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2024.05.21 15:02 oooooooooooui Char dham 2024 experience
We are 10 family members who booked this trip through a tour agency. My dadi(grandmother) is 76 years old with operation in both legs and a 3 year cancer patient. Our tour started at 11th May, 2024. We did the char dham in proper sequence (Yamnoutri -Gangotri- Kedarnath -Badrinath). We had a proper itinerary and online bookings done by the agency.
First we had a hotel booking in Barkot. The hotel was okay. they are extremely possessive about their towels with a rule- 1 towel per room??? I'm with my dadi and aunty in one room. They probably have a laundry problem or something but every single hotel has this nonsense rule. Anyways, next day 5am we left for Yamnoutri. Got stuck in a 5km long jam(Yamnoutri is 35km away) Me and my dad decided to walk it out. We covered 20km by 3pm however it started raining and couldn't continue ahead. We stayed in a tapri for 4 hours until the rain cleared. Our family was still stuck in traffic and hadn't reached even close to us. Now it's 8pm. We were supposed to be done with Yamnoutri and go back to our Barkot hotel. We had to cancel our Barkot bookings(and the hotel manager put all the bags of our 10 people in 1 room messing up everyones luggage). We booked another hotel at Sayanchatti were our family members reached at 11pm. Police management was utterly trash. I think even they were surprised with the amount of overcrowding. Next day we finally reached Yamnoutri. About the trek- the pathway/trail is full of shit. And I mean literally full of horse-poop. There are 700-1000 horses. Even after getting a horse, we had to wait 40mins for parchi and additional 1 hour(while on our horse) because of horse-jam. Yes there is a traffic jam of horses ON THE TREK. We wanted to walk but seeing the people who did walk, I was glad we didn't. The path is almost 3 meter wide with pithu, doly/palki, horses and people walking simultaneously. People who walked got continuously hit by horses and had to dirty their shoes in horse poop. We reached the temple finally, did Pooja, etc and managed to return Barkot where we had to re-book for another night. Our itinerary was already messed up at this point and money was wasted thrice (previous booking unattended in Barkot, the new booking in Sayanchatti and rebooking in Barkot). There is more like the incredibly risky horse route, etc but that's inevitable. I'm gonna continue with Gangotri.
We reached Maneri after struggling in jams for 7+ hours. We also did Uttarkashi before that. Ok so here the police had stopped us at checkpost and said cars are going in batches and if they let us go the jam ahead would only get worse. Now our hotel was 5 minutes(3km) by car from the checkpost. I went walking 3km and reached the hotel and there was absolutely no traffic like we told the police. We even showed them on Google maps. Traffic jams are understandable, but not letting us go after talking to the hotel owner, seeing proof that we won't contribute to traffic, that was a bit triggering. From police side it was just plain dumb. The commisioner there would keep talking his egoistical nonsense, not listening to anyone. Finally the rest of my family reached the hotel. Same issue with towels, rubbish beds, never ending insects and super unclean bathrooms with no pressure in water(flush, jets, bath, basin). Anyways, next day 12am we left for Gangotri with zero sleep because we are already behind our bookings and trying to avoid wasting more money. Got stuck in jam till 6am. [Also another note here, we had 2 private cars and one of the drivers was sleeping drunk and almost hit me and my mom. He hit a tempo traveller and we told him go back to sleep.] Finally reached Gangotri at 5:30pm, did our Pooja and then got in line for Darshan. My dadi and I got into the senior citizen line because she is 76 years old and can barely stand/walk in lines. Tilll now in the trip I don't completely blame the police for what was going on. But here in Gangotri, if anyone is going I am warning you, the police is rubbish. They are rude, tired with the crowd and very harsh and worst of all lazy. When u reach the main statue to go darshan, it's continuous pushing and almost a stampede, you cannot carry a baby or a old person there, they are garanteed to get hurt and the police won't care AT ALL. If you are lucky u might get to see the main statue of Ganga Mata for more than 4 seconds. After that we got back to our hotel in Maneri.
Next day we left for our hotel booking (adjusted by our agency) in Phata-Mankheda. Don't forget to go to Guptkashi before entering Phata. Here too same issues like 1 towel per room, charging points at the most unreachable locations in the room, etc. But this was still better than Maneri. Next morning 3am we left for Sonprayag. There is a line for your registration approval which goes on till Sitapur (2km from Sonprayag). People will continuously try to break and enter the line and there is almost a stampede and lot of heated crowd. After registration, you can go join 1km line for government taxi(50rs per head) from Sonprayag to Gaurikund. Anyways, after reaching Gaurikund there is a 1km inclined gali then the horses start.Remember this part. So here we again had to take a horse even tho we wanted to trek because at this point we were on 3-4hrs sleep everyday and our mental was very weak. We paid 6000rs per horse because it wasn't morning and the horse owner GARANTEED us all of my family members will be together, there will be one person per horse and that he already has the parchi. 5 of us had taken the horses and others went walking, palki and pithu. This path was again same as Yamnoutri or even worse. More horse-poop than ever, the sweepers there won't care and sweep the trash on you if u r in their way and continue doing so. People working there are literally illustrate and 'gouthi'. The horse owner didn't fulfil his promise either. There was 1 man handling 3 horses. The horses were going anywhere, hitting our legs on railings, other yatris,other horses etc. They told us to get down and walk 50m every time they saw police which is when we understood they didn't make a parchi. When we reached the top they demanded for the full money which they very very very obviously did not deserve for all their lies. When we said take 28k because anyways 2 of their men didn't come. They said give 30k else don't give anything at all. This childish, greedy attitude of theirs was again very triggering. We are not beggars and they are not doing us any favours so we still paid them the full amount. We are on a spiritual journey but since everything is about money from tourism, our spirit kept getting crushed. We had to spend the night at Kedarnath and our agency had booked us a dormitory. I warn anyone booking a dormitory, just don't. 30 unclean, continuously used beds, in one non- ventilation suffocating room with 1 Indian style toilet whose latch doesn't work shared with strangers. And the worst part is it is 1000rs per bed. I wouldn't pay 20rs for this rubbish service. At this point my spirit completely broke and I fell sick. I hadn't eaten anything and didn't want to. Next day my dad and I went down through horse at government rate (2300/). Others came in pithu and trek. Now came the worst part. The overcrord at the narrow 500m gali which i told u to remember above. Oh my God. After 22km Trek you are treated with this 0 management wild crowd. I had to take care of my dadi and fam from getting hurt. After reaching Gaurikund, again another 1.5km line with no special preference for senior citizens. Here people bribed the police 500rs to break and enter the line(happened right in front of me and my phone had no battery) When you reach the taxi finally, everyone tries to enter together and the police are just standing mutes. They are done with thisš. Finally got into the taxi, reached Sonprayag. Had to walk till Sitapur. Got a private taxi from there who demanded unreasonable price.We got mad and told him 4000rs till phata-mankheda(20km) which he then agreed to. Our hotel had changed to the worst possible hell of a hotel ever. I don't even want to talk about it. It has scarred me how people go about their business with 0 standards. At this point we just wanted to go home but Badrinath is left š
Ngl Badrinath tour was decent. Our hotel was in Piplakoti. Decent hotel called River view hotel. Roads are good. Only 4 hour line in Badrinath with heated crowd and 5 second darshan. At this point we are used to this so it's okš. Police was actually working and managing. Only issue we faced was directions from main road to the mandir and back. At night it gets very confusing.
Now I'd like to add, i haven't taken any names of hotels(except river view) or my tour agency because I don't mean any disrespect.
Uttrakhand is a beautiful beaitiful and amazing place with sceneries and memories I will carry with me forever. The sceneries while going to every dham are different and unique in their own way. Even just traveling from one dham to another by road is an amazing experience(excluding the jams).
I have some opinions- 1. Management is almost non-existent. Meet any Yatri and they will tell you the same. 2. Police are corrupt and lazy. Some try actively but that's like 10% of them. 3. The problem with hotels is that they are all on lease. I'll explain. The owner gives a person say Rahul their hotel on lease and asks for a certain amount per year. Rahul gets paid after that certain amount exceeds. Hotel bookings for char dham 6 months are always full. Rahul will always get this money and hence sees no need to maintain this hotel. So that's that. 4. Uttrakhand runs only and only on tourism and it is obvious. So as an individual tourist, you DO NOT matter. They don't care, they get people continuously. If your booking is cancelled there is always someone else to take it. You cannot talk sense to anyone running any type of service there. 5. Yamnoutri, Gangotri and Kedarnath roads for reaching there are narrow. Government should ban big buses permanently and is the best move they can make. These buses are 80% of the reasons for jams. They are improving roads but it's been 75+ years since independence so idk what they are doing. 6. Government should NOT take registrations when they cannot afford them. 27 Lakh registrations is not a joke. 2.8Lakh people in 4 days is not a joke. No one can manage this amount of people. Have a limit. People are spending lakhs of rupees coming from all over India for this and 90% of it is a bad experience. 7. Don't open all char dham together. This year's main issue was all 4 temples opened at the same date, 10th May. People were already ready and started rushing from 7-8th May.
Advice for Future Yatris- 1. Don't come in May. I had a compulsion so we had to. But everyone here says that the best months for char dham is September-October before Diwali. 2. If you do come in May, don't do online bookings. You need to be flexible with where you are gonna stay. 3. Carry a towel per person. Hotels are extremely possessive about their towels. 4. Leave early for every dham if you are committed to do all 4 of them. I've seen lot of people give up in jams. 5. Get warm clothes especially lot of socks and bring medicines, etc. Rain coats are ok but u need a poncho. Rain coats don't cover your bagpacks while trekking and even if they do, they will stretch and might tear. 6. Private cars/taxi yatri, spend a bit more and get a comfortable car. You will spend most of the time in your vehicle. Tempo travellers are extremely uncomfortable and avoid them. 7. Take cold water baths at colder places as warm water baths bring the blood vessels to skin level making it more sensitive later. You have to be mentally prepared before taking a cold water bath. 8. Weather changes like anything. Suncap and goggles are a must in day time. 9. If u get sick/stomach upset have black tea and biscuits. 10. Do private Pooja at Badrinath.
Good things- 1. The food is amazing. It's almost as good as homemade food. You can always tell the cook how you like your food. Do try the Vegetable Maggi at highecolder mountains. It's available everywhere. 2. Sceneries are amazing and don't forget to carry a proper camera. Phone tech these days is good too and will make photo-frame photos. 3. You will always find people to talk to. If you happen to find polite people, say the hotel cook or a homeguard or other yatris or anyone at all, you will have a good conversation. 4. The pandits are good and will only ask you to pay them if u want to for the Pooja. Always pay them. 5. No phone range. It's good so you live in the moment and can enjoy the amazing sceneries :)
I'm trying to be completely honest without involving any type of hate here and trying to paint a complete picture of what my journey was like. We had to go over budget(almost double) because we didn't know any of this even after research. Our tour agency didn't warn us about anything either. Only thing that matters is that you enter the holy grounds. You can expect amazing sceneries but not an amazing darshan in May. It's been a bittersweet journey and I am writing this while omw to home. I hope y'all find this helpful and plan accordingly only if you are going in May or peak season. Otherwise you might not face much issues in September. Thank you for reading.
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First we had a hotel booking in Barkot. The hotel was okay. they are extremely possessive about their towels with a rule- 1 towel per room??? I'm with my dadi and aunty in one room. They probably have a laundry problem or something but every single hotel has this nonsense rule. Anyways, next day 5am we left for Yamnoutri. Got stuck in a 5km long jam(Yamnoutri is 35km away) Me and my dad decided to walk it out. We covered 20km by 3pm however it started raining and couldn't continue ahead. We stayed in a tapri for 4 hours until the rain cleared. Our family was still stuck in traffic and hadn't reached even close to us. Now it's 8pm. We were supposed to be done with Yamnoutri and go back to our Barkot hotel. We had to cancel our Barkot bookings(and the hotel manager put all the bags of our 10 people in 1 room messing up everyones luggage). We booked another hotel at Sayanchatti were our family members reached at 11pm. Police management was utterly trash. I think even they were surprised with the amount of overcrowding. Next day we finally reached Yamnoutri. About the trek- the pathway/trail is full of shit. And I mean literally full of horse-poop. There are 700-1000 horses. Even after getting a horse, we had to wait 40mins for parchi and additional 1 hour(while on our horse) because of horse-jam. Yes there is a traffic jam of horses ON THE TREK. We wanted to walk but seeing the people who did walk, I was glad we didn't. The path is almost 3 meter wide with pithu, doly/palki, horses and people walking simultaneously. People who walked got continuously hit by horses and had to dirty their shoes in horse poop. We reached the temple finally, did Pooja, etc and managed to return Barkot where we had to re-book for another night. Our itinerary was already messed up at this point and money was wasted thrice (previous booking unattended in Barkot, the new booking in Sayanchatti and rebooking in Barkot). There is more like the incredibly risky horse route, etc but that's inevitable. I'm gonna continue with Gangotri.
We reached Maneri after struggling in jams for 7+ hours. We also did Uttarkashi before that. Ok so here the police had stopped us at checkpost and said cars are going in batches and if they let us go the jam ahead would only get worse. Now our hotel was 5 minutes(3km) by car from the checkpost. I went walking 3km and reached the hotel and there was absolutely no traffic like we told the police. We even showed them on Google maps. Traffic jams are understandable, but not letting us go after talking to the hotel owner, seeing proof that we won't contribute to traffic, that was a bit triggering. From police side it was just plain dumb. The commisioner there would keep talking his egoistical nonsense, not listening to anyone. Finally the rest of my family reached the hotel. Same issue with towels, rubbish beds, never ending insects and super unclean bathrooms with no pressure in water(flush, jets, bath, basin). Anyways, next day 12am we left for Gangotri with zero sleep because we are already behind our bookings and trying to avoid wasting more money. Got stuck in jam till 6am. [Also another note here, we had 2 private cars and one of the drivers was sleeping drunk and almost hit me and my mom. He hit a tempo traveller and we told him go back to sleep.] Finally reached Gangotri at 5:30pm, did our Pooja and then got in line for Darshan. My dadi and I got into the senior citizen line because she is 76 years old and can barely stand/walk in lines. Tilll now in the trip I don't completely blame the police for what was going on. But here in Gangotri, if anyone is going I am warning you, the police is rubbish. They are rude, tired with the crowd and very harsh and worst of all lazy. When u reach the main statue to go darshan, it's continuous pushing and almost a stampede, you cannot carry a baby or a old person there, they are garanteed to get hurt and the police won't care AT ALL. If you are lucky u might get to see the main statue of Ganga Mata for more than 4 seconds. After that we got back to our hotel in Maneri.
Next day we left for our hotel booking (adjusted by our agency) in Phata-Mankheda. Don't forget to go to Guptkashi before entering Phata. Here too same issues like 1 towel per room, charging points at the most unreachable locations in the room, etc. But this was still better than Maneri. Next morning 3am we left for Sonprayag. There is a line for your registration approval which goes on till Sitapur (2km from Sonprayag). People will continuously try to break and enter the line and there is almost a stampede and lot of heated crowd. After registration, you can go join 1km line for government taxi(50rs per head) from Sonprayag to Gaurikund. Anyways, after reaching Gaurikund there is a 1km inclined gali then the horses start.Remember this part. So here we again had to take a horse even tho we wanted to trek because at this point we were on 3-4hrs sleep everyday and our mental was very weak. We paid 6000rs per horse because it wasn't morning and the horse owner GARANTEED us all of my family members will be together, there will be one person per horse and that he already has the parchi. 5 of us had taken the horses and others went walking, palki and pithu. This path was again same as Yamnoutri or even worse. More horse-poop than ever, the sweepers there won't care and sweep the trash on you if u r in their way and continue doing so. People working there are literally illustrate and 'gouthi'. The horse owner didn't fulfil his promise either. There was 1 man handling 3 horses. The horses were going anywhere, hitting our legs on railings, other yatris,other horses etc. They told us to get down and walk 50m every time they saw police which is when we understood they didn't make a parchi. When we reached the top they demanded for the full money which they very very very obviously did not deserve for all their lies. When we said take 28k because anyways 2 of their men didn't come. They said give 30k else don't give anything at all. This childish, greedy attitude of theirs was again very triggering. We are not beggars and they are not doing us any favours so we still paid them the full amount. We are on a spiritual journey but since everything is about money from tourism, our spirit kept getting crushed. We had to spend the night at Kedarnath and our agency had booked us a dormitory. I warn anyone booking a dormitory, just don't. 30 unclean, continuously used beds, in one non- ventilation suffocating room with 1 Indian style toilet whose latch doesn't work shared with strangers. And the worst part is it is 1000rs per bed. I wouldn't pay 20rs for this rubbish service. At this point my spirit completely broke and I fell sick. I hadn't eaten anything and didn't want to. Next day my dad and I went down through horse at government rate (2300/). Others came in pithu and trek. Now came the worst part. The overcrord at the narrow 500m gali which i told u to remember above. Oh my God. After 22km Trek you are treated with this 0 management wild crowd. I had to take care of my dadi and fam from getting hurt. After reaching Gaurikund, again another 1.5km line with no special preference for senior citizens. Here people bribed the police 500rs to break and enter the line(happened right in front of me and my phone had no battery) When you reach the taxi finally, everyone tries to enter together and the police are just standing mutes. They are done with thisš. Finally got into the taxi, reached Sonprayag. Had to walk till Sitapur. Got a private taxi from there who demanded unreasonable price.We got mad and told him 4000rs till phata-mankheda(20km) which he then agreed to. Our hotel had changed to the worst possible hell of a hotel ever. I don't even want to talk about it. It has scarred me how people go about their business with 0 standards. At this point we just wanted to go home but Badrinath is left š
Ngl Badrinath tour was decent. Our hotel was in Piplakoti. Decent hotel called River view hotel. Roads are good. Only 4 hour line in Badrinath with heated crowd and 5 second darshan. At this point we are used to this so it's okš. Police was actually working and managing. Only issue we faced was directions from main road to the mandir and back. At night it gets very confusing.
Now I'd like to add, i haven't taken any names of hotels(except river view) or my tour agency because I don't mean any disrespect.
Uttrakhand is a beautiful beaitiful and amazing place with sceneries and memories I will carry with me forever. The sceneries while going to every dham are different and unique in their own way. Even just traveling from one dham to another by road is an amazing experience(excluding the jams).
I have some opinions- 1. Management is almost non-existent. Meet any Yatri and they will tell you the same. 2. Police are corrupt and lazy. Some try actively but that's like 10% of them. 3. The problem with hotels is that they are all on lease. I'll explain. The owner gives a person say Rahul their hotel on lease and asks for a certain amount per year. Rahul gets paid after that certain amount exceeds. Hotel bookings for char dham 6 months are always full. Rahul will always get this money and hence sees no need to maintain this hotel. So that's that. 4. Uttrakhand runs only and only on tourism and it is obvious. So as an individual tourist, you DO NOT matter. They don't care, they get people continuously. If your booking is cancelled there is always someone else to take it. You cannot talk sense to anyone running any type of service there. 5. Yamnoutri, Gangotri and Kedarnath roads for reaching there are narrow. Government should ban big buses permanently and is the best move they can make. These buses are 80% of the reasons for jams. They are improving roads but it's been 75+ years since independence so idk what they are doing. 6. Government should NOT take registrations when they cannot afford them. 27 Lakh registrations is not a joke. 2.8Lakh people in 4 days is not a joke. No one can manage this amount of people. Have a limit. People are spending lakhs of rupees coming from all over India for this and 90% of it is a bad experience. 7. Don't open all char dham together. This year's main issue was all 4 temples opened at the same date, 10th May. People were already ready and started rushing from 7-8th May.
Advice for Future Yatris- 1. Don't come in May. I had a compulsion so we had to. But everyone here says that the best months for char dham is September-October before Diwali. 2. If you do come in May, don't do online bookings. You need to be flexible with where you are gonna stay. 3. Carry a towel per person. Hotels are extremely possessive about their towels. 4. Leave early for every dham if you are committed to do all 4 of them. I've seen lot of people give up in jams. 5. Get warm clothes especially lot of socks and bring medicines, etc. Rain coats are ok but u need a poncho. Rain coats don't cover your bagpacks while trekking and even if they do, they will stretch and might tear. 6. Private cars/taxi yatri, spend a bit more and get a comfortable car. You will spend most of the time in your vehicle. Tempo travellers are extremely uncomfortable and avoid them. 7. Take cold water baths at colder places as warm water baths bring the blood vessels to skin level making it more sensitive later. You have to be mentally prepared before taking a cold water bath. 8. Weather changes like anything. Suncap and goggles are a must in day time. 9. If u get sick/stomach upset have black tea and biscuits. 10. Do private Pooja at Badrinath.
Good things- 1. The food is amazing. It's almost as good as homemade food. You can always tell the cook how you like your food. Do try the Vegetable Maggi at highecolder mountains. It's available everywhere. 2. Sceneries are amazing and don't forget to carry a proper camera. Phone tech these days is good too and will make photo-frame photos. 3. You will always find people to talk to. If you happen to find polite people, say the hotel cook or a homeguard or other yatris or anyone at all, you will have a good conversation. 4. The pandits are good and will only ask you to pay them if u want to for the Pooja. Always pay them. 5. No phone range. It's good so you live in the moment and can enjoy the amazing sceneries :)
I'm trying to be completely honest without involving any type of hate here and trying to paint a complete picture of what my journey was like. We had to go over budget(almost double) because we didn't know any of this even after research. Our tour agency didn't warn us about anything either. Only thing that matters is that you enter the holy grounds. You can expect amazing sceneries but not an amazing darshan in May. It's been a bittersweet journey and I am writing this while omw to home. I hope y'all find this helpful and plan accordingly only if you are going in May or peak season. Otherwise you might not face much issues in September. Thank you for reading.
2024.05.21 15:01 lost-on-the-highway How to teach yourself guitar (my two cents)
Start playing. Never stop playing. Practise. It doesn't matter if you start on a vintage Fender or a rubbish one off Amazon or your granpa's dusty acoustic. Listen to your favourite songs. Try to play them. Fail to play them. Try again. Play until your fingers hurt. Look up tabs. Play the tabs. Learn the notes. Forget the notes. Re-learn the notes. Find a practise room. Play in your bedroom with headphones on. Play in the park with your friends. Turn the volume up and play your favourite overplayed riff really badly because it last week you couldn't even strum a C chord and any improvement is good improvement. Get annoyed. Feel like you want to give up. Don't give up. Power through. Leave it alone for a few days. Return. Try to do a pinch harmonic. Improvise something that sounds bad. Improve until it sounds good. Play along to your favourite songs. Play even if you think you suck because every great musician sucked at one point. Don't compare yourself to the shredders on social media. Be proud of yourself. Play your favourite song for your friends and family. Feel the music. Let it bring you joy.
Play because you love it. Play because you hate it. Play because it changed your life.
But whatever you do, never stop playing.
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Play because you love it. Play because you hate it. Play because it changed your life.
But whatever you do, never stop playing.
2024.05.21 15:01 SharkEva My wife friend-zoned me and wants a platonic ācompanionshipā
I am not the OOP. The OOP is u/themachucajr posting in Marriage
Ongoing as per OOP
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Original - 7th May 2024
Update - 15th May 2024
My wife friend-zoned me and wants a platonic ācompanionshipā
My wife (35f) and I (35m) have been married for 15 years and we've been together for 20 years. We have two kids (12,14) we absolutely adore and work tirelessly to provide the best possible life for them. For the past 3 years, things have been somewhat bumpy. I understand that our kids are at an age where they require a ton of our attention and resources with school, band, club sports, and other extracurriculars and I'm aware of the physical and emotional toll that can have on marriages.
However, for these past 3 years, my wife and I have had very little intimacy and very little sex and we've been trying very hard to work on that aspect of our relationship. This past year has been the most difficult and by far the darkest year in our marriage. We didnāt talk very much, we essentially became roommates coparenting our kids under the same roof. It was very depressing and very demoralizing. It was to the point where we began contemplating divorce and it became very dark and gloomy in the household because of that.
We began seeking help with both individualized therapy and couples therapy and it seems to have helped some. Little by little we started to get along and started to have deeper conversations about what our marriage looks like and what we would love for it to look like. This is where it gets tough. As time passed, my wife started to tell me she no longer was "in love with me" and that she only saw me as a "best friend." That she only loved me in a very platonic way, and this was one of the main reasons she didnāt have any desire for intimacy and let alone sex.
This was very shocking to me and quite frankly, I was devastated. I because angry and depressed and I couldn't fathom the thought that I was no longer wanted or desired by the person I felt completely in love with. Things began to deteriorate again and not long after, we were back to square one. I sat down with her one afternoon and had a heart to heart and began to ask questions about where the root of this problem lies, and her answer was "I don't know" and that "I have built up resentment towards you but I don't know where it stems from." As you can imagine, this provides very little to no insight into how to approach this.
I'm puzzled, I'm frustrated and I do not know what to do at this point. Currently, we've arrived at a place where she says that she has no sex drive and no desire for intimacy or connection. She says that all she wants is simply "companionship" which basically means our coparenting roommate dynamic. I asked her what I could possibly do or what is it about me that is so unattractive or undesirable and she her response is always "I don't know." She stated that she does "love" me but its not the same. That she has been feeling disconnected for years and that our marriage just takes up too much work. Her focus is only the children for now and that my coparenting contributions are "meaningful" to her in our home.
I'm at a loss and I'm mainly venting about my frustration. It's tough to realize that the person you love has no feelings for you. I feel like at this point I'm only here to contribute financially and as a parent. I feel like what she means with "companionship" is that she's comfortable with the convenience of having a good father for our kids and my financial contribution to the household.
In regard to intimacy and/or sex, she basically told me that its not something sheās interested in or wants at this time. She mentioned that the only way to get to a point for any of that is to be intoxicated which o believe is incredibly awful and very wrong. I told her I do not think forcing herself to have sex or be intimate by drinking or smoking is good and I declined to be a part of that which to my surprise, it upset her and made her more distant.
We're both extremely honest and transparent. We've never cheated on each other and we are always free to look through each others phones, emails, socials, etc. and we hardly ever do. I asked her if there was someone else and she declined. Honestly, I believe her. We then peacefully went through each otherās things and as expected, it was clean. We've always been very forward, even with the hard topics so I don't smell nor feel any foul play or infidelity.
Am I wrong for declining to only be intimate or have sex when sheās intoxicated? (I'm firm on my stance of not partaking in this "only when I'm high or drunk" sex because it doesnāt sit well with me.) I do not know how to help our situation and I'm starting to become a bit anxious and desperate. We're both fairly young and healthy individuals and good looking. We both have good standing careers and are good parents. I'm just not sure how our lives could have driven us to this point. I'd love some outside perspective on this matter and some insight on how to address something like this. It feels so awful to be unwanted and undesired by my own spouse. I hate it.
tl;dr: My wife of 15+ years is no longer in love with me and doesnāt know way and now says she can only have sex while intoxicated or I need to settle for a platonic sexless marriage and she doesnāt know why that is but it is what it is and I'm in need of insight or advice.
Comments
Warthog__
From your comment history it looks like you are Swingers? If so, I would think that would be relevant information to consider.
failedopportunities
Itās an obvious potential issue broā¦ wether it be sheās enjoying herself a side piece and wants nothing to do with you in that manner anymore. Or, she just went along with you on the swinging and never wanted to do it in the first place. Hence brings resentment. Regardless, should have been included in the initial post.
BigIronBruce
Will she be your best friend if you live elsewhere and have a relationship with somebody in love you. Probably not. Which makes the whole "best friend" speech feel like self-deception on her part.
I won't lie, if it were me, I'd get a divorce. She doesn't seem willing to do the work to fix the marriage and you can't fix it alone. She might promise to fix it or beg you not to but you need to follow your gut as to whether she actually can or will fix it. She's serious that she wants you to stick around but not necessarily as her husband.
Basically withold from any unnecesary interactions and affection. This is from an infidelity forum, but principles are the same https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/documents/library/articles/discovery/the-simplified-180/
Update - 8 days later
I wanted to give you guys an update of how the therapy session with my wife went this week. Not sure if this is helpful or not but I took many of the responses/comments/suggestions from my initial post and put together some things I wanted to discuss with our couples therapist to help us navigate some of the core issues that may be affecting this situation.
One of the main things that is the "buzz word" of this has been the term "resentment" and it has been really eating me up inside knowing my wife keeps telling me she doesn't know why she's resentful or doesn't know why this is affecting her emotionally/mentally. I brought this up with our therapist once again and resurfaced the conversation about being married for so long (15yrs) and being together since we ere 14yrs old. Our long history of growing up and how having children when she was 19yrs old (me 20) significantly changed the trajectory of our lives.
We experience severe poverty and many hardships in the process and we essentially had zero social life for the past 10 years because we were so busy raising babies (2 kids now ages 12 &14). She followed up with tons of questions directly mostly at my wife about her feelings towards this and 90% of the responses were very "our kids" focused. It definitely felt like she was afraid of saying "yes it sucked" because she would feel guilt or shame because it would imply she regrets the kids.
I mentioned this in the session and the therapist encouraged her to look at this outside of the lens of being a mother and to try to view it a bit more selfishly and individually and it was very eye opening. My wife mentioned that she was very frustrated with the fact that we did miss out on many things in life. She also was very clear in saying "I do not think I missed out on other partners or dating or partying but I certainly lost all my friends." This was huge because one of the big pieces that has caused a strain in our lives is how silo'd and isolated we've been (again busy raising kids). I followed up by reminding her that it's important to have good friends and to make time for herself and her friendships.
For the past 3+ years, we've had multiple conversations about friends and how it is important to have them in life. Specially when you have similar peers that can help in many areas of life that perhaps we have no experience navigating and even simply for enjoyment. It has always been something my wife avoids, even though she's always been someone who needs that external stimuli. The main reason for her not investing in friends or even herself has always been "the kids." Like I mentioned earlier in this post, 90% of the answers have to relate to "the kids" to some degree.
At this point in our session I started to feel like there was a common denominator (the kids) in most of the frustrations and problems she was experiencing. So I simply asked her "Do you think you may be upset at me because I'm responsible for these kids in the sense that I got you pregnant so young?" I wasn't ready but she said that she was upset at me for that. She also followed up with the fact that she knows that's unreasonable because it "takes 2 to tango." I did feel like it was progress because it kind of gave us something to work on and help alleviate some of these "burdens" so we agreed to invest more time in nurturing good friendships both together and individually.
Towards the end of the session, we began to discuss what actionable items we would take from this session. At this point, it was still all very ambiguous and blurry as to what the outcomes were. I was very direct and very forward in asking my wife what her plan is moving forward. (NOTE: I had decided prior to the session that should my wife say the same thing about being a coparenting roommate that I would take the 180 approach and essentially do me) She started basically saying the same thing, that she doesn't have any desire to be intimate or sexual with me as of now and that she loves me immensely and she feels bad for not being there for me (as mentioned in my first post).
I also brought up the brief swinging that happened, to which for the 50th time said it wasn't a problem. I agree with her on this. This was something that was a "mechanical" approach for a solution to a problem that was very much in existent when we tried this. We (both) really have no issue to this. We know it happened, we tried it and mutually stopped and turned the page.
I also brought up other life events that may cause resentment and really we ended up not getting anywhere else as far as the root for resentment which was discouraging.
I then basically expressed to my wife that I will not be ok with that arrangement. I told her that I've really done everything I can and that this issue really has reached a point where it has nothing to do with me or require me to do anything that I'm currently not doing. I was very direct and saying that I will not be accepting this dynamic and that I need to be with someone who is actively involved in our marriage, works towards resolutions and is very much interested in maintaining an active intimacy and sexual relationship.
I expressed how I am not going to be a "convenience" and that there was more to life than being roommates and coparents. I made sure she knows I love her dearly and that I do want this to work for the better. I also told her that I'm fully committed to this marriage so long as she is as well and that is she wasn't, its ok, however I will not be a part of something where these efforts are not reciprocated. I told her I have no plans of leaving, and I do not want a divorce, however, I made it clear that if this dynamic continues that divorce will be the only outcome.
Of course tears were involved and it was a very bleak and sad ending to the session. Still nothing was said and I walked out very discouraged and very determined to start working on the 180 as soon as we left the room. It's painful and very difficult because much of the 180 requires you to be very short and cold and transactional. The saddest part is realizing, this dynamic already is very cold and transactional.
Here is where it gets VERY interesting. I started working on implementing many of the 180 recommendations that same day. I mentioned to my wife that, "hey, things are going to be a bit different moving forward. I'm going to honor her roommate/coparent dynamic without reproach and that it should be no mistake that I am not happy here and I am never going to be ok with it but I am done working on it if she wasn't going to work on it."
She agreed and went to bed. I started to build distance and started to basically focus on myself. Very short and transactional. She asked for help on some of her personal things to which I declined and it really shocked her. She was upset saying I was being petulant. I explained to her that, she is now fully in charge of her own life and her own issues.
We didn't talk all day and we only spoke when necessary. Few days I keep this going and she's very visibly upset and stressed. I typically react to that with gestures of help or nurturing but I didn't this time. That night she was crying telling me she's stressed and she things something is wrong with me because I'm "indifferent." I simply listened, then I told her that this is the dynamic she proposed and that I'm simply (much like her) taking care of myself and focusing on myself.
I'm not going to lie, it has been VERY hard to be cold and distant because as I mentioned before, I love her and I wish I could hold her and love on her. However, I know this is somewhat manipulative in a way just to get her way and still keep me in the friendzone. So I've been staying the course.
We're now going on a week of this 180 and let just say, there has been MANY changes on her side. I think she is starting to realize there is more to me than just "friends and coparenting." I sent her a text a few days ago essentially itemizing bills and separating the financial responsibilities 50/50 and SHE LOST HER SHIT. She basically told me it was "out of left field" to which I responded "hey, friends go in 50/50 and as your friend I expect nothing less."
This was very eye opening because it gave me a glimpse of I'm really taken for granted and how her level of comfort and convenience at my expense is really overlooked. I pushed through anyways and basically told her that this is the new dynamic she asked for and that its still a "bargain" because she would have to be 100% if she was on her own.
I'll wrap up with this. While the 180 has been working in many different areas, I am still very much sad about the overall situation. There have been MANY eye opening statements being said and realization that have not been pleasant to encounter. It has also sparked new energy and new efforts on her side as well. She's definitely seeking to talk to me more often and while its hard to turn down, I hope if things improve, this continues to happen.
I've also noticed that she's making more time for herself aside from being a mom which is HUGE because she pretty much neglected herself for years. I'm very pleased seeing her be more herself. My hope is that as we work on ourselves, the marriage improves. There really is no telling at this point where this will go. We are very much cordial and amicable even to this day and that's a very good sign.
Boundaries are set and expectations are very clear and I feel that no matter the outcome, I will be at peace with everything that has been done. We're still going to continue the couples therapist until we either rekindle our marriage or end up in divorce. I feel like having this nonbiased third party really helps as a witness and as a guide through this. No matter what I will always love my wife, however, I will not participate in a sexless, intimacy less marriage because we both deserve better.
Thank you all for all the kind words and recommendations and feedback. This will be my last post on this topic and I wish you all the best.
TL;DR: My wife friend-zoned me wants to just coparent at my expense but I started the 180 method to try and find a solution because she doesn't want to work on us which seems to be working on getting her out of her rut and helping me discover more about how she feels. Also, therapy is paramount and highly recommend to all couples.
Comments
Complete-Old-1960
Bottom line and not to be brutal, but there is one thing you don't have infinite amount of, is TIME. This has to be resolved in a timely manner. It takes 2 to be in love and to be loved, and u only have Ā½ of the equation. You need to put a time limit on you being the good guy and think of you and your future. Look hope it works out for you, but listening to what you are going through and what you could be in for you can still be a good father but also be a great husband to another wife if you find that special person again.
shes_a_killer
I have to agree with this, simply because at some point, the person who has gone 180 and is waiting for the other person to decide will begin to wonder, "Wow, they're really taking their time coming around to me...did they love me at all? If they ever appreciated and cared for me, why would they keep me waiting and neglecting me for so long?" Except, in my case, it had more to do with the other person being stubborn and unable to admit their faults.
RandyPan_theGoatBoy
I think itās interesting that in the comments of your original post you said you didnāt think she was taking you for granted but you came to realize she absolutely was. Can you give some more details on what the 180 method is?
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Update - 15th May 2024
My wife friend-zoned me and wants a platonic ācompanionshipā
My wife (35f) and I (35m) have been married for 15 years and we've been together for 20 years. We have two kids (12,14) we absolutely adore and work tirelessly to provide the best possible life for them. For the past 3 years, things have been somewhat bumpy. I understand that our kids are at an age where they require a ton of our attention and resources with school, band, club sports, and other extracurriculars and I'm aware of the physical and emotional toll that can have on marriages.
However, for these past 3 years, my wife and I have had very little intimacy and very little sex and we've been trying very hard to work on that aspect of our relationship. This past year has been the most difficult and by far the darkest year in our marriage. We didnāt talk very much, we essentially became roommates coparenting our kids under the same roof. It was very depressing and very demoralizing. It was to the point where we began contemplating divorce and it became very dark and gloomy in the household because of that.
We began seeking help with both individualized therapy and couples therapy and it seems to have helped some. Little by little we started to get along and started to have deeper conversations about what our marriage looks like and what we would love for it to look like. This is where it gets tough. As time passed, my wife started to tell me she no longer was "in love with me" and that she only saw me as a "best friend." That she only loved me in a very platonic way, and this was one of the main reasons she didnāt have any desire for intimacy and let alone sex.
This was very shocking to me and quite frankly, I was devastated. I because angry and depressed and I couldn't fathom the thought that I was no longer wanted or desired by the person I felt completely in love with. Things began to deteriorate again and not long after, we were back to square one. I sat down with her one afternoon and had a heart to heart and began to ask questions about where the root of this problem lies, and her answer was "I don't know" and that "I have built up resentment towards you but I don't know where it stems from." As you can imagine, this provides very little to no insight into how to approach this.
I'm puzzled, I'm frustrated and I do not know what to do at this point. Currently, we've arrived at a place where she says that she has no sex drive and no desire for intimacy or connection. She says that all she wants is simply "companionship" which basically means our coparenting roommate dynamic. I asked her what I could possibly do or what is it about me that is so unattractive or undesirable and she her response is always "I don't know." She stated that she does "love" me but its not the same. That she has been feeling disconnected for years and that our marriage just takes up too much work. Her focus is only the children for now and that my coparenting contributions are "meaningful" to her in our home.
I'm at a loss and I'm mainly venting about my frustration. It's tough to realize that the person you love has no feelings for you. I feel like at this point I'm only here to contribute financially and as a parent. I feel like what she means with "companionship" is that she's comfortable with the convenience of having a good father for our kids and my financial contribution to the household.
In regard to intimacy and/or sex, she basically told me that its not something sheās interested in or wants at this time. She mentioned that the only way to get to a point for any of that is to be intoxicated which o believe is incredibly awful and very wrong. I told her I do not think forcing herself to have sex or be intimate by drinking or smoking is good and I declined to be a part of that which to my surprise, it upset her and made her more distant.
We're both extremely honest and transparent. We've never cheated on each other and we are always free to look through each others phones, emails, socials, etc. and we hardly ever do. I asked her if there was someone else and she declined. Honestly, I believe her. We then peacefully went through each otherās things and as expected, it was clean. We've always been very forward, even with the hard topics so I don't smell nor feel any foul play or infidelity.
Am I wrong for declining to only be intimate or have sex when sheās intoxicated? (I'm firm on my stance of not partaking in this "only when I'm high or drunk" sex because it doesnāt sit well with me.) I do not know how to help our situation and I'm starting to become a bit anxious and desperate. We're both fairly young and healthy individuals and good looking. We both have good standing careers and are good parents. I'm just not sure how our lives could have driven us to this point. I'd love some outside perspective on this matter and some insight on how to address something like this. It feels so awful to be unwanted and undesired by my own spouse. I hate it.
tl;dr: My wife of 15+ years is no longer in love with me and doesnāt know way and now says she can only have sex while intoxicated or I need to settle for a platonic sexless marriage and she doesnāt know why that is but it is what it is and I'm in need of insight or advice.
Comments
Warthog__
From your comment history it looks like you are Swingers? If so, I would think that would be relevant information to consider.
OOP: We did some swinging in the past. That was fun for some time. We mutually decided to stop doing it and we have established itās not the case. When we were swinging however, our marriage seemed to be in a good place. This IS something we did disclose with our couple therapist and made sure to include it to make sure weāre not neglecting an obvious potential issue.
I will say, I did ask my wife if what she experienced during swinging is something that is affecting her view on our relationship and she said it wasnāt. Our swinging experience was always together and it was very sex driven. Nothing really emotional or āpolyā. Truth is, I have to believe her at her word. I have no reason to distrust her. To date, sheās always been very forward and never afraid of dealing things head on. No matter how painful.
failedopportunities
Itās an obvious potential issue broā¦ wether it be sheās enjoying herself a side piece and wants nothing to do with you in that manner anymore. Or, she just went along with you on the swinging and never wanted to do it in the first place. Hence brings resentment. Regardless, should have been included in the initial post.
OOP: Swinging was her idea. Not mine. But I suppose I should have included it but I honestly believe her on it not being an issue. I donāt have any reason to distrust her. Maybe itās something she has to accept with her therapist or our couples therapist. Canāt really approach that with a solution if she doesnāt think it was a problem. IDK
BigIronBruce
She says that all she wants is simply "companionship" which basically means our coparenting roommate dynamic.That's only a marriage if you both agree it is. You're hoping she's going to wake up one day and feel different but she's basically said that's not going to happen and doesn't want to figure out why she feels that way. It seems like you tried several different ways to get to the bottom of it and she's either deflected or is being honest that she's not in love with you.
Am I wrong for declining to only be intimate or have sex when sheās intoxicated?I wouldn't do this, either, if that makes you feel better.
Will she be your best friend if you live elsewhere and have a relationship with somebody in love you. Probably not. Which makes the whole "best friend" speech feel like self-deception on her part.
I won't lie, if it were me, I'd get a divorce. She doesn't seem willing to do the work to fix the marriage and you can't fix it alone. She might promise to fix it or beg you not to but you need to follow your gut as to whether she actually can or will fix it. She's serious that she wants you to stick around but not necessarily as her husband.
OOP: A very hard truth to accept here. Thank youInteresting-Tip-4850
"Iām ensure I do everything possible to mend our marriage to ensure my own peace of mind and excite knowing I did everything I could."you may still concider 180 method, to protect yourself and perhaps in the same time the reality that the ship is leaving may start to change your wifes perspective. If that doesnt what else would.
OOP: Can you elaborate on the ā180 Methodā?Interesting-Tip-4850
Basically withold from any unnecesary interactions and affection. This is from an infidelity forum, but principles are the same https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/documents/library/articles/discovery/the-simplified-180/
OOP: I bookmarked this. Iām heavily considering this.
Update - 8 days later
I wanted to give you guys an update of how the therapy session with my wife went this week. Not sure if this is helpful or not but I took many of the responses/comments/suggestions from my initial post and put together some things I wanted to discuss with our couples therapist to help us navigate some of the core issues that may be affecting this situation.
One of the main things that is the "buzz word" of this has been the term "resentment" and it has been really eating me up inside knowing my wife keeps telling me she doesn't know why she's resentful or doesn't know why this is affecting her emotionally/mentally. I brought this up with our therapist once again and resurfaced the conversation about being married for so long (15yrs) and being together since we ere 14yrs old. Our long history of growing up and how having children when she was 19yrs old (me 20) significantly changed the trajectory of our lives.
We experience severe poverty and many hardships in the process and we essentially had zero social life for the past 10 years because we were so busy raising babies (2 kids now ages 12 &14). She followed up with tons of questions directly mostly at my wife about her feelings towards this and 90% of the responses were very "our kids" focused. It definitely felt like she was afraid of saying "yes it sucked" because she would feel guilt or shame because it would imply she regrets the kids.
I mentioned this in the session and the therapist encouraged her to look at this outside of the lens of being a mother and to try to view it a bit more selfishly and individually and it was very eye opening. My wife mentioned that she was very frustrated with the fact that we did miss out on many things in life. She also was very clear in saying "I do not think I missed out on other partners or dating or partying but I certainly lost all my friends." This was huge because one of the big pieces that has caused a strain in our lives is how silo'd and isolated we've been (again busy raising kids). I followed up by reminding her that it's important to have good friends and to make time for herself and her friendships.
For the past 3+ years, we've had multiple conversations about friends and how it is important to have them in life. Specially when you have similar peers that can help in many areas of life that perhaps we have no experience navigating and even simply for enjoyment. It has always been something my wife avoids, even though she's always been someone who needs that external stimuli. The main reason for her not investing in friends or even herself has always been "the kids." Like I mentioned earlier in this post, 90% of the answers have to relate to "the kids" to some degree.
At this point in our session I started to feel like there was a common denominator (the kids) in most of the frustrations and problems she was experiencing. So I simply asked her "Do you think you may be upset at me because I'm responsible for these kids in the sense that I got you pregnant so young?" I wasn't ready but she said that she was upset at me for that. She also followed up with the fact that she knows that's unreasonable because it "takes 2 to tango." I did feel like it was progress because it kind of gave us something to work on and help alleviate some of these "burdens" so we agreed to invest more time in nurturing good friendships both together and individually.
Towards the end of the session, we began to discuss what actionable items we would take from this session. At this point, it was still all very ambiguous and blurry as to what the outcomes were. I was very direct and very forward in asking my wife what her plan is moving forward. (NOTE: I had decided prior to the session that should my wife say the same thing about being a coparenting roommate that I would take the 180 approach and essentially do me) She started basically saying the same thing, that she doesn't have any desire to be intimate or sexual with me as of now and that she loves me immensely and she feels bad for not being there for me (as mentioned in my first post).
I also brought up the brief swinging that happened, to which for the 50th time said it wasn't a problem. I agree with her on this. This was something that was a "mechanical" approach for a solution to a problem that was very much in existent when we tried this. We (both) really have no issue to this. We know it happened, we tried it and mutually stopped and turned the page.
I also brought up other life events that may cause resentment and really we ended up not getting anywhere else as far as the root for resentment which was discouraging.
I then basically expressed to my wife that I will not be ok with that arrangement. I told her that I've really done everything I can and that this issue really has reached a point where it has nothing to do with me or require me to do anything that I'm currently not doing. I was very direct and saying that I will not be accepting this dynamic and that I need to be with someone who is actively involved in our marriage, works towards resolutions and is very much interested in maintaining an active intimacy and sexual relationship.
I expressed how I am not going to be a "convenience" and that there was more to life than being roommates and coparents. I made sure she knows I love her dearly and that I do want this to work for the better. I also told her that I'm fully committed to this marriage so long as she is as well and that is she wasn't, its ok, however I will not be a part of something where these efforts are not reciprocated. I told her I have no plans of leaving, and I do not want a divorce, however, I made it clear that if this dynamic continues that divorce will be the only outcome.
Of course tears were involved and it was a very bleak and sad ending to the session. Still nothing was said and I walked out very discouraged and very determined to start working on the 180 as soon as we left the room. It's painful and very difficult because much of the 180 requires you to be very short and cold and transactional. The saddest part is realizing, this dynamic already is very cold and transactional.
Here is where it gets VERY interesting. I started working on implementing many of the 180 recommendations that same day. I mentioned to my wife that, "hey, things are going to be a bit different moving forward. I'm going to honor her roommate/coparent dynamic without reproach and that it should be no mistake that I am not happy here and I am never going to be ok with it but I am done working on it if she wasn't going to work on it."
She agreed and went to bed. I started to build distance and started to basically focus on myself. Very short and transactional. She asked for help on some of her personal things to which I declined and it really shocked her. She was upset saying I was being petulant. I explained to her that, she is now fully in charge of her own life and her own issues.
We didn't talk all day and we only spoke when necessary. Few days I keep this going and she's very visibly upset and stressed. I typically react to that with gestures of help or nurturing but I didn't this time. That night she was crying telling me she's stressed and she things something is wrong with me because I'm "indifferent." I simply listened, then I told her that this is the dynamic she proposed and that I'm simply (much like her) taking care of myself and focusing on myself.
I'm not going to lie, it has been VERY hard to be cold and distant because as I mentioned before, I love her and I wish I could hold her and love on her. However, I know this is somewhat manipulative in a way just to get her way and still keep me in the friendzone. So I've been staying the course.
We're now going on a week of this 180 and let just say, there has been MANY changes on her side. I think she is starting to realize there is more to me than just "friends and coparenting." I sent her a text a few days ago essentially itemizing bills and separating the financial responsibilities 50/50 and SHE LOST HER SHIT. She basically told me it was "out of left field" to which I responded "hey, friends go in 50/50 and as your friend I expect nothing less."
This was very eye opening because it gave me a glimpse of I'm really taken for granted and how her level of comfort and convenience at my expense is really overlooked. I pushed through anyways and basically told her that this is the new dynamic she asked for and that its still a "bargain" because she would have to be 100% if she was on her own.
I'll wrap up with this. While the 180 has been working in many different areas, I am still very much sad about the overall situation. There have been MANY eye opening statements being said and realization that have not been pleasant to encounter. It has also sparked new energy and new efforts on her side as well. She's definitely seeking to talk to me more often and while its hard to turn down, I hope if things improve, this continues to happen.
I've also noticed that she's making more time for herself aside from being a mom which is HUGE because she pretty much neglected herself for years. I'm very pleased seeing her be more herself. My hope is that as we work on ourselves, the marriage improves. There really is no telling at this point where this will go. We are very much cordial and amicable even to this day and that's a very good sign.
Boundaries are set and expectations are very clear and I feel that no matter the outcome, I will be at peace with everything that has been done. We're still going to continue the couples therapist until we either rekindle our marriage or end up in divorce. I feel like having this nonbiased third party really helps as a witness and as a guide through this. No matter what I will always love my wife, however, I will not participate in a sexless, intimacy less marriage because we both deserve better.
Thank you all for all the kind words and recommendations and feedback. This will be my last post on this topic and I wish you all the best.
TL;DR: My wife friend-zoned me wants to just coparent at my expense but I started the 180 method to try and find a solution because she doesn't want to work on us which seems to be working on getting her out of her rut and helping me discover more about how she feels. Also, therapy is paramount and highly recommend to all couples.
Comments
Complete-Old-1960
Bottom line and not to be brutal, but there is one thing you don't have infinite amount of, is TIME. This has to be resolved in a timely manner. It takes 2 to be in love and to be loved, and u only have Ā½ of the equation. You need to put a time limit on you being the good guy and think of you and your future. Look hope it works out for you, but listening to what you are going through and what you could be in for you can still be a good father but also be a great husband to another wife if you find that special person again.
OOP: Definitely. I think this āsoft ultimatumā (180 method) has been very eye opening. Iām definitely hoping for a rekindling of our marriage but Iām also bracing for divorce. I agree on a timeline and Iāve decided on a timeline for myself privately. I donāt want to give her a timeline because I want to reduce the pressure, however, after 1-2 yrs of things donāt improve, it wonāt be shocking or a surprise if we split. I think 1-2yrs is more than reasonable.
shes_a_killer
I have to agree with this, simply because at some point, the person who has gone 180 and is waiting for the other person to decide will begin to wonder, "Wow, they're really taking their time coming around to me...did they love me at all? If they ever appreciated and cared for me, why would they keep me waiting and neglecting me for so long?" Except, in my case, it had more to do with the other person being stubborn and unable to admit their faults.
OOP: I understand what you mean. I donāt think Iāll ever doubt she loved me at all. Iām certain she did and Iām certain she still does. I know it sounds crazy and Iām not at all infatuated or blinded by love. Love is far more than the intimacy and sex weāre lacking.
RandyPan_theGoatBoy
I think itās interesting that in the comments of your original post you said you didnāt think she was taking you for granted but you came to realize she absolutely was. Can you give some more details on what the 180 method is?
OOP: Yeah, I definitely felt this way. But with this 180 method itās happening right in front of my eyes. Actual actions and reactions taking place that clearly demonstrate that she is taking me for granted. She actually see this as well. Itās evident sheās thinking about this heavily based on her demeanor and her behavior.
Hereās what I used as a guide:
https://beingabeautifulmess.wordpress.com/the-180/
https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/documents/library/articles/discovery/the-simplified-180/
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2024.05.21 15:01 FelicitySmoak_ Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - Jackson v. AEG Live Day 15
 | Trial Day 15 submitted by FelicitySmoak_ to WhereWasMJToday [link] [comments] Katherine, Rebbie and Trent Jackson are at court. LA Times reported that the Jacksons offered a settlement. Kevin Boyle , a lawyer for Katherine Jackson and Michael's kids , said they offered to settle the lawsuit against AEG, but that they never got an answer. Kevin Boyle said the family made the offers in January & March. Boyle would not provide details but said AEG's insurance would have paid, which means they could have settled the case without them paying a dime of their money. He said AEG has never offered to settle & they haven't apologized. Marvin Putnam, an attorney for AEG, said it was inappropriate to discuss settlement discussions: "We don't settle matters that are utterly baseless. We believe that is the case in this matter. I can't see why we would consider a settlement as anything other than a shakedown"CNN Reports there was a snack controversy during trial: AEG lawyers gave a bag of peppermint candy to the bailiff to hand out to the jury this week. Even Katherine Jackson enjoyed the treat but Jackson's lawyer raised an objection, suggesting jurors might be influenced if they realized the source of the sweets. A compromise was reached. Each side can provide snacks for jurors, but they'll be placed at the bailiff's desk before jurors enter court so they have no clue who brought it. Shawn Trell Testimony Jackson direct AEG Live General Counsel, Shawn Trell, told jurors that he had forgotten that Kenny Ortega was working under a signed contract. Trell said he met with his attorneys last night and reviewed one doc -- Kenny Ortega's contract. "He had a written contract," Trell said. "I remember the email dynamic. I'm not too proud to admit that I didn't recall the cover contract," Trell said he was changing his previous testimony to add that Ortega had a written contract, not only emails between him and AEGNext topic was Insurance: Cancellation/Non-Appearance/Sickness. Trell said he started working on insurance for the tour in November of 2008. Panish showed several chains of emails where the parties talked about the insurance for the tour Email from Bob Taylor insurance broker to Trell on 1/7/09: "Prior to speaking with carriers we ask the artist to attend medical with a doctor...A full medical with both blood/urine tests. The doctor also wants to review the medical records over the last 5 years to ensure full disclosure. Insurers require further medical examination to be carried out by their nominated doctor. They may restrict illness coverage or death from illness coverage until this examination has taken place"Email from 4/30/09 - Wooley to Trell : "We have no coverage against Michael sickness unless and until he submits to another medical in LondonEmail from 5/28/09 - Trell to Taylor: "We really need to get that medical done"Email from 6/23/09 - Trell to Taylor : "Any update on the availability of Term insurance?" (life insurance)Trell said if they secured life insurance, they would get money if Michael died. "We would get the money owed to us, yes," Trell testified.Trell also said he continued discussions with an insurance broker about additional coverage to recoup AEG Live's investment if the tour had to be canceled. Email from 6/24/09 -Taylor to Trell : "Insurers have refused to move on this. Huge amount of speculation in the media regarding artist's health. They feel if they're to consider providing illness to cover this particular artist, they must have very through medical report"Email from 6/25/09 - Gongaware to Taylor : "If we don't get sickness coverage, we are dropping this policy"Email from 6/25/09 - Taylor to Gongaware : "The consultation in London is critical. The doctor is holding the afternoon of the 6th July open at Harley St. But keep in mind the visit could take 2 hours plus"Next topic: Budget/Costs. Panish showed an email from AEG's Rick Webking to Michael's estate with 1st report of artist advances/expenses. This was a letter sent to the estate containing the expenses incurred, Trell said. "It seems to me we submitted this report for their review, I don't see any request for payment," Trell said.Trell said he spoke with Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware about Michael's physical condition prior to coming to testify. "I had heard about rehearsals in which Mr. Jackson was fantastic," Trell saidTrell said he's aware of email from Ortega saying doctor was not allowing Michael to attend rehearsal on June 14, 2009. "I was aware of the doctor not allowing him to attend rehearsal," Trell saidEmail from 6/17/09 from Phillips: "...Ortega, Gongaware, Dileo, and his doctor Conrad from Vegas and I have an intervention with him to get him to focus and come to rehearsal"Email from 6/17/09 from Gongaware to Phillip's assistant: "We need a physical therapist and a nutritionist"Email from Production Manager - Gongaware/Phillips on 6/19/09 : "Paul/Randy I'm not bring a drama queen here. Kenny asked me to notify you both Michael was sent home without stepping foot on stage. He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet, be hurt. The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive"Email from Randy Phillips to Tim Leiweke on 6/19/09 : "We have a huge problem here."Trell agreed with a statement by plaintiff's attorney, Brian Panish, that company executives knew by then there was a "deep issue" with Jackson Does Trell consider that exchange a "red flag" that AEG Live should have noticed, Panish asked. "I would take it seriously, as I believe Mr. Phillips did," Trell answered. "I don't know I would use the word 'red flag'One of the emails shown to the jury was from Jackson estate co-executor John Branca, sent 5 days before Jackson's death & marked 'confidential': "I have the right therapist/spiritual advisosubstance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped Mike Tyson get sober and paroled) Do we know whether there is a substance issue involved (perhaps better discussed on the phone)The email was sent the same day that a meeting was held at Jackson's home with Murray. No further info given to jury. Trell said Mr. Phillips never told him about this email Email from Ortega to Randy Phillips on 6/20/09: (chain of emails) "I honestly don't think he is ready for this based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state"Trell said he didn't see these emails. He said he spoke with Randy Phillips about Phillips' perception of Michael, in order to prepare for testifying, but not about specific emails. Trell has been designated as the most qualified person to speak on behalf of AEG Email from Phillips to Gongaware on 6/20/09 at 1:52 am : "Tim and I are going to see him tomorrow, however, I'm not sure what the problem is Chemical or Physiological?"From Gongaware to Phillips, on 6/20/09 at 5:59 am : "Take the doctor with you. Why wasn't he there last night?"From Phillips to Gongaware, on 6/20/09 at 2:01 pm : "He is not a psychiatrist so I'm not sure how effective he can be at this point obviously, getting him there is not the issue. It is much deeper"Trell said Randy Phillips went to a handful of rehearsals, three at the Forum and two at Staples Center. The head of the marketing department attended rehearsal on June 23, 2009. "She was blown away by it," Trell testified.He said he was unaware of issues with Jackson at rehearsals. "I knew of no problems with Michael Jackson at all",Trell testified.Trell said he never saw the emails from Phillips directing people to exclude images from This Is It of Michael looking "skeletal" while rehearsing. "What were his observations of Michael's physical condition during rehearsal," Trell said. "I asked for his (Phillips) personal opinion."Next line of questioning is about human resources and background checks. Trell said they can be valuable and useful tools when hiring. Background check costs around $40 to $125. Trell said AEG Live could afford this fee. "We don't do background checks on independent contractors," Trell said. Trell said he was involved in the hiring by AEG Live for the This Is It tour. His department was responsible for retaining independent contractors. Trell said he is not familiar with background check process for hiring. "I am not familiar with the process of doing background checks," Trell said. "No training." Panish: "There was no hiring criteria for the This Is It tour, correct?"Trell: "Not to my knowledge" Trell testified that when it comes to independent contractors, they have either worked with the artists, AEG or known in the industry. Trell agreed that no background check was done on anyone working on the This Is It tour. AEG Live General Counsel Shawn Trell told jurors that no legal or financial checks were done involving Conrad Murray or anyone else who worked as an independent contractor on the This Is It shows. Depending on the nature of the position, a background could be done, Trell said, like for potential employees in the financial area. Trell said he thought a background check would be appropriate for people working in financial roles, but not tour personnel who weren't employees of AEG As to independent contractors, Trell said there's no supervision and monitoring like there's for employees Panish: "You don't do anything to check into background, supervise or protect the artist?"Trell: "No, safety is a concern" Trell said that AEG did not hire Murray, that the doctor was like many independent contractors, "When they leave the environment, what they do on their own time is their own business"Trell testified he doesn't believe the artist is more at risk because AEG Live doesn't do background checks "We did nothing to monitor Dr. Murray," Trell said. "We did not monitor whatever it was that he was doing, no.""It called for Michael Jackson being able to terminate Dr. Murray at will," Trell said about the contract. "If the concerts didn't go forward, and he was terminated under this provision, Dr. Murray would not be paid going forward," Trell explained As to Dr Murray being under dire financial straits, Trell said that he doesn't know if he agrees with it, everyone's perception is different Trell: "I certainly wasn't aware of it at the time"Panish: "Because you didn't check, right?" Trell: "That's right" "I don't think conflict of interests are a good thing, and we would want to prevent it," Trell said Email from Kathy Jorie to Shawn Trell on 6/24/09 at 12:54 am: Subject: Revised agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. MurrayIt had two attachments Attachments: Revised Michael Jackson -AEG GCA Holdings Murray Agreement 6-18-09 Final MJ -- AEG GCA Holdings Agreement (Dr. Murray) 6-23-09Email chain from 6/23/09, 5:39pm from Jorrie to Wooley, Murray Subject: RE: Michael Jackson - Revised Agreement with GCA Holdings/Dr. Murray Email:"I have redlined the Word version so that you can see all of the revisions. In addition, I've attached clean PDF version for execution" (The email says that if Dr. Murray approved it, he was to print it, sign and send it back to Jorrie) Panish: "Did Ms. Jorrie call this contract a draft?"Trell: "She called it a Final Version" "Every document is a draft until it is executed," Trell said. Panish showed emails exchanged among AEG executives that contained drafts of Murray's contract. Although Murray had signed a contract with the company, neither Jackson nor anyone from AEG had added their signatures. Trell testified that a copy of the contract had never been sent to Jackson With Trell on the stand, Panish played part of an interview that AEG Live President Randy Phillips gave to Sky News television soon after Michael's death. "This guy was willing to leave his practice for a very large sum of money, so we hired him," Phillips said.Panish also showed jurors an e-mail between AEG lawyers suggesting that Phillips told other interviewers AEG Live "hired" Murray. Panish: "Isn't it true that Randy Phillips made numerous comments that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray?"Trell: "I know he has made that statement" Panish said AEG higher-ups became concerned after Phillips made such admission. Trell said he didn't know if that was true. Bruce Black is the General Counsel for parent company of AEG and AEG Live. Michael Roth is AEG's media relations Email from Kathy Jorrie to Bruce Black and Michael Roth on 8/25/09: Subject: AEG Live president says AEG Live hired Dr. Conrad MurrayPanish shows Trell a deposition, under oath, given by insurance broker Bob Taylor on another case. Trell said he has never seen or read it. Trell denied having a telephone conversation with Mr. Taylor where Trell asked him if a doctor's compensation was covered in the insurance. Panish: "Does that refresh your recollection that AEG was employing Dr. Murray?"Trell: "Mr. Taylor has this completely wrong" After lunch break, Brian Panish asked if Shawn Trell wanted to change anything else in his testimony, to which he said "No" Bruce Black, attorney for Anschutz, was present in the meeting with LAPD. Trell met with the police on 1/12/10. Trell told the police that day that Dr. Murray would receive $150,000 compensation per month. Trell also said that Dr. Murray requested and AEG would provide necessary medical equipment and a nurse. More than five months after Jackson's death, Trell said, he informed LAPD detectives that Murray initially requested $5 million to join the tour but eventually agreed to a salary of $150,000 a month for 10 months. Panish: "As far as you know, all the agreements written for TII tour was done under AEG Live Productions, right?"Trell: "Yes" Panish: "Was Dr. Murray trying to help AEG get insurance?" Trell: "The policy was in both names, so he was helping both parties" Trell said Dennis Hawk, who represented Michael, was in touch with Taylor regarding the insurance Panish: "As of June 2009, you don't even know whether Mr. Jackson had a personal managerTrell: "Well, my understanding at the time there were a couple of people acting in that capacity" Email on 6/2/09 from Randy Phillips to Jeff Wald: "Jeff, remember getting Michael to focus is not the easiest thing in the world and we still have no lawyer, business manager, or, even real manager in place. It is a nightmare!"Trell said the only time he saw an artist's signature required to retain an independent contractor was for Dr. Murray. Trell said his understanding was that Dr. Murray worked for Michael for 3 years; didn't know how many times MJ saw Dr. Murray. "I've never spoken with Dr. Murray ever. And I met/spoke with Mr. Jackson once," Trell said. "He was a significant expense," Trell testified about Dr. Murray.Trell said AEG Live didn't do anything to check Dr. Murray's competency as doctor, other than checking his physician license. Trell said AEG didn't do anything to determine Dr. Murray's financial conditions in 2009. Jury was shown an email that Phillips sent to Kenny Ortega on night of June 20, 2009. It was email urging Ortega to stand down. Email on 6/20/09 Phillips to Ortega : "Kenny it's critical that neither you, me, anyone around this show become amateur psychiatrist/physicians. I had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray, who I am gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more. He said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform & discouraging him to will hasten his decline instead of stopping it. Dr. Murray also reiterated that he is mentally able to and was speaking to me from the house where he had spent the morning with Michael. This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he is totally unbiased and ethical"Panish asked Trell whether Phillips "characterization to Ortega, given no background check was done, was a lie". Trell responded that he didn't know what Phillips knew or was thinking when he wrote that email to Ortega. Trell also said he expected Randy Phillips to testify at some point during the trial, so he could address the email himself Panish then asked Trell, "Sir, you never checked out one single thing about Dr. Murray -- you've already told me that, correct?""As of the date of the email, that would've been correct",Trell said. When pressed by Panish, Trell said that Phillips' statement that Murray had been checked out, along with the executive's claim that the doctor 'does not need this gig' were inaccurate. "I don't know where Randy's understanding or impression comes from", Trell said.Trell testified that Phillips might have been "misinformed" or simply was stating his impression of the Las Vegas cardiologist Panish: "But no one at AEG checked Dr. Murray to see if he was successful or not, isn't that true?"Trell: "Yes" Panish then asked several pointed questions about whether Shawn Trell agreed with Phillips telling Ortega they'd checked Murray out. One of Panish's questions was whether Trell thought Phillips' email was 'acceptable conduct' Panish called Phillips' statement "a flat out lie" and asked Trell whether he agreed with it or if it signified how AEG did business. Trell said he didn't know what Phillips thought he knew when he wrote the message. "I know this statement is not accurate, but you'd have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he thought or meant in saying it," Trell said. Panish: "That's a flat out lie, isn't it sir?"Trell: "I don't know what Mr. Phillips intended to say, this should be a question to him" Panish: "You don't know if he was successful or facing bankruptcy, did you?" Trell: "No" Trell: "I know the statement is not accurate. You have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he meant to say" Panish: "Do you agree with the CEO of your company making untrue statements?" Trell: "I don't know that he didn't know it wasn't true when he said it" Trell said Phillips never told him that he checked Dr. Murray out. As to reference in Phillips' email about Dr. Murray being unbiased, ethical, not needing this gig, Trell said it was Phillips' impressions. He said AEG typically only runs background checks on candidates applying for full-time jobs with AEG, not independent contractors. Panish: "Isn't it true AEG Live does not do background check on independent contractors?"Trell: "That's true" Trell said that no one from AEG interviewed Dr. Murray because he was an independent contractor. "Did anyone from AEG ever at any time interview Dr. Murray", asked Brian Panish"No", Trell replied. Panish showed a document used by AEG entitled "Disclosure and Authorization to Conduct Background Check". Doc is used for employment, promotion, retention, contingent or the rate staffing, consulting, sub-contract work, or volunteer work. Panish asked if there was any reason why Dr. Murray was not given a background check. "He wasn't an employee, he wasn't applying for a full time position with the company," Trell explained.Trell said theoretically they could've asked to check Dr. Murray's background and credit. AEG Cross Jessica Bina began her examination by showing the letter submitted by AEG's CFO to the Estate of Michael Jackson for their review. She asked Shawn Trell about the estimate presented to Jackson's estate that included Murray's $300k fees. She asked why it was prepared. Shawn Trell said it was done at the request of the estate. He said Jackson's estate wanted to know state of tour finances when Jackson died. Trell said the report was requested by the Estate after a series of meetings after Michael's death. "The purpose of the meeting was to wind up the business affairs of the tour due to Michael's death", Trell said. "It was my understating in June Tohme was back in the picture in some capacity. I'm not sure which, Mr. DiLeo was in it too," Trell saidBina: "Is there any request for payment?" Trell: "No, there's no demand for payment, it's for review" Stebbins Bina asked about the inclusion of Murray's fee in the document. Bina showed the report that was attached to the letter. Murray's fee on the document had a footnote. Trell read what that footnote said, and explained why estate wasn't asked for Murray's fee. Next to "Management Medical" there's a reference to footnote 3. Note 3: 'Contract is not signed by Michael Jackson and such signature was condition precedent to any payment obligation' - Footnote on Murray fee.Trell testified Webking, the CFO for AEG, did not ask Michael's Estate for payment of Dr. Murray's salary "You testified you were somewhat confused (by the inclusion of the $300,000)?", Bina asked Trell as she projected the list, dated July 17, 2009, on a screen for jurors."Do you see there's something in parentheses?', Stebbins Bina asked, zooming in to blow up a footnote from AEG CFO Frederick Webking that stated Michael Jackson never signed Murray's contract, so its terms were not enforceable. "Is Mr. Webking asking the estate to pay?", Stebbins Bina asked Trell. "No", he replied, explaining that upon reflection he believed Mr. Webking was just being 'thorough' by including the $300,000 as a budgeted cost. "Did Mr. Webking make a mistake as you thought yesterday?",she asked. "No, he did not", Trell answered Second report made to the Estate on 9/18/09, there was no amount next to management medical. Stebbins Bina then showed a Sept. 2009 report of This Is It's finances to Michael Jackson's estate. Murray's fee is not listed in that document Trell went through his job description with AEG. He said he has five lawyers in his department and has worked on thousands of agreements. Trell explained what PMK is -- Person Most Knowledgeable, identified by the company to testify on its behalf. Trell said he didn't know about all the topics he was designated, so he had to do some studying and interviews with people As to Ortega's contract, Trell said he was aware of a string of emails being at least a part of the original agreement with Kenny. "When we were done here yesterday, I looked at Kenny Ortega's original agreement," Trell said.Trell noted he hadn't looked at Ortega's agreement since it was entered into in 2009. Before the afternoon break, Trell and jury were shown Kenny Ortega's tour agreement. It was signed in April 2009. The agreement was three pages of legalese, with several pages of emails attached that confirmed the terms. The first three pages included some paragraphs that described who owned the rights to This Is It content. A large number of emails are part of the agreement as exhibits. Trell said he recalled the emails exchange and admitted again not being proud of forgetting the cover contract portion. Bina showed Ortega's executed contract with everyone's signature on it. Trell said Kenny Ortega was paid after his contract was signed. Trell, Phillips and Kathy Jorrie were involved in drafting and negotiating the contract with Michael Jackson. For MJ, Trell said Dr. Tohme Tohme and attorneys Dennis Hawk and Peter Lopez represented him. He said there were multiple drafts. "It's my understanding they were talking to, or at least receiving offers from, a competitive of ours, Live Nation," Trell said.Trell also said that before signing an agreement with AEG, Jackson had been considering a tour offer from its main competitor, Live Nation. Bina showed the jury the final tour agreement. Trell said he went to MJ's home at Carolwood to sign it. Upon arrival, Trell said Mr. Jackson got up from where he was seated, and said 'Hi, welcome, I'm Michael." Trell said it was pretty funny, since he was a very distinct person. Trell said they shook hands, he had a good firm handshake and his voice was not what people think "He popped up, came over, introduced himself, was very cordial, there was a real positive energy, good vibe in the room," Trell said. "He seemed genuinely enthused," Trell added. "He had the contract in front of him, said he read every page, seemed very enthused." Trell said they all signed it and Mr. Jackson was really keen on the 3-D stuff, that he was already down the road in his mind. "I was probably there just a little less than an hour. And that was the only time I met him," Trell recalled.Bina discussed the contract for the tour agreement: A first class performance by Artist at each show on each of the approved itineraries. Contract: Artist shall perform no less than 80 minutes at each show, and the maximum show length for each show shall be 3.5 hours. Artist shall approve a sufficient number of shows on itineraries proposed by promoter or producer as to recoup the advances made.Trell said compensation was agreed on 90-10 split. Artist received 90% of what's defined contingent compensation. Trell explained to jury how concerts get paid for. One scenario is artist pays for production up front. A second scenario is that the promoter gives artist an advance, and then they use the money to put together the show. The third option, Trell said, is the artist pays someone like AEG Live to produce and promote the show, with costs to come out of their pay. Trell called the second and third option like an interest-free loan. In Jackson's case, AEG agreed to a 90/10 split of show's proceeds. Jackson would have received the 90% portion, Trell said. Jackson was also on the hook for a 5% production fee AEG Live was promoter & producer. "We advanced the money necessary to mount the tour," Trell explained. "It's interest free money".Trell testified that Jackson's advance, which covered his $100,000-a-month rent on his mansion and a $3-million payment to settle a lawsuit that would free up his performance rights, was considered a loan to be paid back to AEG. Part of the advance was to pay off the settlement agreement of $3 million in London court. The underlying dispute was that a company owned the rights for Jackson's live performance. "The rights needed to be freed up," Trell said.The advances were to be paid back to AEG Live before the split of revenue. Production Advances were capped to $7.5 million. Contract: Artist was responsible for all the production costs in excess of the cap and had to reimburse promoter. "Michael Jackson was known to have very elaborate productions," Trell said. "Production values can get significant, for lack of a better word, it really depends on how many bells and whistles they want," Trell said.Trell said AEG would not advance money without the artist requesting it. Trell said it's not only typical and customary, but standard and artist needs to secure either non-appearance or cancellation insurance. Their interest in the policy, Trell said, was to cover the advances and production costs incurred with the production of the show. "If the were no obligations to AEG, the payout would go back to the artist", Trell explained, "It just recoups our loan made to the artist."Trell was also asked about elements of tour insurance policies and an agreement with former manager Tohme Tohme. Jackson's contract called for him to represent to AEG that he didn't have any health conditions that would keep him from performing. Contract: Artistco hereby represents and warrants that artist does not possess any known health conditions, injuries or ailments that would reasonable be expected to interfere with Artist's first class performance at each of the shows during the termOh Tohme's $100k per month agreement, Trell was shown a January contract that Jackson signed to pay that amount. However, Trell said Tohme's agreement was predicated on Jackson getting tour cancellation insurance by a certain date. Deadline passed and by that point Tohme was no longer Jackson's manager, so he wasn't entitled to be paid his monthly fee. January 24, 2009 -- agreement entered with Dr. Tohme Tohme. Trell said Michael was involved and signed this agreement. "This agreement was entered into January 26, Trell testified. "There are conditions that needed to be met before any payment could be made."One of the the conditions was placement of non-appearance insurance, Trell said. That placement was done in late April, early May. In May, AEG received letter from MJ saying Tohme didn't rep him anymore. "No payments were ever made under this agreement," Trell explained.Court Transcript Rebbie Jackson attending court https://preview.redd.it/mmatrsug5o1d1.jpg?width=443&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2bb18c8e5e6bca215719208409346bccaf96bc4 https://preview.redd.it/h6ywhnug5o1d1.jpg?width=443&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4576d97371141a308ad6300fb33400f28ed009e3 https://preview.redd.it/wd14srug5o1d1.jpg?width=508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31ded1abac7f1916fc67b5d0b264dd231b96f275 https://preview.redd.it/pvrb3vug5o1d1.jpg?width=423&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e4e93a20eccf030747d4ee60a95365b5e41e9ce https://preview.redd.it/yexbwrug5o1d1.jpg?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c26155b8478e7c48f8863d946b836f1ab2a13fe8 https://preview.redd.it/o6nzk0vg5o1d1.jpg?width=483&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f146baaaa738ec5fe700fa42aaf58e138f21165f https://preview.redd.it/vuozioug5o1d1.jpg?width=431&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f229517cb96a8f80571439f6f0e27f8c6c7852bc |
2024.05.21 15:00 confidentbutsleepy How Do You Handle Being 'Tested' in Dating? I Think It's Absolutely WILD!
TL;DR: Matched with a seemingly great guy on Bumble, hit it off well, moved to texting and phone calls, only to have him "test" me on our first disagreement about who should pay on dates. Despite forgiving him, he responded with hateful accusations, leaving me to move on from his manipulative behaviour.
Hey everyone,
I need some advice on a situation thatās been bothering me. Hereās the full story:
I (32) matched with this guy (37) on Bumble recently, and we hit it off immediately. We spent hours texting and eventually, we moved to a phone call that lasted several hours. We got along so well that he mentioned he would have liked to take me out that day, but he already had plans with his friends to watch an F1 race and a football match. I appreciated his honesty and told him it was fine, and we continued talking throughout the day, even while he was with his friends. It was going SPLENDIDLY!
However, out of nowhere, he made a condescending comment about my Instagram, saying it looks like heād have to sell a kidney to take a girl like me out. I found it extremely offensive and told him that while Iām financially comfortable and can pay for myself, I do have standards when it comes to dating. I expect a man who asks me out on a date to be willing to pay for it. If a man doesnāt pay, I see it as going out as friends, and I wouldnāt consider a second date. He then doubled down, saying he was new in town and unsure where to take me because I seemed to have an extravagant lifestyle.
I clarified that I didnāt expect an extravagant first date and had a favourite bar in mind thatās quite economical due to my regular patron status there. But I wasn't sure if I was interested in moving forward with him because this had gotten too weird and uncomfortable for me.
He then admitted he was TESTING me because he has a lot of money and didnāt want to be used for it - Mentioning his FERRARI, while he was at it, which I had frankly assumed was a rental, I didn't give it a second thought or glance. He then said he was very disappointed in me accused me of being like other women who expect men to pay ā He called me a Gold Digger in so many words. I found this extremely manipulative, insulting, offensive and downright disrespectful and told him so and asked him to fuck right off! Just for the record - I am also rather well-off. Not only do I make decent money, but my parents are also financially well-off.
Despite my frustration, he apologised profusely and asked for a second chance, claiming he was wrong to test me and that he genuinely wanted to get to know me better. I told him I appreciated the apology but couldnāt get past the disrespect and the implications of his ātest.ā I made it clear that his behaviour had made me feel judged and uncomfortable, and I didnāt see how we could move forward.
He kept insisting, saying we could laugh about this misunderstanding later and that heād make it up to me. I reiterated that I didnāt want to feel scrutinised or judged every time we interacted, and that this incident had soured my perception of him. I told him it was best to part ways and ended the conversation. He asked me to sleep on it, and I did.
The next morning, I sent him a text to formally close things off, but on a good note, saying:
"We definitely had a fun and interesting day, but we both know this isn't going to work out! I truly enjoyed our time together and our roller coaster of a conversation. Most people don't even have dates as fun and intriguing as this! But sadly, this is the end of the road for us. I do truly wish you the very best with everything, and I'm glad we ran into each other. Take care and be well! š"
He didnāt respond to that text, but he continued to view my Instagram stories, which I found really passive-aggressive. So, I followed up with:
"Hey, I noticed you didn't respond to my last message. I just wanted to say that I tried to be respectful and honour the conversation we had because I genuinely valued it. It would have meant a lot to hear back from you, even just a simple acknowledgment. Regardless, I wish you all the best."
His response to that was unexpectedly hostile. He accused me of being selfish and only caring about my own feelings. He claimed he had already responded to my earlier texts and accused me of being stubborn and ungrateful for the time he spent talking to me. His tone was rude and accusatory, which only reinforced my decision to end things.
I replied, explaining how his actions had made me feel judged and disrespected. I pointed out that despite enjoying our conversation, his test and subsequent behavior were major red flags. I told him I was disappointed by his hostility and that I was hoping for a more respectful closure.
He left my final message on āseenā and hasnāt responded since. Which is fine. Screw him.
I'm not looking for advice on how to get back with him. Iām just trying to process this and move on. Any tips on how to deal with such a disappointing end to what seemed like a promising connection? Because I hadn't been this super excited to go out in a VERY long time!
Thanks for reading.
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Hey everyone,
I need some advice on a situation thatās been bothering me. Hereās the full story:
I (32) matched with this guy (37) on Bumble recently, and we hit it off immediately. We spent hours texting and eventually, we moved to a phone call that lasted several hours. We got along so well that he mentioned he would have liked to take me out that day, but he already had plans with his friends to watch an F1 race and a football match. I appreciated his honesty and told him it was fine, and we continued talking throughout the day, even while he was with his friends. It was going SPLENDIDLY!
However, out of nowhere, he made a condescending comment about my Instagram, saying it looks like heād have to sell a kidney to take a girl like me out. I found it extremely offensive and told him that while Iām financially comfortable and can pay for myself, I do have standards when it comes to dating. I expect a man who asks me out on a date to be willing to pay for it. If a man doesnāt pay, I see it as going out as friends, and I wouldnāt consider a second date. He then doubled down, saying he was new in town and unsure where to take me because I seemed to have an extravagant lifestyle.
I clarified that I didnāt expect an extravagant first date and had a favourite bar in mind thatās quite economical due to my regular patron status there. But I wasn't sure if I was interested in moving forward with him because this had gotten too weird and uncomfortable for me.
He then admitted he was TESTING me because he has a lot of money and didnāt want to be used for it - Mentioning his FERRARI, while he was at it, which I had frankly assumed was a rental, I didn't give it a second thought or glance. He then said he was very disappointed in me accused me of being like other women who expect men to pay ā He called me a Gold Digger in so many words. I found this extremely manipulative, insulting, offensive and downright disrespectful and told him so and asked him to fuck right off! Just for the record - I am also rather well-off. Not only do I make decent money, but my parents are also financially well-off.
Despite my frustration, he apologised profusely and asked for a second chance, claiming he was wrong to test me and that he genuinely wanted to get to know me better. I told him I appreciated the apology but couldnāt get past the disrespect and the implications of his ātest.ā I made it clear that his behaviour had made me feel judged and uncomfortable, and I didnāt see how we could move forward.
He kept insisting, saying we could laugh about this misunderstanding later and that heād make it up to me. I reiterated that I didnāt want to feel scrutinised or judged every time we interacted, and that this incident had soured my perception of him. I told him it was best to part ways and ended the conversation. He asked me to sleep on it, and I did.
The next morning, I sent him a text to formally close things off, but on a good note, saying:
"We definitely had a fun and interesting day, but we both know this isn't going to work out! I truly enjoyed our time together and our roller coaster of a conversation. Most people don't even have dates as fun and intriguing as this! But sadly, this is the end of the road for us. I do truly wish you the very best with everything, and I'm glad we ran into each other. Take care and be well! š"
He didnāt respond to that text, but he continued to view my Instagram stories, which I found really passive-aggressive. So, I followed up with:
"Hey, I noticed you didn't respond to my last message. I just wanted to say that I tried to be respectful and honour the conversation we had because I genuinely valued it. It would have meant a lot to hear back from you, even just a simple acknowledgment. Regardless, I wish you all the best."
His response to that was unexpectedly hostile. He accused me of being selfish and only caring about my own feelings. He claimed he had already responded to my earlier texts and accused me of being stubborn and ungrateful for the time he spent talking to me. His tone was rude and accusatory, which only reinforced my decision to end things.
I replied, explaining how his actions had made me feel judged and disrespected. I pointed out that despite enjoying our conversation, his test and subsequent behavior were major red flags. I told him I was disappointed by his hostility and that I was hoping for a more respectful closure.
He left my final message on āseenā and hasnāt responded since. Which is fine. Screw him.
I'm not looking for advice on how to get back with him. Iām just trying to process this and move on. Any tips on how to deal with such a disappointing end to what seemed like a promising connection? Because I hadn't been this super excited to go out in a VERY long time!
Thanks for reading.
2024.05.21 14:59 Kyrkov I am tired
I dont even know how to start. Im 1 month and 6 days in my first job as a nurse. Just graduated last year and from all the hospitals i applied i just got accepted by one this april. Im in the ICU and a new grad so i didn't really know what else to expect other than it will be difficult. I just didn't know it would exhaust me so bad i got sick twice already. This job makes me cry after work because at the end of the day you only get to sleep and do it all over again and become so anxious that what if this shift will be so toxic again i dont wanna go through this.
I just want to disappear completely. But I can't i have to help my parents with the bills and my sister shes still on school. My girlfriend is moving out of country and i hope to catch up to her. But i cant tell how long i can last with this forsaken job i wanted to apply for work at home jobs but they all need experience and my parents wouldn't allow me cause i wouldn't have job experience and will not eb able to apply for a nursing job abroad.
i went to nursing school because it's what all of my family told me to get so i could go abroad and have a better life. Im so tired of being scared every single day that maybe this shift will take all my energy I don't even have time to at least bring myself to a coffe shop and just rest my day offs are all sleep cause in a week we only have 2 days off and the rest is 12+ hours. I just wanna die and rest but I can't just leave everyone struggling but I can't take it anymore i have fluoxitine but idk if it is helping me or anything i just don't understand anything right now.
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I just want to disappear completely. But I can't i have to help my parents with the bills and my sister shes still on school. My girlfriend is moving out of country and i hope to catch up to her. But i cant tell how long i can last with this forsaken job i wanted to apply for work at home jobs but they all need experience and my parents wouldn't allow me cause i wouldn't have job experience and will not eb able to apply for a nursing job abroad.
i went to nursing school because it's what all of my family told me to get so i could go abroad and have a better life. Im so tired of being scared every single day that maybe this shift will take all my energy I don't even have time to at least bring myself to a coffe shop and just rest my day offs are all sleep cause in a week we only have 2 days off and the rest is 12+ hours. I just wanna die and rest but I can't just leave everyone struggling but I can't take it anymore i have fluoxitine but idk if it is helping me or anything i just don't understand anything right now.
2024.05.21 14:58 Fistinthestink How to repair a relationship
Hi
So i (M32) recently met an old friend (F36) and colleague of mine, since 12 years back. We have always been good and very close friends, that have supported each other through the roughest and worst times. Even helped each other through crises we've had with our exes.
We finally met for a drink at a restaurant when i was on a visit another friend of mine. Since that day, which is about 2,5 months ago, we've been struck by love. We just both felt that twin flame-thing, or that we belong to each other in a soul-form of way.
We got so up in each other and things went too fast, so we had no idea about our recent past. Things just got out of hand and we got mad ad each other, and ended up leaving the relationship.
Now i want to repair it, both as friends but also the partnership. Is it possible to do? Or is it too complex to get together again?
I know she loves me, and i love her. In many ways, i would say every way possible. We said stupid things to each other that didn't mean anything, but she still talks about that. Should i give her time and space for it?
I also had old textmessages and emails from my ex that she reacted on, but that was before we two got along and started something. So she got jealous in things that she never was involved in.
I want some tips from you guys how to move on. Should i build a plan for how we can get together for her, and present it?
She wants us to cut our connection for now. Not forever, but just for a while. Could that make it worse, or is it possible that it makes it better in the end?
I don't know what to do, and i can't ask any of my friends either. It's just too personal, and odd in a way that no one else understands. Because of the friendship we had before. And it hurts me even more, because it's so much more than just a girlfriend to me.
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So i (M32) recently met an old friend (F36) and colleague of mine, since 12 years back. We have always been good and very close friends, that have supported each other through the roughest and worst times. Even helped each other through crises we've had with our exes.
We finally met for a drink at a restaurant when i was on a visit another friend of mine. Since that day, which is about 2,5 months ago, we've been struck by love. We just both felt that twin flame-thing, or that we belong to each other in a soul-form of way.
We got so up in each other and things went too fast, so we had no idea about our recent past. Things just got out of hand and we got mad ad each other, and ended up leaving the relationship.
Now i want to repair it, both as friends but also the partnership. Is it possible to do? Or is it too complex to get together again?
I know she loves me, and i love her. In many ways, i would say every way possible. We said stupid things to each other that didn't mean anything, but she still talks about that. Should i give her time and space for it?
I also had old textmessages and emails from my ex that she reacted on, but that was before we two got along and started something. So she got jealous in things that she never was involved in.
I want some tips from you guys how to move on. Should i build a plan for how we can get together for her, and present it?
She wants us to cut our connection for now. Not forever, but just for a while. Could that make it worse, or is it possible that it makes it better in the end?
I don't know what to do, and i can't ask any of my friends either. It's just too personal, and odd in a way that no one else understands. Because of the friendship we had before. And it hurts me even more, because it's so much more than just a girlfriend to me.
2024.05.21 14:57 confidentbutsleepy How Do You Handle Being 'Tested' in Dating? I Think It's Absolutely WILD!
TL;DR: Matched with a seemingly great guy on Bumble, hit it off well, moved to texting and phone calls, only to have him "test" me on our first disagreement about who should pay on dates. Despite forgiving him, he responded with hateful accusations, leaving me to move on from his manipulative behaviour.
Hey everyone,
I need some advice on a situation thatās been bothering me. Hereās the full story:
I (32) matched with this guy (37) on Bumble recently, and we hit it off immediately. We spent hours texting and eventually, we moved to a phone call that lasted several hours. We got along so well that he mentioned he would have liked to take me out that day, but he already had plans with his friends to watch an F1 race and a football match. I appreciated his honesty and told him it was fine, and we continued talking throughout the day, even while he was with his friends. It was going SPLENDIDLY!
However, out of nowhere, he made a condescending comment about my Instagram, saying it looks like heād have to sell a kidney to take a girl like me out. I found it extremely offensive and told him that while Iām financially comfortable and can pay for myself, I do have standards when it comes to dating. I expect a man who asks me out on a date to be willing to pay for it. If a man doesnāt pay, I see it as going out as friends, and I wouldnāt consider a second date. He then doubled down, saying he was new in town and unsure where to take me because I seemed to have an extravagant lifestyle.
I clarified that I didnāt expect an extravagant first date and had a favourite bar in mind thatās quite economical due to my regular patron status there. But I wasn't sure if I was interested in moving forward with him because this had gotten too weird and uncomfortable for me.
He then admitted he was TESTING me because he has a lot of money and didnāt want to be used for it - Mentioning his FERRARI, while he was at it, which I had frankly assumed was a rental, I didn't give it a second thought or glance. He then said he was very disappointed in me accused me of being like other women who expect men to pay ā He called me a Gold Digger in so many words. I found this extremely manipulative, insulting, offensive and downright disrespectful and told him so and asked him to fuck right off! Just for the record - I am also rather well-off. Not only do I make decent money, but my parents are also financially well-off.
Despite my frustration, he apologised profusely and asked for a second chance, claiming he was wrong to test me and that he genuinely wanted to get to know me better. I told him I appreciated the apology but couldnāt get past the disrespect and the implications of his ātest.ā I made it clear that his behaviour had made me feel judged and uncomfortable, and I didnāt see how we could move forward.
He kept insisting, saying we could laugh about this misunderstanding later and that heād make it up to me. I reiterated that I didnāt want to feel scrutinised or judged every time we interacted, and that this incident had soured my perception of him. I told him it was best to part ways and ended the conversation. He asked me to sleep on it, and I did.
The next morning, I sent him a text to formally close things off, but on a good note, saying:
"We definitely had a fun and interesting day, but we both know this isn't going to work out! I truly enjoyed our time together and our roller coaster of a conversation. Most people don't even have dates as fun and intriguing as this! But sadly, this is the end of the road for us. I do truly wish you the very best with everything, and I'm glad we ran into each other. Take care and be well! š"
He didnāt respond to that text, but he continued to view my Instagram stories, which I found really passive-aggressive. So, I followed up with:
"Hey, I noticed you didn't respond to my last message. I just wanted to say that I tried to be respectful and honour the conversation we had because I genuinely valued it. It would have meant a lot to hear back from you, even just a simple acknowledgment. Regardless, I wish you all the best."
His response to that was unexpectedly hostile. He accused me of being selfish and only caring about my own feelings. He claimed he had already responded to my earlier texts and accused me of being stubborn and ungrateful for the time he spent talking to me. His tone was rude and accusatory, which only reinforced my decision to end things.
I replied, explaining how his actions had made me feel judged and disrespected. I pointed out that despite enjoying our conversation, his test and subsequent behavior were major red flags. I told him I was disappointed by his hostility and that I was hoping for a more respectful closure.
He left my final message on āseenā and hasnāt responded since. Which is fine. Screw him.
I'm not looking for advice on how to get back with him. Iām just trying to process this and move on. Any tips on how to deal with such a disappointing end to what seemed like a promising connection? Because I hadn't been this super excited to go out in a VERY long time!
Thanks for reading.
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Hey everyone,
I need some advice on a situation thatās been bothering me. Hereās the full story:
I (32) matched with this guy (37) on Bumble recently, and we hit it off immediately. We spent hours texting and eventually, we moved to a phone call that lasted several hours. We got along so well that he mentioned he would have liked to take me out that day, but he already had plans with his friends to watch an F1 race and a football match. I appreciated his honesty and told him it was fine, and we continued talking throughout the day, even while he was with his friends. It was going SPLENDIDLY!
However, out of nowhere, he made a condescending comment about my Instagram, saying it looks like heād have to sell a kidney to take a girl like me out. I found it extremely offensive and told him that while Iām financially comfortable and can pay for myself, I do have standards when it comes to dating. I expect a man who asks me out on a date to be willing to pay for it. If a man doesnāt pay, I see it as going out as friends, and I wouldnāt consider a second date. He then doubled down, saying he was new in town and unsure where to take me because I seemed to have an extravagant lifestyle.
I clarified that I didnāt expect an extravagant first date and had a favourite bar in mind thatās quite economical due to my regular patron status there. But I wasn't sure if I was interested in moving forward with him because this had gotten too weird and uncomfortable for me.
He then admitted he was TESTING me because he has a lot of money and didnāt want to be used for it - Mentioning his FERRARI, while he was at it, which I had frankly assumed was a rental, I didn't give it a second thought or glance. He then said he was very disappointed in me accused me of being like other women who expect men to pay ā He called me a Gold Digger in so many words. I found this extremely manipulative, insulting, offensive and downright disrespectful and told him so and asked him to fuck right off! Just for the record - I am also rather well-off. Not only do I make decent money, but my parents are also financially well-off.
Despite my frustration, he apologised profusely and asked for a second chance, claiming he was wrong to test me and that he genuinely wanted to get to know me better. I told him I appreciated the apology but couldnāt get past the disrespect and the implications of his ātest.ā I made it clear that his behaviour had made me feel judged and uncomfortable, and I didnāt see how we could move forward.
He kept insisting, saying we could laugh about this misunderstanding later and that heād make it up to me. I reiterated that I didnāt want to feel scrutinised or judged every time we interacted, and that this incident had soured my perception of him. I told him it was best to part ways and ended the conversation. He asked me to sleep on it, and I did.
The next morning, I sent him a text to formally close things off, but on a good note, saying:
"We definitely had a fun and interesting day, but we both know this isn't going to work out! I truly enjoyed our time together and our roller coaster of a conversation. Most people don't even have dates as fun and intriguing as this! But sadly, this is the end of the road for us. I do truly wish you the very best with everything, and I'm glad we ran into each other. Take care and be well! š"
He didnāt respond to that text, but he continued to view my Instagram stories, which I found really passive-aggressive. So, I followed up with:
"Hey, I noticed you didn't respond to my last message. I just wanted to say that I tried to be respectful and honour the conversation we had because I genuinely valued it. It would have meant a lot to hear back from you, even just a simple acknowledgment. Regardless, I wish you all the best."
His response to that was unexpectedly hostile. He accused me of being selfish and only caring about my own feelings. He claimed he had already responded to my earlier texts and accused me of being stubborn and ungrateful for the time he spent talking to me. His tone was rude and accusatory, which only reinforced my decision to end things.
I replied, explaining how his actions had made me feel judged and disrespected. I pointed out that despite enjoying our conversation, his test and subsequent behavior were major red flags. I told him I was disappointed by his hostility and that I was hoping for a more respectful closure.
He left my final message on āseenā and hasnāt responded since. Which is fine. Screw him.
I'm not looking for advice on how to get back with him. Iām just trying to process this and move on. Any tips on how to deal with such a disappointing end to what seemed like a promising connection? Because I hadn't been this super excited to go out in a VERY long time!
Thanks for reading.
2024.05.21 14:53 ThrowRAonesidedopen How do I deal with feelings of guilt due to my (25m) relationship dynamic with my girlfriend (18f)? Will going through with this harm my relationship?
Not what you're thinking.
We don't have any abusive stuff going on, we're very happy together, but recently we spoke and she suggested that I sleep with other people. She laid down some ground rules. I can't use the bed we sleep on, I can't go with the same person twice or catch feelings.
I was raised religious and waited until her to have sex for the first time.
Now to be honest, gaining more experience is appealing to me because she has had other sexual partners in the past (people she has been in long-term relationships with) and it makes me a little insecure. But I never believed in this kind of thing and she kind of had to insist for 2 hours and give some incentives before I agreed.
I was thinking okay, this is fine. But in the last couple days I have reached out to 3 women who have hit me back up and it looks like things are going to happen. I have this pit in my stomach and feel like I'd lose my girlfriend if I went through with this, even though we have an active sex life and she seems very happy and messages me a lot. But she tells me that I'm deeping it and she'd prefer to not be my only ever sexual partner as long as I stick to her terms, and that she would never leave me. I know this isn't because she'd eventually want a free pass, because I told her I'd never let her do this when I was asking why she wanted me to, and because she isn't that kind of person.
My head believes her but it seems like my body just feels like I'm cheating. I'm worried that after I have sex with these women, she'll either change her mind or I'll feel like shit.
On the flip side, I'm worried about not following through with this and having regrets on not taking the offer up later in life.
It's all very confusing.
Thoughts?
P.S. as for the age thing since I know it's going to come up. There's 2 factors. First is I returned to university later in life because I had a decent career but I hated it. This means most of my friends and people I meet are 18-22 now. This is combined with the fact that I look too young for my age so the women that are interested in me are also in this age group. My girlfriend is an adult and I hope she isn't infantilised for choosing who she wants to date. I do not abuse any kind of power (how would this even happen when I am also a uni student?) or authority. I am not asking about problems related to age gap. I love my girlfriend and am not leaving her.
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We don't have any abusive stuff going on, we're very happy together, but recently we spoke and she suggested that I sleep with other people. She laid down some ground rules. I can't use the bed we sleep on, I can't go with the same person twice or catch feelings.
I was raised religious and waited until her to have sex for the first time.
Now to be honest, gaining more experience is appealing to me because she has had other sexual partners in the past (people she has been in long-term relationships with) and it makes me a little insecure. But I never believed in this kind of thing and she kind of had to insist for 2 hours and give some incentives before I agreed.
I was thinking okay, this is fine. But in the last couple days I have reached out to 3 women who have hit me back up and it looks like things are going to happen. I have this pit in my stomach and feel like I'd lose my girlfriend if I went through with this, even though we have an active sex life and she seems very happy and messages me a lot. But she tells me that I'm deeping it and she'd prefer to not be my only ever sexual partner as long as I stick to her terms, and that she would never leave me. I know this isn't because she'd eventually want a free pass, because I told her I'd never let her do this when I was asking why she wanted me to, and because she isn't that kind of person.
My head believes her but it seems like my body just feels like I'm cheating. I'm worried that after I have sex with these women, she'll either change her mind or I'll feel like shit.
On the flip side, I'm worried about not following through with this and having regrets on not taking the offer up later in life.
It's all very confusing.
Thoughts?
P.S. as for the age thing since I know it's going to come up. There's 2 factors. First is I returned to university later in life because I had a decent career but I hated it. This means most of my friends and people I meet are 18-22 now. This is combined with the fact that I look too young for my age so the women that are interested in me are also in this age group. My girlfriend is an adult and I hope she isn't infantilised for choosing who she wants to date. I do not abuse any kind of power (how would this even happen when I am also a uni student?) or authority. I am not asking about problems related to age gap. I love my girlfriend and am not leaving her.
2024.05.21 14:52 Little-Unit-1770 [Online][5e][MST][Saturday Mornings / Afternoons][21+] seeking Queer / Women / NB players for a homebrew-ish, roleplay-focused game
Hey there everyone! Iām Z (he/they) & Iām looking to run a slow-paced, roleplay-heavy game with a focus on queer players & narratives. Experience doesn't matter, I love having newer players in my games!
I know this is long, but please read it throughly! The application isn't much shorter and I don't want to waste your time. I will be keeping the application up and reposting through the week, so there's no rush!
I also really shouldn't have to say this, but considering the only comments I got on my first post were negative: please don't harass me for wanting to run a safe table for people. Or, if you do, at least acknowledge the irony. . . This is a handicapped parking space; I know it's empty, but so are the dozens of spaces around it.
A little more about me - I'm 32 and Iāve been playing since 2017, mostly as a DM. Before the pandemic I ran a lot of local store games and āhow to DM eventsā for adults, as well as library games for kids. It took me a while to adjust to playing online but now I prefer it, as itās allowed me to find a whole new love for the game playing with different kinds of people and focusing on intentionally creating a safe space for those who donāt feel comfortable at most tables.
Format - I would like to run weekly voice sessions on discord (with optional cameras) using roll20 as our VTT & the option to roleplay via text on the server throughout the week, with either other PCs or NPCs - I also like doing lore drops this way, or giving previews to other things that are happening in the world. I like dndbeyond for character sheets (and Iām happy to share all my content), but as long as I can see them, you can run them wherever. I am bad about using music bots on discord, so I would love it if someone knew how that all worked and could help with that, otherwise I can share playlists on spotify.
Scheduling - I would like to play anytime between 8am MST in the mornings and letās say 4pm or so on Saturdays, and again weād be shooting for every week, but obviously life happens and we might need to take a week off. It would also be lovely if you have a slightly flexible schedule just in case, as I can occasionally play on Sundays or Mondays as well. Sessions can be anywhere from 2 hours to 4 or 5 hours, depending on the amount of roleplay. I leave a lot of space in my game for in-character conversations, so if you are someone who gets bored easily / doesnāt care about the game if it doesnāt directly involve your character, this is not the game for you.
For this reason, I prefer running smaller groups, 3-4 being the sweet spot.
Mechanics - weāre playing 5e* and the asterisk represents all the stupid rules that make the game less fun that I ignore or change. I care more about the story and roleplaying than the mechanics, I very much default to the ārule of coolā or letting the dice decide your fate. I am very much on your side and if it ever feels like Iām not, please let me know. The basics are I donāt make you track food/arrows/ etc. and if you forget or misunderstand something major Iāll remind you or clarify. I also donāt care too much about times for donning / doffing armor and using action economy to pull out a weapon - weāve all woken up well past our alarm and still made it to work on time; you can get your armor on for that middle of the night combat.
In a similar manner, weāre playing Dragons of Shipwreck Isle* where the asterisk represents all the parts of the adventure that Iām gonna change and try to make more interesting. I would ask for yāall not to metagame and look up the adventure, but mostly because if youāre comparing the module to what I run, itās not going to line up and it will probably end up frustrating you. I am also looking at other modules as well but instead of listing them all, in the question on the form where I ask if youāve played this specific module before, please list all of the ones youāve played instead of just saying yes or no. I don't like feeling like I need to trick my players into playing attention during the game, so I like players who pick up on these details.
Hard lines / veils in game - racism / sexism / homophobia / transphobia are NOT built into my fantasy worlds; we deal with that enough irl. I also donāt fuck with slavery, SA (this includes during combat, assault is assault even if they are a ābad guyā) or ERP. Anything sexual will be implied / fade to black, but I would prefer things not get too sexual. I donāt mind in character romance between PCs, but I would appreciate a heads up if you want an NPC romance for your character - and I will be checking in with everyone about your comfort level with this, if you want absolutely no flirting towards your character from any NPC please let me know that as well.
I will also stay away from harming kids / pets / elderly, and anything you would like to list as a hard line (something you donāt want showing up in the game at all) or veil (something that can be alluded to, just not graphically detailed). I will say there are heavy themes of undead present in the module at the beginning, and zombies / undead are a personal favorite monster of mine to use so PLEASE do not apply to this game if you donāt like fighting undead! My descriptions can get graphic at times when it comes to monsters & combat, but I will likely gross myself out before it becomes too gratuitous.
Triggers - even if you donāt think it will come up in game, triggers can unfortunately pop up with silly memes or jokes ooc. If thereās a certain image / idea that totally squicks you out and you donāt want them included ANYWHERE on the server, please let me know! Everyoneās comfort is a top priority to me, and keeping your triggers out of our safe space is really important to me.
Morality - I love moral ambiguity, but I genuinely donāt want any evil aligned characters. This is a collaborative game that requires everyone to work together to some extent; you donāt have to be instant best friends in character, but you will need you to communicate and check in ooc if tensions rise up in character. Play your character true to their actions, but make sure that their actions are fun and interesting for everyone involved, not just you.
I also always allow non-lethal combat options, such as knocking sentient creatures unconscious. I encourage trying to persuade / lie / bargain with those you have captured, but I will not condone outright torture. That said, there will be humanoid bad guys who wonāt always be the most reasonable people, and may not collaborate.
Safety Tools - outside of open communication in discussing boundaries & triggers, I encourage the āX cardā method - whenever anyone gets uncomfortable and wants to immediately stop a scene, you can send a literal āXā in either the main chat or to me privately and we will stop immediately. Ideally, we can get on the same page easily about comfort levels and everyone here will feel okay coming to me with any issues they have, but we are all human and things can pop up.
Expectations - The only thing I really ask out of yāall as my player is for open communication and I will always try my best to do the same. If something isnāt vibing with you or it makes you uncomfortable, even if itās something little, please tell me. I expect you to be engaged with the story, and encourage you to keep some sort of notes / inventory / āto do listā for the game. I also would really appreciate feedback - not just for how I run the game, but what you want to see in the game so I can put it in there. If someoneās character is interested in a specific realm of study in history / arcana / nature, I can build that into the lore. Same thing if you want to find a specific item or learn how to do a certain skill - let me know either in or out of character and Iāll try to make it happen!
Starting point - I am intentionally keeping this part loosey-goosey to accommodate players backstories & experiences! Mechanically, you will start at either level 1 or 2 with Point Buy for stats, and I am imagining getting to at least level 5, but it really depends. The loose idea I have right now is that yāall are traveling on a ship from Neverwinter to an island where you will likely be for several weeks in character, but I want to leave the overall āwhyā up to the individual players and group. It will likely take about a dozen or so sessions, but I am happy to play for as long as my players want to keep doing things in character!
If you havenāt been put off by the amount of text, please click the link below to apply. If you thought this was too much and you skimmed the post to find this link, youāre probably going to get bored before you finish applying lol
best of luck!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSefOJuSFuzromCph2g6eBmeMEoIEH1t2grCuIbLa6O_i-9CWw/viewform?usp=sf_link
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I know this is long, but please read it throughly! The application isn't much shorter and I don't want to waste your time. I will be keeping the application up and reposting through the week, so there's no rush!
I also really shouldn't have to say this, but considering the only comments I got on my first post were negative: please don't harass me for wanting to run a safe table for people. Or, if you do, at least acknowledge the irony. . . This is a handicapped parking space; I know it's empty, but so are the dozens of spaces around it.
A little more about me - I'm 32 and Iāve been playing since 2017, mostly as a DM. Before the pandemic I ran a lot of local store games and āhow to DM eventsā for adults, as well as library games for kids. It took me a while to adjust to playing online but now I prefer it, as itās allowed me to find a whole new love for the game playing with different kinds of people and focusing on intentionally creating a safe space for those who donāt feel comfortable at most tables.
Format - I would like to run weekly voice sessions on discord (with optional cameras) using roll20 as our VTT & the option to roleplay via text on the server throughout the week, with either other PCs or NPCs - I also like doing lore drops this way, or giving previews to other things that are happening in the world. I like dndbeyond for character sheets (and Iām happy to share all my content), but as long as I can see them, you can run them wherever. I am bad about using music bots on discord, so I would love it if someone knew how that all worked and could help with that, otherwise I can share playlists on spotify.
Scheduling - I would like to play anytime between 8am MST in the mornings and letās say 4pm or so on Saturdays, and again weād be shooting for every week, but obviously life happens and we might need to take a week off. It would also be lovely if you have a slightly flexible schedule just in case, as I can occasionally play on Sundays or Mondays as well. Sessions can be anywhere from 2 hours to 4 or 5 hours, depending on the amount of roleplay. I leave a lot of space in my game for in-character conversations, so if you are someone who gets bored easily / doesnāt care about the game if it doesnāt directly involve your character, this is not the game for you.
For this reason, I prefer running smaller groups, 3-4 being the sweet spot.
Mechanics - weāre playing 5e* and the asterisk represents all the stupid rules that make the game less fun that I ignore or change. I care more about the story and roleplaying than the mechanics, I very much default to the ārule of coolā or letting the dice decide your fate. I am very much on your side and if it ever feels like Iām not, please let me know. The basics are I donāt make you track food/arrows/ etc. and if you forget or misunderstand something major Iāll remind you or clarify. I also donāt care too much about times for donning / doffing armor and using action economy to pull out a weapon - weāve all woken up well past our alarm and still made it to work on time; you can get your armor on for that middle of the night combat.
In a similar manner, weāre playing Dragons of Shipwreck Isle* where the asterisk represents all the parts of the adventure that Iām gonna change and try to make more interesting. I would ask for yāall not to metagame and look up the adventure, but mostly because if youāre comparing the module to what I run, itās not going to line up and it will probably end up frustrating you. I am also looking at other modules as well but instead of listing them all, in the question on the form where I ask if youāve played this specific module before, please list all of the ones youāve played instead of just saying yes or no. I don't like feeling like I need to trick my players into playing attention during the game, so I like players who pick up on these details.
Hard lines / veils in game - racism / sexism / homophobia / transphobia are NOT built into my fantasy worlds; we deal with that enough irl. I also donāt fuck with slavery, SA (this includes during combat, assault is assault even if they are a ābad guyā) or ERP. Anything sexual will be implied / fade to black, but I would prefer things not get too sexual. I donāt mind in character romance between PCs, but I would appreciate a heads up if you want an NPC romance for your character - and I will be checking in with everyone about your comfort level with this, if you want absolutely no flirting towards your character from any NPC please let me know that as well.
I will also stay away from harming kids / pets / elderly, and anything you would like to list as a hard line (something you donāt want showing up in the game at all) or veil (something that can be alluded to, just not graphically detailed). I will say there are heavy themes of undead present in the module at the beginning, and zombies / undead are a personal favorite monster of mine to use so PLEASE do not apply to this game if you donāt like fighting undead! My descriptions can get graphic at times when it comes to monsters & combat, but I will likely gross myself out before it becomes too gratuitous.
Triggers - even if you donāt think it will come up in game, triggers can unfortunately pop up with silly memes or jokes ooc. If thereās a certain image / idea that totally squicks you out and you donāt want them included ANYWHERE on the server, please let me know! Everyoneās comfort is a top priority to me, and keeping your triggers out of our safe space is really important to me.
Morality - I love moral ambiguity, but I genuinely donāt want any evil aligned characters. This is a collaborative game that requires everyone to work together to some extent; you donāt have to be instant best friends in character, but you will need you to communicate and check in ooc if tensions rise up in character. Play your character true to their actions, but make sure that their actions are fun and interesting for everyone involved, not just you.
I also always allow non-lethal combat options, such as knocking sentient creatures unconscious. I encourage trying to persuade / lie / bargain with those you have captured, but I will not condone outright torture. That said, there will be humanoid bad guys who wonāt always be the most reasonable people, and may not collaborate.
Safety Tools - outside of open communication in discussing boundaries & triggers, I encourage the āX cardā method - whenever anyone gets uncomfortable and wants to immediately stop a scene, you can send a literal āXā in either the main chat or to me privately and we will stop immediately. Ideally, we can get on the same page easily about comfort levels and everyone here will feel okay coming to me with any issues they have, but we are all human and things can pop up.
Expectations - The only thing I really ask out of yāall as my player is for open communication and I will always try my best to do the same. If something isnāt vibing with you or it makes you uncomfortable, even if itās something little, please tell me. I expect you to be engaged with the story, and encourage you to keep some sort of notes / inventory / āto do listā for the game. I also would really appreciate feedback - not just for how I run the game, but what you want to see in the game so I can put it in there. If someoneās character is interested in a specific realm of study in history / arcana / nature, I can build that into the lore. Same thing if you want to find a specific item or learn how to do a certain skill - let me know either in or out of character and Iāll try to make it happen!
Starting point - I am intentionally keeping this part loosey-goosey to accommodate players backstories & experiences! Mechanically, you will start at either level 1 or 2 with Point Buy for stats, and I am imagining getting to at least level 5, but it really depends. The loose idea I have right now is that yāall are traveling on a ship from Neverwinter to an island where you will likely be for several weeks in character, but I want to leave the overall āwhyā up to the individual players and group. It will likely take about a dozen or so sessions, but I am happy to play for as long as my players want to keep doing things in character!
If you havenāt been put off by the amount of text, please click the link below to apply. If you thought this was too much and you skimmed the post to find this link, youāre probably going to get bored before you finish applying lol
best of luck!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSefOJuSFuzromCph2g6eBmeMEoIEH1t2grCuIbLa6O_i-9CWw/viewform?usp=sf_link
2024.05.21 14:52 fashionfan007 I got a baby who hates bottles to take almost two ounces.
I was babysitting last night for a two month old. She was so cute. Big brown eyes, big cheeks, just so so cute! Her mom was concerned about leaving her because the baby doesn't take to a bottle, and that I might have to force it in her mouth, but that if she doesn't take it, she can just nurse when she gets home.
When it was time to feed her, I gave her her pacifier for a bit, and then when she was getting comfortable, I did a quick switcheroo, and I put the bottle in her mouth, and it worked! It works for like 30 seconds before she got upset, and then I burped her and put her pacifier back in. I did this one more time before she refused it and just wanted to go to sleep. But by that time, she drank almost two ounces.
But I am so proud of myself for trying and succeeding (sort of lol)
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When it was time to feed her, I gave her her pacifier for a bit, and then when she was getting comfortable, I did a quick switcheroo, and I put the bottle in her mouth, and it worked! It works for like 30 seconds before she got upset, and then I burped her and put her pacifier back in. I did this one more time before she refused it and just wanted to go to sleep. But by that time, she drank almost two ounces.
But I am so proud of myself for trying and succeeding (sort of lol)
2024.05.21 14:50 Zoliv13 [H] Bundle games from Humble/Fanatical/IG [W] Wishlist/Offers (Update 21/05/2024)
Hello,
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
submitted by Zoliv13 to indiegameswap [link] [comments]
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
- Afterfall Insanity Extended Edition
- Archery Practice VR
- Be King
- Beast Boxing Turbo
- Betrayer
- Blackwater Bayou VR
- Cloud Chamber
- Defenders of Ardania
- Depths of Fear :: Knossos
- Dollar Dash
- Droplitz
- eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
- Grind Zones
- Leviathan: Warships
- Magicka: Wizards of the Square Tablet
- On The Path
- Peaky Blinders: Mastermind
- Quadrant M4
- Quixzel Rush: Pumpkin Bash
- Quixzel Rush: Tooth Protector
- Run Away
- Shadows: Price For Our Sins Bonus Edition
- Sine Mora + Ex
- Space Rangers
- Spaceguy 2
- Star Shield Down
- Trials of The Illuminati: Animated Christmas Time Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Assorted Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Snack Time Jigsaw Puzzles
- Trials of The Illuminati: Women of Beauty Jigsaws
- Two Brothers
- World War 1 Centennial Edition
- ZombieRush
- A Game of Dwarves
- A New Beginning - Final Cut
- A New Beginning
- A Valley Without Wind
- Abandon Ship
- Alien Spidy
- Aliens versus Predator Classic 2000
- Angvik
- Animals
- Anna - Extended Edition
- AquaNox
- Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation
- Astervoid 2000 Soundtrack
- Aura: Fate of the Ages
- Avencast
- Bad Rats
- Bang Bang Racing
- Beat Hazard
- Beat Hazard Complete
- Bionic Heart 2 - Deluxe Edition
- Bionic Heart
- BlazeRush
- CAPSULE
- Car Mechanic Simulator 2014
- Cargo! - The quest for gravity
- Ceville
- Commander: Conquest of the Americas
- Commandos 3: Destination Berlin
- Contagion
- Crash Time 3
- Dangerous platform
- Dark Fall: Lost Souls
- Dark Fear
- Darwinia
- Darwinia Soundtrack
- Dead Hungry Diner
- Deadly 30
- Deep Dungeons of Doom
- Demigod
- Deponia
- DESOLATE
- Disciples II: Galleans Return
- Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
- Dragon Blast DLC
- Driftmoon
- Drop Hunt - Adventure Puzzle
- Dungeons - The Dark Lord
- El Matador
- Escape From Russia: Mobilization
- Europa Universalis III Chronicles
- Fated Souls 3
- Fester Mudd - Episode 1
- Figment
- Final Slam 2
- Finding Teddy
- Flatout
- Flower Shop: Summer In Fairbrook
- Galactic Civilizations I: Ultimate Edition
- Ghost Master
- Girlfriend Rescue
- Going Under
- Grand Ages Rome Gold
- Grav Blazer
- Greed: Black Border
- Grotesque Tactics 2
- Grotesque Tactics: Evil Heroes
- Hacker Evolution Source Code
- Hail To The King
- Hard Reset Extended Edition
- Heileen 2: The Hands Of Fate
- Hell Let Loose - Hot Drop (DLC)
- Hero by Chance
- Holy Avatar vs. Maidens of the Dead
- Home
- Huntsman: The Orphanage
- Imperial Glory
- inMomentum
- Ion Assault
- Just Ignore Them
- Kalaban
- KAMI
- Kingdom Wars 4 - The Plague: Kingdom Wars
- Knights of Honor
- Konung 2
- Konung 3
- Labyrinthine Dreams
- LEAVES - The Return
- Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards: Reloaded
- LYNE
- M.U.D. TV
- Majesty 2
- Mata Hari
- Maverta Island
- Megabyte Punch
- Memory Booster
- Men of War: Assault Squad GOTY
- Mind: Path to Thalamus
- Miner Wars 2081
- Mini Motor Racing
- Molecular Warfare
- Multiwinia
- NASCAR Heat Evolution
- Night Wanderings
- Norega Barracks + Academy DLC
- Oil Rush Bundle
- One Finger Death Punch 2
- Onikira - Demon Killer
- Overcast - Walden and the Werewolf
- Patrician IV
- Patrician IV Gold
- Perimeter
- Pixel Heroes: Byte & Magic
- PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate
- Planets Under Attack
- Plush
- Poof
- Praetorians
- Primal Carnage
- Purgatory: War of the Damned
- Puzzle Art: Cats
- Puzzle Kingdoms
- Quell
- Quell Memento
- Quell Reflect
- R.I.P.D.: The Game
- Race! Beauty! Bugs!
- Razor2: Hidden Skies
- Red Faction Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered + Armageddon Bundle With DLC (Nordic D)
- Red Johnson's Chronicles - 1+2
- Reign: Conflict of Nations
- Rig N Roll
- Rise of Flight: Channel Battles Edition
- Sacred Gold
- Save the Dodos
- Self Shot
- Sex Chess
- Shadowgrounds Survivor
- Shannon Tweed's Attack Of The Groupies
- Skara - Starter Pack
- Skeleton Troubles
- Sky Mercenaries
- Smalles Class DLC
- Soulcraft
- Space Empires V
- Space Pilgrim Academy: Year 3
- Spirited Heart Deluxe
- Square's Route
- Star Ruler
- Steel Storm
- Stellar Interface
- Stoirs VR
- Stunt Hill
- Swamp Jump
- Sweet Lilly Dreams
- Switch Galaxy Ultra
- Switch Galaxy Ultra Charity Pack 1
- Tennis Manager 2021
- The Deed II
- The End of Labyronia: Nerubis
- The God's Chain
- The King's Heroes
- The Old City: Leviathan
- Theatre of War 2: Africa 1943
- Theatre of War
- Theatre of War: 3 - Korea
- Theatre of War: Centauro
- Theatre of War: Kursk + Caen
- Toby: The Secret Mine
- Trainz Simulator 12 - Coronation Scot DLC
- Tropico 3
- Tropico 4
- Trulon: The Shadow Engine
- Turba
- UFO Afterlight
- Ultimate Soldier
- Undefeated
- Uplink
- Us and them
- Valnir Rok
- Vault Cracker
- Vegas: Make It Big
- Velvet Assassin
- Vessel
- Victory: The Age of Racing - Steam Founder Pack
- Warriors' Wrath
- Wasteland Angel
- Who's that Flying
- Windforge
- Zombie Pirates
- Zombie Shooter
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Wayfinder Early Access on PS5
Wishlist :Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
- 9 Years of Shadows
- A Plague Tale: Requiem
- ABRISS
- Achilles: Legends Untold
- AFTERLIFE: KILLING DEATH
- ALTF4
- Axiom Verge
- Axiom Verge 2
- Battletoads
- Bendy and the Ink Machine
- BERSERK and the Band of the Hawk
- Blade of Darkness
- Blasphemous 2
- Bleak Faith: Forsaken
- Boneraiser Minions
- Bud Spencer & Terence Hill - Slaps And Beans 2
- CARRION
- Choo-Choo Charles
- Cookie Cutter
- Cuphead
- Deadlink
- Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons
- Dread Delusion
- Dread X Collection: The Hunt
- ELDEN RING
- Enter / Exit the Gungeon
- Gearshifters
- GetsuFumaDen: Undying Moon Delux
- Ghost Song
- Good Knight
- GRAVEN
- GTFO
- Hand of Fate 2
- Hands of Necromancy
- Hidden Deep
- High On Life
- HYPERVIOLENT
- Impaler
- Just King
- LEGOĀ® Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
- Loot River
- Lost in Random
- Lost Ruins
- Madshot
- Mago
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
- Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
- New Tales from the Borderlands
- Noita
- Piko Interactive LLC various oldies
- Prince of Persia (various)
- Project Warlock II
- Prototype 1 and 2
- Resident Evil 4 (New)
- River City Girls 2
- River City Girls Zero
- River City Melee : Battle Royal Special
- River City Melee Mach!!
- River City: Rival Showdown
- River City Saga: Three Kingdoms
- Rogue: Genesia
- Seasons after Fall
- Sir Whoopass
- STASIS: BONE TOTEM
- Super Catboy
- The Knight Witch
- The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
- Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy
- Ultratron
- ULTRAKILL
- UNSIGHTED
- Void Scrappers
- Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
- Warhammer 40,000: Shootas, Blood & Teef
- Windbound
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
2024.05.21 14:50 Zoliv13 [H] Bundle games from Humble/Fanatical/IG [W] Wishlist/Offers (Update 21/05/2024)
Hello,
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
submitted by Zoliv13 to GameTrade [link] [comments]
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
- Afterfall Insanity Extended Edition
- Archery Practice VR
- Be King
- Beast Boxing Turbo
- Betrayer
- Blackwater Bayou VR
- Cloud Chamber
- Defenders of Ardania
- Depths of Fear :: Knossos
- Dollar Dash
- Droplitz
- eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
- Grind Zones
- Leviathan: Warships
- Magicka: Wizards of the Square Tablet
- On The Path
- Peaky Blinders: Mastermind
- Quadrant M4
- Quixzel Rush: Pumpkin Bash
- Quixzel Rush: Tooth Protector
- Run Away
- Shadows: Price For Our Sins Bonus Edition
- Sine Mora + Ex
- Space Rangers
- Spaceguy 2
- Star Shield Down
- Trials of The Illuminati: Animated Christmas Time Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Assorted Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Snack Time Jigsaw Puzzles
- Trials of The Illuminati: Women of Beauty Jigsaws
- Two Brothers
- World War 1 Centennial Edition
- ZombieRush
- A Game of Dwarves
- A New Beginning - Final Cut
- A New Beginning
- A Valley Without Wind
- Abandon Ship
- Alien Spidy
- Aliens versus Predator Classic 2000
- Angvik
- Animals
- Anna - Extended Edition
- AquaNox
- Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation
- Astervoid 2000 Soundtrack
- Aura: Fate of the Ages
- Avencast
- Bad Rats
- Bang Bang Racing
- Beat Hazard
- Beat Hazard Complete
- Bionic Heart 2 - Deluxe Edition
- Bionic Heart
- BlazeRush
- CAPSULE
- Car Mechanic Simulator 2014
- Cargo! - The quest for gravity
- Ceville
- Commander: Conquest of the Americas
- Commandos 3: Destination Berlin
- Contagion
- Crash Time 3
- Dangerous platform
- Dark Fall: Lost Souls
- Dark Fear
- Darwinia
- Darwinia Soundtrack
- Dead Hungry Diner
- Deadly 30
- Deep Dungeons of Doom
- Demigod
- Deponia
- DESOLATE
- Disciples II: Galleans Return
- Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
- Dragon Blast DLC
- Driftmoon
- Drop Hunt - Adventure Puzzle
- Dungeons - The Dark Lord
- El Matador
- Escape From Russia: Mobilization
- Europa Universalis III Chronicles
- Fated Souls 3
- Fester Mudd - Episode 1
- Figment
- Final Slam 2
- Finding Teddy
- Flatout
- Flower Shop: Summer In Fairbrook
- Galactic Civilizations I: Ultimate Edition
- Ghost Master
- Girlfriend Rescue
- Going Under
- Grand Ages Rome Gold
- Grav Blazer
- Greed: Black Border
- Grotesque Tactics 2
- Grotesque Tactics: Evil Heroes
- Hacker Evolution Source Code
- Hail To The King
- Hard Reset Extended Edition
- Heileen 2: The Hands Of Fate
- Hell Let Loose - Hot Drop (DLC)
- Hero by Chance
- Holy Avatar vs. Maidens of the Dead
- Home
- Huntsman: The Orphanage
- Imperial Glory
- inMomentum
- Ion Assault
- Just Ignore Them
- Kalaban
- KAMI
- Kingdom Wars 4 - The Plague: Kingdom Wars
- Knights of Honor
- Konung 2
- Konung 3
- Labyrinthine Dreams
- LEAVES - The Return
- Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards: Reloaded
- LYNE
- M.U.D. TV
- Majesty 2
- Mata Hari
- Maverta Island
- Megabyte Punch
- Memory Booster
- Men of War: Assault Squad GOTY
- Mind: Path to Thalamus
- Miner Wars 2081
- Mini Motor Racing
- Molecular Warfare
- Multiwinia
- NASCAR Heat Evolution
- Night Wanderings
- Norega Barracks + Academy DLC
- Oil Rush Bundle
- One Finger Death Punch 2
- Onikira - Demon Killer
- Overcast - Walden and the Werewolf
- Patrician IV
- Patrician IV Gold
- Perimeter
- Pixel Heroes: Byte & Magic
- PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate
- Planets Under Attack
- Plush
- Poof
- Praetorians
- Primal Carnage
- Purgatory: War of the Damned
- Puzzle Art: Cats
- Puzzle Kingdoms
- Quell
- Quell Memento
- Quell Reflect
- R.I.P.D.: The Game
- Race! Beauty! Bugs!
- Razor2: Hidden Skies
- Red Faction Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered + Armageddon Bundle With DLC (Nordic D)
- Red Johnson's Chronicles - 1+2
- Reign: Conflict of Nations
- Rig N Roll
- Rise of Flight: Channel Battles Edition
- Sacred Gold
- Save the Dodos
- Self Shot
- Sex Chess
- Shadowgrounds Survivor
- Shannon Tweed's Attack Of The Groupies
- Skara - Starter Pack
- Skeleton Troubles
- Sky Mercenaries
- Smalles Class DLC
- Soulcraft
- Space Empires V
- Space Pilgrim Academy: Year 3
- Spirited Heart Deluxe
- Square's Route
- Star Ruler
- Steel Storm
- Stellar Interface
- Stoirs VR
- Stunt Hill
- Swamp Jump
- Sweet Lilly Dreams
- Switch Galaxy Ultra
- Switch Galaxy Ultra Charity Pack 1
- Tennis Manager 2021
- The Deed II
- The End of Labyronia: Nerubis
- The God's Chain
- The King's Heroes
- The Old City: Leviathan
- Theatre of War 2: Africa 1943
- Theatre of War
- Theatre of War: 3 - Korea
- Theatre of War: Centauro
- Theatre of War: Kursk + Caen
- Toby: The Secret Mine
- Trainz Simulator 12 - Coronation Scot DLC
- Tropico 3
- Tropico 4
- Trulon: The Shadow Engine
- Turba
- UFO Afterlight
- Ultimate Soldier
- Undefeated
- Uplink
- Us and them
- Valnir Rok
- Vault Cracker
- Vegas: Make It Big
- Velvet Assassin
- Vessel
- Victory: The Age of Racing - Steam Founder Pack
- Warriors' Wrath
- Wasteland Angel
- Who's that Flying
- Windforge
- Zombie Pirates
- Zombie Shooter
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Wayfinder Early Access on PS5
Wishlist :Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
- 9 Years of Shadows
- A Plague Tale: Requiem
- ABRISS
- Achilles: Legends Untold
- AFTERLIFE: KILLING DEATH
- ALTF4
- Axiom Verge
- Axiom Verge 2
- Battletoads
- Bendy and the Ink Machine
- BERSERK and the Band of the Hawk
- Blade of Darkness
- Blasphemous 2
- Bleak Faith: Forsaken
- Boneraiser Minions
- Bud Spencer & Terence Hill - Slaps And Beans 2
- CARRION
- Choo-Choo Charles
- Cookie Cutter
- Cuphead
- Deadlink
- Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons
- Dread Delusion
- Dread X Collection: The Hunt
- ELDEN RING
- Enter / Exit the Gungeon
- Gearshifters
- GetsuFumaDen: Undying Moon Delux
- Ghost Song
- Good Knight
- GRAVEN
- GTFO
- Hand of Fate 2
- Hands of Necromancy
- Hidden Deep
- High On Life
- HYPERVIOLENT
- Impaler
- Just King
- LEGOĀ® Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
- Loot River
- Lost in Random
- Lost Ruins
- Madshot
- Mago
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
- Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
- New Tales from the Borderlands
- Noita
- Piko Interactive LLC various oldies
- Prince of Persia (various)
- Project Warlock II
- Prototype 1 and 2
- Resident Evil 4 (New)
- River City Girls 2
- River City Girls Zero
- River City Melee : Battle Royal Special
- River City Melee Mach!!
- River City: Rival Showdown
- River City Saga: Three Kingdoms
- Rogue: Genesia
- Seasons after Fall
- Sir Whoopass
- STASIS: BONE TOTEM
- Super Catboy
- The Knight Witch
- The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
- Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy
- Ultratron
- ULTRAKILL
- UNSIGHTED
- Void Scrappers
- Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
- Warhammer 40,000: Shootas, Blood & Teef
- Windbound
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
2024.05.21 14:50 Zoliv13 [H] Bundle games from Humble/Fanatical/IG [W] Wishlist/Offers (Update 21/05/2024)
Hello,
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
submitted by Zoliv13 to SteamGameSwap [link] [comments]
I'd like some fair exchange for those, i'm willing to put more than one game against a game i really want, depends on the offer. I could accept Paypal, but that's not my goal (just getting games i'd like to play). I might want to keep something in those lists, i also have some other Humble and Fanatical games i'm not sure i'll play, so they might appear one day (could be money for an exchange if you have something from my wishlist, don't hesitate to ask). I'm from Europe, that might matter for Keys or gift links. Also, i have many games now, and a lot to do yet, so i might be very picky, even for games on my wishlist (it's more a list for interesting games, that i might want in an undetermined future if i have time).
(HB Unrevealed Key = i have it still unrevealed, but will provide a key, considering the Humble view on trading games)
For people living in France, i also have some old games in boxes that i can send by post, ask me if interested.
My IGSRep page
My SGSFlair page
My GameTrade page
My Barter (come to Barter, it's so much better !)
My SteamTrade
*** I have Amazon Prime, so i already have the games that drop there ***
*** Please tell me what you're interested in in my list and don't just drop yours ***
1/2 Red Riding Hood (DIG Key)
112 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
911 Operator (HB Unrevealed Key)
A.D.M (Angels,Demons And Men) (DIG Key)
Adventure Time: Pirates of the Enchiridion (HB Unrevealed Key)
Alien Cat 2 (Indiegala Key)
Arata Haunted Asylum (DIG Key)
Arcade Paradise (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Army Men RTS (HB Unrevealed Key)
Autonauts vs Piratebots (HB Unrevealed Key)
Baba Is You (HB Unrevealed Key) (GOOD offers only)
BOMBERX (DIG Key)
Calico (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Cargo Transportation: Low Poly (Indiegala Key)
City Siege: Faction Island (Indiegala Key)
Click and Slay (Fanatical Key)
Codename Ghost Hunt (DIG Key)
Cold Cable: Lifeshift (DIG Key)
Combat Tested (Fanatical Key)
Conflict Area (DIG Key)
Conflict Area (Indiegala Key)
Crazy Sapper 3D (Indiegala Key)
Creatures Inc. (Indiegala Key)
Cube Shifter (DIG Key)
Dagon - The Eldritch Box DLC (HB Unrevealed Key)
Dark Forest (Indiegala Key)
Destroyer: The U-Boat Hunter (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Detached: Non-VR Edition (Indiegala Key)
Dezinsector (Indiegala Key)
Doodle Derby (HB Unrevealed Key)
DreamWorks Dragons: Dawn of New Riders (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: Hail to the Icons Parody Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Duke Nukem Forever: The Doctor Who Cloned Me (HB Unrevealed Key)
Endless Void (DIG Key)
EnHanced (DIG Key)
Euler Wars (DIG Key)
Excive A-1000 (Indiegala Key)
Fear Of Mine (Indiegala Key)
Fishermurs (Indiegala Key)
Flyist (DIG Key)
Forep Man (DIG Key)
Frick, Inc. (HB Unrevealed Key)
GAI Stops Auto: Right Version (Indiegala Key)
GALAXIUM (DIG Key)
GOD's DEATH (DIG Key)
Gravityball/Space Hockey (DIG Key)
HOGuru Presents: The House With Too Many Zombies In It (DIG Key)
Il Sole e la Luna (DIG Key)
GameGuru (HB Unrevealed Key)
Hack 'n' Slash (HB Unrevealed Key)
HoloSprint (DIG Key)
Hotel Transylvania 3: Monsters Overboard (HB Unrevealed Key)
Incandescent (DIG Key)
Intelligence (Indiegala Key)
Izmir: An Independence Simulator (HB Unrevealed Key)
Jumanji: The Video Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Legendary Eleven (DIG Key)
LifeZ - Survival (DIG Key)
Lord of the Click 3 (Indiegala Key)
L.S.S II (DIG Key)
Lust from Beyond: M Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mechs & Mercs: Black Talons (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Meeple Station (HB Unrevealed Key)
Mello Haunted House (DIG Key)
Minute of Islands (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
MirrorMoon EP (HB Unrevealed Key)
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes (HB Unrevealed Key)
NAVALNY: A Nightmare of Corrupt (DIG Key)
NeverSynth (Indiegala Key)
NIGHT FALLEN (DIG Key)
Oracle Trials (DIG Key)
Orbital Racer (HB Unrevealed Key)
Patriots: Back to Civilization (DIG Key)
Paw Patrol: On A Roll (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Planet TD (HB Unrevealed Key)
POBEDA (Indiegala Key)
Quantum Replica (Fanatical Key) x2
Raccoon: The Orc Invasion (DIG Key)
Railroad Tycoon 3 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Rogue Bots (DIG Key)
Shiba Army (DIG Key)
Sid Meier's Railroads! (HB Unrevealed Key)
Sit on bottle (Indiegala Key)
Slime Up (DIG Key)
Snowboard (DIG Key)
Soul Grabber (DIG Key)
Soulstice (HB Unrevealed Key)
SPACE ACCIDENT (Indiegala Key)
Space BloX (DIG Key)
Spider-Robots War (Indiegala Key)
Stacking (HB Unrevealed Key)
Starlight Alliance (DIG Key)
StarCrossed (HB Unrevealed Key)
Steel Vampire (Indiegala Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (HB Unrevealed Key)
Stick Fight: The Game (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection (HB Unrevealed Key)
Supreme Ruler Cold War (Fanatical Key)
Swag and Sorcery (HB Unrevealed Key)
Swords and Soldiers 2 Shawarmageddon (Fanatical Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
System Shock: Enhanced Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
Telefrag VR (HB Unrevealed Key)
Teleglitch: Die More Edition (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Amazing American Circus (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Big SokoBang (DIG Key)
The Detective Chapters: Part One (DIG Key)
The Inner World (HB Unrevealed Key)
The Invisible Hand (HB Unrevealed Key)
THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV STEAM EDITION (Fanatical Key) (GOOD offers only)
The Orphan A Tale of An Errant Ghost - Hidden Object Game (DIG Key)
Ticket to Ride (HB Unrevealed Key)
Time Lock VR 2 (Indiegala Key)
Townsmen - A Kingdom Rebuilt (HB Unrevealed Key)
Tricone Lab (Indiegala Key)
Tristoy (Steam Gift)
Turbo Golf Racing (HB Unrevealed Key)
Vampire Survivors (Fanatical Unrevealed Key)
Waves of the Atlantide (DIG Key)
Weapons Genius (Indiegala Key)
Win The Diamond (DIG Key)
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack (HB Unrevealed Key)
Yet Another Hero Story (Indiegala Key)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK Vol. 2 (HB Unrevealed Key)
Zack 2: Celeste's Map (Indiegala Key)
Zen Cube (DIG Key)
Zibbs - Alien Survival (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Claus (Indiegala Key)
Zombie Wars (DIG Key)
Removed / Banned / Delisted / Purchase Disabled games :
- Afterfall Insanity Extended Edition
- Archery Practice VR
- Be King
- Beast Boxing Turbo
- Betrayer
- Blackwater Bayou VR
- Cloud Chamber
- Defenders of Ardania
- Depths of Fear :: Knossos
- Dollar Dash
- Droplitz
- eXceed - Gun Bullet Children
- Grind Zones
- Leviathan: Warships
- Magicka: Wizards of the Square Tablet
- On The Path
- Peaky Blinders: Mastermind
- Quadrant M4
- Quixzel Rush: Pumpkin Bash
- Quixzel Rush: Tooth Protector
- Run Away
- Shadows: Price For Our Sins Bonus Edition
- Sine Mora + Ex
- Space Rangers
- Spaceguy 2
- Star Shield Down
- Trials of The Illuminati: Animated Christmas Time Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Assorted Jigsaws
- Trials of The Illuminati: Snack Time Jigsaw Puzzles
- Trials of The Illuminati: Women of Beauty Jigsaws
- Two Brothers
- World War 1 Centennial Edition
- ZombieRush
- A Game of Dwarves
- A New Beginning - Final Cut
- A New Beginning
- A Valley Without Wind
- Abandon Ship
- Alien Spidy
- Aliens versus Predator Classic 2000
- Angvik
- Animals
- Anna - Extended Edition
- AquaNox
- Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation
- Astervoid 2000 Soundtrack
- Aura: Fate of the Ages
- Avencast
- Bad Rats
- Bang Bang Racing
- Beat Hazard
- Beat Hazard Complete
- Bionic Heart 2 - Deluxe Edition
- Bionic Heart
- BlazeRush
- CAPSULE
- Car Mechanic Simulator 2014
- Cargo! - The quest for gravity
- Ceville
- Commander: Conquest of the Americas
- Commandos 3: Destination Berlin
- Contagion
- Crash Time 3
- Dangerous platform
- Dark Fall: Lost Souls
- Dark Fear
- Darwinia
- Darwinia Soundtrack
- Dead Hungry Diner
- Deadly 30
- Deep Dungeons of Doom
- Demigod
- Deponia
- DESOLATE
- Disciples II: Galleans Return
- Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
- Dragon Blast DLC
- Driftmoon
- Drop Hunt - Adventure Puzzle
- Dungeons - The Dark Lord
- El Matador
- Escape From Russia: Mobilization
- Europa Universalis III Chronicles
- Fated Souls 3
- Fester Mudd - Episode 1
- Figment
- Final Slam 2
- Finding Teddy
- Flatout
- Flower Shop: Summer In Fairbrook
- Galactic Civilizations I: Ultimate Edition
- Ghost Master
- Girlfriend Rescue
- Going Under
- Grand Ages Rome Gold
- Grav Blazer
- Greed: Black Border
- Grotesque Tactics 2
- Grotesque Tactics: Evil Heroes
- Hacker Evolution Source Code
- Hail To The King
- Hard Reset Extended Edition
- Heileen 2: The Hands Of Fate
- Hell Let Loose - Hot Drop (DLC)
- Hero by Chance
- Holy Avatar vs. Maidens of the Dead
- Home
- Huntsman: The Orphanage
- Imperial Glory
- inMomentum
- Ion Assault
- Just Ignore Them
- Kalaban
- KAMI
- Kingdom Wars 4 - The Plague: Kingdom Wars
- Knights of Honor
- Konung 2
- Konung 3
- Labyrinthine Dreams
- LEAVES - The Return
- Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards: Reloaded
- LYNE
- M.U.D. TV
- Majesty 2
- Mata Hari
- Maverta Island
- Megabyte Punch
- Memory Booster
- Men of War: Assault Squad GOTY
- Mind: Path to Thalamus
- Miner Wars 2081
- Mini Motor Racing
- Molecular Warfare
- Multiwinia
- NASCAR Heat Evolution
- Night Wanderings
- Norega Barracks + Academy DLC
- Oil Rush Bundle
- One Finger Death Punch 2
- Onikira - Demon Killer
- Overcast - Walden and the Werewolf
- Patrician IV
- Patrician IV Gold
- Perimeter
- Pixel Heroes: Byte & Magic
- PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate
- Planets Under Attack
- Plush
- Poof
- Praetorians
- Primal Carnage
- Purgatory: War of the Damned
- Puzzle Art: Cats
- Puzzle Kingdoms
- Quell
- Quell Memento
- Quell Reflect
- R.I.P.D.: The Game
- Race! Beauty! Bugs!
- Razor2: Hidden Skies
- Red Faction Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered + Armageddon Bundle With DLC (Nordic D)
- Red Johnson's Chronicles - 1+2
- Reign: Conflict of Nations
- Rig N Roll
- Rise of Flight: Channel Battles Edition
- Sacred Gold
- Save the Dodos
- Self Shot
- Sex Chess
- Shadowgrounds Survivor
- Shannon Tweed's Attack Of The Groupies
- Skara - Starter Pack
- Skeleton Troubles
- Sky Mercenaries
- Smalles Class DLC
- Soulcraft
- Space Empires V
- Space Pilgrim Academy: Year 3
- Spirited Heart Deluxe
- Square's Route
- Star Ruler
- Steel Storm
- Stellar Interface
- Stoirs VR
- Stunt Hill
- Swamp Jump
- Sweet Lilly Dreams
- Switch Galaxy Ultra
- Switch Galaxy Ultra Charity Pack 1
- Tennis Manager 2021
- The Deed II
- The End of Labyronia: Nerubis
- The God's Chain
- The King's Heroes
- The Old City: Leviathan
- Theatre of War 2: Africa 1943
- Theatre of War
- Theatre of War: 3 - Korea
- Theatre of War: Centauro
- Theatre of War: Kursk + Caen
- Toby: The Secret Mine
- Trainz Simulator 12 - Coronation Scot DLC
- Tropico 3
- Tropico 4
- Trulon: The Shadow Engine
- Turba
- UFO Afterlight
- Ultimate Soldier
- Undefeated
- Uplink
- Us and them
- Valnir Rok
- Vault Cracker
- Vegas: Make It Big
- Velvet Assassin
- Vessel
- Victory: The Age of Racing - Steam Founder Pack
- Warriors' Wrath
- Wasteland Angel
- Who's that Flying
- Windforge
- Zombie Pirates
- Zombie Shooter
Backfirewall_ (XBox) Home Sheep Home: Farmageddon Party Edition (XBox)
Enclave HD (Nintendo Switch America Region)
Wayfinder Early Access on PS5
Wishlist :Various offers welcome, i'll browse lists, and most wanted are (not always up to date) :
- 9 Years of Shadows
- A Plague Tale: Requiem
- ABRISS
- Achilles: Legends Untold
- AFTERLIFE: KILLING DEATH
- ALTF4
- Axiom Verge
- Axiom Verge 2
- Battletoads
- Bendy and the Ink Machine
- BERSERK and the Band of the Hawk
- Blade of Darkness
- Blasphemous 2
- Bleak Faith: Forsaken
- Boneraiser Minions
- Bud Spencer & Terence Hill - Slaps And Beans 2
- CARRION
- Choo-Choo Charles
- Cookie Cutter
- Cuphead
- Deadlink
- Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons
- Dread Delusion
- Dread X Collection: The Hunt
- ELDEN RING
- Enter / Exit the Gungeon
- Gearshifters
- GetsuFumaDen: Undying Moon Delux
- Ghost Song
- Good Knight
- GRAVEN
- GTFO
- Hand of Fate 2
- Hands of Necromancy
- Hidden Deep
- High On Life
- HYPERVIOLENT
- Impaler
- Just King
- LEGOĀ® Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
- Loot River
- Lost in Random
- Lost Ruins
- Madshot
- Mago
- Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
- Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
- New Tales from the Borderlands
- Noita
- Piko Interactive LLC various oldies
- Prince of Persia (various)
- Project Warlock II
- Prototype 1 and 2
- Resident Evil 4 (New)
- River City Girls 2
- River City Girls Zero
- River City Melee : Battle Royal Special
- River City Melee Mach!!
- River City: Rival Showdown
- River City Saga: Three Kingdoms
- Rogue: Genesia
- Seasons after Fall
- Sir Whoopass
- STASIS: BONE TOTEM
- Super Catboy
- The Knight Witch
- The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
- Trine 5: A Clockwork Conspiracy
- Ultratron
- ULTRAKILL
- UNSIGHTED
- Void Scrappers
- Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
- Warhammer 40,000: Shootas, Blood & Teef
- Windbound
See here for the rest of my wishlist.
Compare2Steam
+ offers, i'll browse lists, and eventually take Paypal, but i'm more interested in Paypal & TF2, but i'm more interested in games trades
2024.05.21 14:46 Best-Abies4960 Am I delusional?
Should I give up and move on? I donāt really know why Iām even asking the question because deep down I know the answer. At the end of last year I (23 M) was dating this girl (20 F). She studies in a different city so we didnāt see each other that much but we connected very well, and very soon I was starting to fall hard for her. After a few parties together we were spending the weekend together. This went very well and for the first time in my life I was in love. I have to tell you also that I have never been in a relationship before and I was a virgin. She knew this but didnāt make a big deal out of it which I loved. This weekend was a week before Christmas. We verbally agreed that we would see each other on new years evening.
When the day finally arrived I hadnāt heard from her so I texted her saying where we could meet that night. She responded with this long text saying that Iām a fun and sweet guy but that she would rather be alone than to date with someone. I was completely shocked and my world was shattered. I stared at my phone for a half hour. I didāt text anything back feeling a little bit angry, why would she sent this to me on new years eve? So that night, I got really really drunk. I was drinking away my sorrow. I went to a club and got home with some random girl and we had sex. Need I remind you again that it was my first time. When I woke up I felt sooo bad. I only wanted to be with the girl I was in love with and now Iām laying here with someone random. I made up an excuse on why she had to leave and texted the girl Iām in love with that I appreciated her honesty but that I didnāt understand why. She texted me later that evening that she didnāt really know what she was doing and that she wanted to meet again. I was happy but in the back of my mind I was thinking about what I did on new years eve.
So we went on dates again but I couldnāt get it over me to tell what happened because I just got her back and was too afraid to loose her again. You also have to know that I had 6 exams in this period so I had to study hard. On the 5th of january she spent the night at my place and we also had sex. After this I felt extremely guilty. I made a vow to myself that after the exams I should tell her. Because I really loved her and any chance I had of a real relationship with her should be based on honesty. So after my last exam on february the 5th I went to her place and I told her. She was really angry and told me it was for the best to go away.
In the days that followed I gave her space and didnāt text her. After a while I texted her but she said she wishes me the best but wants to move on and that she doesnāt want to see me anymore. After that there has been no contact. I saw her twice since then on parties. When I saw her she was nice and the connection was still there but she refuses to sit and talk with me. Last time I saw her was a month ago where we talked for a bit. She was acting really weird. Like super nice one moment and then the other moment really angry. Then she was ignoring me the whole time and when I got to her to tell her that Iām leaving she is back to being sweet and asking me to stay. What bugs her the most is that in her eyes I faked my virginity.
It now has been almost 4 months (longer than we were together) but there hasnāt been a day were I havenāt thought about her. I canāt seem to let her go. I am still hoping that everything will be alright but I know it wonāt. I just love her so much and regret everything that has happened. I just donāt see myself ever dating anyone else but her. I know that if she was still interested she would just text me but every time I see her it just feels like there is something still there. When I see her friends they tell me that they donāt understand why she wonāt take me back. That has to count for something right?
In august she is going to study abroad for the semester. So I know the timing is all wrong but I feel like I have to try one last time. I know I am going to see her 1 last time on this festival we bought tickets for together while we were still dating. A week before the festival itās her birthday. I am thinking now maybe I should sent her flowers on her birthday with a cute text but Iām not really sure.
Am I just being delusional? I really donāt know what to doā¦. Sorry for the big text, for anyone that gets to the end thank you very much
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When the day finally arrived I hadnāt heard from her so I texted her saying where we could meet that night. She responded with this long text saying that Iām a fun and sweet guy but that she would rather be alone than to date with someone. I was completely shocked and my world was shattered. I stared at my phone for a half hour. I didāt text anything back feeling a little bit angry, why would she sent this to me on new years eve? So that night, I got really really drunk. I was drinking away my sorrow. I went to a club and got home with some random girl and we had sex. Need I remind you again that it was my first time. When I woke up I felt sooo bad. I only wanted to be with the girl I was in love with and now Iām laying here with someone random. I made up an excuse on why she had to leave and texted the girl Iām in love with that I appreciated her honesty but that I didnāt understand why. She texted me later that evening that she didnāt really know what she was doing and that she wanted to meet again. I was happy but in the back of my mind I was thinking about what I did on new years eve.
So we went on dates again but I couldnāt get it over me to tell what happened because I just got her back and was too afraid to loose her again. You also have to know that I had 6 exams in this period so I had to study hard. On the 5th of january she spent the night at my place and we also had sex. After this I felt extremely guilty. I made a vow to myself that after the exams I should tell her. Because I really loved her and any chance I had of a real relationship with her should be based on honesty. So after my last exam on february the 5th I went to her place and I told her. She was really angry and told me it was for the best to go away.
In the days that followed I gave her space and didnāt text her. After a while I texted her but she said she wishes me the best but wants to move on and that she doesnāt want to see me anymore. After that there has been no contact. I saw her twice since then on parties. When I saw her she was nice and the connection was still there but she refuses to sit and talk with me. Last time I saw her was a month ago where we talked for a bit. She was acting really weird. Like super nice one moment and then the other moment really angry. Then she was ignoring me the whole time and when I got to her to tell her that Iām leaving she is back to being sweet and asking me to stay. What bugs her the most is that in her eyes I faked my virginity.
It now has been almost 4 months (longer than we were together) but there hasnāt been a day were I havenāt thought about her. I canāt seem to let her go. I am still hoping that everything will be alright but I know it wonāt. I just love her so much and regret everything that has happened. I just donāt see myself ever dating anyone else but her. I know that if she was still interested she would just text me but every time I see her it just feels like there is something still there. When I see her friends they tell me that they donāt understand why she wonāt take me back. That has to count for something right?
In august she is going to study abroad for the semester. So I know the timing is all wrong but I feel like I have to try one last time. I know I am going to see her 1 last time on this festival we bought tickets for together while we were still dating. A week before the festival itās her birthday. I am thinking now maybe I should sent her flowers on her birthday with a cute text but Iām not really sure.
Am I just being delusional? I really donāt know what to doā¦. Sorry for the big text, for anyone that gets to the end thank you very much
2024.05.21 14:43 Voixmortelle Suggestions for how to make my girlfriend feel more like "one of the girls"
I'm a cis woman and my girlfriend is trans. She's 30 and her egg cracked around 26-27, but she hasn't done any of the medical transitioning she'd like to do because she's afraid. And for good reason, we live in the rural southeastern US where people aren't really accepting of trans folks much at all. She could lose her job and most of her family and friends if she fully came out and started transitioning, so she masks (mascs?) in public for the most part and only really presents femme around me and some of our friends.
Because she has such little time to be her real self, I like to try to make the most of it whenever she does. I like to plan little events and surprise her with them, just things that she missed out on by not being allowed to grow up as a girl. For example, me, her, and two of our closest girlfriends are doing a sleepover movie night in a couple of weeks and we're planning on doing all of the sleepover traditions. Cute pajamas, scary stories, painting each other's nails, eating a ton of junk food, all of that.
Since I grew up as a girl I don't really know what she might or might not feel like she missed. I don't really have a frame of reference, you know? And of course I could talk to her about it (and I have, don't worry), but I also like to surprise her so I was hoping for some advice from some other trans ladies.
My question is this: What "girly things" do you wish you could've done or been part of when you were younger? If you ARE younger, what things do you do or participate in that make you feel more like "one of the girls"? Preferably things I can somehow recreate for her, but even if not I'd like to hear y'all's stories.
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Because she has such little time to be her real self, I like to try to make the most of it whenever she does. I like to plan little events and surprise her with them, just things that she missed out on by not being allowed to grow up as a girl. For example, me, her, and two of our closest girlfriends are doing a sleepover movie night in a couple of weeks and we're planning on doing all of the sleepover traditions. Cute pajamas, scary stories, painting each other's nails, eating a ton of junk food, all of that.
Since I grew up as a girl I don't really know what she might or might not feel like she missed. I don't really have a frame of reference, you know? And of course I could talk to her about it (and I have, don't worry), but I also like to surprise her so I was hoping for some advice from some other trans ladies.
My question is this: What "girly things" do you wish you could've done or been part of when you were younger? If you ARE younger, what things do you do or participate in that make you feel more like "one of the girls"? Preferably things I can somehow recreate for her, but even if not I'd like to hear y'all's stories.
2024.05.21 14:42 Morticeq Alexandrian Remix: Bloody Cyst & Blood Citadel
Hi all. My party has finally found all pieces of Dream Machine yesterday, and they are now planning on retrieving the sword from the Bloody Cyst. I have a bit of a problem with the way Remix handles this:
Some changes I plan on doing:
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The citadel cannot be seen; it is completely subsumed by the Cyst.This I find a bit problematic, after reading the Chapter 4: Scab, I absolutely love this disgusting three-dimensional dungeon. I struggle with aligning the dungeon and the fact that it's supposed to be completely empty because of Remix reasons. If the Scab/Bloody Cyst covered the citadel completely, but demons, devils and yugoloths were still excavating the flesh, the actual entrance can still be hidden, no? And it can still be a compelling dungeon with almost all of the enemies and encounters.
No one knows that this is where the Sword of Zariel lies hidden. As noted previously, this secret is held only in Luluās lost memories.
Therefore, there are no devils or demons here excavating the site. (You could have them here just harvesting the bloody pulp of the cyst for one reason or another, but youād want to make significant changes to the key.)
Some changes I plan on doing:
- S10 Crokek'toeck won't be here, but it would still make sense to have him here, since what else is better to keep nomming on with its eternal hunger, than an eternal flesh mound, but I will place it in a different hex.
- S14 - Entrance will be completely sealed off. There won't be any way to enter the room, or a room to speak of. Players will have to dig there, while Lulu can help navigating towards it. Players have Geas'd an imp, which will get progressively more and more confused to a point of an absolute mind wipe the closer he gets to the entrance. I am playing with the idea that any fiend that gets too close will get confused (confusion spell effects) - 120ft distance DC 10, 100ft DC 14, and increasing DC by 4 every 20ft. If a fiend spends one minute under the effects of this confusion they are subconsciously going to try to leave the area of effect and not remember anything while under the effect of confusion. This can explain why there isn't any tunnel leading to the door, why there isn't any room around the door as well, and why no fiend has found the citadel, or a sword as well.
- Trantolox will catch up with the party once they uncover the entrance to the citadel. It still wants the sword for Yeenoghu, but only because Mad Maggie talked about the Sword and Dream Machine to her bartender at the Well - Tasha. She then told this information to her previous lover Graz'zt, as an interesting gossip, and before players can get to the Bloody Cyst, Yeenoghu's forces have been dispatched to retrieve the sword. I am sure that there is a long rest, plus travel, plus the players will undoubtedly want to short rest in the dungeon, so that leaves plenty of time for demons to arrive there as well. I think that I should make it and the three Bulezaus' immune to confusion effects, but I am not sure of how exactly to do this.
- S6 - Alazub will be imprisoned here, yes, he is loyal to Zariel, but he's been caught by other demons, not Trantolox, and has some information about some rooms in the dungeon, its features, and will also react if players mention the Sword in front of him.
- S9 and S10 - No diggy demons here, no Crokek'toeck. This area is harder to dig, after about a foot deep it turns into a bone, and it's 10 feet thick and surrounds the entire area of S10. It has a vague shape of a skull, which could be noticed by a character with proficiency in medicine, and players can try to find a softer spot on the bottom part of the room (bottom-left on the map) with a successful DC17 Medicine or Investigation check. This area can be used for a short rest safely, as the tunnel they dug to get here regrows within one minute of entering the room.
- S2 - Divine sense shows a consecrated aura coming from one of the walls of this room, and Detect Magic shows a faint abjuration aura as well, from somewhere behind the flesh wall. If players decide to dig into it, they reveal the window as described in the module.
- S11 - No vrocks. I don't like using them, and I feel like they're overused. Instead there will be three Gnoll Fangs
2024.05.21 14:42 Ok-Focus8003 My girlfriend (23f) of 3 years told me (23m)that she caught felling for someone else, is this a case to move on?
Hello, Iām sorry for my poor English on advance . Yesterday my girlfriend told that she caught for someone she works with. For context, weāve been dating for 3 years. Iām a work from home guy and she is doing her master degree, I can say that I have my life pretty much oriented but not the same for her sheās doing her master degree sheās doing and itās the phase that she needs to write the thesis
She had a opportunity to start this master degree far from where I was and I made a decision with her to move to another city so she can stay near the lab and make a leaving there, so with that we start leaving together for about 5 months. Also financly sheās struggling because she doesnt have any income and her parents are the ones that are helping with expenses Im also helping with everything I can but sheās has been not coping with that and with the thesis so she sheās in a very tuff spot about her life
With that I feel like our relationship has been great until about a week ago where she started to distance herself from me, I asked several times what was happening and she told me that she didnāt want to talk about that in those moments so I respected it and I had patience, until yersterday that she told this bad news, she told that she didn t acted on those feelings and I believe her, I love her so much I donāt want to throw way all the investment I put in these relationship, I made lot o sacrifices but I feel so hurt by all of this. She told that Iām the best thing that happened to her life and doesnt know why she has fellings for this other guy! I donāt now what to do!?
Also one thing like this happened before where she told she felt physical attraction for someone else but after some discussion and time we managed to heal and stay together, and now I feel like itās happening again but now is not physical attraction but feelings and it hurts more !
Iām hopeful after everything but also donāt know what to do if I shoul end this right now or see if she fights for this relationship but even if she does itās now going to be easy I just donāt want to give up but I donāt know
Should I try to move on or should I talk to her a sense of reconciliation?
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She had a opportunity to start this master degree far from where I was and I made a decision with her to move to another city so she can stay near the lab and make a leaving there, so with that we start leaving together for about 5 months. Also financly sheās struggling because she doesnt have any income and her parents are the ones that are helping with expenses Im also helping with everything I can but sheās has been not coping with that and with the thesis so she sheās in a very tuff spot about her life
With that I feel like our relationship has been great until about a week ago where she started to distance herself from me, I asked several times what was happening and she told me that she didnāt want to talk about that in those moments so I respected it and I had patience, until yersterday that she told this bad news, she told that she didn t acted on those feelings and I believe her, I love her so much I donāt want to throw way all the investment I put in these relationship, I made lot o sacrifices but I feel so hurt by all of this. She told that Iām the best thing that happened to her life and doesnt know why she has fellings for this other guy! I donāt now what to do!?
Also one thing like this happened before where she told she felt physical attraction for someone else but after some discussion and time we managed to heal and stay together, and now I feel like itās happening again but now is not physical attraction but feelings and it hurts more !
Iām hopeful after everything but also donāt know what to do if I shoul end this right now or see if she fights for this relationship but even if she does itās now going to be easy I just donāt want to give up but I donāt know
Should I try to move on or should I talk to her a sense of reconciliation?
2024.05.21 14:40 ahh_itsarian Beats Studio Buds + review
So i bought the regular studio buds in blue for my father, and pink for my girlfriend (which she thinks is so cute) and i have to say, the sound on them are pretty decent compared to regular airpods, definitely better on clarity and bass in my opinion. You can hear every note, snare, beat, etc. Are they worth 150$? Absolutely not. But if you buy a pair from a trustworthy tech shop on ebay in good condition for 40-60$ā¦ it is most definitely worth it.
Now onto the beats studio buds plus. Oh my days, the noise cancelling is almost twice as better. The microphone has been drastically improved for better call quality and voice isolation from background noise. You could be in a loud warehouse, busy street, or around the house with the kids and nobody on the other line would ever know!!! Your voice sounds so clear if you record a voice note. Once you play music, the bass is still punchy but they improved the overall sound quality on these and fixed the treble. Transparency mode is okay, not the best unless you set your music at like 40-60%ā¦ anything above that makes it hard to be aware of your surroundings. Are they worth 170$? I want to say yes, but iād rather buy them barely used in good condition for 50-70$ šcause why spend the extra money?? How do they stack up compared to airpod pros? Theyāre definitely up there, depending on your taste in music because airpod pros have a more refined sound to them. The beats are better for bassy genres like drill, hip hop, r&b, house music, techno, reggaeton, dominican music (for sure lmao). The airpod pros would probably be slightly better for pop and country. The airpod pros have better transparency mode and slightly better noise cancelling. The microphone/call quality on the airpod pros are garbage compared to beats, so well done to the Beats studio buds+ in that department!!
I have already ordered the beats fit pros in sage gray so i will either make a new post about those or just update this post later on in time. Cheers fellas!!!
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Now onto the beats studio buds plus. Oh my days, the noise cancelling is almost twice as better. The microphone has been drastically improved for better call quality and voice isolation from background noise. You could be in a loud warehouse, busy street, or around the house with the kids and nobody on the other line would ever know!!! Your voice sounds so clear if you record a voice note. Once you play music, the bass is still punchy but they improved the overall sound quality on these and fixed the treble. Transparency mode is okay, not the best unless you set your music at like 40-60%ā¦ anything above that makes it hard to be aware of your surroundings. Are they worth 170$? I want to say yes, but iād rather buy them barely used in good condition for 50-70$ šcause why spend the extra money?? How do they stack up compared to airpod pros? Theyāre definitely up there, depending on your taste in music because airpod pros have a more refined sound to them. The beats are better for bassy genres like drill, hip hop, r&b, house music, techno, reggaeton, dominican music (for sure lmao). The airpod pros would probably be slightly better for pop and country. The airpod pros have better transparency mode and slightly better noise cancelling. The microphone/call quality on the airpod pros are garbage compared to beats, so well done to the Beats studio buds+ in that department!!
I have already ordered the beats fit pros in sage gray so i will either make a new post about those or just update this post later on in time. Cheers fellas!!!
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2024.05.21 14:38 cyberkittenxo i hate my life
i have a girlfriend, we got together last year and this march was our 1st year being together. we were in high school then, now i moved to another country. we're doing ldr.idk when im going to see her again, we used to be so close, she was my first love and i was the first for her. we used to talk a lot, i've never been close to someone like this, including my parents. when i was a kid i used to be alone, no one would talk to me, when i found her i felt something that i never did. i prayed for her to never leave when she left. when her parents found out they told me to leave, now she talks to me without her parents knowing about it. recently her texts are getting dry, i have to ask for everything. she doesnt talk all day, when she goes to sleep she just sends a picture of her, says i love you with some emojis and sleeps. its just that she doesnt talk to me all day, i just cant be the same person i used to be before that, i have attachment issues, and i feel like she doesnt understand that, ive tried explaining but she apologizes every time and never changes it. whenever she goes offline she doesnt say anything and comes back after an hour or two. i have literal breakdowns in that hour, i keep crying i cant control it, i have parents but i dont show it to them. i say that im using the restroom but all i do is cry, and when she comes back its already night for her and its the same thing again, it happens all day and i cant keep doing this. she cries when i ask her to leave me. i cant keep doing this, i dont want to make her cry, i love her. i cant sleep or do anything in peace. i have so much ahead of me, i have good grades, i go to a good college, i have loving parents, but i cant do this relationship thing im so clingy i cant even have my food, its like i ran away from a hospital where they treat patients with mental disorder. i hate being like this all day. i tried everything to not think about anything, but its been a week since i said that and i still cry everyday. i felt like if i had it off my chest it would be somehow better. idk if ill make it to next morning, but i hate doing this everyday.
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2024.05.21 14:34 Secure_Balance6515 Held at gunpoint in dream. Help me understand.
Long story short. Met a man during a rough patch in my relationship. As things started to progress I would pull away and go silent but he would always keep in touch. I started to develop feelings for him but deep down I knew this was nothing more than a state of lust. I knew I wasnāt leaving my bf but entertained the āwhat ifāsā.
Once when we hung out he playfully choked me and said āIām not a toy, Iām not to be played with.ā I definitely took note of this.
I ended up ghosting him with no explanation and getting back with my bf. We go to the same gym so I still see him but we donāt speak.
DREAM
I had a dream that I was in a nightclub and I could see his face clear as day. He walked up to me and mumbled something before pointing a gun at me. Thatās all that I remember.
What if anything does this mean?
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Once when we hung out he playfully choked me and said āIām not a toy, Iām not to be played with.ā I definitely took note of this.
I ended up ghosting him with no explanation and getting back with my bf. We go to the same gym so I still see him but we donāt speak.
DREAM
I had a dream that I was in a nightclub and I could see his face clear as day. He walked up to me and mumbled something before pointing a gun at me. Thatās all that I remember.
What if anything does this mean?