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2024.05.16 08:10 Sad-Pop6649 Lunetten, Utrecht, Netherlands, a higher density green suburb?
 | https://preview.redd.it/8yds0x4mdq0d1.png?width=1482&format=png&auto=webp&s=92f6de754e519475997b6af36b838a95b80ae404 submitted by Sad-Pop6649 to Suburbanhell [link] [comments] This might end up as a bit of a weird post. But mostly a very long one. I donât think this place Iâm presenting here is heaven, but without SuburbHeaven Thursday this subreddit may give viewers the idea that weâre all just hating, and this case study may help illustrate some of the alternatives and what one could like and dislike about them. I know that yelling âthe Netherlands!â on any urbanist platform is overdone and so 2 years ago, but I also feel like the available âNetherlands!â content is giving people an incomplete picture. So Iâm going to discuss a suburban neighborhood, Lunetten, in Utrecht, where Iâve lived for about a year now. Itâs a place built in the 70âs and 80âs, housing about 11,000 people in 5,500ish homes, for a density of just over 4,000 people/km2, 10,000 per square mile. Obviously thatâs pretty dense. In a North American context Lunetten may count more as an example of the âmissing middleâ than a true suburb, but I feel it still works as a comparison because it is situated at the edge of a city* and it offers features people often look to the suburbs for, like a low noise environment, plenty of green and child oriented features. So, what can we find in this example that people may like or dislike in their suburban areas? If you want to look along on your favorite online map: 52° 3'53 N, 5° 8'13 E. Traffic and transit Lunetten has a clear main road (middle left image, bright pink line on the map) that serves as the main way of getting around by car. It is the only road where the limit is 50 km/h (30 mph), not 30 km/h. The main road has priority over all side roads, indicated by the exits or all side streets being raised a bit. The speed bump automatically makes one slow down to yield to the traffic on the main road. In the places where peopleâs front doors open towards this main ring there are service roads for them to do their parking and loading and such on. In the busiest part of the ring the road was raised a few meters so pedestrians and cyclists can pass underneath through tunnels. So while the maximum speed cars can go on most of the roads in this place is quite low, the time to destination is pretty good, because a lot was done to ensure a good flow of traffic. A more debatable feature is the lack of through-traffic options. If you want to leave Lunetten by car there are two roads leading West, connecting to the rest of the city and to the 70km/h raised road that serves as the exit from the city. There is also one small road going South-East along the train line, and thatâs it. Despite being next to two highways Lunetten has no direct on- and off-ramp accessing it, and even no direct way across the highways for cars. Cyclists and pedestrians do have options leading in basically all directions. On the one hand this does wonders for how quiet the neighborhood is, but on the other hand that one road taking people in and out of the city is still more prone to blocking than a direct ramp to the highway, so car owners will experience some travel delays because of this. Lunetten is no public transit hotspot, but there are like two bus lines both going to more connected places including the cityâs central hub, and the train station is two stops from said hub as well, which happens to be the biggest train station in the Netherlands. Public Spaces Even by Dutch standards Lunetten has a pretty urban-ish density. Thereâs a mix of mostly rowhouses and midrise apartment buildings, mostly gallery flats up to 5 stories tall, including the ground floor. To give you an idea of Dutch standards for density: I grew up in a commuter town of about the same size as Lunetten, housing 1,000 less people (present day numbers) on roughly 1.25 times the surface**. But what I find interesting is what that space is used for. In Lunetten, on the outer ring of the neighborhood, adjacent to the two highways, busy raised road and train line that surround the neighborhood, there are quite sizable parks (bottom right picture). Thereâs plenty of space for dogs to run off their leash, there are football/play fields, there are two skate parks, two ponds for amphibians to spend the winter in (granted: thatâs an amenity most people could live without) and an entire petting zoo, in case you had doubts this was a suburb. Together with a football/soccer club, a tennis club, some allotment gardens and a small business park near the train station these parks take up most of the space where traffic noise is an issue. There is room for recreation and other daytime activities in the noisy bits (there are sound screens, but thatâs not blocking all of the noise) so that peoplesâ homes can mostly be in the quiet parts, shielded from noise by trees and stuff. And then thereâs the neighborhood interior. Youâll see on the map a few yellow locations marked as âplayground/squareâ, but in reality many, probably most, of the dark green âcourtyardsâ contain a little playground too. All of the courtyards have grass, most if not all of them have trees, many of those trees being taller than the midrises. Some of the courtyards feature parking space as well***. The middle right image is far from the greenest example. The combination of the parks and the courtyards make Lunetten much greener than the actual smallish town I lived in mentioned previously. Plenty of birds live here too, including a bunch of water birds who enjoy the ditches and canals. In the smallish town much more of the space was simply used for row houses with pretty large gardens, and in the newer parts a bunch of four home and two home units and free standing homes as well****. Which brings me to the reality check. With all these pedestrianized public spaces around and loads of playgrounds, is Lunetten actually a good neighborhood to raise kids? From what I can tell, opinions are mixed. Because one thing that does tend to come with density of people is density of crime. In my year here I have personally witnessed a man snorting coke off his bicycle saddle, in broad daylight, in the middle of a bike lane near a skatepark with playing children in it*****. There is also the occasional lost shopping cart dumped in a canal and apparently there was a pretty shocking supermarket robbery just before I moved in. Especially if your budget only allows for an apartment and not a house I could imagine feeling a little scared to let young children wander around near the house on their own, also maybe because of the canals and ditches they might fall into. The sweet spot age for children in Lunetten is probably around 9-12, old enough to be trusted with their own safety around water and some minor drug use and vandalism, yet young enough to fully enjoy all the outdoor play space. The blame for the crime is often put on the street pattern that is said to attract drug dealers and the like who love having good get away options, and the many green public spaces and nice dry apartment building entrances are certainly not the worst place a homeless person could go to for another night of hopefully not being bothered by the police. More recently developed neighborhoods have tried to avoid these effects by using a âcauliflower patternâ for their streets, branched streets ending in a bunch of (at least to cars) dead ends. The downside of that pattern seems to be less sense of community. The more direct neighbors you have, the more interaction. Thatâs why cul-de-sacs can be so isolating after all. Lunetten is not the worst crimey part of its parent by a long shot, but itâs noticeable enough to be worth mentioning. A planned neighborhood The big advantage I think Lunetten has over a lot of other places is that it was designed in one go. The land it was built on was part of the Dutch Water Line******, and had to stay free of buildings and obstructions that would block the firing lines of defending artillery. (Thatâs what the two weird shapes in the northern park are: old fortifications, called Lunette 3 and 4. Hence the suburbâs name.) When the line was legally disbanded in 1963 Utrecht started planning to build a new neighborhood here. Because of the highways (current configuration built at the same time as the suburb) and the train line that surround the place it was very clear to where the neighborhood would stretch. And it shows. The suburb is designed as a cohesive whole. Thereâs a neighborhood shopping center (bottom left image and the main soft pink blob on the map) at the heart of the neighborhood. It has two supermarkets, some small other shops, several small fast food/lunch places in different styles, two bicycle shops and repair places (itâs the Netherlands), a restaurant (thereâs another one on one of the forts in the park, which doubles as a sort of social work place), a community center which houses some clubs and such (not the scouts, those have a place in one of the parks) as well as a library. Thereâs even a bar (I think, I should maybe go there ones), and some space where small neighborhood markets and events turn up with some regularity. The other main soft pink and yellow blob in a convenient central location on the map is two elementary schools*******. In many more organically grown neighborhoods or places the amenities wouldnât be so conveniently centralized or would eventually be âcentralizedâ on the outskirt of town. The Bijlmer comparison, what not to do Another interesting point of comparison I think is the Bijlmer (Bijlmermeer officially) in Amsterdam, another green neighborhood designed as one big plan outside of its parent cityâs core, yet quite different. The Bijlmer is nationally famous as a bit of a ghetto, a place where you donât want to live. (To be fair: the plane falling down on it didnât help its case.) A lot of work has been done to improve the place, but its initial âghettoizationâ was surprising because the Bijlmer was never intended to even be particularly affordable, but more of a vertical suburb, spacious family apartments (around 120 m2) for 100,000 people or more in large highrise buildings with between them plenty of green. A quiet place, with quick access to the city, using density to save on land use and travel time. There are three main differences I see between the struggling Bijlmer and âdoing pretty wellâ Lunetten: 1 The Bijlmer has a higher density through the use of massive apartment buildings, literally and figuratively increasing the distance between peopleâs homes and the public space. 2 The Bijlmer is a much bigger place, Iâm not sure they ever got to those 100,000 inhabitants, but it certainly loses that towny vibe. 3 Theyâve been correcting this in the rebabilitation, but as designed the Bijlmer had basically no amenities. It wasnât a town or city, it was people storage, housing for people who mentally lived several kilometers away but couldnât afford it there. See the rest of this subreddit for why that doesnât work for many people. Interdependency with other suburbs Looking back on growing up in that smallish town I notice that there really isnât that much of a difference in amenities. The town offered much of the same things Lunetten does. But Lunettenâs status as a suburb gives it a big advantage over that town. Because while suburbs mostly serve themselves, they also serve each other. Take sports: thereâs a football and tennis club and two indoor sports halls in Lunetten, but what if I want to swim or throw spears instead? Well, thereâs a pool in a suburb to the North, as well as an athletics stadium. After elementary school thereâs no middle/high school in Lunetten, but there are in nearby neighborhoods, and there are even college options******** spread throughout different suburbs and neighborhoods. These things are closer than they are in a small town not because the suburb is associated with a city center, but because it is associated with other suburbs. There are things I liked about the commuter town, but having to take either an honestly too long bike trip or a bus ride that only went whenever it was not convenient for me whenever I wanted to do something my town didnât provide, like going to school, wasnât one of them. And I say that even as a spoiled person whose commuter town at least had buses and bicycle paths. Conclusion And that is I think the main takeaway from this absolute wall of text: suburbs donât have to be places where thereâs nothing to do and you feel disconnected from the world. Thatâs the entire point of living in a suburb instead of in a town: there are other places nearby. There is a balance to be found between private space, public space and connectivity. Essentially, in a neighborhood of 10,000 people, for every 100x100 meters of public space or amenities either every person gets 1 square meter less private space or everybody gets maybe a few meters of extra travel distance on the average trip. Lunetten probably provides too little private space for the taste of many North American suburbanites, but it does show I think that there is quite a bit of room on those sliders. A green place with amenities sort of near other places can still be built with more spacious houses. (Just maybe go easy on the sea of lawns?) And thatâs when all the separated bike lanes and other urbanist talking points really start making sense: when you found the balance between having your own place, having local places worth going to and being close enough to other places worth going to, then you want a good way to get there. The other takeaway I feel is that it pays to design neighborhoods as a unit. And thatâs another reason why suburbs can be better than towns. A town of 10,000 residents canât plan ahead for the next 10,000, but a city of several hundred thousand people can. And it pays off. Donât lose track of the human scale though, planning 10,000 residents ahead might actually be better than planning 100,000 or 1,000,000 residents ahead when it comes to suburbs. It is still supposed to feel like a quiet little place with maybe a bit of its own identity. * On the other side of one of the highways thereâs a bit of forest tied to several historic estates thatâs very nice for walking in as well as a golf course half as big as this entire neighborhood, this really is the edge of town and will be for the foreseeable future. ** Iâve also lived in several other cities since then, near the city center, further out and on the far edge in a highrise neighborhood. Honestly I might still prefer the smaller cities Iâve lived in, being near everything the city offers and even to some of the stuff outside of it. But work took me back to a larger city (pretend I said âless tinyâ if youâre from Mexico City or something), and I could honestly have landed in a much worse place than this particular suburb. *** Fun fact: this is one of the very few neighborhoods of Utrecht where parking is currently still free, because of enough parking space and enough distance to the city center. It really is a suburb. **** In the 90âs a style of more expensive neighborhoods called âVinexâ set standards for the ratio of more expensive to cheaper houses in those neighborhoods, and ever since both contractors and local politicians refuse to let go of those ratios everywhere. A newer, competing vision is that we shouldnât be building new neighborhoods at all, just filling in the gaps in our cities. So now we mostly build quite large houses, but only in very small spaces. Weâre still not sure where that massive housing shortage came from, somehow. ***** I stopped and addressed him because I thought he was having bicycle trouble, chain ran off or something. Quite a chill dude, very apologetic, but still maybe not exactly what the average parent is looking for in a neighbor. ****** More accurately: Holland Waterline, because it wasnât the only Dutch waterline, but it was the main one defending the part called Holland. But that sounds a bit off in English. ******* We have a bit of a weird school system, for every public elementary school there is at least one other founded on religious grounds or based on some specific didactic theory. Thatâs why there are two schools in the same central location instead of just one bigger school or two in separate locations. ******** If I start going into the differences in advanced education systems weâll be here all day, but there are options within cycling distance ranging from trade school to university, depending on the field you actually want to study *********. ********* I could start using other symbols instead of these confusingly long rows of asterisks, but where would be the fun in that? |
2024.05.16 07:31 RationalSchizo812020 Kanye and Kendrick vs Drake and The Diddler: A Conspiracy
Written 5/8/2024- updates attached below
I tried posting this on kendrick almost a week ago and it got no response, I messaged the mods to ask about Karma restrictions or account age requirements and they never replied. I made a new account and it was the same issue, but I found out last night I wasnât fully banned, so I figured Iâd throw it up and see if anyone finds it valuable. Itâs written for people who have no prior knowledge of the rap game/music business. I donât have to go as hard on obscuring names this time. One of the influencers I mentioned in my last post is known for doxxing and threatening violence against people who mention the many contradictions in their stories. (Sorry for any typos/mistakes I want to go to bed.)
Origins
I believe the current Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef is either completely or partially fabricated by certain industry leaders or the parties involved in an effort to distract from something bigger going down behind the scenes. If you were an influential label owner facing major accusations, and you needed to deflect media attention from yourself, recreating one of the most defining moments in rap history during the social media era would be a way to do it. It also wouldnât hurt that two of the biggest rappers in the world were already sending shots at each other in their music for years prior. The public consensus is they are simply two famous rappers who hate each other and fighting over the spot for the top like in the 90âs. Only people who were directly involved could paint a more cohesive picture of the whole story. Even when all the cards drop, there is a good chance the average person wonât be able to find direct sources on their own and will continue to support their favorite artists and dismiss any evidence of their crimes like the drizzy subreddit or Ak fans.
As I said the beef between Kendrick and Drake has been brewing in the background for years, with both rappers sending shots and sneak dissing each other over the course of at least 8 years. The most agreed upon origin story is the first diss was the 2016 Big Sean and Kendrick collaboration, âControl,â and Drake responded with, âThe Languageâ. Things stayed relatively lighthearted for a while and both were intentionally vague for many years. Before I go deep into the Kendrick and Drake stuff, itâs really important to examine some of Drakeâs prior beefs because they add a ton of context to my theory. In my opinion Kendrick and Co. started scheming all of this some time around Mid 2020-Mid 2022, well after the whole Pusha T beef had transitioned into the Kanye beef.
What exactly started the beef is debatable, but at the time many attributed it to rumors of Drake pursuing Yeâs ex Amber Rose. Unfortunately the timeline isnât 100 percent clear, and if I included every detail this would be at least 200+ pages so Iâll stick with the important stuff. The ultimate outcome of the Pusha T battle in 2018 was the revelation of Drakeâs son Adidon that he had previously been hiding from the world along with getting Ye directly involved in the beef.
Here are some more examples of Drake antagonizing Ye and of him trying to use women as pawns to get material for his diss tracks. The Drake line, âYeah, I probably go link to Yeezy, I need me some Jesus, but as soon as I start confessin' my sins, he wouldn't believe us," could be a reference to sleeping with Kim Kardashian, trying to double down on his threats to harm him or his family, or it could be a double entendre. Another example is using the name Kiki in another song, which was apparently one of Kimâs nicknames. Some other possible examples include the theories he may have tried the same thing with Kendrickâs wife Whitney around 2020-2021 in an attempt to use as ammo against Kendrick, which Iâll go into later. I donât listen to much of either artist's music, but there are probably many of other examples in Drakeâs catalogue that Iâm leaving out. There is also his song Omerta released in 2019, which I'll go into below.
âYour baby mother call me when she lonely My tailor see me twice a week, he like my homie Forever grateful, forever thankful Diamond necklace, but she wears it on her ankleâ
(Probably referring to Kim Kardashian since she had a few pictures with her wearing diamond ankle bracelets and was trying to make it into a trend.
âI plan to buy your most personal belongings when they up for auctionâ
(There were various rumors floating around for a while that Drake was blackmailing Ye with something and he was fighting to keep it from the public. I thought about it and this line might be referencing a sex tape with Kim or her little sister who me was very touch before she turned 18. In 2022 there was a whole storyline on Kimâs show where Ye flies to LA to prevent her second sex tape from being released.)
West Hollywood, know my presence is menacing
Cosa Nostra, shady dealings
Racketeering, the syndicate got they hand in plenty things The things that we've done to protect the name are unsettling But no regrets, though, the name'll echo Years later, none greater
Death to a coward and a traitor, that's just in my nature, yeah
(Drake and Ye both frequented the Delilah Nightclub located in West Hollywood and lived closeby on the same street for a while.)
"I don't carry cash 'cause the money is digital
It's the American Expresser, the debt collector"
(Sounds a lot more like it could be crypto to launder or send large amounts of ill gotten gains. It started becoming mainstream around them)
"Last year, niggas really feel like they rode on me
Last year, niggas got hot 'cause they told on me
I'm 'bout to call the bluff of anybody the fold on me"
These lines stood out because they could be referring to Ye telling the public about Drake's alleged threats a couple months before the songs release. This happened not long after the release of Sicko mode which was towards the end of 2018 as well. Ye was discussing the incident on Twitter and reached out to Drake and Travis to talk to him in private. In the next set of tweets Kanye publicly accused Drake of threatening him and his family in a major way. Surprisingly Ye seemed genuinely scared and amongst his, âcrazy rants,â some of the stuff he said makes a ton of sense in hindsight. This also the beginning of his second serious public struggles with Bipolar disorder after being committed in 2016 shortly after an on stage rant where he calls out Jay Z for selling out and says he's afraid he might kill him.. As someone who shares the same diagnosis, I have a pretty good understanding of mania and psychosis and firmly believe that it's important not to write people off right away due to their mental illness. Some of my most thoughtful, creative, and productive periods were inspired by mania. Industry bigwigs have also been using mental illness to discredit influential black celebrities and visionaries going back decades, but it really picked up in the 80âs.
Dave Chappelle has gone into this a lot in the past and claims he experienced something similar before he quit show business and dipped to Africa. Their stories have a lot of interesting parallels if youâre familiar or curious. I remember he actually visited Ye at his house in Wyoming after he was reported to have had a, "mental breakdown," during his presidential run in 2020 thus marking his third breakown in six years.. The reason I put it in quotes is because it happened right after he publicly accused Kim of cheating and delivered his legendary speech on abortion. Dave went as far as going on live tv and telling the public he wasnât crazy, he was just really struggling because he was the only one at the time fighting against the narrative, which can often be a suicide mission or a ticket to obscurity. These are three examples of someone speaking up and being deemed crazy, two years later came the nazi stuff and I'm sure we'll have plenty in store for 2024.
This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the very common pattern of artists dying or having their careers destroyed either after they try to leave their label or threaten to reveal industry secrets. A few more interesting industry connections I made in my research include the connections between:
T.U.G. records and J Cole's independent label Dreamville are both managed by Interscope Records, whose parent company is Universal Music Group.
Universal Music Group also hac Drake's label OvO label as well as Ye and Kendrick's old labels on their roster before they left to form their own independent labels in 2022 (around the same time the disses between Kendrick and Drake started escalating). Finally Bad Boy Records, which is owned by Diddy, and Motown Records who own Diddy's other R&B label Love Records, are also both owned by Universal. This means every label I mention is currently or was previously owned by Universal Music Group.
Ye tried for years to get out of his contract with Defjam, which happens to be ran by Jay Z who is known to be a close associate of Diddy. Jay would always used his money and power to fight against it. Ye even spoke out publicly on a few occasions, including when he said Jay Z was trying to kill him during one of his concerts. My theory is after years of getting nowhere and having his reputation skewered, in 2022 Ye finally said, "Fuck it," and dropped all the anti- Semetic stuff intentionally in a successful attempt to force his label to into using their morality clause, which requires labels to drop an artist if they're accused of any major controversy that could hurt the labelâs profits. For the fourth time in four years the media reported he was having a breakdown. Even though they tried to punish him by cutting off all of his sources of income and freezing his accounts he still managed to bounce back pretty quickly. It was often reported how much he was losing, but it rarely discussed how he still was filthy rich in spite of the retrictions. His label wanted to discourage other artists from trying the same thing. My theory is he might have bought Kim or Kylie's alleged sex tape and used it for his own leverage. For Kendrick, his transition to his independent label ApLang went a lot smoother, but he had to split ownership of his new label with the previous manager owner Dave Free. Sadly it's still difficult for new or more niche artists to establish themselves without the some help.
He may be a lot of things but Ye isnât dumb just because he has a mood disorder and the guys at the top know this, which is why I think he has really played up his diagnosis when it benefitted him. Heâs still one of the most talented musicians in the game and I really think he sees his bipolar like a superpower as he says. Itâs like his own invisibility cloak. He can go off his meds for a little, make an album after staying up for 72 hours, go on a âpsychoticâ twitter rant dropping facts throughout, then start up again once he makes enough news headlines. I think itâs worth noting the first divorce rumors in 2020 coincided with Yeâs abortion speech during his presidential run and the cheating accusations. that led to him dropping out and moving to Wyoming, and a couple months ago in February 2024 he was committed again.
The point Iâm making is bipolar is complex, but pretty manageable especially if you have a ton of money to find meds that work for you and a good doctor and can keep substance abuse and stress at a manageable level. I think Ye is smart enough to know this, but itâs just safer for him to really play up the mental issues in the media. Heâs proven he can literally say whatever he wants after getting cancelled and the average person is just going to write it off as psycho babble. While bias in health care is a sad fact of society, if you can use it to your advantage I say go for it. It mightâve just kept the microscope off of him long enough to plan his attack.
Ye v. Drake: Quotes of 2018
(Start of the beef, drake threats, and suspicion towards Kardashian family. )
â Itâs not about rap. Itâs about family. We have to be close as a family and never let these people infiltrate just for radio spinsâ
âWe need to show the world that people can talk without people ending up dead or in jail.â
âThis is a man speaking to a man that has been placed in the program to fuck with Kanye West head and set me upâ
âSee when you care about your family you donât let no man push you to do nothing that could risk your freedomâ
These first four tweets by Ye were all in reference to perceived threats made by Drake after their beef escalated circa 2018. He began speaking on the industry and talking more about his psych hospital commitment two years prior and how he thought they were going to kill him. It's pretty obvious how the whole thing was planned by the sketchy doctor who called it in and his physical trainer who has a ton of connections to weird shit involving his celebrity clients.
I found interesting that Ye might not have been the first major league rapper whose life Drake threatened. During a similar period of mental illness the up and coming rapper XXXtentacion accused Drake of stealing his flow and dissed him a few times. Not long after he made a post online saying if he dies, it was Drake who did it. There are tons of conspiracies online, but none of the evidence is strong enough to draw a definitive connection. Also while it maybe be coincidental, Kendrickâs latest album Mr Morale also painted the picture that Kendrick was dealing with some serious personal issues. Some lines throughout the album may have been used to bait Drake into escalating, but it wasnât until The Weekend, Future, and Metro Booming dropped, âWe Donât Trust You,â then Drake and J. Cole dropped, âFirst Person Shooter,â which was followed a couple days later with, âLike That,â where Kendrick started the chain of events that has led us to today.
Kanye vs. Drake: Quotes of 2020
Summary: Ye runs for president and gets suppressed for saying what very well could be the truth and was immediately deemed insane by the media. Kim did a couple interviews and everything he said was immediatly false. There is almost guarenteed to be some sketchy shit going down revolving her and her family. Ye was absolutely terrified of her keeping the kids away from him and it seems like there are still efforts being made to this day to paint a certain image of him for ulterior motives.
Below are six more quotes from a fan taking a deep dive into his 2020 tweets courtesy of u/ thehatstore42069 on Yeezy
âNORTHY I AM GOING TO WAR AND PUTTING MY LIFE ON THE LINE AND IF I AM MURDERED DONâT EVER LET WHITE MEDIA TELL YOU I WASNT A GOOD MAN,â West, 43, wrote in the tweet, adding, âWHEN PEOPLE THREATEN TO TAKE YOU OUT OF MY LIFE JUST KNOW I LOVE YOUâ
"I need a public apology from J Cole and Drake to start with immediately... I'm Nat Turner... I'm fighting for us."
"the utmost respect for all brothers" and said "we need to link and respect each other... no more dissing each other on labels we don't own"
"Ye is constantly trying to tell people that his family does not have his or his kids best interests at heart. He goes on to list others, linking them together with the thinking emoji. These people include rap artist Drake and Larsa Pippen, wife of Scottie Pippe. Kim K is goddaughter to Pippen's daughter, showing how close the families actually are. All of these families that associate with Ye through Kardashian connections, as well as Drake, have been accused of the same thing Kris has. EVERY SINGLE ONE of these people have mixed race children that are groomed from a young age to fuck around with celebrities so the parents can remain famous. Drake on numerous occasions has been accused of grooming girls and then getting handsy on their 18th birthday.â
âThese labels want their artists to make them money and they dont care about anything else. When Kanye says things like this in an attempt to expose him, the first thing they wanna do is drug him up and put him back in the studio.â
âRighteous indignation is typically a reactive emotion of anger over mistreatment, insult, or malice of another. It is akin to what is called the sense of injustice. This is how they keep the black man down. Keep people outraged about trivial things and distract them from the real issues in the world. The real problems in the industry. If you tell people enough times that they are unequal or discriminated against they start to believe it. Drug them when they step out of line and toss them aside when the checks run out. Ye is realizing he is pawn in a bigger game, and now that he has all these roots in the game such as Yeezy or the Gap or his music, too many people cant risk (Afford) a Ye who speaks his mind.â
(End of quotes)
Amongst the twitter rant, Ye warned about the predatory nature of record deals and discussed trying to get out of his own deal, and said again how his life may be in danger if it wasnât already and was doing anything he could to protect his kids. The most fascinating part to me though is the public call to arms he made to Drake, J Cole, and Kendrick on twitter. After inviting them to all link up, he said, âItâs time to get free, we will not argue amongst each other while some guy we donât know in Europe is getting paid and putting that money in a hedge fund.â I believe if Ye was able to pull off this meeting, there is an ever so slight chance that all four artists might be working together to take down a greater enemy. Weirdly there have been times throughout the last couple years where these supposed enemies were photographed together being friendly or praise each other in interviews, then out of no where the disses would start flying again.
To wrap things up I want to share my a few of my theories about the Drake/Kanye beef
A. Everything is exactly as it seems and the beef is over. Ye let his mental illness ruin his life and career so Drake simply picked another target after Ye stopped putting out disses. All of these connections are just a coincidence and all of this was choreographed to boost Drake and Kendrickâs music sales and possibly distract people from the Diddy trial and possibly the complicated geopolitical issues currently facing the U.S.
C. There is also the possibility that all four rappers are in cahoots and Drakeâs dirt isnât as extreme as people are theorizing, at least in comparison to the rest of the business. This could explain why everything has played out like a movie and how they were able to predict each otherâs moves so well. This could either mean theyâre all just trying to boost their sales or theyâre all trying to take down the âslave masters,â as Ye calls them, and change the dynamic of the music industry in favor of the artist.
D. They may be trying to help their friends in the industry who are being abused or in shitty contracts. I know a lot of famous rappers have done a lot of collaborations with Jhene Aiko and Anderson Paak, who were both signed to T.U.G. records which I mentioned above in the connections to Universal Music Group. Considering they are both frequent collaborators with all of the artists involved on both sides, itâs not unlikely they may have played some part in influencing the takedown.
T.U.G was started by Chris Stokes with his partner Ketrina Askew. Back in the early to mid 90âs were gaining popularity attracting lots of young up and coming talent. They often collaborated with Diddy and his associates. In the 2000âs Raz B from the boy band B2K claimed he was molested by Stokes and his friend Marques Houston, then quickly retracted his claims. Years later he came forward again and said we was bribed into silence and that the rest of the victims were bribed with hush money and had another singer corroborate his story and they came forward together to level the accusations. After some of his former B2K members made fun of him for his claims and accused it of being a shakedown, Raz B revealed Stokes and Houston had preyed a lot of the children associated with the label including at least one of the former bandmates and paid them off.
I thought it was worth noting that the second whistleblower named Quindon Tarver died young in a car crash after mentioning his abuse again a few years prior. He seems to have left the industry not long after the incidents occurred and has few credits to his name. To this day Raz B is still trying to get his justice, while Stokes and his partner Askew, who was also involved in the abuse are still running the label to this day. Askew also has a ton of lawsuits, accusing her of using shady tactics to try to foreclose on houses. (Donât quote me if a lawyer wants to take a look just google her full name), and has been tied to a ton of LLCs, similar to Drake. This is a good example of a shitty record deal, but I'm sure they have countless other friends in the industry who have even worse. While they were never convicted even Chris Stokes' wife confirmed it to be true.
E. The theory I personally think fits the narrative best and is the most realistic conspiracy is that Kendrick and possibly J. Cole went to the meeting, but not Drake due to his close relationship with Lucian Grange, the president of Drakeâs label. Silence often speaks louder than words and this could explain why Kendrick was so ruthless and put so much effort into finding dirt on Drake. Ye, Cole, and Kendrick co-writing would be like the rap allstar team and if J. Cole wasnât involved, it would also answer the question of whether or not he baited Drake into the battle by asking him to feature. I donât think Drake is really their primary target though, which would explain letting him off easy. Compared to his bosses and their bosses heâs a small fish. If you take the big guys down you stand a better chance of landing a bigger blow on their operation.
Another really interesting connection is Kendrick and Ye were both signed under Universal Music Group and they both got out of their deals around couple months apart in 2022. As we speak U.M.Gâs CEO Lucian Grange, who is often acccused of giving Drake special treatment, is facing charges related to sex trafficking by no other than P Diddy. This could very well explain the timing of it all. The craziest timeline would be Diddy masterminding all of this and using his connections to get it done and all the allegations are bullshit. The guy does seem pretty confident all things considered and constantly posts himself in his Batman costume which could mean heâs a vigilante.
It seems like there's a slight religious angle as well. (Ye and Diddy are both very vocal advocates of Christianity and Drake and Lucian Grange are both Jewish.) Obviously this is a reach, but theyâve been saying rap music was specifically promoted by mostly white label owners in the 80âs to help in the ongoing effort to expedite the systematic oppression of those living in black neighborhoods and the destruction of their family systems. Apparently it was an intentional decision to heavily promote rappers that promoted the very things that were destroying their neighborhoods. (So people know I'm and atheist and have zero agenda, I just thought it was interesting, please stay away from anything antisemitic. War is wrong on both sides.)
*** If my favorite theory is true, there is a possibility the Kendrick and Ye are going after Drake due to their mutual disdain for him and because heâs got a ton of power to dominate the charts and hog the radio airtime like Meek Mill and OG Maco claimed years ago. Even him dropping a record the same day as you could really fuck your album sales up. Iâm also sure some of the many rumors throughout the years have had a least some truth and he will most likely snitch to avoid cell block one. I think that Drake could have been instructed to instigate this whole mess in order to draw attention away from the UMG charges brought about by Diddy. Or on the other hand it could be that Kendrick, Ye, and possibly Cole, may have had intel that Drake was going to be involved in the Diddy trial and are just gonna let the receipts show themselves. It might not have been the original plan, but theyâve already accomplished their mission of humiliating him, assuring he couldnât use his influence to slide through the cracks, and taking over the throne.
Please take everything I say with a grain of salt I have no connection to this world or lifestyle. Regardless I believe all of the knowledge above does a pretty solid job at painting a picture of what may have let up to this and what may have been the source.
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Drake and Diddy Connections+Coincidences
Drake- In the P Diddy wig video from 2016 he talks about going to party with Drake, Cash, and The Weeknd in Toronto. Drake is also one of Birdmanâs protĂ©gĂ©es who is known for being a predator and is rumored to have used label artists to lure young women.
Travis Scott- Interview where he comes out and says Diddy tried to lure him. Still has a long history of associating with him, video of him running from Diddy, his connection to Ruby Rose while underage.
Tim Westwood- Diddy had connections with sex offender Tim Westwood who also inspired the Drake song, âWestwoodâ. They also both were victims of drive by shootings along with The Weekend and they were all facing some type of allegations.
T.I.- Also has been associate with Diddy through the years, in 2021 his kid died and 11 women can forward at the same time to accuse him and his wife of drugging and assaulting them. Clearly someone wanted to fuck his life up. Possibly due to him getting arrested so many times for wild shit and people wondering how he continued to get away with it shining a light on how powerful industry lawyers are. He also had recently talked about having a gynecologist check to see if his daughter is still a Virgin, which sounds like it could have been an industrty secret. Could have been because he worried about someone trying to take advantage of her to get to him? Regardless that shit is fucking insane.
50 Cent- Has been saying pretty much the same thing as Travis Scott and has trolled Diddy for most of his career. It came out that his wife was a sex worker who was possibly recruited Diddy to help ruin his career. It sort of worked, which raises the question if 50 Cent is the only victim.
Ray J- Him and his sister worked with T.U.G. records when they were very young. Chris Stokes in the nineties who had connections with Diddy. He has been involved in a lot of sex scandals and allegedly may have played a part in Whitney Houston's death. (Which is also allegedly connected to Michael Jackson's death and both were deemed suspicious and happened during their final tours when their masters (song rights), became more valuable than their lives. Sony Records and Tommy Motolla, who also abused Mariah Carey when she was trying to start her career. These are just a few of the alleged examples of labels taking out musicians when they were worth more dead, another is the signing of high risk artists and requiring them to get life insurance so they can profit beyond releasing all their posthumous records. Also the ever so common story of the rising star artist that die at 21 after their first album or two.
He also partied with Diddy in Vegas with along Floyd Mayweather and a bunch of other famous industry people and athletes.
Tory Lanez- Tons of blackmail, also was signed by Interscope under UMG. got sent to prison for ten years after trying to leave his label. Also history of SA and and other allegations of violence towards women.
French Montana- On Diddy's label, close with Rick and Khaled, tons of drug and sexual assault allegations, also dated a Kardashian. Generally grimy.
DJ Khaled- Diddy said he could get anything in Miami, either referring to drugs or women, could explain his connections and lack of any notable talent. (New update, he was one of the first to promote Chris Alvarezâs instagram not long after he turned 18).
Rick Ross- Diddy said some weird shit about him and licked his lips and kissed him at a show. Ross is also signed to Bad Boy under Diddy. He ended up getting involved in the current feud and spamming social media nonstop dissing and threatening Drake.
A lot of the back and forth was both of them threatening to release dirt on each other. One strange coincidence I found was Drake recently trolled Ross about the 20 million dollar renovation to his home on Star island, where Diddy is currently residing. Itâs rumored back in the day that P Diddy was caught in a room full of rich guys on ecstasy possibly at the beginning stages of a gay orgy. Drake also mentioned in the same tweets about Rick Ross that Birdman owned a house on the island and asked Rick Ross why he didnât help him out.
Considering Ross is so sketchy and Drake claims the house isnât that big, thatâs a ridiculous amount of money. He may be covering up evidence, or creating tunnels in his house to escape if shit pops off and Drake might know whatâs good. Interestingly enough Ross is very close with French Montana and also signed to Bad. He said his beef was related to something involving French, and Drakeâs tweet popped up the same day the info came out concerning the Chris Alvarez stuff.
The famous line from U.O.E.N.O.
Meek Mill- âOG Maco called himself defending his friend Quentin Miller by substantiating the ghostwriting claims and agreeing with Meek. He hit up Twitter saying, "Some of us been knew. Meek just put it in the air. Sucks to have to compete with 6 n****s and get compared toâ
Meek mill also had a short beef with Drake, some disses included lines referring to TIâs homie pissing on Drake at the movie theater, which is also interesting considering the current case against him. He also dropped a line saying Diddy almost got a domestic charge when he smacked Drake, which could either be saying that Drake is like a woman, or saying he was Drakeâs boyfriend/sugar daddy.
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I thought it was interesting how the beef just kind of disappeared and even Meek said it didnât seem genuine. Considering the allegations against Meek in the Diddy trial, and his rumored affair with Kim contributing to ending Kanyeâs marriage, Meek Mill definitely did some dirt on him.
âNiggas frauds I told the truth, don't ask me shit
All this industry fake enemy and rap shitâ
âMoney make a sucker that told look trill againâ
One of the many chapters in Drake's history in which he is seen paying his way out of trouble and starting beefs randomly.
âNow when that shit went down with Chris, you wrote a checkâ
This line is referring to Chris brown beef, another beef that was lost to time. All I can remember off the top was someone throwing a champagne bottle at the otherâs entourage.
Ty Dolla $ign- Huge feature artist, close with Ye. Grew up in the industry and talks about growing up on the road and being in the studio with his dad and Rick James who was should have already been in prison for life for dragging, torturing, and S assaulting multiple women and children throughout his career and was himself a victim of the industry. May be part of Ye's motivation, considering their recent close working relationship.
The end.
Courtesy of,
The Randomest Moniker
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I tried posting this on kendrick almost a week ago and it got no response, I messaged the mods to ask about Karma restrictions or account age requirements and they never replied. I made a new account and it was the same issue, but I found out last night I wasnât fully banned, so I figured Iâd throw it up and see if anyone finds it valuable. Itâs written for people who have no prior knowledge of the rap game/music business. I donât have to go as hard on obscuring names this time. One of the influencers I mentioned in my last post is known for doxxing and threatening violence against people who mention the many contradictions in their stories. (Sorry for any typos/mistakes I want to go to bed.)
Origins
I believe the current Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef is either completely or partially fabricated by certain industry leaders or the parties involved in an effort to distract from something bigger going down behind the scenes. If you were an influential label owner facing major accusations, and you needed to deflect media attention from yourself, recreating one of the most defining moments in rap history during the social media era would be a way to do it. It also wouldnât hurt that two of the biggest rappers in the world were already sending shots at each other in their music for years prior. The public consensus is they are simply two famous rappers who hate each other and fighting over the spot for the top like in the 90âs. Only people who were directly involved could paint a more cohesive picture of the whole story. Even when all the cards drop, there is a good chance the average person wonât be able to find direct sources on their own and will continue to support their favorite artists and dismiss any evidence of their crimes like the drizzy subreddit or Ak fans.
As I said the beef between Kendrick and Drake has been brewing in the background for years, with both rappers sending shots and sneak dissing each other over the course of at least 8 years. The most agreed upon origin story is the first diss was the 2016 Big Sean and Kendrick collaboration, âControl,â and Drake responded with, âThe Languageâ. Things stayed relatively lighthearted for a while and both were intentionally vague for many years. Before I go deep into the Kendrick and Drake stuff, itâs really important to examine some of Drakeâs prior beefs because they add a ton of context to my theory. In my opinion Kendrick and Co. started scheming all of this some time around Mid 2020-Mid 2022, well after the whole Pusha T beef had transitioned into the Kanye beef.
What exactly started the beef is debatable, but at the time many attributed it to rumors of Drake pursuing Yeâs ex Amber Rose. Unfortunately the timeline isnât 100 percent clear, and if I included every detail this would be at least 200+ pages so Iâll stick with the important stuff. The ultimate outcome of the Pusha T battle in 2018 was the revelation of Drakeâs son Adidon that he had previously been hiding from the world along with getting Ye directly involved in the beef.
Here are some more examples of Drake antagonizing Ye and of him trying to use women as pawns to get material for his diss tracks. The Drake line, âYeah, I probably go link to Yeezy, I need me some Jesus, but as soon as I start confessin' my sins, he wouldn't believe us," could be a reference to sleeping with Kim Kardashian, trying to double down on his threats to harm him or his family, or it could be a double entendre. Another example is using the name Kiki in another song, which was apparently one of Kimâs nicknames. Some other possible examples include the theories he may have tried the same thing with Kendrickâs wife Whitney around 2020-2021 in an attempt to use as ammo against Kendrick, which Iâll go into later. I donât listen to much of either artist's music, but there are probably many of other examples in Drakeâs catalogue that Iâm leaving out. There is also his song Omerta released in 2019, which I'll go into below.
âYour baby mother call me when she lonely My tailor see me twice a week, he like my homie Forever grateful, forever thankful Diamond necklace, but she wears it on her ankleâ
(Probably referring to Kim Kardashian since she had a few pictures with her wearing diamond ankle bracelets and was trying to make it into a trend.
âI plan to buy your most personal belongings when they up for auctionâ
(There were various rumors floating around for a while that Drake was blackmailing Ye with something and he was fighting to keep it from the public. I thought about it and this line might be referencing a sex tape with Kim or her little sister who me was very touch before she turned 18. In 2022 there was a whole storyline on Kimâs show where Ye flies to LA to prevent her second sex tape from being released.)
West Hollywood, know my presence is menacing
Cosa Nostra, shady dealings
Racketeering, the syndicate got they hand in plenty things The things that we've done to protect the name are unsettling But no regrets, though, the name'll echo Years later, none greater
Death to a coward and a traitor, that's just in my nature, yeah
(Drake and Ye both frequented the Delilah Nightclub located in West Hollywood and lived closeby on the same street for a while.)
"I don't carry cash 'cause the money is digital
It's the American Expresser, the debt collector"
(Sounds a lot more like it could be crypto to launder or send large amounts of ill gotten gains. It started becoming mainstream around them)
"Last year, niggas really feel like they rode on me
Last year, niggas got hot 'cause they told on me
I'm 'bout to call the bluff of anybody the fold on me"
These lines stood out because they could be referring to Ye telling the public about Drake's alleged threats a couple months before the songs release. This happened not long after the release of Sicko mode which was towards the end of 2018 as well. Ye was discussing the incident on Twitter and reached out to Drake and Travis to talk to him in private. In the next set of tweets Kanye publicly accused Drake of threatening him and his family in a major way. Surprisingly Ye seemed genuinely scared and amongst his, âcrazy rants,â some of the stuff he said makes a ton of sense in hindsight. This also the beginning of his second serious public struggles with Bipolar disorder after being committed in 2016 shortly after an on stage rant where he calls out Jay Z for selling out and says he's afraid he might kill him.. As someone who shares the same diagnosis, I have a pretty good understanding of mania and psychosis and firmly believe that it's important not to write people off right away due to their mental illness. Some of my most thoughtful, creative, and productive periods were inspired by mania. Industry bigwigs have also been using mental illness to discredit influential black celebrities and visionaries going back decades, but it really picked up in the 80âs.
Dave Chappelle has gone into this a lot in the past and claims he experienced something similar before he quit show business and dipped to Africa. Their stories have a lot of interesting parallels if youâre familiar or curious. I remember he actually visited Ye at his house in Wyoming after he was reported to have had a, "mental breakdown," during his presidential run in 2020 thus marking his third breakown in six years.. The reason I put it in quotes is because it happened right after he publicly accused Kim of cheating and delivered his legendary speech on abortion. Dave went as far as going on live tv and telling the public he wasnât crazy, he was just really struggling because he was the only one at the time fighting against the narrative, which can often be a suicide mission or a ticket to obscurity. These are three examples of someone speaking up and being deemed crazy, two years later came the nazi stuff and I'm sure we'll have plenty in store for 2024.
This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the very common pattern of artists dying or having their careers destroyed either after they try to leave their label or threaten to reveal industry secrets. A few more interesting industry connections I made in my research include the connections between:
T.U.G. records and J Cole's independent label Dreamville are both managed by Interscope Records, whose parent company is Universal Music Group.
Universal Music Group also hac Drake's label OvO label as well as Ye and Kendrick's old labels on their roster before they left to form their own independent labels in 2022 (around the same time the disses between Kendrick and Drake started escalating). Finally Bad Boy Records, which is owned by Diddy, and Motown Records who own Diddy's other R&B label Love Records, are also both owned by Universal. This means every label I mention is currently or was previously owned by Universal Music Group.
Ye tried for years to get out of his contract with Defjam, which happens to be ran by Jay Z who is known to be a close associate of Diddy. Jay would always used his money and power to fight against it. Ye even spoke out publicly on a few occasions, including when he said Jay Z was trying to kill him during one of his concerts. My theory is after years of getting nowhere and having his reputation skewered, in 2022 Ye finally said, "Fuck it," and dropped all the anti- Semetic stuff intentionally in a successful attempt to force his label to into using their morality clause, which requires labels to drop an artist if they're accused of any major controversy that could hurt the labelâs profits. For the fourth time in four years the media reported he was having a breakdown. Even though they tried to punish him by cutting off all of his sources of income and freezing his accounts he still managed to bounce back pretty quickly. It was often reported how much he was losing, but it rarely discussed how he still was filthy rich in spite of the retrictions. His label wanted to discourage other artists from trying the same thing. My theory is he might have bought Kim or Kylie's alleged sex tape and used it for his own leverage. For Kendrick, his transition to his independent label ApLang went a lot smoother, but he had to split ownership of his new label with the previous manager owner Dave Free. Sadly it's still difficult for new or more niche artists to establish themselves without the some help.
He may be a lot of things but Ye isnât dumb just because he has a mood disorder and the guys at the top know this, which is why I think he has really played up his diagnosis when it benefitted him. Heâs still one of the most talented musicians in the game and I really think he sees his bipolar like a superpower as he says. Itâs like his own invisibility cloak. He can go off his meds for a little, make an album after staying up for 72 hours, go on a âpsychoticâ twitter rant dropping facts throughout, then start up again once he makes enough news headlines. I think itâs worth noting the first divorce rumors in 2020 coincided with Yeâs abortion speech during his presidential run and the cheating accusations. that led to him dropping out and moving to Wyoming, and a couple months ago in February 2024 he was committed again.
The point Iâm making is bipolar is complex, but pretty manageable especially if you have a ton of money to find meds that work for you and a good doctor and can keep substance abuse and stress at a manageable level. I think Ye is smart enough to know this, but itâs just safer for him to really play up the mental issues in the media. Heâs proven he can literally say whatever he wants after getting cancelled and the average person is just going to write it off as psycho babble. While bias in health care is a sad fact of society, if you can use it to your advantage I say go for it. It mightâve just kept the microscope off of him long enough to plan his attack.
Ye v. Drake: Quotes of 2018
(Start of the beef, drake threats, and suspicion towards Kardashian family. )
â Itâs not about rap. Itâs about family. We have to be close as a family and never let these people infiltrate just for radio spinsâ
âWe need to show the world that people can talk without people ending up dead or in jail.â
âThis is a man speaking to a man that has been placed in the program to fuck with Kanye West head and set me upâ
âSee when you care about your family you donât let no man push you to do nothing that could risk your freedomâ
These first four tweets by Ye were all in reference to perceived threats made by Drake after their beef escalated circa 2018. He began speaking on the industry and talking more about his psych hospital commitment two years prior and how he thought they were going to kill him. It's pretty obvious how the whole thing was planned by the sketchy doctor who called it in and his physical trainer who has a ton of connections to weird shit involving his celebrity clients.
I found interesting that Ye might not have been the first major league rapper whose life Drake threatened. During a similar period of mental illness the up and coming rapper XXXtentacion accused Drake of stealing his flow and dissed him a few times. Not long after he made a post online saying if he dies, it was Drake who did it. There are tons of conspiracies online, but none of the evidence is strong enough to draw a definitive connection. Also while it maybe be coincidental, Kendrickâs latest album Mr Morale also painted the picture that Kendrick was dealing with some serious personal issues. Some lines throughout the album may have been used to bait Drake into escalating, but it wasnât until The Weekend, Future, and Metro Booming dropped, âWe Donât Trust You,â then Drake and J. Cole dropped, âFirst Person Shooter,â which was followed a couple days later with, âLike That,â where Kendrick started the chain of events that has led us to today.
Kanye vs. Drake: Quotes of 2020
Summary: Ye runs for president and gets suppressed for saying what very well could be the truth and was immediately deemed insane by the media. Kim did a couple interviews and everything he said was immediatly false. There is almost guarenteed to be some sketchy shit going down revolving her and her family. Ye was absolutely terrified of her keeping the kids away from him and it seems like there are still efforts being made to this day to paint a certain image of him for ulterior motives.
Below are six more quotes from a fan taking a deep dive into his 2020 tweets courtesy of u/ thehatstore42069 on Yeezy
âNORTHY I AM GOING TO WAR AND PUTTING MY LIFE ON THE LINE AND IF I AM MURDERED DONâT EVER LET WHITE MEDIA TELL YOU I WASNT A GOOD MAN,â West, 43, wrote in the tweet, adding, âWHEN PEOPLE THREATEN TO TAKE YOU OUT OF MY LIFE JUST KNOW I LOVE YOUâ
"I need a public apology from J Cole and Drake to start with immediately... I'm Nat Turner... I'm fighting for us."
"the utmost respect for all brothers" and said "we need to link and respect each other... no more dissing each other on labels we don't own"
"Ye is constantly trying to tell people that his family does not have his or his kids best interests at heart. He goes on to list others, linking them together with the thinking emoji. These people include rap artist Drake and Larsa Pippen, wife of Scottie Pippe. Kim K is goddaughter to Pippen's daughter, showing how close the families actually are. All of these families that associate with Ye through Kardashian connections, as well as Drake, have been accused of the same thing Kris has. EVERY SINGLE ONE of these people have mixed race children that are groomed from a young age to fuck around with celebrities so the parents can remain famous. Drake on numerous occasions has been accused of grooming girls and then getting handsy on their 18th birthday.â
âThese labels want their artists to make them money and they dont care about anything else. When Kanye says things like this in an attempt to expose him, the first thing they wanna do is drug him up and put him back in the studio.â
âRighteous indignation is typically a reactive emotion of anger over mistreatment, insult, or malice of another. It is akin to what is called the sense of injustice. This is how they keep the black man down. Keep people outraged about trivial things and distract them from the real issues in the world. The real problems in the industry. If you tell people enough times that they are unequal or discriminated against they start to believe it. Drug them when they step out of line and toss them aside when the checks run out. Ye is realizing he is pawn in a bigger game, and now that he has all these roots in the game such as Yeezy or the Gap or his music, too many people cant risk (Afford) a Ye who speaks his mind.â
(End of quotes)
Amongst the twitter rant, Ye warned about the predatory nature of record deals and discussed trying to get out of his own deal, and said again how his life may be in danger if it wasnât already and was doing anything he could to protect his kids. The most fascinating part to me though is the public call to arms he made to Drake, J Cole, and Kendrick on twitter. After inviting them to all link up, he said, âItâs time to get free, we will not argue amongst each other while some guy we donât know in Europe is getting paid and putting that money in a hedge fund.â I believe if Ye was able to pull off this meeting, there is an ever so slight chance that all four artists might be working together to take down a greater enemy. Weirdly there have been times throughout the last couple years where these supposed enemies were photographed together being friendly or praise each other in interviews, then out of no where the disses would start flying again.
To wrap things up I want to share my a few of my theories about the Drake/Kanye beef
A. Everything is exactly as it seems and the beef is over. Ye let his mental illness ruin his life and career so Drake simply picked another target after Ye stopped putting out disses. All of these connections are just a coincidence and all of this was choreographed to boost Drake and Kendrickâs music sales and possibly distract people from the Diddy trial and possibly the complicated geopolitical issues currently facing the U.S.
C. There is also the possibility that all four rappers are in cahoots and Drakeâs dirt isnât as extreme as people are theorizing, at least in comparison to the rest of the business. This could explain why everything has played out like a movie and how they were able to predict each otherâs moves so well. This could either mean theyâre all just trying to boost their sales or theyâre all trying to take down the âslave masters,â as Ye calls them, and change the dynamic of the music industry in favor of the artist.
D. They may be trying to help their friends in the industry who are being abused or in shitty contracts. I know a lot of famous rappers have done a lot of collaborations with Jhene Aiko and Anderson Paak, who were both signed to T.U.G. records which I mentioned above in the connections to Universal Music Group. Considering they are both frequent collaborators with all of the artists involved on both sides, itâs not unlikely they may have played some part in influencing the takedown.
T.U.G was started by Chris Stokes with his partner Ketrina Askew. Back in the early to mid 90âs were gaining popularity attracting lots of young up and coming talent. They often collaborated with Diddy and his associates. In the 2000âs Raz B from the boy band B2K claimed he was molested by Stokes and his friend Marques Houston, then quickly retracted his claims. Years later he came forward again and said we was bribed into silence and that the rest of the victims were bribed with hush money and had another singer corroborate his story and they came forward together to level the accusations. After some of his former B2K members made fun of him for his claims and accused it of being a shakedown, Raz B revealed Stokes and Houston had preyed a lot of the children associated with the label including at least one of the former bandmates and paid them off.
I thought it was worth noting that the second whistleblower named Quindon Tarver died young in a car crash after mentioning his abuse again a few years prior. He seems to have left the industry not long after the incidents occurred and has few credits to his name. To this day Raz B is still trying to get his justice, while Stokes and his partner Askew, who was also involved in the abuse are still running the label to this day. Askew also has a ton of lawsuits, accusing her of using shady tactics to try to foreclose on houses. (Donât quote me if a lawyer wants to take a look just google her full name), and has been tied to a ton of LLCs, similar to Drake. This is a good example of a shitty record deal, but I'm sure they have countless other friends in the industry who have even worse. While they were never convicted even Chris Stokes' wife confirmed it to be true.
E. The theory I personally think fits the narrative best and is the most realistic conspiracy is that Kendrick and possibly J. Cole went to the meeting, but not Drake due to his close relationship with Lucian Grange, the president of Drakeâs label. Silence often speaks louder than words and this could explain why Kendrick was so ruthless and put so much effort into finding dirt on Drake. Ye, Cole, and Kendrick co-writing would be like the rap allstar team and if J. Cole wasnât involved, it would also answer the question of whether or not he baited Drake into the battle by asking him to feature. I donât think Drake is really their primary target though, which would explain letting him off easy. Compared to his bosses and their bosses heâs a small fish. If you take the big guys down you stand a better chance of landing a bigger blow on their operation.
Another really interesting connection is Kendrick and Ye were both signed under Universal Music Group and they both got out of their deals around couple months apart in 2022. As we speak U.M.Gâs CEO Lucian Grange, who is often acccused of giving Drake special treatment, is facing charges related to sex trafficking by no other than P Diddy. This could very well explain the timing of it all. The craziest timeline would be Diddy masterminding all of this and using his connections to get it done and all the allegations are bullshit. The guy does seem pretty confident all things considered and constantly posts himself in his Batman costume which could mean heâs a vigilante.
It seems like there's a slight religious angle as well. (Ye and Diddy are both very vocal advocates of Christianity and Drake and Lucian Grange are both Jewish.) Obviously this is a reach, but theyâve been saying rap music was specifically promoted by mostly white label owners in the 80âs to help in the ongoing effort to expedite the systematic oppression of those living in black neighborhoods and the destruction of their family systems. Apparently it was an intentional decision to heavily promote rappers that promoted the very things that were destroying their neighborhoods. (So people know I'm and atheist and have zero agenda, I just thought it was interesting, please stay away from anything antisemitic. War is wrong on both sides.)
*** If my favorite theory is true, there is a possibility the Kendrick and Ye are going after Drake due to their mutual disdain for him and because heâs got a ton of power to dominate the charts and hog the radio airtime like Meek Mill and OG Maco claimed years ago. Even him dropping a record the same day as you could really fuck your album sales up. Iâm also sure some of the many rumors throughout the years have had a least some truth and he will most likely snitch to avoid cell block one. I think that Drake could have been instructed to instigate this whole mess in order to draw attention away from the UMG charges brought about by Diddy. Or on the other hand it could be that Kendrick, Ye, and possibly Cole, may have had intel that Drake was going to be involved in the Diddy trial and are just gonna let the receipts show themselves. It might not have been the original plan, but theyâve already accomplished their mission of humiliating him, assuring he couldnât use his influence to slide through the cracks, and taking over the throne.
Please take everything I say with a grain of salt I have no connection to this world or lifestyle. Regardless I believe all of the knowledge above does a pretty solid job at painting a picture of what may have let up to this and what may have been the source.
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Drake and Diddy Connections+Coincidences
Drake- In the P Diddy wig video from 2016 he talks about going to party with Drake, Cash, and The Weeknd in Toronto. Drake is also one of Birdmanâs protĂ©gĂ©es who is known for being a predator and is rumored to have used label artists to lure young women.
Travis Scott- Interview where he comes out and says Diddy tried to lure him. Still has a long history of associating with him, video of him running from Diddy, his connection to Ruby Rose while underage.
Tim Westwood- Diddy had connections with sex offender Tim Westwood who also inspired the Drake song, âWestwoodâ. They also both were victims of drive by shootings along with The Weekend and they were all facing some type of allegations.
T.I.- Also has been associate with Diddy through the years, in 2021 his kid died and 11 women can forward at the same time to accuse him and his wife of drugging and assaulting them. Clearly someone wanted to fuck his life up. Possibly due to him getting arrested so many times for wild shit and people wondering how he continued to get away with it shining a light on how powerful industry lawyers are. He also had recently talked about having a gynecologist check to see if his daughter is still a Virgin, which sounds like it could have been an industrty secret. Could have been because he worried about someone trying to take advantage of her to get to him? Regardless that shit is fucking insane.
50 Cent- Has been saying pretty much the same thing as Travis Scott and has trolled Diddy for most of his career. It came out that his wife was a sex worker who was possibly recruited Diddy to help ruin his career. It sort of worked, which raises the question if 50 Cent is the only victim.
Ray J- Him and his sister worked with T.U.G. records when they were very young. Chris Stokes in the nineties who had connections with Diddy. He has been involved in a lot of sex scandals and allegedly may have played a part in Whitney Houston's death. (Which is also allegedly connected to Michael Jackson's death and both were deemed suspicious and happened during their final tours when their masters (song rights), became more valuable than their lives. Sony Records and Tommy Motolla, who also abused Mariah Carey when she was trying to start her career. These are just a few of the alleged examples of labels taking out musicians when they were worth more dead, another is the signing of high risk artists and requiring them to get life insurance so they can profit beyond releasing all their posthumous records. Also the ever so common story of the rising star artist that die at 21 after their first album or two.
He also partied with Diddy in Vegas with along Floyd Mayweather and a bunch of other famous industry people and athletes.
Tory Lanez- Tons of blackmail, also was signed by Interscope under UMG. got sent to prison for ten years after trying to leave his label. Also history of SA and and other allegations of violence towards women.
French Montana- On Diddy's label, close with Rick and Khaled, tons of drug and sexual assault allegations, also dated a Kardashian. Generally grimy.
DJ Khaled- Diddy said he could get anything in Miami, either referring to drugs or women, could explain his connections and lack of any notable talent. (New update, he was one of the first to promote Chris Alvarezâs instagram not long after he turned 18).
Rick Ross- Diddy said some weird shit about him and licked his lips and kissed him at a show. Ross is also signed to Bad Boy under Diddy. He ended up getting involved in the current feud and spamming social media nonstop dissing and threatening Drake.
A lot of the back and forth was both of them threatening to release dirt on each other. One strange coincidence I found was Drake recently trolled Ross about the 20 million dollar renovation to his home on Star island, where Diddy is currently residing. Itâs rumored back in the day that P Diddy was caught in a room full of rich guys on ecstasy possibly at the beginning stages of a gay orgy. Drake also mentioned in the same tweets about Rick Ross that Birdman owned a house on the island and asked Rick Ross why he didnât help him out.
Considering Ross is so sketchy and Drake claims the house isnât that big, thatâs a ridiculous amount of money. He may be covering up evidence, or creating tunnels in his house to escape if shit pops off and Drake might know whatâs good. Interestingly enough Ross is very close with French Montana and also signed to Bad. He said his beef was related to something involving French, and Drakeâs tweet popped up the same day the info came out concerning the Chris Alvarez stuff.
The famous line from U.O.E.N.O.
Meek Mill- âOG Maco called himself defending his friend Quentin Miller by substantiating the ghostwriting claims and agreeing with Meek. He hit up Twitter saying, "Some of us been knew. Meek just put it in the air. Sucks to have to compete with 6 n****s and get compared toâ
Meek mill also had a short beef with Drake, some disses included lines referring to TIâs homie pissing on Drake at the movie theater, which is also interesting considering the current case against him. He also dropped a line saying Diddy almost got a domestic charge when he smacked Drake, which could either be saying that Drake is like a woman, or saying he was Drakeâs boyfriend/sugar daddy.
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I thought it was interesting how the beef just kind of disappeared and even Meek said it didnât seem genuine. Considering the allegations against Meek in the Diddy trial, and his rumored affair with Kim contributing to ending Kanyeâs marriage, Meek Mill definitely did some dirt on him.
âNiggas frauds I told the truth, don't ask me shit
All this industry fake enemy and rap shitâ
âMoney make a sucker that told look trill againâ
One of the many chapters in Drake's history in which he is seen paying his way out of trouble and starting beefs randomly.
âNow when that shit went down with Chris, you wrote a checkâ
This line is referring to Chris brown beef, another beef that was lost to time. All I can remember off the top was someone throwing a champagne bottle at the otherâs entourage.
Ty Dolla $ign- Huge feature artist, close with Ye. Grew up in the industry and talks about growing up on the road and being in the studio with his dad and Rick James who was should have already been in prison for life for dragging, torturing, and S assaulting multiple women and children throughout his career and was himself a victim of the industry. May be part of Ye's motivation, considering their recent close working relationship.
The end.
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2024.05.16 06:48 KingJokic What styles can go far in D1 college but fails on the pro Tour?
I noticed thereâs a huge variance in the outcomes of NCAA D1 singles champs such as Danielle Collins and Emma Navarro being top 20 rank. But then thereâs other singles champs Brienne Minor and Zuzana Zemenova who were around rank 900 and 400.
I know in other sports such as basketball and American football there are guys such as Luka Garza and Tim Tebow who can dominate college but their style doesnât really convert for the NBA and NFL.
What style does very well in college but is ineffective on the pro tennis tour
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I know in other sports such as basketball and American football there are guys such as Luka Garza and Tim Tebow who can dominate college but their style doesnât really convert for the NBA and NFL.
What style does very well in college but is ineffective on the pro tennis tour
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2024.05.16 03:33 astro_ZOMBIE138 [US][H] Panzer 4 Arcade Fight Stick, GAMES: Jamma NES SNES GB GBC GBA PS1 360 GBA clamshell cases [W] Paypal
Going through and slimming some of my stuff down.
Prices do not include shipping. Bundles can net discounts.
Accepting payment with Paypal F&F
Everything is first come, first serve. No holds on items. Once I receive payment the item is yours. Thank you!
All games are authentic and working, can provide more pictures if requested.
Panzer 4 Fight Stick from Jasen's Customs with extras - $450+shipping
More Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/ebDBh6M
* Arcade PCB (Jamma): CPS1 1941 Counter Attack conversion in custom case $450 or $300 PCB's only * Arcade PCB(Jamma): Raiden Fighters for Seibu SPI (no mb) $150
[PS1: CIB](https://imgur.com/a/XZSDM1J)
* Qix Neo BL $13
Boxy Pixel Unhinged GBA SP red/black - $350
SNES: Loose * NHL 97 $10
NES: Loose * Platoon $7 * Gauntlet (Tengen) $9 * Super Mario Bros/ Duck Hunt $6
GB: loose * Bo Jackson $8 * NFL Football $2
GBC: loose * Driver $9 * Quest for Camelot $5 * Powerpuff Girls Battle Him $8 * Toy Story 2 $6
GBA Video: loose * GBA Video All Grown Up Volume 1 $6
GBA: loose * Backyard Baseball $6 * Backyard Sports Baseball 2007 $5 * Cabelas Big Game Hunter $5 * Cruis'n Velocity $10 * Danny Phantom The Ultimate Enemy $6 * Disney Princess $5 * Dora the Explorer Pirate Pigs Treasure $3 * Dora's World Adventure $3 * Duel Masters Kaijudo Showdown $10 * Finding Nemo the Continuing Adventures $7 * F-14 Tomcat $3 * Ford Racing 3 $5 * Froggers Adventures Temple of Frog $3 * Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets $8 * Hot Wheels All Out (no label) $4 * Iridion 3-D $5 * Lego Bionicle $6 * Monster Truck Madness $7 * Midnight Club $5 * Midways Greatest Arcade Hits $7 * Namco Museum $7 * Nicktoons Freeze Frame Frenzy $6 * Pac-Man: Classic NES Series $10 * Pac-Man Collection $5 * Peter Pan Return to Neverland $7 * Phalanx $20 * Power Rangers Wild Force (no label) $5 * Shark Tale/Shrek 2 2in1 $10 * Shrek Hassle at the Castle $5 * Spy Muppets License to Croak $6 * Spy Kids Challenger $6 * Spyhunter $10 * Tetris Worlds $11 * Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 (label damage) $4 * Tony Hawk's Underground 2 $5 * Trollz Hair Affair $3 * Wild Thornberrys Movie $5
Take all GBA/GB/GBC games for $200 shipped
GBA JP:Loose * JP Dragon Ball Z $10
[GBA Repro Cases:](https://imgur.com/a/eikzOdZ) * Castlevania Aria of Sorrow * Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance * Castlevania Double Pack x2 * Castlevania NES Series * Castlevania Circle of the Moon x2 * Metroid Fusion * Metroid Zero Mission -$10 each or bundle for better price
GameGear: Loose * Sonic the Hedgehog & Sonic the Hedgehog 2 $15
DS:
XBox 360: * Gears of War 1,2,3, Judgement $20 * Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe $10
If you see something you like, let me know. I'm sure we can strike a deal!
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Prices do not include shipping. Bundles can net discounts.
Accepting payment with Paypal F&F
Everything is first come, first serve. No holds on items. Once I receive payment the item is yours. Thank you!
All games are authentic and working, can provide more pictures if requested.
Panzer 4 Fight Stick from Jasen's Customs with extras - $450+shipping
- Graphite shell
- Vewlix layout
- Brook UFB Fusion, PS5 version
- Printed plexi x2, clear plexi, matte black plexi and plexi frame
- Sanwa buttons and JLF stick w/ Otto v5 upgrade and black aluminum shaft
- Braided USB cable
- Foam sllip mat on bottom
- Fully assembled and ready!
More Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/ebDBh6M
* Arcade PCB (Jamma): CPS1 1941 Counter Attack conversion in custom case $450 or $300 PCB's only * Arcade PCB(Jamma): Raiden Fighters for Seibu SPI (no mb) $150
[PS1: CIB](https://imgur.com/a/XZSDM1J)
* Qix Neo BL $13
Boxy Pixel Unhinged GBA SP red/black - $350
- Anodized aluminum shell and buttons
- IPS screen
- Rechargeable battery
SNES: Loose * NHL 97 $10
NES: Loose * Platoon $7 * Gauntlet (Tengen) $9 * Super Mario Bros/ Duck Hunt $6
GB: loose * Bo Jackson $8 * NFL Football $2
GBC: loose * Driver $9 * Quest for Camelot $5 * Powerpuff Girls Battle Him $8 * Toy Story 2 $6
GBA Video: loose * GBA Video All Grown Up Volume 1 $6
GBA: loose * Backyard Baseball $6 * Backyard Sports Baseball 2007 $5 * Cabelas Big Game Hunter $5 * Cruis'n Velocity $10 * Danny Phantom The Ultimate Enemy $6 * Disney Princess $5 * Dora the Explorer Pirate Pigs Treasure $3 * Dora's World Adventure $3 * Duel Masters Kaijudo Showdown $10 * Finding Nemo the Continuing Adventures $7 * F-14 Tomcat $3 * Ford Racing 3 $5 * Froggers Adventures Temple of Frog $3 * Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets $8 * Hot Wheels All Out (no label) $4 * Iridion 3-D $5 * Lego Bionicle $6 * Monster Truck Madness $7 * Midnight Club $5 * Midways Greatest Arcade Hits $7 * Namco Museum $7 * Nicktoons Freeze Frame Frenzy $6 * Pac-Man: Classic NES Series $10 * Pac-Man Collection $5 * Peter Pan Return to Neverland $7 * Phalanx $20 * Power Rangers Wild Force (no label) $5 * Shark Tale/Shrek 2 2in1 $10 * Shrek Hassle at the Castle $5 * Spy Muppets License to Croak $6 * Spy Kids Challenger $6 * Spyhunter $10 * Tetris Worlds $11 * Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 (label damage) $4 * Tony Hawk's Underground 2 $5 * Trollz Hair Affair $3 * Wild Thornberrys Movie $5
Take all GBA/GB/GBC games for $200 shipped
GBA JP:Loose * JP Dragon Ball Z $10
[GBA Repro Cases:](https://imgur.com/a/eikzOdZ) * Castlevania Aria of Sorrow * Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance * Castlevania Double Pack x2 * Castlevania NES Series * Castlevania Circle of the Moon x2 * Metroid Fusion * Metroid Zero Mission -$10 each or bundle for better price
GameGear: Loose * Sonic the Hedgehog & Sonic the Hedgehog 2 $15
DS:
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XBox 360: * Gears of War 1,2,3, Judgement $20 * Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe $10
If you see something you like, let me know. I'm sure we can strike a deal!
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2024.05.16 02:03 NFCAAOfficialRefBot [POST GAME THREAD] Butler defeats Valparaiso, 71-16
Valparaiso Valparaiso @ Butler Butler
Game Start Time: 7:00 PM EST
Location: Butler Bowl, Indianapolis, IN
Watch: Fox Sports Network
Valparaiso Valparaiso
Butler Butler
Game thread
Plays
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Game Start Time: 7:00 PM EST
Location: Butler Bowl, Indianapolis, IN
Watch: Fox Sports Network
Valparaiso Valparaiso
| Total Passing Yards | Total Rushing Yards | Total Yards | Interceptions Lost | Fumbles Lost | Field Goals | Time of Possession | Timeouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 226 yards | 45 yards | 271 yards | 3 | 2 | 0/0 | 11:41 | 3 |
| Total Passing Yards | Total Rushing Yards | Total Yards | Interceptions Lost | Fumbles Lost | Field Goals | Time of Possession | Timeouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 351 yards | 79 yards | 430 yards | 1 | 0 | 2/2 | 16:18 | 3 |
| Team | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Butler | 21 | 17 | 14 | 19 | 71 |
| Valparaiso | 0 | 0 | 0 | 16 | 16 |
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Game complete, Butler wins!
2024.05.16 01:34 NFCAAOfficialRefBot [POST GAME THREAD] California defeats Arizona, 56-21
California California @ Arizona Arizona
Game Start Time: 8:00 PM ET
Location: Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ
Watch: Fox Sports 1
California California
Arizona Arizona
Game thread
Plays
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Game Start Time: 8:00 PM ET
Location: Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ
Watch: Fox Sports 1
California California
| Total Passing Yards | Total Rushing Yards | Total Yards | Interceptions Lost | Fumbles Lost | Field Goals | Time of Possession | Timeouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 65 yards | 243 yards | 308 yards | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | 18:16 | 3 |
| Total Passing Yards | Total Rushing Yards | Total Yards | Interceptions Lost | Fumbles Lost | Field Goals | Time of Possession | Timeouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 329 yards | 14 yards | 343 yards | 2 | 0 | 0/1 | 9:40 | 3 |
| Team | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Arizona | 0 | 0 | 14 | 7 | 21 |
| California | 21 | 7 | 14 | 14 | 56 |
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Game complete, California wins!
2024.05.16 00:35 jaycsilver [MS] 4184 The Black Pearl - 120 Spots at $1/ea
[MS] 4184 The Black Pearl - 120 Spots at $1/ea
MAIN raffle being mini-stepped (MS): https://www.reddit.com/lego_raffles/s/ZCPA51zmRo
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There will be 3 winners. 1st winner gets 3 spots, 2nd gets 2 spots, 3rd gets 1 spot. The same person can win multiple times but not on the same number (bot will be called once). After the raffle, the raffle host will call the spots for the Mini-Step winners in the Main.
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2024.05.16 00:13 melview1 London Tickets On Sale Date?
Great thread here about London.
However, I had some further questions and wondered if anyone has any insight.
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However, I had some further questions and wondered if anyone has any insight.
- When do tickets actually go on sale? Source? For STM, we need to register by 5/24 for the STM presale opportunity, which would suggest they don't go on sale to the public until after 5/24. StubHub doesn't have tickets available yet, but somehow VividSeats is already selling tickets. The cheapest is $366, so are these jacked up prices on tickets that aren't even real yet?
- Has anyone done the On Location Experience packages? There's no real information on those yet, so does anyone have ballpark per person prices from past experiences as to what these packages might go for and is it worth it?
2024.05.16 00:08 Ok_Experience9994 [Flash] Voltron (21311) 117 spots @ 4$ each
Item Name/Set Number(s): Voltron (21311)
REMINDER: NO COMMENTS IN PAYMENTS OR INSTA-BAN!
Lego Price: $422
Shipping: 20 x 16 x 6, 7lb USPS 94530 to 33031, Insured = $46
Raffle Total/Spots: $468 - 117 @ 4$ea
Price justification? BE
Call spots? Yes
Spot limit per person? Yes, 2 spots
Duration of spot limit? 30 minutes, wait for announcement!
Location (Country): USA
Will ship international? No, sorry.
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2024.05.15 23:41 bradenb941 Top 5 Features We Need in EA Sports College Football 25
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2024.05.15 23:18 Stefanlea11 Hi , beginer question
I am looking to get ready for my first triathlon( in a year or two ) , i have 130kg , i play amateur american football so i am doing some kind of a sport , my stamina is not realy good , so my question is how should i start , just go runing or cycling, i am looking for some tips and tricks đ
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2024.05.15 21:16 FRAXI0S EA NCAA football 25 and fight songs
Soon NCAA 25 football is coming out for most college students and fans and I've been wondering why doesn't all fight songs get properly added to the game? I doubt anyone would not want the publicity as it's a huge franchise and is generally respected.
I learned that they've contacted some schools for rights for really important songs such as FSU but I feel like a possible petition would help bring light to getting fight songs and traditional songs into the game. What do y'all think?
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I learned that they've contacted some schools for rights for really important songs such as FSU but I feel like a possible petition would help bring light to getting fight songs and traditional songs into the game. What do y'all think?
2024.05.15 20:09 DirectorFormal943 JUCO (CC) Basketball Tryouts
JUCO (Community College) Tryouts Tips Hey People on Reddit! I have basketball tryouts in one week at a CC in NC (WTCC) this month in May 2024 for Spring Tryouts and was wondering what to do right before tryouts? I am Nehemiah Yisak and I am 26 years old and I workout sparingly and did not work out that much before this tryout and I probably should have trained more since I was just a manager and do not have any organized basketball team playing experience and did not make my High School (Basketball) or Middle School team (Soccer) or even CC (Basketball + Soccer) yet I do enjoy sports but just played in the backyard in the community. I had a poor background so my family could not afford travel/AAU so I just relied on my talent and skills to play well in the neighborhood. I am 5â11/6â0 150 pounds. My size is slender and that has been a problem that coaches think I am too small but I am very quick on my feet and naturally skilled. I do not know why I get overlooked so much. I relate to the tortoise and the hare fable as well and I tend to just rely on skill and not on discipline. Should I overwork and just train a bunch to make the team? Also, should I train and take this seriously since it is difficult? Should I just put it all out there at tryouts without much preparation since it is more mental than physical? Thank you! Godspeed! Take Care. I probably will try again for Fall Tryouts one last time to make it if I donât make this time but I hope to make it in 2024! Now or never! The time is now for change for good âĄïžâĄïžâLong post but I had a lot to say to put it out there to see a difference because I really want to make this team before I transfer and graduate and do creative work in the world! I hope the best âĄïžđâĄïžâ I feel good about this âĄïžâ Peace âĄïžđ€ïžđ„â TLDR: Basketball tips for tryouts. I appreciate the advice that I just got already now! Reddit looks inviting and I just found out that is a cool place online to ask intriguing questions and gauge valuable advice and wisdom with an online community đđ€ïžđ„â
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2024.05.15 19:40 SisterSabathiel How to beat Explorer Rakdos Vampires with 5c humans?
This is my decklist. It's 5 colour humans, and I'm really struggling against the Rakdos Vampires lists (or anything running 4 Fatal Push and 4 Thoughtseize tbh). Generally speaking, my matchup elsewhere is fine-to-good, but given how many of my matchups are against the nefarious Vampires, I'm not sure what to do.
I tried running [[Pick your Poison]] but I found the savvy players will just wait a turn and [[Thoughtseize]] it out of your hand if they have the Sorin combo, and it's not great against [[Preacher of the Schism]] which is the second hardest card in the deck for me to deal with due to the high toughness and Deathtouch. [[Thalia, Guardian of Thraben]] can delay the combo, but doesn't even slow them down if they have a [[Bloodtithe Harvester]].
In short, it definitely feels like their entire deck is built to beat mine, and I'm not sure what I can do to sideboard against them. Even a [[Pithing Needle]] on Sorin doesn't hurt them much because their fallback plan is so strong against me. Reflector Mage is good against most of the deck, but hurts against a resolved Vein Ripper, especially if they've had more than 1 Fatal Push before then to keep my board clear.
Anyone have any tips? What's the weakness of this deck that I'm not seeing?
Deck
4 Thalia's Lieutenant (J21) 27
4 Recruitment Officer (BRO) 23
4 Hopeful Initiate (VOW) 20
4 Collected Company (AKR) 186
4 Reflector Mage (OGW) 157
3 Adeline, Resplendent Cathar (MID) 1
2 Inti, Seneschal of the Sun (LCI) 156
4 Coppercoat Vanguard (MAT) 1
2 Ayara's Oathsworn (MAT) 11
4 Werewolf Pack Leader (AFR) 211
3 Reckless Stormseeker (MID) 157
1 Forest (SIR) 291
1 Plains (MKM) 278
4 Secluded Courtyard (NEO) 275
4 Cavern of Souls (LCI) 269
4 Unclaimed Territory (XLN) 258
4 Razorverge Thicket (ONE) 257
4 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
Sideboard
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (MUL) 72
2 Deafening Silence (ELD) 10
1 Kitesail Freebooter (M21) 107
2 Kitesail Freebooter (M21) 107
2 Jirina, Dauntless General (MAT) 32
2 Kitesail Larcenist (LCI) 61
2 Pithing Needle (MID) 257
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I tried running [[Pick your Poison]] but I found the savvy players will just wait a turn and [[Thoughtseize]] it out of your hand if they have the Sorin combo, and it's not great against [[Preacher of the Schism]] which is the second hardest card in the deck for me to deal with due to the high toughness and Deathtouch. [[Thalia, Guardian of Thraben]] can delay the combo, but doesn't even slow them down if they have a [[Bloodtithe Harvester]].
In short, it definitely feels like their entire deck is built to beat mine, and I'm not sure what I can do to sideboard against them. Even a [[Pithing Needle]] on Sorin doesn't hurt them much because their fallback plan is so strong against me. Reflector Mage is good against most of the deck, but hurts against a resolved Vein Ripper, especially if they've had more than 1 Fatal Push before then to keep my board clear.
Anyone have any tips? What's the weakness of this deck that I'm not seeing?
Deck
4 Thalia's Lieutenant (J21) 27
4 Recruitment Officer (BRO) 23
4 Hopeful Initiate (VOW) 20
4 Collected Company (AKR) 186
4 Reflector Mage (OGW) 157
3 Adeline, Resplendent Cathar (MID) 1
2 Inti, Seneschal of the Sun (LCI) 156
4 Coppercoat Vanguard (MAT) 1
2 Ayara's Oathsworn (MAT) 11
4 Werewolf Pack Leader (AFR) 211
3 Reckless Stormseeker (MID) 157
1 Forest (SIR) 291
1 Plains (MKM) 278
4 Secluded Courtyard (NEO) 275
4 Cavern of Souls (LCI) 269
4 Unclaimed Territory (XLN) 258
4 Razorverge Thicket (ONE) 257
4 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
Sideboard
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (MUL) 72
2 Deafening Silence (ELD) 10
1 Kitesail Freebooter (M21) 107
2 Kitesail Freebooter (M21) 107
2 Jirina, Dauntless General (MAT) 32
2 Kitesail Larcenist (LCI) 61
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2024.05.15 18:01 Rabbitwohoo1125 FC 25: All EA FC 25 Team Licenses Changes
 | submitted by Rabbitwohoo1125 to FIFANEWS [link] [comments] https://preview.redd.it/14wdgybdvc0d1.jpg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30903a9d201db6970f307d5e887cca541f2ab7cc With EA Sports FC 24 marking a departure from the FIFA franchise, a fresh chapter unfolds in football video games. While maintaining the core gameplay and beloved modes from its predecessor, EA Sports FC 24 introduced exciting innovations like introducing female players to Ultimate Team. As the 2025 season approaches, anticipation for EA Sports FC 25 is reaching a fever pitch. Following the tradition of launching alongside the real-world football season, EA Sports FC 25 is poised to be released worldwide. While an official release date remains under wraps, players can draw clues from past trends. Historically, launches have occurred on Fridays in late September, coinciding with the start of the league season and rising European football fervor. Based on this pattern, fans can tentatively expect EA Sports FC 25 to drop on Friday, September 27, 2024. EA Sports FC players are no stranger to changes with team and stadium license changes. Serie A giants Juventus have not had their iconic name or logo in FIFA for years due to an exclusive deal with Konami's PES franchise. And for EA FC 25, which is due to be updated in the second half of the year, the team names and logos available in Football Ultimate Team and other game modes will change. EA FC 24, according to the agreement, may be the last game Inter Milan plays. A deal was struck in 2022 between Konami and Inter Milan, giving eFootball the only right to use the team's name and logo. The deal will go into effect in July 2024. The move confirms Inter Milan will join Lazio, Atalanta, Napoli and Roma as non-existent Serie A team names and logos in EA FC. The teams are currently known as Latium, Bergamo Calcio, Napoli FC and Roma FC. There is precedent for EA Sports regaining the rights. Juventus has been in the FIFA/EA FC franchise for several years, but now that has changed. EA Sports has become Juventus' official gaming partner in 2022. , three years after Konami arranged it. Power leagues will also remain in EA FC 25, with the Premier League announcing a multi-year contract extension with EA Sports ahead of the launch of FC 24, while the EFL confirmed a five-year extension in April 2024. Without exception, La Liga signed a 10-year deal in 2020 and the Bundesliga club will also remain under EA FC until at least 2027, following an agreement reached in January 2024. |
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2024.05.15 17:10 Chen_Geller Tolkien Begginings: the antecedents of Peter Jackson's (and others) Middle-earth
 | I still sit sometimes and chuckle, thinking "When Ralph Bakshi started animating The Lord of the Rings in 1976, did he know what he was going to unleash on the world?" There was also the Rankin/Bass TV special, being developed concurrently, but its the Bakshi film that, in 1979, Peter Jackson saw, and this young Photoengraver would later direct six (!) live-action Tolkien films and, between himself and co-producer Philippa Boyens, are hard to work producing three more such films. Other adaptations since - namely, The Rings of Power (especially Season One) but also games from The Shadow of Mordor to Return to Moria - have at the very least taken cues from Jackson's films. All because a Kiwi photoengraver saw a cartoon.... submitted by Chen_Geller to lotr [link] [comments] But the relationship between these properties is not so clear-cut as it may seem. I ednumbered the similarities and dissimilarities between Jacksons' films and The Rings of Power elsewhere. Now I want to delve deeper into the similarities and dissimilarities between Jackson and previous adaptations of Tolkien. The Rankin/Bass TV SpecialsSide-by-side video comparisons between Jackson's films and the two Rankin/Bass TV Specials do not reveal any similarities that don't come from the fact that they're adapting the same books. This is an important point: Jackson is NOT trying to make some post-modern "collage" Hollywood film. He's only tipping his hat to those adaptations of Tolkien that he had seen growing up and that influenced him personally.1Due to copyright, the Rankin/Bass specials probably didn't air in New Zealand at all, and although it seems Jackson got a hold of the Rankin/Bass The Hobbit before embarking on The Lord of the Rings, he had not seen their Return of the King, certainly before 1999, and neither he nor his close collaborators have made comments about either of the two Specials. By contrast, the (American!) showrunners of The Rings of Power had referenced the Rankin/Bass Specials, and seemingly tipped their hat to it in a set design for season two.2 The Ralph Bakshi filmAs I said, Jackson went to see the Bakshi film. He had enjoyed some of Bakshi's previous film, including the Tolkien-esque Wizards, released the previous year, and went to see his latest. At the time he hadn't read the books, making Bakshi's film his first exposure to Tolkien, but he does admit he "heard the name" of the book beforehand. His biography suggests he saw it in late 1978, when it first premiered, but surely it would have arrived at New Zealand in early 1979.3The connection between the two films had been played up, unsurprisingly, by Ralph Bakshi himself. A leonine, grandiose man, Bakshi is anything but a reliable narrator. His own suggestion that he hadn't actually seen the films - only trailers, he claims - sounds believable enough and certainy understandable.4 But, then, if he didn't watch them, it makes his critique of them as deriviative of his films all the more dubious, even without actually looking at the specifics of what he said: Look at his Lothlorien. Look at my backgrounds of Lothlorien. Take a look! He had much more to see than I did, and if you don't think he lifted it over and over again, you're wrong. I mean, how did he design a knife in Lord of the Rings? How did he design a sword? How did he design the dwarf with his axe? How did he design the fur around him? Why did Peter Jackson put fur around the dwarf? Because I put fur around the dwarf! Why would the dwarf have fur naturally? You see, I could give you a billion little things. I wish I had a movie to look at.5These are truly some confused claims, for the most part. The most credible part here is the Hobbits hiding under the branch from the Ringwraiths, a shot composition later to also be replicated in season one of the Rings of Power, and which we'll get to later. Another claim of Bakshi's that cannot be dismissed out of hand is that, however big or small a debt Jackson owes to his film, he said that Jackson didn't publically acknowledge the influence and felt that it was only appropriate to have welcomed him to visit the set or something: by comparison, Jackson invited Rick Baker, who played King Kong in the 1978 version, to cameo in his King Kong.6 Jackson actually did mention the Bakshi filming in passing in the making-ofs. Then again, he entirely fails to mention the radio serial, either. Ultimately, Jackson possibly in cahoots with New Line Cinema, must have felt it unwise to point to a previous adaptation that had only achieved mixed success, at the outset of his own enterprise. He did talk more about the Bakshi film, and more fondly, in the director's commentary to The Fellowship of the Ring and in a couple of later interviews, which are significant gestures, but he clearly wasn't going to trumpet the influence Bakshi's film had on him off of every rooftop.7 In his 2006 biography, Jackson actually briefly reviews the Bakshi film: I liked the early part â it had some quaint sequences in Hobbiton, a creepy encounter with the Black Rider on the road, and a few quite good battle scenes â but then, about half way through, the storytelling became very disjointed and disorientating and I really didnât understand what was going on. However, what it did do was to make me want to read the book â if only to find out what happened!8This is a complementary but admittedly mixed review, and Jackson had made similar comments since, calling it "brave and ambitious" but consistently decrying the hokum of the film's second half.9 Now, it is true that artists can be influenced by a work of art in spite of themselves, but lets see if we can try and quantify the influence. From the outset, in the audio commentary, Jackson remarks that "our film stylistically is very different and the design is different," which is apposite: Bakshi swore a debt to Howard Pyle, which certainly leaves its mark of the gorgeous natural bakcdrops, but a source closer at hand (especially considering his follow-up fantasy film, Fire and Ice) is the most popular fantasy illustrator of his day, Frank Frazetta: Bakshi's Witch King is practically ripped from Frazetta's famous "Dark Rider" illustration.10 Jackson's approach, however, was steeped in a kind of romantic realism that by and large eschewed the heightened work of Frazetta, opening a yawning stylistic gulf between his film and Bakshi's on a general level. Bakshi's Hobbit-holes have overhanging roofs that give the impression of fairies living under mushrooms (which they in fact had in his previous film, Wizards) and the interiors of Bag End are earthen, more of a rabbit-hole than Jackson's English countryside villa. There are some similarities, like the Hobbits having similarly-clipped pants, but its hard to say costume designer Ngilla Dickson had Bakshi in mind for that look. There's the basic structure of the narrative: both films leave some of the same plot beats out - Tom Bombadil, most notably - both intercut the Frodo and Aragorn storylines throughout (as per the appendices rather than the body of the text), and both open with a prologue. However, many of these are common-sense approaches that, if one were to put 100 screenwriters in a room, a good 90 of which would choose to pursue: in fact, Sir John Boorman's earlier Lord of the Rings script had likewise intercut the stories and redacted many of the same episodes as both Bakshi and Jackson, and similar approaches were taken in the 1958 Morton Zimmerman treatment. Certainly, in the case of the choice to pursue a prologue, a precedent closer at hand exists in the form in the 1981 radio serial, a point made all the stronger by the fact that when Jackson first concieved of and sketched the prologue, he hadn't seen Bakshi's film in 20 years.11 Bakshi did claim that New Line were screening his film repeatedly, but author Ian Nathan says that was never the case. Miramax did screen the film for Jackson in 1997, after he'd written the treatment. Jackson's treatment included Glorfindel and Erkenbrand, who in subsequent drafts are replaced by Arwen (Legolas in Bakshi's film) and Eomer, but still I find that it falls more into the realm of common-sense screenwriting decisions than anything that could be tied to Bakshi in a clear way, especially the latter which happens at the end of Bakshi film, a part of the film Jackson admits to have found incoherent.12 Rather, the place to look for similarities between the two projects is in the opening leg of The Fellowship of the Ring. Jackson actually, in the director's commentary, points out the shot of Odo Proudfoot calling "Proudfeet!" as a deliberate homage to Bakshi's shot, "which I thought was great." He doesn't acknowledge a couple - only a couple - of other shots that are quite similar: one is the evocative shot of the Ring tumbling over the rocks in Gollum's cave just before Bilbo finds it. Another still is an entire sequence of shots which misdirect us into thinking the Ringwraiths killed the Hobbits in their beds. Both are a little TOO similar to be waved away as coincidental.13 The Ringwraith shot is a more special case: It was nominally based off of a John Howe illustration, ostensibly of the Bakshi scene. But Jackson - who's quoted review of the Bakshi film mentions this scene - could hardly not notice the similarity to the Bakshi scene, especially since the scene doesn't at all play like this in the novel. What's more, the scene was first storyboared only shortly after Jackson say Bakshi's film for the second time, and shot not too long after that being that it was the first scene filmed. So its only fair to cite Bakshi as an influence on that shot.14 https://preview.redd.it/9mbqqm4zul0d1.png?width=550&format=png&auto=webp&s=a45cdd06543d70200e3eacf150f14d03d222203b There are other bits and pieces: did Jackson have Bakshi in mind when he added a scene of Saruman rallying up the Uruk-hai before the siege of Helm's Deep? Its hard to say. An even more elusive case is made by Bakshi: "I'm glad Peter Jackson had a movie to look atâI never did. And certainly there's a lot to learn from watching any movie, both its mistakes and when it works." In other words, Bakshi here suggests his film influenced Jackson in terms of what NOT to do. To his credit, Jackson does remember that the design process for Treebeard was in part motivated by trying to divorce him from the Bakshi version, which both him and Dame Fran Walsh remember as being "like a walking carrot." But when we start getting into that level, it all becomes very tenuous. There were a lot of things about the fantasy genre in general - Conan the Barbarian and Willow are oft-cited by Jackson - that he tried to avoid.15 Ultimately, I have to judge that the similarities between the two versions amount to a handful of rather insignificant beats, all in the first hour of Fellowship of the Ring. To hyperbolically play up the similarities between the two projects is to give in to Bakshi's hyperbolic rhetoric. Tolkien illustrationsJackson's first and, at the time, only copy of The Lord of the Rings was a tie-in to the Bakshi film. This would mean he hadn't gotten into the world of Tolkien illustrations until developing his own films, when he suggests he went on a detail-exhaustive search for Tolkien art. He had seen Tolkien's own illustrations, but decided that they're "not very helpful in terms of the lighting and the mood."16The most acclaimed illustrators of the previous era of Tolkien were Pauline Bayens (whose Minas Tirith is reproduced in the Rankin/Bass Return of the King) and the Brothers Hildebrandt, whose bestial Balrog presents a precursor both to Bakshi's but also to the Minotaur-like Balrog of John Howe.17 Howe was one of a trifecta of Tolkien illustrators, along with Ted Nasmith and Alan Lee, to enjoy great vogue at the time when Jackson was developing his films. Of the three, Lee is often deemed the most celebrated and certainly made the biggest impact on Jackson, whose next copy of the book was to be an Alan Lee illustrated edition. But he also noticed Howe through is work on Tolkien calendars, and later also purchased some originals of Ted Nasmith. All three were approached to participate in concept design for the films, although Nasmith sadly had to decline.18 In many places, Jackson precisely copied designs of Lee's and Howe's existing paintings, and in some places carbon copied their lighting and composition for shots, as well as grading the films (before the advent of the latest remaster) somewhat along the lines established in their paintings. But the majority of Lee and Howe's work for Jackson was in producing NEW concept art to his specifications, and so its wrong to look at Jackson's films as being a part of the Lee-Howe ouevure, as such. The 1981 Radio SerialA less touted influence on Jackson's film is the superlative 1981 BBC radio serial. Where Jackson hadn't reread the book nor revisited Bakshi's film between 1979 and 1997, he had spent much of the that time listening on-and-off to a tape of the radio serial, usually while working in his garage on special effects.19The most obvious similarity is the casting of Sir Ian Holm, who had voiced Frodo in the radio serial, as Bilbo. Holm was apparently at the top of Jackson's casting wishlist, partially for this reason. A particularly striking moment occurs when Holm's Frodo quotes Bilbo's "Its a dangerous business Frodo, going out your door: you step on to the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to", a line again given to Holm - now as Bilbo - in voiceover at the same spot in Jackson's film.20 Again, many of the similar structural choices here are similar to Jackson, adding a prologue, contracting the early stages of Frodo's quest and intercutting the Aragorn and Frodo's stories throughout. Brian Sibley admits to have modelled his prologue on Bakshi's own, but Jackson is unlikely to have known it at the time, and when we start thinking in terms of second-hand influences we're again into very tenuous territory. Otherwise, the influence doesn't seem all too great, although Sibley remembers that Walsh, perhaps half-jokingly, told him "we stole your ending" in the way that they did the Grey Havens and then a quick segue to Sam's return home, basically along the lines of the book.21 A young, and already Tolkien-devotee, Sir Ian Holm recording Bilbo Sibley had recruited his cast from the BBC's company of actors, which is also the troupe Bakshi turned to, meaning that Sibley ended-up with Bakshi's Boromir (Michael Graham Cox) and, notably, his Gollum (Peter Woodthorpe). In spite of Woodthorpe's evocative performance of Gollum's voice in both the Bakshi and Sibley versions, its influence on Andrew Serkis' performance of Gollum is nonexistent, as Serkis had developed the voice before having heard Woodthorpe rendition, having only read The Hobbit prior to being cast.22 Other fantasy filmsJackson had seen pretty much all the fantasy films of the 1980s, and while they were important in terms of establishing the genre, they hadn't left much of an impression on Jackson. The most succesful - George Lucas' Star Wars - was more space-fantasy, undoubtedly impressed Jackson but didn't much influence his films: to this day, he professes to not be a huge Star Wars fan, in spite of the amiacable manner he and Lucas took with each other in later years, and admits that he sees the influence of Lucas more "in what he did for the industry, not in terms of the actual films that he made."23The first major high-fantasy film, Sir John Boorman's Excalibur, was a little closer to Jackson's heart, but isn't much of an influence on his films either. Its true that Jackson's films feature a lot of plate armour, but that's indebted primarily to John Howe's abiding love of late Medieval armour, and at any rate is quite different to the Enlightement-era suits of armour one finds in Boorman's film. Willow, produced by George Lucas, was a big shot to the arm of New Zealand's fledgling film industry, and like Star Wars is much indebted to The Hobbit, but left a bad impression on Jackson.24 The Clockmaker's Cottage in Sir Ridley Scott's Legend Two exceptions are to be cited; Ray Harryhousen's stop-motion fantasy films from the 1950s were huge favourites of Jackson's, although their more Graeco-Roman subject matters were a genre apart from Jackson's films. He is also a big fan of Sir Ridley Scott, and while he joins the consensus of deriding William Hjortsberg notorious screenplay, had taken some cues from his Legend (1986): there's something of the Clockmaker's cottage in Rhosgobel, and Jackson referenced some of the features of Tim Curry's devilish "Lord of Darkness" for the Wargs sinewy faces.25 Other filmsJackson took influence from paintings of old battles and landscapes, but surely his biggest influences are other films: Zulu and Saving Private Ryan had been referenced for Helm's Deep, and there's a touch of Terrence Malick's The Thin Red Line, which Jackson had watched before principal photography, to the atmospheric shots that close the Fellowship prologue. Jackson admitted to rewatching mostly Scorsese films while shooting, and certainly the energy of his moving cameras find a closer kin in Scorsese's films than in anyone else's. There's something of David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia to Jackson's intention to make living, breathing people out of his fantasy characters.26Surely the inspiration for the shot of Aragorn arriving at Helm's Deep But there's one film that looms largest in Jackson's films, overshadowing any influence we're looked at so far: Mel Gibson's latest spectacular, Braveheart. Along with other films of this kind like Dances with Wolves and Rob Roy (Gladiator came too late to much influence Jackson's films) it is of crucial importance to the overall cinematic style of Jackson's films, having come out just as Jackson first started thinking of making an original fantasy film, and winning the academy award for Best Picture before any sustained work was done to develop The Lord of the Rings.27 Footnotes
ConclusionsAny notion that Jackson's films are derivative of previous Tolkien adaptations - namely, Bakshi's - are very much hyperbolic, and stem more from adopting an inflated rhetoric taken by the likes of Bakshi. As an adaptation, Jackson's works are based soley on Tolkien's books, and merely tip their hat occasionally to previous adaptations - and not all previous adaptations, either. Cinematically, they draw rather from other sources: less from other adaptations of Tolkien or other fantasy film (Tolkien-esque or not) and more from historical epics, both from the 1960s but also and especially from the time in which Jackson first started developing his films. |
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