30PM, we were constantly busy doing something. Some people bolted out the door at dinner time, as to not be caught and assigned a task, then they came up with new rules, "No leaving campus during the work day." Our meetings usually kicked off at 1:30PM, and teachers would hang around outside until that time, and smoke or get some coffee so as to not have to be bothered with some silly task, then another rule, "After getting off the shuttle bus, you must immediately come inside or be fined as being "late.'" -even though we were right outside the door and actually 15 minutes early. Our one unassigned class, teachers would sit in the teacher's room, listen to their music, kick back a little bit, "No music during work hours!" It's like a Chinese sweatshop; work 100 miles an hour at all times, someone always looking over your shoulder. 🚩 "Korean Surprise": Ask any foreigner who has worked in Korea to explain this utterly contemptuous cultural phenomenon for you. The best way to describe it is just simply disrespectful 11th hour procrastination but also seasoned with incompetence, however it also could be that the staff knew about an event or change, and decided to keep you out of the loop until the last minute. Additionally, it's like "Ground Hog's Day" that often repeats as if the Hagwon just opened its doors last week even though it has been open for years and failed to remember how it handled the exact same situation the previous years. It's a last minute change to everything that can possibly be altered: your schedule, a company dinner-meeting, a Saturday training session, you name it, you won't know about it until the last possible minute and of course, you won't have time to adjust to it and the Hagwon will side-eye stare at you wondering why you are not flexible enough to handle it like all the other Koreans do who mad-scramble to throw something together. Case in Point: At one really crappy job, I was the only foreigner. There were about 15 other Koreans, and we were on a bus going to our end-of-the-month Friday dinner after work. However, on the bus, about 30 minutes into it, they handed out a paper itinerary. Day 1, Day 2 etc. Um, what? What do you mean, "Day 2?" So here I am in my shiny dress shoes, dress pants, collared shirt, no jacket, no toothbrush, no nothing, just me, while all the other Koreans had backpacks filled with toiletries, change of shoes etc. So basically, I walked in a flower park, then hiked up a mountain to get a group photo, and also went on a raft about a mile down a river, then the next day we toured a museum, all in my smelly uncomfortable work clothes. Our group leader LOUDLY yelled at one of the staff members, in front of everyone as to why I wasn't informed about a TWO DAY trip, and embarrassed me etc. I just let the whole thing unfold without saying a word, see if anyone had the decency to notice. I could have had them stop the bus still on the subway line and taken it back home before we got too far into it. Turns out, they knew about the trip 2 weeks prior, and not a single person told me about it until I was on the bus. "Surprise!" If you've ever seen the Movie "Office Space" in which Peter Gibbons is trying to escape the office before his boss, Bill Lumbergh, can surprise him with working on Saturday and Sunday, you'll come to understand that basically every day working at a Hagwon is like this. Especially on Thursday or Friday, some manager will come in and start with, "Oh by the way...." --AW CRAP! Here it comes... This is why I tell foreigners to not blink an eye about quitting and not giving notice. Koreans rarely give proper notice for anything, and seem to enjoy the adrenaline rush of time-altered stress, so quitting without notice is doing them a favor in my opinion. And since they generally seem to have the memory of a goldfish, I'm more than sure 5 minutes after you're gone, they have forgotten all about you. The only thing that is of concern, is how every event effects THEM, and could care a less if you are put-out by it or not. 🚩 Weekend / Holiday Work: "Occasionally, sometimes, once-in-a-while, may, maybe" = WILL. Expect to work as many weekends as they want you to, hard to predict the number, but more than likely you will. They will also double-count a federal holiday (red number on the calendar) as part of your 10 vacation days. 🚩 Events: It could be a play, open house, meet & greet, Christmas show, picnics, movies, English contest, escorting kids to a park or water slide. You'll do this on the weekends as well, and plan for the entire thing "in your free time" of which you have none. The other nice thing, but turns into a not-so-nice thing is company dinners. It seems like a generous offer, but they screw this up by informing you on a Friday, just hours before you leave work. Westerners make plans on Wednesday for Friday and weekend events. Koreans are very 11th hour, and it irritates foreigners. Additionally, dinners are just gossip-aggregating events for the Korean women. They get the foreigners a little bit drunk, then mine them for juicy personal gossip about everything, then giggle and share it with each other. I always hated these dinners because I knew it was a social trap. 🚩 Poor Training / Poor Management: Did you look at THEIR college diploma, certification, and prior job experience before joining up with them? Probably not. What qualifications do they have to run a business and tell you how to teach English? None. Unfortunately, all too often, a Hagwon owner doesn't even speak English at all, or is very poor at it, and their Korean staff makes a ton of mistakes. Virtually none of them have a degree in education or English, have no teaching license, and many didn't even go to college at all. They have no training in technique, lesson planning, understanding of teaching concepts such as timing, assessment, development of proper materials for the proper age and skill levels. They are extremely poor at inter-office communication and problem-solving, and have no practical understanding of Western values regarding them. Their main course of action is finding problems that really don't exist, then getting angry until you fix them. 🚩 You Will Have to Contribute More Curriculum: So they have been using the same book for 5 years, but you still have to add a worksheet, word find, crossword puzzle, video, game, test, quizzes, or something to the curriculum? They saved nothing from the previous teachers the last 5 years, so you can't re-use anything. But that's Ok, you have plenty of free time between classes, lunch, and after work to think of something. 🚩 The Contract is a Total Lie: Whatever is in the contract, you must do, whatever is not in the contract, you must also do. If you look at it, it's the most one-sided, no-risk-for-the-Hagwon contract you'll ever see in your life. It's certainly not an egalitarian Western contract that respects worker's rights. All the vague wording is explained to you in detail once you are in the country, totally under their control, and can't easily argue or leave and go back home. "Events" suddenly means every other Saturday, and you agreed to it, it's in the contract. Did they bother to explain that detail during any step of the hiring process which they could have? No. If they were comprehensive, neither you, nor anyone else would take the job, who would? They are all direct lies, or lies by omission. 🚩 Speaking to a Current Native English Teacher Does Nothing for You. So, if you've looked around, you've probably seen it a couple of dozen times to be sure to contact a Native English Teacher (NET) who is currently working at your prospective place of employment? That is just just some of the stupidest advice out there. Don't you think these professional festival carnies have out-thought that little cheat-gambit by now? Well they have. Here is the leverage they use:
🚩 Hagwons are "High Risk": Here is a den of snakes. Some bite, some don't, and some are poisonous. I have a pretty good idea your risk, but encourage you to reach your hand in anyway. Is that sound advice? You are also going into a den of snakes in Korea, you are likely to be bitten. Anyone who gives you advice otherwise, is a fool, incredibly lucky, a Pollyanna, or too naive to know any better. Those who have been bitten give better advice, don't listen to dummies who got lucky. "Occupational Negligence" is similar to other forms of negligence. Criminal negligence:
You see the foreigners in their starter blocks at 4:58PM, rear ends raised in the air, ready to blast out the door at 5PM and calculate how fast they can get home and do what they want. Meanwhile, the Koreans will just look at the clock and hang around until 5:20 or so. Why? Because the boss is watching and seeing who is REALLY loyal to the company. Who is going to put in the extra time needed to get the work done? The most important thing is when the work is completed regardless of what the clock says. Don't want to come in on weekends? Disloyal. Complain about having to do extra work? Disloyal. Don't want to give up your lunch or break time to do what they are asking? Disloyal. Get tired of being exploited, head to the airport and go home? Disloyal! Do Koreans show loyalty to you by sticking to the agreed-upon contract stipulations as close as possible? No. How about stealing your time and your money? Is that disloyal? No, they don't even consider it illegal, just doing good business. How about making sure you have enough R&R to prevent burn-out? Nope, not even the slightest. You owe them everything. They invented the conditions for you to have a job, salary, health care, and apartment, the least you can do is sacrifice every waking moment to ensure the company is successful. 🚩 You Don't Actually Get Vacation: This is why the usual suspects from the rotating sewage on Dave's ESL Cafe are always looking for replacements, usually --ASAP!-- (because someone quit). They over work you, take away your breaks, lunch, prep time before work, homework correcting after work, and your weekends. They also double-count your 10 vacation days so that you don't actually get any. They are simply not going to schedule an entire week with no classes just so the foreigners can head out of town for a few days. That's a ton of lost revenue for them. They figure, "They won't renew their contract anyway, so they will have plenty of time to rest after their year contract is finished." And that's exactly what happens. The foreigners are sick and tired of seeing the same 4 walls from sun-up to sun-down, and through all 4 seasons, and are mentally / physically burned out. Whatever vacation they promise you, it's not consecutive, it's scatter-shot. They may split it 5 in summer, 5 in winter. You'll be lucky to get even half of that. If you agree to join and share your profile on the social messaging app Kakaotalk. That wretched nuisance app makes you available to them 24 hours a day and they abuse it. They will make 4 or 5 different chat groups, AND send emails with the company extension, AND send things to your private email account, and it's a whirlwind trying to keep track of them all. Foreigners get sick of it, don't renew their contract, head home or try to find a better job, and then the Hagwon owners are back on Dave's ESL Cafe to find a fresh one with fresh batteries who have no idea what's in store for them with an under represented contract. Need a Native English Teacher--ASAP!-- 🚩 There Are No Sick Days: Oh you get 3 sick days a year? And you believed that? If you want to have a Hagwon owner suffer a mild heart attack, tell them you don't feel well and aren't coming in to work. They have a few harassment techniques to punish you, as they have no substitute pool available, and (gasp!) may have to cancel classes and refund some of the parent's money?! No way! https://preview.redd.it/lwkq1icnbf651.jpg?width=327&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f18bde58c626f019e9d425f788a8e3c265bd4d9
It depends on the location and number of days per week they attend, but about the average cost for a parent for 2 days a week is about $180. So, a Hagwon, will have a student set Monday/Thursday and a second set Tuesday/Friday. So you'll teach the same pages two different times for a larger Hagwon. Wednesday is filled with 1:1 coaching, training, homework, data inputting, meetings,---busy work. The Hagwon will schedule 20 days of work per month, every month, and a full cycle or semester can be a 2 or 3 month block. There is no room for vacation. Well, how about during public school vacation? Nope. The Hagwon will fill up that time with a 2 week block of intensive summer or winter camp activities 5 or sometimes 6 days a week, so camps can be even more exhaustive. Like a lawyer, each hour of each day is "billable time." No Hagwon is simply going to lose 10 full days of valuable money-making time for each foreigner they have on staff. The Hagwon I worked in, had 6 foreigners. Do you think they will just cancel 60 days of classes per year so the foreigners can go traveling and also PAY for it, because it's 10 days paid vacation? Obviously not. They will whittle away those days down to nothing and save money doing it. Watch out, you'll never get them. 🚩 Conclusion 🚩Stop enabling these places to exist. You are partly to blame. Imagine if the U.S. southern slaves kept going back to the plantation because at least they'd still get food, housing, healthcare, and a job? Sure, it's all sucks, but it's better than nothing! With that attitude, we'd still have a version of slavery well into the 21st Century. I know you see a huge list of jobs available and think that you are advancing in the world, leaving home and friends, acting like a grown up with a real job and income, see the world a little. Believe me, it's just the opposite. Your Hagwon job means nothing, especially if it's not even part of your degree. It means nothing in Korea. If you go to a public school or university, Hagwon years are counted as ZERO experience. No one respects it, not even Koreans. Your income is around minimum wage after all your hours are calculated. You get virtually NO vacation time to travel. There is nothing wrong with moving back home after college, live above the garage, and work part-time at the local gas station until you find something better. Stay around a STABLE family and support network. Make some loan payments, maybe work on a certificate, WAIT and plan, don't jump off the deep end and go around the world to work at some money-grubbing cram school. Do you know why there are 30 million plastic bottles floating in the ocean? Because 30 million people all thought the same thing, "I can throw this bottle in there, one won't make any difference!" Haven't you seen the South Park episode, Something Wall Mart This Way Comes? The simple solution to stop the big abusive Wal*Mart monopoly is to stop shopping there! Simply deny them your patronage! Same applies to the Hagwon system, stop giving them your labor, choke them off completely no matter how much they adjust to the boycott by increasing salary or job conditions. It needs to completely go away. If they are gone, the citizens will start demanding the public schools actually do their job and stay open until 2:45PM so their kids can get a good education. The parents will save money by not having to blow it on the Hagwon system, which is a complete fraud. The poor kids can't afford all that extra Hagwon training, how are they going to keep up? It's just not a fair system for anybody. It has to be completely de-Nazified, like Europe. You can't reason or negotiate with certain people throughout history, you need to totally smash the system and start over, or replace it with nothing. Every time you jump on the assembly line, they are going to exploit and take advantage of you, until you have a slave revolt, and they'll just replace you with another one willing to do it. If you want to teach ESL, please check out the many apps and online websites that enable you to teach 1:1 to students around the world. Try that first, with no risk, and see if it's to your liking, as you'll be doing the exact same thing, only to a group of 12 in a classroom in Korea. If you do just close your eyes and hope for the best, please RECORD EVERYTHING! Skype interviews, a screenshot of their advertisement, personal face to face interviews, everything. Boy, you are going to need it! They are going to pull the old bait & switch game on you or ignore their own rules, when you say, "Wait a minute, you said....." They will deny it, you go back to your recording and cut/edit it, and throw it back in their face, "Yeah, you said exactly this on this date." You don't know how many times I would have loved to have whipped out the Ace of Spades and slammed it on the table in front of them, establishing once and for all, they were and are now deceptive, and I caught them in the act. Record ALL personal meetings whether it seems off the record or official reprimands. Weekly business meetings, yep, record those too. Just start your recording app, and close the cover of your phone. Please stop applying for these awful jobs, and do your small part to make the world just a little bit better. And as an added incentive, just imagine some of these hucksters, snake oil salesmen, cheats, frauds, and losers have to close shop and start at the bottom working for someone else, or cleaning toilets to pay rent. Pretty cool huh? Wouldn't you take pride in knowing the abusive and arrogant were humbled and thrown from their pedestal? Think about it before making the decision to put yourself in a vulnerable situation, and totally in the hands of those that have no mercy for your suffering. Thanks. https://preview.redd.it/cczcysv3ibw41.jpg?width=997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e389be51571084ca98c1548c3a7af673c821e9b0 |
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