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2024.05.09 20:17 redditduk [MEGALIST] SG Concerts Gigs Raves - Till Vesak Day (10 - 23 May 2024)

Update 12 May: Added events till Thurs atm.

10 May, Fri

Esplanade- PESTA RAYA Malay Festival Weekend

 

Event Nights & Parties 10

 

Dance Club Guest Performers 10

 

Other Arts Events

 

Sat, 11 May

 
 

Esplanade Pesta Raya Festival 11

 

Events & Parties 11

 

Club Guest Performers 11

 

12 May, Sun - Mother's Day

Esplanade - Pesta Raya Malay Festival Last

 
 

13 May, Mon

 

14 May, Tue

 

15 May, Wed

 

16 May, Thu

 
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2024.05.08 19:14 HoloNews HoloNews ID ver. 04.08 - 04.14 2024

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2024.04.27 18:51 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 16:08 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 15:44 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 12:35 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 12:34 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 12:34 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 09:05 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 09:05 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later immigrate to the USA? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 06:49 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later become FilAms? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 04:13 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later become FilAms? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fan base in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.27 04:13 CascalaVasca How come for all the adoration of America for involvement World War 2, do most Filipinos even older generations who lived through it so ignorant of the contemporary American pop-culture of the time? Even those who later become FilAms? Esp the biggest movie stars of 30s and 40s Hollywood?

A distant cousin on the side of my family who intermarried Filipinos just watched Gone With the Wind for the very first time despite yesterday also majoring in history and specializing in World War 2.
In addition in a thread about the internationally popular European actor Alain Delon who was the hearthrob of Asia, so much that he was actually far more popular than most contemporary big AAA list within Asia names in America during his peak popularity such as Paul Newman and Jane Fonda. To the point that even the biggest world famous American celeb Elizabeth Taylor was actually unknown in some countries such as Indonesia and Thailand but Delon had a loyal fanbase in these same nations that barely had any exposure to the American pop cultural landscape of the time....... I saw this comment.
not here. tbh the PH is somewhat sheltered from trends in the rest of Asia and has historically been a regional outlier. most trends here historically have followed the US straight out, and to a limited extent, Latin America.
Also, local PH trends don't affect the rest of Asia.
Only recently (since the 2010's) can you find that trends in other neighboring countries affect pop culture here, and even then, it's limited. The only real trend that took on here on a normal level is what was Indonesian EDM and Dangdut koplo music, which became repackaged as Moro disco/Pakiring music, and then morphed into what we know today as Budots/Pinoy EDM when Visayans caught on to the trend. Now it's considered "normal" everywhere to hear it and even influenced social media in neighboring countries.
And this makes me wonder......... A lot of my older in-laws from the Philippines are still enamored with the aforementioned Elizabeth Taylor and other stars from the 60s. Do not even get me started on the 70s with the Star Wars cast and Al Pacino or the rewatches of Jaws, and so on. And I can tell talking to people from the local Pilipinas community in my state names like ABBA, Michael Caine (even though he's British), Diana Ross, Richard Dreyfus, Star Trek, and other 1950s-1970s pop culture are on the minds of people born before the Xennial generation......... Hell I know an elderly woman who is almost 80 who still oozes on about Elvis Presley........
But the thing is........ That same elderly lady despite who was born around late 1940s after the War........... Does not know who Gene Tierney was, deemed as the most beautiful woman of her era even against other competition such as Rita Hayworth and Vivien Leigh in Hollywood and held a similar status to Elizabeth Taylor as as the queen of beauty Goddess. She even acted in a lot of contemporary war films and was a common poster child for war bonds promotion.
This elderly lady knew who Clark Gable was but at the same time never seen Basil Rathborne who was the Sherlock Holmes of the same era. Nor does could she name any of the big bands such as Glenn Miller Orchestra to use a non-movie example. She only seen one Abbott and Costella movie and didn't know they did about 20 total flicks in their run. She was even surprised that in Audrey Hepburn's movie Unforgiven that one of the leads alongside her was America's most decorated war veteran ever Audie Murphy who had a career in Hollywood immediately after the War . Despite her parents living in the war,, she didn't knew who about Audie Murphy even strictly for his military service despite being guilty of throwing the same cliches of worshiping the Americans as liberators so you can only guess about her ignorance that about his Hollywood career.
So I really ask. Its understandable that people born in the 60s and later would not know any famous people from America during the War outside of the historical figures like MacArthur and Franklin Roosevelt and John Wayne maybe Clark Gable, Humphrey Bogart, and Vivien Leigh for the more than casual film watchers. But I'm still scratching my head why despite the universal adoration people born int he 40s and 50s had for America thanks for liberation from the Japanese that almost none of them (even going by anecdotes on the internet people who actually survived the war) know about Cornel Wilde (who was also big in Europe during his lifetime) or Rex Harrison.Sure Fred Astaire is known by a few, but its surprising even those who can name Astaire never heard of Ginger Rogers who was famed for her 10 movie collaberation with Fred.
Yet all the AAA celebs (not just actors) of the 50s seemed to be known even those born a decade later in the 60s such as Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Ray Charles, Dean Martin, and many more and do not get me started on the peak 60s names like Steve McQueen and even British giants like Peter O'Toole and Sean Connery.
I ask why is Filipino cross intersection with American wartime pop culture culture like this? Like those whose career didn't continue thriving onto the 50s such as the aforementioned Gene Tierney and Bela Lugosi the first big sound Dracula actor so unknown by even people who had seen the War firsthand? While the most adored vintage names are those who peaks came later in their lives in the 50s and 60s like as mentioned earlier Elizabeth Taylor or Frank Sinatra or at least had careers that continue to be alive such as John Wayne or with universally known classics such as Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh?
As someone who watches more Classic Studio System era stuff, it just feels so jarring that will all the open love older people give towards america for World War 2, that I can't find anyone even from the 60+ group who's a Dana Andrews fan or could talk about Frances Farmer's tragic and unfulfilled career. Its gotten to the point that even younger generations who study World War 2 deeply have never seen Gone With the Wind as I mentioned with my cousin and are unaware of the war veteran actors like Clark Gable himself.
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2024.04.16 08:35 Feelsgoodtimmy I make a new beats mixing with indonesian koplo instrumental

I make a new beats mixing with indonesian koplo instrumental
Totally rad dude, after I saw some music vids with this sick dangdut koplo sound, I was like, 'what if we mash that up with some hip hop beats?' Word on the street is some other cats have done it before, but hey, I hope you dig it anyway!
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2024.04.09 18:06 Gaztaroth Thoughts on this?

Thoughts on this?
Setiap malam takbiran pasti ada yang namanya takbir keliling, nah dulu jaman saya SD tahun 2000an takbir keliling ya takbiran sambil mukul bedug (tanpa musik apalagi dangdut), bawa obor oncor terus keliling desa.
Takbiran sekarang pake speaker diangkut pake truck nyetel musik dangdut/koplo/remix/campursari tapi diiringi dengan takbiran.
Apakah layak jika moment takbiran "jaman now" ini malah buat ajang gede2an sound + suaranya dan dangdutan sambil takbiran? Ada juga yang keliling pake motor knalpot brong bukannya takbiran tapi malah bleyer2 motornya.
Apa cuma saya aja yg ngrasa ngga layak kalo takbiran diiringi dangdutan apalagi koplo apalagi sambil joget2. Tapi ya begitulah di Indonesia tradisi yang kurang layak yang sudah berjalan lama akhirnya menjadi tradisi yang wajar.
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2024.04.07 21:14 Ok-tinauyu koplo dangdut

koplo dangdut
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2024.03.28 08:21 unclebeanbag7 3-Year Mystery: Bizarre Indian Techno Song

I've been trying to find this song for over 3 years now. The more I try to find it, the more I get confused. First let me start off with the first time I found this song, only 36 seconds.
I've tried shazam, google music, various music finding bots online, this subreddits own bots, and they've only all linked to various songs that are Indian that are using it as a sample, either at the beginning or end.
I've recently found randomly it in a random video while diving through YouTube, it plays for several seconds both here and here. Which was posted by an amateur editor who is also Indian. Using the bot it was sampled in these songs.
• Di Ujung Malam by LILI LIANG (04:03; matched: 100%)
• Pacar Lima Langkah by Dangdut Koplo (00:08; matched: 100%)
• Gowend by Muharrem Renas (00:09; matched: 100%)
• Ya Layt Mn Sayark by Mohamed Nabil Mohab (07:53; matched: 100%)
Anyone have an idea?
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2024.03.07 12:35 Hungtown2018 Tempo hari Alan Walker rilis lagu Who I Am versi Feel Koplo Dangdut

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2023.10.03 23:34 hi_im_nena What is the name of this song please (funkot)... Also what songs do you like to listen to in Indonesia?

https://youtu.be/Xy1TmyiHKqA?si=3okzretaUmy5tiDl
It is in this video starting from 1:40:30
I listen to a lot of funkot mixes and songs, and I keep hearing this particular one, which I really like. But I can't find a name for it. It seems to only be like a beat inbetween songs or as an intro tune. It has no words so it's hard to find. It is such a banger tune!
I really love Indonesian music btw! I love all kinds of things, like om adella, nella kharisma, dangdut and koplo, funkot, sunda pop, ska 86, and also the more arab sounding stuff which I don't know how it's called. For example the song "sing keri cokot boyo" I think that style/genre might be called "mesir" because there is a cool song "runtah versi mesir" but I'm not sure, maybe that's just someone's name or something. and also I like the gamelan stuff too. And the Asian style pop is good too, like "tutu wibowo - no comment" .... And another great one "wong edan kui bebas" and "nyeri nyeri nyeri" and literally 1000s more.... Also I love it when they say "hak'e hak'e" xD
I don't even know much about indonesia but I've been listening to their music for years and I love it all, for some reason. I feel like it's so much more advanced and evolved than any music from other countries, it's like on a whole different level. Everywhere else is just the same old stuff, like pretty much just generic pop/club/edm songs with lame-ass beats. and Indonesian stuff just blows it all out of the water, they are so much more talented than anyone else, in my opinion! And I love the way how Javanese language sounds, it's so awesome and exotic and tropical. I hope one day to learn it. And I love their whole vibe, they always seem so happy and energetic and playful!! I always get such a good mood from listening to it. I would be grateful for any more Indonesian song/artist recommendations, what do you guys like to listen to?
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2023.09.20 09:44 beritaselebterkini Masih Ingat Zaskia Gotik? Vakum jadi Artis, Begini Kabarnya Sekarang

Masih Ingat Zaskia Gotik? Vakum jadi Artis, Begini Kabarnya Sekarang
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Siapa yang belum pernah mendengar tentang penyanyi dangdut Zaskia Gotik, yang pernah menjadi berita utama dalam hiburan Indonesia? Gothic Zaskia, bagaimanapun, baru-baru ini menghilang dari ruang musik dan layar kaca. bagaimana kabar terbaru nya ?
Mari kita simak perjalanan karir dan kehidupan terbaru Zaskia Gotik setelah mengambil jeda dari dunia hiburan.

Vakum dari Panggung Musik

Zaskia Gotik telah menghindari dunia panggung untuk sementara waktu tanpa membuat penampilan lebih lanjut di musik atau di televisi. Setelah melahirkan anak keduanya pada September 2020,
Dibaca juga : Cinta Kunya Tidak Malu Meski Dia Harus Mengunpuli Barang Bekas Di America Sarikat,
ia membuat keputusan untuk istirahat. Dia lebih suka berkonsentrasi merawat dua pemuda dan tanggung jawab keibuannya.

Kabar Terbaru dan Kehidupan Sekarang

Gothic Zaskia masih belum berada di bawah sorotan panggung musik hari ini. Dia lebih fokus mengurus tanggung jawab keibuannya. Dia mengakui bahwa suami Zaskia, Sirajuddin Mahmud, telah menolak permintaannya untuk kembali dan tampil di atas panggung. Zaskia membuat keputusan untuk tetap berhenti karena dia benar-benar memahami keadaan.

Jejak Karir Zaskia Gotik

Zaskia Gotik memulai karirnya dengan mengikuti berbagai kompetisi menyanyi dan memberikan pertunjukan di berbagai kafe sebelum dia naik menjadi penyanyi dangdut terkenal seperti sekarang ini. Namun pada tahun 2011, ketika dia menandatangani kontrak dengan label rekaman Nagaswara, dia memiliki kesempatan. Zaskia berhasil memasuki kancah musik dangdut berkat single debutnya.

Pencapaian dan Pengakuan

Mustahil untuk melihat pencapaian Zaskia Gothic secara visual. Dia telah merilis tujuh album studio sepanjang karirnya di industri musik, yang masing-masing telah mengejutkan pendengar. Pada upacara Inbox Award 2014, ia juga diakui sebagai “Penyanyi Dangdut Paling Wanita.” Dedikasinya pada karyanya terbukti dalam kenyataan bahwa ia merilis 7 video musik dalam satu hari.

Karir Lain di Hiburan

Tidak hanya tampil dalam dunia musik, Zaskia Gotik juga mengukir jejaknya di televisi. Ia sering muncul di berbagai acara seperti "Pesbuker" dan "D'Academy Selebriti." Tak hanya itu, dia juga terlibat dalam proyek-proyek sinetron dan film layar lebar, menunjukkan kecakapannya di berbagai aspek dunia hiburan.
Dengan penekanan pada peran penting sebagai ibu dan keluarganya, Zaskia Gotik telah memilih untuk menepi sejenak dari panggung musik. Meskipun kabarnya masih tetap seputar perannya sebagai ibu, kita tetap berharap melihatnya kembali di dunia hiburan suatu hari nanti. Penggemar dan pengikut setia Zaskia Gotik pasti akan selalu mendukungnya dalam setiap langkahnya
Dibaca juga : Kepolisian Bali Tangani Kasus Pemerkosaan Bule Asal Brasil,
Adapun zaskia gotik Belum Dapat Izin Manggung dari Suami, Zaskia Gotik Sibuk Urus Kedua Buah Hati Ayu Utami Anggraeni Kamis, 25 Mei 2023
Pedangdut Surkianih alias Zaskia Gotik masih belum kembali aktif di dunia hiburan, setelah melahirkan anak keduanya pada 26 September 2022. Pasalnya, dia masih terhalang izin dari sang suami, Sirajudin Machmud. Hiatus dari dunia hiburan, wanita 33 tahun itu lebih memilih untuk menghabiskan waktunya mengurus kedua buah hatinya. "Belom, jadi Eneng masih sama anak-anak, jadi belum bisa kerja dulu, belum bisa nyanyi dulu," kata Zaskia saat ditemui di kawasan Tanjung Duren, Jakarta Barat, Rabu, 24 Mei 2023.
sang suami masih memberikan izin kepada Zaskia keluar rumah untuk melakukan perawatan di klinik kecantikan. "Kalau untuk perawatan kayak gini suami masih izinin. Untuk nyanyi suami masih belum izinin, karena masih harus sama anak-anak," terangnya.
Zaskia mengakui bahwa dirinya telah mendapatkan banyak tawaran untuk manggung. Namun, dia lebih memilih untuk mematuhi suaminya. "Ada, ada (tawaran job), tapi surat jalan belum turun," kata dia. Meskipun begitu, bukan berarti Zaskia berhenti untuk menjadi penyanyi. Dia berjanji akan segera kembali ke atas panggung jika telah mendapat izin dari suami.
Keyword : enak4d, cerdas4d, balap4d,
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2023.06.08 18:31 redditduk [MegaList] SG Gigs & Music Concerts: Mid June (9 - 22 Jun 2023)

22 Jun Update v2: 23rd and 24th list ready on https://sgmusicchat.github.io ! Or view my reddit profile

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18-Jun Sun - Father's Day

 
 

19-Jun Mon

 

20-Jun Tue

 

21-Jun Wed - World Music Day

 

22-Jun Thu

 

Ongoing maybe not music

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