2024.05.15 19:29 Wilieperez05 Coco kick still viable?
2024.05.15 16:23 Sikhdiviner Outsiders in Vodou
I noticed some more Vídeos about me on tiktok from people in this group and i wanted to clarify something. submitted by Sikhdiviner to Vodou [link] [comments] In the Foto is My Father, Monroe, Jr, I don’t talk about my Father a lot because He is not a good person spiritually or otherwise. Despite being a 3 time war veteran and Very successful in his Career as most Narcissists tend to be, He was also extremely abusive, manipulative and tried to let my mother die without cancer treatment had i not interfered. Even before that, I didn’t talk to my Father for a long time, only via my mother. This Dark Skinned man, now 90 years old, only comes from 3 lineages of People, My grandfather is descendend from free INDO JAMAICANs who immigrated to the USA Through NEW ORLEANS in the late 1800s. My grandmother is INDIGENOUS rom North Carolina and HAITIAN, she died after childbirth in her twenties But i Still have her portraits. My great grandparents were born in 1890s! I have been getting lesons from houngans and mambos since 2009, white, black, creole, haitian, dominican from new Orleans to Boston to New York to Miami to Haiti and there has not been any vodou Practitioner in haitian vodou or 21 Divisions that has not seen My haitian ancestors or Lwa, they show up even in misas in other traditions. The first time i went into trance with a Lwa was in new Orleans on a trip in 2009. The only reason why i even Entertained the idea of vodou because i did not practice it before not wanted to. I talked to dead people, i didnt need to light a candle or use Cards, it runs in the family despite being christian. My Father spoke English, French and vietnamese, my mother spoke English, spanish, French, Italian. Both parents lived abroad, spanish was my first Language on record. I did not Grow up speaking kreyol, I did not want to learn it until vodou came into play. Só i joined haitihub and other websites and apps back in the day. But i Understand it better than i Speak it só i don’t. I’m not trying to pretend to be born in haiti or act like i grew up caribbean because i grew up in a Rich white suburb, i went to School with WASP Students, i didn’t go abroad until my 30s. I am not in vodou because i wanted to reconnect or because i liked the Culture. I am not going to join a live speaking kreyol to overcompensate for my lighter skin or sounding like a white boy. I had haitian Mentors and godparents. I talk to my godmother every week, the same one 7 years now even though I did other ceremonies with other Manbos before. I also lived in a French speaking African country so I know what I said about me in kreyol. I have never been initiated by a white person in any ATR, the Lightest cuban was a few shades lighter than me If you want to go on this “I am haitian and you are not” rant towards me, disrespecting my ancestors while at the same time propping up outsiders who have no African ancestry at all, it only looks bad on you 🥥 because 1) it shows you cannot see what other houngans and mambos have always seen aka you cannot see even from photo and 2) initiatory bonds aside, it shows that you value whiteness above african Americans and black caribbeans with the perception that they bring in more money and more submissive because they need you to learn. Black people in the usa tend to be less submissive that is definitely true especially since some of their ancestors have been coming from Haiti since the early 1800s. Anyways, most of your godparents know my godmother and she respects me for what i know inside and Outside haitian vodou despite growing up Outside the Culture. And i don’t pay to Achieve that respect either. She Reads my social media and checks me from time to time about regleman and even my art work. Só if you have a personal issue that is really really Worthy of her time, she is easy to contact. Like most houngans, mambos, bokors or makaya, permission is not really needed to read someone from a photo and do it well, if you are that good. When you make post and vídeos about someone’s family, ancestry or background with misinformation it shows you are not that good of a reader (false advertising) and too lazy to use Google before you hit post. |
2024.05.15 01:35 AllOutForNow (Offer) List (Request) Lists/Offers
2024.05.14 20:09 OneMarionberry6103 [US] [Selling] BR 2049, Black Hawk Down, Baby Driver, Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy 4Ks with slips, Criterion blus, GOT 1-3 and more!
Add $5 shipping for individual items or buy two items and get free shipping! submitted by OneMarionberry6103 to MediaSwap [link] [comments] If you’d like additional pictures of something, just let me know. Everything will be packed securely in bubble wrap and shipped in a box. I’ll send a tracking number as soon as the label is printed. I take PayPal G&S or Venmo! Picture 1:
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2024.05.14 19:31 jravitz [WTS] 280+ Bottles - USA SELLER - Niche, Designer, Hard to Find, Discontinued and Vintage (Bottle)
HOUSE | FRAGRANCE | SIZE | REMAINING | Notes/Condition | Price | Type | |
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1 | Amouage | Amber Sogara | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $335 | Niche |
2 | Amouage | Incense Rori Attar | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $299 | Niche |
3 | Amouage | Orris Wakan Attar | 12mL | 99% Full | Full Presentation | $299 | Niche |
4 | Amouage | Rose Aqor Attar | 12mL | 99% Full | Full Presentation | $299 | Niche |
5 | Amouage | Saffron Hamra Attar | 12mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $299 | Niche |
6 | Andy Tauer | Cologne du Maghreb | 50mL | 99% Full | First Release, Rectangular Clear Bottle; With box | $95 | Niche |
7 | Bond No. 9 | Central Park West | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
8 | Bond No. 9 | Dubai Jade | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
9 | Bond No. 9 | Hamptons | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
10 | Bond No. 9 | Madison Square Park | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
11 | Bond No. 9 | NOMAD | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $169 | Niche |
12 | Bond No. 9 | Riverside Drive | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
13 | Bond No. 9 | So New York | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
14 | Bond No. 9 | Sutton Place | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
15 | Bond No. 9 | Wall Street | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $149 | Niche |
16 | By Kilian | Bamboo Harmony | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
17 | By Kilian | Black Phantom | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
18 | By Kilian | Can't Stop Loving You | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $185 | Niche |
19 | By Kilian | Forbidden Games | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $125 | Niche |
20 | By Kilian | Gold Knight | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
21 | By Kilian | Gold Knight | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $145 | Niche |
22 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad | 250mL | 99% Full | Decanter; No Box | $650 | Niche |
23 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad | 50mL | 98% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $135 | Niche |
24 | By Kilian | Good Girl Gone Bad Eau Fraiche | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $180 | Niche |
25 | By Kilian | Intoxicated | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
26 | By Kilian | L'Heure Verte | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
27 | By Kilian | Moonlight In Heaven | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester Refill (No Spray, No Box) | $199 | Niche |
28 | By Kilian | Roses on Ice | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
29 | Byredo | Eyes Closed | 50mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $135 | Niche |
30 | Byredo | Infloresence | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
31 | Byredo | Lil Fleur | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
32 | Byredo | Sunday Cologne | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $135 | Niche |
33 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | Beige Parfum | 15mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
34 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | Misia EdT | 200mL | 90% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $325 | Niche |
35 | Chanel / Chanel Exclusif | No. 22 EdT | 200mL | 95% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $325 | Niche |
36 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | 7 Mini Set as Pictured | 7x 5mL | 100% Full | 7 Official Minis from 2010-2011... Mitzah, Milly-A-La-Foret, Granville, Cologne Royale, Eau Noire, New Look 1947 | $180 | Niche |
37 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Bois D'Argent | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0V01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
38 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Cologne Royale | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1X01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
39 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Diorissima | 7.5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini; No Cannister - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
40 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Eau Noire | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1R01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
41 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Eden Roc | 7.5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
42 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Granville | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0V01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $35 | Niche |
43 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | Milly-La-Foret | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 0W01 (2010 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
44 | Christian Dior / Dior Privee | New Look 1947 | 5mL | 100% Full | Official Mini - Batch Code 1R01 (2011 Production Date) - Price includes shipping | $30 | Niche |
45 | Clive Christian | C for Men | 50mL | 95% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
46 | Clive Christian | I Pour Femme (Woody Floral with Vintage Rose) | 50mL | 99% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
47 | Clive Christian | Rock Rose | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $229 | Niche |
48 | Clive Christian | X Pour Femme | 50mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $169 | Niche |
49 | Creed | Aventus - 19P21 (Decant) | 50mL | 100% Full | Magnetic Cap Decant | $169 | Niche |
50 | Creed | Aventus - F1396 | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $209 | Niche |
51 | Creed | Aventus for Her - F Batch | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
52 | Creed | Bois du Portugal | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
53 | Creed | Carmina - F1449 | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Cap or Box) | $199 | Niche |
54 | Creed | Erolfa | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap | $185 | Niche |
55 | Creed | Green Irish Tweed | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $195 | Niche |
56 | Creed | Himalaya - F Batch | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
57 | Creed | Jardin D'Amalfi | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box, No Cap) | $199 | Niche |
58 | Creed | Millesime Imperial | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
59 | Creed | Original Santal | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
60 | Creed | Original Vetiver | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
61 | Creed | Queen of Silk | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Metal Cap | $275 | Niche |
62 | Creed | Refillable Atomizer (5mL Leather Wrapped) Blue | 5mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $85 | Niche |
63 | Creed | Refillable Atomizer (5mL Leather Wrapped) Grey | 5mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $85 | Niche |
64 | Creed | Royal Oud - F Batch | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $260 | Niche |
65 | Creed | Royal Water - F238 | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
66 | Creed | Silver Mountain Water - 21V01A | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
67 | Creed | Spice and Wood | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $219 | Niche |
68 | Creed | Viking - F BATCH | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
69 | Creed | Viking Cologne | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap | $185 | Niche |
70 | Creed | Virgin Island Water | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Plastic Cap (No Box) | $195 | Niche |
71 | Creed | White Amber - 17R01 | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $155 | Niche |
72 | Diptyque | Eau de Papier EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $100 | Niche |
73 | Diptyque | Ombre Dans L'eau EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $100 | Niche |
74 | Diptyque | Oyedo EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
75 | Diptyque | Philosykos EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
76 | Fragrance Du Bois | Brume du Matin | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
77 | Fragrance Du Bois | Cannabis Blue | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
78 | Fragrance Du Bois | Cannabis Intense | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
79 | Fragrance Du Bois | HERITAGE | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $330 | Niche |
80 | Fragrance du Bois | Lovers | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $325 | Niche |
81 | Fragrance Du Bois | New York Fifth Avenue | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
82 | Fragrance Du Bois | SAHRAA | 100mL | 99% Full | Full presentation with Box | $399 | Niche |
83 | Fragrance Du Bois | Siberian Rose | 100mL | 100% Full | New, No Box | $180 | Niche |
84 | Frederic Malle | Cologne Indellible | 100mL | 85% Full | Full presentation with Box | $175 | Niche |
85 | Frederic Malle | Eau de Magnolia | 10mL | 100% Full | Official Travel Spray | $55 | Niche |
86 | Frederic Malle | Monsieur | 10mL | 95% Full | Official Travel Spray | $55 | Niche |
87 | Frederic Malle | Promise | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New (Not Sealed) | $315 | Niche |
88 | Gallagher | Bergamot Silk | 100mL | 99% Full | No Box | $79 | Niche |
89 | Giorgio Armani / Armani Prive | Pierre de Lune | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $155 | Niche |
90 | Giorgio Armani / Armani Prive | Rose Alexandrie | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $155 | Niche |
91 | Guerlain | Angelique Noire | 30mL | 100% Full | Mini Bee Bottle Decant | $215 | Niche |
92 | Guerlain | Angelique Noire | 10mL | 100% Full | Tall Glass Decant | $55 | Niche |
93 | Guerlain | French Kiss | 75mL | 98% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $450 | Niche |
94 | Guerlain | Frenchy Lavende | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $399 | Niche |
95 | Guerlain | Herbes Troublantes | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $339 | Niche |
96 | Guerlain | Jasmin Bonheur | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $369 | Niche |
97 | Guerlain | Neroli Outrenoir | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $339 | Niche |
98 | Guerlain | Spiriteuse Double Vanille | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap | $399 | Niche |
99 | Guerlain | Tobacco Honey | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $399 | Niche |
100 | Hermes / Hermessence | Agar Ebene | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $150 | Niche |
101 | Hermes / Hermessence | Ambre Narguile | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
102 | Hermes / Hermessence | Cedre Sambac | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
103 | Hermes / Hermessence | Epice Marine | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
104 | Hermes / Hermessence | Myrrhe Eglantine | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $185 | Niche |
105 | Hermes / Hermessence | Poivre Samarcade | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
106 | Hermes / Hermessence | Santal Massoia | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
107 | Hermes / Hermessence | Vetiver Tonka | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
108 | House of Sillage | Nouez Moi | 75mL | 99% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $120 | Niche |
109 | I Profumi di Firenze | Caterina De Medici | 50mL | 99% Full | No Box | $35 | Niche |
110 | Initio | High Frequency | 90mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $180 | Niche |
111 | Initio | Oud for Happiness | 90mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box | $189 | Niche |
112 | Jo Malone | English Pear & Freesia | 30mL | 100% Full | No Box | $50 | Niche |
113 | Le Labo | Bigarade 18 - Hong Kong Exclusive | 50mL | 100% Full | Full Bottle, Retail Label | $299 | Niche |
114 | Le Labo | Mousse de Chene 30 - Amsterdam City Exclusive | 50mL | 99% Full | Sprayed Once to Test / Brand New; No Box | $259 | Niche |
115 | Le Labo | Oud 27 | 50mL | 99% Full | Full presentation with Box | $169 | Niche |
116 | Le Labo | Santal 33 | 50mL | 100% Full | Full Bottle, Retail Label | $135 | Niche |
117 | Liquides Imaginaires | Bloody Wood | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
118 | Liquides Imaginaires | Desert Sauve | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
119 | Liquides Imaginaires | Fleur de Sable | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
120 | Liquides Imaginaires | Fleuve Tendre | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
121 | Liquides Imaginaires | Sancti | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester; No Box, No Cap | $85 | Niche |
122 | Loewe | 7 EdT | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
123 | Loewe | Aire Anthesis | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $100 | Niche |
124 | Loewe | Esencia EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $120 | Niche |
125 | Loewe | Esencia Elixir | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
126 | Loewe | Man 001 EdP | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $120 | Niche |
127 | Louis Vuitton | Contre Moi | 100mL | 99% Full | Tester (Bottle may show some damage, Cap has no paint/is peeling) | $385 | Niche |
128 | Louis Vuitton | Sun Song | 100mL | 98% Full | Tester (Bottle is scratched, may have an engraving, and Cap has no paint/is peeling) | $425 | Niche |
129 | Louis Vuitton | Sun Song | 200mL | 98% Full | Dummy Bottle, filled with real juice. I don't think it's refillable. | $750 | Niche |
130 | Maison Crivelli | Bois Datchai | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $169 | Niche |
131 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | 724 | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $355 | Niche |
132 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | 724 | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
133 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | A la Rose | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $315 | Niche |
134 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Femme EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $150 | Niche |
135 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Femme Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
136 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Amyris Homme EdT | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
137 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
138 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $145 | Niche |
139 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Celestia Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
140 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Media Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $150 | Niche |
141 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
142 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $125 | Niche |
143 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $225 | Niche |
144 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Cologne Forte | 35mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
145 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Universalis Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
146 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $215 | Niche |
147 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $135 | Niche |
148 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae Cologne Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $125 | Niche |
149 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Aqua Vitae Forte | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $160 | Niche |
150 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Baccarat Rouge 540 EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $209 | Niche |
151 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Baccarat Rouge 540 Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $300 | Niche |
152 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Feminine Pluriel | 200mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $335 | Niche |
153 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Feminine Pluriel Special Edition Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Full Presentation With Mirror Display | $499 | Niche |
154 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Gentle Fluidity Gold | 200mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $365 | Niche |
155 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Gentle Fluidity Gold | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
156 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | L'eau a La Rose | 35mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $90 | Niche |
157 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | L'Homme a la Rose | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
158 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Masculin Pluriel | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $165 | Niche |
159 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
160 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
161 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Silk Mood EdP | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $170 | Niche |
162 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Oud Silk Mood Extrait | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $190 | Niche |
163 | Maison Francis Kurkdjian | Petit Matin | 70mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $145 | Niche |
164 | Maison Lancome | Orange Bigarades | 100mL | 100% Full | Full presentation with Box | $229 | Niche |
165 | Mark Birley | Charles Street | 75mL | 97% Full | Travel Version | $90 | Niche |
166 | Memo Paris | French Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
167 | Memo Paris | Italian Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
168 | Memo Paris | Lailabella | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
169 | Memo Paris | Marfa | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
170 | Memo Paris | Moon Fever | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
171 | Memo Paris | Oriental Leather | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box or Cap) | $115 | Niche |
172 | Mind Games | As-Suli's Diamond | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
173 | Mind Games | Gardez | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
174 | Mind Games | Vieri | 100mL | 100% Full | Brand New, Sealed | $249 | Niche |
175 | Mizensir | Bois de Mysore | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
176 | Mizensir | Cologne de Matte | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
177 | Mizensir | Ideal Oud | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
178 | Mizensir | Rose Exaltante | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
179 | Mizensir | Tonic Water | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
180 | Mizensir | Vert Empire | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $155 | Niche |
181 | Oh Mon Dieu! | L'objet | 100mL | 100% Full | Full presentation with Box | $125 | Niche |
182 | Oliver and Co. | M.O.U.S.S.E. | 50mL | 99% Full | Limited Edition 87/133 | $110 | Niche |
183 | Parfums de Marley | Valaya | 75mL | 100% Full | Tester with Cap (No Box) | $175 | Niche |
184 | Penhaligon's | Elixir | 100mL | 90% Full | No Box | $250 | Niche |
185 | Penhaligon's | Petra | 100mL | 100% Full | Tester (No Box) | $200 | Niche |
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Hola gente, les quiero comentar una situación con una bronca total para que tengan en cuenta como se manejan desde EcoValores, no vaya a ser que les pase lo mismo que a mí. submitted by Pirate300 to merval [link] [comments] La semana pasada compré calls de TXAR, TXAC850.JU, para ser precisos. Era mi primera vez operando opciones en Eco, previamente tenia experiencia haciéndolo con Bullmarket, Cocos, y IOL. Cuestión, llegó al precio de ejercicio y solicité que las ejecutaran de inmediato. A esto los de Eco demoraron casi media hora en responderme (miren el horario del chat) y no me informaron en ningún momento que debía solicitar la venta de las mismas, simplemente cerraron el chat. Esto no sé si puede parecerle obvio a alguien que se maneje con este sistema (yo previamente, nunca tuve una experiencia similar en los otros...). Estaba dispuesto a dejarlo como una mala experiencia, pero lo peor pasó después. Me encuentro hoy con que de 920.000 que había puesto en TXAR, tengo ÚNICAMENTE 200.000 PESOS. Traté de aclarar el tema con la gente de Eco pero me dieron 0 cabida (la tercera foto en la publicación) La verdad que me genera una bronca e impotencia terrible esto. Tenía a EcoValores como un bróker serio, y mientras que he tenido una que otra experiencia negativa operando esto me parece muchísimo. Cuando me puso que lo tiene en cuenta para aprender la próxima veS, así, con errores de ortografía, sentí que me tomaba el pelo. Resumen: me dejaron con 200.000 pesos de 920.000 que había operado, usando un mecanismo que se ve que ni sus propios empleados entienden. Lo más importante es la última imagen, el loco prácticamente se quedó sin palabras para negarme que me cagaron. CUALQUIER COSA. |
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2024.05.13 14:15 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to HighStrangeness [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/zz1ti49qm60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e53f7b8ec62fb68abc04a29caa117d2f21c13325 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/xpyz6eeum60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=292a9a3afe55c7e83d0f6d5ccce43aa5f35d9fec Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/tl0dx4lym60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca523a7f18df130f09c9174e925d044a89852690 Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/mk91ugp3n60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=8218b2c6c3b0a508ef086c37c2d0e07552f73910 https://preview.redd.it/7cehtg65n60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=805fe3d0c8be92d888412d1eeccef6bc88a4708a https://preview.redd.it/izuhsjl6n60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=215f53fa963abdeecb06ad8074583f7260b2df69 https://preview.redd.it/no9xn3f7n60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ed13e6bf07df8a251f6368aab92383ad1bb26ca https://preview.redd.it/hnf9x148n60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=80de62f126a5f7770a12790d167e0aebea8ef378 Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/o7w5pu2in60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d203853c4be4a37108aeea4a7122826bd21525bb This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/3ei6o741q60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=2de94be231313b38b979bbd4b46b3800466e8f26 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. There is of course much to be said about these images and the potential for further investigations, including the peculiar hands this entity seems to posses that does have a passing resemblance to other cases, but lest this drag on to long I will leave it here and attempt to answer any questions that I may be capable of giving insight on. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
2024.05.13 14:14 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to Humanoidencounters [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/le5wrt3rm60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39919dfcd089925de049eb66794003a5dab20573 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/tc06rvxum60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=141ee2128cdcd0894f57f999876ff380a4def235 Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/39i2rdvxm60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=14bf476ca33164db334bc4b835a52b349d66990d Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/tp2rqzw9n60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bef77464608273cc1e6cc1f5b30665c5040a5c2 https://preview.redd.it/vekj9dman60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba133aa62862f89a1e361e21a93de19e9d549496 https://preview.redd.it/sve90i9bn60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=36e737a33624530c85e48f99d9ffd2d7db04d9f5 https://preview.redd.it/03pcokzbn60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8503bec04896be177ce5420daf0ee71482318a6 https://preview.redd.it/yeehoehcn60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=d33d814521c2581d2cb3b5c830fa62c5bae5782e Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/0s611i7hn60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbc1472a0e49504d71a975ebaccb91639e592ed1 This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/gkgzwmvyp60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=65238cf5324c0acfcc076966d141d0114eb89be5 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. There is of course much to be said about these images and the potential for further investigations, including the peculiar hands this entity seems to posses that does have a passing resemblance to other cases, but lest this drag on to long I will leave it here and attempt to answer any questions that I may be capable of giving insight on. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
2024.05.13 14:14 Ufonauter In 1986 an Italian professor working for the University of Pavia in Italy would have a face to face encounter with an unknown entity. But unlike so many other encounters, this professor was able to take 5 photos.
To begin with, I will state that this post was months in the making (mostly waiting and chasing false leads) and carries with it perhaps some answers, plenty of questions, and perhaps for some, a similarity to their own experiences. Special thanks to u/Neo-Rex as well as u/ebycon for their assistance in helping me find and rule out some areas of research. submitted by Ufonauter to aliens [link] [comments] Disclaimer: The following images and text are provided without photo manipulation on my end (besides simple cropping and scanning). There are going to be many references in this post to Italian media, magazines, as well as individual writers. This is by no means an endorsement, advertisement, or other form of ARG intended to sell, market, or persuade anyone to buy, rent, or procure any of the described materials. Because I know this is a new area of topic, and because the images provided are of an unusual nature, I will provide various sources to prove that these images are not enhanced, manipulated by hand or by a contemporary photo manipulation program or AI generation. Before we get into the nitty gritty of the images I will provide background as to how I came upon these images, and the flow of information. I was first made aware of these images after researching separate alien encounters for a post of mine (see that post here for further details regarding that) one of the sources used was "alieni in italia 1945-1995 50 anni di incontri ravvicinati". On page VIII towards the back of the book these images (or rather image as three were compressed into one section) as well as the following text appears https://preview.redd.it/1hnyv22bo60d1.jpg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09e5d51a28114e50ae3b1334c4aeda7109558444 "Vero alieno o scoop giornalistico? Ho evitato di inserire nel presente catalogo questo caso avvero singolare. Si tratte infatti di alcune foto )5_ scattate da un non meglio indentificato "professore universitario di pavia" nell'estate del 1986 e pubblicate da sette. il settimanale del Corriere della Sera. Si referiscono ad una presunta entita aliena che si sarebbe manifestata al professore in una situazione del tutto casuale. Non sono mancati pareri sfavorevoli expressi da parecchi ufologi. ( Foto tratte da: Sette n. 9/10 sette giorni illustrati dal Corriere della Sera, 5 marzo, 1988. Translated: "Real alien or journalistic scoop? I have avoided including in the present catalog this singular case. These are in fact some photos(5) taken by an unidentified "university professor from Pavia" in the summer of 1986 and published by seven. The weekly newspaper Corriere della Sera. They refer to an alleged alien entity that allegedly manifested itself to the professor in a completely random situation. There was no shortage of unfavorable opinions expressed by several ufologists. ( Photo taken from: Seven No. 9/10 seven days illustrated by Corriere della Sera, March 5, 1988. That was all the information provided within. (it should be noted that although this description mentions 5 photos, there are only these 3 provided within Moreno Tambellinis book.) These images captured my attention fairly quickly as I am fairly familiar with purported alien/supernatural photographs, so to find one I have never seen, and in such a quality which is general not present within other such photos as these, was more than enough to tip my curiosity in the direction of delving deeper. First attempt at finding further information regarding these photos, and this particular magazine issue ended in little success, though I was able to find what I, at the time, believed to be a correctly colorized image of this entity. See below. https://preview.redd.it/ntnngh1fo60d1.png?width=341&format=png&auto=webp&s=7685ab304637834f06c14c93b6158e23f8ed66a6 Unassuming on some random blog that attributed a name to this entity while providing no further information regarding the image itself (as certain ufological circles are want to do). Not finding further information I attempted to find further information based off of this colorized image, but to no avail. Save for one source that used this image ( in a different colorized manner, slightly less yellow and oozing with potential, that being this image by Argentinian Ufologist Dante Franch. See below. https://preview.redd.it/y99g6yhho60d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=a784d5d82998aab7784b0e0ff8507bf999b7e320 Finally, someone who might have a lead on this information! But no, once again this image is deceptively alluring as the contents of this book have absolutely nothing to do with the Sette report, but simply use its image to describe unsourced and unverified tales of the City of Erks (a wild dive on its own and may be deserving of its own post) and other entities that supposedly have a resemblance to this cover image. Upon further searches I came across this archived link with additional images some with closer to truth color, including the aforementioned first colorized image here https://web.archive.org/web/20080312200229/https://www.anomalia.org/perspectivas/fotosets/campo_cielo.htm as well as the additional references. The author of this blog post is Mexican Ufologist Luis Ruiz Noguez, notable for his skepticism and thorough investigation relating to this material, so it was a no-brainier to look into his research regarding this seeing as he had previously mentioned it here on his blogpost. So where better to look than his book "Extraterrestres ante las camaras" Volume X dealing specifically with italian encounters and purported alien photographs. But again, despite his previous notation in this blog, the contents of these images specifically are nowhere to be seen or mentioned within this book. Research stagnated for some time during the search process for the original source cited in Moreno Tambellinis book. I was able after five months (you have no idea how hard it was to find a copy) able to acquire a copy of this magazine and finally was able to determine that the previously assumed white coverall of this entities outfit has been a false notion. The following text is a translation of the pages within this issue of march 7th 1988 Sette: Corriere della Cera . 9/10, the original scans, as well as a translated text document of these pages can be found in the sources listed below. Important note: although these images are primary focus of this article, it does meander into thoughts on Whitley Striebers book "Communion" (which will be a source of contention that will be covered later in this post). But the translated post here is the relevant text to these images. "Just as we were editing a report on the UFO phenomenon that was supposed to appear on 7 at the same time as the television passage of Spielberg's film Close Encounters of the third kind, we came across a resounding surprise: the images published in these pages and on the cover of this issue. They were taken completely by chance, one summer evening in 1986, by a professor at the University of Pavia, above all suspicion and known for his balance, his intelligence and rationality, completely alien to the somewhat emphatic and vaguely bizarre world of the so-called "contactees": those people who say they have entered into a relationship with unknown entities from the cosmos." "He is a completely normal person who has always been skeptical of the reports of unidentified flying objects and is now also a testimony, erroneous to the idea that his name is related to the disturbing figure captured by his camera. The university lecturer has agreed to give us what he considers to be evidence of his shocking experience in exchange for absolute confidentiality" "What to make of these images? We can make a few assumptions. A) The author of the photos is a mystrifier. It is unlikely: too much resistance has opposed the publication of his document (which he has yielded for free to 7). In addition, he wishes to remain anonymous. A behavior that is certainly not that of those who want to speculate on a scooop, true or presumed. B) The author is the victim of a game. Someone made him take "fireflies for lanterns". A well-thought-out game, by true professionals. It is not unlikely, even if the professor is not a "contactee", one obsessed with extraterrestrials, that is, a man who could arouse "temptations" among those who know him. C) The photos really document something alien. A mysterious otherness has been captured by the professor's camera, who was the first to be surprised by this tangible presence, imprinted on the film that is absolutely different from a hallucination. What to say? What are we to think of images that forcefully re-propose the problem (or the dream, or the myth, or the nightmare) of the existence of other beings, of other civilizations that populate galaxies or dimensions unknown to us? Science continues to question these facts, but an answer is still a long way off. All experiences at the "edge of reality" are embarrassing. The line that divides science and mystery is still vague. Prudence, in these cases, is a must. And the desire not to appear is widespread among the witnesses. The professor from Pavia, who chose restriction, has an illustrious precedent." "These images, taken on a summer evening in 1986 by a professor at the University of Pavia, who asked to remain anonymous, are the subject of various hypotheses of interpretation in the text of the article. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions." Here are the direct scans of this entity as they appear in the magazine, scanned directly out of a physical copy of this magazine. (do note although these images are uploaded in different order I believe they may be sorted as such, I make no claim to the accuracy of this in terms of chronological order, but which is most aesthetically appeasing.) https://preview.redd.it/gkd3fj3oo60d1.png?width=520&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f338883f62abde93e6b1218b3191b13658dc32b https://preview.redd.it/7gc9l0uoo60d1.png?width=385&format=png&auto=webp&s=cc71696af8105b30f865affcb325b31655c17532 https://preview.redd.it/t0opnydpo60d1.png?width=388&format=png&auto=webp&s=da17154ba1e5f4943f0e38094d87819b63229d41 https://preview.redd.it/1bmptx1qo60d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=d25f5df93e493b58ed46d19b61119b539338972b https://preview.redd.it/qoaheyjqo60d1.png?width=379&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fd19b6d756df32c032ce84b2289437081695893 Now, while the article was very keen to post certain aspects of this, it was rather lacking, and it must be stated although the title of this issue, as well as the description in the article infer this is related to UFO's. There is no mention of an actual UFO or craft present within this encounter, or at the very least, this information was omitted from the article, and was potentially removed at the request of the professor in question, though that is speculation on my part. The following sections will deal with the author of this previous issue, as well as the two follow-up articles and their individual authors. There is more information present as the above text states, not from the previous issue, but from two separate follow-up articles that were saved and printed in the Italian Ufo magazine "UFO express no. 043." Link to the full untranslated issue here/UFO%20Express%20-%20No%20043.pdf). These separate addendums fully cover the images in question and are critical but not overly-so. The most important aspect to this is that the professor provided further information to Sette, primarily about what they were doing prior to this entities appearance, but also their means of photographic capture. {Page 1} UFO: Is this being from another world? read the scroll on the cover of 7 (No. 9/10) that we republish on this page. Hundreds of phone calls and letters arrived at the editorial office, and they continue to arrive after Mino Damato in his TV program Alla ricerca dell'arca (Sunday, March 27, Rai 3 8:30 p.m.) dealt with the same images, depicting a hypothetical alien photographed by a professor at the University of Pavia one summer evening in 1986. There are those who believe in this hypothetical alien and those who do not, but all of the readers who have phoned or written are bound to each other by the rejection of that question mark printed on the cover: each of them is persuaded to erase the hypothesis, to tear away the veil of the enigma. And they split into two equally intolerant parties, leaving no room for doubt. We have chosen two exemplary letters. The first letter comes from Brixen and is signed by Mr. Nicola De Paola (2 Clesia Street). He says “the alien is a tobogganist: typical are the tight suit the aerodynamic helmet, the face crushed by the transparent visor, the blurred colors and contours of the photos are due to the fact that they were taken from television, with the obj vo blurred or too close up and strange an alien with limbs, head, face and body identical to those of man; I too will be able to take photographs quite similar to those published; as a reader I feel mocked.” Others have certainly seen in the hypothetical alien: a surgeon, a nurse, an ice skater, an Icelandic firefighter, a Norwegian cryologist (sic), a KGB spy, a hockey player with his head bandaged; in short, some man in overalls or uniforms. No one has identified in the figures, despite the width of the pelvis, a woman or an androgynous. The second letter comes from Ferrara and is signed by Mr. Giovanni Mantovani (via Luigi Borsari 51). Says; When I saw the photographs I immediately thought: but look, it looks like the E.T. seen by R.M on September 2, 1987 while he was fishing on the bank of the Canal Bianco (RO). He felt an intense tingling, turned around and saw a strange individual: dark complexion, 2 meters tall, hair that looked like plastic, wearing a luminescent blue jumpsuit. The apparition lasted a few seconds.R.M. felt a chill, a feeling that was renewed at the sight of your photos... Only one remark can be made to the professor of Pavia: that of not having given the readers further clarifications about the close approach of the third type... Here are the further clarifications that the professor from Pavia has allowed us to give, although he is consumed by the fear of being uncovered and covered with ridicule. The photos were taken by a Nikon camera, with motor-drive, 55 mm lens. Micro, 3.5 aperture, shutter speed: 1/4 second Polachrome film, 40 Asa sensitivity. Shortly after the sun went down, the professor was completing some experiments on the optical perception of dogs (how does a dog see things in the world? Black and white? With what depth, in what perspective?). That alone is almost ridiculous. We were missing the hypothetical alien. A dog joke? Maybe. But the professor never solved the riddle. And dogs don't talk. ~ Paolo Pietroni {page caption} The hypothetical alien out of 7 has caused conflicting reactions. The photo was taken from a Nikon by a university lecturer while carrying out experiments on the visual perception of dogs https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Pietroni (information about this addendums author) {Page 2} Your E.T. seems to me to be a feminine being... Dear editor, I am writing to you in relation to the series of 5 photographs taken by a better identified professor of Pavia one summer evening in 1986 and which appeared in the supplement of the Corriere della Sera n. 9/10 Since I am not familiar with photographic technique, I have written down the shooting parameters communicated by you personally during Mino D'Amato's television program In Search of the Ark on March 27. Correct me if I'm wrong: Nikon camera body with motor, 5.5 mm focal length lens, aperture dia 3.5, exposure time 1/15 of a second. Certainly, with this adjustment, every little movement of the camera or of the photographed subject causes a blurred or rather blurred photograph. Probably, this whole story of the photos arose from the need of the Rizzoli Group to launch on the market the Italian version of the best American seller Communion by Ted Jacob, which deals, coincidentally, with the subject of extraterrestrials. This colossal business is also sponsored by the production of the film, which has been "posted" while waiting for the possible buyers of such a profitable product to be sufficiently sensitized... Having said this, I wish, through his kindness, to convey to the professor of Pavia my modest comments on his photos. Feminism aside, I confess that the first spontaneous observation I made on these photographs was to recognize without a shadow of a doubt a woman, or rather a female being; The conformation of the hips, the breasts, combined with the grace of the bowed pose with folded arms, unequivocally belonged to a woman. But let's get to the details. The suit - It appears so tight that it shows every little part of the body so as to give the impression of a "second skin"; It has light blue-green bands (as shown in the photo on the right on page 74) that are more evident around the neck, on the shoulders and on the arms. The hands - They appear covered by the sleeves and more elongated than ours (cover figure), dare I say w(bed. The head - Although it is more mobile, it clearly shows these elements: oval face with a slightly flattened nose, microphone with a light-colored support arm placed at the height of the left ear (photo on the right, page 74) The headset - It is completely different from any type currently built because it contains a transceiver module at the top for contact with some support organ (e.g. an operations center, or a cosmoplane, or another operator), similar to what happens in Italy when astronauts go out of their vehicle and maintain constant radio contact with the control center. The transceiver part can be seen both in the cover photo and on page 74, left and right, and is indicated by the protuberance on the top of the skull. This study was born well out of any venal or other interest, in fact I am not a ufologist, but a pilot in full flight activity and with command responsibilities; I have been a first-hand witness to the phenomenon commonly associated with the improper name of UFO Sure of the need to deal with the subject with more compatible methodologies than those promulgated by scientists and ufologists, I dedicate myself to the enhancement of aeronautical contactism, intending with this new term to redefine the sightings of military and civil pilots, aeronautical technicians, engineers, etc. who through direct experience with the phenomenon have acquired the conviction that we are not alone Only those who have had a direct impact with the phenomenon (the contactee) can provide a plausible image of themselves... everything else... They are only lucubrations born from mindsets that are not up-to-date with the present sotric moment on the one hand, and with the characteristics of the phenomenon on the other. {end of article caption} I forwarded his observations to the professor in Pavia, author of the photos depicting the hypothetical alien. Thank you for your interesting analysis. You are free to believe it or not, but the Rizzoli Communion book had an absolutely random presence in our service: we liked the design of the cover; the portrait of that E.T. and we thought of enriching the illustrations of the service. Roberto Doz (a fairly interesting individual on his own, air force colonel with his own UFO sighting) read more on that here As for the author of the original article. Their name is Nullo Cantaroni, and may be more well known by his wife Bice Cairati( Sveva Casati Modigiani), Nullo Cantaroni had a fairly successful journalistic career, dealing primarily in medicine as co-authorized by fellow science journalist Severina Cantaroni. He eventually succumbed to Parkinson's disease. I make mention of these authors, Roberto Doz (who has a very good reason to be interested in the topic as he had his own experience). As well as the other two as these are not the ramblings of some crazy pumping out their own versions of weekly world news, but were and still are highly credible and respected peoples, whom by their own association are taking the flak for posting this material to begin with. From here on out, this is going to be a further dive into the already presented material, some comparisons with other cases which have direct correlation with these images, as well as other information during my research that has not been touched on up until this point. In the first follow-up article there is mention of a show "Alla Ricera dell'arca (In search of the ARK)". With he show discussing the images posted here. I was able to confirm that this episode does exist, with the covered material, and is within the RAI archives (Italian TV network/station). However, they would not lend the episode out to a non-Italian citizen, or someone associated with a University, or media conglomeration. I mention this as there may be more material covered in this episode that was not provided in the main article and its follow-ups. If there are any Italian citizens, or peoples reading this who have the appropriate accreditation to acquire a copy of this episode I would ask for your cooperation in attempting to do so. If someone has a copy of this simply recorded off of an old VHS I implore you to make that available to all. Going back to the main article, the meandering to Communion is certainly off-putting, though I disagree with the previous mention that this was a hoax on the part of the publication to push Communion. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence after all (even though Carl Sagan never bothered with the evidence, side tangent: listen to J Allen Hynek talk about that here) But I believe these images were published in good faith on part of Nullo Cantaroni, his background and thorough career would make this unlikely. So as it figures there are three scenarios here that describe this scenario (in no particular order of likelihood) 1) these images are hoaxed by the publication to push communion 2) these images are hoaxed by the supposed professor 3) these images are legitimate and provide evidence of a non-earth based entity. Before I move on I'd like to mention that I did attempt to reach out to Corriere della Sera multiple times regarding this material but was never given a response. To round this off the images themselves. Humanoid obviously, female-appearing, now I say appearing because assuming this really is some unexpected entity, there is no guarantee that the physiology of this figure accurately represents its determination, and although this entity appears to have what we'd consider to be skin, that may only be a covering to another form or may be some type of robotic synthetic life-form designed specifically to mimic human appearances. What may be most interesting or most alarming depending on your perspective is this entities face appears to change between shots, and yet seemingly keeps the same body proportions. If you are of the opinion this is some type of hoax you could state this is an obvious inconsistency between shots. On the other hand, that is an obvious conclusion to make and showing differentiating faces would be a rather odd choice on the part of a hoaxer. This again could be part of the photographing process, as there is motion blur between some of these photos and it simply gives an appearance that things are changing. There are other features which must be touched upon, namely the clothing, but in one such photo, what appears to be some type of headgear wrapped around this entities face. To anyone with a passing knowledge of ufology and its associated lore would know, the favorite of any interstellar interloper is the tight formfitting bodysuit. Primarily described as blue, although other colors are often reported. But unlike most humanoid encounters described in the west, this entity seems to have a darker complexion about them. Now does that mean this does not fit in with established prior encounters? Not at all, for whatever reason the blonde-hair nordic is the most popular discussion topic when it comes to human-adjacent lifeforms, but in other places, and Italy especially, some of their most well know or most covered, feature entities with darker complexions. Case in point https://preview.redd.it/6e3ymfuxo60d1.jpg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c77b73123544adddbf17bacb780841cd81a61a6b This encounter in 1978 Italy with a dark-skinned entity in a shimmering scaled suit. Or this description of a dark skinned entity with a similar described blue suit reported in 1987 Location. Villamarzana, Rome, Italy Date: September 2 1987 Time: 1700 Renzo Munari was fishing on the Bianco Canal when he noticed a strange object flying at a moderated speed over the river, as the object disappeared from sight he felt a strange prickling sensation in his body, resembling electrical static. Turning around he saw a very tall human-like figure staring intently at him. The figure was at least 2 meters in height, with orange hair and dark skin. He wore a luminous blue colored tight fitting coverall. On the left side of his chest there was a square orange colored “tag.” During the encounter the witness felt a cool wave of air and light headed. The figure apparently disappeared into the brush. Source: Archivio SUF, USOCAT by The Italian Center forUFO Studies (CISU) There is also this report from 1989 Russia Location. Salsk, Rostov region, Russia Date: August 13 1989 Time: 2300 Working at a cotton irrigation plant Vasiliy Ivanovich suddenly experienced total equipment failure without any apparent cause. While searching for the cause of the breakdown, the witness heard a loud voice, “He is searching for the cause”. Looking around he saw four humanoids standing close to him. One stood in the front, while the other three stood in the back. He described the humanoids as tall, with long dangling arms, with a large head, flattened on the top and wide at the temples. The humanoids are dark red or brown in color with large egg-shaped eyes and two holes instead of a nose. They have no lips, and thin strip instead of a mouth. They were wearing truncated shiny blue coveralls and footwear. The humanoid standing at the front of the others held a box in his hand and a soft pleasant voice seemed to emanate from the box. He held the box at stomach level. Ivanovich approached the humanoids and asked who they were; the reply was a question asking him if he wanted to go with them. At this point the witness saw a light at the edge of the nearby woods and a hovering object. The humanoids then floated slowly towards the craft and disappeared. Terrified the witness ran to the village to notify other witnesses but upon returning to the site the humanoids had already left. Source:UFOZONE Russia As for the headgear, there is a report from 1995 Italy of an entity not resembling this one in this post, but wearing a similarly described headpiece. Location: Ancona, Italy Date: February 3 1994, Time: 9:00am Six witnesses, including a Mr. Giulo observed a strange humanoid wandering around some nearby rocks. The humanoid was described as about 1 meter and a half in height, wearing a tight fitting black coverall that covered his whole body including a pair of very long feet. The face was elongated with two huge round eyes, with round black pupils. It appeared to be wearing earphones with a small thin protruding antenna. It seemed to stagger slowly and after about 10 minutes it rose up slowly and vertically into the air, quickly disappearing from sight Source: CISU Italy. There is also this case from Barisciano Italy 1978 in which an entity bearing a striking similar blue color to the outfit was seen, with an adorning white "cap" or hairpiece that resembled that of a cap. read the untranslated version of that encounter here/Notiziario%20UFO%20-%201984%2001-02%20-%20Vol%2018%20No%20102.pdf) https://preview.redd.it/21kjohdup60d1.png?width=310&format=png&auto=webp&s=177c364d88aa666573433fc2510a448ad4847398 Finally, lets get back to the person allegedly behind this whole spiel, the Professor. A claim such as this, where an entity appears in ones presence without any known means is a stark claim all on its own, to provide photos of such an encounter is another thing all together, but being as its an anonymous person, how can we gleam any credibility out of this? To put it in other words, is there enough information provided within the original article as well as the follow-up articles to speculate on a potential identity to who this man could have been? Emphatically yes, infact there is only one such individual who fits the criteria with the information provided, granted this information was given after the fact of the original articles publication. In the first article within UFO express that discusses this, we are told this person is running experiments relating to dogs (canine) eyesight, but the author was unsure whether or not this is a jest of some sort. I do not believe it is, in the secondary article it is again mentioned that this professor is working with canine eyesight, but in a caption on the second page it is emphasized this was "non-academic research". Now does that mean it was unrelated to their professional focus? No, it simply means this research was carried outside of official means. This leads me to who I believe the primary suspect is in terms of a potential identity, could there be other more accurate people? Perhaps. But this persons tenure and level of research within this subject and the timeframe of when they were working at the University of Pavia lines up perfectly with who this person could be. However, because of doxxing concerns, and that they initially requested complete anonymity from the publication I will not be directly naming their identity here. But I will heavily state that this person worked in the university of Pavia from 1985 in the zoology department and specifically with foxes and wolves. With this person having worked and published (into the present) works related to both of these fields. I have attempted to personally reach out to this professor both via email & telephone (their academic numbers, not personal) but have received no response. I would ask that if you do look into who this person is that you do not attempt to directly contact them as their lack of a response is response enough. What was the encounter like? How long did it go on for? Was there a conversation or was this a quick in and out? These questions and more are not answered here, and perhaps never will be unless someone; the professor, an associate, or anyone else, comes forward with more details we are left wondering and wanting more. Sources and resources used Archive link for translations and scans of original Corriere della Sera article https://archive.org/details/Paviaentity Magazine and other ufological material sources: https://files.afu.se/Downloads/?dir=./ Document scanner for afu and other documents/sites https://updb.app/ alieni in italia by Moreno Tambelini ImgOps for reverse image searching https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/sys/text.htm & Albert Rosales for their compilations of humanoid encounters. If you have had an encounter or know someone who has had an encounter similar to this or identical to this, do not hesitate to DM or message me with the details. |
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