Bom, ano passado eu troquei de escola e nesse ano as coisas são novas pra mim, principalmente a nova escola que eu estou. Na antiga não tinha conseguido fazer amigos e peguei alguns traumas de lá, então fazer amigos nessa nova escola seria difícil, foi quando nos primeiros dias de aula eu fiquei perto do grupinho dos “estranhos e Otakus” até então tudo bem, só que dentre o pessoal do grupinho, tem um menino que vamos chamá-lo de H, H foi um querido desde o começo, foi gentil, educado e fazia de tudo pra não me deixar sozinha etc… só que ainda na primeira semana ele não me deixava respirar, toda hora era grudado em mim mas deixei isso pra lá. Porém eu fui me distanciando aos poucos do grupinho dos estranhos e entrei no grupo “normal” da sala. Só que até agora o H é muito grudento, da até raiva as vezes, ele fica todo momento em meu pé tentando puxar assunto, ou as vezes fica perto me “sufocando”. Esses dias aconteceu algo tão chato! Eu estava conversando com um amigo meu e ele chegou e ficou do nosso lado, então pedi privacidade pois o assunto era delicado e era bem pessoal, ele simplesmente olhou pra minha cara e falou: “Não tem problema, eu quero saber”. Fiquei com ódio e ele não moveu nem um músculo pra sair, ele estava sendo inconveniente ao extremo, simplesmente pegou uma cadeira e sentou do nosso lado, aí eu falei pro meu amigo que iria falar desse assunto depois e o H ficou com raiva de mim!!!!!!! Isso tá insuportável, outro dia ele simplesmente tava me seguindo, pra onde eu ia ele tava indo literalmente atrás de mim!! Sempre que vejo ele eu fecho a cara pra ele pensar que estou com raiva e não vir encher o saco e também quando ele me chama eu finjo não escutar só pra não falar com ele. O problema é que não sei o que falar pra ele pois ele me considera a melhor amiga dele, só que eu não o considero e acho isso que ele faz insuportável, ele é sim uma pessoa boa, só que esse grude dele o faz ficar chato. Sou babaca por isso?

Since after World War II, linguists, due to lack of interest in Kurdish studies, have often neglected the pre-Iranic substratum in Kurdish and focused merely on the Irano-Kurdish layer. Of the Urartian language is not much known either (about 300 words), however, a strong majority of its known words have a identical or at least close equivalent in Kurdish. Urartian though closely related to Hurrian, sound more similar to Kurdish than does Hurrian; this may depend on the fact that Hurrian was spoken at an earlier time period. Mannaean was another Hurro-Urartian-related dialect spoken south of lake Urmia.
It is also worth noting that Armenian scholars have found a few Urartian words in Armenian, which appear to be borrowings via Kurdish.
Urartian: Ale (he says) Kurdish: Ale ئەڵێ (he says)
Urartian: Shuri (sword) Kurdish: Shur شوور (sword) Armenian: Sowr
Urartian: Kuri (foot, leg) Kurdish: Qul قول (foot, leg)
Urartian: xur (deep) Kurdish: xuqul/kur خووڕ/قوول/کوور (deep),
Hurrian: agul (carve) Kurdish: 'kol-[în]' کۆڵین : (to digg), kêla: (plow)
Urartian: shini (you, plural) Kurdish: hin هین/هون (you, plural, cf. sh>h a regular sound change in Kurdish)
Urartian: apa (he/she/it) Kurdish: awa, aw/ava, av cf. Kurdish p>w and p>v ئەوە (he/she/it)
Urartian: Sale (kid) Kurdish: Zaro زارۆ (kid) Armenian: jar (he-goat)
Urartian: tali (stick) Kurdish: têla (stick, cf. Kurdish a>ê)
10) Urartian: papi/bab/babani (mountain top) Kurdish: pope پۆپە (head)/ bani بانی (mountain top)
Urartian: qal/kar (kill/slay, subjugate) Kurdish: qir قڕ (kill, slay, cf Kurdish a>i)
Hurrian: shur (war) Kurdish: sher شەڕ (war)
Urartian: bidia (turn) Kurdish: bada-n بادان (turn)
Urartian: da (give) Kurdish: da, دا (give, Iranic and other IE languages have a similar lexeme)
Urartian: xus/hush (throw) Kurdish: xis-[tin]/hawish-[tin] خستن/هاویشتن (throw, cf Kurdish u>i)
Urartian: karbe (rock, stone) Kurdish: karra کەڕا (rock, stone) Armenian: qar (rock, stone)
Urartian: quira (earth, dust) Kurdish: qur, xol قوڕ/خۆڵ (earth, dust)
Hurrian: arte (earth, soil) Kurdish: ard ئەرد/هەرد (earth, soil, cf Kurdish rt > rd)
Urartian: $erab (dry) Kurdish: chora چۆڕا (dry) Armenian: caraw (dry)
20) Urartian: eue (and) Kurdish: u ئوو (and) but see even Iranic ''ut''
Urartian: tur ( to leave) Kurdish: tor-[an], تۆران to leave
Urartian: ul (to go) Kurdish: lu-wan لوان (to go)
Urartian: ulhu (order) Kurdish: ol ئۆل (religion)
Urartian: bura (slave, servant) Kurdish: bora بۆرە (commoner, low-class)
Urartian: xarxar (destroy) Kurdish: xirxal خرخاڵ (destroyed)
Urartian: ale (but) Kurdish: lê لێ (but)
Urartian: duli (grape) Kurdish: trê, tirî ترێ (grape, cf. l>r and u>i) Armenian: toli (grape)
Urartian: kapi (capacity measure) Kurdish: kap/qap کاپ/قاپ (capacity measure)
Urartian: nah (to bring) Kurdish: hên-an/han-în هانین/هێنان (to bring)
30) Urartian: pare (toward) Kurdish: pîr پیر (toward),
Urartian: pile (water canal) Kurdish: pil-û-sk پلووسک (rain canal)
Urartian: tan (lay down) Kurdish: dan-[an] دانان (lay down)
Hurrian: id- (hit, strike) Kurdish: -d- (hit strike); ([lê] d-[an])
Urartian: teq- (to thump, to break) Kurdish: teq-[în] تەقین (to thump, to break)
Urartian: uzgi (power, strength) Kurdish: wuze وزە (power, strength, cf. Kurdish u- > w-)
Urartian: mari (lord, horseman) Kurdish: mir میر (lord, compare also with the Semitic ''Amir'')
Urartian: shu/shia (to go) Kurdish: chu, چوو (to go, cf. also Iranic ''shiyaw'')
Urartian: euri (lord) Kurdish: hêwir هێور (brave)
Urartian: xarari (calm) Kurdish: oqre ئۆقرە (calm), Armenian:
40) Urartian: zar (orchard) Kurdish: zar زار (orchard) Armenian: car (tree)
Urartian: ur (to place down) Kurdish: wer-[in], وەرین (to place down, cf. Kurdish u-> w- )
Urartian: wal, (to win) Kurdish: wêr-an وێران (to dare)
Urartian: zelbi (descendant) Kurdish: zol زۆڵ (bastard)
Urartian: zeld, (to shatter the enemies) Kurdish: zal زاڵ (to shatter the enemies)
Urartian: qarqar (throat) Kurdish: qurg قورگ (throat, compare also with the Irano-Kurdish garû, and Persian galu, there is also another word in Kurdish: qurquroska)
Hurrian: kut/kud (to make fall, to kill) Urartian: qot (piece) Kurdish: kut کوت (piece), kut-a کوتان (to smash), kud (to kill)
Urartian: xubi (valley) Kurdish: qopi قۆپی (valley, vale, plain)
Urartian: xare (to march, to raid) Kurdish: xar غار (to march, to raid)
Hurrian: Hiuri (smoke) Kurdish: Hulm هوڵم (steam)
50) Urartian: $ue (river, lake) Kurdish: chom/gom چۆم/گۆم (rive lake) Armenian: cov (lake)
Hurrian: tiv (word) Urartian: tiw (to speak) Kurdish: diw-an دوان (to speak)
Urartian: abeli/aweli (attach, increase) Kurdish: awale/awela ئاواڵە/ئاوەڵا (open)
Urartian: an, (no) Kurdish: na, نا (no; there is also a similar equivalent in Iranic)
Urartian: ari-beri Kurdish: birin برن (to carry, there is also a similar equivalent in Iranic)
Urartian: ewani/ebani (land) Kurdish: -wan وان (suffix used after place-names)
Urartian: kulune (side) Kurdish: qulin-chk قولینچک/ qurne قوڕنە (side, corner) Armenian: koln
Urartian: man (to stay) Kurdish: man مان (to stay), (resembles even Iranic, cf. New Persian ''mandan'')
Urartian: mana Urartian: me (prohibitive particle) Kurdish: me مە (prohibitive particle)
60) Urartian: pahi (cattle) Hurrian: pedari (cattle) Kassite: badar (bull, cattle) Kurdish: patal پاتاڵ (cattle) Armenian: paxre
Urartian: par, to take off Kurdish: pirr [-dan] پڕ (to take off, cf. Kurdish a>i)
Urartian: kamn (old, earlier) Kurdish: kavn/kawn کەڤن/کەون (old, cf. m>v but also Iranic ''kohan'' which has led to Kurdish ''kon'')
Urartian: pe? (under) Kurdish: pe? پێ (under, foot, cf. even Iranic pey)
Urartian: shid (build) Kurdish: chê-[kirin], چێ (build cf, kurdish d>nil)
Hurrian: awari Kurdish: awari ئەواری (land, country, field, cf. kurdawari, کوردەواری / warê me وارێ مە) (Armenian agarak has been suggested as an Armenian loan from 'awari'. Kurdish has even 'garak' with the same meaning). Urartian: ur (territory)
Urartian: qapqari Kurdish: gamaro (p>w>m cf Kurdish ziman Urartian: sher (hide) Kurdish: sheshar شێر/وەشارتن (hide)
Urartian: quldi (uninhabited) Kurdish: kawil (کاول) (annihilate,destruction)
Urartian: ar- (give) Kurdish: ar- (give, dialectal as in Slêmanî, for example: ''bi-ar-ê'': بیەرێ ''give him'')
70) Urartian: ture (destroy) Kurdish: ture تووڕە (angry)
Urartian: aba (desire) Kurdish: awat ئاوات (desire), aw-in ئەوین (to love)
Urartian: ada (again) Kurdish: idi ئیدی (another, anymore)
Urartian: shal-i (year) Kurdish: sal ساڵ (year, but Iranian ''sard'', New Persian has also ''sal'') Armenian: tari
Urartian: šeh-i/eri/e, living Kurdish: zhiyar ژیار (living)
Urartian: arnu-ia (come to the aid of) Kurdish: hana هانا (come to the aid of, cf Kurdish a- >ha- )
Urartian: lak- (to destroy) Kurdish: Rûx-[an] رووخان (to destroy)
Urartian: 'are (granary) Kurdish: harr هاڕ (granary, cf Kurdish ha-<-a, notice 'zimharr' زمهاڕ, meaning 'winter granary')
Urartian: ieshti (here) Kurdish: hêsthte هێشتە (now)
Urartian: meshe (part, tribute, share) Kurdish: mûche مووچە (part, tribute, share)
80) Urartian: pi$ushe (joy) Kurdish: pishû پشوو (holyday, vacation)
Hurrian: sheshe (six) Kurdish: shesh شەش (six, but it is the same even in Iranic)
Urartian: izidu (admonish, command) Kurdish: ezidi ئێزیدی (name of a native religion in Kurdistan)
urartian: yarani (kind of cultic building, altar) Kurdish: yari یاری (name of a native religion in Kurdistan)
Urartian: aleu (dignity) Kurdish: alewi ئالەوی (name of a native religion in Kurdistan)
Urartian and Hurrian: /-i/, /-iye/ (his, her, its) Kurdish: /-i/, /-y/ ی (his, her, its)
Hurrian: /-v/ (your) Kurdish: /-w/ و (your)
Urartian: ushanu (award, bestow, feel affection for ) Kurdish: wuchan وچان (rest, reprieve)
Urartian: napahia (submission, bondage, domestication) Kurdish: nawi نەوی (low, a low level, position or degree), (p>w)
Urartian: tur (defeat, destroy) Kurdish: dor- دۆڕ (defeat)
90) Urartian: sal-zi (steep, abrupt) Kurdish: sila سڵا (height)
Urartian: sil-e (woman, doughter) Kurdish: selar سەلار (mistress of the house, beautiful woman) (note ''Selardi'', a lunar goddess of Urartu)
Urartian: lutu (woman) Kurdish: lute لووتە (quoquettish woman)
Urartian: uldie (vineyard) Kurdish: lote لۆتە (grapes hanged in order to be sun dried in a vineyard)
Urartian: nikidu (water) Kurdish: niqdo/niqût نقووت/نقدۆ (water infiltration, water dropping, water penetration), (plus some other cognates of the word)
Urartian: kan/kain (in front of) Kurdish: kin کن (in front of, near) (but cf. also Iranic ''kenar'')
Urartian: haš-ia: (be interested in) Kurdish: haz حەز (be interested in, love, like)
Urartian: d-u-: (do, cause to do) Kurdish: da/di: ده/د (do, cause to do, used as a preffix for verbs)
Urartian: shalur (medlar) Kurdish: shalor شەلۆر (nectarine) Armenian: salor (plum) (clearly borrowed via Kurdish)
Urartian: mure (house) Kurdish: mal ماڵ (house)
100) Urartian: urishi (weapon) Kurdish: hereshe هەڕەشە (threat), /(there is also ''huruzhim'': هوروژم attack)
Hurrian: shini (two) Kurdish: shingil شنگڵ (twin, twin fruit)
Urartian: egur-hu (free) Kurdish: xorayi خۆرایی (free)
Urartian: bad-gul (surround) Kurdish: bawe-xulê باوەخولێ (turn around, also a kids game)
Urartian: aish-ti (leap, jump) Kurdish: hej-an هەژان (quake)
Urartian: ibirani (whole, complete, full) Kurdish: pirani پڕانی (majority)
Hurrian: hinzur (apple? pear?) Kurdish: hencor هەنجۆر (unripe melon)
Urartian: kut-u (reach) Kurdish: (geh<*ged) گەهشتن/گەیشتن (reach)
Urartian: ai/ay: (look, take care) Kurdish: aw-ir ئاوڕ (look)
Urartian: di/erasia (fear) Kurdish: tirs ترس (fear, but cf. also Iranic ''tars'')
110) Urartian: Ti/er-usi, measure for liquid Kurdish: Telîs?تەلیس measure of unit
Hurrian: ben Kassite: ban Kurdish: minal مناڵ (child)
Kassite: nadz (shade) Kurdish: nisê نسێ (shade)
Kassite: ulam (son, child) Urartian: alaue (man) Kurdish: law لاو (young boy)
Hurrian: çugi Kassite: tsugi Kurdish: chuk چووک (small)
Hurrian: ewri (dog) Kurdish wer-în وەرین (barking of dog)
Hurrian: shiye (watery) Kurdish: she شە (moisture)
Urartian: zainua (high) Kurdish: zinar زنار (high cliff, high boulder)
Hurrian: shalmi (ashes, to burn) Kurdish zhilemo ژیلەمۆ (burning ashes)
Urartian: amash (burnt) Kurdish mêsh مێش (burnt ashes) (cf. ê 120) Hurrian: puhi (nose) Kurdish: (kepû) کەپۆ (nose)
Urartian: shepuiaru (spoil) Kurdish: sheprêwشپڕێو (disorderly)
Urartian: mesh- (distribute, share) Kurdish: wesh-[an] وەشان (distribute, share)
Urartian: teribi (monument) Kurdish: tirb ترب (monument, grave) (not be confused with Arabic 'turbat': soil)
Hurrian: fur-i (viw) Urartian: wur-i (view) Kurdish: wuria وریا (viewer, careful), awur ئاووڕ (sight), (even the Kurdish verb ''ruwan''-[in] (view) is likely connected to the Urartian ''wur'', rarther than being a metathesis for Iranic ''negar'')
Hurrian: halv- (enclose) Kurdish: hal- هاڵ (enclose)
Urartian: kul-me (wealth, prosperity) Kurdish: kel-k کەڵک (profitable, usefulness)
Hurrian: pâl (false) Kurdish: fêl فێڵ (fraud)
Hurrian: tapsh- (destroy) Kurdish: tawjm تەوژم (pressure), tapi (destroy)
Hurrian: apxe (louse) Kurdish: aspe ئەسپێ (louse)
130) Hurrian: kapp- (fill) Kurdish: kipp کپ (filled)
Hurrian: azhoge (meal) Kurdish: azhge/zig (stomach)
Hurrian: kul- (to speak) Kurdish: qul- قوول (to speak aloud)
Hurrian: timeri (black) Kurdish: tem تەم (darkness)
Urartian: tara-gie (powerful, strong) Kurdish: daraqat دەرەقەت (to be powerful, to be strong)
Urartian: tam-hu (eliminate separate) Kurdish: toq-[andin] Urartian: shi-u (carry away) Kurdish: shi-[andin] (send)
Urartian: anda-ni (right) Kurdish: and ئاند (right)
Urartian: irb-u (take away grab) Kurdish: rev-[andin]/rif-[andin] (take away, grab) (but cf. also Iranian 'robudan', take away, grab)
Urartian: pit- (beat apart, destroy) Kurdish: pis-/pichr- (beat apart, destroy)
140) Urartian: tishni (heart) Kurdish: dine دنە (encourage) (cf. t > d & sh > nil)
Urartian: ti-ni (name) Kurdish: deng دەنگ (voice)
Urartian: bauše (word) Kurdish: wuše وشە (word)
Urartian: durba (revolt, rebel) Kurdish: tola (revenge)
Urartian: hut-ia (to ask) Kurdish: qut-abî (student)
Hurrian: fir (remove, untie) Kurdish: fir, firê (throw)
Hurrian: halme (singing) Kurdish: hore هۆرە (singing)
Hurrian: havur (heaven) Kurdish: hawr (cloud), (note also Indo-Iranic abra)
Urartian: agu (lead away) (of IE origin?) Kurdish: ajo-[tin] ئاژۆتن (lead away, drive)
Hurrian: asti (woman) Kurdish: astê (name of a beloved woman in Kurdish folklore)
150) Hurrian: tav/(-b) (to cast metal) Kurdish: taw (thaw, melt)
Hurrian: ai (if) Kurdish: ai (if)
Hurrian: alilan (lament) Kurdish: lalan (lament)
Hurrian: çabalgi (fault) Kurdish: çapal چەپەڵ (dirty)
Hurrian: xiyari (all) Kurdish: xir (all)
Hurrian: çere (donkey) Kurdish: ker (donkey)
Hurrian: çik- (break) Kurdish: shik- (break)
Hurrian: xîri (hour, time, moment) Kurdish: xêra خێرا (soon, hurry)
Hurrian: xizli (coiled) Kurdish: cexiz جەخز(coiled)
Hurrian: xub- (to break, to destroy) Kurdish: qup- (to break, to destroy)
160) Hurrian: istani (between, among) Kurdish: astang ئاستەنگ (obstacle)
Hurrian: izikun- (to wail) Kurdish: zikan- (to wail)
Hurrian: kakari (sort of ritual bread) Kurdish: kullêre, kellane (sort of ritual bread)
Hurrian: magunni (desire) Kurdish: magirani (desire)
‌Hurrian: shakari or sagari (sprout, bud) Kurdish: chakara چەکەرە (sprout, bud)
Hurrian: arushal (hurry) Kurdish: halasha هەڵەشە (stressful)
Hurrian: heni (now) Kurdish: henu-ke, niha, neha (now)
Hurrian: parili (crime) Kurdish: palamar پەلامار (attack)
Hurrian: adi (thus) Kurdish: dai (thus)
Hurrian: ak-i/u (other) Kurdish: -ka (other)
170) Hurrian: we (thou) Kurdish: ê-we (you)
Hurrian: buru (strong) Kurdish: wure ورە (strength)
Hurrian: çam (rip) Kurdish çam (bend)
Hurrian: zurgi (blood) Kurdish: zûx (blood), (compare, xwênaw=zûxaw)
Hurrian: xahli (cheek) Kurdish: kulm (cheek)
Hurrian: halwu (fence made with stones) Kurdish: hêl هێڵ (fence)
Hurrian: xawirni (lamb) Kurdish kawir کاوڕ (young sheep)
Hurrian: xamaz- (oppress) Kurdish chaws- (oppress)
Hurrian: hendz (constrain) Kurdish: hêndj (constrain)
Hurrian: xerari (sinew) Kurdish: kiroje (sinew)
180) Hurrian: xeshmi (bright) Kurdish: gesh (bright)
Hurrian: kalgi (weak) Kurdish qals/qirj (weak)
Hurrian: nali (deer) Kurdish: nêrî (male adult goat)
Hurrian: nawn- (pasture) Kurdish: naw- (pasture)
Hurrian: ul- (to, eat, to devour) Kurdish: lawar( la-war-) (to devour)
Hurrian: ubi (stupid, insane) Kurdish: hapa (stupid, insane)
Hurrian: ashxu (high) Kurdish: shax (mountain), also 'asê' means: uppward, high.
Hurrian: kaziari (high mountains of the Mesopotamian valley) Kurdish: kazh (high mountain)
Hurrian: kewiranna (the senate, the old men) Kurdish: gewran (the big ones, the adult ones)
Hurrian: kuzh- (to keep, to retain) Kurdish: kush- (to hold in hands, to press in hands), alt: Kurdish qoz- (to catch)
190) Hurrian: nekri ( Hurrian: shalhi (to listen) Kurdish: shil (listen)
Hurrian: siba (dry) Kurdish: zuwa زوا (dry)
Urartian: dibi (building, room) Kurdish: diw دیو (room)
Hurrian: shu (day) Kurdish: shawa-ki (morning, day)
Hurrian: shirat (narrate) Kurdish: shirove (narrate)
Hurrian: tishan (very much) Kurdish: tizha تژە (full)
Urartian: sutug (tear away, unjoin) Kurdish: shetek (knot)
Urartian: gey (anything) Kurdish gi گ (anything)
Hurrian: baz (enter) Kurdish: baz (pass by)
200) Hurrian: xeban-: (to set moving) Kurdish: xebi- خەبتین (to be active)
Hurrian: hamadz-: (to oppress) Kurdish: chaws- (to oppress)
Hurrian: haz- (to hear) Kurdish: bihiz-: (to hear)
Hurrian: xaz (to oil) Kurdish: xiz (oily, slippery)
Hurrian: pas- (to send somebody) Kurdish: pas- (to send, as in 'hal pasardin': 'to send into exile')
‌Hurrian: shagari (ram) Kurdish: shak (young sheep)
Hurrian: pal (know, understand) Kurdish: fêr (learn)
Urartian: -kai (position, in place) Kurdish: -ka (location suffix)
Urartian: muš- (true, fair) Kurdish: mušur موشوور (fairness)
Hurrian: abi (in front of) Kurdish: ba (in front of, near)
210) Hurrian: shimi (sun) Kurdish: shem (sun) (focilized in shemshemekwere, ''blind for the sun'': ''bat''.
Urartian: derzu/derju (order, arrangement) Kurdish: darêj- (order, arrangement)
Urartian: tep- (throw down) Kurdish: tep- (throw down)
Urartian: atqan: (to consecrate) Kurdish: tarxân (to consecrate)
Urartian: shuki (as) Kurdish: waki < hoki Hurrian: hur (drink) Urartian: xurishe (irrigator) Kurdish: qurishke قوریشکە (cup)
Urartian: ulx (flow out) Kurdish: bilqبڵق (b Urartian: alga-ni (mountain) Kurdish: Lêj لێژ (abrupt, steep)
Urartian: auiei (somewher) Kurdish: awê ئەوێ (there)
Urartian: puluse (inscription, stele) Kurdish: psule (voucher, receipt)
220) Urartian: niribe (herd) Kurdish: ran (herd)
Urartian: iese/ieshe? (I, pronoun) Kurdish: ez ئەز (I, resembles also the old Iranian 'azm', but which one is 'az' actually derives of? Armenians claim Armenian 'yes' (I) is derived of Ur. 'iese
Urartian: armuzi (family, clan, generation) Kurdish: hoz هۆز (clan) + rama (seed, from to-rama)
Hurrian: hemz (surround) Kurdish: amêz, hembêz ئامیز (hug)
Urartian: zani (cry out) Kurdish: zhan, jan, ژان (agony)
Hurrian: karshi (lips) Kurdish: kalpa کەڵپە (animal lips)
Hurrian: wirwir (loosen) Kurdish: wilwil ولوڵ (loosen)
Kassite: ash (earth, soil) Hurrian: esh (earth, soil) Kurdish: ax ئاخ (earth, soil)
Urartian: qarmexî (gift, present, sacrifice, celebration) Kurdish: qelin قەلین (gift, dowry)
Urartian: -atuhi (-ness) Kurdish: -ati (-ness)
230) Urartian: aman- (vessel, pot) Kurdish: aman- ئامان (vessel, pot)
God of lightning and storm Hurrian: Teshup Urartian: Tesheba Kassite: Tishpak Kurdish: Tishk تیشک (light, radiance)
Hurrian: shu (hand) Kurdish: shop (hand palm)
Hurrian: chilman- (to break, vanish) Kurdish: chilmis- (fade)
Urartian: shur (wall around a castle, fence, borders of the kingdom) Kurdish: shure (wall around a castle, fence)
Hurrian: xalwu (fence made with stones) Kurdish: xal خەڵ (fence made with stones)
Hurrian: ya/ye (who, which, what) Kurdish: ya/ye (who, which, what)
Hurrian: tun- (to win) Kurdish: tuna توونا (defeated, destroyed)
Hurrian: taridi (pot) Kurdish: tirar (pot)
Hurrian: kol (let off) Kurdish: kol (let off) (as in ''le kol bunewe'')
240) Hurrian:shir (to be suffiecent) Kurdish: têr (to be suffiecent)
Hurrian: ha (take) Kurdish: ha
Hurrian: tijari (spindle) Kurdish: teshi (spindle)
Hurrian: ábri (stock of wood-logs) Kurdish: awirdu (stock of wood-logs), awirig (oven)
Hurrian: baq- (destroy) Kurdish: baq- بەقین (explode)
Hurrian: bashi (mouth)Armenianlake Urmia Kurdish: bêj (to say), (common a>ê)
Hurrian: pashixi (message) Kurdish: pazhux (answer)
Hurrian: tad- (love) Kurdish: dalal (beloved) (common d>l)
Hurrian: tagi (beatiful) Urartian: taugi (clean) Kurdish: daq دەق (cheerful)
Hurrian: hild-/held- (high, raise, elevate) Kurdish: hild-/held- هەڵدان/هڵدان (rasie, elevate)
250) ‌Hurrian: kabli (copper) Kurdish: paqir پاقڕ (copper)
Kassite: kukla (slave) Kurdish: kukla (doll), kukm (homeless)
Hurrian: kumdi (tower) Kurdish: kumadj کۆماج (column)
Hurrian: kubakhi (hood) Kurdish: kumik (hood)
Urartian: korde (uncultivated, desolate) Kurdish: kode (uncultivated, desolate)
Hurrian: kundzi (to kneel) Kurdish: kudik (knee)
Hurrian: Xiríti (trench) Kurdish: Xir (trench)

Hi. This may be a long shot but - I visited Gdansk last summer and shopped at Galeria Bałtycka. They had a bikini-store there with really gorgeous bikinis/swimwear and I ended up not buying anything which I regret.. I would love to know if they have a website I can order from, BUT I can’t remember the name of the store.. Here’s what I do remember.

• Small boutique
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Western media stopped talking honestly about Ukraine years ago. I watched as even outlets like Democracy Now! stopped reporting on the CIA backed coup there in 2014, and subsequent nazi problems which were in the NYT for years. There is still a law in effect that we cant give weapons to Azovs, which is obviously ignored. We gave long range missiles to Urkaine. The HIMARS and Patriot batteries arent trusted to Azovs, we staff them. French journalists embedded w Syrian volunteers shot video of US Army uniformed soldiers doing intake and command/control. American boots are on the ground. We threaten Russia existentially. Putin had been trying for a decade to get Western journalists to pay attention--Oliver Stone made a movie--before he joined an ongoing civil war.
Pepe Escobar, impeccable creds, got from a source, independently confirmed by two states, that Israel loaded nukes on a bomber and was gonna EMP Iran. But Russian fighters shot it down.
It explains a lot of posturing that changed at the time. Powerful people think it happened
https://youtu.be/hCoTdl7BLNo?si=3FLD2k6Bxb4phu9Q
https://youtu.be/U_z1ifGYwr8?si=u-Ge5j-mnMiVC8v5
But lets focus on Trump's hush money trial, amirite?
The orgs that track nuclear war risk say we are closer than the Cuban Missile Crisis.

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1. mésplē

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The ancient Scythian language, thought to be Iranian, is known from only a few fragments, often from Greek sources. Scythian mésplē ‘moon’ is a gloss in the lexicon of Hesychius that has given me lots of trouble over the years. This does not look Iranian. When most linguists see the moon called mésplē, they probably say something like, “It must have meant ‘full moon’ (PIE *pleH2- ‘fill’) and been garbled when someone pointed to the moon, it happened to be full, and a Scythian gave that word; maybe it’s not even really Scythian: they didn’t have Indo-European *ē retained as ē.” Instead, I think this shows that Scythian was indeed an Iranian language, it shows no *ē > ē, and it didn’t meant ‘full moon’, just ‘moon’.
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First, ancient descriptions of Scythian do not all seem to refer to one language. If Indo-European at all, the words show contradictory changes. If the Scythians were a confederation of related tribes, most Iranian or very close, it would make more sense. Therefore, each word should be analyzed by itself before conclusions about its context are made (some sets of words given by a single source are likely from a single language, also). If one word shows a similarity to one modern group, that doesn’t mean another word only underwent changes from the same group.
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Second, the Iranian words for ‘moon’ are not all directly related to PIE *meH1ns-. The group of Kho. māśti, Ps. myāšt / miyāst (f), Sar. most ‘month’, Shu. mæst / mēst ‘moon’ has no clear etymology, and no suffix can explain alternation of s / š, etc. Most of these require umlauted *mǣs(^)ti-, with *ǣ > yā in Ps., etc. Other Iran. words are compounds, like Ps. spōẓmaī ‘moon(light)’, Waz. špēžmai. Morgenstierne derived them from a cognate of PIE *spek^to- > Av. spašta, Skt. spaṣṭá- ‘clearly perceived/discerned/visible’, L. spectus (Morgenstierne 1927). Though he said that *-ā- here was unexplained, optional št / xšt exists in *spek^ti- > Av. spaxšti- ‘vision’, so it’s possible that *spaxšta-maHahaka- > *spaxšt-māhaka- > *spāšt-māhax > spōẓmaī, with *x lost (with compensatory lengthening) before *štm (or similar). Since there is no other example even of plain *štm, lengthening might be due to loss of *t or other causes. Even if it was in a compound, only the -m- remained recognizable here, showing that no relation can be taken for granted just because it is not immediately obvious.
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Third, in Dardic the compound *mās-rōka- ‘moon(light)’ became Ks. mastrúk ‘month / moon(light)’. Since this is very similar to spōẓmaī, but the opposite order, it seems very likely that mésplē has its -spl- due to a similar compound. Since there are several Iran. words beginning with sp- associated with ‘light / white / heaven’, if māśti, etc., represent older *māšpti < *māšpiti, comparing them would lead to *spiti-, the form of Iran. *śviθra- ‘white / sky’ (NP sipihr ‘sky / heaven’) used in compounds, as in Av. Spity-ura- (Nikolaev 2021). It seems best for this to come from *-i- in IIr. *śvitira- > Skt. śvitrá- ‘white’, in compounds śviti-. It would often be lost, like other IE *-V- (Whalen 2022). Another such compound (of opposite meanings) in PIE *kWersino-> *kW(e)rsno- ‘black’ but *kWersi- in compounds (see Av. Karšiptar- below).
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Iran. *māh-špiti- could have lost *-i- by i-i dissimilation. If it was formed before *-s > *-h (or not in sandhi s#S ?), it might have been *mās-špiti- / *mās-śpiti- (possibly showing that *-sśC- became *-sšC-, or similar). Otherwise, *-hśpt- > -št- / -st-. Obviously, with no other examples of C-clusters like this, exact details are hard to find. If *mǣs(^)ti- was thus really *mǣšpti- or similar, Scythian could easily have changed *-spt- > -spl-. Many dentals became *d > *ð > l in Ps., and it is even possible that *-t- became *-d- between V’s before *māh-špidi- > *māh-špdi-, with this cluster soon being “fixed” by different changes in each sub-branch. If *ā-i umlauted to *mǣ-i in all these first, it would explain e-ē in mésplē. It is not clear how Greeks would perceive or write sounds like æ at the time, but using ē for i is known both in loans and within G. dialects (after ē > i in some).
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1. spēẓ̌ma

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Morgenstierne had no good etymology for Ps. s(p)aẓ̌ma / spēẓ̌ma ‘nostril’. Looking at other IE words, many mean both ‘nose / snot’ :
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Skt. nasta-s, Bs. natúur ‘nose’, Kh. nastùḷi ‘runny snot’
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Bu. -múš ‘nose / snot’
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*snutta-z > ME snot(te), E. snot, *snūtan- > ME snoute, E. snout
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*srunghos- > G. rhúgkhos ‘pig’s snout’, *srunghon- > Arm. ṙngunk’ ‘nostrils’, Skt. śṛŋkhāṇikā-, Pkt. suṃghai / siṃghai ‘mucus’, *srumx- > Kh. šumkh- ‘to smell’
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This allows the possibility that spēẓ̌ma is related to
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Skt. śreṣ- ‘adhere / stick / be attached’, śreṣmán- ‘mucus’ > *slisma > Rom. lim, Dk. līma, etc.
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with some metathesis, etc. The starting point might be related to Scythian having optional m / p > mp (Whalen 2024) :
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the river called Exampaîos ‘sacred roads’; *yaks- > *yexš- (Kho. gyaṣ- ‘sacrifice / make offering’, Skt. yakṣá-m ‘a kind of supernatural being’), *pathya- ‘path (adj.?)’ > *pa(h)ya-; *yaxšapathya- > *yexšampahya-.
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Scythian Argímpasa (a goddess equated with Aphrodite); *arti-patni: > *arḍi-paθna: > *aRgi-pasna > *argi-pasa > Argímpasa
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*dramanti ‘they run’ > *drampanči
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If the example of mésplē showed that some forms of Scythian were close to languages further to the east, *m > *mp in a cognate of śreṣmán- could allow:
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*śraiṣmā > *śraiṣmpā > *śpairṣmā > *spaerẓ̌mā > s(p)aẓ̌ma / spēẓ̌ma
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with *-ṣmp- “fixed” by metathesis. With no other examples of *-aerẓ̌m- or similar sequences, the V’s might have regular outcomes.
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Line Score - Game Over

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E	LOB
OAK	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2	0	4	8	1	4
SEA	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	0		8	8	1	3

Box Score

SEA		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
SS	Moore, D	3	1	1	1	0	0	.222
CF	Rodríguez, J	3	2	2	2	1	0	.255
RF	Haniger	4	0	0	0	0	1	.203
DH	Garver	3	1	2	3	1	1	.179
2B	Polanco	4	0	1	0	0	1	.188
1B	France, T	4	1	0	0	0	1	.235
3B	Urías, L	2	1	0	0	2	1	.175
C	Zavala	3	1	1	1	0	1	.200
LF	Haggerty	3	1	1	1	0	1	.083

SEA	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Castillo, L	6.0	7	2	2	0	8	100-64	3.31
Voth	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	14-9	2.65
Bolton	1.0	1	2	2	1	1	17-9	4.05
Muñoz, A	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	9-5	1.76

OAK		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
2B	Toro	4	1	2	1	0	0	.299
1B	Nevin	3	0	0	0	1	1	.252
CF	Bleday	4	1	2	0	0	0	.248
LF	Rooker	4	1	2	2	0	1	.292
C	Langeliers	4	0	1	0	0	3	.213
DH	Davis, J	4	0	0	0	0	2	.205
RF	Butler, L	4	0	0	0	0	1	.176
SS	Schuemann	4	1	1	1	0	0	.204
3B	Harris, B	3	0	0	0	0	1	.156

OAK	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Wood	2.0	4	5	1	1	1	60-36	5.26
Muller	4.0	4	3	3	0	5	51-36	3.90
Ferguson, T	1.0	0	0	0	2	1	19-10	0.00
McFarland	1.0	0	0	0	1	0	14-7	5.06

Scoring Plays

Inning	Event	Score
B1	Mitch Garver singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder JJ Bleday. Dylan Moore scores.	1-0
B2	Sam Haggerty singles on a ground ball to center fielder JJ Bleday. Ty France scores. Luis Urías to 3rd.	2-0
B2	Dylan Moore out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder JJ Bleday. Luis Urías scores.	3-0
B2	Julio Rodríguez homers (2) on a fly ball to center field. Sam Haggerty scores.	5-0
T5	Max Schuemann homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.	5-1
B5	Mitch Garver homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. Julio Rodríguez scores.	7-1
T6	Abraham Toro homers (4) on a fly ball to right field.	7-2
B6	Seby Zavala homers (1) on a fly ball to left field.	8-2
T8	Brent Rooker homers (10) on a fly ball to left field. JJ Bleday scores.	8-4

Highlights

Description	Length
Luis Castillo against the Athletics	0:09
Bullpen availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Bench availability for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:07
Fielding alignment for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:11
Fielding alignment for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:11
Bench availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Starting lineups for Athletics at Mariners - May 12, 2024	0:09
Measuring the stats on Julio Rodríguez's home run	0:06
Breaking down Alex Wood's pitches	0:04
Breaking down Max Schuemann's home run	0:12
The distance behind Mitch Garver's home run	0:13
Breaking down Kyle Muller's pitches	0:04
Luis Castillo's outing against the Athletics	0:23
Breaking down Luis Castillo's pitches	0:04
Brent Rooker: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:13
Seby Zavala: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:12
The distance behind Abraham Toro's home run	0:11
Mitch Garver's RBI single	0:14
Sam Haggerty's RBI single	0:15
Dylan Moore's sac fly	0:16
Julio Rodríguez's two-run home run (2)	0:28
Max Schuemann's solo home run (2)	0:27
Mitch Garver's two-run home run (5)	0:27
Abraham Toro's solo home run (4)	0:26
Seby Zavala's solo home run (1)	0:27
Nevin's nice play after a review	1:30
Luis Urías' snags line dive	0:24
Brent Rooker's two-run home run (10)	0:29

Decisions

Winning Pitcher	Losing Pitcher	Save
Castillo, L (4-5, 3.31 ERA)	Wood (1-3, 5.26 ERA)

Attendance	Weather	Wind
	65°F, Sunny	1 mph, In From LF

HP	1B	2B	3B
Alex MacKay	Alfonso Márquez	Lance Barrett	Roberto Ortiz

Game ended at 3:30 PM.

Athletics @ Mariners - Sun, May 12

Game Status: Game Over - Score: 8-4 Mariners

Links & Info

• MLB Gameday
• Game Graphs
• Savant Gamefeed
• Discord

Team	Highlight
SEA	Mitch Garver's RBI single (00:00:14)
SEA	Dylan Moore's sac fly (00:00:16)
SEA	Julio Rodríguez's two-run home run (2) (00:00:28)
OAK	Max Schuemann's solo home run (2) (00:00:27)
SEA	Mitch Garver's two-run home run (5) (00:00:27)
OAK	Abraham Toro's solo home run (4) (00:00:26)
SEA	Seby Zavala's solo home run (1) (00:00:27)
SEA	Nevin's nice play after a review (00:01:30)
SEA	Luis Urías' snags line dive (00:00:24)
OAK	Brent Rooker's two-run home run (10) (00:00:29)

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9		R	H	E	LOB
Athletics	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2	0		4	8	1	4
Mariners	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	0			8	8	1	3

Decisions

• Winner: Luis Castillo (4-5, 3.31)
• Loser: Alex Wood (1-3, 5.26)

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Athletics (19-22) @ Mariners (21-19)

First Pitch: 4:10 PM at T-Mobile Park

Team	Starter	TV	Radio
Athletics	Alex Wood (1-2, 5.30 ERA)	NBCSCA	A's Cast
Mariners	Luis Castillo (3-5, 3.35 ERA)	RSNW	KIRO

MLB	Fangraphs	Reddit Stream	IRC Chat
Gameday	Game Graph	Live Comments	Libera: ##baseball

Line Score - Game Over

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E	LOB
OAK	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2	0	4	8	1	4
SEA	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	0		8	8	1	3

Box Score

SEA		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
SS	Moore, D	3	1	1	1	0	0	.222
CF	Rodríguez, J	3	2	2	2	1	0	.255
RF	Haniger	4	0	0	0	0	1	.203
DH	Garver	3	1	2	3	1	1	.179
2B	Polanco	4	0	1	0	0	1	.188
1B	France, T	4	1	0	0	0	1	.235
3B	Urías, L	2	1	0	0	2	1	.175
C	Zavala	3	1	1	1	0	1	.200
LF	Haggerty	3	1	1	1	0	1	.083

SEA	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Castillo, L	6.0	7	2	2	0	8	100-64	3.31
Voth	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	14-9	2.65
Bolton	1.0	1	2	2	1	1	17-9	4.05
Muñoz, A	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	9-5	1.76

OAK		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
2B	Toro	4	1	2	1	0	0	.299
1B	Nevin	3	0	0	0	1	1	.252
CF	Bleday	4	1	2	0	0	0	.248
LF	Rooker	4	1	2	2	0	1	.292
C	Langeliers	4	0	1	0	0	3	.213
DH	Davis, J	4	0	0	0	0	2	.205
RF	Butler, L	4	0	0	0	0	1	.176
SS	Schuemann	4	1	1	1	0	0	.204
3B	Harris, B	3	0	0	0	0	1	.156

OAK	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Wood	2.0	4	5	1	1	1	60-36	5.26
Muller	4.0	4	3	3	0	5	51-36	3.90
Ferguson, T	1.0	0	0	0	2	1	19-10	0.00
McFarland	1.0	0	0	0	1	0	14-7	5.06

Scoring Plays

Inning	Event	Score
B1	Mitch Garver singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder JJ Bleday. Dylan Moore scores.	1-0
B2	Sam Haggerty singles on a ground ball to center fielder JJ Bleday. Ty France scores. Luis Urías to 3rd.	2-0
B2	Dylan Moore out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder JJ Bleday. Luis Urías scores.	3-0
B2	Julio Rodríguez homers (2) on a fly ball to center field. Sam Haggerty scores.	5-0
T5	Max Schuemann homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.	5-1
B5	Mitch Garver homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. Julio Rodríguez scores.	7-1
T6	Abraham Toro homers (4) on a fly ball to right field.	7-2
B6	Seby Zavala homers (1) on a fly ball to left field.	8-2
T8	Brent Rooker homers (10) on a fly ball to left field. JJ Bleday scores.	8-4

Highlights

Description	Length
Luis Castillo against the Athletics	0:09
Bullpen availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Bench availability for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:07
Fielding alignment for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:11
Fielding alignment for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:11
Bench availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Starting lineups for Athletics at Mariners - May 12, 2024	0:09
Measuring the stats on Julio Rodríguez's home run	0:06
Breaking down Alex Wood's pitches	0:04
Breaking down Max Schuemann's home run	0:12
The distance behind Mitch Garver's home run	0:13
Breaking down Kyle Muller's pitches	0:04
Luis Castillo's outing against the Athletics	0:23
Breaking down Luis Castillo's pitches	0:04
Brent Rooker: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:13
Seby Zavala: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:12
The distance behind Abraham Toro's home run	0:11
Mitch Garver's RBI single	0:14
Sam Haggerty's RBI single	0:15
Dylan Moore's sac fly	0:16
Julio Rodríguez's two-run home run (2)	0:28
Max Schuemann's solo home run (2)	0:27
Mitch Garver's two-run home run (5)	0:27
Abraham Toro's solo home run (4)	0:26
Seby Zavala's solo home run (1)	0:27
Nevin's nice play after a review	1:30
Luis Urías' snags line dive	0:24
Brent Rooker's two-run home run (10)	0:29

Decisions

Winning Pitcher	Losing Pitcher	Save
Castillo, L (4-5, 3.31 ERA)	Wood (1-3, 5.26 ERA)

Attendance	Weather	Wind
	65°F, Sunny	1 mph, In From LF

HP	1B	2B	3B
Alex MacKay	Alfonso Márquez	Lance Barrett	Roberto Ortiz

Game ended at 6:30 PM.
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Athletics (19-22) @ Mariners (21-19)

First Pitch: 1:10 PM at T-Mobile Park

Team	Starter	TV	Radio
Athletics	Alex Wood (1-2, 5.30 ERA)	NBCSCA	A's Cast
Mariners	Luis Castillo (3-5, 3.35 ERA)	RSNW	KIRO

MLB	Fangraphs	Baseball Savant	Reddit Stream	Discord
Gameday	Game Graph	Strikezone Map	Live Comments	Discord

Line Score - Game Over

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E	LOB
OAK	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2	0	4	8	1	4
SEA	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	0		8	8	1	3

Box Score

SEA		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
SS	Moore, D	3	1	1	1	0	0	.222
CF	Rodríguez, J	3	2	2	2	1	0	.255
RF	Haniger	4	0	0	0	0	1	.203
DH	Garver	3	1	2	3	1	1	.179
2B	Polanco	4	0	1	0	0	1	.188
1B	France, T	4	1	0	0	0	1	.235
3B	Urías, L	2	1	0	0	2	1	.175
C	Zavala	3	1	1	1	0	1	.200
LF	Haggerty	3	1	1	1	0	1	.083

SEA	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Castillo, L	6.0	7	2	2	0	8	100-64	3.31
Voth	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	14-9	2.65
Bolton	1.0	1	2	2	1	1	17-9	4.05
Muñoz, A	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	9-5	1.76

OAK		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
2B	Toro	4	1	2	1	0	0	.299
1B	Nevin	3	0	0	0	1	1	.252
CF	Bleday	4	1	2	0	0	0	.248
LF	Rooker	4	1	2	2	0	1	.292
C	Langeliers	4	0	1	0	0	3	.213
DH	Davis, J	4	0	0	0	0	2	.205
RF	Butler, L	4	0	0	0	0	1	.176
SS	Schuemann	4	1	1	1	0	0	.204
3B	Harris, B	3	0	0	0	0	1	.156

OAK	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Wood	2.0	4	5	1	1	1	60-36	5.26
Muller	4.0	4	3	3	0	5	51-36	3.90
Ferguson, T	1.0	0	0	0	2	1	19-10	0.00
McFarland	1.0	0	0	0	1	0	14-7	5.06

Scoring Plays

Inning	Event	Score
B1	Mitch Garver singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder JJ Bleday. Dylan Moore scores.	1-0
B2	Sam Haggerty singles on a ground ball to center fielder JJ Bleday. Ty France scores. Luis Urías to 3rd.	2-0
B2	Dylan Moore out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder JJ Bleday. Luis Urías scores.	3-0
B2	Julio Rodríguez homers (2) on a fly ball to center field. Sam Haggerty scores.	5-0
T5	Max Schuemann homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.	5-1
B5	Mitch Garver homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. Julio Rodríguez scores.	7-1
T6	Abraham Toro homers (4) on a fly ball to right field.	7-2
B6	Seby Zavala homers (1) on a fly ball to left field.	8-2
T8	Brent Rooker homers (10) on a fly ball to left field. JJ Bleday scores.	8-4

Highlights

Description	Length
Luis Castillo against the Athletics	0:09
Bullpen availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Bench availability for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:07
Fielding alignment for Seattle, May 12 vs Athletics	0:11
Fielding alignment for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:11
Bench availability for Oakland, May 12 vs Mariners	0:07
Starting lineups for Athletics at Mariners - May 12, 2024	0:09
Measuring the stats on Julio Rodríguez's home run	0:06
Breaking down Alex Wood's pitches	0:04
Breaking down Max Schuemann's home run	0:12
The distance behind Mitch Garver's home run	0:13
Breaking down Kyle Muller's pitches	0:04
Luis Castillo's outing against the Athletics	0:23
Breaking down Luis Castillo's pitches	0:04
Brent Rooker: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:13
Seby Zavala: Home Run Statcast Analysis	0:12
The distance behind Abraham Toro's home run	0:11
Mitch Garver's RBI single	0:14
Sam Haggerty's RBI single	0:15
Dylan Moore's sac fly	0:16
Julio Rodríguez's two-run home run (2)	0:28
Max Schuemann's solo home run (2)	0:27
Mitch Garver's two-run home run (5)	0:27
Abraham Toro's solo home run (4)	0:26
Seby Zavala's solo home run (1)	0:27
Nevin's nice play after a review	1:30
Luis Urías' snags line dive	0:24
Brent Rooker's two-run home run (10)	0:29

Decisions

Winning Pitcher	Losing Pitcher	Save
Castillo, L (4-5, 3.31 ERA)	Wood (1-3, 5.26 ERA)

Game ended at 3:30 PM.
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The Short Version can be found here.

Part 1 can be found here.

Example 5 - There's more to a BBC YouTube title

Returning to this dastardly subreddit, for my next example, points 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are relevant. OP provided a screenshot of a BBC YouTube title, stating: "Israeli hit squad dressed as doctors kill Palestinians in hospital." Per point 2, by failing to immediately link to the video, or immediately mention what the video contains, folk could come away with the conclusion that the BBC never reports that these were militants. In other words, some might believe that the misreporting here extends past the video title, when it does not, and this could be avoided by providing salient details sooner rather than later. This submission was made during the temporary ban, and I thought it was interesting enough as a case study to come back to.

Example 6 - Oxfam's full position

For this submission/meme, points 1, 2, and 6 are relevant. I saw that we weren’t going to get good-faith engagement with the entirety of Oxfam’s position here on why they initially opposed airdrops, and I attempted to outline the full extent of their views so that it can be critiqued appropriately. This meme is not too dissimilar from some Twitter leftist fixating on one short clip of Destiny during one of his heated gamer moments; his actual positions aren’t being engaged with, and it’s intellectually dull. There’s more to Destiny’s positions than a twenty-second clip; there’s more to Oxfam’s position than the one tweet. The fact of the matter is that there’s a long series of tweets here, and while the tweet OP chose to highlight is risible, is dumb, and is insufferable, we are more than capable on this subreddit in being more nuanced and fair when it comes to our criticism.
As I highlight, there were some concerns here that were not entirely unreasonable. At the time of my comment, there weren’t yet any reports on injuries due to airdrops. These reports appeared in the following days and weeks, where Gazans were killed when a parachute in an airdrop failed to deploy, and some drowned in their attempts to retrieve parcels that landed in the sea. Retrospectively, I wouldn't say that aid should not have been airdropped merely because it would result in these deaths, but a fair assessment of Oxfam here at the time should have taken these concerns into account.
Oxfam’s associate director also endorses a Twitter thread where some prescriptions are given on how ought this aid delivery be facilitated. He recommends that the Gaza port be reopened, and to open more crossings. The Biden administration recognized that airdrops would not sufficiently alleviate the problem of being unable to get sufficient quantities of aid distributed, and while the port was not reopened, Biden did announce that a temporary port would be built. Further, Israel approved the reopening of the Erez crossing.
The misinformation in OP’s post stems from the fact that folk will be disinterested in reading the twitter thread or any additional threads where they might have elaborated on views. Out of the thousands that interact with the post, a significant chunk will come away with the incorrect belief that Oxfam’s opposition to airdrops was merely due to what was stated in the meme. That is misinformation being propagated — not the most egregious, Hamas-esqe level of misinformation in the world, but misinformation nonetheless.

Example 7 - NYT: Bananas, or Cool as a Cucumber?

For our final example points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are relevant; it’s the whole shebang. To give a quick recounting here, Hobbitfollower isn’t the only masochist that might, occasionally, choose to exclusively sort by new. When I saw the submission, I read the article, and I was a bit annoyed that the Jerusalem Post article doesn’t even link to the mission report that I was interested in reading. I searched for it, posted a link to the report in the very first comment of the thread as surely my fellow dggas would also like to read the report, and then I, well, read the report.
When I returned back to the thread, I quoted favourably from the mission report to support another individual's comment. (I would again quote from it in another thread the next day to highlight why Israel struggled to acquire forensic evidence.)
But as I scrolled down the thread I came across the subject of our example; 50 upvotes, no article linked, and clearly a charged comment. Consider the steps involved to truly engage with this comment; one would need to:

• Click and read the article.
• Search for the mission report.
• Read the mission report (as some folk probably won’t wanna read 20 pages right off the bat).
• Search for the NYT article; bypass the paywall (which is trivially easy nowadays but is still a barrier, and people are lazy); and read the article.

This is a very charged thread: there are going to be a large group of pro-Israel folk browsing this thread, frustrated and irate as bad memories are invoked of all the times they’ve had to deal with or seen pro-Hamas folk engaging in rape denialism. In much the same way a leftist sub is not going to be interested in a dispassionate analysis of an Israeli strike with high civilian collateral damage, this sub — at times — will struggle to calmly assess the subject matter. An expected behaviour isn’t necessarily the correct behaviour — the actions we believe one ought to take.
When a misleading tweet goes viral, the damage has already been done, as a considerable amount of people won’t see the subsequent Community Notes that might be slapped on it. Likewise, some of the thousands who see OP’s highly upvoted comment will think, “Oh, this has a lot of upvotes, I guess it must be true. How horrible of the NYT to frame this as a both sides issue”, and thus misinformation has spread. This incorrect belief will mold their perceptions of the NYT. When they encounter more reporting by the NYT on I-P in the future, they might even think back to this moment: “Ah, I remember when these bozos tried to say that the Israeli accusations were the same as the Palestinian accusations.”
I also referred to OP’s comment as disinformation. In every example discussed so far, I don't assume malicious intent. I just begin with the foundation that a mistake was made, and I don’t enmesh myself by throwing out accusations of lying. In this case, however, OP has indirectly acknowledged that I was correct, but they still haven’t bothered to edit their original comment. Once again, this comment is a really good example of point 1. I obviously also disagree with their conclusion, and the process by which they’re arriving at their conclusion is still very flawed — and other people are simply going to adopt their conclusion while not even attempting to reach there by their own independent assessment. If you see someone quote from an article, and they don’t even link it, and the comment is very charged, I would encourage y’all to seek out the article yourself; you may come away with a different interpretation.
I'm sure you've seen this meme before: "I'm just waiting for Destiny to comment on this so that I know what to think 😎." We meme about it, but there is, of course, an undercurrent of truth here, as we have confidence in Destiny's ability to research, and thus we feel comfortable adopting his beliefs and opinions. It's nice not having to do the research ourselves. Lazy fucks.
This applies to Reddit comments you see as well. Don't just adopt the conclusion of someone else because their beliefs align with yours and they're speaking with authority. Do the legwork yourself; be mindful of The Six Points; and you might find that someone on your own side is actually spreading misinformation, or is espousing an opinion that you disagree with.

Purgatory

I was perma-banned some time after my previous comment for a comment I made in a different thread. Before I get to that in the next fuck-me-who-knows-how-I'm-gonna-write-that-I'm-so-fucked section, I did want to bring up two final examples.

Example A - Haaretz and Amputations

For Example A, points 1, 3, 4, and 5 are relevant. Obviously, I can’t attempt point 6 because I was banned. Now, I actually agree with OP as I share their skepticism towards the notion that these amputations are “routine”, but referring to the article as a "fake story" is too strong, and, as always, their process here is flawed. The claims they make here about the Haaretz article and CNN article are misleading, but it is immediately upvoted because it feels right, particularly because the first reply just poisons the well. Haaretz did not speak to an anonymous person, they are reporting on a letter they have seen written by a doctor and sent to senior Israeli officials; the doctor did not justify the claim that the event is routine based on having seen only two amputations, that's merely the amputations they saw in the week they wrote the letter (but the phrasing here is ambiguous, as the doctor could be referring to the handcuff injuries as being the "routine" event); and the IDF did not confirm or deny all the claims, but gave a fairly standard, boilerplate response instead. The misleading claims in this comment was eventually addressed — and, as I’m sure you’re irritated by the repetition by now, the goal of this post is to turn this “eventually” into an “immediately.”

Example B - Wikipedia and Devious Editing

For Example B, points 1 and 5 are relevant. I want to be very careful with this one as I don't want to be misconstrued. Similar to the previous example, I mostly agree with their conclusion that these Wikipedia pages can be very flawed, and partisan editors can tarnish the objectivity that we wish could be maintained across all articles. However, you know the drill by now, point 1. There’s much to be said about the infamous “24-hour window” debacle, and I made a submission a while ago on this. I think there are parts of this story that both the pro-Palestine and pro-Israel crowd get wrong — but the latter is generally more correct, and I would agree with OP here that the information here is, at the very least, incomplete.
However, per point 5, the articles they are critiquing are not linked. How many people here actually sought out the two articles referenced here? As I’ve already demonstrated, we know how many misleading or false claims you can get away with before they’re finally addressed. A user in that thread made some edits to the contentious lines in question in the Wikipedia article. This was the Wikipedia article at the time OP’s comment was made. OP quotes this section:

Prior to the raids, Israel had called for the more than a million people living in the north half of the Gaza Strip to evacuate during a 24-hour window, while Hamas instructed those residents to stay put.

The two citations here are a Reuters article and a Politico article. The Politico article is arguably redundant, but it’s not being cited because it’s supposed to make a statement about a 24-hour window; it’s being cited to support the statement about Hamas:

Hamas is complicating the situation, urging residents to stay in their homes.

The Reuters article also mentions this:

“We tell the people of northern Gaza and from Gaza City, stay put in your homes, and your places," Eyad Al-Bozom, spokesman for the Hamas Interior Ministry, told a news conference.

Contrary to what OP said, both articles use the word “evacuation” at some point. The first part of the quote from the Wikipedia page is supported by this statement in the Reuters article:

On Friday Israel gave more than a million residents of the northern half of Gaza 24 hours to flee to the south to avoid an onslaught.

In a follow-up comment OP claims that the archived link, which pulled the earliest version of the Reuters article available, does not support the line. This seems to have been an error on the part of whoever chose this hyperlink. When the Wikipedia article first mentions calls for evacuation, this was how the Reuters article cited looked like at the time; regardless of the veracity of the claim, the article did support what the Wikipedia page mentions.
To reiterate, OP is completely correct about this pernicious problem with Wikipedia. It’s just that in this example, I don’t think it qualifies as a case of those darn pro-Palestine editors back at it again. The nuanced position here is pretty difficult to get to, and I don’t think the editors wrote this line in the interest of distorting the truth to serve their own side.

Example B.5: A better yet slightly flawed post on Wikipedia and Euro-Med Monitor

This post about how Hamas supporters are influencing Wikipedia does better in terms of substantiating their claims — but there are issues here that I would have loved to address, and there is a good critique on OP’s prescriptions that was buried at the bottom. Unfortunately, OP has been suspended from Reddit. If you’re reading this mate, call me 🥺.
There are a lot of hyperlinks in OP’s post (lol, sez fucking me), and it’s completely reasonable that someone won’t feel inclined to click every single one; that’s not an expectation I would ever demand. From going through the post, there are several small critiques I would have made (e.g., while I don’t believe the Mondo article should have been cited, OP claims that in the article, “The only people criticizing Wiesel here is the author of the opinion piece.” FWIW, the article does reference and cite a Haaretz article, and a Foreign policy article, both of which levy criticism against Wiesel), but I’m just going to focus on this line:

In fact, it is owned by a man named Ramy Abdu, who is a literal Hamas lobbyist.

If you’re going to call someone a literal Hamas lobbyist, that is definitely a link I’m clicking. What I know about Abdu is simply what I can assume about his beliefs from various tweets I’ve seen by him over the past several months; but I’ve never looked into their background other than being aware of their position at EMM. Upon opening the link I see… a 2013 article about Clare Short. From reading the article, it looks like OP missed some steps in outlining how they arrived at their conclusion, and I saw only a few people inquiring about this. To fill in the steps on what I presume OP wanted to say, from the article they linked:

Moshe Ya’alon, former IDF chief of staff, outlawed the Council for European Palestinian Relations (CEPR) – a Belgian non-profit organisation that lobbies on behalf of the Hamas-led Gaza Government – using emergency defence regulations.

I haven’t looked into CEPR, and they obviously disputed the lobbying charge; I’m just going to take the claim at face-value. In 2011, Abdu was assistant director of the CEPR, and still held a position there for several years. They've since left the organization, but per point 1, if this is how OP arrived at the conclusion that Abdu is a “literal Hamas lobbyist”, I think it could use a bit more work, with additional clarification on what they mean by lobbyist here. I’m sure they can do it, it just happened to not be in this post.
I'm not going to harp on about point 5 here as I only apply that to incidents where a claim is made; one or two articles are linked; and then no one reads them, assuming the claim must be true as long as articles are provided. I would literally never make the prescription that if someone writes an effort-post, we must click every hyperlink to fact-check. I mean, it's not like I would have any other motivation for saying that... sweats profusely 🙄
Just to make one final point on EMM, it is a rubbish outlet, and any time I encounter one of their articles, I roll my eyes knowing I’m going to get some outlandish claim where I can find fuck-all for corroboration from other outlets. However, sometimes there is corroboration, where EMM was the first to notice that the IDF labelled a bicycle as an RPG in the drone footage they published, and then the NYT confirmed the finding (except for the other stupid claim made in the tweet.) But anyways, these moments are astronomically rare.

Example C - A Mysterious Royal Website (What a weaselly little --)

Okay, I lied, one final example as it’s interesting to see how people here parse articles and headlines, but before I address the example, let me talk about Reuters headlines.

Reuters headlines

They’re not always consistent on this front, but I generally like how Reuters writes their headlines. A Reuters headline will often contain the phrase “US says”. [30] [31] [32] What I’m expecting in the article when I see a headline containing this phrase is some official representing the Biden administration outlining what their particular policy, position, belief, etc., is on whatever the subject matter may be, or some action they took which makes it clear what their position is. In the given examples, we have statements from Biden, Blinken, the US military, and so on. Sometimes the US officials remain anonymous, sharing information in private briefings.
If there isn’t an official statement by the US available on a matter, the headline might use the phrase “source says” to talk about ongoing developments. [33] [34] “Reuters will use unnamed sources where necessary when they provide information of market or public interest that is not available on the record. We alone are responsible for the accuracy of such information.” [35]
Relevant to Example C, Reuters uses the same guidelines for “Saudi Arabia says” [36] [37] and “sources say” for information relevant to Saudi Arabia. [38]

Israeli outlets, A royal family website, and Saudi sources: An amusing chain of events

Keeping the previous section in mind, when I came across this version of a Jerusalem Post article posted to this subreddit, you can imagine what I’m expecting here — particularly because this would be momentous news to see Saudi Arabia make a public statement that they helped defend Israel. Instead, we get reporting on what Saudi Arabia’s royal family said on their website, and what a source connected to the Saudi royal family told KAN, another Israeli outlet — and we don’t get links to either of them. If there was no statement on the royal family’s website, this would have been a bad headline to write based on what this source said. Unfortunately for the JP, there is no official website for Saudi Arabia’s royal family. You’ll see in the current version, they remove the reference to that website, and also add the following line:

The Al Arabiya news site said sources had informed it that Saudi Arabia had not participated in the interception of Iranian drones and missiles.

Here’s the article by the Saudi state-owned outlet, which is essentially their mouthpiece to deny the ongoing report. I24news, however, didn’t get the memo:

Saudi Arabia publicly acknowledges role in defending Israel against Iranian attack
While Jordan had openly disclosed its role in the defensive maneuver, Saudi Arabia's acknowledgment came in the form of a summary on its official website

When I first saw the JP submission on this subreddit, I bookmarked it for later to come back to and find the sources, as it’s not the first time I’ve seen dubious reporting from KAN news. I was also curious if anyone in the thread was going to highlight some of the discrepancies in the article, and, well, shoutout to this keen reader! Fact-checking the JP article slipped my mind, but thanks to a comment I saw on another subreddit, they correctly pointed out that the website referenced was not affiliated with the Saudi royal family, and thus the article the JP and other Israeli outlets had presumably read should not have been taken as an official statement. Christ, this is obvious from the very first line:

A source from the Saudi royal family, who prefers anonymity, converses with the Kan public broadcaster. The individual subtly acknowledges Saudi Arabia’s supposed involvement in thwarting Iranian attack drones bound for Israel the previous evening, citing that Saudi Arabian airspace automatically intercepts “any suspicious entity”.
The same figure takes a swing at Iran, accusing them of instigating a conflict in Gaza. This, they suggest, is a deliberate attempt to unravel the progress established towards normalizing relations with Israel, as per Kan’s report.
In the words of the official, as put forth by Kan, “Iran is a nation that endorses terrorism, and the world should have curtailed it much earlier.”

Why would the official Saudi royal website use an anonymous source within the royal family to make their public announcement, and why would they quote what the official said to an Israeli outlet?!
It’s fascinating to see this play out: the supposed source spoke to Kan News; Houseofsaud presumably sees this and makes an article on the Kan segment; the JP sees this article and the segment, poorly reads it, and then cites it and the original Kan segment; outlets like the Daily Wire pick up on the story from the JP; and then on it goes, spreading like wildefire, before the Saudis take note (“oh fuck, oh fuck, where are these reports coming from?”) and disseminate a message denying that any “official” website publicly confirmed their involvement. The Saudis are involved, and they’re keeping tight-lipped about the extent of their involvement.
Just to quote one more line from the i24news article because it’s shockingly poor:

The post subtly hinted at Saudi Arabia's involvement in intercepting suspicious entities in its airspace, highlighting the kingdom's proactive stance in safeguarding regional stability.

This is written based on this line from the HouseofSaud article:

A source from the Saudi royal family, who prefers anonymity, converses with the Kan public broadcaster. The individual subtly acknowledges Saudi Arabia’s supposed involvement in thwarting Iranian attack drones bound for Israel the previous evening, citing that Saudi Arabian airspace automatically intercepts “any suspicious entity”.

It’s the individual/source who is being subtle, not the post itself as i24 news mentions.
Anyways, this is not a case of misinformation by the subreddit. There's nothing wrong with posting a JP article, and this is easily the least offensive Example, but point 5 is nicely relevant here. I thought y'all might find this to be interesting, particularly because some people probably still believe that Saudi Arabia has publicly acknowledged their involvement, and maybe that could be someone reading this section. It's also another example where, because I’m banned, I can’t offer a bit of nuance. stares intently at 4THOT
It’s a shame Destiny didn’t finish reading the article, I’m curious what he would have said. He speculates that the report was from intelligence or monitoring, but moves on before finishing the article; it’s also the updated version of the article, without the tidbit about the Saudi royal family website.

Finito

I'm going to close out this section here. There's always more to include, more examples that demonstrate the aforementioned points, but I'd rather focus on my own comments instead of threads where I was unable to contribute my thoughts. There's been a plethora of discourse here surrounding the campus protests, and maybe those are still ongoing if I manage to post this at a sooner date. For completely legitimate and fair justifications, all of these threads are going to be very charged; and maybe upon reading this post some of y'all might feel more inclined to analyze these situations dispassionately, mindful of cases where the reporting might not be the greatest.

Example D - A Late Fact-check (Still lying, dude!)

I fucking lied again, there’s more. Literally the day after I finished writing the above paragraph, a new example popped up that I can’t resist the temptation to include. Stop giving me material! As I spoke of above, the campus protests have resulted in a charged atmosphere on the subreddit, which means that this post stating that a “Jewish-Israeli family’s restaurant was targeted in a hate crime” is immediately catapulted to the front page. The biggest problem here is that, per point 2, the presentation of the post led folk to believe that this was a recent event because OP had omitted the date this took place, and this led to one user to thoughtfully suggest that it might be worth setting up a GoFundMe to help the owners with the repairs.
To reemphasize the point I’ve made throughout this post, I’m looking to incentivise better behaviour to occur sooner. It took nearly 10 hours before one jolly chap came along to do the fact-check. Naturally, had I seen this post while browsing arnew, I would have done the same, and so would a couple other users here as well who are good for this sort of thing — and that's unfortunate that I’m saying a “couple” instead of “many.” There is no curiosity amongst everyone who interacted with this post to inquire into the event; not even something simple as requesting OP for an article. So folks, always ask for a source if OP doesn’t provide one just so you have a bit more context. (Also, I am fascinated with the anecdote OP attached to this post. Did they just make up their credentials?)

Example E - Hebrew Sources and False Confidence

This is a wonderful example to close out this section because it exemplifies so many of the problematic behaviours that I have demonstrated in this post. I was only made aware of this thread because a user here DM'd me a link to the thread. I will refer to the individual posting misinformation in the comments as "OP", and I'll refer to the submitter of the post by their username, Sylmd. The rebuttals to OP are excellent, and I will focus more on the behaviour here.
Sylmd posted a submission doing a quick lil' fact-check on a Destiny tweet, noting the fact that he seemed to have misread or misremembered a particular report. I say "seemed" here in case Destiny was referring to some other report or article he had read, but that seems unlikely as he has referenced this report in several of his debates, and the report was the subject of his previous tweets. Regardless, it was a small mistake, and apart from failing to immediately link the tweet and the report (link your sources you silly goose), Sylmd's post is civil, calm, and makes no accusations of malicious intent.
According to OP, Destiny was actually right, and 300+ IDF soldiers were in fact injured. Now, there's so much that is astonishingly problematic with OP's comment, and I gotta... mention it all! Sorry!
Naturally, they don't ever quote from their sources, which means it's on us to try and find the relevant sections. OP claims that the articles linked will demonstrate that 380 Israelis were injured -- despite the fact that Sylmd is obviously doing a fact-check on how many Israeli soldiers were injured, and that's literally the subject of Destiny's tweet.
Whatever, I'm sure the articles at least "discusses around 380 injuries"? Fuck no they don't! There's no mention of this figure anywhere, and OP somehow racks up 50 upvotes when they accuse Sylmd of lying after they correctly point this out. Did these people actually read the articles, find this magical 380 figure, and think, "Grrr, Sylmd you mendacious scumbag, I see through your Hamas propaganda." Sylmd was sitting at -31, one hour after the thread was made. (If you refer back to Example 2, you'll see that I felt compelled to make a submission when I saw a user was being downvoted for correctly pointing out that an article did not prove a particular claim.)
It gets worse. Apparently, you have to "click through all the links in these articles buddy." Well, okay, that's pretty elaborate, how silly of us not to realize this. OP wants us to open up nine Hebrew articles, translate them, and then tally up the number of casualties. Problem? Surely we get to the 380 figure if we click through all the hyperlinks in the article? Fuck no we don't! And even if we did, this is the most blisteringly cumbersome way to prove a claim. The sheer condescension in OP's comment is equivalent to that of a Twitter leftist: "It's not my job to educate you honey, you must read the literature."
So where does this mysterious figure come from? Well, as Sylmd correctly pointed out (before OP mentioned it), they are grabbing this figure from Hebrew Wikipedia. Sylmd doesn't provide a link to the article in question, so I will provide it here, and as you can see, the two articles that OP linked came from this Wikipedia page. I'm not convinced OP actually read either of these articles.
That's not all. They then linked a report in Hebrew in their edit. Where did they get this report from? It's not on the Wikipedia page, maybe this is something they have bookmarked? Nope, they got it from another user in the thread! After all is said and done, they still somehow racked up 270 upvotes for this awful rebuttal, and they were, "Proud to take a blast for defending the truth."
Do I even need to mention the points here? It's an authoritative comment; the linked articles give an "aura" of being correct; and there's confidence in all their comments.
To quote from Example 1:

Anyways, since I began this post it looks like the upvotes and downvotes on the original comment have since shifted. Mashallah. It's the behaviour I was describing before: all the low-effort garbage gets upvoted first, and then other people break the circlejerk and try to add nuance. But it would be nice if the nuance was added first and foremost without the need for tedious fact-checks.

That still holds true today.

Consistency and Principles

Do I only address misinformation from the pro-Israel side? Not that it should matter, but no, I will address misinformation from the pro-Palestine on this subreddit if I see it and I feel like addressing it. I was irritated to see muppets like Rob Rousseau spread conspiracies about a "suspicious link" between ISIS and Mossad, and I encountered a user here who was sprouting similar conspiratorial nonsense. You’ll notice that (1) I was blessed to be called a “Reddit pseudo intellectual libtard” (not wrong, not false, this hurts bro); and (2) I apply the exact same methodology here as I do for the examples of misinformation I've addressed elsewhere — which isn’t to say I’m doing anything commendable here. I just read the articles, trying to find the primary sources where relevant, and then see if the “reporting” accurately conveys what was said or written.
However, digging up the original source can be a time-consuming endeavour, and compounded by the fact that I might not speak the relevant language — which means that there was a case where I inadvertently made a comment containing misinformation. A couple months ago someone requested a steelman of the argument that Israel is conducting a genocide against Gazans; I offered one, and to support the case I used a misquote taken from a Bloomberg video which omitted a crucial part of Yoev Gallant’s statement: the reference to Hamas, and thus radically changing the context of the statement. I hold myself to the same principle when it comes to curbing misinformation, and I was more than content to edit my comment to ensure it did not propagate further than it already had.
Some of you eagle-eyed readers might recognize this Gallant quote, as it made a very marked appearance within… South Africa's genocide case against Israel. Here, that salient reference to Hamas is also omitted, and the accompanying footnote cites the same Bloomberg video that I did. As I wished in another reply, Bloomberg did indeed take the video down eventually. Now, I can be excused for my mistake as I’m not making the positive case outside of my steelman. For South Africa, this is unbelievably shoddy work when you're officially bringing a genocide case against another state.
Anyways, I've gone through many examples in this schizo-post, and it's entirely possible that I've made an error at some point; the irony is not lost on me. Feel free to point these errors out. I might not agree with your assessment, but I'm always willing to hear the arguments.

Prescriptions: The Six Points (Déjà vu)

I'm going to end with The Six Points because that's the focus of Part 1 and Part 2. As previously mentioned, this post is not intended to demonstrate that the misinformation the pro-Israel crowd spreads is as egregious as the misinformation the pro-Palestine spreads, whether in general or on this subreddit. While misinformation from the pro-Palestine crowd slips by every now and then on the subreddit, I would make the case that, generally speaking, it is quickly addressed. In my experience, however, I was finding quite a few cases of misinformation from the pro-Israel crowd were taking a concerning amount of time to be addressed; and in the interest of ensuring that it does get addressed in a more timely manner, I believe the following prescriptions would be helpful to keep in mind when browsing the subreddit:

1. Value the process just as much — if not, more — than the conclusion.
2. Be wary of how the presentation of information or the omission of pertinent information can lead to the inadvertent spread of misinformation.
3. Be aware of how “charged” topics/threads lead to poor reasoning that lacks dispassionate analysis.
4. Be aware of how pre-existing beliefs about an individual or organization alongside the usual biases leads to a reluctance to fact-check, where claims are taken at face-value because they feel right.
5. Link the article. Read the article. (Thoroughly.)
6. Redirect criticism to areas where it will be the strongest.

Click here for Part 3. Warning: you might get stung by a bee 🐝

Athletics @ Mariners - Sun, May 12

Game Status: Game Over - Score: 8-4 Mariners

Links & Info

• Current conditions at T-Mobile Park: 65°F - Sunny - Wind 1 mph, In From LF
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	Athletics Batters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	LOB	AVG	OBP	SLG
1	Toro - 2B	4	1	2	1	0	0	0	.299	.351	.460
2	Nevin - 1B	3	0	0	0	1	1	1	.252	.336	.393
3	Bleday - CF	4	1	2	0	0	0	1	.248	.329	.440
4	Rooker - LF	4	1	2	2	0	1	1	.292	.380	.632
5	Langeliers - C	4	0	1	0	0	3	2	.213	.267	.508
6	Davis, J - DH	4	0	0	0	0	2	3	.205	.253	.333
7	Butler, L - RF	4	0	0	0	0	1	1	.176	.282	.275
8	Schuemann - SS	4	1	1	1	0	0	2	.204	.310	.388
9	Harris, B - 3B	3	0	0	0	0	1	0	.156	.333	.438
	Totals	34	4	8	4	1	9	11

Athletics
BATTING: HR: Schuemann (2, 5th inning off Castillo, L, 0 on, 2 out); Toro (4, 6th inning off Castillo, L, 0 on, 0 out); Rooker (10, 8th inning off Bolton, 1 on, 2 out). TB: Bleday 2; Langeliers; Rooker 5; Schuemann 4; Toro 5. RBI: Rooker 2 (27); Schuemann (7); Toro (17). 2-out RBI: Schuemann; Rooker 2. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Schuemann; Davis, J. Team RISP: 0-for-3. Team LOB: 4. GIDP: Schuemann.
FIELDING: E: Schuemann (1, fielding). DP: 2 (Schuemann-Toro-Nevin; Toro-Nevin).

	Mariners Batters	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	K	LOB	AVG	OBP	SLG
1	Moore, D - SS	3	1	1	1	0	0	0	.222	.321	.411
2	Rodríguez, J - CF	3	2	2	2	1	0	1	.255	.310	.323
3	Haniger - RF	4	0	0	0	0	1	3	.203	.265	.348
4	Garver - DH	3	1	2	3	1	1	0	.179	.295	.359
5	Polanco - 2B	4	0	1	0	0	1	2	.188	.291	.306
6	France, T - 1B	4	1	0	0	0	1	1	.235	.292	.326
7	Urías, L - 3B	2	1	0	0	2	1	1	.175	.309	.386
8	Zavala - C	3	1	1	1	0	1	1	.200	.200	.367
9	Haggerty - LF	3	1	1	1	0	1	0	.083	.154	.083
	Totals	29	8	8	8	4	7	9

Mariners
BATTING: 2B: Rodríguez, J (5, Muller). HR: Rodríguez, J (2, 2nd inning off Wood, 1 on, 2 out); Garver (5, 5th inning off Muller, 1 on, 1 out); Zavala (1, 6th inning off Muller, 0 on, 1 out). TB: Garver 5; Haggerty; Moore, D; Polanco; Rodríguez, J 6; Zavala 4. RBI: Garver 3 (13); Haggerty (1); Moore, D (13); Rodríguez, J 2 (13); Zavala (2). 2-out RBI: Rodríguez, J 2; Garver. SAC: Zavala. SF: Moore, D. GIDP: Haniger; Zavala. Team RISP: 3-for-4. Team LOB: 3.
FIELDING: E: Zavala (1, fielding). DP: (Polanco-Moore, D-France, T).

Athletics Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-S	ERA
Wood	2.0	4	5	1	1	1	1	60-36	5.26
Muller	4.0	4	3	3	0	5	2	51-36	3.90
Ferguson, T	1.0	0	0	0	2	1	0	19-10	0.00
McFarland	1.0	0	0	0	1	0	0	14-7	5.06
Totals	8.0	8	8	4	4	7	3

Mariners Pitchers	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	P-S	ERA
Castillo, L	6.0	7	2	2	0	8	2	100-64	3.31
Voth	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	0	14-9	2.65
Bolton	1.0	1	2	2	1	1	1	17-9	4.05
Muñoz, A	1.0	0	0	0	0	0	0	9-5	1.76
Totals	9.0	8	4	4	1	9	3

Game Info
Pitch timer violations: Bolton (pitcher).
Pitches-strikes: Wood 60-36; Muller 51-36; Ferguson, T 19-10; McFarland 14-7; Castillo, L 100-64; Voth 14-9; Bolton 17-9; Muñoz, A 9-5.
Groundouts-flyouts: Wood 2-4; Muller 3-1; Ferguson, T 1-0; McFarland 2-0; Castillo, L 4-4; Voth 0-1; Bolton 1-0; Muñoz, A 2-0.
Batters faced: Wood 12; Muller 16; Ferguson, T 4; McFarland 3; Castillo, L 24; Voth 3; Bolton 5; Muñoz, A 3.
Umpires: HP: Alex MacKay. 1B: Alfonso Márquez. 2B: Lance Barrett. 3B: Roberto Ortiz.
Weather: 65 degrees, Sunny.
Wind: 1 mph, In From LF.
First pitch: 1:11 PM.
Att: 41,609.
Venue: T-Mobile Park.
May 12, 2024

Inning	Scoring Play	Score
Bottom 1	Mitch Garver singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder JJ Bleday. Dylan Moore scores.	1-0 SEA
Bottom 2	Sam Haggerty singles on a ground ball to center fielder JJ Bleday. Ty France scores. Luis Urías to 3rd.	2-0 SEA
Bottom 2	Dylan Moore out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder JJ Bleday. Luis Urías scores.	3-0 SEA
Bottom 2	Julio Rodríguez homers (2) on a fly ball to center field. Sam Haggerty scores.	5-0 SEA
Top 5	Max Schuemann homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.	5-1 SEA
Bottom 5	Mitch Garver homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. Julio Rodríguez scores.	7-1 SEA
Top 6	Abraham Toro homers (4) on a fly ball to right field.	7-2 SEA
Bottom 6	Seby Zavala homers (1) on a fly ball to left field.	8-2 SEA
Top 8	Brent Rooker homers (10) on a fly ball to left field. JJ Bleday scores.	8-4 SEA

Team	Highlight
SEA	Mitch Garver's RBI single (00:00:14)
SEA	Dylan Moore's sac fly (00:00:16)
SEA	Julio Rodríguez's two-run home run (2) (00:00:28)
OAK	Max Schuemann's solo home run (2) (00:00:27)
SEA	Mitch Garver's two-run home run (5) (00:00:27)
OAK	Abraham Toro's solo home run (4) (00:00:26)
SEA	Seby Zavala's solo home run (1) (00:00:27)
SEA	Nevin's nice play after a review (00:01:30)
SEA	Luis Urías' snags line dive (00:00:24)
OAK	Brent Rooker's two-run home run (10) (00:00:29)

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9		R	H	E	LOB
Athletics	0	0	0	0	1	1	0	2	0		4	8	1	4
Mariners	1	4	0	0	2	1	0	0			8	8	1	3

Division Scoreboard

HOU 9 @ DET 3 - Final
TEX 1 @ COL 3 - Final
KC 4 @ LAA 2 - Game Over
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Bridges Podcast: Episode 08, Task & Purpose (Chris Cappy) (Filmed May 11)	Releases on Bridges YT Channel
Seb Gorka hosted by Triggernometry (filmed May 10)	2 hour conversation - Trump vs. Biden, releasing on Triggernometry
Vice Documentary: (Redpill: Will air on their cable documentary channel (Tubi), 60-75 minute documentary exploring masculinity, manosphere, & economy of the internet, hosted by Vegas Tenold.	Releases summer, 2024. (Watch Destiny Video: filmed feb 21- Destiny talking to Vice while they film, 1hr)

CANCELLED

- David Beir: Immigration (TBR) - DJ Akademiks (To Be Rescheduled, TBR) 

UNCONFIRMED (tentative time frames, 3rd parties scheduling, creators interested to chat)

Maybe: Decoding The Gurus - Dman may use his right to reply
Wants to Chat: Michael Knowles) (said on Iced Coffee Hour Podcast)
Maybe: Dave Rubin Valuetainment trying to set debate
Tentative: Shlomo Ben-Ami After March 30th
Maybe: Jynxzi podcast appearance
Maybe: Kevin McCarthy saw the debate w/Shapiro, in talks
Invite: Michael Sartain invites Destiny to Vegas
3rd Party Contact: President of Israel, Isaac Herzog
3rd Party Contact: Einat Wilf
NBC Interview

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RECENT DEBATES & CONVERSATIONS

• Dr. K/HealthyGamerGG A Chat With Destiny
• Twitter Spaces Destiny Debates Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes And Sneako
• Fresh and Fit Sulaiman Ahmed on Israel-Palestine
• Brad Polumbo Campus Protests, U.S. Israel Funding
• Breaking Points Destiny vs Omar Baddar & Ryan Grim
• Minds Fest 2024 Street Interview, Austin Texas
• Minds Fest 2024 Election Integrity Debate
• Campus Engagement UTAustin Encampment Interviews
• Piers Morgan Dave Smith & Benny Johnson Trump's Trial, Kennedys, threat of nuclear war
• Peter Boghossian Virtue Signaling, Grifting, Echo Chambers
• CSPAN Washington Journalw/ Brad Polumbo on Social Media, Young Voters, & Campaign 2024
• Decoding The Gurus Episode 100 Destiny: Debate King and/or Degenerate?
• The Boyscast Why Everyones Full of Sh*t, WW3, Trump Trial & Debating JBP & Shapiro
• Live From The Table Gaza and Gaming, A Meeting with Destiny aka Steven Bonnell
• The Will Cain Show What it is to be an American
• Eli Hassell Discussion on Iran attack on Israel (April 2024)
• Jordan B. Peterson Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy
• Lex Fridman Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris
• Nathan J. Robinson Israel-Hamas, Ukraine, Twitter Feud
• Piers Morgan Destiny vs Benny Johnson vs Dave Smith
• Chris Williamson Have We Reached Peak Stupidity?
• Piers Morgan w/Tomi Lahren Trump, Biden, Israel-Hamas & more
• Lauren Chen Onlyfans, Redpill, Polyamory & More
• David Pakman (31 minutes) Political Activism, Right Wing Extremists
• Ian Crossland Has the American electoral system failed us?
• Iced Coffee Hour Ben Shapiro, Toxic Wokeism and Getting Divorced
• Noah Smith Geopolitics
• Destiny & The New World of Internet Politics
• More...

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PODCASTS, BIG DEBATES, I/P, & MORE

CANVASSING

• DGG Canvassing Documentary Behind the scenes & short Destiny interview
• Ohio Canvassing Streams Feb 10th-11th.2024 Interviews w/Legislators & Roundtables

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BRIDGES PODCAST

• Bridges Podcast Episode 01: Jeremiah Johnson (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 02: Ryan McBeth (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 03: Krassensteins (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 04: J.J McCullough (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 05: Your Movie Sucks (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 06: Richard Lewis (Full Vod) (August Edit)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 07: Turkey Tom (Full Vod)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 08: Chris Cappy/Task & Purpose (Full Vod) (May 11)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 09: R.A. the Rugged Man (Full Vod) (May 13 )
• Bridges Podcast Episode 10: Jordan Harbringer (June 08)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 11: Mr. Beat (June 16)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 12: David Pakman (June 28)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 13: Harley Morenstein (June 29)
• Bridges Podcast Episode 14: Drew Pavlou (July 06)

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ANYTHING ELSE? PODCAST

• Anything Else Podcast Episode 00 & Episode 01
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 02
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 03
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 04 w/Your Movie Sucks
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 05 W/Richard Lewis
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 06
• Anything Else Podcast Episode 07

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BIG DEBATES & CONVERSATIONS

• BEN SHAPIRO DEBATE: YOUTUBE AUDIO TRANSCRIPT APPLE PODCASTS SPOTIFY
• Jordan B. Peterson Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy
• Jan 6th Debate Alex Jones, Glenn Greenwald, Ed & Brian Krassenstein, Darren Beattie
• Glenn Greenwald Round 2 of January 6 Debate
• Candace Owens Culture, Politics, Current Events, College Education

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ISRAEL-PALESTINE DEBATES & CONVERSATIONS

• Dr. Benny Morris Israel & Palestine
• Lex Fridman Israel-Hamas Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris
• Breaking Points Destiny vs Omar Baddar
• Eli Hassell Discussion on Iran attack on Israel (April 2024)
• Eli Hassell Former ME Minister Ivan Lewis Israel-Hamas War
• Eli Hassell Simcha Rothman Israel-Hamas War
• Ryan Grim Grim's October 7th Sexual Violence Article
• Marc Lamont Hill Israel - Hamas War
• Cenk Uygur Round 2 Israel-Hamas War

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MORE

• Minds Fest 2024 Street Interview, Austin Texas
• Campus Engagement UTAustin Encampment Interviews
• Turkey Tom Inside the Mind of Destiny (Documentary)
• Appearance Turkey Tom: The Gun Youtubers of San Antonio
• Cornell Political Union Military aid for Ukraine & Israel
• DnD Campaign Save or Die
• Jubilee Liberals and Conservatives Are More Similar Than You Think
• Jubilee Black Conservatives vs White Liberals Middle Ground

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DEBATE BREAKDOWNS

Cenk Uygur: Israel - Hamas War
Lisa Elizabeth: Systemic racism
Meghan Murphy: Is sex work immoral?
(2019) Hasan Piker: Kamala Harris (Bridge Burn)
(2019) Sargon of Akkad: What is a woman?

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DESTINY'S OBSIDIAN NOTES Direct Link Israel-Palestine Reddit Post
DESTINY'S SUBSTACK Direct Link
DESTINY WIKI POSITIONS POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY
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• https://destiny.gg/schedule/
• https://www.omniversus.io/
• u/valdebich amazing Last Week on Destiny breakdowns
• Adam Ahke editor of the debate breakdowns

If you have any suggestions, info/links or additions, please post so I can update.

Apparently they added this unreleased willow set into the armory which you can preview. Interesting in that it isn't considered a whole set but each individual piece is available.