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*I'm not so sure if this is necessarily for this channel, but since there is a political piece to it, I'm going to share it here*
A short five days ago, Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker was asked to give a speech to the graduates of Benedictine College. Most of these students likely never got a high school graduation because of COVID, so this was obviously a monumental moment for these young adults' lives. All the hard work and all the perseverance through difficult and uncertain times led to that graduation ceremony. Instead of that day being remembered for the students walking across the stage receiving their hard-earned degrees while the families cheer with high emotions reflecting on the journey to this moment, their ceremony will be remembered for the message that an NFL player sent to these graduates which, in my opinion, was inappropriate, lacked decorum, and made a lot of people's blood boil.
I will preface the rest of this text by saying that I do not condone religious slander and am a firm believer that every religion deserves respect.
Harrison discussed things in his speech that you should never be brought up when addressing college graduates in a formal setting like that, and it doesn't take a wise person to know this. Here are just a couple of talking points that simply had me scratching my head wondering if I was listening to a graduation speech or a Talking Point USA video on YouTube:

1. For the female graduates, you are being fed nothing but sinister lies about womanhood and how you should live your life. Having your own aspirations and career goals and finally being a step closer to achieving them is not what you should be most excited about. You should be more excited about dedicating your lives to being a mother to your future children, and a wife to your future husband!

Harrison, I'm not sure if you are aware but your target audience is mostly between the ages of 21 and 23. Also, people don't go to college and take on thousands in student debt because they just wanna marry and have a family; that's just not how that shit works. There are no degrees for homemaking. It seems slightly misogynistic to me that you think women live the most fulfilling lives when they center their entire adult lives around being a "servant" to their husbands and children. I really don't understand why husbands wouldn't want their wives to focus on following their dreams and becoming super successful.

1. The POTUS claims he's a proud Catholic but his delusional "woke" ideologies suggest otherwise.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize advocating for the minorities, the poor, and the voiceless was an anti-Catholic thing to do. I get it, Biden is far from perfect and has done plenty of questionable things. He is allowed to have his beliefs and you are allowed to have yours, and that applies to everyone. For you to question his faith because his beliefs don't fall exactly in line with yours is disrespectful. For you to bring all of this up at a college graduation while spreading misinformation is also unprofessional. The NFL blesses you with millions of dollars and you choose to represent them in this manner?

1. "Congress just passed a bill where stating something as basic as the biblical teaching of who killed Jesus could land you in jail."

What? What the hell are you talking about? Do you think others think religion is hate speech? Listen, I know that some folks don't like that the LGBTQ+ community is trying to be fairly represented and viewed as actual human beings, but that doesn't mean that they're trying to take your religion away from you. The First Amendment still exists and it's not going anywhere soon. Please do not delude yourself into thinking that your religious beliefs can get you prosecuted; believe it or not, Christianity and Catholicism still are (and have been) the most popular religions in the U.S. for a long time.
Christianity and Catholicism have most certainly faced scrutiny in the past few years. It's not necessarily the religion itself that has caused it, it's more so the followers and preachers of God's word who have faced heavy backlash; Harrison is the most recent example. Again, it is totally okay for someone to believe in any religion. It doesn't make you a bad person. Where it crosses the line is when you attempt to demean, harass, and dehumanize or even force your beliefs onto others who do not believe what you believe. We have seen this with Congress, with state representatives, with Democrats and Republicans, with those who simply don't have the human decency to respect their differences.
There is so much political divide in large part due to the divisiveness of the two-party system. You're either on one side or the other at this point. The reality is this: change is scary. We can either move forward towards a better and stronger America or we can get stuck in the past with what doesn't make us great. Harrison's speech reminded me of how easy it is to disrespect someone's point of view when it doesn't align with your own. I think my assessment of his talk might have been a little unfair in that regard. For those of you who made it to the end, regardless of your political beliefs, let's accept the fact that we have differing opinions. I may question certain beliefs and ideologies, but at the end of the day, I do respect that you believe in what you want to believe in. Please do not let your opinions cause physical or mental harm to another person. For those of you who plan on giving a speech at a college graduation ceremony, please leave politics out of your speech. Graduation is a highly emotional time in a college student's life. This is a time for reflection, for family, for pride, and for optimism, not for political opinions and fearmongering.
TL;DR: politics and personal opinions on matters unrelated to college do not belong in a college graduation speech. Harrison Butker did not get this memo and has gone viral for his remarks during his speech at Benedictine College. We all tend to get defensive of our beliefs and I am no exception to this.

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Originally chronicled here.
I am not the OOP. OOP is u/Lost_Beginning_2824
This was originally posted in TrueOffMyChest
2 updates
(recovered via pushpull)
Original post - February 6th, 2024
1st Update - February 28th, 2024
2nd Update - March 8th, 2024
Trigger warning: mention of domestic violence situation
I’m married to a woman who acts like a teenage girl – February 6th, 2024
My wife behaves like a teenage girl and I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
This is just a rant. Curious to know how many full grown adults behave the way my wife does. I’d say out of all of the adult women I know, like friends, relatives, wives of my friends, none of them behave this way unless they keep it a closely guarded secret.
Editing right here to add that my wife is in her 30s, for context.
My wife is always obsessed with somebody, a man or sometimes multiple men at one time. Usually there is one or two main focuses at a time. When I talk obsessed I mean obsessed like a teenage girl or maybe even preteen girl would be. I’ve seen pictures of her bedroom when she was that age and they were literally wallpapers in posters of her favorite guys. That’s totally normal for a 13 year old girl. She still behaves that way as a woman in her 30s. Granted, our bedroom walls aren’t wallpapered in posters but they probably would be if I allowed it.
Her obsessions have ranged from rock stars, actors, non-entertainment industry public figures. It’s like one day she hasn’t even heard of the guy in question and the next day she’s super fan #1 and knows just about everything there is to know about him. She will read and watch everything there is to watch about the man. She will bring him up in every conversation. She will adopt parts of him into her own personality. She will suggest things that make it clear to me that she wants me to adopt characteristics of these men as part of my appearance or personality. She will openly admit to me that she’s masturbated over the guy multiple times in one day.
When she finds a new man to obsess over, she puts the others in her little stable of men who she always has a place for in her heart and in her fantasies, so they never really go away. The new man just takes center stage and becomes the main focus of almost her entire life.
So the current obsession is so strange to me. Never saw this one coming, but leave it to her to always find somebody new to fall in love with. The intensity that she has during these periods - it’s honestly like she falls in love with these men.
I’m laughing so hard just typing this all. Her current obsession is Bret Hart, former pro wrestler. This woman had never watched wrestling before in her life. Always thought that stuff was below her. And now she’s obsessed with this former pro-wrestler. She watched one show about him, for reasons I’m not aware of, and I could tell almost instantly where it was headed. I thought “here we go…” So now the Bret Hart obsession is in full swing. Has she already dropped close to $1000 in vintage Bret Hart shirts on eBay? Of course. Bought all the stickers and magnets and all sorts of other stupid crap she can find? Yep. Does she send me Bret Hart YouTube clips all.day.long when she’s supposed to be working? Yes she does.
So, I better get to work brushing up on my Bret Hart knowledge and tag lines. This is the key to getting laid when it comes to her. I’m used to this by now. It’s just not something that I can easily explain to anyone I know.
I mean, there’s are things I’m a fan of, but she is next level. I can’t think of anyone I know who is her age and acts like this. She was voted most likely to grow up and become a groupie when she was in high school, so this is absolutely nothing new for her. Sigh.
Many are lighthearted in the comments
plastic_Schedule_891
I mean he's the best there is, was and ever will be so that one makes sense at least .
You don’t think I’m hearing that 10 times a day now?
I better start planning that trip to Calgary.
Limerence is mentioned
poopchutethemoon
Yeah my bouts of limerence have been with people I’ve dated but reading that made me realize that I was very much being obsessive and it was totally all consuming. Glad it’s over honestly. Those feelings are exhausting.
Very interesting to hear you say the feelings are exhausting. It’s like a full time job for my wife, so I could see that. She told me she’s at work with her door closed pretending to be working, but she’s really watching Bret Hart videos on YouTube. She can’t even focus on her job.
OOP reveals more of the life he’s signed up for in the comments
get-bread-not-head
You've pretended to act like other men for 20 years?!
Damn dude, I hope you're finding ways to accept it and cope. That sounds rough, having to be someone else to have sex... stay strong king
Nah, I just learn their catchphrases or gain some deep fan knowledge that’ll impress her or maybe perfect a vocal impersonation of them that I can drop at the opportune time. The vocal impersonations work the best as far as making her like me and being like “ok, wanna have sex now?”
another_canoe
But what do you guys actually share *together*? That's not related to the obsession of the season? (I'm not going to even bother asking if she's tried to learn about any of your hobbies/interests).
NGL, this is all pretty grim to me, my man....and I'm someone who loves having a partner who is passionate about things and nerds out.
I fear that you've spent so long with her infatuations steamrolling over your own interests and preferences that you have convinced yourself that getting attention-by-proxy as your main source of validation from your SPOUSE is a healthy way to live.
If I told you that I was big into anime and Japanese RPGs and the only way I get interested in doing it with my actual wife is if she adopts the catch phrases /personality characteristics of my latest "waifu", would you feel some concern for my wife's mental health?
I'm also wondering about this spending....
She’s pretty dismissive of my interests and hobbies. I’ve told her I’d like her to try to pretend to show a little more interest sometimes. I make an effort to show real interest in her stuff and she does not do the same. I’m very into music and I do geek out over guitars and gear and things like that and she couldn’t tell you anything about any of the guitars I own other than “he has a blue one, he has a red one. “ We do love some of the same bands. Of course she wants to fuck the band members and I just want to talk about the chord progression on my favorite guitar tracks, but it’s close enough. We like a lot of the same movies and that sort of thing. We have the same sense of humor and can keep each other laughing for ages. We have a lot of the same views on life and on the world in general.
I don’t know, we just get each other I guess.
I would be concerned about the waifu thing, but I guess in my case she always likes guys who I think are pretty cool anyway. She has good taste, at least. If she has to be obsessing over some other guy constantly at least she does it over guys I can respect on some level.
Regarding the spending, I spend way more than she does. Only difference is it’s not usually fan merch I’m buying. But she tolerate my spending when it comes to stuff like guitar gear. She rolls her eyes and reprimands me but she tolerates it and just knows I won’t stop. I’m the same when it comes to her fan stuff. I get it, she wants the vintage 1993 Bret Hart shirt that costs hundreds…not a modern shirt that just anyone could go online and buy for $25 right now. She wants the cool, rare stuff. I’m the same with my guitars so I guess it’s like we understand each other in some way. I think it’s weird to become a fan of somebody and 2 days later drop thousands on them though. At least my money pit is consistent.
I think we both feel like we’re the only person who will semi understand and tolerate all of this stuff from each other
Not included here, but in several comments, OOP definitely brings up his wife’s looks as a positive in the relationship and he finds her antics at times amusing or even attractive.
1st Update - February 28th, 2024
I recently wrote about my wife suddenly discovering former pro-wrestler Bret “The Hitman” Hart one day after never even knowing of his existence, experienced love at first site, and is now even deeper than love with him then she was a month ago.
Tonight, I experienced a good hour of her sobbing, literal sobs, after watching the Bret Hart A&E biography. “I just love him so much. I love him with all my heart. I don’t want any more bad things to happen to him. Also, I’m very jealous he’s not my husband.”
She also went from not wanting any kids to suddenly wanting a baby so she can name it Bret (a girl or a boy, doesn’t matter…they will be named Bret). And she almost had me convinced, but I blame that on the heat of the moment.
She’s bought all sorts of clothes just like his. My wife now dresses like Bret Hart in and outside of the ring.
The past few days she’s been acting really annoyed with me. Finally I’m like “Wtf am I doing wrong?” I bought you Bret Hart stuff for your birthday! I call you Mrs. Bret Hart now, even though you’re my wife. I even sent you flowers at work from Bret. I mean that was supposed to get me points because she knew they were from me and I was playing into her obsession which she’s now apparently shared with everyone she works with. They’ve bought her a giant Bret Hart wall decal for her office.
Ok, so I did forget our anniversary which was very recently. Totally forgot it. Then again, so did she. She was too busy masturbating over Bret Hart to remember our wedding anniversary. I mean bad husband points for me obviously but all the birthday gifts had to have made up for it. I mean, I even ordered a Bret Hart birthday banner and got her a Bret Hart themed birthday cake as if she were a 7 year old boy in the year 1994.
So why is she acting so annoyed lately? Why does she act like she hates me and can’t stand to even be in the same room as me? She finally admits…I’m not Bret Hart. None of her obsession have ever been this bad. She’s seriously threatening me with divorce now because I’m not Bret Hart! She “just wants a guy like that.” She had to go walk the dog today and cry over it, how much she hates me and wishes she was married to Bret Hart. Oh fuck me you want a guy like your dad because that’s what Bret Hart is like…exactly like her dad, the same look, the same hair, the same damn age.
I told her I think she should get checked out for autism or some other sort of disorder. Her obsessions have never been this bad. She should make an appointment now because the waitlist is long. She just laughed. There’s nothing wrong with her. She just has different taste in men now, according to her.
Some comments
psychick
Therapist here - she needs to see a psychiatrist. This is mental illness to the extreme. Either she goes, or you leave. This is ultimatum territory. And, stop giving into her obsession. It makes it worse.
nualt42
Man, when she threatens divorce, take it. Jump at the chance.
Hell, sit, be a good boy and offer your fucking paw if that’s what it takes to get treated to an exit strategy. Don’t worry about dignity, sounds like you gave that up a long time ago.
She’s even looked up the divorce process for where we live and says we can be amicable about everything. She assures me she’s not looking to take any thing that is rightfully mine. She just wants a clean break.
Sophie3546
I’m surprised he even lasted this long. Calling her “Ms. Bret Hart” …..I can’t even fathom.
Excuse me, it’s MRS Bret Hart, not Ms.
NEW UPDATE - March 8th, 2024
Hi, you might remember me as the guy whose wife was obsessed with JFK (35th President of the United States), then experienced a world wind romance with former WWF pro-wrestler Bret Hart (the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be), but now she’s met a new man. I thought the Bret Hart obsession was the worst one yet. Never has she threatened divorce or told me she hated me because I wasn’t the object of her desire. Luckily, that was a relatively quick love affair for her. 3-4 months is a short run for her and one of her men. But I should be careful what I wish for.
This new one is the first time I’ve felt that I should maybe, just possibly, feel legitimately scared. Her newly developing obsession is Patrick Bateman. Yep, the character from American Psycho. Specifically, the movie version played by Christian Bale.
It’s not like she’s just met the guy. She’s seen the movie before but it doesn’t appear that they hit it off initially. Now, she’s suddenly started making constant reference to him. Bret is gone and now it’s just Patrick Bateman and maniacal laughter and purchasing all of the items in his skin care routine. I’d like to see her do 1000 crunches though. That’ll be the day.
She has always admitted to living the 80s preppy/yuppie look. She loves assholes. Assholes are a weakness for her. Psychopaths? Hmm…that’s a new one, unless you count the time she was in love with the Menendez Brothers years ago. God, the pastel Ralph Lauren sweaters she used to try to make me wear. Pastels are just not my shades.
Now, there was a time many years ago where I did have to hide all the knives in our home. I was legitimately scared that she was going to murder me. I forget what she was upset about now. I am, after all, her type - an asshole. I did something that bothered her and she ran for the knives. I had to hide them and then lock myself in a bedroom because she was literally chasing me. That was before she decided that she’d be the female Patrick Bateman. Granted, she says “only mean in the looks and snob department-nothing else.”
She’s trying to determine what the female equivalent to a Patrick Bateman hairstyle would be right now. I’m just worried about the bank account with this obsession. The amount she’ll spend on business cards alone.
Comments
lemonade_sparkle
Your wife is severely mentally ill, and needs help quickly.
Is there no chance of persuading her to get help?
If not, what preparations have you made to leave her?
I’m a strange way, I think these obsessions are what keep her sane.
Her getting help is funny though. It’s not going to happen. Sure I’ve tried to persuade her to see a therapist but she just won’t.
ctIaTErA
I probably shouldn’t be laughing as hard as I am right now. This is truly bizarre. Does she narrate her morning routine in the mirror each day now?
But in all seriousness, she’s chased you with a knife? Thats far more concerning than any of the obsessions with these men, and yes I did read the post about the wrestler. I thought it was just very quirky behavior before, but she seems truly unhinged now.
It was years ago. Like 10+ years ago. I’m much stronger than her so it’s not hard to hold her down if need be.
I AM NOT OOP
NO BRIGADING, NO HARASSMENT

An open letter to Benedictine College and Harrison Butker
I first came across the Harrison Butker’s 2025 commencement speech at Benedictine College on Twitter. It was a short snippet of the speech and I was in disbelief of what I heard. Intrigued, I went to YouTube to find a recording of the whole speech before drawing further conclusions. Now, I am nearly beyond words.
I grew up in the Catholic Church, attended a Catholic high school, and do still consider myself to be Catholic, although not without my own qualms with the church. However, this is not about that. I am also a more recent college graduate. I graduated from a large public university 5 years ago and am looking forward to obtaining my graduate degree next year, both degrees I have worked incredibly hard for and am immensely proud of. I don’t remember my own commencement speech, but if it was anything like this, I am glad I don’t- I loved my undergraduate experience and will be proud to have my diploma framed and hanging one day. Harrison Butker’s speech is condescending, out of touch, and against the very values of your school. You both, Benedictine College and Harrison Butker, owe these graduating students an apology.
As a proudly Catholic college, I do not hold issue you or your choice in speaker with promoting Catholicism and the beliefs of the Catholic Church, even in regard to politics; while I may not agree, that is your choice to do so and one that underlies the foundation of your school.
The class of 2025, as with many recent graduates and current students, have had to work through a unique set of hardships as a whole, beyond the personal hardships we all face. Mr. Butker is not a recent graduate, nor is he working directly with a school or university. College is a change for everyone from high school, with the course load, schedule, and independence, but beyond the nervousness and uncertainty that comes with this new phase, students are able to rely on the fact that since its inception, the college experience has been relatively stable, until the COVID-19 pandemic. Students, and faculty, were forced to rapidly adapt to a situation that we knew very little about and had no history to guide us. To minimize that, say that “it is not unique,” especially as someone who was not experiencing it from an educational aspect, is disrespectful to students and faculty, regardless of beliefs on the issue. Pandemics are not new, nor are controversial policies, but what these students faced, was new. I know of no other time during our history, where thousands of students were nearly overnight told to immediately leave their housing and worry about their finances and shelter as not everyone has the means to find new housing or go back to their parents, have food outside of the dinings halls, or access to a computer and internet to complete their coursework where they had planned on attending in person or using university resources, when these things are apart of what students pay thousands of dollars for or take loans to afford as part of their college expenses. Whether or not you support these policies and changes, that does not lessen the unique hardships faced or make a student wrong for adhering to them when failure to do so could result in greater consequences. If there is another time where this has happened, I am happy to be referred so that I can learn. It is one thing to say that the feelings of uncertainty and anxiety around new policies and adapting to them are not unique, but another to say that the challenges these students faced as a result of policy is not unique, it is disrespectful, condescending, and completely out of place as someone who did not experience it.
Beyond this, it is even more disrespectful to diminish the accomplishments of particularly the female graduates of your university by allowing your speaker to advocate forgoing using their degree and instead, choose being a wife and mother. To Benedictine College, if this is what your school advocates, then why charge tuition to your female students? How will they pay for it or pay off their loans for it? Do you expect your female graduates to marry a man who will pay off their debts? What happens if they don’t or if they choose a vocation in religious life, are their debts forgiven? To take it a step further, why admit female students at all if their degree is not meant to be used? A yearly tuition of $35,000 seems a greedy ask to attain what becomes a useless degree. Maybe this is not something you support, but I have yet to see any statement indicating dissent with this position. The Benedictine sisterhood and St. Scholastica, its founder, take pride in education and she herself do not choose the vocation of marriage. How would St. Scholastica be able to attend your college when she found her vocation to be in the religious life? To Harrison Butker, how dare you? I am happy for you and your family that your wife can be a homemaker if that’s what she wants to do, but that is completely out of touch for what nearly all of these students will face as they graduate. Your family can comfortably live on just your salary of over $4 million per year, but you are a minority in this situation. You speak of not allowing cost of living to prohibiting where you live, but with your salary, I’m sure there are few areas you cannot find suitable housing and access to food. Is one supposed to choose to live in circumstances where they do not have a stable shelter in favor of a more traditional priest? Earlier in your speech you mention “accepting your lane and staying in it,” I believe you should have taken your own advice, because your lane is far wealthier than mine and likely all of the graduates you are speaking to. Most families will need two salaries to live in even a fraction of the comfort you live and even then, may not be comfortable. From what I understand, you went to GT on a scholarship, another minority, factor in student loans, and the comfort fraction becomes even smaller. Should a family live in a constant state of worry about money so that a woman can be a homemaker? You spoke of charity and the platform God has given you, but I do not see you using your wealth for charitable acts to support the lifestyle you advocate in these graduates. You decide to speak for women and presume they are most excited at the prospect of marriage and children when you are speaking to congratulate them on a major accomplishment that has little to do with their future as a wife or mother. Can a woman not find fulfillment and a calling as a valuable member of the workforce and a wife and mother. As a woman who anticipates graduating from medical school in one year, is being a doctor not part of God’s plan for me? As I understand it, my vocation, is not between being a wife and mother or being a doctor, but of the calling to serve as a married, single, or religious person. You make it seem as though I cannot be both a doctor and family woman one day. You make remarks about controlling how and when children are conceived. You condemn IVF and surrogacy when a large portion of woman and men in this country struggle with infertility or health conditions making a pregnancy incredibly dangerous. If a woman cannot naturally have a child then is she not to be a mother? Do you also condemn adoption as it a choice and controlled method of becoming a parent? Is it only if a woman is unable to conceive naturally that it is acceptable to work rather than be a homemaker? I have always been taught in my experience with the Catholic Church to welcome children into your life whenever they come about, not as a barrier to being a working mom. You have laid out the options as black or white, mother or worker, when I believe the advice is to be open to and welcome God’s plan for you in both areas of your life. Not only do you advocate for the females graduates to forgo the workforce when this is an unrealistic path for most, but in doing so, you add extra pressure to the male graduates to provide in an unrealistic way. At what cost do men take higher paying jobs they are unhappy in so that their wives can be homemakers? You have worked hard to get to where you are, say you are doing something you love, and are able to show the fruits of that labor, should these graduates not show all of the knowledge and skills they have gained through earning their degree?
To Harrison Butker, I, too, am Catholic. I believe we also are similar in that we question right from wrong and do not just blindly accept the things that are fed to us. You say that our priests and bishops are anointed by God, but quickly question that anointing. I now question you, in who you are to question who has been anointed by God. You point out it is your duty as a father to lead your son. In our faith, we call our priests Father, but you call us to question and right them, should they not lead us? Should we not follow the quote you use of trusting our priests to translate the teachings of the Bible for us? Does your son question you and what is your response? You call for priests and bishops to be righted but also to stay in our lane. I do not mean to support the actions of our church leaders either way, but as an individual am not following what you ask of these graduates.
To Harrison Butker, you say you speak from experience, but it seems your experiences are vastly different than most of the graduates you speak to. Your statements contradict one another, in questioning our church leaders, staying in our lane, and even speaking of your wife as someone who converted to Catholicism but later question being with someone of a different faith, not allowing for change. As I have stated before, it is one thing to speak of shared feelings, but another to speak of a shared experience. You give advice in black or white rather than ideas for consideration and reflection. Listening to your commencement speech, I can’t imagine I would have found excitement for the future and wisdom as I start to move forward on my own. Had this been my speech to give, I couldn’t speak to a lot of the challenges these students faced, but can empathize with the fears of stepping out of the student life and uncertainty about my future. I could speak to how being able to adapt to challenges, facing hardship in my own way has made me strong and able to persevere and that they too have grown to be stronger and able to persevere too, even if they are not confident. I could speak to how money is not always the most important thing in life, your church, your family, your community are all things to reflect on when making decisions about the future. But, this was not my speech, it was yours. My ideas may not be right, maybe it has more “fluff” than yours, but they do not tell me the right or wrong way to live my life, as that is between me and God.
To Benedictine College, much of this is address to Harrison Butker. However, this is the person you chose and supported in giving a commencement speech. What is address to him, is also a reflection of what you support and believe, and the message you hope to send your graduates off with. I am not one of your graduates, happy to say I am not with this speech, but at least for me, this is the representation I have of your school.
To Benedictine College and Harrison Butker, you both owe the graduates an apology for these disrespectful and confusing sentiments as they enter a new and stressful chapter of their lives.
To the Benedictine College class of 2025, congratulations!

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This is a detailed post, so bear with me. The following doesn't entail the entirety of me, but is a close approximation.
Age: 27 female
Height: 5 2"
Weight: 61 kgs
Caste: Kashmiri Butt
Sunni, practicing Muslims
Single, never married or engaged
City: Lahore.
Whether you’re in Pakistan or reside abroad, I’d prefer if you’re originally from (primarily) Lahore (or Islamabad), so the family meetups are much easier and there’s a cultural similarity too.
Education: BS (Honors) in Applied Psychology and Master's in Clinical Psychology.
Profession: Mental Health Counsellor
Family: We're 3 siblings including me. One brother, one sister. Mother is housewife. Father is retired from work.
Do you want kids? – Yes of course. But I’d like to wait at least a year and half (minimum) or more to settle into the marriage first, develop a bond with my spouse, understand each other and then get into the role of a parent, which is a huge responsibility as is.
Religiosity – I’m a practicing Muslim. Although I’m clearly not perfect, I do pray at least 4 times, do obligatory fasts, do hijab, dress modestly, listen to lectures of Mufti Menk, Dr. Omar Sulieman, Ustad Nouman Ali Khan, Youth Club, Dr. Yasir Qadhi and many others to become a better Muslim and a better human everyday. I’m modest but not an extremist/conservative by any means and like to stay open-minded.
I’m a Sunni Muslim. We don’t celebrate Milaad, khatam or any other bid’ah or shirk etc. I want someone with similar Aqeedah.
Deal Breakers:

• Poor personal hygiene
• Taller than 6 feet (too tall for me). But this one is still negotiable for the right person.
• Being younger than me
• Drinking, smoking or any kind of substance use in the past or present.
• Me having to live with in-laws after marriage
• Celebrating milad, khatams, and other bid'ah or shirk, etc.
• Controlling personality, anger management issues. Any paranoid or suspicious tendencies.
• Someone who’s not willing to help his wife at all in the house (for whatever reason)
• Not respecting women and treating them like house maids or mere babymakers.
• Not concerned with whether you earn halal or haram.
• Bringing trauma-responses, dysfunctional coping mechanisms/ baggage from previous relationships.
• Forcing wife to work after marriage or stay home.

Ideal marriage timeline – Around 1 ish year, but that can be mutually decided.
Important characteristics in a prospect
· Education: At least BS Honors or higher
· Age: somebody older than me
· Good personal hygiene and discipline – It should go without saying, but I want someone who takes good care of his personal hygiene, is organized and disciplined in life.
· Self-sufficient – I acknowledge that women are nurturers. Having said that, I’d highly value a spouse who is not shy to help around in house chores and is able to manage himself well. I’ve seen many husbands being “dependent” on their wives for the smallest things, and it doesn’t sit well with me. He should be able to take care of his own self and personal tasks if need be. Yes, women are carers, but everything in moderation, including moderation!
· Balance of Deen and Duniya – I’d really like my spouse praying daily, being God-fearing and trying to learn more about Deen in general. Bottom line, the basic pillars of Islam should be there. I’m not looking for perfection, (I’m far from it myself), but he should prioritize religious and moral values in his life and have a strong moral compass in general. I don’t want the typical molvi kind, rather someone educated on true Islam. Nothing extreme or conservative. I’d also want my partner to have good Ikhlaaq; so he’s easy to talk to and has good relationships with people around him. Humility is the greatest virtue, and I believe that true Deen is always reflected in one’s good character, not the obligatory prayer or fasts.
· Having Perspective and being far-sighted - Someone who values character, meaningful connection and personality compatibility more than running solely after typical appearance ideals. Those things fade and marriage is for the long haul anyways.
· Sense of emotional safety – There should be a sense of emotional safety with my spouse. That is, he respects mine and others’ opinions, is open-minded, is patient and tolerates a difference of opinion. Someone with whom I can feel truly heard and express myself without fear of judgement. Someone who is kind, compassionate, honest and doesn’t have anger issues or conservative thinking.
· Clear communication – There are few things I value more than good communication skills. He should be able to communicate in English or can at least reciprocate me (No, I’m not Shakespeare). More importantly, someone who is able to articulate his thoughts and feelings openly and is willing to have difficult conversations without stonewalling.
· Freedom – Freedom is my strongest core value. I want to feel free and autonomous around my spouse, i.e. to feel a sense of psychological safety around him and not feel caged. I’d really appreciate the freedom to work or choose to stay at home.
· Nuclear family - I'm a strong proponent of a nuclear family, i.e. husband, wife and their kids, which is conducive to mental health of all parties involved (as supported by our religion as well). I’ve personally seen and heard enough horror stories. Joint family system is the breeding ground for many domestic problems and inevitable conflicts. So, I’d really appreciate someone who understands this (without being offended) and can provide a nuclear family setup. Rented house is okay, so long as it's separate.
· Emotional availability – That is, he is able to listen to others, empathize, reciprocate love and care as well as express his own feelings and not afraid to lend a shoulder to cry on or compliment others. In other words, I want an Emotionally Intelligent person.
· Financial stability - Not being materialistic or unrealistic, but a man should be ambitious and have goals for future growth to sustain his family in the long run.
· Generosity - Someone who is generous (while staying within reason and means, of course) and not stingy with spending.
· A simple wedding - I'd prefer a relatively simple wedding.

This is a sketch of an ideal person for me, but anyone who’s somewhere along these lines is good.
Hobbies:
I’m pretty boring by regular standards, but here we go :)
I love to watch English movies, series, anime (AOT anyone? IYKYK), listen to audiobooks (I don’t prefer to read them, unless required professionally), watch documentaries and video essays on social, cultural issues, psychology, psychiatry, health, nutrition, fitness, true crime, etc. I’m keen on learning about nutrition and health and try to work on it myself as much as is practical for me. I enjoy instrumental compositions, especially piano and orchestra. I’m mesmerized by space/ universe. I also listen to various podcasts on plethora of topics from religion to medicine, mental health, relationships and social trends/evils, etc. I believe that YouTube is the greatest learning and leisure resource; I personally can’t go a day without it.
Interesting things about you:
I’m an ambivert (selectively social) and keep a very small but valuable circle. I love my “me time.” I am confident but like to keep to myself. I’m detail-oriented, like discipline, routine and order in life. I’m a Type-A personality and an ISTJ (if that matters to you). Not materialistic and generally low maintenance. I’m a bronze medalist and also a published researcher in Clinical Psychology discipline. I highly value my privacy, in real life and especially online.
I grew up in the Middle East. I live a simple life and prioritize self-care. I’m family-oriented and have a vision for my future parenting practices.
I’m a bubbly, energetic and very fun-loving person in general. I’m told that I’m compassionate and generous with appreciating others. The smallest things give me joy. I'm also firm with my boundaries in life.
I absolutely love animals and have a few pets myself (a cat and birds). Still wish I could have many more :( I cherish quality family time and hangouts. Definitely not brand conscious and I don’t watch the brain-numbing news (I do stay updated on world events though). Personally, I live and let live and expect the same from my spouse. I’m inclined towards rationality and logic; so not an idealist. I’m not much interested in politics. I’m less of an outdoorsy person and enjoy indoor activities much more. Nevertheless, I would love to travel with my spouse and explore new places for sure.
All in all, I’m a desi girl at heart, with a mix of western touch of course. I lean a little more towards traditional values (while keeping a balance) and don’t identify with radical feminism of today (things have gone so wrong there!), but rather “true” feminism that Islam so beautifully and rationally embodies.
In interpersonal relations, I always communicate and discuss things that bother me and never sweep things under the rug or pretend nothing happened. It’s only fair that I expect the same openness from my spouse.
I can’t stand people who don’t keep their word (in personal lives or professionally), i.e. they tell you they’ll do something and then they don’t.
To sum up, I’m looking for an easy-going, humble, self-aware, responsible, respectful and emotionally available man. Someone with whom I can make bad jokes and laugh at memes together; a best friend for life. Hopefully, someone who loves animals as much as I do. And of course, I’ll also be all those things I mentioned above without question.
P.S. No description can completely acquaint you with a person. Nevertheless, I tried to cover all the major points.
Nobody is perfect, and neither am I. It can be overwhelming, but don’t hesitate to reach out if you think we can click.
If you message, please get to the point straight away with your profile mentioned. I can’t do small talk and please DON’T message if you’re not looking to settle down or intend to ghost or just have poor online social etiquette, i.e. being inconsistent in the talking stage.
With a profound decision like marriage, I believe in vetting each other first. Once it’s apparent that we’re a good match, parents will definitely be involved for sure.
Thanks for having the patience to read through it :) :) :)
May Allah make it easy for all of us. Ameen.

About a month ago I was diagnosed with OA. I was sent to get an MRI to check on the vas deferens and the seminal vesicles. It turns out I have an undeveloped vas deferens and hypoplastic seminal vesicles. To be honest, I was expecting to hear this as I am a carrier of cystic fibrosis. I haven’t found the courage to tell my wife yet. I don’t want to crush her right now as she has her own health problems she’s working on (blocked fallopian tube and cyst that we just found out about 2 days ago).
I’m mostly ok right now. I’m sure the emotions will catch up to me in the next couple days. Right now my hardest thing is feeling broken and feeling so different from other men that it’s isolating. It may sound stupid…I don’t know. Like being different in that other men can ejaculate sperm and I can’t. Other men have the potential to make babies and I don’t. Other men can give their wives children and I can’t. My whole life I’ve felt different (for various reasons). This just feels like the straw that broke the camels back and solidifying that I am different.

I had 2 male cockatiels from almost a year, recently I got them wives one was adult the Other was still young. Two days ago the young one died unfortunately and now one of my males has made a pair with the female.
Now the problem is I have seen them trying to cross they are unable to cross properly The male kinda gets disturbed by his brother and seems like he doesn't know what to do after getting on top.
Now I can separate the single male from them but then I would have to keep him alone which would be disturbance for both boys as they know each other for so long. If the young one was still alive I would've put them together so he won't be alone but now this is not the case.
Any advice on how to get them to cross properly? Maybe showing them some YouTube Videos? (Cockatiels p***) And should I separate the single male?

I get asked fairly often by non-Black writers, usually white writers, on how to write realistic Black characters. Usually these aren't science fiction or fantasy scripts, more like grounded dramas or comedies. I figured it might be useful for some people to lay out how to write Black characters if you yourself are not Black. I'm largely going to be speaking on Black American characters but you could apply this to any set of African descended peoples.
1. Power Dynamics
This isn't going to apply to every single story but it's important to be aware of the power dynamics that might be in play especially if you are inserting a Black character into a story that has largely non Black characters or is set in a time period not particularly favorable to Black folk if we're going by history. A good example I like to use is the Clint Eastwood movie Unforgiven which is a great film. It dissects the western mythos and grounds itself in realism, except where Morgan Freeman's character is concerned. It doesn't break the story but it is noticable that a Black man in the 1800's largely escapes the racism of the era when almost everything else is played realistically. If you want a Black character in an interracial relationship, please be cognizant of how there are power dynamics in those relationships as well and you can use that in your storytelling if you wish. It's not a hard and fast real but knowing how real life dynamics between Blacks and whites in America, or honestly anywhere else, play out can help you flesh out your characters, the story and the world they live in. Lethal Weapon does this very well by implying the differences between the two leads in a way that is subtle but not over the top.
2. Do Not Have the Characters' Entire Identity Be in Relation to White People
Give your characters some sort of inner life, even if most of that is in your notes, so that their development and character doesn't revolve around their white co-stars. This is especially important in any story about racism, overcoming prejudice or anything set in slave or civil rights times. Do not have your Black characters solely be an avatar for the oppression rendered unto them by white characters. What is their personality, background and quirks outside of the main plot? A lot of this can remain in your notes if you wish but do have this in mind when you are writing them. The Greatest Showman is a bad movie for several reasons but a big one is that Zendaya does not exist except to function as a thrust for Zac Efron's character development. Do not let them just be props meant to service the white character's story.
3. Language
Some writers choose to write dialogue in the dialect of the characters, that's fine. But learn how AAVE operates before you do so. Watch YouTube videos by Black YouTubers, read books on linguistics of Black Americans etc. While many Black folk do speak AAVE as a primary and secondary dialect, depending on the region it can be very different. A Black man from New York will have commonalities in his speech with a Black Man from Georgia or Florida but Northern and Southern AAVE differ in outside cultural influences, history etc. We can tell when you're doing it wrong. Save the Last Dance is a good one because that movie is set in Chicago yet all of them sound like they're Black folk from The Bronx or Bed Stuy. Tyler Perry uses a lot of local actors from the South. They are going to sound very different in some ways compared to the local actors Spike Lee used in his early works set in New York. California Black folk have quirks to their AAVE as well. We are similar but not entirely the same. If you are writing about non American Black folk this is doubly important. A Jamaican knows when you're using their language right. A Nigerian will call you out if the character speaks like he's from Ghana.
4. Talk to Black People
We can tell when a white writer has never spoken to a Black person in a meaningful way or is mimicking how they think we act and talk. Black American culture can differ by region and there are internal dynamics within the community that can often come into play as well. Talking to actual Black folk about whatever topic you're writing about us can be very helpful in you fleshing out your story and sorting out plot details. I wish someone working on The Hate U Give had done this because I and almost every person I've met finds it insanely unrealistic that he would've reached for a comb while he was being held over by the police. You risk undercutting your message by accidentally writing something that doesn't ring true to our experiences or even the basics of Black American culture and history.
5. Study Black Culture
No matter which one you use please research the Black culture you are working with. Outside of being culturally sensitive, it can also expand your sandbox. The Pixar movie Soul missed out by not really having a ton of Black culture integrated into the script. It's there in some ways like the jazz and they brought in a Black writer to help but this was long after most of the story details had been set in stone. Even he said he wasn't there to tell a culturally authentic story because that wasn't their goal, would've been nice if it was though. You're not just writing about a color, it's a culture. If you can't see it that way, maybe just make the character white or whatever your background is.
6. Avoid Using Cliches or Stereotypes Unless You're Deconstructing Them
Research what are common tropes about Black folk in Western media and do your best to avoid them. This especially important in a comedy because unless you're actually doing something in the way of commentary you're probably going to get some pushback. Avoid things like the magical negro, the angry Black man, the sassy Black woman etc. This isn't to say your characters can't have personality but don't be lazy. Bring the same creativity you'd use for white/non-Black characters to us.
All of these can also apply to white writers writing about other groups like Asians, Latinos, Indigenous peoples etc.
EDIT: Unsurprisingly, I have noticed there are many people who are missing my point entirely or don't seem to understand why this is important. Well as someone who and I'm not trying to brag here has been in these meetings with people who are trying to buy my script, they will ask you especially if you are riding a character that is not your particular background what resources did you use to write this script? Specifically don't ask did you use a sensitivity guide or a person who gives feedback and they are from that community as well. They're going to ask what you did to make sure that this is not closing insensitive or something that could blow up on them later. Because studios are in the business is making money and they don't make money if people find their products to be in offensive or inauthentic.

Hello good people of Watts Island. I’m back to talk a little about Shanann’s friends and do something akin to ‘Who were they and where are they now?”
The idea behind this post came from “Beyond the Headlines: The Watts Family Tragedy” that I recently watched on YouTube. I have much to say about these interviews and the narrative that was and is forced on the public regarding Shanann and her relationship with Chris.
So, let’s get into it.
The Watts Family Tragedy Includes Never-Before-Seen Footage Beyond The Headlines Special LMN
Maybe some of you have seen this before and maybe some have not, me included. I came across this just a few nights ago and I feel there are some things that could be addressed. A “set the record straight” if you will. I figured that we would use this opportunity to talk about these women who call Shanann their “friend”, their connection to her and what has happened in their lives since this crime made them semi-famous.
Most of you know that I have researched this crime relentlessly. I have learned a lot about the people involved. I also became very familiar with the business of MLM’s and the dichotomy that exists in the friendships that develop within them. It’s all very, very interesting. After reading all of this, go back and rewatch the above video once again. It has a performance vibe to it. Shanann’s gruesome demise brought fame and glory to Thrive and its promoters and many of them still use their connection to her to bring in sales. We will get into that later.
The main characters to discuss in this video are:
Cristina Meacham, Cassandra Rosenberg, Cindy Derossett, and CBI Agent Tammy Lee. We will touch on Mr Rourke and Mr. Wrenn but this is about the women and their connection to Shanann. There is also a news reporter featured in the show but she is a paid talking head, so not of interest to me. She is merely the messenger of the narrative. She did not actually construct it. However, she had a big part in pushing it out into the world.
On with the show…
I want to start with Cristina Meacham. Before I give you my thoughts on her interview, I want to say that the loss of her husband, Deloye (DJ) is a tragedy and I feel for her and her daughter.
DJ was a retired US military serviceman. He was a certified diving instructor and owned his own recreational diving company in Hawaii called Deco Divers. On October 13, 2023, just two days after Cristina returned from Puerto Rico where she had attended the funeral of her grandmother, DJ passed away from complications that occurred while he was diving in shallow water. He suffered from some sort of emergency while in the water and died as a result. He was 53.
The Meacham’s appeared to have had a good marriage if you believe what’s on social media. But we all know that things aren’t always what they seem. That’s neither here nor there. Cristina and Nickole Atkinson have always seemed the most genuine of Shanann’s “friend group” (their words not mine.) Cristina struck me as honest. Yes, she is a hunbot. Yes, she does participate in an MLM. But she doesn’t sell the fake lifestyle like Shanann did. At least, not as aggressively.
I think the two women were close. Talking on the phone everyday. Brainstorming on how to coax more suckers into promoting Thrive. But Cristina’s livelihood didn’t hinge on building a bigger downline. Shanann had quit her job and Chris’ paycheck didn’t begin to cover their basic expenses.
Back in 2015, while Shanann was still working and making decent pay, money was extremely tight. The house payment alone absorbed over half of his monthly salary. After utilities, car insurance, minimum credit card payments, Shanann’s shopping habits, clothing and food, the Watts were well into the red. Shanann juggled the bills each month in order to try and keep them afloat. But it didn’t work and in June of that same year, the Watts filed for bankruptcy protection.
By Chris’ account, he was floored by the need to file bankruptcy. Shanann had complete control over their finances. She insisted and Chris wasn’t one to tell her ‘no.’ She chose to marry him, in part, because of that little fact. Chris was easily pushed around by his wife. He was conflict avoidant by nature. Combine that and his fear of Shanann’s italian temper and you have a recipe for financial disaster.
By the time summer of 2018 had rolled around their money problems were significantly worse. Shanann no longer worked that decent paying job. The girls were now enrolled full time at Primrose to the tune of $500 per week. Still, Shanann would pump hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars a month into promoting Thrive. This meant that the house payment would go unpaid for months at a time and/or only partial payments were made. The HOA had filed suit against the Watts for unpaid dues that stretched back more than a year.
Shanann knew that things had gotten to the breaking point where money was concerned. She used deceptive tactics to draw friends and family into the Thrive pyramid scheme. Maybe this is why Cristina Meacham always appeared genuine to me. Her sales pitch didn’t have the desperation behind it like Shanann’s. I suspect that the majority of the women promoting Thrive were in the same predicament as Shanann. Trying to keep a roof over their families heads is hard when your fake lifestyle soaks up all of the money. They continue to throw money at the Thrive monster in order to keep up appearances in hopes that some poor schmuck will fall for the same tired sales pitch and go all in on promoting the product. Downlines on downlines on downlines. It’s impossible for someone like Shanann to make this MLM business structure lucrative. It’s not going to happen. Most huns see it fairly quickly and this is why most of these “sales consultants” LOL actually throw in the towel in the first 6 months. The super hunbots with delusions of grandeur sacrifice everything they and their partner have built in pursuit of the life they “deserve” despite it being completely unrealistic. These women build teams of lovebombing stepford wives, all of which are hell bent on clawing their way to the top of the pyramid.
With this dynamic at play in all MLM’s it’s hard to know if the relationships between hunbots are legitimate or if they are a product of the MLM. Cristina may have been “close” to Shanann but in the MLM game that doesn’t necessarily equate to genuine friendship.
Let’s keep it real. Cristina was in the front row of the Shanann Show more than once. The first week and half of August 2018 had Cristina in the trenches. Shanann texted her literally day and night spouting hateful accusations at Ronnie and Cindy Watts. Followed by prolonged rants on why Chris didn’t want to touch her or talk to her. Cristina could surely see why Chris may have been upset with his wife. Anyone with any semblance of normalcy could read those text messages and see that Shanann was not a supportive or caring wife. She wanted her husband to choose her side in a battle she orchestrated against his family. A highly disordered personality has to be the culprit.
Cristina is used in the voiceover during the intro of the show. She speaks in a strange tone that I hadn’t heard from her before. I have watched an embarrassing amount of this woman’s social media content and believe me when I say that this voice is new.
Cristina has a lot to say about who Shanann was and while I don’t believe that their friendship was anything rock solid, I do think that Cristina knew Shanann better than anyone else outside of her husband and family.
Cristina was starting to get a picture of the real Shanann, though. The text exchanges between Shanann and Cristina during July and August 2018, were eye opening to me. I have read and reread some of those messages and found myself shaking my head in disbelief. Shanann was not a nice person. Cristina has had years to mull over the details. She didn’t seem comfortable with the way Shanann was treating her husband and in-laws. Her responses to Shanann’s vitriol are interesting. They suggest to me that after spending eight weeks at Saratoga Trail and watching Shanann in her element, Cristina was seeing things for what they were. Shanann wanted to be in control. If her wants and needs weren’t met, there was going to be a problem. She was a bully and a…bitch honestly. Cristina resorted to the obligatory head nodding after her initial attempts to encourage Shanann to be calm and level-headed failed miserably.
While Cristina and Koral were in Colorado in late summeearly fall of 2017. Shanann was in the throes of Thrive and most of us know what that entailed.
Shanann had quit her job at the hospital to Thrive full time. The girls were dropped off at daycare at approximately 7 am each weekday morning, where they stayed for nine plus hours. Chris was sent to retrieve them after his twelve hour shift ended at Anadarko. He brought them home where he was tasked with bathing, feeding, brushing teeth, administering meds, and reading bedtime stories, before putting them to bed by 6:30 pm. Shanann would often make Chris perform live for her Facebook friends in addition to his nightly dad duties. Giving piggyback rides on camera. Dutifully obeying his wife's demands to do pushups and squats with screaming children clutching his neck and head. All of this is punctuated by being the punchline to all of Shanann’s not-so-funny, mean jokes. The laundry was always waiting patiently for his attention after the girls were put to bed. Sometimes even the dishes were on his list of things to do before he was allowed to rest after his long day.
Cristina knows all of this. She was right in the thick of the action, so to speak. Not only was she a witness to this unequaled dynamic but she also utilized Shanann’s beast of burden herself on many occasions, as he was also a great babysitter. Cristina trusted Chris, once upon a time. Trusted him so much that she would leave her toddler in his care while she and Shanann took a weekend trip to Las Vegas. She also left Koral with Chris several nights per week. Shanann and Cristina went to dinners, movies, bars, etc while Chris stayed at home with both of his toddlers and Cristina’s as well. He didn’t even have access to a vehicle during these times. What kind of man would put up with that kind of treatment? A nice man. A genuinely nice man. That’s who Chris was and Cristina Meacham knows it.
Her knowledge of what their marriage was really like behind the doors on Saratoga Trail is the reason why Cristina doesn’t shed one real tear in the above video. Look closely. No tears. Her voice lifts and squeaks as though it is full of confusion and emotion but there’s no there, there. Performative.
Cristina knows that Chris was an excellent father and husband until that day in August. She also knows that Shanann pushed and pushed and pushed. It was her way or no way at all.
They use a few of Shanann’s text messages as proof of her broken heart after Chris began to pull away but what they don’t show is the manipulation and abuse that filled the other 99% of her texts during that same time period. The way that Shanann spoke about her husband and his family in text messages she sent to Cristina Meacham during the summer of 2018 shows the real, down and dirty deal. It is more than obvious from Cristina’s replies to those messages that she knew Shanann was full of hatred and malice toward Chris’ parents and sister. Hell, not even his young niece and nephew were safe from Shanann’s vitriol. It’s not as if Cristina hadn’t been privy to that side of Shanann. She had seen it firsthand. This is why Cristina cries with dry eyes.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe that Cristina is affected by the loss of someone who was a big part of her life in the final two years leading up to the murders. But what you can’t convince me of is that Cristina truly believes that Shanann was the living, breathing angel that she is portrayed to have been.
If there is anyone outside of Shanann and Chris' respective families who saw who Shanann really was, it’s Cristina Meacham.
Cristina ruminates on the atrocities that Chris committed that August morning. Strangely though, she leaves the girls out of their own murder. It’s quite obvious that the point of this whole thing is to shove that same old narrative down our throats. That Shanann was an angel and Chris is the devil. They pushed this on the public from the day that Chris was arrested. There was no investigation. No defense team to pull the skeletons out of the closet and dust them off for the world to see. No friends or family of Chris were given a platform to tell their truth. Nope. It was and still is the “Shanann Show.” Propagated by the Weld county DA’s office, the Rzucek family and the powers that be at LeVel.
Cristina’s description of Shanann is a caricature. Maybe this is why the tears just aren’t there. She calls Shanann a good person and a good wife to Chris. Would a good wife insist that her husband cut all ties with his parents for the 2nd time in six years? Do good people use Facebook as a weapon against their in-laws? Does a good wife heap all of the childcare and chores on her husband every evening after he worked a 12 hour shift? While she sat at home and spent money that they simply did not have? These are just small examples of the shit that Shanann put Chris through. We won’t even talk about how she separated Chris from his family and friends through manipulation and deceit. She made sure that he had no life outside of the house on Saratoga Trail. Even his position at Anadarko was for Shanann’s benefit. His work as a mechanic just didn’t fit into her vision for him. How can she call Shanann a good person when she was well aware that Shanann used her children as leverage against the people that loved them? It’s honestly disgusting.
If Cristina was such a close friend of Shanann’s, why didn’t she speak up and tell her that the way she treated her husband was wrong? Cristina had the chance to bring some truth and clarity to the situation while Shanann and Chris were still in North Carolina? The way that Shanann insulted and degraded her husband and his family was shameful. Cristina never once spoke up to bring Shanann back down to earth. That’s not a real friend.
Let’s talk about Cassie Rosenberg. Oh, Cassie, Cassie, Cassie. Shanann’s champion and “best friend.” Cassie is one of those people that were made for MLM’s and the like. Opportunistic but likable and empathetic. She dove into Thrive, head first. Just like Shanann. She was fresh off of a foreclosure and feeling low when Thrive rescued her and her husband, Josh from a life of boredom and laziness.
Shanann and Cassie met around November of 2017. Cassie lived in Arizona with her husband Josh and their three children. Stair step in ages. Two girls and one boy if I remember right. Not really sure as the Rosenberg children didn’t get the screen time that Bella and Celeste were forced to endure. Then again, Cassie had an actual career. She is an RN and therefore worked during the day instead of sitting at home and playing on her phone.
Cassie and Shanann instantly clicked during their initial meeting. Cassie had been part of Shanann’s invisible audience by way of her involvement in Thrive. Cassie was drawn to Shanann’s Thrive celebrity so to speak. Cassie was new to LeVel when the murders occurred.
Then there’s Cindy Derossett. She is another Thriver. She also lives in Arizona. Cindy is a LeVel millionaire recipient who owns a small boutique in Queen Creek, AZ. She has been with LeVel for 10 years.
So, here we have three of Shanann’s fellow Thrivers speaking about her character, pushing out the agreed upon narrative to the public. There are so many things wrong with this and it’s difficult to pick a place to start.
Why were these women chosen for this program? I understand that Cristina Meacham was probably the closest thing Shanann had to a real friend. Even though their friendship was transactional, Cristina knew Shanann for fourteen years. Even if you didn’t count the twelve years that they didn’t see one another, Cristina was still Shanann’s oldest friend. Yes, that’s correct. While Shanann had hoards of acquaintances that she would eventually pester to join the Thrive experience, she had no close friends before she joined LeVel.
Back to the question of why these particular women were chosen to represent who Shanann was in life…I believe they were the only people who would or could give the public what it wanted; a tragic main character that propagated sympathy.
Cassie wonders whether we ever really “know” someone else. She questions how Chris could commit such a horrible act without showing any signs of what was to come.
Of course it’s possible to truly “know” others. However, Cassie barely knew Chris. It hadn’t even been a full year since she had initially met Shanann face to face. Trips they took with LeVel were their only physical interactions with one another until the Rosenbergs popped up in Colorado during that holiday weekend in 2018. Of course Cassie didn’t know Chris and truthfully she barely knew Shanann.
Cindy began her “friendship” with Shanann on Facebook. Cindy was a Thriver from way back and she was introduced to Shanann by Addy Maloney.
Cindy, who calls herself a “spiritual coach” and motivational speaker, is an accomplished lovebomber. If you didn’t know better you would think that Cindy Derossett had been an integral part of the lives of Shanann and the girls. She had never actually met either of Shanann’s daughters. Cindy would see Chris on the LeVel trips but that was the extent of her relationship with him. She barely knew this family and yet, here she is on television speaking about them as though she were some kind of authority on who they were.
Both Cassie and Cindy agree that everyone that met Shanann couldn’t help but be her friend. If that were true then why was it that Shanann had no friends to speak of before joining Thrive? Sure, Shanann knew a lot of people and she would often refer to them as “friends” but in reality Shanann couldn’t maintain anything deeper than a surface level connection. Interpersonal relationships couldn’t be sustained.
She was engaging and fun on the surface but that would change as the relationship progressed. There were no friends outside of Thrive. Even the women she met before she started Thrive were eventually used to expand her downline.
While reading the text messages between Shanann and her circle, it’s obvious that each of these relationships were centered around Shanann. It was her problems that were discussed. It was her accomplishments that were celebrated. Every conversation was dictated by whatever it was that Shanann had going on in her life. Shanann surrounded herself with empathetic people in order to exploit them. Like Chris.

Cassie and Cindy are asked to describe Bella and Cece. I, myself, who have never met those children, would have done better. Their answers are full of platitudes that have been repeated over and over for the last five years. Neither of them say anything heartfelt about the girls. 

This is because Cindy had never met either Bella or Celeste. She saw via Shanann’s facebook posts but she had never actually been in the same room with them.
Cassie had only met the Watts girls once. This was in May of 2018 when the Rosenbergs traveled to Colorado for a local that Shanann was hosting. The family of 5 spent the Memorial Day weekend with the Watts on Saratoga Trail.
Both girls spent 9 hours a day, five days a week at daycare. They were in bed by 6:30 every evening.
On the weekends, Chris kept the kids out of Shanann’s hair so she could “run with her amazing team.”
So when exactly did Cassie and Cindy spend enough time with Bella and Cece that would constitute them being asked to speak about them post mortem??
At first I didn’t get it. It took a moment or two for me to catch on to why these people were invited to tell their story. People that didn’t really know them.
Then it clicked. This entire production was about Shanann.
This show aired for the first time in 2020. Just about the time that this case was generating renewed interest for different reasons.
Two years had passed since the murders occurred. Plenty of time to read and reread the discovery. Shanann’s facebook videos were compiled on YouTube channels and sent out to the morbidly curious. Like myself. Two years it took for people to begin to question the narrative. Was Shanann an innocent victim in this crime? Was she a good wife and mother who was married to a monster?
Or, was there something else to see here?
These women were brought into this case by way of their MLM connection to Shanann but they have remained as main characters to push the narrative. They have told us that Shanann was everything right in the world and Chris killed her because he was a cheating, lying piece of shit.
While some of you may believe all of that to be true, there are those of us who dug deeper into the lives of the Watts family leading up to the murders and what we have found flipped the case upside down. It’s the reason that this case remains in the front row of the true crime cases that we can’t let go.
The has-it-all image Shanann presented on social media was a dissimilation. Behind closed doors she had created an environment filled with intense levels of stress for her family.
Chris and the girls lived in constant apprehension. Creating a perfect picture for the outside world had become a responsibility for this family and anyone that threatened it would be discounted. Shanann’s selfishness caused uncertainty, insecurity, depression and probably fear.
Cristina, Cassie and Cindy talk as though they had spent considerable time with them when in fact they had not.
Truthfully, they barely knew Shanann. The amazing mom and wife that they were acquainted with was a veneer and the lifestyle that she showed off on social media was a sham. Nothing but a simulation of the life she dreamed of having.
Pay attention to what it is that they are saying and not saying about Shanann. Their characterization of her is anecdotal. The entire vibe is disingenuous and insipid.
Cristina insists that Shanann was a go-getter and was determined to create the best life for her family. But is that really true? Is that what she was attempting to achieve? Or was she hung up on material things? People who spend their families into financial ruin aren’t caring for them properly. Sliding into a second bankruptcy and a foreclosure on their home so that she could keep up the traveling, wealthy, suburban mom facade isn’t what I would call “trying to create the best life for her family.” Her vision board was a testament to her mindset. Yachts, beach houses, the list goes on and on. Someone with this kind of juvenile thinking isn’t what I would call a “go-getter.”
Cindy claims Shanann taught her girls how to love. Again, how would Cindy know this to be true? Teaching them to love? By fostering a golden child/scapegoat dynamic between them? By encouraging them to throw their food at their dad when they were displeased or impatient? How about when she screamed at their Mimi that they would never step foot in their grandparents home again?
Was it love she was teaching them when she dressed them up in lovely clothes every year to sit on Santa’s lap and find entertainment in their terror and distrust?
But most importantly of all…was she teaching them to love when she subjected them to her own sadistic form of Babywise from the minute they were born? Leaving them alone in their cribs to cry-it-out?
Cindy says when Shanann posted videos to Facebook, it was their “joy” to watch. It was likely they were required to watch by their MLM leaders.
Cassie calls Shanann “captivating” but all I saw was the exploitation of her children.
The reporter even dodges the facts by claiming that Shanann’s “main job” was as a consultant for a nutritional supplement company. There’s no way that this educated woman doesn’t know that Shanann was participating in an MLM. A pyramid scheme does not equate to a “main job.” Mostly because that “main job” doesn’t actually pay you for your work.
We will continue my reaction to Beyond the Headlines: The Watts Family Tragedy, later this week. I have a lot to say.
Thanks for reading.
Del
Pt2 https://www.reddit.comDel_Boca_Vista_4eva/s/keBnGlmySn
Pt3 https://www.reddit.comDel_Boca_Vista_4eva/s/WMm7qWetaY

Hear me out... Given Psycho's advanced age (same as mine 😆), I think the Trio could use extra help in more complex games (i.e. games that require building, crafting, completing tasks/quests, etc, in order to advance), like their latest playthrough of Mediaeval Dynasty. I'm currently watching Magoroku's vod on YouTube of his pov in Abiotic Factor, and he's pretty much carrying. In other words, it's the difference between disappearing and returning to the team with a bunch of resources and crafted/built items for the others to use, and disappearing and returning with another failed attempt to get a wife 😁 (or steal CJ's wife).
So my suggestion for the "plus" is Mago. And Psycho should enjoy his last days rizzing wives or looking for cursed possessions to troll his teammates 🥲
Edit:
This was a joke 😅, following Psycho's hilarious performance in MD, but also Insym's stress because of the amount of tasks needing to be done. I thought this was a happy solution 😊
I kinda wanted to see Psycho get his nine babies (I think he was considering having them from different wives 🤣), but understandably the others were a bit tired of the grind, so Insym ended it. For now at least! Sharing the workload with a guest makes it easier on them, for grindy videogames.

Hey there,
There are more and more of these fuckers filming everyone everywhere without their prior authorisation. The problem is that some of these vloggers film with a hidden or semi-hidden camera, and you don't always see it.
We all know that Pattaya is NOT a neutral place. People have wives and family back there, and the last thing you want is your face on some shady Pattaya YouTube video/short.
What can be done against it? Vlogging is becoming an epidemic. It's sad to see what this world is becoming, day after day. We should make laws against vlogging or filming people's faces without their consent.
Enjoy life, don't try to film every second of it.

I missed out on a lot of great music growing up, especially classic rock and moving into hard rock and metal. This is cool in a way because my friends are living vicariously through me re-discovering their favorite bands.
Growing up, I heard a lot about, but didn't experience, the whole "Satanic Panic" thing, where kids listening to angry music was a sign of the end times, or maybe at least something that would give them a predilection towards violence. I'm posting questions about it here because it seems like it's a topic associated with social conservatism. But it also might just be that it's older generations judging younger generations' tastes, and older generations are on average more conservative than younger ones...
So, that's my casual Saturday topic for y'all! I'm gearing this topic more towards people who listen to this kind of a thing. Non-metalheads are welcome of course. This is a silly thread.

1. Was there widespread talk in your area about The Devil's Music when (insert your favorite flavor of rock music here) was gaining popularity? Or is that an old wives' tale?
2. What did that sort of pushback look like? Did you/do you see anything like that currently?
3. What's your current favorite band? Both popular and niche answers are accepted, and don't have to be rock related. Bonus points for links to favorite albums.

For me, YouTube Music has been picking up my habits recently, and is recommending System of a Down, Ghost, and Muse, but digging back in my listening history, you'll find Love Craft, a niche 70s psychedelic/progressive rock band that doesn't seem like it gets the credit it deserves.
We Love You (Whoever you Are) is my current favorite album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofZfLkhb3s8
🤘

Happy Friday y'all. Another week in the bag.
Proof
I would love to complete the following trades

• ALL of the following Silver Libertads (total of 34 Libs) for your 1/2 ozt BU gold (preferrably slabbed). I am looking for .999 pure gold (partial to ASE, Britannia, or Maple). I will also consider pre-1933 gold of similar value (20 pesos anyone?):
  • 9x Crispy AF 1oz. 2021 Mexico Libertad Mintage numbers I found point to a low-ish 450,000
  • 1x Tube of 25x 2023 Mexico Libertad
• My $30FV of 90% Constitutional half-dollars ($10 FV of each, Kennedy, Benjies, and Walking Lib -all with dates-) for your 1/4 ozt of .999 gold (also prefer ASE, Brit, Maple)

Now, onto the items for sale. They are listed in the same order they are pictured:
.1. Intaglio Getz Washington - 2 Troy Ounce - 39mm - $
.2. Intaglio 1783 Dated Washington & Independence Cent Tribute – 2 Troy Ounce – 39mm $
.3. Intaglio Buffalo Nickel Tribute - 2 Troy Ounce - 39mm - $
.4. Intaglio Lincoln Penny High Relief Tribute - 2 ozt - 39mm - $
.5. Intaglio 1792 Birch One Cent Tribute - 2 Troy Ounce - 39mm - $
Additional Info:

• I am mainly looking for fiat, but I will consider trading my silver for your gold (preferably 1/4 ozt or larger and .999 purity).
• Don't be shy, reach out with any questions. I will consider reasonable offers.

Shipping:

• CONUS only, $5 USPS Ground Advantage, $10 SFRB, unless otherwise indicated.
• I hand-deliver packages to USPS, and thankfully have never had an issue. I will do my best to assist if a claim needs to be submitted, but once in USPS hands, the responsibility is on them and the buyer.

Payment:
I will take Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal (latter 2 friends and family only, no comments), in order of preference.
Stay alert, stay safe and keep on stacking! Hide yo' wives, hide yo' passwords!

I am a publicist but not THEIR publicist. But, for fun, I thought you’d enjoy what my next steps would be if I were each cast member’s publicist or pr manager.

• James Kennedy: I would continue to support earned media around DJing and keep him booked and busy. While in the background creating a crisis plan with lawyers and a Crisis Management firm around the abuse allegations, with all possible outcomes and public responses. I would have him create a 501c3 non-profit with Lisa’s support to help temporarily place pets in foster homes for people in DV situations who don’t want to completely lose their animals when leaving abuse situations. I would work with him to create a few key fundraising events a year for his new non-profit. Additionally, I would work with his Artist Management towards song collaborations with up and coming Gen Z artists and push him into track production.
  
• Ally: I’d outsource new branding and website where she could automate her Astrology business into a Astrology Lifestyle site. Email newsletters, topics on what a Leo should wear to the Beach, interviewing sex therapist on top advice for each sign, etc. A convergence of lifestyle, love and advice with the signs in mind! Hire an editor, SM Manager and can some good photo content. In the future, I’d advise her to create a retail product around astrology signs. Possibly pitch making an App for a niche astrology need for year 2. I would have Ally and James take break from creating music together for about 8 months to focus on this and work on swaying public perception that she is using James. In interviews, I’d have her lean more into being “so thankful for what the show has allowed her to pursue and manifest her creativity”. I feel like she could connect with the audience more through SM. I see her working more with the crowd that loved Emma Chamberlain that’s now a little older, authentic but now affluent, down to earth but has style, raw yet quirky and intelligent.
  
• Katie: I love that Katie is different than a lot of the cast and I feel like I understand her Millennial dark aesthetic audience. I would push her into full SAH mode, prepping her for grand opening and being physically present in the shop for a good amount of time to ensure the public associates their venture as truly being theirs and heavily involved before they delegate away. I think she should take investor meetings or scout locations in St Pete, West Palm Beach, and Charleston next. I would be pitching her to women focused conferences as a speaker and get her networking. I would look for her next relationship to be with a indie musician (any gender) and cause a stir (none of the minor league kissing the babysitter bs), really lean into Travis BarkeKourtney Kardashian dark love in her content. I would pitch some ideas to test audience buy-in, Murder Mystery Makeup with Bailey Sarian episode, 3 dark lipstick collab with a makeup brand, and other partnerships. Her podcast could write too much so let’s skip.
  
• Ariana - I would have her meet with Bravo execs to discuss her own interview style show. Andy has a lot of life left in him but looking at their show lineup, they could add another interview/talk style show without competing with Andy. It would be intriguing because they’d get the viewership vs if she did her own podcast or decided to walk away from VPR. Perhaps the show has Bravo guests and Celebs on for more hands on interactions, trivia, silly games, etc. in the vein of Chicken Shop Date or Hot Ones where she is doing something physically while interviewing. She is charming, sarcastic and humorous while also showing disarming empathy. I would see if there was some product in the retail market that wasn’t oversaturated (not energy, fizzy, coffee drinks) that aligned with her target audience and her authentic interests. A line of organic non-dye drink syrups? Gummies for mental clarity, libido, and skin? Additionally, I’ve said on another post but I would have her in the beginning of 2025 release a canned YouTube series where she renovates and decorates her home. Partnership collaborations with Bobby Berk, Mr Kate, LoneFoxHome, Target, Wayfair etc. It would be completely hers and could hire a good film crew and editor, and see how she likes creative directing and producing medium form content.
  
• Schwartz: PR stop of current girlfriend media. The public doesn’t care or need it reinforced he can only handle relationships with 20 year olds. I’d advise him to stop making out with randoms in the LA bar scene because he’s opening himself up to risk of false allegations, underage women, etc. I’d try to see if he could book Big Brother and other podcasts with female interviewers who ask beyond VPR questions, but more about Tom. PR Relationship suggestions: Kaitlyn Bristowe from Bachelor if she isn’t dating Zac Clark or Brittany Snow. I think the public wants to see him endeared to a sweet, relatable, kind woman who changes his Peter Pan ways but is still bubbly and fun. I would not advise him to move in with Sandoval to transition to The Valley. I would advise to create more distance from Sandoval and Katie, and come out from both their shadows. I’d have him work with a trainer and get into outdoor partnerships (promotion and modeling) and expand his interests for the show, REI campaign, long distance running/hiking, something with a physical goal to rally and find a different audience - “come along as I hike Appalachia, come along as I train for Ironman.”
  
• Sandoval: Have whatever new girlfriend move in with him and cause drama as he moves to a new place in the Valley. Let him get eaten alive by the married men who don’t trust him and have him drag them to party nights that make the wives uncomfortable, plus Kristin drama in general. He needs to just stay quiet until next summer (both lawsuits) and try to book whatever will take him while making money and paying down debts. I’d pitch an easy online storefront of Rockabilly clothes he can peddle. No more mocking t-shirts. Reputation management, fly under the radar for the next year until VPR returns.
  
• Scheana: I’d work with her on a simple script regarding postpartum OCD, anxiety and rage, really tighten up her retelling her experience and have her do a podcast circuit ONLY discussing this and her motherhood journey, such as The Mom Room Podcast. Transition to The Valley and focus on motherhood with OCD/Anxiety, discussing the pressure of traditional gender roles in the home, marriage and parenting, and focus on the relationships with the other women in the show.
  
• Brock: I think the direction of his construction content on Instagram is working. For the Valley, I would have him focus that questioning attitude on the men only. Advise that the goal with the first season of the Valley is to ensure the audience views your marriage as strong and on the same team (not complaining, only speaking highly of each other), that anything he addresses with other cast members appears more authentic like it’s his own thoughts and not being a puppet for Scheana or production, and if that cannot be done he should stay silent. He should use the Valley to show off his outgoing nature, a real Australian BBQ with prawns (not celebrating Australia Day bc racism/colonialism) and having the guys play rugby. I feel like the public image of being a deadbeat dad can only be addressed by ownership, which he has done and time, consistently showing up for Summer.
  
• Lala: If her birth is missed I think she should still ask production to film for flashbacks, whether VPR or the Valley. I would have Lala team up with an LA organization such as @redeyeinc and Watts Community Center for their meals, baby necessities, mentorship etc for vulnerable populations. Other celebrities have and I think it would help her marry her rough edges and softness for a cause outside of herself. I believe they would also allow filming but she should get involved before filming and push helping single mothers in need and fundraising. I would advise Lala to pivot her podcast into interviewing female influencers and entrepreneurs and stay away from the current show gossip, and try to get the gossip from others. I think moving into mommy influencing without using the kids is and would work, promoting kid learning programs, baby products such as the Honest Company, her own Mommy and Me fashion (kimonos, bathing suits, dresses, hair accessories).
  

What would you like to see from them? What ways could they rehab poor public perception?