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The case for Rivian
2024.05.14 23:01 Reparteey The case for Rivian
You can make the case for weakened demand due to people who can afford EV's already having bought one and the sustained elevated interest rates hurting demand but there are a couple of factors that can affect the future stock price that are of varying degrees of likelihood of occurring but are positive catalysts for the stock.
take this information as you will and make your own financial decisions.
Positive Catalysts and likelihood of occurring
*Rivian has just completed their plant shutdown in order to streamline operations and promote productivity which should also impact profitability.
As this has already occurred the chance is 100% and unless they are complete idiots should in fact lead to greater productivity and in turn profitability aka less $ lost per vehicle, it remains to be seen how much impact this will have on operations
*Rivian has changed suppliers on certain things like sensors and cameras as they are doing a refresh on the current R1 lineup. Chances of occurring is 100% and based on what Wassym from Rivian has stated should lead to increased capability including self driving capability. May lead to increased demand.
*Rivian has access to the Tesla charging network and is currently in the proceess of sending out CCS to NACS adapters for free to current owners. Chance of occurring 100% as this has happened / is in progress. Some rivian owners have already bought their own adapters. This should solve the issue of the charging station woes and lead to reduced range anxiety for current and potential owners as road trips become basically a non issue. Just happened recently so should lead to increased demand going forward.
*EV tax credits are currently being looked at to be reworked in 2025 the details are still in flux, but as Rivians currently only qualify for $3750 tax credits to those who are under the income limits this is more likely to be a beneficial change to rivian than to hurt rivian. I'd say the chances of a rework to EV tax credit rules are 100% as the current EV tax credit rules are stupid and everyone knows it. The chance of it being beneficial to Rivian is currently unknown as they could increase the amount Rivian owners would qualify to receive or increase the amount of potential Rivian buyers who would be eligible. Worst case I could see no change for Rivian,
I dont see Rivian buyers less eligible or receiving less credit than they do now.
*Rivian becomes positive gross margin by Q4 on a per vehicle basis. This is what Rivian is pushing for and what they say they are striving for on their earning calls. For this to occur they would have to make great strides to profitability. Whether they meet their goal or just get close remains to be seen. I think this is both a potential positive catalyst if they meet this goal or get really close as it should greatly increase stock buyer sentiment. Conversely if they fall well short then this could be a very negative catalyst. its hard to assign a chance to this occurring with so many variables that could happen between here and there.
*Interest rates reducing. Interest rates haven't increased since July of 2023. As the rates have been sustained since then that may have weakened demand somewhat. However I believe it is more likely for interest rates to be reduced than to be increased further. If interest rates somehow increased I couldn't see how they could possibly sustain more than an additional .25 or .50 total increase from where they are now and even then I think those are unlikely. I think its more likely that interest rates are reduced at least .25 by the end of the year with further rate reductions likely in 2025. This should increase consumer sentiment toward both the stock and toward demand.
Can't predict the future but I think rate reductions or at least one by the end of the year is at least 65-70% likely in my opinion. The stock price at the time of the last rate hike was around a peak of $26-27 before dropping after that but staying around $17-23 til 2024.
*R2 model, if Rivian starts improving their financial situation and that they look like they will be able to stay in business to launch the more affordable R2 which there should be a robust preorder demand I think this will have a good impact on the stock price. They will probably release preorder numbers at some point this year and if they do that will probably help the stock price on their own. I would estimate that there are 60k-100K R2 Preorders and as that is a much more affordable price point the closer we get to the 2026 projected launch the better rivians stock price should be.
My positions: 170 Shares and 21x $20 calls for January 2025 with plans to add another $10k worth of a mix of calls at varying strikes and shares in the near future. If you do your research and decide to buy calls/puts dated out in 2025 or beyond make sure to check the bid/ask and put in a limit order so you aren't burned by large bid/ask gaps. I also own a Rivian Quad R1T
I would like to address the apple partnership speculation last. This is all rumor based and should be taken as such and not as factual in any capacity. As to what validity to it I wouldn't care to guess but there are many options in which a partnership of some sort would make sense and a lot of different options as to how that would take shape.
*Apple could simply lease/sell the research from Project Titan to Rivian for cheap as they spent a lot of money on it and Rivian was asked on the Quarter 1 24 call how they plan to be able to fund future development of their driver+ software (self driving).
Apple spent a lot of money on project titan and it would be a waste if none of that data was useful or ever used.
*The rumors of the apple rivian partnership was credited to an unnamed supplier in Asia. This could be relevant because if Rivian is purchasing or looking into purchasing Apple chips (to power self driving AI assistants) or anything like sensors of the same kind that apple used on its test cars for project titan, could make the rumor a bit more credible. If any information comes out supporting that Rivian is buying apple related hardware this could impact the stock price upward.
*maybe this could simply be a planned implementation of Carplay with the new upcoming version of Carplay being added to R1 and future R2 lineups. Given that no one is going to refuse to buy a Rivian if it introduces the completely 100% optional carplay and that Rivian has a real issue with the lack of software in its vehicles (I can't name another vehicle that doesn't have integrated text messaging) I could only see this only helping demand as there are plenty of soccer moms who wouldn't buy a car without carplay.
*could be a partnership to build apple branded R1/R2/R3 vehicles. Rivian vehicles look good and have a good interior quality thats better than what you would expect. I could see apple badging and functionality being added to a Rivian vehicle to be sold as the apple car.
They could even throw an apple chip in there to run the center screen and it could basically be an IPAD and run all the ipad apps to instantly compete with tesla on functionality and breadth of media/games etc.
Think of like how Ford had an Eddie Bauer edition of their Expedition vehicle years ago. Makes way more sense than apple starting their own car manufacturing and Rivian makes a whole lot of sense for Apple to partner with due to quality of the vehicle.
Note I dont believe the chances are anything but low for most of the speculation about Apple above, but if there was a major or even minor partnership with apple, expect the stock to take off.
Even without any of the apple things above taking place, I think if Q4 profitability happens the Rivian stock price could be above $20 again in 2025. While there are chances of negative catalysts taking place such as dilution so that Rivian can raise cash and other negative things that could occur so take care to make your own informed decisions do the research and dont risk more than you can afford to lose.
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take this information as you will and make your own financial decisions.
Positive Catalysts and likelihood of occurring
*Rivian has just completed their plant shutdown in order to streamline operations and promote productivity which should also impact profitability.
As this has already occurred the chance is 100% and unless they are complete idiots should in fact lead to greater productivity and in turn profitability aka less $ lost per vehicle, it remains to be seen how much impact this will have on operations
*Rivian has changed suppliers on certain things like sensors and cameras as they are doing a refresh on the current R1 lineup. Chances of occurring is 100% and based on what Wassym from Rivian has stated should lead to increased capability including self driving capability. May lead to increased demand.
*Rivian has access to the Tesla charging network and is currently in the proceess of sending out CCS to NACS adapters for free to current owners. Chance of occurring 100% as this has happened / is in progress. Some rivian owners have already bought their own adapters. This should solve the issue of the charging station woes and lead to reduced range anxiety for current and potential owners as road trips become basically a non issue. Just happened recently so should lead to increased demand going forward.
*EV tax credits are currently being looked at to be reworked in 2025 the details are still in flux, but as Rivians currently only qualify for $3750 tax credits to those who are under the income limits this is more likely to be a beneficial change to rivian than to hurt rivian. I'd say the chances of a rework to EV tax credit rules are 100% as the current EV tax credit rules are stupid and everyone knows it. The chance of it being beneficial to Rivian is currently unknown as they could increase the amount Rivian owners would qualify to receive or increase the amount of potential Rivian buyers who would be eligible. Worst case I could see no change for Rivian,
I dont see Rivian buyers less eligible or receiving less credit than they do now.
*Rivian becomes positive gross margin by Q4 on a per vehicle basis. This is what Rivian is pushing for and what they say they are striving for on their earning calls. For this to occur they would have to make great strides to profitability. Whether they meet their goal or just get close remains to be seen. I think this is both a potential positive catalyst if they meet this goal or get really close as it should greatly increase stock buyer sentiment. Conversely if they fall well short then this could be a very negative catalyst. its hard to assign a chance to this occurring with so many variables that could happen between here and there.
*Interest rates reducing. Interest rates haven't increased since July of 2023. As the rates have been sustained since then that may have weakened demand somewhat. However I believe it is more likely for interest rates to be reduced than to be increased further. If interest rates somehow increased I couldn't see how they could possibly sustain more than an additional .25 or .50 total increase from where they are now and even then I think those are unlikely. I think its more likely that interest rates are reduced at least .25 by the end of the year with further rate reductions likely in 2025. This should increase consumer sentiment toward both the stock and toward demand.
Can't predict the future but I think rate reductions or at least one by the end of the year is at least 65-70% likely in my opinion. The stock price at the time of the last rate hike was around a peak of $26-27 before dropping after that but staying around $17-23 til 2024.
*R2 model, if Rivian starts improving their financial situation and that they look like they will be able to stay in business to launch the more affordable R2 which there should be a robust preorder demand I think this will have a good impact on the stock price. They will probably release preorder numbers at some point this year and if they do that will probably help the stock price on their own. I would estimate that there are 60k-100K R2 Preorders and as that is a much more affordable price point the closer we get to the 2026 projected launch the better rivians stock price should be.
My positions: 170 Shares and 21x $20 calls for January 2025 with plans to add another $10k worth of a mix of calls at varying strikes and shares in the near future. If you do your research and decide to buy calls/puts dated out in 2025 or beyond make sure to check the bid/ask and put in a limit order so you aren't burned by large bid/ask gaps. I also own a Rivian Quad R1T
I would like to address the apple partnership speculation last. This is all rumor based and should be taken as such and not as factual in any capacity. As to what validity to it I wouldn't care to guess but there are many options in which a partnership of some sort would make sense and a lot of different options as to how that would take shape.
*Apple could simply lease/sell the research from Project Titan to Rivian for cheap as they spent a lot of money on it and Rivian was asked on the Quarter 1 24 call how they plan to be able to fund future development of their driver+ software (self driving).
Apple spent a lot of money on project titan and it would be a waste if none of that data was useful or ever used.
*The rumors of the apple rivian partnership was credited to an unnamed supplier in Asia. This could be relevant because if Rivian is purchasing or looking into purchasing Apple chips (to power self driving AI assistants) or anything like sensors of the same kind that apple used on its test cars for project titan, could make the rumor a bit more credible. If any information comes out supporting that Rivian is buying apple related hardware this could impact the stock price upward.
*maybe this could simply be a planned implementation of Carplay with the new upcoming version of Carplay being added to R1 and future R2 lineups. Given that no one is going to refuse to buy a Rivian if it introduces the completely 100% optional carplay and that Rivian has a real issue with the lack of software in its vehicles (I can't name another vehicle that doesn't have integrated text messaging) I could only see this only helping demand as there are plenty of soccer moms who wouldn't buy a car without carplay.
*could be a partnership to build apple branded R1/R2/R3 vehicles. Rivian vehicles look good and have a good interior quality thats better than what you would expect. I could see apple badging and functionality being added to a Rivian vehicle to be sold as the apple car.
They could even throw an apple chip in there to run the center screen and it could basically be an IPAD and run all the ipad apps to instantly compete with tesla on functionality and breadth of media/games etc.
Think of like how Ford had an Eddie Bauer edition of their Expedition vehicle years ago. Makes way more sense than apple starting their own car manufacturing and Rivian makes a whole lot of sense for Apple to partner with due to quality of the vehicle.
Note I dont believe the chances are anything but low for most of the speculation about Apple above, but if there was a major or even minor partnership with apple, expect the stock to take off.
Even without any of the apple things above taking place, I think if Q4 profitability happens the Rivian stock price could be above $20 again in 2025. While there are chances of negative catalysts taking place such as dilution so that Rivian can raise cash and other negative things that could occur so take care to make your own informed decisions do the research and dont risk more than you can afford to lose.
2024.05.14 22:44 Reparteey The case for Rivian
You can make the case for weakened demand due to people who can afford EV's already having bought one and the sustained elevated interest rates hurting demand but there are a couple of factors that can affect the future stock price that are of varying degrees of likelihood of occurring but are positive catalysts for the stock.
take this information as you will and make your own financial decisions.
Positive Catalysts and likelihood of occurring
*Rivian has just completed their plant shutdown in order to streamline operations and promote productivity which should also impact profitability.
As this has already occurred the chance is 100% and unless they are complete idiots should in fact lead to greater productivity and in turn profitability aka less $ lost per vehicle, it remains to be seen how much impact this will have on operations
*Rivian has changed suppliers on certain things like sensors and cameras as they are doing a refresh on the current R1 lineup. Chances of occurring is 100% and based on what Wassym from Rivian has stated should lead to increased capability including self driving capability. May lead to increased demand.
*Rivian has access to the Tesla charging network and is currently in the proceess of sending out CCS to NACS adapters for free to current owners. Chance of occurring 100% as this has happened / is in progress. Some rivian owners have already bought their own adapters. This should solve the issue of the charging station woes and lead to reduced range anxiety for current and potential owners as road trips become basically a non issue. Just happened recently so should lead to increased demand going forward.
*EV tax credits are currently being looked at to be reworked in 2025 the details are still in flux, but as Rivians currently only qualify for $3750 tax credits to those who are under the income limits this is more likely to be a beneficial change to rivian than to hurt rivian. I'd say the chances of a rework to EV tax credit rules are 100% as the current EV tax credit rules are stupid and everyone knows it. The chance of it being beneficial to Rivian is currently unknown as they could increase the amount Rivian owners would qualify to receive or increase the amount of potential Rivian buyers who would be eligible. Worst case I could see no change for Rivian,
I dont see Rivian buyers less eligible or receiving less credit than they do now.
*Rivian becomes positive gross margin by Q4 on a per vehicle basis. This is what Rivian is pushing for and what they say they are striving for on their earning calls. For this to occur they would have to make great strides to profitability. Whether they meet their goal or just get close remains to be seen. I think this is both a potential positive catalyst if they meet this goal or get really close as it should greatly increase stock buyer sentiment. Conversely if they fall well short then this could be a very negative catalyst. its hard to assign a chance to this occurring with so many variables that could happen between here and there.
*Interest rates reducing. Interest rates haven't increased since July of 2023. As the rates have been sustained since then that may have weakened demand somewhat. However I believe it is more likely for interest rates to be reduced than to be increased further. If interest rates somehow increased I couldn't see how they could possibly sustain more than an additional .25 or .50 total increase from where they are now and even then I think those are unlikely. I think its more likely that interest rates are reduced at least .25 by the end of the year with further rate reductions likely in 2025. This should increase consumer sentiment toward both the stock and toward demand.
Can't predict the future but I think rate reductions or at least one by the end of the year is at least 65-70% likely in my opinion. The stock price at the time of the last rate hike was around a peak of $26-27 before dropping after that but staying around $17-23 til 2024.
*R2 model, if Rivian starts improving their financial situation and that they look like they will be able to stay in business to launch the more affordable R2 which there should be a robust preorder demand I think this will have a good impact on the stock price. They will probably releease preorder numbers at some point this year and if they do that will probably help the stock price on their own. I would estimate that there are 60k-100K R2 Preorders and as that is a much more affordable price point the closer we get to the 2026 projected launch the better rivians stock price should be.
My positions: 170 Shares and 21x $20 calls for January 2025 with plans to add another $10k worth of a mix of calls at varying strikes and shares in the near future. If you do your research and decide to buy calls/puts dated out in 2025 or beyond make sure to check the bid/ask and put in a limit order so you aren't burned by large bid/ask gaps. I also own a Rivian Quad R1T
I would like to address the apple partnership speculation last. This is all rumor based and should be taken as such and not as factual in any capacity. As to what validity to it I wouldn't care to guess but there are many options in which a partnership of some sort would make sense and a lot of different options as to how that would take shape.
*Apple could simply lease/sell the research from Project Titan to Rivian for cheap as they spent a lot of money on it and Rivian was asked on the Quarter 1 24 call how they plan to be able to fund future development of their driver+ software (self driving).
Apple spent a lot of money on project titan and it would be a waste if none of that data was useful or ever used.
*The rumors of the apple rivian partnership was credited to an unnamed supplier in Asia. This could be relevant because if Rivian is purchasing or looking into purchasing Apple chips (to power self driving AI assistants) or anything like sensors of the same kind that apple used on its test cars for project titan, could make the rumor a bit more credible. If any information comes out supporting that Rivian is buying apple related hardware this could impact the stock price upward.
*maybe this could simply be a planned implementation of Carplay with the new upcoming version of Carplay being added to R1 and future R2 lineups. Given that no one is going to refuse to buy a Rivian if it introduces the completely 100% optional carplay and that Rivian has a real issue with the lack of software in its vehicles (I can't name another vehicle that doesn't have integrated text messaging) I could only see this only helping demand as there are plenty of soccer moms who wouldn't buy a car without carplay.
*could be a partnership to build apple branded R1/R2/R3 vehicles. Rivian vehicles look good and have a good interior quality thats better than what you would expect. I could see apple badging and functionality being added to a Rivian vehicle to be sold as the apple car.
They could even throw an apple chip in there to run the center screen and it could basically be an IPAD and run all the ipad apps to instantly compete with tesla on functionality and breadth of media/games etc.
Think of like how Ford had an Eddie Bauer edition of their Expedition vehicle years ago. Makes way more sense than apple starting their own car manufacturing and Rivian makes a whole lot of sense for Apple to partner with due to quality of the vehicle.
Note I dont believe the chances are anything but low for most of the speculation about Apple above, but if there was a major or even minor partnership with apple, expect the stock to take off.
Even without any of the apple things above taking place, I think if Q4 profitability happens the Rivian stock price could be above $20 again in 2025. While there are chances of negative catalysts taking place such as dilution so that Rivian can raise cash and other negative things that could occur so take care to make your own informed decisions do the research and dont risk more than you can afford to lose.
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take this information as you will and make your own financial decisions.
Positive Catalysts and likelihood of occurring
*Rivian has just completed their plant shutdown in order to streamline operations and promote productivity which should also impact profitability.
As this has already occurred the chance is 100% and unless they are complete idiots should in fact lead to greater productivity and in turn profitability aka less $ lost per vehicle, it remains to be seen how much impact this will have on operations
*Rivian has changed suppliers on certain things like sensors and cameras as they are doing a refresh on the current R1 lineup. Chances of occurring is 100% and based on what Wassym from Rivian has stated should lead to increased capability including self driving capability. May lead to increased demand.
*Rivian has access to the Tesla charging network and is currently in the proceess of sending out CCS to NACS adapters for free to current owners. Chance of occurring 100% as this has happened / is in progress. Some rivian owners have already bought their own adapters. This should solve the issue of the charging station woes and lead to reduced range anxiety for current and potential owners as road trips become basically a non issue. Just happened recently so should lead to increased demand going forward.
*EV tax credits are currently being looked at to be reworked in 2025 the details are still in flux, but as Rivians currently only qualify for $3750 tax credits to those who are under the income limits this is more likely to be a beneficial change to rivian than to hurt rivian. I'd say the chances of a rework to EV tax credit rules are 100% as the current EV tax credit rules are stupid and everyone knows it. The chance of it being beneficial to Rivian is currently unknown as they could increase the amount Rivian owners would qualify to receive or increase the amount of potential Rivian buyers who would be eligible. Worst case I could see no change for Rivian,
I dont see Rivian buyers less eligible or receiving less credit than they do now.
*Rivian becomes positive gross margin by Q4 on a per vehicle basis. This is what Rivian is pushing for and what they say they are striving for on their earning calls. For this to occur they would have to make great strides to profitability. Whether they meet their goal or just get close remains to be seen. I think this is both a potential positive catalyst if they meet this goal or get really close as it should greatly increase stock buyer sentiment. Conversely if they fall well short then this could be a very negative catalyst. its hard to assign a chance to this occurring with so many variables that could happen between here and there.
*Interest rates reducing. Interest rates haven't increased since July of 2023. As the rates have been sustained since then that may have weakened demand somewhat. However I believe it is more likely for interest rates to be reduced than to be increased further. If interest rates somehow increased I couldn't see how they could possibly sustain more than an additional .25 or .50 total increase from where they are now and even then I think those are unlikely. I think its more likely that interest rates are reduced at least .25 by the end of the year with further rate reductions likely in 2025. This should increase consumer sentiment toward both the stock and toward demand.
Can't predict the future but I think rate reductions or at least one by the end of the year is at least 65-70% likely in my opinion. The stock price at the time of the last rate hike was around a peak of $26-27 before dropping after that but staying around $17-23 til 2024.
*R2 model, if Rivian starts improving their financial situation and that they look like they will be able to stay in business to launch the more affordable R2 which there should be a robust preorder demand I think this will have a good impact on the stock price. They will probably releease preorder numbers at some point this year and if they do that will probably help the stock price on their own. I would estimate that there are 60k-100K R2 Preorders and as that is a much more affordable price point the closer we get to the 2026 projected launch the better rivians stock price should be.
My positions: 170 Shares and 21x $20 calls for January 2025 with plans to add another $10k worth of a mix of calls at varying strikes and shares in the near future. If you do your research and decide to buy calls/puts dated out in 2025 or beyond make sure to check the bid/ask and put in a limit order so you aren't burned by large bid/ask gaps. I also own a Rivian Quad R1T
I would like to address the apple partnership speculation last. This is all rumor based and should be taken as such and not as factual in any capacity. As to what validity to it I wouldn't care to guess but there are many options in which a partnership of some sort would make sense and a lot of different options as to how that would take shape.
*Apple could simply lease/sell the research from Project Titan to Rivian for cheap as they spent a lot of money on it and Rivian was asked on the Quarter 1 24 call how they plan to be able to fund future development of their driver+ software (self driving).
Apple spent a lot of money on project titan and it would be a waste if none of that data was useful or ever used.
*The rumors of the apple rivian partnership was credited to an unnamed supplier in Asia. This could be relevant because if Rivian is purchasing or looking into purchasing Apple chips (to power self driving AI assistants) or anything like sensors of the same kind that apple used on its test cars for project titan, could make the rumor a bit more credible. If any information comes out supporting that Rivian is buying apple related hardware this could impact the stock price upward.
*maybe this could simply be a planned implementation of Carplay with the new upcoming version of Carplay being added to R1 and future R2 lineups. Given that no one is going to refuse to buy a Rivian if it introduces the completely 100% optional carplay and that Rivian has a real issue with the lack of software in its vehicles (I can't name another vehicle that doesn't have integrated text messaging) I could only see this only helping demand as there are plenty of soccer moms who wouldn't buy a car without carplay.
*could be a partnership to build apple branded R1/R2/R3 vehicles. Rivian vehicles look good and have a good interior quality thats better than what you would expect. I could see apple badging and functionality being added to a Rivian vehicle to be sold as the apple car.
They could even throw an apple chip in there to run the center screen and it could basically be an IPAD and run all the ipad apps to instantly compete with tesla on functionality and breadth of media/games etc.
Think of like how Ford had an Eddie Bauer edition of their Expedition vehicle years ago. Makes way more sense than apple starting their own car manufacturing and Rivian makes a whole lot of sense for Apple to partner with due to quality of the vehicle.
Note I dont believe the chances are anything but low for most of the speculation about Apple above, but if there was a major or even minor partnership with apple, expect the stock to take off.
Even without any of the apple things above taking place, I think if Q4 profitability happens the Rivian stock price could be above $20 again in 2025. While there are chances of negative catalysts taking place such as dilution so that Rivian can raise cash and other negative things that could occur so take care to make your own informed decisions do the research and dont risk more than you can afford to lose.
2024.05.14 21:31 Any_Law5508 OTA Updates.. its just getting silly now?
 | I know my story isn't too dissimilar from others here, and I've posted a few times about it. I have a '22 ER Lariat that has not taken an OTA in well over 1yr. submitted by Any_Law5508 to F150Lightning [link] [comments] I've taken it to two dealers; both kept the vehicle for some time, worked with their FSV (ford technical rep) and continue to tell me that they have reviewed all modules and everything is up-to-date. There's nothing more they can do. All recalls have been performed, etc. I just need to wait and hope that the truck will detect an OTA available and install. I feel lost. For the last year plus this is the only screen I see. I guess my questions are;
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2024.05.14 20:35 ArtWindsorEssex AWE at Night - May 2024
DATE: Thursday, May 16th, 2024 TIME: 5pm – 9pm LOCATION: Art Windsor-Essex, 401 Riverside Dr. W, Windsor, ON
COST:
Participants are encouraged to display their drawings as part of a display in the WFCU Eco Lounge on AWE’s Third Floor.
Jace Pillon is AWE’s Indigenous Youth Mentee. Jace is from Thessalon First Nation, and currently attends F.J. Brennan Catholic High School. Ever since a young age, he has been interested in all forms of art from paintings, to literature and music. Other interests are cars, computers, & giving back in any he can. Jace plans to attend St. Clair College for a degree in Indigenous community work.
The project was recently awarded second place at St Clair College’s Ford Innovation Showcase. Hear from the students and St Clair faculty members about the power of partnership and collaboration driving innovation in our region.
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COST:
- Current AWE and/or Museum Windsor Members: Free admission to both Art Windsor-Essex and the Chimczuk Museum
- Non-Members: $13.25 – Admission to both Art Windsor-Essex and the Chimczuk Museum
Save the date! On May 16th, Art Windsor-Essex is open late for an evening of art activities, community conversations, guided tours, and good vibes.
Art Activity: Creative Ecologies with Garvin Chinnia ⎮ 5pm – 9pm, 2nd floor Education Studio
Join us for the Creative Ecologies Workshop, hosted by the SMArt Communications program at the University of Windsor! This workshop is for students and community members who want to learn about how drawing can connect us with nature. Participants will make circular drawings of plants and materials found on the gallery’s Green Roof Terrace, using small microscopes. Through observational drawing, participants will exemplify the inherent fragility and subjectivity of our local ecology as it relates to the degrees of change in species abundance, composition, and environmental disturbances.Participants are encouraged to display their drawings as part of a display in the WFCU Eco Lounge on AWE’s Third Floor.
Teen Tour: Waawiiatanong Forever with Jace Pillon ⎮ 5pm – 5:30pm, AWE, 2nd floor galleries
Join co-curator Jace Pillon for a guided tour of Waawiiatanong Forever. Complete a bingo treasure hunt for a chance to win prizes! Waawiiatanong Forever is a photography and postcard project that celebrates the representation of women and two-spirit folks and their families within our vibrant community.Jace Pillon is AWE’s Indigenous Youth Mentee. Jace is from Thessalon First Nation, and currently attends F.J. Brennan Catholic High School. Ever since a young age, he has been interested in all forms of art from paintings, to literature and music. Other interests are cars, computers, & giving back in any he can. Jace plans to attend St. Clair College for a degree in Indigenous community work.
Guided Tour: Chariots of Fire: A History of Windsor’s Firefighting Equipment⎮ 5:30pm – 6pm, Chimczuk Museum, main floor
Join guest curators Walter McCall and Jeff Topliffe for a guided tour of their exhibit Chariots of Fire: A History of Windsor’s Firefighting Equipment. The exhibit explores the history of the Windsor Fire Department (W.F.D.) through some of the unique and innovative pieces of firefighting equipment and machinery that were used in the past. The exhibition features historical photographs, firefighting equipment, badges, and other unique items rarely seen by the public.Artist Talk: Tony Mosna ⎮ 6pm – 6:30pm, 3rd floor galleries
Join artist Tony Mosna and Emily McKibbon, Head of Exhibitions and Collections at AWE, for an artist talk. Mosna’s work is currently on display in The Once and Future City, co-curated by Shanthi Senthe and Anneke Smit (Windsor Law’s Centre for Cities) and Emily McKibbon.Safety in the Downtown Core: A Community Conversation ⎮ 6:30pm – 7pm, 3rd floor galleries
Join us for this month’s community conversation, Safety in the Downtown Core: A Community conversation. A panel of local voices will address the struggles, successes and promised initiatives aimed at revitalizing downtown Windsor. What barriers keep you from visiting downtown? What makes you feel safe in our community? With speakers Sarah Dewar (Maiden Lane Wine & Spirits), Shane Lyon (Culture Shock Bead Co.) and Chris MacLeod (Chair, Downtown Windsor, BIA), moderated by Dan MacDonald.Art Windsor-Essex App Presentation⎮ 7pm – 7:30pm, 3rd floor galleries
In partnership with St Clair College’s Mobile App Development program, AWE is excited to demonstrate our new interactive app for Look Again! Outside St Clair College. Students Chris Green and Yash Pindiwala created this app to enrich student experience on campus by providing information on the installed reproductions as well as a collaborative platform that invites the campus community to contribute their own creative works!The project was recently awarded second place at St Clair College’s Ford Innovation Showcase. Hear from the students and St Clair faculty members about the power of partnership and collaboration driving innovation in our region.
Music, food, and drink ⎮ 7pm – 9pm, 3rd floor
Let’s celebrate! Head up to the third floor to join us for music, food and drinks by Windsor Eats, and good vibes.2024.05.14 20:31 ArtWindsorEssex AWE at Night - May 2024
DATE: Thursday, May 16th, 2024 TIME: 5pm – 9pm LOCATION: 401 Riverside Dr. W, Windsor, ON
COST:
Participants are encouraged to display their drawings as part of a display in the WFCU Eco Lounge on AWE’s Third Floor.
Jace Pillon is AWE’s Indigenous Youth Mentee. Jace is from Thessalon First Nation, and currently attends F.J. Brennan Catholic High School. Ever since a young age, he has been interested in all forms of art from paintings, to literature and music. Other interests are cars, computers, & giving back in any he can. Jace plans to attend St. Clair College for a degree in Indigenous community work.
The project was recently awarded second place at St Clair College’s Ford Innovation Showcase. Hear from the students and St Clair faculty members about the power of partnership and collaboration driving innovation in our region.
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COST:
- Current AWE and/or Museum Windsor Members: Free admission to both Art Windsor-Essex and the Chimczuk Museum
- Non-Members: $13.25 – Admission to both Art Windsor-Essex and the Chimczuk Museum
Save the date! On May 16th, Art Windsor-Essex is open late for an evening of art activities, community conversations, guided tours, and good vibes.
Art Activity: Creative Ecologies with Garvin Chinnia ⎮ 5pm – 9pm, 2nd floor Education Studio
Join us for the Creative Ecologies Workshop, hosted by the SMArt Communications program at the University of Windsor! This workshop is for students and community members who want to learn about how drawing can connect us with nature. Participants will make circular drawings of plants and materials found on the gallery’s Green Roof Terrace, using small microscopes. Through observational drawing, participants will exemplify the inherent fragility and subjectivity of our local ecology as it relates to the degrees of change in species abundance, composition, and environmental disturbances.Participants are encouraged to display their drawings as part of a display in the WFCU Eco Lounge on AWE’s Third Floor.
Teen Tour: Waawiiatanong Forever with Jace Pillon ⎮ 5pm – 5:30pm, AWE, 2nd floor galleries
Join co-curator Jace Pillon for a guided tour of Waawiiatanong Forever. Complete a bingo treasure hunt for a chance to win prizes! Waawiiatanong Forever is a photography and postcard project that celebrates the representation of women and two-spirit folks and their families within our vibrant community.Jace Pillon is AWE’s Indigenous Youth Mentee. Jace is from Thessalon First Nation, and currently attends F.J. Brennan Catholic High School. Ever since a young age, he has been interested in all forms of art from paintings, to literature and music. Other interests are cars, computers, & giving back in any he can. Jace plans to attend St. Clair College for a degree in Indigenous community work.
Guided Tour: Chariots of Fire: A History of Windsor’s Firefighting Equipment⎮ 5:30pm – 6pm, Chimczuk Museum, main floor
Join guest curators Walter McCall and Jeff Topliffe for a guided tour of their exhibit Chariots of Fire: A History of Windsor’s Firefighting Equipment. The exhibit explores the history of the Windsor Fire Department (W.F.D.) through some of the unique and innovative pieces of firefighting equipment and machinery that were used in the past. The exhibition features historical photographs, firefighting equipment, badges, and other unique items rarely seen by the public.Artist Talk: Tony Mosna ⎮ 6pm – 6:30pm, 3rd floor galleries
Join artist Tony Mosna and Emily McKibbon, Head of Exhibitions and Collections at AWE, for an artist talk. Mosna’s work is currently on display in The Once and Future City, co-curated by Shanthi Senthe and Anneke Smit (Windsor Law’s Centre for Cities) and Emily McKibbon.Safety in the Downtown Core: A Community Conversation ⎮ 6:30pm – 7pm, 3rd floor galleries
Join us for this month’s community conversation, Safety in the Downtown Core: A Community conversation. A panel of local voices will address the struggles, successes and promised initiatives aimed at revitalizing downtown Windsor. What barriers keep you from visiting downtown? What makes you feel safe in our community? With speakers Sarah Dewar (Maiden Lane Wine & Spirits), Shane Lyon (Culture Shock Bead Co.) and Chris MacLeod (Chair, Downtown Windsor, BIA), moderated by Dan MacDonald.Art Windsor-Essex App Presentation⎮ 7pm – 7:30pm, 3rd floor galleries
In partnership with St Clair College’s Mobile App Development program, AWE is excited to demonstrate our new interactive app for Look Again! Outside St Clair College. Students Chris Green and Yash Pindiwala created this app to enrich student experience on campus by providing information on the installed reproductions as well as a collaborative platform that invites the campus community to contribute their own creative works!The project was recently awarded second place at St Clair College’s Ford Innovation Showcase. Hear from the students and St Clair faculty members about the power of partnership and collaboration driving innovation in our region.
Music, food, and drink ⎮ 7pm – 9pm, 3rd floor
Let’s celebrate! Head up to the third floor to join us for music, food and drinks by Windsor Eats, and good vibes.2024.05.14 19:31 jravitz [WTS] 280+ Bottles - USA SELLER - Niche, Designer, Hard to Find, Discontinued and Vintage (Bottle)
Post here and/or PM me with any questions. Shipping is $5. International is available, please discuss. Free samples with every purchase! Payment is by Venmo, CashApp or Zelle, PayPal must inquire.
Only swapping for 200mL Baccarat Rouge 540 Extrait and Louis Vuitton Symphony at this time.
All of my contact info as well as all of my bottles for sale, are available in my spreadsheet which you should bookmark and look at for a more updated inventory
Spreadsheet
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Only swapping for 200mL Baccarat Rouge 540 Extrait and Louis Vuitton Symphony at this time.
All of my contact info as well as all of my bottles for sale, are available in my spreadsheet which you should bookmark and look at for a more updated inventory
Spreadsheet
| HOUSE | FRAGRANCE | SIZE | REMAINING | Notes/Condition | Price | Type | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Amouage | Amber Sogara | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $335 | Niche |
| 2 | Amouage | Incense Rori Attar | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $299 | Niche |
| 3 | Amouage | Orris Wakan Attar | 12mL | 99% Full | Full Presentation | $299 | Niche |
| 4 | Amouage | Rose Aqor Attar | 12mL | 99% Full | Full Presentation | $299 | Niche |
| 5 | Amouage | Saffron Hamra Attar | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $299 | Niche |
| 6 | Andy Tauer | Cologne du Maghreb | 50mL | 99% Full | First Release, Rectangular Clear Bottle; With box | $95 | Niche |
| 7 | Bond No. 9 | Central Park West | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 8 | Bond No. 9 | Dubai Jade | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
| 9 | Bond No. 9 | Hamptons | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 10 | Bond No. 9 | Madison Square Park | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 11 | Bond No. 9 | NOMAD | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $169 | Niche |
| 12 | Bond No. 9 | Riverside Drive | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 13 | Bond No. 9 | So New York | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 14 | Bond No. 9 | Sutton Place | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 15 | Bond No. 9 | Wall Street | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
| 16 | By Kilian | Bamboo Harmony | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 17 | By Kilian | Black Phantom | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 18 | By Kilian | Can't Stop Loving You | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $185 | Niche |
| 19 | By Kilian | Forbidden Games | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $125 | Niche |
| 20 | By Kilian | Gold Knight | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 21 | By Kilian | Gold Knight | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $145 | Niche |
| 22 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad | 250mL | 99% Full | Decanter; No Box | $650 | Niche |
| 23 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $135 | Niche |
| 24 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad Eau Fraiche | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $180 | Niche |
| 25 | By Kilian | Intoxicated | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 26 | By Kilian | L'Heure Verte | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
| 27 | By Kilian | Moonlight In Heaven | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 28 | By Kilian | Roses on Ice | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
| 29 | Byredo | Eyes Closed | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
| 30 | Byredo | Infloresence | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
| 31 | Byredo | Lil Fleur | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
| 32 | Byredo | Sunday Cologne | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
| 33 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | Beige Parfum | 15mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
| 34 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | Misia EdT | 200mL | 90% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $325 | Niche |
| 35 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | No. 22 EdT | 200mL | 95% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $325 | Niche |
| 36 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | 7 Mini Set as Pictured | 7x 5mL | 100% Full | 7 Official Minis from 2010-2011... Mitzah, Milly-A-La-Foret, Granville, Cologne Royale, Eau Noire, New Look 1947 | $180 | Niche |
| 37 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Bois D'Argent | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0V01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
| 38 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Cologne Royale | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1X01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
| 39 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Diorissima | 7.5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini; No Cannister - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
| 40 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Eau Noire | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1R01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
| 41 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Eden Roc | 7.5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
| 42 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Granville | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0V01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
| 43 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Milly-La-Foret | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0W01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
| 44 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | New Look 1947 | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1R01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
| 45 | Clive Christian | C for Men | 50mL | 95% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
| 46 | Clive Christian | I Pour Femme (Woody Floral with Vintage Rose) | 50mL | 99% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
| 47 | Clive Christian | Rock Rose | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $229 | Niche |
| 48 | Clive Christian | X Pour Femme | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
| 49 | Creed | Aventus - 19P21 (Decant) | 50mL | 100% Full | Magnetic Cap Decant | $169 | Niche |
| 50 | Creed | Aventus - F1396 | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $209 | Niche |
| 51 | Creed | Aventus for Her - F Batch | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
| 52 | Creed | Bois du Portugal | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 53 | Creed | Carmina - F1449 | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Cap or Box) | $199 | Niche |
| 54 | Creed | Erolfa | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap | $185 | Niche |
| 55 | Creed | Green Irish Tweed | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $195 | Niche |
| 56 | Creed | Himalaya - F Batch | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 57 | Creed | Jardin D'Amalfi | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box, No Cap) | $199 | Niche |
| 58 | Creed | Millesime Imperial | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 59 | Creed | Original Santal | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 60 | Creed | Original Vetiver | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 61 | Creed | Queen of Silk | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Metal Cap | $275 | Niche |
| 62 | Creed | Refillable Atomizer (5mL Leather Wrapped) Blue | 5mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $85 | Niche |
| 63 | Creed | Refillable Atomizer (5mL Leather Wrapped) Grey | 5mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $85 | Niche |
| 64 | Creed | Royal Oud - F Batch | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $260 | Niche |
| 65 | Creed | Royal Water - F238 | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
| 66 | Creed | Silver Mountain Water - 21V01A | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
| 67 | Creed | Spice and Wood | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $219 | Niche |
| 68 | Creed | Viking - F BATCH | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
| 69 | Creed | Viking Cologne | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap | $185 | Niche |
| 70 | Creed | Virgin Island Water | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $195 | Niche |
| 71 | Creed | White Amber - 17R01 | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $155 | Niche |
| 72 | Diptyque | Eau de Papier EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $100 | Niche |
| 73 | Diptyque | Ombre Dans L'eau EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $100 | Niche |
| 74 | Diptyque | Oyedo EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
| 75 | Diptyque | Philosykos EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
| 76 | Fragrance Du Bois | Brume du Matin | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
| 77 | Fragrance Du Bois | Cannabis Blue | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
| 78 | Fragrance Du Bois | Cannabis Intense | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
| 79 | Fragrance Du Bois | HERITAGE | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $330 | Niche |
| 80 | Fragrance du Bois | Lovers | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $325 | Niche |
| 81 | Fragrance Du Bois | New York Fifth Avenue | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
| 82 | Fragrance Du Bois | SAHRAA | 100mL | 99% Full | Full presentation with Box | $399 | Niche |
| 83 | Fragrance Du Bois | Siberian Rose | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
| 84 | Frederic Malle | Cologne Indellible | 100mL | 85% Full | Full presentation with Box | $175 | Niche |
| 85 | Frederic Malle | Eau de Magnolia | 10mL | 100% Full | Official Travel Spray | $55 | Niche |
| 86 | Frederic Malle | Monsieur | 10mL | 95% Full | Official Travel Spray | $55 | Niche |
| 87 | Frederic Malle | Promise | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New (Not Sealed) | $315 | Niche |
| 88 | Gallagher | Bergamot Silk | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box | $79 | Niche |
| 89 | Giorgio Armani / Armani Prive | Pierre de Lune | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $155 | Niche |
| 90 | Giorgio Armani / Armani Prive | Rose Alexandrie | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $155 | Niche |
| 91 | Guerlain | Angelique Noire | 30mL | 100% Full | Mini Bee Bottle Decant | $215 | Niche |
| 92 | Guerlain | Angelique Noire | 10mL | 100% Full | Tall Glass Decant | $55 | Niche |
| 93 | Guerlain | French Kiss | 75mL | 98% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $450 | Niche |
| 94 | Guerlain | Frenchy Lavende | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $399 | Niche |
| 95 | Guerlain | Herbes Troublantes | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $339 | Niche |
| 96 | Guerlain | Jasmin Bonheur | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $369 | Niche |
| 97 | Guerlain | Neroli Outrenoir | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $339 | Niche |
| 98 | Guerlain | Spiriteuse Double Vanille | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $399 | Niche |
| 99 | Guerlain | Tobacco Honey | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $399 | Niche |
| 100 | Hermes / Hermessence | Agar Ebene | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $150 | Niche |
| 101 | Hermes / Hermessence | Ambre Narguile | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
| 102 | Hermes / Hermessence | Cedre Sambac | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 103 | Hermes / Hermessence | Epice Marine | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
| 104 | Hermes / Hermessence | Myrrhe Eglantine | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
| 105 | Hermes / Hermessence | Poivre Samarcade | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
| 106 | Hermes / Hermessence | Santal Massoia | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
| 107 | Hermes / Hermessence | Vetiver Tonka | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
| 108 | House of Sillage | Nouez Moi | 75mL | 99% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $120 | Niche |
| 109 | I Profumi di Firenze | Caterina De Medici | 50mL | 99% Full | No Box | $35 | Niche |
| 110 | Initio | High Frequency | 90mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
| 111 | Initio | Oud for Happiness | 90mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $189 | Niche |
| 112 | Jo Malone | English Pear & Freesia | 30mL | 100% Full | No Box | $50 | Niche |
| 113 | Le Labo | Bigarade 18 - Hong Kong Exclusive | 50mL | 100% Full | Full Bottle, Retail Label | $299 | Niche |
| 114 | Le Labo | Mousse de Chene 30 - Amsterdam City Exclusive | 50mL | 99% Full | Sprayed Once to Test / Brand New; No Box | $259 | Niche |
| 115 | Le Labo | Oud 27 | 50mL | 99% Full | Full presentation with Box | $169 | Niche |
| 116 | Le Labo | Santal 33 | 50mL | 100% Full | Full Bottle, Retail Label | $135 | Niche |
| 117 | Liquides Imaginaires | Bloody Wood | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
| 118 | Liquides Imaginaires | Desert Sauve | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
| 119 | Liquides Imaginaires | Fleur de Sable | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
| 120 | Liquides Imaginaires | Fleuve Tendre | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
| 121 | Liquides Imaginaires | Sancti | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
| 122 | Loewe | 7 EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
| 123 | Loewe | Aire Anthesis | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
| 124 | Loewe | Esencia EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $120 | Niche |
| 125 | Loewe | Esencia Elixir | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
| 126 | Loewe | Man 001 EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $120 | Niche |
| 127 | Louis Vuitton | Contre Moi | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester (Bottle may show some damage, Cap has no paint/is peeling) | $385 | Niche |
| 128 | Louis Vuitton | Sun Song | 100mL | 98% Full | Tester (Bottle is scratched, may have an engraving, and Cap has no paint/is peeling) | $425 | Niche |
| 129 | Louis Vuitton | Sun Song | 200mL | 98% Full | Dummy Bottle, filled with real juice. I don't think it's refillable. | $750 | Niche |
| 130 | Maison Crivelli | Bois Datchai | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $169 | Niche |
| 131 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | 724 | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $355 | Niche |
| 132 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | 724 | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 133 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | A la Rose | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $315 | Niche |
| 134 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Femme EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $150 | Niche |
| 135 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Femme Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
| 136 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Homme EdT | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
| 137 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
| 138 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $145 | Niche |
| 139 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
| 140 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Media Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $150 | Niche |
| 141 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
| 142 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $125 | Niche |
| 143 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $225 | Niche |
| 144 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 35mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
| 145 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
| 146 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $215 | Niche |
| 147 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
| 148 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $125 | Niche |
| 149 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
| 150 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Baccarat Rouge 540 EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $209 | Niche |
| 151 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Baccarat Rouge 540 Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $300 | Niche |
| 152 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Feminine Pluriel | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $335 | Niche |
| 153 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Feminine Pluriel Special Edition Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Full Presentation With Mirror Display | $499 | Niche |
| 154 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Gentle Fluidity Gold | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $365 | Niche |
| 155 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Gentle Fluidity Gold | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 156 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | L'eau a La Rose | 35mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
| 157 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | L'Homme a la Rose | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 158 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Masculin Pluriel | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 159 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
| 160 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
| 161 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Silk Mood EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
| 162 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Silk Mood Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
| 163 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Petit Matin | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $145 | Niche |
| 164 | Maison Lancome | Orange Bigarades | 100mL | 100% Full | Full presentation with Box | $229 | Niche |
| 165 | Mark Birley | Charles Street | 75mL | 97% Full | Travel Version | $90 | Niche |
| 166 | Memo Paris | French Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 167 | Memo Paris | Italian Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 168 | Memo Paris | Lailabella | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 169 | Memo Paris | Marfa | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 170 | Memo Paris | Moon Fever | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 171 | Memo Paris | Oriental Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
| 172 | Mind Games | As-Suli's Diamond | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
| 173 | Mind Games | Gardez | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
| 174 | Mind Games | Vieri | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
| 175 | Mizensir | Bois de Mysore | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 176 | Mizensir | Cologne de Matte | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 177 | Mizensir | Ideal Oud | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 178 | Mizensir | Rose Exaltante | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 179 | Mizensir | Tonic Water | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 180 | Mizensir | Vert Empire | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
| 181 | Oh Mon Dieu! | L'objet | 100mL | 100% Full | Full presentation with Box | $125 | Niche |
| 182 | Oliver and Co. | M.O.U.S.S.E. | 50mL | 99% Full | Limited Edition 87/133 | $110 | Niche |
| 183 | Parfums de Marley | Valaya | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
| 184 | Penhaligon's | Elixir | 100mL | 90% Full | No Box | $250 | Niche |
| 185 | Penhaligon's | Petra | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
| 186 | Penhaligon's | Cairo | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $220 | Niche |
| 187 | Pomare's Stolen Perfume | Angel's Share | 9mL | 70% Full | No Box | $40 | Niche |
| 188 | Precious Liquid | Iced Juniper | 75mL | 95% Full | Full presentation with Box (Limited Edition) | $135 | Niche |
| 189 | Roja Dove | Creation-E Essence de Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $165 | Niche |
| 190 | Roja Dove | Danger Pour Femme | 50mL | 100% Full | 99% Full with Box | $275 | Niche |
| 191 | Roja Dove | Elixir | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $175 | Niche |
| 192 | Roja Dove | Elixir Essence Pour Femme | 100mL | 100% Full | No Box | $175 | Niche |
| 193 | Roja Dove | Qatar | 50mL | 99% Full | Full Presentation | $339 | Niche |
| 194 | Roja Dove | Scandal Essence de Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $165 | Niche |
| 195 | Roja Dove | United Arab Emirates (UAE) | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $300 | Niche |
| 196 | Roman Monegal | L'eau de Rose | 50mL | 97% Full | $70 | Niche | |
| 197 | Santa Maria Novella | Sandalo | 100mL | 95% Full | No Box | $80 | Niche |
| 198 | Sospiro | Deep Amber Ocean | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, No Box | $170 | Niche |
| 199 | Sospiro | Deep Amber Ocean | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $180 | Niche |
| 200 | Spirit of Dubai | Bahar | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap and Travel Case | $175 | Niche |
| 201 | Spirit of Dubai | Rimal | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap and Travel Case | $175 | Niche |
| 202 | Tiziana Terenzi | Attar Cas | 13mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $225 | Niche |
| 203 | Tiziana Terenzi | Chiron | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
| 204 | Tiziana Terenzi | Draconis | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
| 205 | Tom Ford | Azure Lime - A71 | 50mL | 99% Full | Original Formula | $349 | Niche |
| 206 | Tom Ford | Beau de Jour | 1000mL | 100% Full | Sealed Dramming Bottle | $700 | Niche |
| 207 | Tom Ford | Ebene Fume | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $165 | Niche |
| 208 | Tom Ford | Electric Cherry | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $200 | Niche |
| 209 | Tom Ford | Fleur de Portofino | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
| 210 | Tom Ford | Fougere Platine | 1000mL | 100% Full | Sealed Dramming Bottle | $700 | Niche |
| 211 | Tom Ford | Neroli Portofino | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $140 | Niche |
| 212 | Tom Ford | Plum Japonais | 50mL | 100% Full | Decant (No Box) | $215 | Niche |
| 213 | Tom Ford | Rive Ambre - A63 | 50mL | 99% Full | Original Formula | $225 | Niche |
| 214 | Tom Ford | Rose de Amalfi | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
| 215 | Tom Ford | Santal Blush | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $140 | Niche |
| 216 | Tom Ford | Soleil Neige | 1000mL | 100% Full | Sealed Dramming Bottle | $700 | Niche |
| 217 | Tom Ford | Tobacco Vanille | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $245 | Niche |
| 218 | Tom Ford | Tubereuse Nue | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $150 | Niche |
| 219 | Tom Ford | Vanille Fatale | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $180 | Niche |
| 220 | Tom Ford | White Suede | 1000mL | 100% Full | Sealed Dramming Bottle | $700 | Niche |
| 221 | Washington Tremlett | Black Tie | 100mL | 95% Full | $125 | Niche | |
| 222 | Widian | II Black | 50mL | 99% Full | Tester (No Box) | $149 | Niche |
| 223 | Yves Saint Laurent | Babycat | 125mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $300 | Niche |
| 224 | Acqua di Parma | Magnolia Nobile | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $95 | Designer |
| 225 | Brunello Cucinelli | Pour Homme | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $90 | Designer |
| 226 | Caron | Pour un Homme de Caron Le Matin | 125mL | 100% Full | Opened to test, sprayed once | $69 | Designer |
| 227 | Caron | Pour un Homme de Caron Le Soir | 125mL | 100% Full | Opened to test, sprayed once | $69 | Designer |
| 228 | Caron | Pour Un Homme Impact Parfum | 75mL | 97% Full | No Box | $175 | Designer |
| 229 | Chanel | Allure Homme Sport - Aftershave Balm | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box | $65 | Designer |
| 230 | Chanel | Allure Pour Femme EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $65 | Designer |
| 231 | Chanel | Bleu de Chanel - Aftershave Balm | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box, Minor Cosmetic Damage | $55 | Designer |
| 232 | Chanel | Bleu de Chanel - Aftershave Lotion | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box, Minor Cosmetic Damage | $55 | Designer |
| 233 | Chanel | Coco EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $85 | Designer |
| 234 | Chanel | Coco Mademoiselle - Moisturizing Body Lotion | 200mL | 99% Full | No Box | $55 | Designer |
| 235 | Chanel | Coco Noir | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $100 | Designer |
| 236 | Chanel | Cristalle Eau Vert EdT Concentree | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Designer |
| 237 | Chanel | Cristalle EdP | 50mL | 95% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Designer |
| 238 | Chanel | Gabrielle Essence | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $100 | Designer |
| 239 | Chanel | No. 19 | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $115 | Designer |
| 240 | Chanel | No. 5 Eau Premiere | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $85 | Designer |
| 241 | Chanel | No. 5 EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $95 | Designer |
| 242 | Chanel | Platinum Egoiste | 75mL | 99% Full | SPLASH, NOT SPRAY Older Formulation | $125 | Designer |
| 243 | Christian Dior | Dior Homme Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed (Packaging may be slightly damaged) | $175 | Designer |
| 244 | Christian Dior | J'adore in Joy EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap, No Box | $60 | Designer |
| 245 | Floris | Cefiro | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap, No Box | $59 | Designer |
| 246 | Gucci | Gucci Guilty Absolute | 90mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $70 | Designer |
| 247 | Guerlain | Habit Rouge Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $130 | Designer |
| 248 | Guerlain | L'Homme Ideal Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $130 | Designer |
| 249 | Guerlain | L'instant de Guerlain Pour Homme EXTREME | 10mL | 100% Full | VINTAGE BLACK RIM - DECANT | $50 | Designer |
| 250 | Guerlain | Vetiver Parfum | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $130 | Designer |
| 251 | Hermes | Twilly | 80mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $65 | Designer |
| 252 | Jo Malone | Amber & Lavender | 30mL | 90% Full | No Box | $52 | Designer |
| 253 | Jo Malone | English Oak & Redcurrant | 30mL | 80% Full | No Box | $49 | Designer |
| 254 | Jo Malone | English Pear & Freesia | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New with Gift Box and Gift Set (Body Wash, Body Lotion) | $180 | Designer |
| 255 | Jo Malone | Rose & White Musk Absolu | 100mL | 100% Full | No Box | $180 | Designer |
| 256 | Jo Malone | Scarlett Poppy Cologne Intense | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $130 | Designer |
| 257 | Lalique | Ombre Noire | 100mL | 100% Full | Sealed | $100 | Designer |
| 258 | Maison Martin Margiela | Replica - Jazz Club | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $80 | Designer |
| 259 | Thierry Mugler | A*MEN | 100mL | 99% Full | Rubber Flask; No Box | $75 | Designer |
| 260 | Amouage | Cristal and Gold Ladies | 50mL | 95% Full | Vintage, Incredibly hard to find. Full presentation in nice condition | $399 | Vintage |
| 261 | Cartier | Santos EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Spray; Refill. | $299 | Vintage |
| 262 | Chanel | Gardenia EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Vintage; Sealed | $350 | Vintage |
| 263 | Crabtree & Evelyn | Crabtree & Evelyn Extract of West Indian and Sicilian Limes | 125mL | 100% Full | Full presentation with Box | $209 | Vintage |
| 264 | Dunhill | Cologne | 125mL | 99% Full | Vintage; Splash | $100 | Vintage |
| 265 | Ermenegildo Zegna | Haitian Vetiver | 125mL | 99% Full | No Box | $300 | Vintage |
| 266 | Escada | Pour Homme Aftershave | 75mL | 100% Full | BNIB Sealed | $165 | Vintage |
| 267 | Escada | Pour Homme Aftershave | 125mL | 100% Full | BNIB Sealed | $240 | Vintage |
| 268 | Floris | Special 127 | 100mL | 98% Full | Vintage; Dark Blue Box., 2 Royal Warrants, Vintage Version | $70 | Vintage |
| 269 | Fragonard | Zizanie | 240mL | 80% Full | Shaker bottle (Splash, not spray) no box. At least 80% Full. | $240 | Vintage |
| 270 | Geo F Trumper | Ajaccio Violets | 100mL | 99% Full | $40 | Vintage | |
| 271 | Gucci | Envy Aftershave | 50mL | 100% Full | BNIB Sealed | $140 | Vintage |
| 272 | Gucci | Envy Aftershave | 100mL | 100% Full | BNIB Sealed | $215 | Vintage |
| 273 | Gucci | Rush for Men | 50mL | 100% Full | Full Presentation; These do not come fully filled | $190 | Vintage |
| 274 | Gucci | Rush for Men Aftershave | 100mL | 100% Full | BNIB Sealed | $140 | Vintage |
| 275 | Guerlain | Heritage EdT | 200mL | 100% Full | New; Vintage; Splash. 1991 Bottle. | $225 | Vintage |
| 276 | Guerlain | Samrasa EdP | 50mL | 100% Full | No Box | $109 | Vintage |
| 277 | Guerlain | Samsara EdT 1992-1993 Formulation | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Cap; No Box | $109 | Vintage |
| 278 | Jean Desprez | Bal a Versailles | 9 Oz | 70% Full | Vintage; Splash; No Box Open to offers on this enormous bottle. | $135 | Vintage |
| 279 | Lacoste | Eau de Sport Vivifiante | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box | $110 | Vintage |
| 280 | Lacoste | Land | 100mL | 99% Full | $130 | Vintage | |
| 281 | Nino Cerruti | Fair Play Pour Homme | 100mL | 99% Full | Full presentation with Box | $275 | Vintage |
| 282 | Paco Rabanne | Eau de Metal | 20mL | 100% Full | Vintage; Mini | $15 | Vintage |
| 283 | Revillon | Pour Homme Eau de Toilette Super Concentrate | 60mL | 99% Full | Atomizer | $190 | Vintage |
| 284 | Revillon | Pour Homme Eau de Toilette Super Concentrate | 90mL | 99% Full | Atomizer | $290 | Vintage |
2024.05.14 15:25 jillianmd Refund Update - Art Institute Discharge
I got the discharge email on May 1 and like most of us was very curious about the potential refund part.
On May 6, my studentaid.gov updated to show I no longer owed any loans. However Nelnet is still showing my loans on their site as of today. However they have been placed in forbearance now so that’s a positive sign that the discharge is being processed on their end.
This morning, May 14, I have an email from Nelnet saying that I have a new letter so I logged in and it says I have an overpayment and need to verify my address so that I can be issued any refund owed.
I called in and verified my address with a nice rep and she said they didn’t have any info yet on the amount I would be refunded or a timeline but that since my contact info is up to date I don’t have to do anything further and will be contacted again.
Here’s hoping it’s the entirety of my payments so far over the last 10 years (about $30,000!) but we’ll see.
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Here’s the text of the letter from Nelnet:
Action Needed: You may be owed a refund. Account: EXXXXXXXXX
Dear (me), Our records indicate that we may have received an overpayment on your account listed above. Please contact us through one of these options to verify your address:
• Call Nelnet at 888-486-4722. For our current hours of operation, visit Nelnet.studentaid.gov/content/contact.
• Call us anytime and use the automated system without speaking to a live representative to verify your address; simply follow the prompts.
• Log in to your online account and verify your address by going to the Profile card on the dashboard.
• Write to us at the following address and return this letter after completing the address verification information below: Nelnet P.O. Box 82526 Lincoln, NE 68501-2526 Check this box if the address shown above is correct. If your address is different than what is shown above, please write your correct address here: Street Address: Apartment number, etc.: City, State & ZIP code: We will then finalize the review of your account and issue a refund if one is due. We must verify your address before we can issue any refund due to ensure the refund is sent to your address. We cannot process any refund until your address has been verified.
Please note: • From the time that you call and verify your address, please allow 60 days for receipt of your refund. If we determine you are not owed a refund, we will notify you in writing.
• If your account was paid in full by consolidation or rehabilitation any voluntary payment(s) you made after rehabilitation or consolidation will be forwarded to your new servicer rather than refunded to you.
• This notice pertains only to non-defaulted debts held by the U.S. Department of Education; it does not pertain to debts held by guaranty agencies or to defaulted William D. Ford Federal Direct Loans.
submitted by jillianmd to StudentLoans [link] [comments]
On May 6, my studentaid.gov updated to show I no longer owed any loans. However Nelnet is still showing my loans on their site as of today. However they have been placed in forbearance now so that’s a positive sign that the discharge is being processed on their end.
This morning, May 14, I have an email from Nelnet saying that I have a new letter so I logged in and it says I have an overpayment and need to verify my address so that I can be issued any refund owed.
I called in and verified my address with a nice rep and she said they didn’t have any info yet on the amount I would be refunded or a timeline but that since my contact info is up to date I don’t have to do anything further and will be contacted again.
Here’s hoping it’s the entirety of my payments so far over the last 10 years (about $30,000!) but we’ll see.
————————————-
Here’s the text of the letter from Nelnet:
Action Needed: You may be owed a refund. Account: EXXXXXXXXX
Dear (me), Our records indicate that we may have received an overpayment on your account listed above. Please contact us through one of these options to verify your address:
• Call Nelnet at 888-486-4722. For our current hours of operation, visit Nelnet.studentaid.gov/content/contact.
• Call us anytime and use the automated system without speaking to a live representative to verify your address; simply follow the prompts.
• Log in to your online account and verify your address by going to the Profile card on the dashboard.
• Write to us at the following address and return this letter after completing the address verification information below: Nelnet P.O. Box 82526 Lincoln, NE 68501-2526 Check this box if the address shown above is correct. If your address is different than what is shown above, please write your correct address here: Street Address: Apartment number, etc.: City, State & ZIP code: We will then finalize the review of your account and issue a refund if one is due. We must verify your address before we can issue any refund due to ensure the refund is sent to your address. We cannot process any refund until your address has been verified.
Please note: • From the time that you call and verify your address, please allow 60 days for receipt of your refund. If we determine you are not owed a refund, we will notify you in writing.
• If your account was paid in full by consolidation or rehabilitation any voluntary payment(s) you made after rehabilitation or consolidation will be forwarded to your new servicer rather than refunded to you.
• This notice pertains only to non-defaulted debts held by the U.S. Department of Education; it does not pertain to debts held by guaranty agencies or to defaulted William D. Ford Federal Direct Loans.
2024.05.14 13:35 SarvGarg Tom Ford Noir de Noir
 | Noir de Noir is categorized as a Chypre fragrance and was launched in 2007. It was created by Jacques Cavallier, Harry Fremont, and Olivier Cresp, so you already know it was going to be a heavyweight. submitted by SarvGarg to DesiFragranceAddicts [link] [comments] The box presentation is excellent, but the bottle itself is a bit of a letdown. While the dark-hued glass is beautiful, it scratches easier than my social anxiety. The golden sticker on the front is also prone to scratching, which might be a turn-off for those who prefer pristine packaging or haven't achieved peak "adulting" yet. The cap bears the brand name in gold and boasts an above-average atomizer. The year is 2018, and my sister is in SG. With my birthday approaching, she asks me what perfume I need because that's what everyone assumes I want as a gift. "Noir Extreme" is what I requested. Lo and behold, she's confused and gets me "Noir de Noir" – a classic sibling move. I assure you I did not make any fuss about it; do not believe what my sister has fabricated about the issue. I was always aware of this perfume but never really cared much about it. After watching YouTube reviews where everyone praised it as dark, seductive, mysterious, sensuous, and other terms borrowed from an erotic novel, I received the perfume. Upon the first spray, I'm like.. TF (not Tom Ford, the other TF), it smells like pan masala gulkand. It took me some time to understand the intricacies of this beauty. To my nose, the perfume opens with a tiny hint of cold spices and roses—a dark dense rose syrup like gulkand in paan. The spices mellow down to reveal all the rose goodness and what appears to be a dark chocolate note, which I suspect is the truffle and vanilla as I have no clue what this fancy dirt mushroom even smells like. There's also some woodiness that can hardly be classified as oud. The mid lasts for a very long time, we're talking 4 - 5 hours, which is roughly the same amount of time it takes to explain this fragrance to a certain person who only likes vanilla body spray from Sol de Janeiro. Finally, in deep dry down, the rose note starts to fade, but never really goes away completely; gourmand vanilla makes its presence felt even more, and the earthy nuance gets bolder with patchouli. Do not make the mistake of judging this perfume with the first sniff; you need to let it complete its transitions. Every stage tells a different story. Give it some time and you'll fall head over heels for this. Performance is insane, to say the least. Two sprays and you're set for the day; any more and you'll be applying for a restraining order against yourself. It projects heavily for 3 hours straight, with sillage for another 2 to 3 hours. It stays over 10 hours on the skin and will require hand sanitiser to remove it. On clothes, it will last until you wash them, twice, with hot water. Strictly a winter scent, do not dare to even look at this bottle in summer unless you want to invoke the Geneva Protocol on chemical warfare. It's ideal for casual settings, date nights with two sprays under your shirt, and perfect for open-air Indian weddings. Those with an affinity towards dark roses will appreciate it as it's perfectly unisex. Should you get it? Well, first and foremost, you must like roses – dry and dense. It's not your regular rose fragrance; there's nothing fresh about this rose, nor is it your typical rose oud oriental fragrance. Be very intentional about this purchase; a blind buy is not recommended. If you're looking for an alternative, Armaf CDNI Women is a very good replica at the price. However, it's only a mirage compared to the original. TLDR; An intense dark rose and dark chocolate unisex scent with vanilla and patchouli, meant for colder weather only. |
2024.05.14 10:36 nextrhymeiwrite Let's give OB4CL credit for
creating mafioso rap. First off, I will recognize that many 90heads think it was G Rap who initiated the whole mafioso rap but I'd argue that gangsta rap is more correct term for what G Rap give a spark to. But it was Raekwon's mafioso attire that truly revised whole game. He took the game from "street, unadulterated, pure gangsta rap" to more sophisticated cristal-drinking mafioso rap. Rae and Ghost on OB4CL crafted the subgenre that changed whole NY rap scene and yielded
Mobb Deep - Hell On Earth
Nas - IWW
GFK - Ironman
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
The Firm - The Album
I think Biggie's RTD and LAD are biggest example of the difference between gangsta rap (rtd) and mafioso rap (lad). On latter, he isn't Biggie anymore, he is fuckin boss, Frank White. The Notorious B.I.G. revamped his image into that of a gun-toting, big-money making, mob-commanding kingpin, most notably on the songs "Niggas Bleed", "What's Beef", "My Downfall", and "I Love the Dough" featuring Jay-Z.
Jay-Z would later reference Cuban Linx in his 2009 song "A Star Is Born" by stating "Wu-Tang gangbanged it, Meth ate / Rae took on a date with the Purple Tape / passed it on to Ason, then Ghostface / they had a hell of a run, stand and ovate." Raekwon later commented in an interview "Jay was a student of our shit and what we accomplished in those days. He'll tell you that himself.
Hell yeah, even Pac from rival coast, as a known fan of the Wu, Tupac Shakur began to refer to himself as Makaveli and gave his Outlawz crew new names, albeit with a militaristic, dictatorial theme.
I mean, I think OB4CL is, top 3, if not the greatest album, of all time in and of itself but that's for another topic, here I am primarily talking about its legacy in a sense that it crafted totally different style, something totally new, something only Rae could as Meth states himself " Raekwon started that. Rae always had that mobster mentality, always liked to watch gangster movies and read mob books and stuff like that, you know? So he pretty much knew the names of the cats and what they was about. He polished his whole style like that."
Long Live OB4CL. I def miss mafioso rap era.
submitted by nextrhymeiwrite to 90sHipHop [link] [comments]
Mobb Deep - Hell On Earth
Nas - IWW
GFK - Ironman
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
The Firm - The Album
I think Biggie's RTD and LAD are biggest example of the difference between gangsta rap (rtd) and mafioso rap (lad). On latter, he isn't Biggie anymore, he is fuckin boss, Frank White. The Notorious B.I.G. revamped his image into that of a gun-toting, big-money making, mob-commanding kingpin, most notably on the songs "Niggas Bleed", "What's Beef", "My Downfall", and "I Love the Dough" featuring Jay-Z.
Jay-Z would later reference Cuban Linx in his 2009 song "A Star Is Born" by stating "Wu-Tang gangbanged it, Meth ate / Rae took on a date with the Purple Tape / passed it on to Ason, then Ghostface / they had a hell of a run, stand and ovate." Raekwon later commented in an interview "Jay was a student of our shit and what we accomplished in those days. He'll tell you that himself.
Hell yeah, even Pac from rival coast, as a known fan of the Wu, Tupac Shakur began to refer to himself as Makaveli and gave his Outlawz crew new names, albeit with a militaristic, dictatorial theme.
I mean, I think OB4CL is, top 3, if not the greatest album, of all time in and of itself but that's for another topic, here I am primarily talking about its legacy in a sense that it crafted totally different style, something totally new, something only Rae could as Meth states himself " Raekwon started that. Rae always had that mobster mentality, always liked to watch gangster movies and read mob books and stuff like that, you know? So he pretty much knew the names of the cats and what they was about. He polished his whole style like that."
Long Live OB4CL. I def miss mafioso rap era.
2024.05.14 08:29 Sebj69 Is it normal to sign a handwritten document like this when buying a car?
It went as follows (I've used a random date and car as an example):
Date: 14/05/24
Ford Focus
Reg: XX24 XXX
Price: £5000
Seller: (name)
Buyer: (name)
Signature: xxxxx
I've only bought 3 cars ever and all times the seller wrote something similar like this for me to sign. I can see the reasoning for it, like for example if the car develops a problem soon after purchase, it covers the seller from any buyer who's trying to make them pay for a repair.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm selling my car to a dealer (through CarWow) and would like to cover myself in a similar way.
Edit: I live in the Midlands, England
submitted by Sebj69 to LegalAdviceUK [link] [comments]
Date: 14/05/24
Ford Focus
Reg: XX24 XXX
Price: £5000
Seller: (name)
Buyer: (name)
Signature: xxxxx
I've only bought 3 cars ever and all times the seller wrote something similar like this for me to sign. I can see the reasoning for it, like for example if the car develops a problem soon after purchase, it covers the seller from any buyer who's trying to make them pay for a repair.
The reason I'm asking is because I'm selling my car to a dealer (through CarWow) and would like to cover myself in a similar way.
Edit: I live in the Midlands, England
2024.05.14 07:00 RedsModerator The Reds fell to the D-backs by a score of 6-5 - Mon, May 13 @ 09:40 PM EDT
Reds @ D-backs - Mon, May 13
Game Status: Final - Score: 6-5 D-backs
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| Reds Batters | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | K | LOB | AVG | OBP | SLG | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | India - 2B | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | .233 | .340 | .316 |
| 2 | De La Cruz, E - SS | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | .262 | .367 | .510 |
| 3 | Steer - LF | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 2 | .248 | .364 | .414 |
| 4 | Stephenson, T - C | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .215 | .308 | .398 |
| 5 | Candelario - 1B | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .220 | .291 | .394 |
| 6 | Ford, M - DH | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | .211 | .250 | .474 |
| 1-Hurtubise - DH | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | |
| 7 | Fairchild - CF | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .189 | .277 | .284 |
| a-Fraley - RF | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .305 | .374 | .390 | |
| 8 | Espinal - 3B | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | .189 | .245 | .244 |
| 9 | Benson - CF | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 1 | .191 | .284 | .374 |
| Totals | 34 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 19 |
| Reds |
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| a-Grounded into a forceout for Fairchild in the 6th. 1-Ran for Ford, M in the 8th. |
| BATTING: 2B: Steer (10, Montgomery); Stephenson, T (5, Montgomery). 3B: Ford, M (1, Ginkel). TB: Candelario 2; De La Cruz, E; Espinal; Ford, M 4; India 2; Steer 2; Stephenson, T 2. RBI: Candelario (16); Ford, M 2 (3); Steer 2 (29). 2-out RBI: Steer 2. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Espinal 3; Stephenson, T; Candelario. GIDP: Espinal; India. Team RISP: 4-for-12. Team LOB: 7. |
| FIELDING: DP: (Stephenson, T-De La Cruz, E). |
| D-backs Batters | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | K | LOB | AVG | OBP | SLG | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Carroll - CF | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | .197 | .291 | .261 |
| 2 | Marte, K - 2B | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | .290 | .339 | .533 |
| 3 | Pederson - DH | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 2 | .298 | .414 | .543 |
| 4 | Walker, C - 1B | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | .265 | .377 | .437 |
| 5 | Gurriel Jr. - LF | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | .235 | .283 | .377 |
| 6 | Suárez, E - 3B | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | .224 | .297 | .342 |
| 7 | Moreno - C | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | .248 | .350 | .356 |
| 8 | Smith, P - RF | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .233 | .273 | .400 |
| a-Grichuk - RF | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .271 | .308 | .407 | |
| McCarthy - RF | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .293 | .372 | .402 | |
| 9 | Newman - SS | 5 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .253 | .280 | .430 |
| Totals | 34 | 6 | 11 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 23 |
| D-backs |
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| a-Popped out for Smith, P in the 6th. |
| BATTING: 2B: Newman 2 (6, Ashcraft, Suter). HR: Moreno (1, 2nd inning off Ashcraft, 0 on, 1 out); Pederson (5, 3rd inning off Ashcraft, 0 on, 0 out). TB: Marte, K; Moreno 4; Newman 6; Pederson 5; Smith, P; Suárez, E; Walker, C. RBI: Moreno (16); Newman 2 (10); Pederson (9); Smith, P (9); Suárez, E (23). 2-out RBI: Suárez, E. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Gurriel Jr.; Walker, C; Grichuk 2; Marte, K 2; Carroll; Newman. SF: Smith, P. Team RISP: 2-for-12. Team LOB: 14. |
| FIELDING: E: Newman (2, fielding). Outfield assists: Gurriel Jr. (De La Cruz, E at 2nd base). DP: 2 (Suárez, E-Marte, K-Walker, C; Newman-Marte, K-Walker, C). |
| Reds Pitchers | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | HR | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ashcraft | 4.0 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 94-55 | 4.12 |
| Pagán | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 17-11 | 4.67 |
| Suter | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13-7 | 4.01 |
| Cruz, F | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 32-16 | 4.24 |
| Wilson (H, 4) | 0.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 14-10 | 6.10 |
| Sims (H, 7) | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1-1 | 5.84 |
| Díaz, A (L, 1-2)(BS, 2) | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 21-9 | 6.75 |
| Totals | 8.1 | 11 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 2 |
| D-backs Pitchers | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | HR | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Montgomery | 5.1 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 101-57 | 4.76 |
| Thompson, R | 0.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7-4 | 1.06 |
| Mantiply | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 16-7 | 3.12 |
| Ginkel (BS, 4) | 1.0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 24-14 | 4.15 |
| Martinez, Ju (W, 1-0) | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 20-12 | 0.71 |
| Totals | 9.0 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 0 |
| Game Info |
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| WP: Montgomery. |
| HBP: Carroll (by Wilson); Gurriel Jr. (by Díaz, A). |
| Pitches-strikes: Ashcraft 94-55; Pagán 17-11; Suter 13-7; Cruz, F 32-16; Wilson 14-10; Sims 1-1; Díaz, A 21-9; Montgomery 101-57; Thompson, R 7-4; Mantiply 16-7; Ginkel 24-14; Martinez, Ju 20-12. |
| Groundouts-flyouts: Ashcraft 5-1; Pagán 0-0; Suter 2-0; Cruz, F 0-1; Wilson 0-0; Sims 1-0; Díaz, A 0-0; Montgomery 5-2; Thompson, R 2-0; Mantiply 0-0; Ginkel 1-1; Martinez, Ju 1-0. |
| Batters faced: Ashcraft 21; Pagán 3; Suter 4; Cruz, F 7; Wilson 4; Sims 1; Díaz, A 5; Montgomery 24; Thompson, R 2; Mantiply 3; Ginkel 6; Martinez, Ju 4. |
| Inherited runners-scored: Sims 2-0; Thompson, R 2-0. |
| Ejections: D-backs designated hitter Joc Pederson ejected by HP umpire Mark Carlson (8th); D-backs manager Torey Lovullo ejected by HP umpire Mark Carlson (8th). |
| Umpires: HP: Mark Carlson. 1B: Stu Scheurwater. 2B: Jordan Baker. 3B: Dan Merzel. |
| Weather: 78 degrees, Roof Closed. |
| Wind: 0 mph, None. |
| First pitch: 6:40 PM. |
| T: 3:18. |
| Att: 18,017. |
| Venue: Chase Field. |
| May 13, 2024 |
| Inning | Scoring Play | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Bottom 2 | Gabriel Moreno homers (1) on a line drive to right center field. | 1-0 AZ |
| Top 3 | Spencer Steer doubles (10) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Pavin Smith. Santiago Espinal scores. Elly De La Cruz scores. | 2-1 CIN |
| Bottom 3 | Joc Pederson homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. | 2-2 |
| Bottom 3 | Pavin Smith out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Stuart Fairchild. Christian Walker scores. Eugenio Suárez to 3rd. | 3-2 AZ |
| Top 6 | Mike Ford singles on a ground ball to left fielder Lourdes Gurriel Jr. Tyler Stephenson scores. Jeimer Candelario to 2nd. | 3-3 |
| Bottom 7 | Eugenio Suárez singles on a line drive to left fielder Spencer Steer. Christian Walker scores. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. to 3rd. | 4-3 AZ |
| Top 8 | Reds challenged (catch or drop), call on the field was overturned: Jeimer Candelario singles on a line drive to center fielder Corbin Carroll. Spencer Steer scores. | 4-4 |
| Top 8 | Mike Ford triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Jake McCarthy. Jeimer Candelario scores. | 5-4 CIN |
| Bottom 9 | Kevin Newman singles on a line drive to right fielder Jake Fraley. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. scores. Gabriel Moreno scores. Jake McCarthy to 2nd. | 6-5 AZ |
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reds | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 7 | |
| D-backs | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 14 |
Decisions
- Winner: Justin Martinez (1-0, 0.71)
- Loser: Alexis Díaz (1-2, 6.75)
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2024.05.14 03:47 CheckUrCrawlspaces Growing up, my mother forbade me from ever talking about my little brother outside the house. 50 years later, they're both dead, and I'm ready to talk
The garage door shut with a groan behind us, closing us in the gloom of the single bulb hanging over the car.
Mother took a drag off her cigarette and sighed as she exhaled, the smoke filled the cabin of the Ford and stung my eyes.
“You really disappointed me today, Julianne," she tapped her cigarette in the ashtray below the dash, "you embarrassed me in front of the other mothers at the Ice Cream Social, shoveling down seconds and thirds like a pig. I thought I raised you better than that.”
She took another drag, daintily holding the cigarette between her perfectly manicured fingers.
“I'm going to have to tell your brother about this," she continued, “he'll have to come up with a punishment fit for a pig."
I felt my stomach drop. My kid brother, Thomas, was only six, but could be exceptionally cruel. Mother seemed to encourage him and was deferring to him more and more frequently for how the house was run, especially concerning my upbringing.
"Mother, please, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass you. I'm sorry I was a pig and ate so much ice cream. I promise I won't do it again, I'll never eat any ice cream again," I was pleading with stone, unyielding.
“Hush your mouth. Go to your room and wait for Thomas," she put out the cigarette and got out of the car, I had no choice but to follow.
It felt like walking to the gallows as I stepped inside the house and headed towards the stairs to go to my room. Thomas had grown fond recently of physical punishment, he obviously delighted in Mother whipping me with a belt or, recently, Mother had allowed him to start beating me with a wooden spoon. He would squeal and giggle like a normal child watching bubbles in the wind while I screamed. I was dreading whatever was going to happen tonight, I chastised myself for eating that ice cream, I should have known she would show up. My sins were always laid bare.
Down the hall, I could hear Thomas watching television in the den. I only got to watch TV for half an hour on Saturday morning and new episodes of Happy Days with Mother and Thomas. Thomas got to watch all the TV he wanted. He could listen to the radio and turntable as much as he wanted, as loud as he wanted. Thomas had an entire room just for his toys.
I entered my bedroom, it was a space I occupied, but it didn't feel like mine. Mother kept it spartan, white walls and white bedspread. A crucifix over the bed and a painting of Jesus over the door. I had my desk and chair and a dresser with some of the porcelain dolls Daddy gave me before he died that Mother let me keep. That was it.
I placed my book bag down and sat on my bed, waiting for Thomas. It was a while, sitting there with nothing but my own thoughts and staring at the open door. I felt humiliated, I was almost thirteen and my entire life was dictated by my brother. Mother kept the house in constant lockdown to keep Thomas a secret. No outsiders were allowed in. I couldn't have friends because she was afraid I would mention him or sneak a friend in to gawk at my brother and tease him for being different.
I would never make fun of him, I was terrified of him. Terrified of what he was and what he was becoming.
Eventually I heard his heavy footsteps coming up the stairs and I felt my heart start beating faster and my palms began to sweat. I kneaded my skirt in my hands, trying to calm myself and dry my palms. His slow arrhythmic footsteps came down the hall and I watched him as he entered the room.
I couldn't help but internally recoil at his appearance, even though I'd known him since he was born, I could never adjust to how unnatural he appeared. Thomas had been born at home and had never seen a doctor, but he was obviously unwell.
He was six years old and was barely over two feet tall, but very squat and wide. His skin was thick and gray, the whites of his beady eyes were yellow and his hair was wispy and white like an old man's, spreading out like a halo around his gargoyle face. A slight odor of decomposition hung about him, it reminded me faintly of garbage cans on a hot summer day. I hated when Mother made me help him with a bath, his skin felt like old brittle leather that flaked onto my clothes in gray flecks. His body was dense like concrete, I could barely lift him into the tub. Picking him up forced his hair into my face where that smell of rot would fill my nose, causing me to gag, silently, so as not to offend him and draw any ire from him or Mother.
Today, Thomas was wearing bib overalls with a red and green striped sweater underneath, reminding me of a grotesque doll.
“Mama says you acted like a piggy today at the ice cream social,” he spoke up to me in his unsettlingly high pitched, yet raspy voice, like a child that smoked as much as Mother, "you need to come down for dinner right now for your punishment for embarrassing Mama."
He turned and walked back down the stairs and I had no choice but to follow his toddling form downstairs to the dining table. We entered the kitchen and the table was placed with two settings. Mother was already seated and Thomas clambered up into his booster seat at his normal spot next to Mother. She took a drag off her cigarette and motioned vaguely to the floor without even looking at me.
Neatly situated on the linoleum was my dinner, not on a plate, but directly on the floor. A pork chop, scoop of mashed potatoes, and a small pile of peas. No utensils, either.
Thomas giggled with glee upon seeing my face.
“You have Mama's permission now to eat like a piggy, now. No hands! Piggies just use their face!” He stood up in his chair and reached out for Mother’s ash tray and flung it out over my meal, peppering my dinner with cigarette ash and butts.
"Oops! Piggies don't mind trash though, do they, Mama?” he giggled and the sound filled me with rage.
"No, they don't,” Mother replied coolly while maneuvering her ashtray back in place and carefully putting out her cigarette before saying prayer.
As angry as I was, I got down on my hands and knees and did my best at eating what I could without using my hands. I knew if I refused, it would be far worse. The whole meal, Thomas made pig noises and would reach down and poke me with his fork, making comments about what a fat piggy I was and how he wished he could roast and eat me. I doubted Mother would even object if he actually did kill me and eat me.
Gagging my way through another bite of ashy pork chop, I felt a warm splat over my head and heard Thomas giggling. I reached up and felt he had dumped mashed potatoes into my hair.
Choking down tears, I asked Mother if I could clean the floor and bathe. She rolled her eyes and excused me to clear the table for them as well while she changed Thomas into his pajamas. Picking him up, she walked out of the room and Thomas stuck his putrid little purple tongue out at me before they made it out the kitchen door.
I silently cried while I cleared the table and washed the dinner dishes. Tears splashed down as I mopped up the mess from my food on the floor. I hated how awful Thomas was. I hated how they treated me. Ever since Daddy died and Thomas showed up, I was their punching bag. I missed Daddy so much.
Mother was kinder then, too. She was still severe, but Dad kept her tempered. After he died, there was a change that came over her. I was only six, so I didn't remember her too much from before, but I did remember her gushing on and on when she was pregnant with Thomas. How the baby was a gift from Our Heavenly Father, that it was going to complete our broken family.
My sixth birthday happened right after Daddy died and I remember sitting on the patio crying while the house was full of people after the funeral, normally he would have gotten me a new doll and a chocolate bar, instead I was forgotten. No doll. No chocolate. Just funeral potatoes and a house full of cigarette smoke from the adults.
Nobody remembered. The closest thing I got was my dad's sister, Aunt Judy, sitting next to me on the patio step for a few minutes of comfortable silence before giving my shoulder a reassuring squeeze. I don't think she knew her brother was memorialized on my birthday. Next year, Thomas was born the day before my birthday, so it was completely eclipsed as Mother had just birthed her new love into the world…
I stopped mid mop as a lightbulb finally went off. I had never put much thought into the dates before.
Thomas was born a full year after Daddy died. He couldn't be his dad. Who was Thomas’ actual father?
Washing mashed potatoes out of my hair that evening, I ran over and over the timeline. No matter how I parsed it out, Thomas was only my half brother. Going to bed that night, I kept myself awake, going over and over again to make sure. I couldn't remember any men being around at that time, but that didn't mean much. Adults can easily hide things from children. Tension began throbbing through my head and I felt queasy. Mother had always known all of my secrets, able to sniff them out like a bloodhound out or using Thomas to spy. Now I had one of Mother's secrets and I didn't know what to do with it.
First I wanted to confirm it, but it would mean snooping, which was difficult in a house that was rarely left empty. I would have to try finding Mother's calendar book or journal to see if she mentioned any dates or men.
But when could I attempt such a daring maneuver? Thomas hardly left the house. As proud as Mother was of him, she was very cognizant and protective of his differences and didn't want to draw attention to herself or Thomas like that. Mother herself had few social engagements throughout the week and mostly stayed home to watch her golden child.
I finally decided I would take the risk and fake sick on Tuesday, grocery day, so I could stay home from school while she went shopping. All Thomas did all day was watch TV downstairs, so that should give me about an hour to look through her room for clues. I decided to tuck my head down, try to behave as best as I could to avoid their wrath, and wait for Tuesday.
That weekend limped along agonizingly slow. Thomas was in a fine mood and was constantly seeking out a reason to poke me, punch me, slap me… he'd laugh while calling me a piggy with his off-putting wide mouth. I tried to mostly stay in my room and it seemed like neither of them cared.
School on Monday was a relief, but my anxiety ramped up. The consequences would be dire if Mother caught on that I was faking sick to stay home. I didn't even want to imagine how off the leash she'd let my half-brother become in his punishment for that level of insubordination.
I stayed up all night, my stomach was in knots, but I was committed to my plan. Throughout the night, I screamed as hard as I could into my pillow. Screamed until my throat was raw and I could barely talk. It felt cathartic in a way. When it was close to school time, I put on my heaviest flannel pajamas and began doing jumping jacks until my face was flushed and my scalp was soaked with sweat.
Looking in the bathroom mirror before heading down to talk to Mother, I thought I looked pretty convincing, my skin was flushed and sweaty, my eyes had circles under them from lack of sleep, and my voice croaked like a frog.
Heading downstairs, Mother was already feeding Thomas breakfast. I hesitantly stepped into the kitchen and stood there awkwardly for a second, pawing with my pajamas to keep my nerves steady until she noticed my presence and looked up.
“Why aren't you dressed, Julianne?"
"I don't feel well. My throat hurts and my tummy hurts.” My voice graveled out more than I was expecting, I really had hurt my throat.
She strode over to me and placed a cool hand on my sweaty brow.
"You do feel warm. Take an aspirin from the medicine cabinet and go lay back down. I'll check on you later," with that she turned back and walked over to Thomas, who was frozen in place, glaring at me over a forkful of scrambled eggs. The sharp glint of malice in his beady eyes made me shiver before I shuffled out of the kitchen.
I laid in bed, trying my best to look miserable until I eventually heard the faint sound of the television playing in the den as Thomas settled in for his normal daytime routine and the garage door opened as Mother headed to the grocery store. I bounded out of bed and watched the car back out of our driveway and head up the street.
My heart began to pound as I tiptoed down the hall to Mother's bedroom, a place I rarely even caught a glimpse of, let alone entered. I very slowly opened the door, taking great care to not make any noise to alert Thomas downstairs that I was out of bed.
Creeping into the butter yellow room, I could feel my heartbeat pounding in my skull, this was the naughtiest thing I had ever done by far. I stepped onto the rug to help disguise my footsteps and slowly made my way past the brass bed and towards her desk. My hands shook as I opened the top drawer, I pawed through rapidly and found nothing. I checked the next drawer down and again found nothing of interest, just stationary and envelopes.
Finally, the bottom drawer was what I was looking for, a stack of journals from the past decade. I flipped through, trying to find entries relevant to when Daddy died and who Mother slept with afterwards.
I've never fully recovered from what I read.
July 6, 1968
Edgar died today. Car accident. I cannot believe this is real. My light, my life, my anchor... Dr. Benson gave me a sedative at the hospital and I feel so tired. So very, very tired. Why has my Lord forsaken me so?
July 9, 1968
I feel like I am in a very bad dream, I feel numb and disconnected. All the consolation and pity from everyone makes me feel sick. After the memorial, it took everything in me to not break dishes and to scream at everyone to get out of my house. Julianne was moping about crying and I wanted to throw her out, too.
If I hadn't seen my dear Edgar's body in the hospital and held his urn in my own hands, I wouldn't believe he was really gone. I still don't entirely believe it.
I have prayed to God every night asking him to show me why he took my husband from me and I have gotten no answer.
I skimmed over the next few months, as it was more or less similar sentiments repeated night after night. I finally got to an entry that caught my eye.
September 17, 1968
My battle with my faith has been fraught the past few months, but Hallelujah! I feel I can see the Lord again in all his glory and might, for he has given me a way to reconnect to my Edgar!
I was thinking about the night Julianne was born, right in this very home, it was a difficult birth and she struggled to breathe at first. Ingrid, my midwife, made a comment to me that if the baby had failed to wake up on her own, that Ingrid had ways to make sure she would have made it.
I remember asking if it was a medical methodology and she made it clear to me that in certain circumstances, it was a mystical property she used to bring the air of life into a struggling baby's lungs. She gently alluded to being a practicing member of the dark arts. At the time, I felt quite scandalized to have someone like that in my God fearing home. Now I see her as the answer to my prayers! My angel!
On a whim, I called her and asked if she still practiced such techniques. She hesitantly confirmed that she did. I asked, if she could turn breath into the lungs of a child without, could she turn breath into a child that did not exist? Could she magick into existence another child of my beloved Edgar? She told me she had to do some research and she'd be back in touch.
Ingrid just called back after a few hours and said there was a spell she found, but it was dangerous and might have unpleasant results. I said, yes, of course! I trust my Lord and I believe he sent this woman of blessed magick to me for this purpose.
She says we will have to do it soon, in a few days during the new moon. She has a potion to brew, but it is happening! Praise God!
September 23, 1968
The ceremony was last night, and Ingrid believes it was a success, but we will have to wait. It did not take long, only an hour or two. Ingrid lit my bedroom with many beeswax candles and she had me drink a thick and bitter tea that caused me to become quite relaxed and foggy.
From my inner thigh, she cut me and collected my blood in a chalice, with which she mixed quite a lot of Edgar's ashes and other ingredients which I could not glean from my supine position and groggy wits. Ingrid began to chant, calling upon a higher power, as I pleaded with my Lord to let this work. To give me any piece of my Edgar back. She came to the bed and worked the paste between my legs into my womanly chamber, which was very uncomfortable, but manageable with the numbing effects of the tea.
She continued to sit with me and chant, her hand placed over my womb, until she decided at which time it was complete. She left and I fell into a deep sleep. When I woke up this morning, I felt quite uncomfortable, my body ached and when I used the restroom, a yellow fluid like pus poured out of me, but no sign of any ashes or blood, which gives me hope it was absorbed into my womb.
November 3, 1968
Praise be to our Lord, Ingrid just confirmed for me that I am with child, I had been hoping so, I had not gotten my cycle in October, but I wasn't sure if that was because of the discharge like pus that was still coming. She told me that was common with this spell and a side effect that would stop after the baby came.
I feel like I am floating on air, for the first time since Edgar left, I feel-
I suddenly became very aware of the feeling of eyes on the back of my head. I had become too engrossed in what was written before me and I had lost track of my surroundings. Very slowly, I turned around and my heart began pounding again as I saw Thomas standing in the doorway holding his wooden spoon in one hand. How had I not heard him?
He pointed at me with his empty hand and screamed, just a pure guttural screech from somewhere deep inside his disgusting little body. He charged at me from across the room, his horrible feet thumping solidly along the rug. He began beating my legs ruthlessly with the spoon, causing my legs to buckle. I crashed down to my knees in front of him, and he began lashing at my face, pulling my hair with one hand while wailing away at my head with the spoon.
I had dropped the journal I was holding and was desperately trying to get a hand on the spoon or push him away. All I could hear was him screaming. My arms flailed and I reached around on Mother's desk and grabbed onto the first thing I found and sank it into Thomas’ neck.
The end of Mother's gold letter opener protruded under his jaw. He went silent and he looked at me with utter shock. He dropped the spoon and collapsed on the ground, clutching at his neck as his thick black blood oozed out from his wound, letting out a stupendous odor of rot that filled the room. He didn't really say anything or make any noise. He just twitched for a moment and I saw his eyes glaze over.
In shock, I stood over his little body for a moment and I watched as he seemed to mummify in just a few minutes, like an ash person from Pompeii dressed in jeans and a flannel shirt. Even his blood that looked like shiny oil a second ago became like potting soil on Mother's rug. Reaching out to touch his hand, it crumbled away like sand.
Panic ran through me like a rabbit caught in a snare. Not knowing what to do, I ran. I ran down the hall, changed my clothes, put an extra change of clothes in my backpack and the last doll Daddy had ever given me and I ran. Mother would absolutely never forgive me and I was genuinely afraid she would kill me in retaliation for taking her beloved Thomas away from her. Her precious gift from God. My feet flew over the pavement and took me away from that house.
I called my Aunt Judy from a payphone outside the five & dime, and told her Mother had kicked me out and asked if I could stay with her. She had always had a strained relationship with my mother and it didn't take much convincing that she had kicked out her “only” child. Only Mother, Ingrid, and I ever knew about Thomas.
She gave me a home and took care of me. She never beat me or humiliated me. Even with her love, I was far from okay. For years I would close my eyes and hear Thomas scream, then the sudden silence. I'd see him fumbling at his neck and turning to ash. But I would also remember all the ways he would hurt me and how bad he was becoming. I could never talk to anyone about it, especially not the silent relief I felt I refused to admit to myself. Over time, however, Thomas' screams became a whisper and his silence faded into dust in my mind.
I moved on with my life. I went to college and became a photojournalist, getting to travel the world and watch history unfold. By choice, I never married, but was quite blessed with many beautiful friendships for companionship over the decades. I found balance in my life and a sense of happiness, if not peace. I never could quite stomach mashed potatoes again, though, they always taste ashy to me.
Mother never made any attempts to reach out to me or find me, at least that I'm aware of. Ten years ago, I was contacted by a hospital and they said my mother had been admitted earlier after falling and was about to pass, so she must have kept some tabs on me to know my phone number for her emergency contacts. Apparently she had collapsed in the driveway and a neighbor called an ambulance. I got there and her only words to me were, “take care of him," as she placed a locket in my hand. I opened the locket, Jesus was on one side, Thomas on the other. I didn't say anything to her, just held her frail old hand with nicotine stained nails until she passed in the night. My mother was gone and I felt nothing except a vague sense of relief.
When I got to her house, it was like a time capsule. Other than a newer television, it was just like it was when I'd fled so many years ago. The smell of tobacco smoke hung like incense in the air. It felt oppressive, like a tomb.
I wandered the house in a bit of a daze. The one place I didn't want to go was upstairs. I didn't want to see my old room, or Thomas' room, or Mother's. Putting it off, I went to fix myself some supper, realizing I hadn't eaten in almost a day. I took a pause when I opened the fridge and saw a baby bottle on a shelf. Silently praying she had been babysitting for a neighbor, I fixed myself some toast with sardines and sat eating in the den watching TV. It had been almost forty years and it still felt rebellious not eating at the table and watching TV without permission.
My eyes grew heavy and I finally mustered up the gumption to head upstairs to go to bed. The stairs creaked in a familiar way under my feet and I was taken back to the feeling of dread hearing either Mother or Thomas climbing up. My old room was at the top of the stairs, I saw the door was nailed shut and had rambling quotes about Judas copied from the Bible in my mother's handwriting taped to the door. I sighed gently and turned from the door to head down the hallway, deciding Mother's room was probably the best place to sleep.
I passed by Thomas’ toy room and I heard a murmur from the room. I stopped, curiosity got the best of me and I entered. In Thomas' old toy room was a crib with joyful clown sheets. Dread swelled up inside me as I heard more murmurs and saw the sheets move. Approaching slowly, I peaked under the sheet and gasped.
Tucked inside was what looked like a baby gargoyle, gray and papery looking. Pus leaked out of its milky, bulbous eyes. I pulled back the blanket and saw it had no legs and its arms bent back, like wings on a bird. It was wearing just a cloth diaper, overflowing with tarry looking stool that took my breath away with its pungency, it smelled like Thomas’ blood, but somehow worse. My heart broke for this poor creature, Lord only knows how many years it has been in this crib suffering from its unholy existence.
So this is who Mother had wanted me to take care of…
Not knowing what else to do, I gently scooped him up. Like Thomas, he was shockingly heavy for how small his body was. Placing him on the changing table, I cleaned him and rewrapped his bottom in a clean diaper cloth. It was difficult, he fussed tremendously, crying and flopping around as much as his flipper-like arms would allow. I tried wiping off his oozing eyes and he snapped his mouth, which I saw was full of disturbingly square yellow teeth, trying to bite me. I carried him to the kitchen and rocked him while I heated up his bottle and he became furious with me, almost barking like a dog when my hand would get near his face.
He settled a bit as he fed, but he would still sometimes suddenly spit out the bottle and attempt to bite me. I laid him back in his crib, this abomination in a clown sheet, and I walked down the hall to Mother's room letting out a long sigh.
Combing through my mother's journals in the early hours of the morning, it looked like she tried the ceremony again shortly after Thomas died, but she either lacked Ingrid’s help or didn't have enough of my father's ashes left. Something went terribly wrong. She was vaguer than she had been about Thomas’ conception, but I suspect she had used some of Thomas' remains. The resulting birth she named Isaac.
Mother's journals told a sad tale of her and Isaac's suffering. She never mentioned me, but lamented the loss of Thomas and Dad relentlessly. She was hyper protective of Isaac, as that was all she had left. If her world had been small before, it became microscopic after he entered her life, requiring nearly constant care. According to Mother, he was blind and colicky, sometimes going years at a time without sleeping through the night. She had breast fed him for years, but she had to stop after he grew teeth and began biting her intentionally and feeding on her blood.
I spent a lot of time over the next few days pondering what to do. I had to get her estate in order, she had left me the house, in an obvious attempt to get me to continue caretaking for Isaac, but I didn't want it. I had my own cozy home an hour away from here, filled with happy memories and my possessions acquired traveling the world. Mother's home had a heavy energy I couldn't shake. Her and Thomas were both gone, but the memories of the scoldings and beatings hung in every corner, like cobwebs that would never sweep away.
So, I fed Isaac and kept him clean and tried to keep him company, although he seemed to hate me passionately. I took care of him, all the while thinking about what I was going to do. After a week, I felt resolute in what had to be done.
Gathering up all of Mother's journals in a tote, I made my way to Isaac and picked him up and carried everything to the living room.
The ancient logs in the fireplace meant for display ignited instantly. One by one, I fed the journals into the fire, burning away years of my mother's consuming sorrow. Isaac fussed and moaned next to me the entire time. When the last pages shimmered away into lacy ash, I took a throw pillow off the couch and gently cradled Isaac in my other arm. It didn't take long before he stopped struggling and I felt his little body relax after decades of suffering.
I gently wrapped up a bundle in a clown sheet and placed it in the fire. It burned furiously, like the paper in my mother's journals, and was soon gone. Nothing but ashes and embers.
“Don't worry, Mother,” I said purely for my own sake, "I took care of Isaac for you."
And finally, I felt at peace.
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Mother took a drag off her cigarette and sighed as she exhaled, the smoke filled the cabin of the Ford and stung my eyes.
“You really disappointed me today, Julianne," she tapped her cigarette in the ashtray below the dash, "you embarrassed me in front of the other mothers at the Ice Cream Social, shoveling down seconds and thirds like a pig. I thought I raised you better than that.”
She took another drag, daintily holding the cigarette between her perfectly manicured fingers.
“I'm going to have to tell your brother about this," she continued, “he'll have to come up with a punishment fit for a pig."
I felt my stomach drop. My kid brother, Thomas, was only six, but could be exceptionally cruel. Mother seemed to encourage him and was deferring to him more and more frequently for how the house was run, especially concerning my upbringing.
"Mother, please, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass you. I'm sorry I was a pig and ate so much ice cream. I promise I won't do it again, I'll never eat any ice cream again," I was pleading with stone, unyielding.
“Hush your mouth. Go to your room and wait for Thomas," she put out the cigarette and got out of the car, I had no choice but to follow.
It felt like walking to the gallows as I stepped inside the house and headed towards the stairs to go to my room. Thomas had grown fond recently of physical punishment, he obviously delighted in Mother whipping me with a belt or, recently, Mother had allowed him to start beating me with a wooden spoon. He would squeal and giggle like a normal child watching bubbles in the wind while I screamed. I was dreading whatever was going to happen tonight, I chastised myself for eating that ice cream, I should have known she would show up. My sins were always laid bare.
Down the hall, I could hear Thomas watching television in the den. I only got to watch TV for half an hour on Saturday morning and new episodes of Happy Days with Mother and Thomas. Thomas got to watch all the TV he wanted. He could listen to the radio and turntable as much as he wanted, as loud as he wanted. Thomas had an entire room just for his toys.
I entered my bedroom, it was a space I occupied, but it didn't feel like mine. Mother kept it spartan, white walls and white bedspread. A crucifix over the bed and a painting of Jesus over the door. I had my desk and chair and a dresser with some of the porcelain dolls Daddy gave me before he died that Mother let me keep. That was it.
I placed my book bag down and sat on my bed, waiting for Thomas. It was a while, sitting there with nothing but my own thoughts and staring at the open door. I felt humiliated, I was almost thirteen and my entire life was dictated by my brother. Mother kept the house in constant lockdown to keep Thomas a secret. No outsiders were allowed in. I couldn't have friends because she was afraid I would mention him or sneak a friend in to gawk at my brother and tease him for being different.
I would never make fun of him, I was terrified of him. Terrified of what he was and what he was becoming.
Eventually I heard his heavy footsteps coming up the stairs and I felt my heart start beating faster and my palms began to sweat. I kneaded my skirt in my hands, trying to calm myself and dry my palms. His slow arrhythmic footsteps came down the hall and I watched him as he entered the room.
I couldn't help but internally recoil at his appearance, even though I'd known him since he was born, I could never adjust to how unnatural he appeared. Thomas had been born at home and had never seen a doctor, but he was obviously unwell.
He was six years old and was barely over two feet tall, but very squat and wide. His skin was thick and gray, the whites of his beady eyes were yellow and his hair was wispy and white like an old man's, spreading out like a halo around his gargoyle face. A slight odor of decomposition hung about him, it reminded me faintly of garbage cans on a hot summer day. I hated when Mother made me help him with a bath, his skin felt like old brittle leather that flaked onto my clothes in gray flecks. His body was dense like concrete, I could barely lift him into the tub. Picking him up forced his hair into my face where that smell of rot would fill my nose, causing me to gag, silently, so as not to offend him and draw any ire from him or Mother.
Today, Thomas was wearing bib overalls with a red and green striped sweater underneath, reminding me of a grotesque doll.
“Mama says you acted like a piggy today at the ice cream social,” he spoke up to me in his unsettlingly high pitched, yet raspy voice, like a child that smoked as much as Mother, "you need to come down for dinner right now for your punishment for embarrassing Mama."
He turned and walked back down the stairs and I had no choice but to follow his toddling form downstairs to the dining table. We entered the kitchen and the table was placed with two settings. Mother was already seated and Thomas clambered up into his booster seat at his normal spot next to Mother. She took a drag off her cigarette and motioned vaguely to the floor without even looking at me.
Neatly situated on the linoleum was my dinner, not on a plate, but directly on the floor. A pork chop, scoop of mashed potatoes, and a small pile of peas. No utensils, either.
Thomas giggled with glee upon seeing my face.
“You have Mama's permission now to eat like a piggy, now. No hands! Piggies just use their face!” He stood up in his chair and reached out for Mother’s ash tray and flung it out over my meal, peppering my dinner with cigarette ash and butts.
"Oops! Piggies don't mind trash though, do they, Mama?” he giggled and the sound filled me with rage.
"No, they don't,” Mother replied coolly while maneuvering her ashtray back in place and carefully putting out her cigarette before saying prayer.
As angry as I was, I got down on my hands and knees and did my best at eating what I could without using my hands. I knew if I refused, it would be far worse. The whole meal, Thomas made pig noises and would reach down and poke me with his fork, making comments about what a fat piggy I was and how he wished he could roast and eat me. I doubted Mother would even object if he actually did kill me and eat me.
Gagging my way through another bite of ashy pork chop, I felt a warm splat over my head and heard Thomas giggling. I reached up and felt he had dumped mashed potatoes into my hair.
Choking down tears, I asked Mother if I could clean the floor and bathe. She rolled her eyes and excused me to clear the table for them as well while she changed Thomas into his pajamas. Picking him up, she walked out of the room and Thomas stuck his putrid little purple tongue out at me before they made it out the kitchen door.
I silently cried while I cleared the table and washed the dinner dishes. Tears splashed down as I mopped up the mess from my food on the floor. I hated how awful Thomas was. I hated how they treated me. Ever since Daddy died and Thomas showed up, I was their punching bag. I missed Daddy so much.
Mother was kinder then, too. She was still severe, but Dad kept her tempered. After he died, there was a change that came over her. I was only six, so I didn't remember her too much from before, but I did remember her gushing on and on when she was pregnant with Thomas. How the baby was a gift from Our Heavenly Father, that it was going to complete our broken family.
My sixth birthday happened right after Daddy died and I remember sitting on the patio crying while the house was full of people after the funeral, normally he would have gotten me a new doll and a chocolate bar, instead I was forgotten. No doll. No chocolate. Just funeral potatoes and a house full of cigarette smoke from the adults.
Nobody remembered. The closest thing I got was my dad's sister, Aunt Judy, sitting next to me on the patio step for a few minutes of comfortable silence before giving my shoulder a reassuring squeeze. I don't think she knew her brother was memorialized on my birthday. Next year, Thomas was born the day before my birthday, so it was completely eclipsed as Mother had just birthed her new love into the world…
I stopped mid mop as a lightbulb finally went off. I had never put much thought into the dates before.
Thomas was born a full year after Daddy died. He couldn't be his dad. Who was Thomas’ actual father?
Washing mashed potatoes out of my hair that evening, I ran over and over the timeline. No matter how I parsed it out, Thomas was only my half brother. Going to bed that night, I kept myself awake, going over and over again to make sure. I couldn't remember any men being around at that time, but that didn't mean much. Adults can easily hide things from children. Tension began throbbing through my head and I felt queasy. Mother had always known all of my secrets, able to sniff them out like a bloodhound out or using Thomas to spy. Now I had one of Mother's secrets and I didn't know what to do with it.
First I wanted to confirm it, but it would mean snooping, which was difficult in a house that was rarely left empty. I would have to try finding Mother's calendar book or journal to see if she mentioned any dates or men.
But when could I attempt such a daring maneuver? Thomas hardly left the house. As proud as Mother was of him, she was very cognizant and protective of his differences and didn't want to draw attention to herself or Thomas like that. Mother herself had few social engagements throughout the week and mostly stayed home to watch her golden child.
I finally decided I would take the risk and fake sick on Tuesday, grocery day, so I could stay home from school while she went shopping. All Thomas did all day was watch TV downstairs, so that should give me about an hour to look through her room for clues. I decided to tuck my head down, try to behave as best as I could to avoid their wrath, and wait for Tuesday.
That weekend limped along agonizingly slow. Thomas was in a fine mood and was constantly seeking out a reason to poke me, punch me, slap me… he'd laugh while calling me a piggy with his off-putting wide mouth. I tried to mostly stay in my room and it seemed like neither of them cared.
School on Monday was a relief, but my anxiety ramped up. The consequences would be dire if Mother caught on that I was faking sick to stay home. I didn't even want to imagine how off the leash she'd let my half-brother become in his punishment for that level of insubordination.
I stayed up all night, my stomach was in knots, but I was committed to my plan. Throughout the night, I screamed as hard as I could into my pillow. Screamed until my throat was raw and I could barely talk. It felt cathartic in a way. When it was close to school time, I put on my heaviest flannel pajamas and began doing jumping jacks until my face was flushed and my scalp was soaked with sweat.
Looking in the bathroom mirror before heading down to talk to Mother, I thought I looked pretty convincing, my skin was flushed and sweaty, my eyes had circles under them from lack of sleep, and my voice croaked like a frog.
Heading downstairs, Mother was already feeding Thomas breakfast. I hesitantly stepped into the kitchen and stood there awkwardly for a second, pawing with my pajamas to keep my nerves steady until she noticed my presence and looked up.
“Why aren't you dressed, Julianne?"
"I don't feel well. My throat hurts and my tummy hurts.” My voice graveled out more than I was expecting, I really had hurt my throat.
She strode over to me and placed a cool hand on my sweaty brow.
"You do feel warm. Take an aspirin from the medicine cabinet and go lay back down. I'll check on you later," with that she turned back and walked over to Thomas, who was frozen in place, glaring at me over a forkful of scrambled eggs. The sharp glint of malice in his beady eyes made me shiver before I shuffled out of the kitchen.
I laid in bed, trying my best to look miserable until I eventually heard the faint sound of the television playing in the den as Thomas settled in for his normal daytime routine and the garage door opened as Mother headed to the grocery store. I bounded out of bed and watched the car back out of our driveway and head up the street.
My heart began to pound as I tiptoed down the hall to Mother's bedroom, a place I rarely even caught a glimpse of, let alone entered. I very slowly opened the door, taking great care to not make any noise to alert Thomas downstairs that I was out of bed.
Creeping into the butter yellow room, I could feel my heartbeat pounding in my skull, this was the naughtiest thing I had ever done by far. I stepped onto the rug to help disguise my footsteps and slowly made my way past the brass bed and towards her desk. My hands shook as I opened the top drawer, I pawed through rapidly and found nothing. I checked the next drawer down and again found nothing of interest, just stationary and envelopes.
Finally, the bottom drawer was what I was looking for, a stack of journals from the past decade. I flipped through, trying to find entries relevant to when Daddy died and who Mother slept with afterwards.
I've never fully recovered from what I read.
July 6, 1968
Edgar died today. Car accident. I cannot believe this is real. My light, my life, my anchor... Dr. Benson gave me a sedative at the hospital and I feel so tired. So very, very tired. Why has my Lord forsaken me so?
July 9, 1968
I feel like I am in a very bad dream, I feel numb and disconnected. All the consolation and pity from everyone makes me feel sick. After the memorial, it took everything in me to not break dishes and to scream at everyone to get out of my house. Julianne was moping about crying and I wanted to throw her out, too.
If I hadn't seen my dear Edgar's body in the hospital and held his urn in my own hands, I wouldn't believe he was really gone. I still don't entirely believe it.
I have prayed to God every night asking him to show me why he took my husband from me and I have gotten no answer.
I skimmed over the next few months, as it was more or less similar sentiments repeated night after night. I finally got to an entry that caught my eye.
September 17, 1968
My battle with my faith has been fraught the past few months, but Hallelujah! I feel I can see the Lord again in all his glory and might, for he has given me a way to reconnect to my Edgar!
I was thinking about the night Julianne was born, right in this very home, it was a difficult birth and she struggled to breathe at first. Ingrid, my midwife, made a comment to me that if the baby had failed to wake up on her own, that Ingrid had ways to make sure she would have made it.
I remember asking if it was a medical methodology and she made it clear to me that in certain circumstances, it was a mystical property she used to bring the air of life into a struggling baby's lungs. She gently alluded to being a practicing member of the dark arts. At the time, I felt quite scandalized to have someone like that in my God fearing home. Now I see her as the answer to my prayers! My angel!
On a whim, I called her and asked if she still practiced such techniques. She hesitantly confirmed that she did. I asked, if she could turn breath into the lungs of a child without, could she turn breath into a child that did not exist? Could she magick into existence another child of my beloved Edgar? She told me she had to do some research and she'd be back in touch.
Ingrid just called back after a few hours and said there was a spell she found, but it was dangerous and might have unpleasant results. I said, yes, of course! I trust my Lord and I believe he sent this woman of blessed magick to me for this purpose.
She says we will have to do it soon, in a few days during the new moon. She has a potion to brew, but it is happening! Praise God!
September 23, 1968
The ceremony was last night, and Ingrid believes it was a success, but we will have to wait. It did not take long, only an hour or two. Ingrid lit my bedroom with many beeswax candles and she had me drink a thick and bitter tea that caused me to become quite relaxed and foggy.
From my inner thigh, she cut me and collected my blood in a chalice, with which she mixed quite a lot of Edgar's ashes and other ingredients which I could not glean from my supine position and groggy wits. Ingrid began to chant, calling upon a higher power, as I pleaded with my Lord to let this work. To give me any piece of my Edgar back. She came to the bed and worked the paste between my legs into my womanly chamber, which was very uncomfortable, but manageable with the numbing effects of the tea.
She continued to sit with me and chant, her hand placed over my womb, until she decided at which time it was complete. She left and I fell into a deep sleep. When I woke up this morning, I felt quite uncomfortable, my body ached and when I used the restroom, a yellow fluid like pus poured out of me, but no sign of any ashes or blood, which gives me hope it was absorbed into my womb.
November 3, 1968
Praise be to our Lord, Ingrid just confirmed for me that I am with child, I had been hoping so, I had not gotten my cycle in October, but I wasn't sure if that was because of the discharge like pus that was still coming. She told me that was common with this spell and a side effect that would stop after the baby came.
I feel like I am floating on air, for the first time since Edgar left, I feel-
I suddenly became very aware of the feeling of eyes on the back of my head. I had become too engrossed in what was written before me and I had lost track of my surroundings. Very slowly, I turned around and my heart began pounding again as I saw Thomas standing in the doorway holding his wooden spoon in one hand. How had I not heard him?
He pointed at me with his empty hand and screamed, just a pure guttural screech from somewhere deep inside his disgusting little body. He charged at me from across the room, his horrible feet thumping solidly along the rug. He began beating my legs ruthlessly with the spoon, causing my legs to buckle. I crashed down to my knees in front of him, and he began lashing at my face, pulling my hair with one hand while wailing away at my head with the spoon.
I had dropped the journal I was holding and was desperately trying to get a hand on the spoon or push him away. All I could hear was him screaming. My arms flailed and I reached around on Mother's desk and grabbed onto the first thing I found and sank it into Thomas’ neck.
The end of Mother's gold letter opener protruded under his jaw. He went silent and he looked at me with utter shock. He dropped the spoon and collapsed on the ground, clutching at his neck as his thick black blood oozed out from his wound, letting out a stupendous odor of rot that filled the room. He didn't really say anything or make any noise. He just twitched for a moment and I saw his eyes glaze over.
In shock, I stood over his little body for a moment and I watched as he seemed to mummify in just a few minutes, like an ash person from Pompeii dressed in jeans and a flannel shirt. Even his blood that looked like shiny oil a second ago became like potting soil on Mother's rug. Reaching out to touch his hand, it crumbled away like sand.
Panic ran through me like a rabbit caught in a snare. Not knowing what to do, I ran. I ran down the hall, changed my clothes, put an extra change of clothes in my backpack and the last doll Daddy had ever given me and I ran. Mother would absolutely never forgive me and I was genuinely afraid she would kill me in retaliation for taking her beloved Thomas away from her. Her precious gift from God. My feet flew over the pavement and took me away from that house.
I called my Aunt Judy from a payphone outside the five & dime, and told her Mother had kicked me out and asked if I could stay with her. She had always had a strained relationship with my mother and it didn't take much convincing that she had kicked out her “only” child. Only Mother, Ingrid, and I ever knew about Thomas.
She gave me a home and took care of me. She never beat me or humiliated me. Even with her love, I was far from okay. For years I would close my eyes and hear Thomas scream, then the sudden silence. I'd see him fumbling at his neck and turning to ash. But I would also remember all the ways he would hurt me and how bad he was becoming. I could never talk to anyone about it, especially not the silent relief I felt I refused to admit to myself. Over time, however, Thomas' screams became a whisper and his silence faded into dust in my mind.
I moved on with my life. I went to college and became a photojournalist, getting to travel the world and watch history unfold. By choice, I never married, but was quite blessed with many beautiful friendships for companionship over the decades. I found balance in my life and a sense of happiness, if not peace. I never could quite stomach mashed potatoes again, though, they always taste ashy to me.
Mother never made any attempts to reach out to me or find me, at least that I'm aware of. Ten years ago, I was contacted by a hospital and they said my mother had been admitted earlier after falling and was about to pass, so she must have kept some tabs on me to know my phone number for her emergency contacts. Apparently she had collapsed in the driveway and a neighbor called an ambulance. I got there and her only words to me were, “take care of him," as she placed a locket in my hand. I opened the locket, Jesus was on one side, Thomas on the other. I didn't say anything to her, just held her frail old hand with nicotine stained nails until she passed in the night. My mother was gone and I felt nothing except a vague sense of relief.
When I got to her house, it was like a time capsule. Other than a newer television, it was just like it was when I'd fled so many years ago. The smell of tobacco smoke hung like incense in the air. It felt oppressive, like a tomb.
I wandered the house in a bit of a daze. The one place I didn't want to go was upstairs. I didn't want to see my old room, or Thomas' room, or Mother's. Putting it off, I went to fix myself some supper, realizing I hadn't eaten in almost a day. I took a pause when I opened the fridge and saw a baby bottle on a shelf. Silently praying she had been babysitting for a neighbor, I fixed myself some toast with sardines and sat eating in the den watching TV. It had been almost forty years and it still felt rebellious not eating at the table and watching TV without permission.
My eyes grew heavy and I finally mustered up the gumption to head upstairs to go to bed. The stairs creaked in a familiar way under my feet and I was taken back to the feeling of dread hearing either Mother or Thomas climbing up. My old room was at the top of the stairs, I saw the door was nailed shut and had rambling quotes about Judas copied from the Bible in my mother's handwriting taped to the door. I sighed gently and turned from the door to head down the hallway, deciding Mother's room was probably the best place to sleep.
I passed by Thomas’ toy room and I heard a murmur from the room. I stopped, curiosity got the best of me and I entered. In Thomas' old toy room was a crib with joyful clown sheets. Dread swelled up inside me as I heard more murmurs and saw the sheets move. Approaching slowly, I peaked under the sheet and gasped.
Tucked inside was what looked like a baby gargoyle, gray and papery looking. Pus leaked out of its milky, bulbous eyes. I pulled back the blanket and saw it had no legs and its arms bent back, like wings on a bird. It was wearing just a cloth diaper, overflowing with tarry looking stool that took my breath away with its pungency, it smelled like Thomas’ blood, but somehow worse. My heart broke for this poor creature, Lord only knows how many years it has been in this crib suffering from its unholy existence.
So this is who Mother had wanted me to take care of…
Not knowing what else to do, I gently scooped him up. Like Thomas, he was shockingly heavy for how small his body was. Placing him on the changing table, I cleaned him and rewrapped his bottom in a clean diaper cloth. It was difficult, he fussed tremendously, crying and flopping around as much as his flipper-like arms would allow. I tried wiping off his oozing eyes and he snapped his mouth, which I saw was full of disturbingly square yellow teeth, trying to bite me. I carried him to the kitchen and rocked him while I heated up his bottle and he became furious with me, almost barking like a dog when my hand would get near his face.
He settled a bit as he fed, but he would still sometimes suddenly spit out the bottle and attempt to bite me. I laid him back in his crib, this abomination in a clown sheet, and I walked down the hall to Mother's room letting out a long sigh.
Combing through my mother's journals in the early hours of the morning, it looked like she tried the ceremony again shortly after Thomas died, but she either lacked Ingrid’s help or didn't have enough of my father's ashes left. Something went terribly wrong. She was vaguer than she had been about Thomas’ conception, but I suspect she had used some of Thomas' remains. The resulting birth she named Isaac.
Mother's journals told a sad tale of her and Isaac's suffering. She never mentioned me, but lamented the loss of Thomas and Dad relentlessly. She was hyper protective of Isaac, as that was all she had left. If her world had been small before, it became microscopic after he entered her life, requiring nearly constant care. According to Mother, he was blind and colicky, sometimes going years at a time without sleeping through the night. She had breast fed him for years, but she had to stop after he grew teeth and began biting her intentionally and feeding on her blood.
I spent a lot of time over the next few days pondering what to do. I had to get her estate in order, she had left me the house, in an obvious attempt to get me to continue caretaking for Isaac, but I didn't want it. I had my own cozy home an hour away from here, filled with happy memories and my possessions acquired traveling the world. Mother's home had a heavy energy I couldn't shake. Her and Thomas were both gone, but the memories of the scoldings and beatings hung in every corner, like cobwebs that would never sweep away.
So, I fed Isaac and kept him clean and tried to keep him company, although he seemed to hate me passionately. I took care of him, all the while thinking about what I was going to do. After a week, I felt resolute in what had to be done.
Gathering up all of Mother's journals in a tote, I made my way to Isaac and picked him up and carried everything to the living room.
The ancient logs in the fireplace meant for display ignited instantly. One by one, I fed the journals into the fire, burning away years of my mother's consuming sorrow. Isaac fussed and moaned next to me the entire time. When the last pages shimmered away into lacy ash, I took a throw pillow off the couch and gently cradled Isaac in my other arm. It didn't take long before he stopped struggling and I felt his little body relax after decades of suffering.
I gently wrapped up a bundle in a clown sheet and placed it in the fire. It burned furiously, like the paper in my mother's journals, and was soon gone. Nothing but ashes and embers.
“Don't worry, Mother,” I said purely for my own sake, "I took care of Isaac for you."
And finally, I felt at peace.
2024.05.14 02:47 elsa78910 34f My SO’s ex 29F sent this long message idk who to believe. Have any women had a similar experience?
His ex sent me this message. Sorry it’s so long! Has anybody else gotten a similar message in the past? How did you react?
Message below: “It’s been over a year of me wondering whether I should just come out and ask you or message you… but being afraid that if I do, and I’m wrong, it’ll be a the biggest mistake of my life. I have begged and begged him to tell me what you are to him, and he denies having anything more than a platonic friendship with you.
I want to preface this message with, I have no ill will towards you, I just want some answers… answers I don’t believe I’m going to get from Jared. I don’t know if he’s mentioned anything about me. So here goes…
November 2022, I sent Jared an email, telling him I loved him, missed him, and though I didn’t require a response back, I wanted him to know how sorry I was for everything that had happened and things had ended. He responded with a lengthy email telling me he still fervently loved me and how he too was sorry for how things had ended. That email lead to the last year and a half of events.
December 2022, I drove down to Roanoke and surprised him at the Carilion garage. He left the hospital as fast as he could that night, and we spent the rest of that evening together, catching up, and he left for Key West two days later. Two weeks later, he came up to DC and we had a late birthday celebration for him at Clyde’s in Georgetown and went to see A Christmas Carol at the Ford Theater. A few weeks later we drove to Jersey to see Matchbox20, by now it was the end of January 2023. Almost every week off, for the last year, he would come up and see me, if even for only two days, or I would drive down to Roanoke and spend the week with him. We spoke about our past, the hurt, and future, he told me numerous times that when he pictured marriage and children, it was only with me, but he needed time. This part is important, and I’ll come back to it later. We celebrated my birthday at a restaurant in Navy Yard, two weeks before you guys left for London. Chris video chatted with that night while we were at the restaurant eating Wagyu, and they discussed the new shipment of sunglasses Chris had gotten for Miggieswear.
The weekend of the Super Bowl, he had come seen me earlier that week, the day after he left I came to Roanoke and left the day of the Super Bowl. He told me his parents were having a viewing party and he had to go home and cook. I’m now assuming he left my Airbnb and came to your place.
That February he planned a trip to London, with Nicole, Ryan and Chris, and what he told me were, Nicole’s “friends.” Nicole happened to post a picture of you guys sitting on the plane and I was shocked, why would Nicole’s friend be sitting between him and Ryan. I sent him a message while you were on that 6 hour flight, telling him that if he had been seeing somebody, then why didn’t he tell me? There was no point in us spending time together if he had moved on. His response to me was “do you even know what you’re looking at? I’m surprised you don’t recognize her, that’s Nicole’s friend. You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions right now and don’t know what you’re talking about.” Something in my gut didn’t believe it but I wanted to trust that, so I did. I put you out of sight, out of mind. When he got back, he told me how he wished I’d been there with him, we both love history and old buildings, it’s a place we would have found magical together. I don’t know who came up with the idea of going to London, but part of me always thinks I’m the one who put it there when I shared the pictures i had taken when I went there the year we had been no contact.
We went to a Kenny Chesney concert in Charlottesville that March when I got back from my family trip to India, and he got back from London. Between work, us both traveling with our families, we were excited to see one another. We were going to go to St Augustine, but because of the weather, we stayed in Roanoke and saw Kenny Chesney in Charlottesville. The original plan had been to spend the night in Charlottesville at a hotel, but we couldn’t get one last minute so we ended up driving back to Roanoke and sneaking into the basement at his parents house and sleeping in his bed at 3am.
A few months later, we went to Richmond, and stayed the weekend, exploring the city, and watched Hamilton at the Altria Theater. A few months after that, we went to Savannah and Atlanta, where he got a flat tire driving into the garage, and spent the rest of the weekend at a yoga retreat. July, he asked me to go to Boston with him and his brother, for 4th or July weekend, but I couldn’t because my siblings were in town. Every single week, he came down and either stayed with me, or made a quick trip to spend time with me…
This past September, I found out he took you to Justin’s wedding, and I broke. I needed more from him. I have known him, been intimate with him, shared my every fear, worry, I have brought him home cooked meals from DC and surprised him at work with dinner, I’ve made him care packages. I’ve made Ryan Easter baskets and sent him birthday presents and encouraged Jared to put him in academic classes, I’ve helped Jared look into private schools for Ryan, and weighed the pros and cons of the options. I had no expectations in return from him other than, at the very least, a mutual respect and HONESTY.
I’ve seen him quite a few times since September and I last saw him in Roanoke at the beginning of March 2024. We sat in front of each other, in his car before he went into work that Monday night, and he told me, again, that when he thinks of marriage and a future, I’m the only one he pictures a marriage and children with. I’m not saying this to hurt you, or to make a point, I’m saying it because i don’t know what to believe anymore.
I became suspicious of his relationship with you, when he mentioned going to Macchu Picchu and hiking through the mountains. As all women have the ability to find out details they might later regret, I did the same thing. Except I didn’t believe he had actually gone to Macchu Picchu. I knew his passport had been long expired since around or before COVID, and I knew he had renewed it before he went to London. But that was when I realized you were the girl in the photo that Nicole posted. When I confronted him about Macchu Picchu, he told me he had been joking and he had also already told me he’d been joking. He had NEVER told me it was a joke, he had actually refused to show me photos when I asked him for pictures from the trip… he had then proceeded to change the topic, which is what had even raised red flags in my head.
My point is, I have asked him point blank so many times whether you two have a relationship. You tell me you still love me, that you picture marriage and a family with me, but this girl is a part of your life, and you took her to a wedding with you, while I was on a trip with my siblings, you took her to London with you, and you continue to tell me she’s just a friend. I asked him again on Tuesday night/Wednesday Morning after he left work, if you two are dating, and he said no. He asked me why I’m so hyper-fixated on somebody who’s just a friend when he has a million other female friends.
In September, he told me he needed a month to clear his head, that he wanted to commit to me, but he was afraid and that he needed to get over the fear and roadblock of our past break up. I gave him grace and understood. So we took a 4 week break. Some time during that time period, he sent me a snap of doves, and said “doves, and swans mate for life.” He sent me Ed Sheeran songs telling me he wants to find his way back to me. “No Strings Attached… you are the one I love”
In November, he messaged me and told me he had a surprise for me and to look for something in the mail. He loves the Count of Monte Carlo, it’s one of his favorite movies, and he told me it was in reference to that. A few weeks later I got a candle, a silver 400 dollar Buddha candle from Thomson Ferrier. I didn’t understand the reference to the Count of Monte Carlo, but it was a beautiful gesture and present… especially because he knew how much little gestures from him mean to me.
Fast forward to January, I got another 350 dollar black skull candle from him, from Thomson Ferrier. At this point I was upset, angry and livid. I called my sister in tears that evening. I had come back to him because he told me he loved me, that he “has a fire that burns so deeply” when he thinks of me. If i had known that wasn’t true, i would have closed the chapter a year and a half ago. I don’t want $700 worth of gifts and candles, I want more. I want marriage, I want children, I want our lives to move forward, I want communication. Out of anger, I packed up the candle, his sweatshirts and clothes that he had left at my place this past year, and mailed them back to his house. I’m sure it’s sitting somewhere in his basement closet/ bedroom… along with his white Huq sweatshirt, a picture of us I had up in my house, and various articles of clothing.
What upsets me is that he didn’t just involve me this year, he involved my family. He sent my mom presents, my parents in return sent him gifts. My sister, parents and cousins messaged him asking him to come around more. There was no point in involving my family, if he was going to involve himself with you. There was no point in involving himself with me, if he was going to involve himself with you. Those leather Indian shoes sitting in his room, my dad bought those for him. That blue sweater, those green pants and that maroon shirt, my parents bought those for him just this last year.
I don’t know what he’s told you about me, but I will say this. I was your age when we started dating. I was 29 years old. He was single, that’s what everyone in our residency program thought. He would tell everyone how Shari left him one day, all of a sudden just got up and left. “I saw the look behind her eyes just change when she looked at me.” He would tell everyone his horrific dating stories. When i started dating him, there was no doubt in my mind he was single… but I was wrong. He wasn’t single, he was dating Devon, one of the nurses from Carilion, and he had been for the past 4 years prior to that. At one point when he moved to Norfolk, she had even moved in with him. Even Shari was visiting him in Norfolk during this time period. I would have never suspected it, nobody in our residency program did. It wasn’t until one day, when he told me his friends were visiting from home, and they were all going to a concert together, that I found out. Her profile picture was of the two of them together, and her Facebook relationship status said “in a relationship.” Out of my own naivety, i believed him when he told me she was crazy and obsessed with him. He told me, to him, they were just friends but she wanted more. Women do a lot of things, but no woman is dumb enough to think she’s your girlfriend when she’s not. When we moved back to our hometowns, Devon was there waiting for him. He disappeared one day for 24 hours, told me that he was helping his dad’s friend who was stranded in NC. A year and a half later, i would find out that was a lie and that he had been at a concert Florida Georgia Line concert with her. She had been visiting his grandmother with him, staying at his parents home. The irony is that a few weeks after he took her, he took me to the same concert in Scranton. Him and his family didn’t bat an eye when a month later, I showed up and was the “new girlfriend.”
Eventually Devon found out about his lies and left him, but again, stupid me thought she was a crazy girl who just wanted so badly to be with him, that she built their relationship up in her head.
Dignity, respect for humans, empathy, are the most important qualities in a human being.
What I don’t wish is for you to be in my spot in 5 years. He will paint you in his colors, make you fall in love with MB20, and take you to Augustana concerts, he’ll tell you that you understand him, and his heart in a way that nobody else does. He’ll bond with you over music, and send you songs that make you feel he’s talking about you. He is so good at making you feel seen, and involving you with his family. He’ll say he had a vision of a girl that looks like you, coming into his life, and here you are, his soul mate. And one day, the same way that Shari, Devon and I got lost in him, the reality of everything will come pouring down on you. Be careful, there are signs between the lines, and the smiles, and good times. Make sure you don’t miss those, whatever you decide.
My relationship with him, started off just like yours. Another girl on the periphery, and teetering the line of inappropriate. Everything you call him out on, will always have an excuse, and you will believe him because he’s the “good guy” who goes above and beyond for people.
I don’t wish for any woman to go through the pain I’ve gone through, the manipulation, the lies and the emotional abuse. I can’t tell you what to do, but I will say, be careful and don’t be blind to the small things that will one day become huge. The novelty will fade, and though Jared isn’t the devil, he has a lot of growing up to do at 40. It was not okay to toy with me and drag me through the mud this year. It wasn’t okay to minimize his relationship with you and lie to me about it. It’s not okay to, to this day claim to see a life with me and not commit to it. I deserve better, and you deserve better.
How men talk about their ex’s and other women is an indication about how they will one day talk about and treat you. That is the worst and best lesson i have learned. I’m 34, years of my life wasted, and he took another year of my life knowing full well, this is how it would end. He’s sat on the phone with me for hours talking about how stupid PA’s are and if you were going to not be a doctor, at least become an NP, who has better bedside knowledge. Why would he say that, because i suppose you’re a PA and it minimizes the significance of even having a relationship with somebody who isn’t as intelligent as he is. The lack of respect will always be there, you just have to look for it.
Dishonesty, and manipulation are a plague, and if that’s who you are at 40, it is who you will always be unless you recognize that something needs to change. Where there is no accountability, there can be no change. I’m not the exception, I’m the same as the two girls before me. He’ll show you text messages where he never responded to me, even though he replies on Snapchat where every thing is erased. I cannot believe i didn’t see the signs. He will make me look crazy and laugh at me, the same way he showed me messages from Jen, and Elisabeth, and Devon, and made them sound crazy to me. I guess that’s his MO. The same way he told me you were nothing to him.
I was going to send you this message, two months ago… i then decided not to because he convinced me he wasn’t dating you… I saw him less than a month ago in Roanoke, i begged him to tell me that he was in a relationship with you. He said he wasn’t, again, he told me he was going to a wedding alone with only Ryan and that he wasn’t taking you. I then begged him to tell me that we were done and that he didn’t love me anymore. His response was idk what’s going to happen a year from now, i know I’ll see you again. His response every time has been when im ready for a relationship, emotionally, do you want me to finally let you know? I don’t care to be with him anymore. I’m so over it but i really think you should know the type of person you’re dealing with.
He has put me through so much hell for a year and a half of my life, stringing me along acting like he’s doing me a favor while he works on his own mental health and claims to still love me when we are together.”
TLDR: my SO’s ex messaged me saying he’s been seeing both of us for the past year and a half. Has anybody experienced this before. She sent me pictures from the past year of them and their text exchanges
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Message below: “It’s been over a year of me wondering whether I should just come out and ask you or message you… but being afraid that if I do, and I’m wrong, it’ll be a the biggest mistake of my life. I have begged and begged him to tell me what you are to him, and he denies having anything more than a platonic friendship with you.
I want to preface this message with, I have no ill will towards you, I just want some answers… answers I don’t believe I’m going to get from Jared. I don’t know if he’s mentioned anything about me. So here goes…
November 2022, I sent Jared an email, telling him I loved him, missed him, and though I didn’t require a response back, I wanted him to know how sorry I was for everything that had happened and things had ended. He responded with a lengthy email telling me he still fervently loved me and how he too was sorry for how things had ended. That email lead to the last year and a half of events.
December 2022, I drove down to Roanoke and surprised him at the Carilion garage. He left the hospital as fast as he could that night, and we spent the rest of that evening together, catching up, and he left for Key West two days later. Two weeks later, he came up to DC and we had a late birthday celebration for him at Clyde’s in Georgetown and went to see A Christmas Carol at the Ford Theater. A few weeks later we drove to Jersey to see Matchbox20, by now it was the end of January 2023. Almost every week off, for the last year, he would come up and see me, if even for only two days, or I would drive down to Roanoke and spend the week with him. We spoke about our past, the hurt, and future, he told me numerous times that when he pictured marriage and children, it was only with me, but he needed time. This part is important, and I’ll come back to it later. We celebrated my birthday at a restaurant in Navy Yard, two weeks before you guys left for London. Chris video chatted with that night while we were at the restaurant eating Wagyu, and they discussed the new shipment of sunglasses Chris had gotten for Miggieswear.
The weekend of the Super Bowl, he had come seen me earlier that week, the day after he left I came to Roanoke and left the day of the Super Bowl. He told me his parents were having a viewing party and he had to go home and cook. I’m now assuming he left my Airbnb and came to your place.
That February he planned a trip to London, with Nicole, Ryan and Chris, and what he told me were, Nicole’s “friends.” Nicole happened to post a picture of you guys sitting on the plane and I was shocked, why would Nicole’s friend be sitting between him and Ryan. I sent him a message while you were on that 6 hour flight, telling him that if he had been seeing somebody, then why didn’t he tell me? There was no point in us spending time together if he had moved on. His response to me was “do you even know what you’re looking at? I’m surprised you don’t recognize her, that’s Nicole’s friend. You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions right now and don’t know what you’re talking about.” Something in my gut didn’t believe it but I wanted to trust that, so I did. I put you out of sight, out of mind. When he got back, he told me how he wished I’d been there with him, we both love history and old buildings, it’s a place we would have found magical together. I don’t know who came up with the idea of going to London, but part of me always thinks I’m the one who put it there when I shared the pictures i had taken when I went there the year we had been no contact.
We went to a Kenny Chesney concert in Charlottesville that March when I got back from my family trip to India, and he got back from London. Between work, us both traveling with our families, we were excited to see one another. We were going to go to St Augustine, but because of the weather, we stayed in Roanoke and saw Kenny Chesney in Charlottesville. The original plan had been to spend the night in Charlottesville at a hotel, but we couldn’t get one last minute so we ended up driving back to Roanoke and sneaking into the basement at his parents house and sleeping in his bed at 3am.
A few months later, we went to Richmond, and stayed the weekend, exploring the city, and watched Hamilton at the Altria Theater. A few months after that, we went to Savannah and Atlanta, where he got a flat tire driving into the garage, and spent the rest of the weekend at a yoga retreat. July, he asked me to go to Boston with him and his brother, for 4th or July weekend, but I couldn’t because my siblings were in town. Every single week, he came down and either stayed with me, or made a quick trip to spend time with me…
This past September, I found out he took you to Justin’s wedding, and I broke. I needed more from him. I have known him, been intimate with him, shared my every fear, worry, I have brought him home cooked meals from DC and surprised him at work with dinner, I’ve made him care packages. I’ve made Ryan Easter baskets and sent him birthday presents and encouraged Jared to put him in academic classes, I’ve helped Jared look into private schools for Ryan, and weighed the pros and cons of the options. I had no expectations in return from him other than, at the very least, a mutual respect and HONESTY.
I’ve seen him quite a few times since September and I last saw him in Roanoke at the beginning of March 2024. We sat in front of each other, in his car before he went into work that Monday night, and he told me, again, that when he thinks of marriage and a future, I’m the only one he pictures a marriage and children with. I’m not saying this to hurt you, or to make a point, I’m saying it because i don’t know what to believe anymore.
I became suspicious of his relationship with you, when he mentioned going to Macchu Picchu and hiking through the mountains. As all women have the ability to find out details they might later regret, I did the same thing. Except I didn’t believe he had actually gone to Macchu Picchu. I knew his passport had been long expired since around or before COVID, and I knew he had renewed it before he went to London. But that was when I realized you were the girl in the photo that Nicole posted. When I confronted him about Macchu Picchu, he told me he had been joking and he had also already told me he’d been joking. He had NEVER told me it was a joke, he had actually refused to show me photos when I asked him for pictures from the trip… he had then proceeded to change the topic, which is what had even raised red flags in my head.
My point is, I have asked him point blank so many times whether you two have a relationship. You tell me you still love me, that you picture marriage and a family with me, but this girl is a part of your life, and you took her to a wedding with you, while I was on a trip with my siblings, you took her to London with you, and you continue to tell me she’s just a friend. I asked him again on Tuesday night/Wednesday Morning after he left work, if you two are dating, and he said no. He asked me why I’m so hyper-fixated on somebody who’s just a friend when he has a million other female friends.
In September, he told me he needed a month to clear his head, that he wanted to commit to me, but he was afraid and that he needed to get over the fear and roadblock of our past break up. I gave him grace and understood. So we took a 4 week break. Some time during that time period, he sent me a snap of doves, and said “doves, and swans mate for life.” He sent me Ed Sheeran songs telling me he wants to find his way back to me. “No Strings Attached… you are the one I love”
In November, he messaged me and told me he had a surprise for me and to look for something in the mail. He loves the Count of Monte Carlo, it’s one of his favorite movies, and he told me it was in reference to that. A few weeks later I got a candle, a silver 400 dollar Buddha candle from Thomson Ferrier. I didn’t understand the reference to the Count of Monte Carlo, but it was a beautiful gesture and present… especially because he knew how much little gestures from him mean to me.
Fast forward to January, I got another 350 dollar black skull candle from him, from Thomson Ferrier. At this point I was upset, angry and livid. I called my sister in tears that evening. I had come back to him because he told me he loved me, that he “has a fire that burns so deeply” when he thinks of me. If i had known that wasn’t true, i would have closed the chapter a year and a half ago. I don’t want $700 worth of gifts and candles, I want more. I want marriage, I want children, I want our lives to move forward, I want communication. Out of anger, I packed up the candle, his sweatshirts and clothes that he had left at my place this past year, and mailed them back to his house. I’m sure it’s sitting somewhere in his basement closet/ bedroom… along with his white Huq sweatshirt, a picture of us I had up in my house, and various articles of clothing.
What upsets me is that he didn’t just involve me this year, he involved my family. He sent my mom presents, my parents in return sent him gifts. My sister, parents and cousins messaged him asking him to come around more. There was no point in involving my family, if he was going to involve himself with you. There was no point in involving himself with me, if he was going to involve himself with you. Those leather Indian shoes sitting in his room, my dad bought those for him. That blue sweater, those green pants and that maroon shirt, my parents bought those for him just this last year.
I don’t know what he’s told you about me, but I will say this. I was your age when we started dating. I was 29 years old. He was single, that’s what everyone in our residency program thought. He would tell everyone how Shari left him one day, all of a sudden just got up and left. “I saw the look behind her eyes just change when she looked at me.” He would tell everyone his horrific dating stories. When i started dating him, there was no doubt in my mind he was single… but I was wrong. He wasn’t single, he was dating Devon, one of the nurses from Carilion, and he had been for the past 4 years prior to that. At one point when he moved to Norfolk, she had even moved in with him. Even Shari was visiting him in Norfolk during this time period. I would have never suspected it, nobody in our residency program did. It wasn’t until one day, when he told me his friends were visiting from home, and they were all going to a concert together, that I found out. Her profile picture was of the two of them together, and her Facebook relationship status said “in a relationship.” Out of my own naivety, i believed him when he told me she was crazy and obsessed with him. He told me, to him, they were just friends but she wanted more. Women do a lot of things, but no woman is dumb enough to think she’s your girlfriend when she’s not. When we moved back to our hometowns, Devon was there waiting for him. He disappeared one day for 24 hours, told me that he was helping his dad’s friend who was stranded in NC. A year and a half later, i would find out that was a lie and that he had been at a concert Florida Georgia Line concert with her. She had been visiting his grandmother with him, staying at his parents home. The irony is that a few weeks after he took her, he took me to the same concert in Scranton. Him and his family didn’t bat an eye when a month later, I showed up and was the “new girlfriend.”
Eventually Devon found out about his lies and left him, but again, stupid me thought she was a crazy girl who just wanted so badly to be with him, that she built their relationship up in her head.
Dignity, respect for humans, empathy, are the most important qualities in a human being.
What I don’t wish is for you to be in my spot in 5 years. He will paint you in his colors, make you fall in love with MB20, and take you to Augustana concerts, he’ll tell you that you understand him, and his heart in a way that nobody else does. He’ll bond with you over music, and send you songs that make you feel he’s talking about you. He is so good at making you feel seen, and involving you with his family. He’ll say he had a vision of a girl that looks like you, coming into his life, and here you are, his soul mate. And one day, the same way that Shari, Devon and I got lost in him, the reality of everything will come pouring down on you. Be careful, there are signs between the lines, and the smiles, and good times. Make sure you don’t miss those, whatever you decide.
My relationship with him, started off just like yours. Another girl on the periphery, and teetering the line of inappropriate. Everything you call him out on, will always have an excuse, and you will believe him because he’s the “good guy” who goes above and beyond for people.
I don’t wish for any woman to go through the pain I’ve gone through, the manipulation, the lies and the emotional abuse. I can’t tell you what to do, but I will say, be careful and don’t be blind to the small things that will one day become huge. The novelty will fade, and though Jared isn’t the devil, he has a lot of growing up to do at 40. It was not okay to toy with me and drag me through the mud this year. It wasn’t okay to minimize his relationship with you and lie to me about it. It’s not okay to, to this day claim to see a life with me and not commit to it. I deserve better, and you deserve better.
How men talk about their ex’s and other women is an indication about how they will one day talk about and treat you. That is the worst and best lesson i have learned. I’m 34, years of my life wasted, and he took another year of my life knowing full well, this is how it would end. He’s sat on the phone with me for hours talking about how stupid PA’s are and if you were going to not be a doctor, at least become an NP, who has better bedside knowledge. Why would he say that, because i suppose you’re a PA and it minimizes the significance of even having a relationship with somebody who isn’t as intelligent as he is. The lack of respect will always be there, you just have to look for it.
Dishonesty, and manipulation are a plague, and if that’s who you are at 40, it is who you will always be unless you recognize that something needs to change. Where there is no accountability, there can be no change. I’m not the exception, I’m the same as the two girls before me. He’ll show you text messages where he never responded to me, even though he replies on Snapchat where every thing is erased. I cannot believe i didn’t see the signs. He will make me look crazy and laugh at me, the same way he showed me messages from Jen, and Elisabeth, and Devon, and made them sound crazy to me. I guess that’s his MO. The same way he told me you were nothing to him.
I was going to send you this message, two months ago… i then decided not to because he convinced me he wasn’t dating you… I saw him less than a month ago in Roanoke, i begged him to tell me that he was in a relationship with you. He said he wasn’t, again, he told me he was going to a wedding alone with only Ryan and that he wasn’t taking you. I then begged him to tell me that we were done and that he didn’t love me anymore. His response was idk what’s going to happen a year from now, i know I’ll see you again. His response every time has been when im ready for a relationship, emotionally, do you want me to finally let you know? I don’t care to be with him anymore. I’m so over it but i really think you should know the type of person you’re dealing with.
He has put me through so much hell for a year and a half of my life, stringing me along acting like he’s doing me a favor while he works on his own mental health and claims to still love me when we are together.”
TLDR: my SO’s ex messaged me saying he’s been seeing both of us for the past year and a half. Has anybody experienced this before. She sent me pictures from the past year of them and their text exchanges
2024.05.14 02:40 BaseballBot Game Thread 5/13 ⚾ Reds (17-23) @ D-backs (19-22) 9:40 PM ET
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Reds (17-23) @ D-backs (19-22)
First Pitch: 9:40 PM at Chase Field| Team | Starter | TV | Radio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reds | Graham Ashcraft (3-2, 3.86 ERA) | BSOH | WLW |
| D-backs | Jordan Montgomery (2-2, 4.70 ERA) | ARID | 98.7 FM , KQMR (ES) |
| MLB | Fangraphs | Reddit Stream | IRC Chat |
|---|---|---|---|
| Gameday | Game Graph | Live Comments | Libera: ##baseball |
Line Score - Game Over
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CIN | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 7 |
| AZ | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 14 |
Box Score
| AZ | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CF | Carroll | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .197 |
| 2B | Marte, K | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .290 |
| DH | Pederson | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | .298 |
| 1B | Walker, C | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .265 |
| LF | Gurriel Jr. | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .235 |
| 3B | Suárez, E | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | .224 |
| C | Moreno | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | .248 |
| RF | Smith, P | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .233 |
| RF | Grichuk | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .271 |
| RF | McCarthy | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .293 |
| SS | Newman | 5 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | .253 |
| AZ | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Montgomery | 5.1 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 101-57 | 4.76 |
| Thompson, R | 0.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7-4 | 1.06 |
| Mantiply | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 16-7 | 3.12 |
| Ginkel | 1.0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 24-14 | 4.15 |
| Martinez, Ju | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 20-12 | 0.71 |
| CIN | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2B | India | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .233 |
| SS | De La Cruz, E | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .262 |
| LF | Steer | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | .248 |
| C | Stephenson, T | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .215 |
| 1B | Candelario | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .220 |
| DH | Ford, M | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | .211 |
| DH | Hurtubise | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 |
| CF | Fairchild | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .189 |
| RF | Fraley | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .305 |
| 3B | Espinal | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .189 |
| CF | Benson | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .191 |
| CIN | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ashcraft | 4.0 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 94-55 | 4.12 |
| Pagán | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 17-11 | 4.67 |
| Suter | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13-7 | 4.01 |
| Cruz, F | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 32-16 | 4.24 |
| Wilson | 0.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 14-10 | 6.10 |
| Sims | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1-1 | 5.84 |
| Díaz, A | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 21-9 | 6.75 |
Scoring Plays
Highlights
Decisions
| Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
|---|---|---|
| Martinez, Ju (1-0, 0.71 ERA) | Díaz, A (1-2, 6.75 ERA) |
| Attendance | Weather | Wind |
|---|---|---|
| 78°F, Roof Closed | 0 mph, None |
| HP | 1B | 2B | 3B |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mark Carlson | Stu Scheurwater | Jordan Baker | Dan Merzel |
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2024.05.14 01:30 RedsModerator Game Thread: Reds @ D-backs - Mon, May 13 @ 09:40 PM EDT
Reds @ D-backs - Mon, May 13
Game Status: Game Over - Score: 6-5 D-backs
Links & Info
- Current conditions at Chase Field: 78°F - Roof Closed - Wind 0 mph, None
- TV: Reds: Bally Sports Ohio, D-backs: Arizona Diamondbacks
- Radio: Reds: WLW 700, D-backs: KQMR Latino Mix 100.3 FM (es), 98.7 FM Arizona's Sports Station
- MLB Gameday
- Game Graphs
- Savant Gamefeed
| Reds Batters | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | K | LOB | AVG | OBP | SLG | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | India - 2B | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | .233 | .340 | .316 |
| 2 | De La Cruz, E - SS | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | .262 | .367 | .510 |
| 3 | Steer - LF | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 2 | .248 | .364 | .414 |
| 4 | Stephenson, T - C | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .215 | .308 | .398 |
| 5 | Candelario - 1B | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .220 | .291 | .394 |
| 6 | Ford, M - DH | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | .211 | .250 | .474 |
| 1-Hurtubise - DH | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | |
| 7 | Fairchild - CF | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .189 | .277 | .284 |
| a-Fraley - RF | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .305 | .374 | .390 | |
| 8 | Espinal - 3B | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | .189 | .245 | .244 |
| 9 | Benson - CF | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 1 | .191 | .284 | .374 |
| Totals | 34 | 5 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 19 |
| Reds |
|---|
| a-Grounded into a forceout for Fairchild in the 6th. 1-Ran for Ford, M in the 8th. |
| BATTING: 2B: Steer (10, Montgomery); Stephenson, T (5, Montgomery). 3B: Ford, M (1, Ginkel). TB: Candelario 2; De La Cruz, E; Espinal; Ford, M 4; India 2; Steer 2; Stephenson, T 2. RBI: Candelario (16); Ford, M 2 (3); Steer 2 (29). 2-out RBI: Steer 2. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Espinal 3; Stephenson, T; Candelario. GIDP: Espinal; India. Team RISP: 4-for-12. Team LOB: 7. |
| FIELDING: DP: (Stephenson, T-De La Cruz, E). |
| D-backs Batters | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | K | LOB | AVG | OBP | SLG | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Carroll - CF | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | .197 | .291 | .261 |
| 2 | Marte, K - 2B | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | .290 | .339 | .533 |
| 3 | Pederson - DH | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 2 | .298 | .414 | .543 |
| 4 | Walker, C - 1B | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | .265 | .377 | .437 |
| 5 | Gurriel Jr. - LF | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | .235 | .283 | .377 |
| 6 | Suárez, E - 3B | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | .224 | .297 | .342 |
| 7 | Moreno - C | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | .248 | .350 | .356 |
| 8 | Smith, P - RF | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .233 | .273 | .400 |
| a-Grichuk - RF | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .271 | .308 | .407 | |
| McCarthy - RF | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .293 | .372 | .402 | |
| 9 | Newman - SS | 5 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .253 | .280 | .430 |
| Totals | 34 | 6 | 11 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 23 |
| D-backs |
|---|
| a-Popped out for Smith, P in the 6th. |
| BATTING: 2B: Newman 2 (6, Ashcraft, Suter). HR: Moreno (1, 2nd inning off Ashcraft, 0 on, 1 out); Pederson (5, 3rd inning off Ashcraft, 0 on, 0 out). TB: Marte, K; Moreno 4; Newman 6; Pederson 5; Smith, P; Suárez, E; Walker, C. RBI: Moreno (16); Newman 2 (10); Pederson (9); Smith, P (9); Suárez, E (23). 2-out RBI: Suárez, E. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Gurriel Jr.; Walker, C; Grichuk 2; Marte, K 2; Carroll; Newman. SF: Smith, P. Team RISP: 2-for-12. Team LOB: 14. |
| FIELDING: E: Newman (2, fielding). Outfield assists: Gurriel Jr. (De La Cruz, E at 2nd base). DP: 2 (Suárez, E-Marte, K-Walker, C; Newman-Marte, K-Walker, C). |
| Reds Pitchers | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | HR | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ashcraft | 4.0 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 94-55 | 4.12 |
| Pagán | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 17-11 | 4.67 |
| Suter | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13-7 | 4.01 |
| Cruz, F | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 32-16 | 4.24 |
| Wilson (H, 4) | 0.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 14-10 | 6.10 |
| Sims (H, 7) | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1-1 | 5.84 |
| Díaz, A (L, 1-2)(BS, 2) | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 21-9 | 6.75 |
| Totals | 8.1 | 11 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 2 |
| D-backs Pitchers | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | HR | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Montgomery | 5.1 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 101-57 | 4.76 |
| Thompson, R | 0.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7-4 | 1.06 |
| Mantiply | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 16-7 | 3.12 |
| Ginkel (BS, 4) | 1.0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 24-14 | 4.15 |
| Martinez, Ju (W, 1-0) | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 20-12 | 0.71 |
| Totals | 9.0 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 11 | 0 |
| Game Info |
|---|
| WP: Montgomery. |
| HBP: Carroll (by Wilson); Gurriel Jr. (by Díaz, A). |
| Pitches-strikes: Ashcraft 94-55; Pagán 17-11; Suter 13-7; Cruz, F 32-16; Wilson 14-10; Sims 1-1; Díaz, A 21-9; Montgomery 101-57; Thompson, R 7-4; Mantiply 16-7; Ginkel 24-14; Martinez, Ju 20-12. |
| Groundouts-flyouts: Ashcraft 5-1; Pagán 0-0; Suter 2-0; Cruz, F 0-1; Wilson 0-0; Sims 1-0; Díaz, A 0-0; Montgomery 5-2; Thompson, R 2-0; Mantiply 0-0; Ginkel 1-1; Martinez, Ju 1-0. |
| Batters faced: Ashcraft 21; Pagán 3; Suter 4; Cruz, F 7; Wilson 4; Sims 1; Díaz, A 5; Montgomery 24; Thompson, R 2; Mantiply 3; Ginkel 6; Martinez, Ju 4. |
| Inherited runners-scored: Sims 2-0; Thompson, R 2-0. |
| Ejections: D-backs designated hitter Joc Pederson ejected by HP umpire Mark Carlson (8th); D-backs manager Torey Lovullo ejected by HP umpire Mark Carlson (8th). |
| Umpires: HP: Mark Carlson. 1B: Stu Scheurwater. 2B: Jordan Baker. 3B: Dan Merzel. |
| Weather: 78 degrees, Roof Closed. |
| Wind: 0 mph, None. |
| First pitch: 6:40 PM. |
| T: 3:18. |
| Att: 18,017. |
| Venue: Chase Field. |
| May 13, 2024 |
| Inning | Scoring Play | Score |
|---|---|---|
| Bottom 2 | Gabriel Moreno homers (1) on a line drive to right center field. | 1-0 AZ |
| Top 3 | Spencer Steer doubles (10) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Pavin Smith. Santiago Espinal scores. Elly De La Cruz scores. | 2-1 CIN |
| Bottom 3 | Joc Pederson homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. | 2-2 |
| Bottom 3 | Pavin Smith out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Stuart Fairchild. Christian Walker scores. Eugenio Suárez to 3rd. | 3-2 AZ |
| Top 6 | Mike Ford singles on a ground ball to left fielder Lourdes Gurriel Jr. Tyler Stephenson scores. Jeimer Candelario to 2nd. | 3-3 |
| Bottom 7 | Eugenio Suárez singles on a line drive to left fielder Spencer Steer. Christian Walker scores. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. to 3rd. | 4-3 AZ |
| Top 8 | Reds challenged (catch or drop), call on the field was overturned: Jeimer Candelario singles on a line drive to center fielder Corbin Carroll. Spencer Steer scores. | 4-4 |
| Top 8 | Mike Ford triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Jake McCarthy. Jeimer Candelario scores. | 5-4 CIN |
| Bottom 9 | Kevin Newman singles on a line drive to right fielder Jake Fraley. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. scores. Gabriel Moreno scores. Jake McCarthy to 2nd. | 6-5 AZ |
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reds | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 7 | |
| D-backs | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 14 |
Decisions
- Winner: Justin Martinez (1-0, 0.71)
- Loser: Alexis Díaz (1-2, 6.75)
Division Scoreboard
CHC 0 @ ATL 2 - FinalPIT 8 @ MIL 6 - Final
STL 10 @ LAA 5 - Final
Last Updated: 05/14/2024 12:59:29 AM EDT
2024.05.14 00:41 SnakeBot GAME THREAD: Reds (17-23) @ D-backs (19-22) - 6:40 PM
Reds (17-23) @ D-backs (19-22)
First Pitch: 6:40 PM at Chase Field| Team | Starter | TV | Radio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reds | Graham Ashcraft (3-2, 3.86 ERA) | BSOH | WLW |
| D-backs | Jordan Montgomery (2-2, 4.70 ERA) | ARID | 98.7 FM , KQMR (ES) |
| MLB | Fangraphs | Baseball Savant | Reddit Stream | IRC Chat |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gameday | Game Graph | Strikezone Map | Live Comments | Libera: ##baseball |
Line Score - Game Over
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CIN | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 10 | 0 | 7 |
| AZ | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 14 |
Box Score
| AZ | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CF | Carroll | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .197 |
| 2B | Marte, K | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .290 |
| DH | Pederson | 5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 3 | .298 |
| 1B | Walker, C | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .265 |
| LF | Gurriel Jr. | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .235 |
| 3B | Suárez, E | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | .224 |
| C | Moreno | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | .248 |
| RF | Smith, P | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .233 |
| RF | Grichuk | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .271 |
| RF | McCarthy | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .293 |
| SS | Newman | 5 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | .253 |
| AZ | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Montgomery | 5.1 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 101-57 | 4.76 |
| Thompson, R | 0.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7-4 | 1.06 |
| Mantiply | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 16-7 | 3.12 |
| Ginkel | 1.0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 24-14 | 4.15 |
| Martinez, Ju | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 20-12 | 0.71 |
| CIN | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2B | India | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .233 |
| SS | De La Cruz, E | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .262 |
| LF | Steer | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | .248 |
| C | Stephenson, T | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .215 |
| 1B | Candelario | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .220 |
| DH | Ford, M | 4 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | .211 |
| DH | Hurtubise | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 |
| CF | Fairchild | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .189 |
| RF | Fraley | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .305 |
| 3B | Espinal | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .189 |
| CF | Benson | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .191 |
| CIN | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ashcraft | 4.0 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 94-55 | 4.12 |
| Pagán | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 17-11 | 4.67 |
| Suter | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13-7 | 4.01 |
| Cruz, F | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 32-16 | 4.24 |
| Wilson | 0.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 14-10 | 6.10 |
| Sims | 0.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1-1 | 5.84 |
| Díaz, A | 0.1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 21-9 | 6.75 |
Scoring Plays
Highlights
Decisions
| Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
|---|---|---|
| Martinez, Ju (1-0, 0.71 ERA) | Díaz, A (1-2, 6.75 ERA) |
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2024.05.13 22:41 timg528 $20 for 10,000 mile service
 | I've seen a few posts asking about the cost. I'm stuck in traffic on the way back from it and thought I'd share mine. submitted by timg528 to F150Lightning [link] [comments] The lady at the counter said the wash and charge were complementary, but asked if I wanted to wait around for them. Their policy is to charge the vehicle up 20% over what it came to them with. |
2024.05.13 21:55 _raj_aryan010 Seller Review
 | My first review: submitted by _raj_aryan010 to DesiFragranceAddicts [link] [comments] I have been recently introduced to this part of the world, where people are so fascinated with good smelling water (jk). I have ordered these decants a month back after going through tons of appreciation posts. Thanks to u/pragnasura2 to u/Unhappy-Repeat-3015 for these amazing decants. Both are patient with the recommendations and very swift with replies. You can practically talk with them for hours. The packaging was great and spill proof, delivery was on time and the bottles are travel size, easy to carry. CDNIM : The most versatile of them all, but the opening is so synthetic that it gave me a runny nose for a few days until I got a hang of it. The dry down is amazing, very complex and fascinating tbh. Can be worn to office, parties or even gym, if you survive the opening note. 3-5 sprays could last you 5-6 hrs on a sunny day. The projection is great for a couple of initial hours. Rasasi Hawas: The jack of all trades. Sweet, fresh opening and the dry down is a feel good sort of bubblegum scent. Can't go wrong with this. Not a head turner, but a delightful fragrance. Beast projection and stays for 4-5 hrs with 3 sprays. YSL Y: This one's my favourite and probably be my first full bottle designer perfume. It's very rich and fresh, the projection is subtle but has an aura of its own. Makes me feel so confident when I wear this. I would recommend using this in summers only. Make sure not to overspray (I did, people on my bus were not happy at all), 3 sprays is more than enough. All in all, a must have all rounder pleasant perfume. Tom Ford Noir Extreme: Extremely sweet opening and a very rich dry down, basically makes you edible. Great for special occasions, dates and close encounters. More like a winter fragrance. Beast projection and pleasant dry down. 3 sprays would last 5-6 hrs in cold regions. BDC Clone: I would say the dry down is very very similar to BDC but opening feels like CK One. Did not get time to use this one much, but did not stand the hype around BDC for me. Got many compliments from friends and family, but this perfume saga ends when a stranger compliments me ;) |
2024.05.13 20:43 anon_jh What’s up with the radio?
 | Before I begin, I know, this was a stupid idea 😭 Basically, I tried upgrading my radio with a part from Amazon (Android 13 Car Stereo for Ford Fusion Mondeo 2013-2019) on my 2014 Ford Fusion SE. However, when replacing the mother board, I realized that the manufacturer made it impossible to fit my mother board back on, so long story short, I put my original stereo back in. After reconnecting the battery, the radio and anything related to SYNC or media doesn’t work. The only things showing is the date, temp, and time. Anyone know what’s up? 🥲 It even shows the little blue squares like it’s turning on when I hit power, but goes back to a black screen. submitted by anon_jh to fordfusion [link] [comments] The buttons on the side work, even when I hit menu it only shows “clock settings” and “display settings.” The car even shows the icon that it connected to my phone on Bluetooth and my phone shows it’s connected to my car, but I can’t use it! I’ve read only that maybe it could be ford’s radio anti theft system, but I’m unsure. Any help would be appreciated! :) |
2024.05.13 20:38 Possible-Landscape72 Update on fall shows.
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2024.05.13 20:09 elsa78910 34f My SO’s ex 29F sent this long message idk who to believe. Have any women had a similar experience? How did you react
His ex sent me this message. Sorry it’s so long! Has anybody else gotten a similar message in the past? How did you react?
Message below: “It’s been over a year of me wondering whether I should just come out and ask you or message you… but being afraid that if I do, and I’m wrong, it’ll be a the biggest mistake of my life. I have begged and begged him to tell me what you are to him, and he denies having anything more than a platonic friendship with you.
I want to preface this message with, I have no ill will towards you, I just want some answers… answers I don’t believe I’m going to get from Jared. I don’t know if he’s mentioned anything about me. So here goes…
November 2022, I sent Jared an email, telling him I loved him, missed him, and though I didn’t require a response back, I wanted him to know how sorry I was for everything that had happened and things had ended. He responded with a lengthy email telling me he still fervently loved me and how he too was sorry for how things had ended. That email lead to the last year and a half of events.
December 2022, I drove down to Roanoke and surprised him at the Carilion garage. He left the hospital as fast as he could that night, and we spent the rest of that evening together, catching up, and he left for Key West two days later. Two weeks later, he came up to DC and we had a late birthday celebration for him at Clyde’s in Georgetown and went to see A Christmas Carol at the Ford Theater. A few weeks later we drove to Jersey to see Matchbox20, by now it was the end of January 2023. Almost every week off, for the last year, he would come up and see me, if even for only two days, or I would drive down to Roanoke and spend the week with him. We spoke about our past, the hurt, and future, he told me numerous times that when he pictured marriage and children, it was only with me, but he needed time. This part is important, and I’ll come back to it later. We celebrated my birthday at a restaurant in Navy Yard, two weeks before you guys left for London. Chris video chatted with that night while we were at the restaurant eating Wagyu, and they discussed the new shipment of sunglasses Chris had gotten for Miggieswear.
The weekend of the Super Bowl, he had come seen me earlier that week, the day after he left I came to Roanoke and left the day of the Super Bowl. He told me his parents were having a viewing party and he had to go home and cook. I’m now assuming he left my Airbnb and came to your place.
That February he planned a trip to London, with Nicole, Ryan and Chris, and what he told me were, Nicole’s “friends.” Nicole happened to post a picture of you guys sitting on the plane and I was shocked, why would Nicole’s friend be sitting between him and Ryan. I sent him a message while you were on that 6 hour flight, telling him that if he had been seeing somebody, then why didn’t he tell me? There was no point in us spending time together if he had moved on. His response to me was “do you even know what you’re looking at? I’m surprised you don’t recognize her, that’s Nicole’s friend. You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions right now and don’t know what you’re talking about.” Something in my gut didn’t believe it but I wanted to trust that, so I did. I put you out of sight, out of mind. When he got back, he told me how he wished I’d been there with him, we both love history and old buildings, it’s a place we would have found magical together. I don’t know who came up with the idea of going to London, but part of me always thinks I’m the one who put it there when I shared the pictures i had taken when I went there the year we had been no contact.
We went to a Kenny Chesney concert in Charlottesville that March when I got back from my family trip to India, and he got back from London. Between work, us both traveling with our families, we were excited to see one another. We were going to go to St Augustine, but because of the weather, we stayed in Roanoke and saw Kenny Chesney in Charlottesville. The original plan had been to spend the night in Charlottesville at a hotel, but we couldn’t get one last minute so we ended up driving back to Roanoke and sneaking into the basement at his parents house and sleeping in his bed at 3am.
A few months later, we went to Richmond, and stayed the weekend, exploring the city, and watched Hamilton at the Altria Theater. A few months after that, we went to Savannah and Atlanta, where he got a flat tire driving into the garage, and spent the rest of the weekend at a yoga retreat. July, he asked me to go to Boston with him and his brother, for 4th or July weekend, but I couldn’t because my siblings were in town. Every single week, he came down and either stayed with me, or made a quick trip to spend time with me…
This past September, I found out he took you to Justin’s wedding, and I broke. I needed more from him. I have known him, been intimate with him, shared my every fear, worry, I have brought him home cooked meals from DC and surprised him at work with dinner, I’ve made him care packages. I’ve made Ryan Easter baskets and sent him birthday presents and encouraged Jared to put him in academic classes, I’ve helped Jared look into private schools for Ryan, and weighed the pros and cons of the options. I had no expectations in return from him other than, at the very least, a mutual respect and HONESTY.
I’ve seen him quite a few times since September and I last saw him in Roanoke at the beginning of March 2024. We sat in front of each other, in his car before he went into work that Monday night, and he told me, again, that when he thinks of marriage and a future, I’m the only one he pictures a marriage and children with. I’m not saying this to hurt you, or to make a point, I’m saying it because i don’t know what to believe anymore.
I became suspicious of his relationship with you, when he mentioned going to Macchu Picchu and hiking through the mountains. As all women have the ability to find out details they might later regret, I did the same thing. Except I didn’t believe he had actually gone to Macchu Picchu. I knew his passport had been long expired since around or before COVID, and I knew he had renewed it before he went to London. But that was when I realized you were the girl in the photo that Nicole posted. When I confronted him about Macchu Picchu, he told me he had been joking and he had also already told me he’d been joking. He had NEVER told me it was a joke, he had actually refused to show me photos when I asked him for pictures from the trip… he had then proceeded to change the topic, which is what had even raised red flags in my head.
My point is, I have asked him point blank so many times whether you two have a relationship. You tell me you still love me, that you picture marriage and a family with me, but this girl is a part of your life, and you took her to a wedding with you, while I was on a trip with my siblings, you took her to London with you, and you continue to tell me she’s just a friend. I asked him again on Tuesday night/Wednesday Morning after he left work, if you two are dating, and he said no. He asked me why I’m so hyper-fixated on somebody who’s just a friend when he has a million other female friends.
In September, he told me he needed a month to clear his head, that he wanted to commit to me, but he was afraid and that he needed to get over the fear and roadblock of our past break up. I gave him grace and understood. So we took a 4 week break. Some time during that time period, he sent me a snap of doves, and said “doves, and swans mate for life.” He sent me Ed Sheeran songs telling me he wants to find his way back to me. “No Strings Attached… you are the one I love”
In November, he messaged me and told me he had a surprise for me and to look for something in the mail. He loves the Count of Monte Carlo, it’s one of his favorite movies, and he told me it was in reference to that. A few weeks later I got a candle, a silver 400 dollar Buddha candle from Thomson Ferrier. I didn’t understand the reference to the Count of Monte Carlo, but it was a beautiful gesture and present… especially because he knew how much little gestures from him mean to me.
Fast forward to January, I got another 350 dollar black skull candle from him, from Thomson Ferrier. At this point I was upset, angry and livid. I called my sister in tears that evening. I had come back to him because he told me he loved me, that he “has a fire that burns so deeply” when he thinks of me. If i had known that wasn’t true, i would have closed the chapter a year and a half ago. I don’t want $700 worth of gifts and candles, I want more. I want marriage, I want children, I want our lives to move forward, I want communication. Out of anger, I packed up the candle, his sweatshirts and clothes that he had left at my place this past year, and mailed them back to his house. I’m sure it’s sitting somewhere in his basement closet/ bedroom… along with his white Huq sweatshirt, a picture of us I had up in my house, and various articles of clothing.
What upsets me is that he didn’t just involve me this year, he involved my family. He sent my mom presents, my parents in return sent him gifts. My sister, parents and cousins messaged him asking him to come around more. There was no point in involving my family, if he was going to involve himself with you. There was no point in involving himself with me, if he was going to involve himself with you. Those leather Indian shoes sitting in his room, my dad bought those for him. That blue sweater, those green pants and that maroon shirt, my parents bought those for him just this last year.
I don’t know what he’s told you about me, but I will say this. I was your age when we started dating. I was 29 years old. He was single, that’s what everyone in our residency program thought. He would tell everyone how Shari left him one day, all of a sudden just got up and left. “I saw the look behind her eyes just change when she looked at me.” He would tell everyone his horrific dating stories. When i started dating him, there was no doubt in my mind he was single… but I was wrong. He wasn’t single, he was dating Devon, one of the nurses from Carilion, and he had been for the past 4 years prior to that. At one point when he moved to Norfolk, she had even moved in with him. Even Shari was visiting him in Norfolk during this time period. I would have never suspected it, nobody in our residency program did. It wasn’t until one day, when he told me his friends were visiting from home, and they were all going to a concert together, that I found out. Her profile picture was of the two of them together, and her Facebook relationship status said “in a relationship.” Out of my own naivety, i believed him when he told me she was crazy and obsessed with him. He told me, to him, they were just friends but she wanted more. Women do a lot of things, but no woman is dumb enough to think she’s your girlfriend when she’s not. When we moved back to our hometowns, Devon was there waiting for him. He disappeared one day for 24 hours, told me that he was helping his dad’s friend who was stranded in NC. A year and a half later, i would find out that was a lie and that he had been at a concert Florida Georgia Line concert with her. She had been visiting his grandmother with him, staying at his parents home. The irony is that a few weeks after he took her, he took me to the same concert in Scranton. Him and his family didn’t bat an eye when a month later, I showed up and was the “new girlfriend.”
Eventually Devon found out about his lies and left him, but again, stupid me thought she was a crazy girl who just wanted so badly to be with him, that she built their relationship up in her head.
Dignity, respect for humans, empathy, are the most important qualities in a human being.
What I don’t wish is for you to be in my spot in 5 years. He will paint you in his colors, make you fall in love with MB20, and take you to Augustana concerts, he’ll tell you that you understand him, and his heart in a way that nobody else does. He’ll bond with you over music, and send you songs that make you feel he’s talking about you. He is so good at making you feel seen, and involving you with his family. He’ll say he had a vision of a girl that looks like you, coming into his life, and here you are, his soul mate. And one day, the same way that Shari, Devon and I got lost in him, the reality of everything will come pouring down on you. Be careful, there are signs between the lines, and the smiles, and good times. Make sure you don’t miss those, whatever you decide.
My relationship with him, started off just like yours. Another girl on the periphery, and teetering the line of inappropriate. Everything you call him out on, will always have an excuse, and you will believe him because he’s the “good guy” who goes above and beyond for people.
I don’t wish for any woman to go through the pain I’ve gone through, the manipulation, the lies and the emotional abuse. I can’t tell you what to do, but I will say, be careful and don’t be blind to the small things that will one day become huge. The novelty will fade, and though Jared isn’t the devil, he has a lot of growing up to do at 40. It was not okay to toy with me and drag me through the mud this year. It wasn’t okay to minimize his relationship with you and lie to me about it. It’s not okay to, to this day claim to see a life with me and not commit to it. I deserve better, and you deserve better.
How men talk about their ex’s and other women is an indication about how they will one day talk about and treat you. That is the worst and best lesson i have learned. I’m 34, years of my life wasted, and he took another year of my life knowing full well, this is how it would end. He’s sat on the phone with me for hours talking about how stupid PA’s are and if you were going to not be a doctor, at least become an NP, who has better bedside knowledge. Why would he say that, because i suppose you’re a PA and it minimizes the significance of even having a relationship with somebody who isn’t as intelligent as he is. The lack of respect will always be there, you just have to look for it.
Dishonesty, and manipulation are a plague, and if that’s who you are at 40, it is who you will always be unless you recognize that something needs to change. Where there is no accountability, there can be no change. I’m not the exception, I’m the same as the two girls before me. He’ll show you text messages where he never responded to me, even though he replies on Snapchat where every thing is erased. I cannot believe i didn’t see the signs. He will make me look crazy and laugh at me, the same way he showed me messages from Jen, and Elisabeth, and Devon, and made them sound crazy to me. I guess that’s his MO. The same way he told me you were nothing to him.
I was going to send you this message, two months ago… i then decided not to because he convinced me he wasn’t dating you… I saw him less than a month ago in Roanoke, i begged him to tell me that he was in a relationship with you. He said he wasn’t, again, he told me he was going to a wedding alone with only Ryan and that he wasn’t taking you. I then begged him to tell me that we were done and that he didn’t love me anymore. His response was idk what’s going to happen a year from now, i know I’ll see you again. His response every time has been when im ready for a relationship, emotionally, do you want me to finally let you know? I don’t care to be with him anymore. I’m so over it but i really think you should know the type of person you’re dealing with.
He has put me through so much hell for a year and a half of my life, stringing me along acting like he’s doing me a favor while he works on his own mental health and claims to still love me when we are together.”
TLDR: my SO’s ex messaged me saying he’s been seeing both of us for the past year and a half. Has anybody experienced this before. She sent me pictures from the past year of them and their text exchanges
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Message below: “It’s been over a year of me wondering whether I should just come out and ask you or message you… but being afraid that if I do, and I’m wrong, it’ll be a the biggest mistake of my life. I have begged and begged him to tell me what you are to him, and he denies having anything more than a platonic friendship with you.
I want to preface this message with, I have no ill will towards you, I just want some answers… answers I don’t believe I’m going to get from Jared. I don’t know if he’s mentioned anything about me. So here goes…
November 2022, I sent Jared an email, telling him I loved him, missed him, and though I didn’t require a response back, I wanted him to know how sorry I was for everything that had happened and things had ended. He responded with a lengthy email telling me he still fervently loved me and how he too was sorry for how things had ended. That email lead to the last year and a half of events.
December 2022, I drove down to Roanoke and surprised him at the Carilion garage. He left the hospital as fast as he could that night, and we spent the rest of that evening together, catching up, and he left for Key West two days later. Two weeks later, he came up to DC and we had a late birthday celebration for him at Clyde’s in Georgetown and went to see A Christmas Carol at the Ford Theater. A few weeks later we drove to Jersey to see Matchbox20, by now it was the end of January 2023. Almost every week off, for the last year, he would come up and see me, if even for only two days, or I would drive down to Roanoke and spend the week with him. We spoke about our past, the hurt, and future, he told me numerous times that when he pictured marriage and children, it was only with me, but he needed time. This part is important, and I’ll come back to it later. We celebrated my birthday at a restaurant in Navy Yard, two weeks before you guys left for London. Chris video chatted with that night while we were at the restaurant eating Wagyu, and they discussed the new shipment of sunglasses Chris had gotten for Miggieswear.
The weekend of the Super Bowl, he had come seen me earlier that week, the day after he left I came to Roanoke and left the day of the Super Bowl. He told me his parents were having a viewing party and he had to go home and cook. I’m now assuming he left my Airbnb and came to your place.
That February he planned a trip to London, with Nicole, Ryan and Chris, and what he told me were, Nicole’s “friends.” Nicole happened to post a picture of you guys sitting on the plane and I was shocked, why would Nicole’s friend be sitting between him and Ryan. I sent him a message while you were on that 6 hour flight, telling him that if he had been seeing somebody, then why didn’t he tell me? There was no point in us spending time together if he had moved on. His response to me was “do you even know what you’re looking at? I’m surprised you don’t recognize her, that’s Nicole’s friend. You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions right now and don’t know what you’re talking about.” Something in my gut didn’t believe it but I wanted to trust that, so I did. I put you out of sight, out of mind. When he got back, he told me how he wished I’d been there with him, we both love history and old buildings, it’s a place we would have found magical together. I don’t know who came up with the idea of going to London, but part of me always thinks I’m the one who put it there when I shared the pictures i had taken when I went there the year we had been no contact.
We went to a Kenny Chesney concert in Charlottesville that March when I got back from my family trip to India, and he got back from London. Between work, us both traveling with our families, we were excited to see one another. We were going to go to St Augustine, but because of the weather, we stayed in Roanoke and saw Kenny Chesney in Charlottesville. The original plan had been to spend the night in Charlottesville at a hotel, but we couldn’t get one last minute so we ended up driving back to Roanoke and sneaking into the basement at his parents house and sleeping in his bed at 3am.
A few months later, we went to Richmond, and stayed the weekend, exploring the city, and watched Hamilton at the Altria Theater. A few months after that, we went to Savannah and Atlanta, where he got a flat tire driving into the garage, and spent the rest of the weekend at a yoga retreat. July, he asked me to go to Boston with him and his brother, for 4th or July weekend, but I couldn’t because my siblings were in town. Every single week, he came down and either stayed with me, or made a quick trip to spend time with me…
This past September, I found out he took you to Justin’s wedding, and I broke. I needed more from him. I have known him, been intimate with him, shared my every fear, worry, I have brought him home cooked meals from DC and surprised him at work with dinner, I’ve made him care packages. I’ve made Ryan Easter baskets and sent him birthday presents and encouraged Jared to put him in academic classes, I’ve helped Jared look into private schools for Ryan, and weighed the pros and cons of the options. I had no expectations in return from him other than, at the very least, a mutual respect and HONESTY.
I’ve seen him quite a few times since September and I last saw him in Roanoke at the beginning of March 2024. We sat in front of each other, in his car before he went into work that Monday night, and he told me, again, that when he thinks of marriage and a future, I’m the only one he pictures a marriage and children with. I’m not saying this to hurt you, or to make a point, I’m saying it because i don’t know what to believe anymore.
I became suspicious of his relationship with you, when he mentioned going to Macchu Picchu and hiking through the mountains. As all women have the ability to find out details they might later regret, I did the same thing. Except I didn’t believe he had actually gone to Macchu Picchu. I knew his passport had been long expired since around or before COVID, and I knew he had renewed it before he went to London. But that was when I realized you were the girl in the photo that Nicole posted. When I confronted him about Macchu Picchu, he told me he had been joking and he had also already told me he’d been joking. He had NEVER told me it was a joke, he had actually refused to show me photos when I asked him for pictures from the trip… he had then proceeded to change the topic, which is what had even raised red flags in my head.
My point is, I have asked him point blank so many times whether you two have a relationship. You tell me you still love me, that you picture marriage and a family with me, but this girl is a part of your life, and you took her to a wedding with you, while I was on a trip with my siblings, you took her to London with you, and you continue to tell me she’s just a friend. I asked him again on Tuesday night/Wednesday Morning after he left work, if you two are dating, and he said no. He asked me why I’m so hyper-fixated on somebody who’s just a friend when he has a million other female friends.
In September, he told me he needed a month to clear his head, that he wanted to commit to me, but he was afraid and that he needed to get over the fear and roadblock of our past break up. I gave him grace and understood. So we took a 4 week break. Some time during that time period, he sent me a snap of doves, and said “doves, and swans mate for life.” He sent me Ed Sheeran songs telling me he wants to find his way back to me. “No Strings Attached… you are the one I love”
In November, he messaged me and told me he had a surprise for me and to look for something in the mail. He loves the Count of Monte Carlo, it’s one of his favorite movies, and he told me it was in reference to that. A few weeks later I got a candle, a silver 400 dollar Buddha candle from Thomson Ferrier. I didn’t understand the reference to the Count of Monte Carlo, but it was a beautiful gesture and present… especially because he knew how much little gestures from him mean to me.
Fast forward to January, I got another 350 dollar black skull candle from him, from Thomson Ferrier. At this point I was upset, angry and livid. I called my sister in tears that evening. I had come back to him because he told me he loved me, that he “has a fire that burns so deeply” when he thinks of me. If i had known that wasn’t true, i would have closed the chapter a year and a half ago. I don’t want $700 worth of gifts and candles, I want more. I want marriage, I want children, I want our lives to move forward, I want communication. Out of anger, I packed up the candle, his sweatshirts and clothes that he had left at my place this past year, and mailed them back to his house. I’m sure it’s sitting somewhere in his basement closet/ bedroom… along with his white Huq sweatshirt, a picture of us I had up in my house, and various articles of clothing.
What upsets me is that he didn’t just involve me this year, he involved my family. He sent my mom presents, my parents in return sent him gifts. My sister, parents and cousins messaged him asking him to come around more. There was no point in involving my family, if he was going to involve himself with you. There was no point in involving himself with me, if he was going to involve himself with you. Those leather Indian shoes sitting in his room, my dad bought those for him. That blue sweater, those green pants and that maroon shirt, my parents bought those for him just this last year.
I don’t know what he’s told you about me, but I will say this. I was your age when we started dating. I was 29 years old. He was single, that’s what everyone in our residency program thought. He would tell everyone how Shari left him one day, all of a sudden just got up and left. “I saw the look behind her eyes just change when she looked at me.” He would tell everyone his horrific dating stories. When i started dating him, there was no doubt in my mind he was single… but I was wrong. He wasn’t single, he was dating Devon, one of the nurses from Carilion, and he had been for the past 4 years prior to that. At one point when he moved to Norfolk, she had even moved in with him. Even Shari was visiting him in Norfolk during this time period. I would have never suspected it, nobody in our residency program did. It wasn’t until one day, when he told me his friends were visiting from home, and they were all going to a concert together, that I found out. Her profile picture was of the two of them together, and her Facebook relationship status said “in a relationship.” Out of my own naivety, i believed him when he told me she was crazy and obsessed with him. He told me, to him, they were just friends but she wanted more. Women do a lot of things, but no woman is dumb enough to think she’s your girlfriend when she’s not. When we moved back to our hometowns, Devon was there waiting for him. He disappeared one day for 24 hours, told me that he was helping his dad’s friend who was stranded in NC. A year and a half later, i would find out that was a lie and that he had been at a concert Florida Georgia Line concert with her. She had been visiting his grandmother with him, staying at his parents home. The irony is that a few weeks after he took her, he took me to the same concert in Scranton. Him and his family didn’t bat an eye when a month later, I showed up and was the “new girlfriend.”
Eventually Devon found out about his lies and left him, but again, stupid me thought she was a crazy girl who just wanted so badly to be with him, that she built their relationship up in her head.
Dignity, respect for humans, empathy, are the most important qualities in a human being.
What I don’t wish is for you to be in my spot in 5 years. He will paint you in his colors, make you fall in love with MB20, and take you to Augustana concerts, he’ll tell you that you understand him, and his heart in a way that nobody else does. He’ll bond with you over music, and send you songs that make you feel he’s talking about you. He is so good at making you feel seen, and involving you with his family. He’ll say he had a vision of a girl that looks like you, coming into his life, and here you are, his soul mate. And one day, the same way that Shari, Devon and I got lost in him, the reality of everything will come pouring down on you. Be careful, there are signs between the lines, and the smiles, and good times. Make sure you don’t miss those, whatever you decide.
My relationship with him, started off just like yours. Another girl on the periphery, and teetering the line of inappropriate. Everything you call him out on, will always have an excuse, and you will believe him because he’s the “good guy” who goes above and beyond for people.
I don’t wish for any woman to go through the pain I’ve gone through, the manipulation, the lies and the emotional abuse. I can’t tell you what to do, but I will say, be careful and don’t be blind to the small things that will one day become huge. The novelty will fade, and though Jared isn’t the devil, he has a lot of growing up to do at 40. It was not okay to toy with me and drag me through the mud this year. It wasn’t okay to minimize his relationship with you and lie to me about it. It’s not okay to, to this day claim to see a life with me and not commit to it. I deserve better, and you deserve better.
How men talk about their ex’s and other women is an indication about how they will one day talk about and treat you. That is the worst and best lesson i have learned. I’m 34, years of my life wasted, and he took another year of my life knowing full well, this is how it would end. He’s sat on the phone with me for hours talking about how stupid PA’s are and if you were going to not be a doctor, at least become an NP, who has better bedside knowledge. Why would he say that, because i suppose you’re a PA and it minimizes the significance of even having a relationship with somebody who isn’t as intelligent as he is. The lack of respect will always be there, you just have to look for it.
Dishonesty, and manipulation are a plague, and if that’s who you are at 40, it is who you will always be unless you recognize that something needs to change. Where there is no accountability, there can be no change. I’m not the exception, I’m the same as the two girls before me. He’ll show you text messages where he never responded to me, even though he replies on Snapchat where every thing is erased. I cannot believe i didn’t see the signs. He will make me look crazy and laugh at me, the same way he showed me messages from Jen, and Elisabeth, and Devon, and made them sound crazy to me. I guess that’s his MO. The same way he told me you were nothing to him.
I was going to send you this message, two months ago… i then decided not to because he convinced me he wasn’t dating you… I saw him less than a month ago in Roanoke, i begged him to tell me that he was in a relationship with you. He said he wasn’t, again, he told me he was going to a wedding alone with only Ryan and that he wasn’t taking you. I then begged him to tell me that we were done and that he didn’t love me anymore. His response was idk what’s going to happen a year from now, i know I’ll see you again. His response every time has been when im ready for a relationship, emotionally, do you want me to finally let you know? I don’t care to be with him anymore. I’m so over it but i really think you should know the type of person you’re dealing with.
He has put me through so much hell for a year and a half of my life, stringing me along acting like he’s doing me a favor while he works on his own mental health and claims to still love me when we are together.”
TLDR: my SO’s ex messaged me saying he’s been seeing both of us for the past year and a half. Has anybody experienced this before. She sent me pictures from the past year of them and their text exchanges