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2024.04.16 01:17 Mkyhhd BIG Oil Companies Warm to Biden After Years of Bad Blood; Once a favorite
Big foil of the White House, some U.S. oil executives have reached an unlikely truce with the president's lieutenants. Once a favorite foil of the White House, some U.S. oil executives have reached an unlikely truce with the president's lieutenants
Eaton, Collin. Wall Street Journal (Online); New York, N.Y.. 15 Apr 2024.
Heading into an election in which energy prices figure to be a key issue, President Biden and some of the country's biggest oil companies have reached a surprising detente.
The truce comes after years of acrimony : The White House routinely slammed windfall oil-and-gas profits as pump prices surged in 2022, and industry executives bemoaned Biden's campaign promise to transition the U.S. away from oil.
Lately though, top executives from Exxon Mobil, Occidental Petroleum and other producers say they have enjoyed cozier relations with the White House, spending more time discussing—and sometimes influencing—the administration's thinking on climate investments , energy policy and global oil markets with top Biden officials.
Exxon Chief Executive Darren Woods said that, unlike the administration's early days, the oil giant is now welcome at the White House table.
"If you want a game plan, you want people who have played the game," Woods said in an interview. "So, I think there's been a pragmatic approach that's been brought into the administration."
The relationship could soon be put to the test. Gasoline prices are up more than 40 cents from the start of the year and are expected to increase further in the summer driving season . If Americans are experiencing pain at the pump as the election nears, the oil industry may once again be a useful foil for Biden.
A White House spokesman didn't respond to requests for comment.
The oil-and-gas industry remains overwhelmingly in favor of Republican energy policies. Many executives are incensed that the Energy Department paused approvals for newly proposed liquefied natural-gas export projects. Last week, executives said new rules raising rates for companies to drill on federal lands would hurt the economy.
"We're dealing with a regulatory onslaught from this administration," said Mike Sommers, chief executive of the oil industry trade group American Petroleum Institute. He acknowledged the administration's rhetoric has shifted, but attributed the change to global supply shocks that followed geopolitical crises.
Shared interests
Oil-and-gas companies also have developments to cheer about. Biden has presided over record U.S. energy production and exports, and oversaw the start of several major pipelines and infrastructure projects. There is also broad support for the Inflation Reduction Act, which contains enormous tax credits for clean-energy projects, including those favored by the industry such as carbon capture and hydrogen production.
For both of the top presidential candidates this year, there is a gulf between their campaign rhetoric and the governing reality. Biden stresses his green agenda and often criticizes the industry, but his administration is relatively pragmatic on many issues, oil executives say. Whereas Trump's "drill, baby, drill" slogan is a regular part of his stump speech, his first administration was often chaotic and lacked regulatory thoroughness, which stalled some oil-and-gas projects in court. Trump has also been sharply critical of the industry-popular IRA.
Oil executives said John Podesta, Biden's point person on implementation of the IRA, is now intensely focused on bringing clean-energy projects to life and often discusses the effort with big fossil-fuel producers.
"We're seeking their help in cleaning up, globally," Podesta said last month.
Occidental CEO Vicki Hollub said she has enjoyed an open dialogue with Podesta, and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm. Hollub said she had always appreciated Biden's push to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions.
"We support those goals, and we want that to happen," she said. "I think the [Energy Department] has been one of the agencies that's been very open in wanting to help move things along."
Several major energy projects that stalled in court during the Trump years moved forward under Biden, such as the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Mountain Valley Pipeline. The Biden administration approved ConocoPhillips' controversial Willow project in Alaska and a Gulf Coast oil-export terminal capable of handling supertankers, only the second such facility in the region.
"No one has done more damage to the American oil-and-gas industry than Joe Biden," said Karoline Leavitt, a spokeswoman for Trump's campaign. "President Trump made America a net exporter of energy for the first time because he cut red tape and gave the industry more freedom."
Complicated politics
Fossil-fuel politics are tricky for Biden. Many in the Democratic Party seek a rapid move away from oil and gas to curb climate change, but Biden also needs to attract moderate voters in key swing states, including Pennsylvania, where fracking is an economic boon .
Biden has overseen the start of several major pipelines and infrastructure projects. PHOTO: Nate Smallwood for The Wall Street Journal
During the 2020 election, Biden said he would ban new oil-and-gas permitting on public land, and in his first year in office, Granholm urged drillers to diversify to avoid becoming the next Kodak or Blockbuster Video, whose business models became obsolete as technology evolved.
Biden has also needed American frackers to help quell rising fuel prices . In 2021 and 2022, as the U.S. emerged from the pandemic and fuel prices climbed, he asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate oil companies' " anti-consumer behavior ," and called on U.S. producers and the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries to grow production.
Communications about prices are better as oil executives said they have discussed energy supplies often with Biden's lieutenants and tried to make clear that various global market forces move prices, outside of their control.
Many of the smaller drillers who fueled the shale boom don't share the kinder view of the White House held by the likes of Exxon. Mary Landrieu, a former U.S. senator (D., La.) from a big fossil-fuel state who has worked as a lobbyist for oil-and-gas companies, said smaller companies are harder hit by costly regulations and sharp ebbs and flows in the administration's messaging about the industry.
"It's been complicated and confusing," Landrieu said. "The Biden administration has sent different signals at different times, and the signposts go in different directions."
Under Biden, antitrust enforcers are scrutinizing a recent wave of big oil-and-gas deals. Earlier this month, natural-gas frackers Chesapeake Energy and Southwestern Energy postponed the closing date of their merger following an information request from the FTC.
Lines of communication
U.S. Rep. Lizzie Fletcher, a Democrat from Houston, has helped nurture relationships between energy companies and her party. She said they are making progress in collaborating to shape the IRA and provisions around methane emissions.
"You hear the Republicans all the time saying the administration is so terrible for domestic production of oil and gas, and yet we are at a record peak of crude-oil production," Fletcher said.
After extensive meetings with fossil-fuel interests, the Securities and Exchange Commission killed a proposed requirement for oil companies to report emissions stemming from customers using their products when the agency rolled out its new climate accounting rules last month.
Exxon CEO Woods said the White House sought his advice on energy crises such as the weeklong Colonial Pipeline shutdown in 2021 and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. It also embraced Exxon's idea for a giant Gulf Coast carbon-capture hub, which Woods said helped influence the administration's thinking on what became the IRA.
Officials have learned more about what it takes to bring low-carbon projects to fruition, and the myriad stakeholders involved, said Jeff Gustavson, who leads Chevron's new energies business, which is investing in renewable fuel, hydrogen and carbon capture.
"Do the politics complicate that? Obviously. But we try to take the long-term view, and we've had constructive discussions and conversations," Gustavson said.
Benoît Morenne and Phred Dvorak contributed to this article.
Write to Collin Eaton at collin.eaton@wsj.com
Credit: By Collin Eaton
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Eaton, Collin. Wall Street Journal (Online); New York, N.Y.. 15 Apr 2024.
Heading into an election in which energy prices figure to be a key issue, President Biden and some of the country's biggest oil companies have reached a surprising detente.
The truce comes after years of acrimony : The White House routinely slammed windfall oil-and-gas profits as pump prices surged in 2022, and industry executives bemoaned Biden's campaign promise to transition the U.S. away from oil.
Lately though, top executives from Exxon Mobil, Occidental Petroleum and other producers say they have enjoyed cozier relations with the White House, spending more time discussing—and sometimes influencing—the administration's thinking on climate investments , energy policy and global oil markets with top Biden officials.
Exxon Chief Executive Darren Woods said that, unlike the administration's early days, the oil giant is now welcome at the White House table.
"If you want a game plan, you want people who have played the game," Woods said in an interview. "So, I think there's been a pragmatic approach that's been brought into the administration."
The relationship could soon be put to the test. Gasoline prices are up more than 40 cents from the start of the year and are expected to increase further in the summer driving season . If Americans are experiencing pain at the pump as the election nears, the oil industry may once again be a useful foil for Biden.
A White House spokesman didn't respond to requests for comment.
The oil-and-gas industry remains overwhelmingly in favor of Republican energy policies. Many executives are incensed that the Energy Department paused approvals for newly proposed liquefied natural-gas export projects. Last week, executives said new rules raising rates for companies to drill on federal lands would hurt the economy.
"We're dealing with a regulatory onslaught from this administration," said Mike Sommers, chief executive of the oil industry trade group American Petroleum Institute. He acknowledged the administration's rhetoric has shifted, but attributed the change to global supply shocks that followed geopolitical crises.
Shared interests
Oil-and-gas companies also have developments to cheer about. Biden has presided over record U.S. energy production and exports, and oversaw the start of several major pipelines and infrastructure projects. There is also broad support for the Inflation Reduction Act, which contains enormous tax credits for clean-energy projects, including those favored by the industry such as carbon capture and hydrogen production.
For both of the top presidential candidates this year, there is a gulf between their campaign rhetoric and the governing reality. Biden stresses his green agenda and often criticizes the industry, but his administration is relatively pragmatic on many issues, oil executives say. Whereas Trump's "drill, baby, drill" slogan is a regular part of his stump speech, his first administration was often chaotic and lacked regulatory thoroughness, which stalled some oil-and-gas projects in court. Trump has also been sharply critical of the industry-popular IRA.
Oil executives said John Podesta, Biden's point person on implementation of the IRA, is now intensely focused on bringing clean-energy projects to life and often discusses the effort with big fossil-fuel producers.
"We're seeking their help in cleaning up, globally," Podesta said last month.
Occidental CEO Vicki Hollub said she has enjoyed an open dialogue with Podesta, and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm. Hollub said she had always appreciated Biden's push to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions.
"We support those goals, and we want that to happen," she said. "I think the [Energy Department] has been one of the agencies that's been very open in wanting to help move things along."
Several major energy projects that stalled in court during the Trump years moved forward under Biden, such as the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Mountain Valley Pipeline. The Biden administration approved ConocoPhillips' controversial Willow project in Alaska and a Gulf Coast oil-export terminal capable of handling supertankers, only the second such facility in the region.
"No one has done more damage to the American oil-and-gas industry than Joe Biden," said Karoline Leavitt, a spokeswoman for Trump's campaign. "President Trump made America a net exporter of energy for the first time because he cut red tape and gave the industry more freedom."
Complicated politics
Fossil-fuel politics are tricky for Biden. Many in the Democratic Party seek a rapid move away from oil and gas to curb climate change, but Biden also needs to attract moderate voters in key swing states, including Pennsylvania, where fracking is an economic boon .
Biden has overseen the start of several major pipelines and infrastructure projects. PHOTO: Nate Smallwood for The Wall Street Journal
During the 2020 election, Biden said he would ban new oil-and-gas permitting on public land, and in his first year in office, Granholm urged drillers to diversify to avoid becoming the next Kodak or Blockbuster Video, whose business models became obsolete as technology evolved.
Biden has also needed American frackers to help quell rising fuel prices . In 2021 and 2022, as the U.S. emerged from the pandemic and fuel prices climbed, he asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate oil companies' " anti-consumer behavior ," and called on U.S. producers and the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries to grow production.
Communications about prices are better as oil executives said they have discussed energy supplies often with Biden's lieutenants and tried to make clear that various global market forces move prices, outside of their control.
Many of the smaller drillers who fueled the shale boom don't share the kinder view of the White House held by the likes of Exxon. Mary Landrieu, a former U.S. senator (D., La.) from a big fossil-fuel state who has worked as a lobbyist for oil-and-gas companies, said smaller companies are harder hit by costly regulations and sharp ebbs and flows in the administration's messaging about the industry.
"It's been complicated and confusing," Landrieu said. "The Biden administration has sent different signals at different times, and the signposts go in different directions."
Under Biden, antitrust enforcers are scrutinizing a recent wave of big oil-and-gas deals. Earlier this month, natural-gas frackers Chesapeake Energy and Southwestern Energy postponed the closing date of their merger following an information request from the FTC.
Lines of communication
U.S. Rep. Lizzie Fletcher, a Democrat from Houston, has helped nurture relationships between energy companies and her party. She said they are making progress in collaborating to shape the IRA and provisions around methane emissions.
"You hear the Republicans all the time saying the administration is so terrible for domestic production of oil and gas, and yet we are at a record peak of crude-oil production," Fletcher said.
After extensive meetings with fossil-fuel interests, the Securities and Exchange Commission killed a proposed requirement for oil companies to report emissions stemming from customers using their products when the agency rolled out its new climate accounting rules last month.
Exxon CEO Woods said the White House sought his advice on energy crises such as the weeklong Colonial Pipeline shutdown in 2021 and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. It also embraced Exxon's idea for a giant Gulf Coast carbon-capture hub, which Woods said helped influence the administration's thinking on what became the IRA.
Officials have learned more about what it takes to bring low-carbon projects to fruition, and the myriad stakeholders involved, said Jeff Gustavson, who leads Chevron's new energies business, which is investing in renewable fuel, hydrogen and carbon capture.
"Do the politics complicate that? Obviously. But we try to take the long-term view, and we've had constructive discussions and conversations," Gustavson said.
Benoît Morenne and Phred Dvorak contributed to this article.
Write to Collin Eaton at collin.eaton@wsj.com
Credit: By Collin Eaton
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Memory Transcription Subject: Lieutenant Isaac Yankovic
Date [standardized human time]: October 17th, 2136
Everyone wonders what they would do at the end of the world; I didn’t have to. I had no bunker to cower in because they were already full. I had no family to spend my last moments with because I never knew them. All I had was 41 brothers in arms to take care of, and I was not going to fail them.
Our unit, the 42nd Infantry Division, was just that: infantry. Us Eleven Bravos could do very little to affect the outcome of a space battle, but that didn’t mean we were going to sit on our asses and let the Federation drop antimatter on us with impunity. The plan was to pack America's largest population centers with so many air defense systems that their skies became effectively impenetrable.
Yesterday, we crossed into New Jersey to set up a long-range radar system and two THAAD batteries in Lincoln Park. The day before, we scattered a dozen Patriot launchers on Randalls and Wards Islands. As of now, we’re placing an anti-air system in every open space between Lower Manhattan and Harlem. Central Park was the biggest and most obvious option, so it was getting the most attention.
My unit, First Platoon, Bravo Company, was assigned to security duty. That meant patrolling around the southern edge of the park, keeping civilians out of the way and the crazies at bay. More than once, we had to turn away someone who was trying to walk their dog or go for a casual morning run. Me and Eaton, one of my Staff Sergeants, had taken to speculating about these people to occupy ourselves.
“Do you think they’re just delusional?” I thought aloud as we strolled down 59th Street.
New York’s sidewalks and roads, once teeming with life, were now mostly abandoned. This would have made the city much more peaceful, but the engineers were making more than enough racket further into Central Park. They had to clear launch vectors and ground paths for Patriot and C-RAM systems. As a result, the swift reports of C4 charges or det-cord exploding, followed by the creaks, snaps, and groans of a centuries-old tree falling over, replaced the usual hustle and bustle.
“Nah, man.” Eaton said while not entirely paying attention. “They’re in denial, not delusional.”
“What’s the difference?” I asked while surveying the streets parallel to us for any pedestrians.
“It’s psychology.” He tapped his temple like he actually knew something about the topic. “Those people might seem delusional, but they know exactly what’s going on. It's why they’re doing leisure activities. They’re pretending everything’s okay to distract themselves from that.” He pointed up.
The space battle raging above us appeared as thousands of tiny bursts of light against the otherwise pristine blue background, occasionally punctuated by the brilliant white flash and thunderclap of something falling through the atmosphere and vaporizing.
Eaton continued. “The ones that are truly delusional are sitting in their cubicles right now, typing away without noticing that no one else came into work today.”
“And the stupid ones traffic-jammed the Carey Tunnel.” I added offhandedly.
“And the smart one’s fucked off to a cabin in the woods as soon as first contact was announced.”
“We definitely aren’t in that group; we joined the Army.”
Eaton chuckled. “There's a reason the slogan used to be Army Strong, not Army Smart.”
Our patrol route was just a straight line from Central Park’s south gate to Grand Army Plaza, where we could admire the golden visage of William Tecumseh Sherman and salute him as we passed. On the way back, we would meet up with First Squad, exchange inane jokes with them, and continue on until we reached the entrance again.
It was an important assignment, but it did little to occupy the mind. I found myself thinking too much when I wasn’t bullshitting with Eaton.
Are we giving people false hope by putting all these anti-air systems here? Did they choose to stay because of us? Would the air-defense batteries even work?
I was brought out of my rumination by the radio on my chest garbling something incomprehensible. “Say again?” I asked the receiver.
“The trucks need an escort back to Hamilton,” the voice of my platoon sergeant, Sterling, replied.
“Copy. Everyone meet up at the main gate.”
My sergeants responded with a simple “Wilco” over the radio.
“I hope those bastards try to come down here,” Eaton commented while we began picking up the pace. “It’d be fun watching them walk into the shitstorm we’re making.”
I slung my rifle over my shoulder and quickened to a light jog alongside him. “The real fun will be if any of them touch the ground alive.”
“Damn right, sir.”
Me, Eaton, and Second Squad closed the gap to the park’s entrance in no time. First Squad was right on our heels, but they were significantly more winded because they had to break into a dead sprint to catch up.
Sergeant Sterling and the rest of the platoon were waiting for us among a cordon of Humvees and NYPD cruisers. “I haven’t seen you boys move like that since basic,” he said with a slight smile tugging at his lips.
“Maybe you haven’t been properly motivating us, sir,” Eaton quipped while climbing into the lead Humvee’s rear seat.
Sterling rolled his eyes and took the front passenger seat. “Of course! All I needed was a goddamn alien invasion to get you off your asses.”
“Whatever. We still do plenty of work. Right, Lieutenant?”
“If making up bullshit was a job, we’d be earning six figures.” I climbed up the vehicle’s hood into the gunner’s position. There wasn’t a machine gun in the mount, but it was smart to have someone up there for situational awareness.
A specialist took the driver’s seat, and Private Broz took the spot across from Eaton. The driver flipped the vehicle’s switch and pulled forward, with three other Humvees following. Four Oshkosh missile transporter trucks exited Central Park and fell in behind us. Then, five more Humvees began following the trucks. It went like clockwork; we’d been practicing it all week.
Our tiny utility vehicles were pathetic compared to the Oshkoshes. They growled and rumbled like a thirty-ton piece of military engineering was supposed to, thanks to their hydrogen combustion engines. The Humvee’s electric motors only produced a light whirring from under the hood.
Patrolling outside of an active combat zone took very little brain power. Riding along in a vehicle took even less. I was just thankful I had a lot to look at and occupy my thoughts with. Below me, Eaton and Private Broz could only stare out the tiny window next to them.
If any civilian watched us while patrolling, they would come away with the impression that we were perfectly calm and collected in the face of our extinction–we were even talking and making jokes with each other. In truth, the constant chatter was a distraction from the existential dread we all felt.
An alien coalition was trying to exterminate us, and we didn't have the ships or manpower to stop them. The fact that we were setting up missile defense systems in the first place was proof that the higher-ups weren’t betting on stopping the Federation in orbit. And if they got past our defenses, it was just a matter of dropping munitions on us until we ran out of crap to intercept them with.
For some reason or another, I let go of my rifle’s grip and spread my fingers out in front of me. The action took more effort than usual because they were stiff from me death gripping my weapon all day. Worse, they were trembling.
Don’t let them see that.
The soldiers below me were in a similar state. Eaton couldn’t stop one of his legs from shaking. In the driver’s seat, Specialist Hart’s collar was entirely soaked with sweat. Sterling held his rifle between his knees and drummed on its forend without rhythm.
I turned my attention outward to distract myself, but what I saw wasn’t any better. A crowd had gathered around a subway entrance, pushing and shoving in a futile effort to fit more people underground. Some people were more resigned to their fate. A father and son sat on a nearby bench and embraced each other, saying nothing. Two women held up their daughters and begged us to take them somewhere safe. We stopped doing evacuations days ago. Others were just lying on the sidewalk and letting tears stream down their faces.
The pit in my stomach grew harder to ignore.
Normally, I found Eaton’s constant prattling annoying, but I found myself silently thanking him for starting it up again.
“Hey, Broz, would you fuck an alien? I could hate-fuck a krakotl right now. Consensually, of course, I’m not a monster.”
The Private, having zoned out, had to snap back to attention. “Huh? Uh… yeah. I think so.”
“You think so?” Eaton asked, “What does that mean?”
Broz shrugged. “Well, it would depend on the circumstances, right? But I don’t think I’d say no just because they’re an alien.”
“Fair enough. What about you, Specialist?”
Hart kept her eyes on the road and answered tersely, “No.”
“C’mon, why not?”
She cursed under her breath, knowing she wasn’t getting away with such a short response. “Man, you don’t know what those aliens are carrying. They could give you Hepatitis X or some shit like that.”
Everyone in the Humvee chuckled.
“Coward.” Eaton smacked my thigh with the back of his hand. “Lieutenant?”
I thought for a moment before answering. “I’d fuck a venlil; they’re cute.”
“Can’t argue with that. Sergeant?”
Sterling just shook his head and laughed. “This is why none of us got into the Exchange Program.”
“We still had a chance,” Eaton protested. “I heard they let some real freaks into those in-person meetings–deviants, degenerates, vagrants, cyborgs–”
“You’re making shit up now,” I interjected from the gunner's position.
“I’m not! They paired this one six-foot brick shithouse with some lady that was like four feet–”
In an instant, our conversation was interrupted by a blaring horn, screeching tires, and my helmet impacting the gunner’s shield in front of me.
My vision darkened, and my head spun for a brief period before I was able to consciously act again. I wiped away the snot that dislodged from my sinuses, and I looked behind me. The bumper of the Humvee trailing us was buried in the rear of ours. The driver and gunner were looking at me with wide, terrified eyes. Upon looking forward, I found a teenager in the middle of the road wearing the same expression.
“What the fuck are you doing?!” I shouted down at him.
The kid blinked the shock out of his eyes before speaking. “Take me with you! I can help you guys, please!
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
“You want to help someone?” I climbed out of the gunner’s position and stepped from the roof to the hood, to the front bumper, and then to the pavement. “Prove you’ve got some hair on your balls?” He started to shrink away as I approached. “Stay out of the fucking road!”
I drove the barrel of my rifle as hard as I could into the teen’s chest. He sprawled backward, his heel caught the curb, and he fell flat on his ass. I immediately turned my back to him and began ascending back to my spot in the Humvee.
“You guys are fucking assholes, you know that!” The kid screamed at me.
“Piss of somewhere underground, kid,” was my response as I settled back into the gunner's seat.
“There’s no more room! You guys barely evacuated anyone!” He yelled back.
“Not my problem.”
The teenager’s eyes darted around with fury before settling on a glass bottle that was discarded in the gutter. In one quick motion, he picked up the container, stood, and launched it at my head with a “Fuck you!” It clipped the edge of the machine gun shield and exploded, spraying my face with glass shards. Luckily, the eye protection I wore lived up to its name.
Before I knew it, my weapon was up, and its safety clicked off. “You little shit!”
“The fuck are you doing, Lieutenant?!” Sergeant Sterling shouted from the passenger seat.
The kid stared down my barrel. His eyes dared me to pull the trigger.
A single gunshot ripped through the air and echoed off the buildings around us.
The kid went wide-eyed and froze.
I put another bullet over his head. “Run!”
The teenager finally gained some sense and darted into a nearby alley.
Suddenly, a hand wrapped around my collar and jerked me into the Humvee’s interior. I was face-to-face with my Platoon Sergeant for a second before a fist connected with my jaw.
“What the hell is wrong with you?! We don’t shoot at civilians, you fuck!” Sterling slammed my head into the vehicle’s roof.
“He threw a bottle at me!”
My helmet got acquainted with the roof again. “I don’t give a fuck! Get your shit together, or you’re going in the brig as soon as we get to Hamilton.”
We stared daggers at each other for a moment. I could tell from Sterling’s expression that he was ready and willing to knock me out right there.
I bit my tongue and punched the back of the driver’s seat. “Get this piece of shit moving!”
My Platoon Sergeant let go of me, and I stood back to my full height, giving the hand signal for the convoy to begin moving again.
As my vehicle pulled forward, I surveyed the damage to the Humvee behind us. The bumper was completely crumpled, but the chassis and motor suffered only minor damage. It would run for now, but someone–probably me–was going to get yelled at tomorrow for the damage.
If we even live to see tomorrow.
I shook that thought from my head, and I rammed my fist into the gunner's shield a few times, letting the pain distract from my pounding heart. .
Beneath me, Sergeant Eaton started ranting to Private Broz about how teenagers, especially boys, felt like they had to prove their masculinity and acted out in stupid ways to do so. I kicked him in the thigh to shut him up.
Focus, god damn it.
For the rest of the ride out of Manhattan, nobody felt like talking. We came to a checkpoint on the Brooklyn Bridge’s entry ramp, and another unit in our brigade waved us through. Their job was just to keep civilians off the crossing, not to hinder our movement.
As we went over the East River, I looked southwest into the Upper Bay. Three destroyers were anchored around Governor’s Island–not spaceships, but big floating boats. Nobody knew why the brass put them there, but our best guess was that they were for morale–to make us feel a little more protected. Of course, it didn’t work. It just made them look all the more desperate.
I made the mistake of looking up as well, and my heart leapt into my throat. A spacecraft, not of human design, was barreling through the atmosphere, billowing viscous gray smoke as its prow honed in on its target: us.
All hell broke loose as the Federation ship crossed an invisible threshold into radar range. Patriot missiles erupted from every borough, blanketing the ship in fire and shrapnel but leaving it unscathed–its shields were protecting it from damage. Another salvo launched not a moment later, but this time, the last few projectiles detonated directly against the craft’s hull, reducing entire sections of it to nothing but scrap.
One of the destroyers saw its opportunity and dispensed an enormous anti-ship missile into the air. It streaked toward the Federation craft with terrifying speed, punched through its armor, and blew it completely in half.
The tailing Humvee’s gunner cheered and pumped his fist in the air as what remained of our enemy plummeted to the ground somewhere in Yonkers. The sound reached us after a few seconds–a dozen thunderclaps punctuated by a deafening boom that I felt in my chest.
The noise startled Hart, and she swerved slightly before recovering. “What the hell was that?!”
Eaton replied before I could. “Feds just learned why it took us a hundred years to get socialized healthcare.”
Past the smoke trails and clouds of burning debris, I could make out more Federation ships. They were diving into the atmosphere like something was after them, creating extremely-noticeable cones of fire.
We’re not lasting long if it took that much firepower to destroy one of them.
I pressed the talk button on my radio and spoke into the receiver. “Convoy, we’re picking up the pace; a hundred klicks an hour until we reach Hamilton.”
The Humvee lurched forward as Hart put her foot to the floor. I crouched into the interior of the vehicle to avoid the cold and blinding wind.
“If we crash, don’t forget to use Broz as a meat shield,” Eaton joked.
I gave him my best unamused stare.
He held his hands up defensively and turned to stare out the window.
Our convoy decelerated as it took an off ramp. Then it snaked through the surface streets and onto the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. After that, we were on the fast track to Fort Hamilton.
Our air defenses opened up on three more Federation ships as we rolled through the facility’s main gate. Once we passed underneath the Verrazano Bridge, the Humvees in the convoy quickly found a spot to pull off the road while the missile transporters continued on. The platoon dismounted with urgency and jogged behind the Oshkoshes until they made it to the vehicle depot.
My men began backing up the trucks with more Patriot launchers while me and Sterling broke off to get orders from the Colonel. We found him just outside the depot’s entrance, gazing into the sky with eyes that were equal parts contemptuous and analytical.
“Sir, where is the last battery going?” My Platoon Sergeant asked.
The officer didn’t look down from the air battle taking place above us. “Set them up on the football field. We don’t have time to put them anywhere else.”
Sterling nodded quickly. “Yes, sir!”
The Colonel said something else as I walked into the building, but I didn’t hear it. My heart was in my ears, pounding and drowning out everything else. I stared at my platoon as they worked. Their faces were grim and resigned, but they moved with a speed and determination that I had rarely seen in them.
“Lieutenant!” Sterling smacked the side of my helmet as he passed. “C’mon, we still have a job to do!”
I steeled myself, and I joined the rest of my platoon in their labor, making my way down the line of missile carriers and relaying our commanding officer’s orders. My soldiers and the air defense operators didn’t bother mounting into the Humvees again; they just hung onto the Oshkoshes as they set off. Me and Sterling grabbed onto the last one. A week ago, we had so many launchers that they spilled into the base’s regular parking lots. Now, the depot was completely empty.
The trucks easily pushed over the chain link fence that surrounded the football field. They came to a stop on the fifty-yard line, and everyone dismounted. We had set up a Patriot battery several times just today, so the process of doing so was completed in no time.
I did my job–checking the control systems’ connections to the battery–and gave the ADA commander a thumbs up. She flipped a switch and the system sprang to life, erecting the launch tubes and lifting the whole machine a couple inches off the ground.
Like that, the last air defense system was in place; our job was done. I didn’t feel any sense of accomplishment, just anxiety creeping up my spine and into my brain again.
Suddenly, a piercing and unpleasant beeping sounded from the base’s intercom, followed by a voice shouting, “Incoming! Incoming! Incoming!”
Everyone hit the ground out of pure instinct.
Right underneath the brim of my helmet, I saw one of the Federation ships eject something from the bottom of its hull. As it fell, so did my stomach. I closed my eyes and brought my arm in front of my face, so I didn't have to watch what was coming.
There was a rush of heat and an intense roar, but I was still alive. The Patriot next to me had launched its payload, and I looked up just in time to see it blow the Federation’s bomb right out of the sky.
My Platoon Sergeant pulled me to my feet as another missile was launched. “Get up! Let’s get to cover!”
All around us, soldiers were running for the nearest building, forcing their way in using any method they could.
“Isaac!” Sterling shouted in my face while shaking me.
I was able to meet his eyes, but the only response I could muster was a stuttering nod. I couldn’t get the metallic taste out of my mouth or the pounding in my ears.
He turned me around and pushed me to follow my men. I did so, but not consciously. All my focus was on keeping it together.
Don’t let them see.
I found myself entering an office building through a shattered glass door. Eaton and Sterling were yelling at me to get on the ground. I ignored them and tried to stop myself from shaking.
Don’t let them see.
I found a door that opened to a dark staircase and descended to a dingy hallway. I passed an open janitor’s closet and entered a poorly-lit bathroom.
I looked at myself in the mirror. Wet, terrified eyes stared back at me. I smashed the reflection with the toilet tank’s lid.
You’re an officer; get yourself together.
I couldn’t. I collapsed in front of the toilet and spewed acidic bile into it.
Everything was shaking–my hands, my body, my bones, the ground beneath me.
Then everything went dark.
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Memory Transcription Subject: Lieutenant Isaac Yankovic
Date [standardized human time]: October 17th, 2136
Everyone wonders what they would do at the end of the world; I didn’t have to. I had no bunker to cower in because they were already full. I had no family to spend my last moments with because I never knew them. All I had was 41 brothers in arms to take care of, and I was not going to fail them.
Our unit, the 42nd Infantry Division, was just that: infantry. Us Eleven Bravos could do very little to affect the outcome of a space battle, but that didn’t mean we were going to sit on our asses and let the Federation drop antimatter on us with impunity. The plan was to pack America's largest population centers with so many air defense systems that their skies became effectively impenetrable.
Yesterday, we crossed into New Jersey to set up a long-range radar system and two THAAD batteries in Lincoln Park. The day before, we scattered a dozen Patriot launchers on Randalls and Wards Islands. As of now, we’re placing an anti-air system in every open space between Lower Manhattan and Harlem. Central Park was the biggest and most obvious option, so it was getting the most attention.
My unit, First Platoon, Bravo Company, was assigned to security duty. That meant patrolling around the southern edge of the park, keeping civilians out of the way and the crazies at bay. More than once, we had to turn away someone who was trying to walk their dog or go for a casual morning run. Me and Eaton, one of my Staff Sergeants, had taken to speculating about these people to occupy ourselves.
“Do you think they’re just delusional?” I thought aloud as we strolled down 59th Street.
New York’s sidewalks and roads, once teeming with life, were now mostly abandoned. This would have made the city much more peaceful, but the engineers were making more than enough racket further into Central Park. They had to clear launch vectors and ground paths for Patriot and C-RAM systems. As a result, the swift reports of C4 charges or det-cord exploding, followed by the creaks, snaps, and groans of a centuries-old tree falling over, replaced the usual hustle and bustle.
“Nah, man.” Eaton said while not entirely paying attention. “They’re in denial, not delusional.”
“What’s the difference?” I asked while surveying the streets parallel to us for any pedestrians.
“It’s psychology.” He tapped his temple like he actually knew something about the topic. “Those people might seem delusional, but they know exactly what’s going on. It's why they’re doing leisure activities. They’re pretending everything’s okay to distract themselves from that.” He pointed up.
The space battle raging above us appeared as thousands of tiny bursts of light against the otherwise pristine blue background, occasionally punctuated by the brilliant white flash and thunderclap of something falling through the atmosphere and vaporizing.
Eaton continued. “The ones that are truly delusional are sitting in their cubicles right now, typing away without noticing that no one else came into work today.”
“And the stupid ones traffic-jammed the Carey Tunnel.” I added offhandedly.
“And the smart one’s fucked off to a cabin in the woods as soon as first contact was announced.”
“We definitely aren’t in that group; we joined the Army.”
Eaton chuckled. “There's a reason the slogan used to be Army Strong, not Army Smart.”
Our patrol route was just a straight line from Central Park’s south gate to Grand Army Plaza, where we could admire the golden visage of William Tecumseh Sherman and salute him as we passed. On the way back, we would meet up with First Squad, exchange inane jokes with them, and continue on until we reached the entrance again.
It was an important assignment, but it did little to occupy the mind. I found myself thinking too much when I wasn’t bullshitting with Eaton.
Are we giving people false hope by putting all these anti-air systems here? Did they choose to stay because of us? Would the air-defense batteries even work?
I was brought out of my rumination by the radio on my chest garbling something incomprehensible. “Say again?” I asked the receiver.
“The trucks need an escort back to Hamilton,” the voice of my platoon sergeant, Sterling, replied.
“Copy. Everyone meet up at the main gate.”
My sergeants responded with a simple “Wilco” over the radio.
“I hope those bastards try to come down here,” Eaton commented while we began picking up the pace. “It’d be fun watching them walk into the shitstorm we’re making.”
I slung my rifle over my shoulder and quickened to a light jog alongside him. “The real fun will be if any of them touch the ground alive.”
“Damn right, sir.”
Me, Eaton, and Second Squad closed the gap to the park’s entrance in no time. First Squad was right on our heels, but they were significantly more winded because they had to break into a dead sprint to catch up.
Sergeant Sterling and the rest of the platoon were waiting for us among a cordon of Humvees and NYPD cruisers. “I haven’t seen you boys move like that since basic,” he said with a slight smile tugging at his lips.
“Maybe you haven’t been properly motivating us, sir,” Eaton quipped while climbing into the lead Humvee’s rear seat.
Sterling rolled his eyes and took the front passenger seat. “Of course! All I needed was a goddamn alien invasion to get you off your asses.”
“Whatever. We still do plenty of work. Right, Lieutenant?”
“If making up bullshit was a job, we’d be earning six figures.” I climbed up the vehicle’s hood into the gunner’s position. There wasn’t a machine gun in the mount, but it was smart to have someone up there for situational awareness.
A specialist took the driver’s seat, and Private Broz took the spot across from Eaton. The driver flipped the vehicle’s switch and pulled forward, with three other Humvees following. Four Oshkosh missile transporter trucks exited Central Park and fell in behind us. Then, five more Humvees began following the trucks. It went like clockwork; we’d been practicing it all week.
Our tiny utility vehicles were pathetic compared to the Oshkoshes. They growled and rumbled like a thirty-ton piece of military engineering was supposed to, thanks to their hydrogen combustion engines. The Humvee’s electric motors only produced a light whirring from under the hood.
Patrolling outside of an active combat zone took very little brain power. Riding along in a vehicle took even less. I was just thankful I had a lot to look at and occupy my thoughts with. Below me, Eaton and Private Broz could only stare out the tiny window next to them.
If any civilian watched us while patrolling, they would come away with the impression that we were perfectly calm and collected in the face of our extinction–we were even talking and making jokes with each other. In truth, the constant chatter was a distraction from the existential dread we all felt.
An alien coalition was trying to exterminate us, and we didn't have the ships or manpower to stop them. The fact that we were setting up missile defense systems in the first place was proof that the higher-ups weren’t betting on stopping the Federation in orbit. And if they got past our defenses, it was just a matter of dropping munitions on us until we ran out of crap to intercept them with.
For some reason or another, I let go of my rifle’s grip and spread my fingers out in front of me. The action took more effort than usual because they were stiff from me death gripping my weapon all day. Worse, they were trembling.
Don’t let them see that.
The soldiers below me were in a similar state. Eaton couldn’t stop one of his legs from shaking. In the driver’s seat, Specialist Hart’s collar was entirely soaked with sweat. Sterling held his rifle between his knees and drummed on its forend without rhythm.
I turned my attention outward to distract myself, but what I saw wasn’t any better. A crowd had gathered around a subway entrance, pushing and shoving in a futile effort to fit more people underground. Some people were more resigned to their fate. A father and son sat on a nearby bench and embraced each other, saying nothing. Two women held up their daughters and begged us to take them somewhere safe. We stopped doing evacuations days ago. Others were just lying on the sidewalk and letting tears stream down their faces.
The pit in my stomach grew harder to ignore.
Normally, I found Eaton’s constant prattling annoying, but I found myself silently thanking him for starting it up again.
“Hey, Broz, would you fuck an alien? I could hate-fuck a krakotl right now. Consensually, of course, I’m not a monster.”
The Private, having zoned out, had to snap back to attention. “Huh? Uh… yeah. I think so.”
“You think so?” Eaton asked, “What does that mean?”
Broz shrugged. “Well, it would depend on the circumstances, right? But I don’t think I’d say no just because they’re an alien.”
“Fair enough. What about you, Specialist?”
Hart kept her eyes on the road and answered tersely, “No.”
“C’mon, why not?”
She cursed under her breath, knowing she wasn’t getting away with such a short response. “Man, you don’t know what those aliens are carrying. They could give you Hepatitis X or some shit like that.”
Everyone in the Humvee chuckled.
“Coward.” Eaton smacked my thigh with the back of his hand. “Lieutenant?”
I thought for a moment before answering. “I’d fuck a venlil; they’re cute.”
“Can’t argue with that. Sergeant?”
Sterling just shook his head and laughed. “This is why none of us got into the Exchange Program.”
“We still had a chance,” Eaton protested. “I heard they let some real freaks into those in-person meetings–deviants, degenerates, vagrants, cyborgs–”
“You’re making shit up now,” I interjected from the gunner's position.
“I’m not! They paired this one six-foot brick shithouse with some lady that was like four feet–”
In an instant, our conversation was interrupted by a blaring horn, screeching tires, and my helmet impacting the gunner’s shield in front of me.
My vision darkened, and my head spun for a brief period before I was able to consciously act again. I wiped away the snot that dislodged from my sinuses, and I looked behind me. The bumper of the Humvee trailing us was buried in the rear of ours. The driver and gunner were looking at me with wide, terrified eyes. Upon looking forward, I found a teenager in the middle of the road wearing the same expression.
“What the fuck are you doing?!” I shouted down at him.
The kid blinked the shock out of his eyes before speaking. “Take me with you! I can help you guys, please!
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
“You want to help someone?” I climbed out of the gunner’s position and stepped from the roof to the hood, to the front bumper, and then to the pavement. “Prove you’ve got some hair on your balls?” He started to shrink away as I approached. “Stay out of the fucking road!”
I drove the barrel of my rifle as hard as I could into the teen’s chest. He sprawled backward, his heel caught the curb, and he fell flat on his ass. I immediately turned my back to him and began ascending back to my spot in the Humvee.
“You guys are fucking assholes, you know that!” The kid screamed at me.
“Piss of somewhere underground, kid,” was my response as I settled back into the gunner's seat.
“There’s no more room! You guys barely evacuated anyone!” He yelled back.
“Not my problem.”
The teenager’s eyes darted around with fury before settling on a glass bottle that was discarded in the gutter. In one quick motion, he picked up the container, stood, and launched it at my head with a “Fuck you!” It clipped the edge of the machine gun shield and exploded, spraying my face with glass shards. Luckily, the eye protection I wore lived up to its name.
Before I knew it, my weapon was up, and its safety clicked off. “You little shit!”
“The fuck are you doing, Lieutenant?!” Sergeant Sterling shouted from the passenger seat.
The kid stared down my barrel. His eyes dared me to pull the trigger.
A single gunshot ripped through the air and echoed off the buildings around us.
The kid went wide-eyed and froze.
I put another bullet over his head. “Run!”
The teenager finally gained some sense and darted into a nearby alley.
Suddenly, a hand wrapped around my collar and jerked me into the Humvee’s interior. I was face-to-face with my Platoon Sergeant for a second before a fist connected with my jaw.
“What the hell is wrong with you?! We don’t shoot at civilians, you fuck!” Sterling slammed my head into the vehicle’s roof.
“He threw a bottle at me!”
My helmet got acquainted with the roof again. “I don’t give a fuck! Get your shit together, or you’re going in the brig as soon as we get to Hamilton.”
We stared daggers at each other for a moment. I could tell from Sterling’s expression that he was ready and willing to knock me out right there.
I bit my tongue and punched the back of the driver’s seat. “Get this piece of shit moving!”
My Platoon Sergeant let go of me, and I stood back to my full height, giving the hand signal for the convoy to begin moving again.
As my vehicle pulled forward, I surveyed the damage to the Humvee behind us. The bumper was completely crumpled, but the chassis and motor suffered only minor damage. It would run for now, but someone–probably me–was going to get yelled at tomorrow for the damage.
If we even live to see tomorrow.
I shook that thought from my head, and I rammed my fist into the gunner's shield a few times, letting the pain distract from my pounding heart. .
Beneath me, Sergeant Eaton started ranting to Private Broz about how teenagers, especially boys, felt like they had to prove their masculinity and acted out in stupid ways to do so. I kicked him in the thigh to shut him up.
Focus, god damn it.
For the rest of the ride out of Manhattan, nobody felt like talking. We came to a checkpoint on the Brooklyn Bridge’s entry ramp, and another unit in our brigade waved us through. Their job was just to keep civilians off the crossing, not to hinder our movement.
As we went over the East River, I looked southwest into the Upper Bay. Three destroyers were anchored around Governor’s Island–not spaceships, but big floating boats. Nobody knew why the brass put them there, but our best guess was that they were for morale–to make us feel a little more protected. Of course, it didn’t work. It just made them look all the more desperate.
I made the mistake of looking up as well, and my heart leapt into my throat. A spacecraft, not of human design, was barreling through the atmosphere, billowing viscous gray smoke as its prow honed in on its target: us.
All hell broke loose as the Federation ship crossed an invisible threshold into radar range. Patriot missiles erupted from every borough, blanketing the ship in fire and shrapnel but leaving it unscathed–its shields were protecting it from damage. Another salvo launched not a moment later, but this time, the last few projectiles detonated directly against the craft’s hull, reducing entire sections of it to nothing but scrap.
One of the destroyers saw its opportunity and dispensed an enormous anti-ship missile into the air. It streaked toward the Federation craft with terrifying speed, punched through its armor, and blew it completely in half.
The tailing Humvee’s gunner cheered and pumped his fist in the air as what remained of our enemy plummeted to the ground somewhere in Yonkers. The sound reached us after a few seconds–a dozen thunderclaps punctuated by a deafening boom that I felt in my chest.
The noise startled Hart, and she swerved slightly before recovering. “What the hell was that?!”
Eaton replied before I could. “Feds just learned why it took us a hundred years to get socialized healthcare.”
Past the smoke trails and clouds of burning debris, I could make out more Federation ships. They were diving into the atmosphere like something was after them, creating extremely-noticeable cones of fire.
We’re not lasting long if it took that much firepower to destroy one of them.
I pressed the talk button on my radio and spoke into the receiver. “Convoy, we’re picking up the pace; a hundred klicks an hour until we reach Hamilton.”
The Humvee lurched forward as Hart put her foot to the floor. I crouched into the interior of the vehicle to avoid the cold and blinding wind.
“If we crash, don’t forget to use Broz as a meat shield,” Eaton joked.
I gave him my best unamused stare.
He held his hands up defensively and turned to stare out the window.
Our convoy decelerated as it took an off ramp. Then it snaked through the surface streets and onto the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. After that, we were on the fast track to Fort Hamilton.
Our air defenses opened up on three more Federation ships as we rolled through the facility’s main gate. Once we passed underneath the Verrazano Bridge, the Humvees in the convoy quickly found a spot to pull off the road while the missile transporters continued on. The platoon dismounted with urgency and jogged behind the Oshkoshes until they made it to the vehicle depot.
My men began backing up the trucks with more Patriot launchers while me and Sterling broke off to get orders from the Colonel. We found him just outside the depot’s entrance, gazing into the sky with eyes that were equal parts contemptuous and analytical.
“Sir, where is the last battery going?” My Platoon Sergeant asked.
The officer didn’t look down from the air battle taking place above us. “Set them up on the football field. We don’t have time to put them anywhere else.”
Sterling nodded quickly. “Yes, sir!”
The Colonel said something else as I walked into the building, but I didn’t hear it. My heart was in my ears, pounding and drowning out everything else. I stared at my platoon as they worked. Their faces were grim and resigned, but they moved with a speed and determination that I had rarely seen in them.
“Lieutenant!” Sterling smacked the side of my helmet as he passed. “C’mon, we still have a job to do!”
I steeled myself, and I joined the rest of my platoon in their labor, making my way down the line of missile carriers and relaying our commanding officer’s orders. My soldiers and the air defense operators didn’t bother mounting into the Humvees again; they just hung onto the Oshkoshes as they set off. Me and Sterling grabbed onto the last one. A week ago, we had so many launchers that they spilled into the base’s regular parking lots. Now, the depot was completely empty.
The trucks easily pushed over the chain link fence that surrounded the football field. They came to a stop on the fifty-yard line, and everyone dismounted. We had set up a Patriot battery several times just today, so the process of doing so was completed in no time.
I did my job–checking the control systems’ connections to the battery–and gave the ADA commander a thumbs up. She flipped a switch and the system sprang to life, erecting the launch tubes and lifting the whole machine a couple inches off the ground.
Like that, the last air defense system was in place; our job was done. I didn’t feel any sense of accomplishment, just anxiety creeping up my spine and into my brain again.
Suddenly, a piercing and unpleasant beeping sounded from the base’s intercom, followed by a voice shouting, “Incoming! Incoming! Incoming!”
Everyone hit the ground out of pure instinct.
Right underneath the brim of my helmet, I saw one of the Federation ships eject something from the bottom of its hull. As it fell, so did my stomach. I closed my eyes and brought my arm in front of my face, so I didn't have to watch what was coming.
There was a rush of heat and an intense roar, but I was still alive. The Patriot next to me had launched its payload, and I looked up just in time to see it blow the Federation’s bomb right out of the sky.
My Platoon Sergeant pulled me to my feet as another missile was launched. “Get up! Let’s get to cover!”
All around us, soldiers were running for the nearest building, forcing their way in using any method they could.
“Isaac!” Sterling shouted in my face while shaking me.
I was able to meet his eyes, but the only response I could muster was a stuttering nod. I couldn’t get the metallic taste out of my mouth or the pounding in my ears.
He turned me around and pushed me to follow my men. I did so, but not consciously. All my focus was on keeping it together.
Don’t let them see.
I found myself entering an office building through a shattered glass door. Eaton and Sterling were yelling at me to get on the ground. I ignored them and tried to stop myself from shaking.
Don’t let them see.
I found a door that opened to a dark staircase and descended to a dingy hallway. I passed an open janitor’s closet and entered a poorly-lit bathroom.
I looked at myself in the mirror. Wet, terrified eyes stared back at me. I smashed the reflection with the toilet tank’s lid.
You’re an officer; get yourself together.
I couldn’t. I collapsed in front of the toilet and spewed acidic bile into it.
Everything was shaking–my hands, my body, my bones, the ground beneath me.
Then everything went dark.
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2023.11.20 00:18 TheStateMilitia 20231119 – Energy Cooperation
The dismantling of California’s San Onofre nuclear power plant is more than 60% completed. California allegedly considers itself a pioneer in coexisting with the natural environment, preventing resource abuse, conservationism, and green initiatives. Edicts and proclamations similar to the Soviet Union’s 5-year plans are used. Every slogan is more potent than the previous one, presumably pushing the agenda of developed technologies and promoting the state.
Unfortunately, the reality is more gloomy than the propaganda. According to Britannica’s Annual Almanac, California has to buy 75% of its electricity from other states to solve its power deficit. The same publication states that 65% of electrical power produced in the USA is coal-based. That means that 48.75% of all power utilized in California is based on coal. Per the PG&E report, 20% of all the power generated in California falls under “unreliable” resources. Unreliable resources are those that can not be factored into the risk models and supply chains, such wind and solar energy.
If you travel through highly populated areas of California, like the SF Bay Area and Los Angeles, you will learn that the average household has recently upgraded its main panel to double its delivery capacity. It is often done with subscription over the nominal limit due to lack of grid capacity. The state forces the local delivery agency to focus on converting the last-mile delivery grid to the underground. The project is financed from the customers’ pockets since the state passed the resolution allowing PG&E to offset any business expenses via direct invoicing. It is better than most may think since the science behind the installation claims that there is no probability that a household will require the total capacity of the fuse box delivered all at once. With the forced introduction of Electric vehicles, the average power consumption in residential communities has leveled between night and day power grid utilization. An average vehicle battery charge uses 50 Amps of power.
To offset the looming lack of power and avoid rolling blackouts like in the summer of 2023, California has decided to extend the life span of the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant. The banners of the green future remind more of the empty election platform as the propagandists forgot two critical assets required to succeed: power generation and power delivery. The logistics are missing and archaic. There is no long-term plan to resolve this. If only we had a long-term strategy to produce electrical power in abundance, which in turn would have solved some significant economic problems for the community: cheap power, water desolation, production of Hydrogen as the next potential fuel as the on-board energy generation for airplanes, trains, trucks, busses, cars. Cheaper logistics mean lower prices on food and goods, which increases everyone’s quality of life without stressing the dying economy even more.
Imagine the States getting together and working out the solution. For example, the States of space and deserts can create Fast Neutron power plants, which can use the fuel from the piled stashed nuclear arsenal, solving the problem of the deficit of nuclear resources. The power is distributed through AC and DC grids to the water-bordering States, like California, which can generate large quantities of water. At this point, we can cease Hydrogen production from Crude Oil on refineries, and it become feasible to produce it from water, making it cheap enough to develop technologies that will move generations of humans around. This is just a dream and can continue this snowball effect of benefits into the future. The long-term impact of education, critical thinking, science, and collaboration instead of proclamation and usurpation of power – is a dream come true.
The original article can be found here: http://ca.thestatemilitia.org/20231119-energy-cooperation/
#20231119 #blackout #cars #cooperation #editorial #ev #grid #hydrogen #oil #pge #power #states #vehicle
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Unfortunately, the reality is more gloomy than the propaganda. According to Britannica’s Annual Almanac, California has to buy 75% of its electricity from other states to solve its power deficit. The same publication states that 65% of electrical power produced in the USA is coal-based. That means that 48.75% of all power utilized in California is based on coal. Per the PG&E report, 20% of all the power generated in California falls under “unreliable” resources. Unreliable resources are those that can not be factored into the risk models and supply chains, such wind and solar energy.
If you travel through highly populated areas of California, like the SF Bay Area and Los Angeles, you will learn that the average household has recently upgraded its main panel to double its delivery capacity. It is often done with subscription over the nominal limit due to lack of grid capacity. The state forces the local delivery agency to focus on converting the last-mile delivery grid to the underground. The project is financed from the customers’ pockets since the state passed the resolution allowing PG&E to offset any business expenses via direct invoicing. It is better than most may think since the science behind the installation claims that there is no probability that a household will require the total capacity of the fuse box delivered all at once. With the forced introduction of Electric vehicles, the average power consumption in residential communities has leveled between night and day power grid utilization. An average vehicle battery charge uses 50 Amps of power.
To offset the looming lack of power and avoid rolling blackouts like in the summer of 2023, California has decided to extend the life span of the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant. The banners of the green future remind more of the empty election platform as the propagandists forgot two critical assets required to succeed: power generation and power delivery. The logistics are missing and archaic. There is no long-term plan to resolve this. If only we had a long-term strategy to produce electrical power in abundance, which in turn would have solved some significant economic problems for the community: cheap power, water desolation, production of Hydrogen as the next potential fuel as the on-board energy generation for airplanes, trains, trucks, busses, cars. Cheaper logistics mean lower prices on food and goods, which increases everyone’s quality of life without stressing the dying economy even more.
Imagine the States getting together and working out the solution. For example, the States of space and deserts can create Fast Neutron power plants, which can use the fuel from the piled stashed nuclear arsenal, solving the problem of the deficit of nuclear resources. The power is distributed through AC and DC grids to the water-bordering States, like California, which can generate large quantities of water. At this point, we can cease Hydrogen production from Crude Oil on refineries, and it become feasible to produce it from water, making it cheap enough to develop technologies that will move generations of humans around. This is just a dream and can continue this snowball effect of benefits into the future. The long-term impact of education, critical thinking, science, and collaboration instead of proclamation and usurpation of power – is a dream come true.
The original article can be found here: http://ca.thestatemilitia.org/20231119-energy-cooperation/
#20231119 #blackout #cars #cooperation #editorial #ev #grid #hydrogen #oil #pge #power #states #vehicle
2023.11.11 04:43 AJAYD48 Thoughts about Death
I've noticed a few threads here about death. Here's some material from a book I wrote. Free copies are here.
Universal Theology: A New Theology, Arthur D'Adamo
http://adamford.com/NTheo/NewTheology.epub
http://adamford.com/NTheo/NewTheology.pdf
What happens to me after death? Do I survive in some form or another? We’ll explore the questions and speculate about some answers, without pretending to any special knowledge as to what actually occurs.
The idea of an eternal heaven and hell raises some problems.
The first problem is that heaven or hell seem inappropriate for the great majority of people, who live moderately good lives (but don’t dedicate themselves to helping the poor, or to ceaselessly praying to God) and moderately bad lives (sometimes dishonest or selfish or unkind).
The second problem concerns the nature of the self. Over a lifetime, a person will have many selves, e.g., the infant, the student; the employee; the spouse, the parent, the grandparent. Given that temporary selves come and go, we may ask: Which of our many temporary selves persist into the afterlife? Which selves go to heaven (or hell)?
Consider, for example, Saint Augustine, who was sexually active in his youth, fathering a son with a woman he never married. He famously prayed: “God, give me chastity and continency, only not yet.” Later, he repented and became a saint. Did Augustine’s erotic self go to heaven along with his saintly self?
Or consider Zoe, a sweet old woman who passed at 90. Imagine Zoe had a characteristic fault, say, envy. If Zoe goes to heaven, does her envious self go there, too?
Another problem: once in heaven can I change and grow? Can I gain and lose temporary selves? Suppose Ann, Zoe’s granddaughter, looks forward to meeting Zoe in heaven. Ann remembers Zoe as she was at 90. But suppose in heaven Zoe prefers her 19-year-old body to her 90-year-old body. And suppose Zoe’s envious self no longer exists. And suppose Zoe has satisfied a lifelong wish to understand Einstein’s general theory of relativity. Being in heaven, she can easily fulfill that wish. When Ann finally meets Zoe in heaven, does she meet the person she expected to meet? Or a disappointingly different person?
Further, in heaven, Zoe can learn anything she wishes and—within limits—become anything she wishes. Within limits. But eternity is a long, long, long time. After untold billions and trillions of years, do the limits chafe? Might Zoe eventually desire the ultimate: to become God? The legend of Satan’s rebellion in heaven seems to answer “Yes.” The story suggests eternal existence as a separate person may ultimately become unsatisfying. Perhaps only God can withstand eternity.
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. — Susan Ertz
Another observation is that heaven and hell make the universe (also called “creation”) pointless. The reasoning is as follows:
Buddhism also has the idea of reincarnation except in Buddhism no permanent self exists. Buddhism says that the permanent self is illusory. It says there is nothing underlying the temporary selves that come and go.[v] We are at any time merely a bundle of our current temporary selves. This idea occurs in Buddhism’s Anatta[vi] doctrine (non-self doctrine) which says I consist only of the “five aggregates”: perception, material form, feelings, mental activity, and consciousness. At death, the five aggregates cease to function or disperse (as the atoms of our body return to the biosphere) and I simply cease to exist.
Yet Buddhism accepts that reincarnation is possible. Reincarnation of what? A difficult question. One answer is that, as in Hinduism, some residue of our temporary selves somehow forms the personality of a newborn. Just as one candle lights another, passing on its flame, somehow our tendencies pass on to another being, a being which also lacks a permanent self.
Like being trapped in some closed, confined space? No. If I’ve left the body, then I am spaceless. Without a body, what is there to be confined? Can a box confine thought? Can a box limit emotion? Can a box imprison consciousness? Evidently not. So, let’s imagine the emotion/thought/consciousness complex free floating, in some vast space, or a place where the word “space” has no meaning.
A fish freed from a bottle, swimming in a vast ocean, might look back at the bottle and notice how small and limiting the bottle was. We might reflect on what the body/emotion/mind complex usually contained: merely pleasant or unpleasant body sensations, happy or sad emotions, thoughts of various kinds. Nothing profound, usually. We might see memory, too, and all the past snapshots memory holds. And it all might seems so . . . small. Finite. Interesting in its own way. But does it all merit remembering? Or can much of it be forgotten?[vii] Most people are born with no memory of a past life. And for those that do claim memories of a past life, the memories are often of a traumatic incident such as being executed or dying in some accident. If we reincarnate, do we routinely forget most of our past life?[viii]
Let’s now imagine consciousness in the between-lives state. The Tibetan Book of the Dead[ix] describes what occurs, according to Tibetan belief. Briefly, the consciousness/tendencies complex begins a natural ascent to its source, its ultimate ground: the Real. On first encountering the Incomprehensible Boundless Light, some deceased persons merge, losing their separate identity and ending reincarnations. Other deceased persons retreat from the intensity of supreme naked reality, and descend to lower levels of existence. The text describes the deceased as experiencing “peaceful” and “wrathful” deities before finally incarnating in a physical body. We might imagine some deceased persons able to wander in the Mindscape, sampling thoughts and ideas as they please. We might imagine others wandering the Emotescape, sampling emotions of all kinds. Others descend to the physical plane, taking birth in another body, previous existence having been mostly forgotten, although there are stories of young children recalling scenes from an alleged previous life. Reincarnation has occurred.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead says the “peaceful” and “wrathful” deities are projections of one’s own mind. We might imagine experiencing peaceful deities as heaven and wrathful deities as hell. But why would our own mind create such experiences?
Imagine a loving person who spent their life helping others, trying to make the world a better place. A person who thought, mostly, kind, loving and noble thoughts. That person alone with his/her emotions and thoughts would be in a light, elevated place: a “heaven.”
On the other hand, imagine a person who spent a life filled with greed, hate, and anger alone with those emotions. He will have no one to hate but himself. No one to be the target of his anger but himself. The experience would be a dark, oppressive state: a “hell.”
Thus, there could be a type of judgment built into the universe, without the need of some God who is a person. A judgment based on the fact that it’s more comfortable to experience love rather than hate, more comfortable to experience peace rather than violence. There could be a temporary, non-eternal heaven and hell awaiting us in the between-lives state.
So, another answer is that at death my deep self and temporary selves simply cease to exist. One moment I’m consciousness—let’s say, right now. The next moment Arthur is nowhere to be found.[x] His permanent self, if he had one, has vanished. Death is the end, utter annihilation.
Let’s suppose for a moment that this is the case; that when I die, I utterly cease to exist. Many people would find the idea frightening, even horrifying. However, if I cease to exist, I won’t be there to know it. The thought is not so threatening when I realize that I can never experience the state of non-existing.[xi] After I realize that, ceasing to exist may seem less fearful, even inconsequential. For, if we rule out reincarnation, then before I existed, I couldn’t experience anything, including the state of non-existing.
“I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” — Mark Twain
Similarly, if I utterly cease to exist after death, I’ll never know it. I’ll never experience it. I can only experience the thought of non-existing. A thought may be sad or frightening, but it’s still only a thought. Thoughts come and go.
Sadness might be a more appropriate response. For if I cease to exist upon death, then all those who have died previously—family members, friends, acquaintances—have ceased to exist, too. If that were true, it would be natural to experience sadness.
Many people are deeply attached to the idea of an eternal soul, or to some sort of continued existence. The no-afterlife answer may appear threatening and frightening. It’s natural that an ego would regard non-existence as a horror.
A response is that being a soul—being an eternal individual, eternally separate from God—may not be so desirable, as we noted previously in the legend of Satan’s rebellion in heaven.
Also, we can contrast the idea of an eternal soul with another, possibly superior, concept. The idea of an eternal soul says we came into the universe. It suggests we are not a part of nature, but spiritual visitors in a material world. Thus, the only world we know is depreciated. Matter is dumb and “there must be something more.” And the environment suffers abuse.
A possibly superior concept is that we didn’t come coming into the universe; we came out of it.[xii] Our relation to the universe is like that of the apple to the apple tree. That I (or, at least, my body) came out of the universe is why the common elements of the universe (with one exception) are the common elements of my body. The most abundant elements in the universe are hydrogen, helium, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen, in descending order. Helium is a noble gas that doesn’t combine with other elements to form molecules. If we discard helium, we find that the most abundant elements in the human body are hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, in descending order.
The universe has become me (and everything else). And we know matter is hardly dumb. Rather, it contains complexity beyond imagination. In trying to understand matter, we are forced to ideas like string theory and quantum field theory, complex theories that may not be complex enough to capture all that matter can do.
If we call matter “dumb” we insult ourselves, because matter is what we are. If we understood ourselves correctly—as temporary manifestations of something vast and ancient beyond comprehension—that would be enough.
So, suppose death is the utter end to Arthur. So what? Why should I care if my finite self persists beyond the life of the body? Most of the time, my finite self focuses on corresponding finite concerns - how to be comfortable; how to gain wealth, power and fame—or focuses on entertainment that puts the mind in a passive state, so that I can hardly remember an advertisement I saw just a few minutes ago. Of course, our lives are also filled with noble moments, too. Moments of love, of empathy, of elevated thoughts. But these moments pale measured against our infinite self, our vast and ancient larger self, the universe itself.
Perhaps, eternal existence as a limited, finite self is not as desirable as it seems. In any case, it can be argued that non-existence is nothing to fear.
As we’ve seen, if I’m merely matter, matter which lacks a soul, then it’s plain that I didn’t come into the universe; I came out of it. My body emerged from the universe. I emerged from the universe. I am not separate from the universe but a part of it. The universe gave me birth. It is my parent. Something which is ancient and vast beyond imagination has given me birth. I am a person on a planet with billions of other people, a planet that is a microscopic speck of dust in an almost infinite universe.
I am a small speck. Yet, I can contemplate the vast and ancient universe. I feel my small presence in the infinite universe and the feeling is an odd mixture: one part realizing my own smallness and insignificance; one part feeling a part of a vast, magnificent universe, no matter if only an infinitesimally small part. The universe has created me. I am not the universe but the universe is me, just as the wave is not the ocean but the ocean is the wave. Something ancient and vast has become me.
The God’s Script[xiii] by Jorge Luis Borges tells the story of Tzinacán, an Aztec priest imprisoned and tortured by the Spaniards. After decades in prison, Tzinacán has a vision; he believes certain words of power will destroy his stone prison, evict the Spaniards, reconstruct his nation, and make him immortal. But he knows he never shall utter the words, because “Whoever has seen the universe, whoever has beheld the fiery designs of the universe, cannot think in terms of one man, or that man’s trivial fortunes or misfortunes, though he be that very man.”
Tzinacán has achieved salvation, salvation from ego concerns, a type of salvation unlike the ego salvation of Old Theology religions.
We live in an unimaginably vast and ancient universe. Yet, our concerns often revolve about ourselves. Ego issues dominate: “I want to go to heaven. I want to be reincarnated. I. Me. I.” Ego concerns are understandable; they help us survive. But the person who can self-transcend, who can rise above ego; the person who can say to the Real, “You exist. And that’s enough for me. What does it matter if this finite, flawed human being lives for eternity, or is snuffed out like a candle?”—that person has a faith and a love for God far above those who practice religion out of fear of hell, hope of heaven, or of a better reincarnation.
A person who achieves that perspective while still in the body has achieved some degree of self-transcendence. That person finds their “I” in the Real rather than in the ego and its transitory selves. Mystic slogans such as “Die before you die” and “The art of dying” take on a real, literal meaning. Self-transcendence utterly defeats death. For if I die to my transitory selves before the death of my body, then there is nothing that death can take.
Although our fate immediately after death is unknown, in a monist system the ultimate fate of the individual can be nothing other than merging with the ultimate ground of all.
You are not the body. You are not the mind.
You are something different, lying far behind.
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[i] The after-death destination of Limbo once existed in the Roman Catholic Church but has recently fallen out of favor.
[ii] Existence in heaven raises other questions about selfhood. Consider the idea of an assembly of selves. Suppose Joe at six years old was happy and optimistic; a more mature person when he received his first romantic kiss; at twenty, a personal tragedy turned him pessimistic and dour; at forty, Joe was a sober, responsible family man; at death, a calm, retired introvert. Is Joe in heaven somehow a composite of all these selves? If Joe goes to hell, do all the selves suffer, even the happy, optimistic six-year older?
[iii] Inherited tendencies imply very young children already possess a personality. Inherited abilities would explain prodigies such as Mozart, a prepubescent chess master, etc.
[iv] Refer https://www.chakras.net/yoga-principles/jivatma-atma-paramatma
[v] The philosopher David Hume also believed that there is no self.
[vi] (Annata, n.d.) “In Buddhism, the term anattā (Pali) or anātman (Sanskrit) refers to the doctrine of "non-self" – that no unchanging, permanent self or essence can be found in any phenomenon While often interpreted as a doctrine denying the existence of a self, anatman is more accurately described as a strategy to attain non-attachment by recognizing anything as impermanent, while staying silent on the ultimate existence of an unchanging essence. In contrast, Hinduism asserts the existence of Atman as pure consciousness or witness-consciousness, reifying consciousness as an eternal self.
[vii] This brings to mind the comedian who said his life was so boring that once when he almost died, someone else’s life passed before him.
[viii] In Orphism, a Greek mystical religious movement, it was believed that the newly dead who drank from the River Lethe would lose all memory of their past existence.
[ix] (Evans-Wentz)
[x] The body doesn’t immediately cease to exist after death, of course. But it’s inert matter and eventually dissolves back into the biosphere.
[xi] “Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. . . The fear of death arises from the belief that in death, there is awareness.”—Epicurus
[xii] The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself.—Carl Sagan, scientist and author
[xiii] (Borges, 1964)
[xiv] New Theology accepts the idea of annihilation. Therefore, even the atheist might embrace New Theology thought by regarding the ultimate ground of existence as a genuine, existent reality but deny it the dignity of being called “God.”
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After Life
One of the ego’s prime motivations is survival; one of its prime fears is death. If death is the end, then we simply cease to exist—an idea that horrifies some people.What happens to me after death? Do I survive in some form or another? We’ll explore the questions and speculate about some answers, without pretending to any special knowledge as to what actually occurs.
After Life: Heaven and Hell
One answer to the question of what happens after death is that my eternal soul survives. Some religions say the soul exists for all eternity, ultimately in either heaven or hell.[i] The soul is not God. It is separate and distinct from God. It is ontologically basic. God creates the soul but once created, it exists for all eternity.The idea of an eternal heaven and hell raises some problems.
The first problem is that heaven or hell seem inappropriate for the great majority of people, who live moderately good lives (but don’t dedicate themselves to helping the poor, or to ceaselessly praying to God) and moderately bad lives (sometimes dishonest or selfish or unkind).
The second problem concerns the nature of the self. Over a lifetime, a person will have many selves, e.g., the infant, the student; the employee; the spouse, the parent, the grandparent. Given that temporary selves come and go, we may ask: Which of our many temporary selves persist into the afterlife? Which selves go to heaven (or hell)?
Consider, for example, Saint Augustine, who was sexually active in his youth, fathering a son with a woman he never married. He famously prayed: “God, give me chastity and continency, only not yet.” Later, he repented and became a saint. Did Augustine’s erotic self go to heaven along with his saintly self?
Or consider Zoe, a sweet old woman who passed at 90. Imagine Zoe had a characteristic fault, say, envy. If Zoe goes to heaven, does her envious self go there, too?
Another problem: once in heaven can I change and grow? Can I gain and lose temporary selves? Suppose Ann, Zoe’s granddaughter, looks forward to meeting Zoe in heaven. Ann remembers Zoe as she was at 90. But suppose in heaven Zoe prefers her 19-year-old body to her 90-year-old body. And suppose Zoe’s envious self no longer exists. And suppose Zoe has satisfied a lifelong wish to understand Einstein’s general theory of relativity. Being in heaven, she can easily fulfill that wish. When Ann finally meets Zoe in heaven, does she meet the person she expected to meet? Or a disappointingly different person?
Further, in heaven, Zoe can learn anything she wishes and—within limits—become anything she wishes. Within limits. But eternity is a long, long, long time. After untold billions and trillions of years, do the limits chafe? Might Zoe eventually desire the ultimate: to become God? The legend of Satan’s rebellion in heaven seems to answer “Yes.” The story suggests eternal existence as a separate person may ultimately become unsatisfying. Perhaps only God can withstand eternity.
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. — Susan Ertz
Another observation is that heaven and hell make the universe (also called “creation”) pointless. The reasoning is as follows:
- Eventually, only heaven and hell will exist. Many Christians believe that will occur at the second coming of Jesus. A Catholic might say later, after all the souls in purgatory have paid their debt and migrated to heaven. But Christians agree that at some time in the future only heaven and hell will exist.
- Before creation, God knew exactly which people would end up in heaven and which people would end up in hell (assuming God can foresee the future).
- God could have created people destined for heaven IN HEAVEN, bypassing life on earth entirely. God could have created people destined for hell IN HELL, bypassing life on earth entirely.
- Conclusion: The entire drama of creation—the Fall, the passion of Jesus, etc., etc.—is entirely unnecessary. God could have skipped creation entirely. God could have created in heaven people who God knew would go there. God could have created in hell people who God knew would go there. (A kinder, gentler God would have simply not created people who would end up in hell.)
After Life: Reincarnation
Another answer to the question of what happens to me after death is that I eventually reincarnate. To be more precise, the permanent self and some traits and tendencies[iii] eventually reincarnate. This idea occurs in Hinduism where, in one version, the jivatma is the individual soul which reincarnates but “after a long process of development and experience again returns to the unity of the Ātmā,”[iv] i.e., the One. In this view, a permanent individual self is not eternal; it ultimately merges back with the One, from whence it came, as a river merges with the ocean.Buddhism also has the idea of reincarnation except in Buddhism no permanent self exists. Buddhism says that the permanent self is illusory. It says there is nothing underlying the temporary selves that come and go.[v] We are at any time merely a bundle of our current temporary selves. This idea occurs in Buddhism’s Anatta[vi] doctrine (non-self doctrine) which says I consist only of the “five aggregates”: perception, material form, feelings, mental activity, and consciousness. At death, the five aggregates cease to function or disperse (as the atoms of our body return to the biosphere) and I simply cease to exist.
Yet Buddhism accepts that reincarnation is possible. Reincarnation of what? A difficult question. One answer is that, as in Hinduism, some residue of our temporary selves somehow forms the personality of a newborn. Just as one candle lights another, passing on its flame, somehow our tendencies pass on to another being, a being which also lacks a permanent self.
After Life: Between Lives
Let’s suppose I and the body have parted, but I’m still am aware of thoughts and emotions. I as consciousness along with some emotional and mental tendencies somehow continue to exist. What would it be like? Like dreaming? Like being alone in a dark room?Like being trapped in some closed, confined space? No. If I’ve left the body, then I am spaceless. Without a body, what is there to be confined? Can a box confine thought? Can a box limit emotion? Can a box imprison consciousness? Evidently not. So, let’s imagine the emotion/thought/consciousness complex free floating, in some vast space, or a place where the word “space” has no meaning.
A fish freed from a bottle, swimming in a vast ocean, might look back at the bottle and notice how small and limiting the bottle was. We might reflect on what the body/emotion/mind complex usually contained: merely pleasant or unpleasant body sensations, happy or sad emotions, thoughts of various kinds. Nothing profound, usually. We might see memory, too, and all the past snapshots memory holds. And it all might seems so . . . small. Finite. Interesting in its own way. But does it all merit remembering? Or can much of it be forgotten?[vii] Most people are born with no memory of a past life. And for those that do claim memories of a past life, the memories are often of a traumatic incident such as being executed or dying in some accident. If we reincarnate, do we routinely forget most of our past life?[viii]
Let’s now imagine consciousness in the between-lives state. The Tibetan Book of the Dead[ix] describes what occurs, according to Tibetan belief. Briefly, the consciousness/tendencies complex begins a natural ascent to its source, its ultimate ground: the Real. On first encountering the Incomprehensible Boundless Light, some deceased persons merge, losing their separate identity and ending reincarnations. Other deceased persons retreat from the intensity of supreme naked reality, and descend to lower levels of existence. The text describes the deceased as experiencing “peaceful” and “wrathful” deities before finally incarnating in a physical body. We might imagine some deceased persons able to wander in the Mindscape, sampling thoughts and ideas as they please. We might imagine others wandering the Emotescape, sampling emotions of all kinds. Others descend to the physical plane, taking birth in another body, previous existence having been mostly forgotten, although there are stories of young children recalling scenes from an alleged previous life. Reincarnation has occurred.
The Tibetan Book of the Dead says the “peaceful” and “wrathful” deities are projections of one’s own mind. We might imagine experiencing peaceful deities as heaven and wrathful deities as hell. But why would our own mind create such experiences?
Imagine a loving person who spent their life helping others, trying to make the world a better place. A person who thought, mostly, kind, loving and noble thoughts. That person alone with his/her emotions and thoughts would be in a light, elevated place: a “heaven.”
On the other hand, imagine a person who spent a life filled with greed, hate, and anger alone with those emotions. He will have no one to hate but himself. No one to be the target of his anger but himself. The experience would be a dark, oppressive state: a “hell.”
Thus, there could be a type of judgment built into the universe, without the need of some God who is a person. A judgment based on the fact that it’s more comfortable to experience love rather than hate, more comfortable to experience peace rather than violence. There could be a temporary, non-eternal heaven and hell awaiting us in the between-lives state.
After Life: No Afterlife
Death is when the body ceases to function. Perhaps our emotional and mental activities also cease to exist. Perhaps, our consciousness ceases to function, too. Consciousness seems to disappear during deep sleep, so it’s easy to believe it ceases to exist after death.So, another answer is that at death my deep self and temporary selves simply cease to exist. One moment I’m consciousness—let’s say, right now. The next moment Arthur is nowhere to be found.[x] His permanent self, if he had one, has vanished. Death is the end, utter annihilation.
Let’s suppose for a moment that this is the case; that when I die, I utterly cease to exist. Many people would find the idea frightening, even horrifying. However, if I cease to exist, I won’t be there to know it. The thought is not so threatening when I realize that I can never experience the state of non-existing.[xi] After I realize that, ceasing to exist may seem less fearful, even inconsequential. For, if we rule out reincarnation, then before I existed, I couldn’t experience anything, including the state of non-existing.
“I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” — Mark Twain
Similarly, if I utterly cease to exist after death, I’ll never know it. I’ll never experience it. I can only experience the thought of non-existing. A thought may be sad or frightening, but it’s still only a thought. Thoughts come and go.
Sadness might be a more appropriate response. For if I cease to exist upon death, then all those who have died previously—family members, friends, acquaintances—have ceased to exist, too. If that were true, it would be natural to experience sadness.
Many people are deeply attached to the idea of an eternal soul, or to some sort of continued existence. The no-afterlife answer may appear threatening and frightening. It’s natural that an ego would regard non-existence as a horror.
A response is that being a soul—being an eternal individual, eternally separate from God—may not be so desirable, as we noted previously in the legend of Satan’s rebellion in heaven.
Also, we can contrast the idea of an eternal soul with another, possibly superior, concept. The idea of an eternal soul says we came into the universe. It suggests we are not a part of nature, but spiritual visitors in a material world. Thus, the only world we know is depreciated. Matter is dumb and “there must be something more.” And the environment suffers abuse.
A possibly superior concept is that we didn’t come coming into the universe; we came out of it.[xii] Our relation to the universe is like that of the apple to the apple tree. That I (or, at least, my body) came out of the universe is why the common elements of the universe (with one exception) are the common elements of my body. The most abundant elements in the universe are hydrogen, helium, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen, in descending order. Helium is a noble gas that doesn’t combine with other elements to form molecules. If we discard helium, we find that the most abundant elements in the human body are hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, in descending order.
The universe has become me (and everything else). And we know matter is hardly dumb. Rather, it contains complexity beyond imagination. In trying to understand matter, we are forced to ideas like string theory and quantum field theory, complex theories that may not be complex enough to capture all that matter can do.
If we call matter “dumb” we insult ourselves, because matter is what we are. If we understood ourselves correctly—as temporary manifestations of something vast and ancient beyond comprehension—that would be enough.
So, suppose death is the utter end to Arthur. So what? Why should I care if my finite self persists beyond the life of the body? Most of the time, my finite self focuses on corresponding finite concerns - how to be comfortable; how to gain wealth, power and fame—or focuses on entertainment that puts the mind in a passive state, so that I can hardly remember an advertisement I saw just a few minutes ago. Of course, our lives are also filled with noble moments, too. Moments of love, of empathy, of elevated thoughts. But these moments pale measured against our infinite self, our vast and ancient larger self, the universe itself.
Perhaps, eternal existence as a limited, finite self is not as desirable as it seems. In any case, it can be argued that non-existence is nothing to fear.
Self-Transcendence
Suppose I am entirely physical. Suppose I am matter and only matter, matter that somehow is conscious and intelligent. Suppose my destiny as an individual is annihilation. When I die, I utterly cease to exist. The biosphere absorbs my body’s atoms. My emotions, mind, and consciousness simply cease to be. This idea may seem unwelcome, threatening, and frightening. But considered deeply, it can lead to self-transcendence. And self-transcendence can be viewed as a type of salvation, salvation from fear of death.As we’ve seen, if I’m merely matter, matter which lacks a soul, then it’s plain that I didn’t come into the universe; I came out of it. My body emerged from the universe. I emerged from the universe. I am not separate from the universe but a part of it. The universe gave me birth. It is my parent. Something which is ancient and vast beyond imagination has given me birth. I am a person on a planet with billions of other people, a planet that is a microscopic speck of dust in an almost infinite universe.
I am a small speck. Yet, I can contemplate the vast and ancient universe. I feel my small presence in the infinite universe and the feeling is an odd mixture: one part realizing my own smallness and insignificance; one part feeling a part of a vast, magnificent universe, no matter if only an infinitesimally small part. The universe has created me. I am not the universe but the universe is me, just as the wave is not the ocean but the ocean is the wave. Something ancient and vast has become me.
The God’s Script[xiii] by Jorge Luis Borges tells the story of Tzinacán, an Aztec priest imprisoned and tortured by the Spaniards. After decades in prison, Tzinacán has a vision; he believes certain words of power will destroy his stone prison, evict the Spaniards, reconstruct his nation, and make him immortal. But he knows he never shall utter the words, because “Whoever has seen the universe, whoever has beheld the fiery designs of the universe, cannot think in terms of one man, or that man’s trivial fortunes or misfortunes, though he be that very man.”
Tzinacán has achieved salvation, salvation from ego concerns, a type of salvation unlike the ego salvation of Old Theology religions.
We live in an unimaginably vast and ancient universe. Yet, our concerns often revolve about ourselves. Ego issues dominate: “I want to go to heaven. I want to be reincarnated. I. Me. I.” Ego concerns are understandable; they help us survive. But the person who can self-transcend, who can rise above ego; the person who can say to the Real, “You exist. And that’s enough for me. What does it matter if this finite, flawed human being lives for eternity, or is snuffed out like a candle?”—that person has a faith and a love for God far above those who practice religion out of fear of hell, hope of heaven, or of a better reincarnation.
A person who achieves that perspective while still in the body has achieved some degree of self-transcendence. That person finds their “I” in the Real rather than in the ego and its transitory selves. Mystic slogans such as “Die before you die” and “The art of dying” take on a real, literal meaning. Self-transcendence utterly defeats death. For if I die to my transitory selves before the death of my body, then there is nothing that death can take.
After Life: Recap
To sum up, an axiom of New Theology’s monism is that only the All and the One, the Ultimate Ground of Existence, is ontologically basic. The individual is not ontologically basic. This implies that the human individual is like a figure on a movie screen and would cease to exist but for the action of the light; that the individual is the wave, not the ocean. This view admits two possibilities. First, that upon death the individual simply dissolves, ceases to be. This is often the view of the atheist.[xiv] The second is that upon death the individual continues to exist in one form or another, perhaps in heaven or hell, perhaps reincarnating eventually.Although our fate immediately after death is unknown, in a monist system the ultimate fate of the individual can be nothing other than merging with the ultimate ground of all.
You are not the body. You are not the mind.
You are something different, lying far behind.
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[i] The after-death destination of Limbo once existed in the Roman Catholic Church but has recently fallen out of favor.
[ii] Existence in heaven raises other questions about selfhood. Consider the idea of an assembly of selves. Suppose Joe at six years old was happy and optimistic; a more mature person when he received his first romantic kiss; at twenty, a personal tragedy turned him pessimistic and dour; at forty, Joe was a sober, responsible family man; at death, a calm, retired introvert. Is Joe in heaven somehow a composite of all these selves? If Joe goes to hell, do all the selves suffer, even the happy, optimistic six-year older?
[iii] Inherited tendencies imply very young children already possess a personality. Inherited abilities would explain prodigies such as Mozart, a prepubescent chess master, etc.
[iv] Refer https://www.chakras.net/yoga-principles/jivatma-atma-paramatma
[v] The philosopher David Hume also believed that there is no self.
[vi] (Annata, n.d.) “In Buddhism, the term anattā (Pali) or anātman (Sanskrit) refers to the doctrine of "non-self" – that no unchanging, permanent self or essence can be found in any phenomenon While often interpreted as a doctrine denying the existence of a self, anatman is more accurately described as a strategy to attain non-attachment by recognizing anything as impermanent, while staying silent on the ultimate existence of an unchanging essence. In contrast, Hinduism asserts the existence of Atman as pure consciousness or witness-consciousness, reifying consciousness as an eternal self.
[vii] This brings to mind the comedian who said his life was so boring that once when he almost died, someone else’s life passed before him.
[viii] In Orphism, a Greek mystical religious movement, it was believed that the newly dead who drank from the River Lethe would lose all memory of their past existence.
[ix] (Evans-Wentz)
[x] The body doesn’t immediately cease to exist after death, of course. But it’s inert matter and eventually dissolves back into the biosphere.
[xi] “Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. . . The fear of death arises from the belief that in death, there is awareness.”—Epicurus
[xii] The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself.—Carl Sagan, scientist and author
[xiii] (Borges, 1964)
[xiv] New Theology accepts the idea of annihilation. Therefore, even the atheist might embrace New Theology thought by regarding the ultimate ground of existence as a genuine, existent reality but deny it the dignity of being called “God.”
2023.11.08 14:17 kittehgoesmeow What A Day: All In Due Crime by Julia Claire & Crooked Media (11/07/23)
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Arturo Béjar, a former engineering director at Facebook and Instagram parent company Meta, testified before Congress on Tuesday that the company did nothing to address concerns that its platforms were unsafe for children and teenagers. Béjar cited his own experience of witnessing his daughter endure sexual harassment on Instagram in his testimony.
The Centers for Disease Control reported on Tuesday that the number of newborns with syphilis in the United States surged more than tenfold in the past decade to the highest rate in over 30 years. Nine out of 10 cases may have been prevented with well-timed testing and treatment during gestation. Syphilis is an STI that can lead to stillbirth, miscarriage, infant death, and maternal and infant morbidity.
A new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics shows that guns surpassed motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of death for children aged one and older in the United States in 2020. Gun deaths among children hit a new record high in 2021.
Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa resigned on Tuesday over alleged corruption in his administration’s handling of national lithium mining and hydrogen projects. Costa said his conscience was “clear” but he would not run for his position again.
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Tuesday marked one month since the deadly Hamas attack that killed 1,400 Israeli civilians and launched the deadliest fighting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has seen in decades.- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Monday in an interview with ABC News that Israel would be responsible for overall security in Gaza for an “indefinite period” when the fighting stops. While he did clarify what he meant, this has raised concerns that he intends to reimpose the Israeli occupation of the enclave. Israel has not directly occupied Gaza since withdrawing from the territory in 2005, though it imposed a crippling blockade of the territory soon after. The White House and many of Israel’s other Western allies have repeatedly warned against a reoccupation of Gaza. Netanyahu’s statement contradicts one made by Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant just one week earlier that “removal of Israel’s responsibility for life in the Gaza Strip” was a central goal of the ongoing military campaign.
- The Israeli government announced Tuesday that its ground forces were fighting Hamas “in the depths of” Gaza City, signaling a new phase in the conflict that is expected to bring even more civilian deaths. One month of steady Israeli airstrikes has killed more than 10,300 Palestinians, according to the Gaza Health Ministry. Of Gaza’s 2.3 million population, around 70 percent have fled their homes. Many are crowded into United Nations shelters. Israeli airstrikes have leveled entire city blocks in Gaza, destroying schools, mosques, homes, hospitals, and other nonmilitary targets. The International Committee of the Red Cross said on Tuesday that a humanitarian convoy attempting to deliver medical supplies came under fire in Gaza city, damaging the trucks and lightly wounding the driver. The aid group did not specify who was responsible for the shooting.
- Israel’s response to the October 7 attack has been deeply divisive among Jewish Israelis, who have in recent years polarized over matters relating to security and the Palestinians. Though support for the Israeli military remains high and many Israelis have rallied in support of the war, polls also show widespread dissatisfaction with Netanyahu’s leadership. While their reasons vary, with some calling for even harsher military action, others have accused Netanyahu of abandoning the estimated 240 hostages still held by Hamas. On Saturday, thousands amassed in Tel Aviv, some holding photographs of hostages, others carrying posters with slogans like “Release the hostages now at all costs” and “Bring them home now.” Israel’s far-right coalition government was unpopular before the conflict broke out, and had been the subject of nationwide protests this summer over a slate of aggressive reforms to the justice system that many democracy watchdogs called an attempted judicial coup. A poll released Saturday by Israel’s Channel 13 Television found that 76 percent of Israelis believe Netanyahu should resign. He has served a record six terms as Prime Minister.
- Biden administration officials say that Israel’s counteroffensive against Hamas has cost far too many civilian casualties and have privately expressed frustration at what they consider Israel’s absence of a coherent strategy or endgame. But several U.S. efforts to get the Netanyahu government to scale back its attacks have been rebuffed outright. Senior White House officials privately urged Israel not to pursue a ground invasion, that its strikes on Gaza adhere to norms of proportionality, which is required under international law, and that it place a higher premium on reducing civilian casualties. They also advocated for a humanitarian pause to facilitate hostage negotiations with Hamas and allow for aid to be distributed in Gaza. Israeli officials rejected all of those proposals. The Netanyahu government has also invoked the staggering civilian death tolls of U.S. military campaigns in Fallujah, Mosul, Hiroshima, and others, in an attempt to help justify the now more than 10,000 Palestinian casualties.
- The White House has sought to assuage the leaders of allied Arab countries with public and private assurances that the United States shares their concern for civilian life in Gaza. Some Arab leaders, though, have privately objected that American support for Israel appears to remain unwavering regardless of Israeli actions. Senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) had this to say: “It’s important for the administration to be loud in their concern for the humanitarian toll…if we all want to prevent another front from opening up and we want the Gulf states to be part of the reconstruction of Gaza, then we need to make as clear as possible that the United States is prioritizing reduction in civilian harm.” Murphy recently issued a public statement calling the volume of civilian deaths “unacceptable” and urging Israel to change course.
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Last year, a sweeping Supreme Court ruling greatly hindered states’ abilities to restrict gun ownership and efforts to arm oneself in public. As of Tuesday, the Court seems prepared to walk back at least a small part of that decision. Even the most conservative justices seemed ready to accept that a judge’s ruling of dangerousness in domestic violence proceedings are sufficient grounds to ban gun possession. The current case before the court, United States vs. Rahimi, centers on a Texas man named Zackey Rahimi, who assaulted his girlfriend in 2019, and threatened to shoot her if she told anyone, which led her to obtain a restraining order. The order suspended Rahimi’s gun license and prohibited him from possessing a firearm, but he defied the ban. He threatened another woman and opened fire in public five times in two months. That was enough for even the state of Texas to want to repossess Rahimi’s guns. But an appellate court judge in New Orleans vacated Rahimi’s conviction, because the judge thought it violated the Second Amendment. The case was appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, and now we find ourselves once again begging the nine most powerful people in the country to uphold common-sense gun laws.What Else?
A Colorado jury acquitted Denver-area police officer Nathan Woodyard of manslaughter on Monday for the 2021 killing of a 23-year-old Black man named Elijah McClain. Woodyard put the young man in a neck hold before McClain was injected with a powerful sedative by paramedics and died.Arturo Béjar, a former engineering director at Facebook and Instagram parent company Meta, testified before Congress on Tuesday that the company did nothing to address concerns that its platforms were unsafe for children and teenagers. Béjar cited his own experience of witnessing his daughter endure sexual harassment on Instagram in his testimony.
The Centers for Disease Control reported on Tuesday that the number of newborns with syphilis in the United States surged more than tenfold in the past decade to the highest rate in over 30 years. Nine out of 10 cases may have been prevented with well-timed testing and treatment during gestation. Syphilis is an STI that can lead to stillbirth, miscarriage, infant death, and maternal and infant morbidity.
A new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics shows that guns surpassed motor vehicle accidents as the leading cause of death for children aged one and older in the United States in 2020. Gun deaths among children hit a new record high in 2021.
Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa resigned on Tuesday over alleged corruption in his administration’s handling of national lithium mining and hydrogen projects. Costa said his conscience was “clear” but he would not run for his position again.
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A new Siena poll says Biden’s edge with Black voters, especially young voters, has faded over the course of his administration. Disgraced former president Donald Trump took 8 percent of the Black vote in 2020; now 22 percent of Black voters say they would support him, though many say they are open to returning to Biden. Pollsters tell the New York Times that they’re less worried about Trump successfully competing for a crucial share of the Black vote, which remains the bedrock of the Democratic Party’s electoral strategy, and more about disillusionment among Biden’s Black supporters, who might stay away from polls altogether. Progressive organizers told the Times that Black voters had expressed disappointment with high prices and, in particular, housing instability, a trend that has been seemingly impervious to otherwise favorable economic indicators. Student debt, too, remains a worry: Repayments have finally restarted, making one of Biden’s signature accomplishments moot for a broad swath of borrowers. Biden needs his base; he’s not making inroads with other groups, so the coalition that took him to the White House in 2020 is still his best bet. In the coming year, Biden’s team and Democratic strategists know they have their work cut out for them.What A Sponsor
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Ohio voters passed state ballot Amendment 1, which will enshrine reproductive rights including abortion access into their state Constitution. More on this tomorrow, but wow! Hell yeah! OH-IO!Ohio also legalized recreational marijuana usage. Okay!!!
Gov. Andy Beshear (D-KY) won reelection in the Bluegrass State. Phew!
The Federal Trade Commission announced on Tuesday that it had sent letters to major medical device companies and drugmakers disputing the accuracy or relevance of 110 patents that may be hampering generic competition and thus lower prices for consumers.
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2023.10.07 07:15 wsppan Today In Phishstory - October 7th
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Phish, 2023-10-07 Bridgestone Arena, Nashville, TN, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/phish-october-07-2023-bridgestone-arena-nashville-tn-usa.html
Tour: 2023 Fall Tour
Show Notes:
Phish, Saturday 10/07/2000 (23 years ago) Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
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Phish, Thursday 10/07/1999 (24 years ago) Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
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Phish, Saturday 10/07/1995 (28 years ago) Spokane Opera House, Spokane, WA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
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Phish, Friday 10/07/1994 (29 years ago) Stabler Arena, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
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Phish, Sunday 10/07/1990 (33 years ago) Club Bene, Sayreville, NJ, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
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Phish, Saturday 10/07/1989 (34 years ago) Chase Hall, Bates College, Lewiston, ME, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
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Trey Anastasio Band, 2022-10-07 The Arlington Theatre, Santa Barbara, CA, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-band-october-07-2022-the-arlington-theatre-santa-barbara-ca-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes:
Trey Anastasio Band, 2011-10-07 House of Blues, Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Trey Anastasio Band, 2005-10-07 Thomas Wolfe Auditorium, Asheville, NC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon, 2003-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
Jazz Mandolin Project, 2001-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Everyone Orchestra, 2006-10-07 State Theatre, Falls Church, VA, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
The Word of Mouth Experience, 2003-10-07 The Players Club, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
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Phish
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/phish-october-07-2023-bridgestone-arena-nashville-tn-usa.html
Tour: 2023 Fall Tour
Show Notes:
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
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Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
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Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
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Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
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Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
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Trey Anastasio
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-band-october-07-2022-the-arlington-theatre-santa-barbara-ca-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes:
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
John Fishman
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Other
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
2023.04.14 18:51 TrippyHippyCafe Do you agree or disagree with this?
Am I right or wrong? I'm british so have written it with my country's currency but the same will happen across the world as each cbdc is introduced. FEDNOW has already started in america.
When Klaus schwab the creator of the World Economic Forum said in his book the Great Reset "you will own nothing and you will he happy".
You might be thinking well how is that possible?
Your mortgage contracts with the bank have clauses that state if the currency changes they are voided. Example.... Imagine you trade 6 eggs for 1 steak. If you then had to trade 6 chickens for 1 steak that wouldn't be fair on one party of the trade and so the trade would need to be renegotiated.
That is the currency change analogy for how they will renegotiate all of the private property ownership contracts.
The same way if you don't pay your morgage it is voided. Well your current mortgage agreement will also be voided because you wont be able to physically pay it in pound sterling when it is hyper inflated. It will happen quick aswell to reduce the fight back. Most likely on a Friday and by Monday you will own nothing.
There will be some catchy propaganda slogans repeated over and over again. Maybe the finance friday or wealth weekend or some catchy name they can plaster on the news all weekend and they will smash you with propaganda to make you scared at first thinking you will be homeless and society is about to collapse but then the government with their new bail out crypto will be heralded as the savours. This will make you think they had to do it for our safety. Maybe china will be blamed who knows but they will make you think that they had to do it but in actual fact it was just a tool to make you conform to the new world financial order.
The cbdc will be used at first along side normal fiat cash so people know about it and it becomes a mainstream accepted and so people feel comfortable and mock the conspiracy theorist because it will be no different then tapping your contact less card as normal. It will be a talking point and slowly slowly fiat hyper inflation will increase helped by central banks money printing. Then when the orchestrated crash happens that's when the big switch will happen to solely cbdc because the normal pound sterling will be worthless. £1000 for a loaf of bread or £1 e- pound for a loaf of bread. What one you picking?
Now here is the clever part. Ofcourse they won't take everyones houses away from them or else everyone would go and burn the Bank of England down or federal reserve and start beheading the politicians.
What they will do is the same way they gentrified poor areas. They will renegotiate your mortgage contract either too high so you cant afford it and have to break the contract and give it back to the bank but they will give you a silver lining so you feel like you can have your cake AND eat it.
They will take your house but "compensate" you what you have already paid in the new central bank digital currency e-pound and allow you to rent it back off the bank/ state in the new e-pound so you dont become homeless and have a nice big chunk of the digital cash to spend and you still get to keep living in your home paying the same morgage rate but in a RENT form from the bank. The bank will basically be your landlord appointed by the state. Everything will feel the same and you will be happy that the finacial worry and uncertainty is over. After the turmoil you will still have your house and maybe your mortgages payment that are now rent payments are even cheaper. There will never be a time in the future that you don't pay to keep a roof over your head and slowly as the years go by the rent price will be increased and increased not because of inflation but because of carbon taxes.
All mortgaged assets will become state properties that are administrated by the current financial institutes effectively turning the personal ownership into a state ownership that lends the property to you.
Same with cars and household electrical products and even loans.
Cars that are not electric or hydrogen will be made illegal and when you dont pay your rent on them they will drive away from your house. Smart household items will stop working until you pay the rent on it. Cookers, fridges, washing machines etc Money will automatically be taken from your account without you consent and if you don't have the money you will recieve a mark on your credit rating and if you get enough negative mark on it then it will stop you from accessing certain services.
Huge loans will be given to people when the introduction happens. At first people will take the loans and put it into fiat currency because they wont trust the cbdc but their greed will take over and this will further crash the fiat currency with the additional influx of currency the same that over printing of money already does eventually leaving only the cbdc as the un hyper inflated option. Bad credit rating no problem. Heres a loan. No job. No worries heres a loan. They want the people with bad credit to default on the digital currency loans because then they can just like in China take away your civil liberty's and rights of public amenities slowly strangling you from society. House, car, public transport, doctors, hospital, outside country travel, child birth, etc will all be the luxurys of the ones who follow the rules and pay on time aka the rich.
THAT IS THE FUTURE WE ARE HEADING TOO!!
As pessimistic as its sounds there is no way to stop it. This is a lithium fire and no matter if you use cash or burn down the streets like France is doing nothing is going to stop this from happening. No protests. No using cash over card. NOTHING WILL STOP THE CHANGE OVER!!!
I see only one way to stop it effecting you and only one way..... live your life as self sustainable as possible. Live a life that doesn't need money and live that life with a group of people. Strength in numbers and strength in sustainability.
That's the only way I see us fighting it until the next fight of land seizures for climate change and carbon credit agenda but land seizures I don't see happening for another 15 to 20 years or sooner if a literal overt world war 3 happens. Not this covert ww3 we currently have with nato and brics.
Do you agree or disagree?
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When Klaus schwab the creator of the World Economic Forum said in his book the Great Reset "you will own nothing and you will he happy".
You might be thinking well how is that possible?
Your mortgage contracts with the bank have clauses that state if the currency changes they are voided. Example.... Imagine you trade 6 eggs for 1 steak. If you then had to trade 6 chickens for 1 steak that wouldn't be fair on one party of the trade and so the trade would need to be renegotiated.
That is the currency change analogy for how they will renegotiate all of the private property ownership contracts.
The same way if you don't pay your morgage it is voided. Well your current mortgage agreement will also be voided because you wont be able to physically pay it in pound sterling when it is hyper inflated. It will happen quick aswell to reduce the fight back. Most likely on a Friday and by Monday you will own nothing.
There will be some catchy propaganda slogans repeated over and over again. Maybe the finance friday or wealth weekend or some catchy name they can plaster on the news all weekend and they will smash you with propaganda to make you scared at first thinking you will be homeless and society is about to collapse but then the government with their new bail out crypto will be heralded as the savours. This will make you think they had to do it for our safety. Maybe china will be blamed who knows but they will make you think that they had to do it but in actual fact it was just a tool to make you conform to the new world financial order.
The cbdc will be used at first along side normal fiat cash so people know about it and it becomes a mainstream accepted and so people feel comfortable and mock the conspiracy theorist because it will be no different then tapping your contact less card as normal. It will be a talking point and slowly slowly fiat hyper inflation will increase helped by central banks money printing. Then when the orchestrated crash happens that's when the big switch will happen to solely cbdc because the normal pound sterling will be worthless. £1000 for a loaf of bread or £1 e- pound for a loaf of bread. What one you picking?
Now here is the clever part. Ofcourse they won't take everyones houses away from them or else everyone would go and burn the Bank of England down or federal reserve and start beheading the politicians.
What they will do is the same way they gentrified poor areas. They will renegotiate your mortgage contract either too high so you cant afford it and have to break the contract and give it back to the bank but they will give you a silver lining so you feel like you can have your cake AND eat it.
They will take your house but "compensate" you what you have already paid in the new central bank digital currency e-pound and allow you to rent it back off the bank/ state in the new e-pound so you dont become homeless and have a nice big chunk of the digital cash to spend and you still get to keep living in your home paying the same morgage rate but in a RENT form from the bank. The bank will basically be your landlord appointed by the state. Everything will feel the same and you will be happy that the finacial worry and uncertainty is over. After the turmoil you will still have your house and maybe your mortgages payment that are now rent payments are even cheaper. There will never be a time in the future that you don't pay to keep a roof over your head and slowly as the years go by the rent price will be increased and increased not because of inflation but because of carbon taxes.
All mortgaged assets will become state properties that are administrated by the current financial institutes effectively turning the personal ownership into a state ownership that lends the property to you.
Same with cars and household electrical products and even loans.
Cars that are not electric or hydrogen will be made illegal and when you dont pay your rent on them they will drive away from your house. Smart household items will stop working until you pay the rent on it. Cookers, fridges, washing machines etc Money will automatically be taken from your account without you consent and if you don't have the money you will recieve a mark on your credit rating and if you get enough negative mark on it then it will stop you from accessing certain services.
Huge loans will be given to people when the introduction happens. At first people will take the loans and put it into fiat currency because they wont trust the cbdc but their greed will take over and this will further crash the fiat currency with the additional influx of currency the same that over printing of money already does eventually leaving only the cbdc as the un hyper inflated option. Bad credit rating no problem. Heres a loan. No job. No worries heres a loan. They want the people with bad credit to default on the digital currency loans because then they can just like in China take away your civil liberty's and rights of public amenities slowly strangling you from society. House, car, public transport, doctors, hospital, outside country travel, child birth, etc will all be the luxurys of the ones who follow the rules and pay on time aka the rich.
THAT IS THE FUTURE WE ARE HEADING TOO!!
As pessimistic as its sounds there is no way to stop it. This is a lithium fire and no matter if you use cash or burn down the streets like France is doing nothing is going to stop this from happening. No protests. No using cash over card. NOTHING WILL STOP THE CHANGE OVER!!!
I see only one way to stop it effecting you and only one way..... live your life as self sustainable as possible. Live a life that doesn't need money and live that life with a group of people. Strength in numbers and strength in sustainability.
That's the only way I see us fighting it until the next fight of land seizures for climate change and carbon credit agenda but land seizures I don't see happening for another 15 to 20 years or sooner if a literal overt world war 3 happens. Not this covert ww3 we currently have with nato and brics.
Do you agree or disagree?
2023.03.23 18:34 W0lfpack89 Thorough advice and questions answered for growers.
Hello all.
I was inspired to make this post as I see a lot of people asking the same or similar questions. I have a post in the top 10 of all time on this sub (Thanks for that microgreens community btw) and I've been growing as a business for almost 5 years now, so I get people reaching out to me several times a year to ask questions or pick my brain about things. I love when you do, so please keep reaching out. I'd love to talk with you and help you grow better. That being said, between common issues I see in the posts, and the questions I get from being contacted, I thought I'd compile a list of the biggest things to consider and know when growing microgreens. So let's begin.
- Now to the question at hand, I typically seed my plants every Wednesday afternoon and by Saturday morning if they aren't coming out of blackout I have a problem. This isn't universal though, and every plant is different. Don't adhere to a schedule but respond to how the plants LOOK. This schedule works well for the most popular Micros, but more artisan style micros (I'm lookin you Basil, cilantro, shiso, beets, etc.) may need longer blackout/stacking periods.
Q. What licenses do I need to start my business?
A. So there's the right answer and then there's the function answer. The functional answer is that no one is gonna come after you for growing a few trays and selling them to your neighbors. Probably. That being said (and nothing in this post is to be taken as legal advice, I am not a lawyer) every state, city, county, and/or country is going to have different rules. In California I had to get certified by the local ag department, have a sign behind my booth that listed my address, phone number, and the slogan "We grow what we sell", and anything sold had to have that somewhere on the packaging as well. Now that I'm in Idaho, there are literally no rules on the ag side. That being said I have to collect sales tax here where I didn't in California (no tax on self grown ag items, kinda nice) so that adds a level of complexity. But be careful, because then I tried growing wheat grass and sell wheat grass shots as a natural side growth and because it was now considered processed I had to have a full 3 bay sink in my booth per health department. So just call someone and ask before you get yourself in trouble.
Q. Can you actually make money doing microgreens full time?
A. Probably not. I don't say that to discourage you but think about it. There are already years of momentum behind some growers. Customer bases are already established and have people they like to go to. This isn't to say don't try, it's to say that it's not as easy as grow a tray and build a website. It's work. It takes time. Once your systems are dialed in it gets easier, and once you're confident in your customer base you'll flow into it, but that can take years. I can do about $1,000-$1,500 a week in microgreens at my farmers market with about 150 other vendors and ZERO other micros growers. I'm lucky though, and you may not be given your area and saturation. So can you make money? Yes are you likely to make money? Not unless you're willing to grind it out and put in the WORK.
Q. What's a good price point for X, Y, Z micro?
A. There is no way to answer that for you. You have to do the math, figure out the market in your area, not to mention determining what your costs are and how much your time is worth. You can do the market research by calling micros growers and asking for a price sheet, browse their websites, call chefs and flat out ask what they're paying for a given microgreen. Visit farmers markets and see what they're charging for them etc. Generally speaking though $5/8oz volume is a decent starting point. Go up or down by a bit based on your market and have bulk incentives (Mine is 1 for $5 3 for $12). For your input costs figure out how much seed you use per tray, then how much that much seed would cost, figure out how much substrate you use, and then what your time is worth. If you want to get REAL nitty gritty calculate electric and water too. I don't though.
Q. What microgreens should I grow to make money?
A. As per the question before this, it depends on what your chefs and customers want. I've had chefs that ONLY want Radish. I've had others that ONLY want Amaranth. Some want a salad mix, some want a little of everything. Some want something that I don't even grow so now I have to figure out if I can even grow it in my system. That being said: there are a few microgreens that I've found to be fairly standard. Those are: PEA SUNFLOWER SALAD MIX. What salad mix? Doesn't seem to matter. Make some kind of salad mix with somethin and it usually does well, just be prepared to sell it at volume for cheap. But it's my single best selling item
Phew, that was longer than I thought it would be.
I sincerely hope you found this helpful and know that I thoroughly enjoyed writing it. Let me know if I missed anything and I'll add it in as I find time. See you in the comments.
Way to grow everyone.
-Josh
edit: added some info to business questions
edit 2: added some more substrates people use
submitted by W0lfpack89 to microgreens [link] [comments]
I was inspired to make this post as I see a lot of people asking the same or similar questions. I have a post in the top 10 of all time on this sub (Thanks for that microgreens community btw) and I've been growing as a business for almost 5 years now, so I get people reaching out to me several times a year to ask questions or pick my brain about things. I love when you do, so please keep reaching out. I'd love to talk with you and help you grow better. That being said, between common issues I see in the posts, and the questions I get from being contacted, I thought I'd compile a list of the biggest things to consider and know when growing microgreens. So let's begin.
- Mold or root hairs?
- What substrate to use?
- How long should by plants be in blackout?
- Now to the question at hand, I typically seed my plants every Wednesday afternoon and by Saturday morning if they aren't coming out of blackout I have a problem. This isn't universal though, and every plant is different. Don't adhere to a schedule but respond to how the plants LOOK. This schedule works well for the most popular Micros, but more artisan style micros (I'm lookin you Basil, cilantro, shiso, beets, etc.) may need longer blackout/stacking periods.
- How much X to use to help with mold?
- How often to water?
- How much light should I give them? What kind of lights?
- What kinds of fans should I use?
- What to do with my leftover trays?
- How do I clean my trays in between uses?
- Business questions.
Q. What licenses do I need to start my business?
A. So there's the right answer and then there's the function answer. The functional answer is that no one is gonna come after you for growing a few trays and selling them to your neighbors. Probably. That being said (and nothing in this post is to be taken as legal advice, I am not a lawyer) every state, city, county, and/or country is going to have different rules. In California I had to get certified by the local ag department, have a sign behind my booth that listed my address, phone number, and the slogan "We grow what we sell", and anything sold had to have that somewhere on the packaging as well. Now that I'm in Idaho, there are literally no rules on the ag side. That being said I have to collect sales tax here where I didn't in California (no tax on self grown ag items, kinda nice) so that adds a level of complexity. But be careful, because then I tried growing wheat grass and sell wheat grass shots as a natural side growth and because it was now considered processed I had to have a full 3 bay sink in my booth per health department. So just call someone and ask before you get yourself in trouble.
Q. Can you actually make money doing microgreens full time?
A. Probably not. I don't say that to discourage you but think about it. There are already years of momentum behind some growers. Customer bases are already established and have people they like to go to. This isn't to say don't try, it's to say that it's not as easy as grow a tray and build a website. It's work. It takes time. Once your systems are dialed in it gets easier, and once you're confident in your customer base you'll flow into it, but that can take years. I can do about $1,000-$1,500 a week in microgreens at my farmers market with about 150 other vendors and ZERO other micros growers. I'm lucky though, and you may not be given your area and saturation. So can you make money? Yes are you likely to make money? Not unless you're willing to grind it out and put in the WORK.
Q. What's a good price point for X, Y, Z micro?
A. There is no way to answer that for you. You have to do the math, figure out the market in your area, not to mention determining what your costs are and how much your time is worth. You can do the market research by calling micros growers and asking for a price sheet, browse their websites, call chefs and flat out ask what they're paying for a given microgreen. Visit farmers markets and see what they're charging for them etc. Generally speaking though $5/8oz volume is a decent starting point. Go up or down by a bit based on your market and have bulk incentives (Mine is 1 for $5 3 for $12). For your input costs figure out how much seed you use per tray, then how much that much seed would cost, figure out how much substrate you use, and then what your time is worth. If you want to get REAL nitty gritty calculate electric and water too. I don't though.
Q. What microgreens should I grow to make money?
A. As per the question before this, it depends on what your chefs and customers want. I've had chefs that ONLY want Radish. I've had others that ONLY want Amaranth. Some want a salad mix, some want a little of everything. Some want something that I don't even grow so now I have to figure out if I can even grow it in my system. That being said: there are a few microgreens that I've found to be fairly standard. Those are: PEA SUNFLOWER SALAD MIX. What salad mix? Doesn't seem to matter. Make some kind of salad mix with somethin and it usually does well, just be prepared to sell it at volume for cheap. But it's my single best selling item
OTHER TIPS AND TRICKS
- Grow pea away from direct light, it'll get stretchier, and be less chewy
- I water based on the weight of my trays. The lighter they are, the more water they need, and I check them 2-3 times a day at minimum.
- Chefs don't usually want tall leggy microgreens, so be prepared to cut only that top inch and a half of stem for the smaller plants (Don't count pea/sunflower in this)
- Always test a new micro before offering it to a chef, if you say you CAN grow it and then turns out you can't, you've lost their trust for 2-3 months usually.
- If you get into restaurants, make sure to deliver on the same day, around the same time, every week
- This is probably my biggest piece of advice. DON'T SOLVE A PROBLEM YOU DON'T HAVE
Phew, that was longer than I thought it would be.
I sincerely hope you found this helpful and know that I thoroughly enjoyed writing it. Let me know if I missed anything and I'll add it in as I find time. See you in the comments.
Way to grow everyone.
-Josh
edit: added some info to business questions
edit 2: added some more substrates people use
2022.11.20 05:05 ScottLeeTygett Tesla Energy
When George Walker Bush responded to the 911 attacks, he encapsulated the idea in one word -- Musk. Actually, the word was a substance that exists as a non-fusing relatively cool plasma element composing two-thirds of the Sun, at a density of supposedly only about 1gm/cm3. The corona beyond the photosphere surface reaching temperatures above 3,000,000 K, while the surface and upper interior at merely 6,000 K would have to be described as cool. This substance is chemically very interesting. A neutron will spontaneously transform to hydrogen if not squeezed in some chemical mixture or whatever to delay that event. Boron or cadmium might help, for instance. Promethium is another substance typically kept preserved by such means, where its short half-life is offset by soothing music, vitamin E and avoiding corn syrup, and possibly something else like iodine or "anti-Higgs" nucleon resonance?
Does Tesla build a nuclear power plant in the near future? Hundreds are under construction, so it would hardly be a vanguard effort.
But how many hydrogen plants exist?
When Toyota hydrogen refueling stations appeared, video displays near the pumps described enough details to pique interest online. Steam, carbothermic reduction, a catalyst...
Soon, perhaps methane lines will all become gas mixtures, filtered at the house connector?
No delivery issues. Sort of obvious. (Leakage sounds like one of those things that budding inventors hurl themselves at ad infinitum.)
And the matter of asking "Why haven't we been chemically extracting hydrogen from water by goofy chemical methods that work, though we do not understand them?" can be resolved by continuing to let them go ununderstood. Yes?
One layer of thinking that might give rise to a beeline to truth might be to recall that some highly energetic compounds did not get synthesized with a huge carbon footprint. Not charcoal, not relying on component other footprint-hogs like metallic aluminum, just energetic by nature. Chlorates, nitriles, etc. Not as convenient as oil from the tar pit or coal from the bog, but like lithium, pretty reuseable, short of swearing soulless matter is a real thing. Can a cutting from a tree be reused? How many times? Can hydrogen be tricked into thinking it is a neutron again? What if a pseudohalogen with a reputation as a reducer comes into contact?
So, if water will "fuel cell" with a graphite block in the lab, why not extract hydrogen as readily? Biological systems producing urea are promoted for a middle ground, though purists argue glycerine from slime mold is the same difference (though urea is practically biologicslly universal and not really comparsble).
So, one word -- hydrogen.
Whether from coal tar or sugar, water vapor or lightning strikes, already only about $20/30 miles, but coming down. A slogan of the Biden administration: $1, 1 kg, 1 decade. Energy.gov
Somewhere around this sub, or not, is a remark that if hi you or I construct a schoolbus-sized hydrogen water "synthesis" device (with a Tesla hood ornament?), that it should prove humblingly popular.
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Does Tesla build a nuclear power plant in the near future? Hundreds are under construction, so it would hardly be a vanguard effort.
But how many hydrogen plants exist?
When Toyota hydrogen refueling stations appeared, video displays near the pumps described enough details to pique interest online. Steam, carbothermic reduction, a catalyst...
Soon, perhaps methane lines will all become gas mixtures, filtered at the house connector?
No delivery issues. Sort of obvious. (Leakage sounds like one of those things that budding inventors hurl themselves at ad infinitum.)
And the matter of asking "Why haven't we been chemically extracting hydrogen from water by goofy chemical methods that work, though we do not understand them?" can be resolved by continuing to let them go ununderstood. Yes?
One layer of thinking that might give rise to a beeline to truth might be to recall that some highly energetic compounds did not get synthesized with a huge carbon footprint. Not charcoal, not relying on component other footprint-hogs like metallic aluminum, just energetic by nature. Chlorates, nitriles, etc. Not as convenient as oil from the tar pit or coal from the bog, but like lithium, pretty reuseable, short of swearing soulless matter is a real thing. Can a cutting from a tree be reused? How many times? Can hydrogen be tricked into thinking it is a neutron again? What if a pseudohalogen with a reputation as a reducer comes into contact?
So, if water will "fuel cell" with a graphite block in the lab, why not extract hydrogen as readily? Biological systems producing urea are promoted for a middle ground, though purists argue glycerine from slime mold is the same difference (though urea is practically biologicslly universal and not really comparsble).
So, one word -- hydrogen.
Whether from coal tar or sugar, water vapor or lightning strikes, already only about $20/30 miles, but coming down. A slogan of the Biden administration: $1, 1 kg, 1 decade. Energy.gov
Somewhere around this sub, or not, is a remark that if hi you or I construct a schoolbus-sized hydrogen water "synthesis" device (with a Tesla hood ornament?), that it should prove humblingly popular.
2022.10.07 07:16 wsppan Today In Phishstory - October 7th
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Phish, Saturday 10/07/2000 (22 years ago) Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Thursday 10/07/1999 (23 years ago) Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Saturday 10/07/1995 (27 years ago) Spokane Opera House, Spokane, WA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Friday 10/07/1994 (28 years ago) Stabler Arena, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Sunday 10/07/1990 (32 years ago) Club Bene, Sayreville, NJ, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Saturday 10/07/1989 (33 years ago) Chase Hall, Bates College, Lewiston, ME, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Trey Anastasio Band, 2022-10-07 The Arlington Theatre, Santa Barbara, CA, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-band-october-07-2022-the-arlington-theatre-santa-barbara-ca-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes:
Trey Anastasio Band, 2011-10-07 House of Blues, Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Trey Anastasio Band, 2005-10-07 Thomas Wolfe Auditorium, Asheville, NC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon, 2003-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
Jazz Mandolin Project, 2001-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Everyone Orchestra, 2006-10-07 State Theatre, Falls Church, VA, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
The Word of Mouth Experience, 2003-10-07 The Players Club, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
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Phish
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Trey Anastasio
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-band-october-07-2022-the-arlington-theatre-santa-barbara-ca-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes:
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
John Fishman
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Other
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
2022.09.13 09:33 healthstrives01 What You Need To Know About Myfitness Peanut Butter
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To stabilise the product, most peanut butters add hydrogenated oils, which add trans fat and cholesterol to the peanut butter and make it unhealthy. Trans fats and cholesterol are absent from Myfitness peanut butter. It ensures that each serving provides a healthy amount of nourishment.
Every product unquestionably needs a stabiliser, hence Myfitness peanut butter contains an approved stabiliser with the nomenclature INS 471. According to the business, it is a premium hydrogenated soy oil that makes up less than 1% of the finished product. It complies with security and food safety requirements.
Although it is the most concerning feature of peanut butter, sugar and salt. The firm makes it clear that the salt and sugar are added to improve the flavour of the butter. 10 grammes of sugar and 1 gramme of entirely natural, chemical-free salt are both present in each serving of 100 grammes. Bodybuilders require this quantity of sugar and salt to function properly.
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It is commonly referred to as Sahil Khan's Peanut butter since Sahil Khan personally endorses it. Myfitness peanut butter, in contrast to other brands, has a high protein content, no cholesterol, and no trans fat. Myfitness peanut butter generously provides 25 grammes of protein per serving, which is perfect for those who are trying to gain weight.
The company is the only one in India to have its peanut butter approved by the US FDA. Additionally, the company operates under the slogan "No-quality Compromised" and is now known as India's top brand for high-quality peanut butter. Therefore, Myfitness Peanut butter is your finest selection if you're a fitness enthusiast looking for high-quality products.
Making India fit and healthy is the company's additional motto. Let's examine the item and see how effective it is in terms of its quality, efficacy, and nutritional profile.
Myfitness Peanut Butter's nutritional profile
Myfitness peanut butter seeks to offer premium peanut butter while fostering wellness. Its significant nutritional value contributes to health improvement. It is made of a good source of several nutrients that are supplied in a specific amount, according to the label.
Note: The product is advertised as diabetic-friendly by the brand despite having 10 grammes of sugar. We were unable to discover the explanation behind this. Therefore, if you have diabetes, we advise that you speak with your doctor before beginning the intake.
Short description of Myfitness Peanut Butter Trans Fat:
To stabilise the product, most peanut butters add hydrogenated oils, which add trans fat and cholesterol to the peanut butter and make it unhealthy. Trans fats and cholesterol are absent from Myfitness peanut butter. It ensures that each serving provides a healthy amount of nourishment.
Every product unquestionably needs a stabiliser, hence Myfitness peanut butter contains an approved stabiliser with the nomenclature INS 471. According to the business, it is a premium hydrogenated soy oil that makes up less than 1% of the finished product. It complies with security and food safety requirements.
Although it is the most concerning feature of peanut butter, sugar and salt. The firm makes it clear that the salt and sugar are added to improve the flavour of the butter. 10 grammes of sugar and 1 gramme of entirely natural, chemical-free salt are both present in each serving of 100 grammes. Bodybuilders require this quantity of sugar and salt to function properly.
2022.05.26 18:36 LaTabernadelMotor Best Engine Oils
BEST ENGINE OIL LIST [COMPOSITIONS]
Until now we were only guided by the recommendation of a forum member, a mechanic or friend, either based on their personal experience or by the information in their technical data sheets, many of them incomplete.
I have compiled information from different REAL laboratory analyses, this list is not influenced at all by slogans and commercial tips used by brands in their advertising or in the labeling of their product, or by "briefcases" to favor one brand or another, but in the characteristics of the oil, its specifications, the composition of its base and its additives
Some are marketed in our country, others can be purchased through Ebay or Amazon and unfortunately others are impossible to obtain. (I have removed some that are only sold in other continents)
The ideal is to choose, within the specifications required by your engine (Viscosity, ACEA, API) and within your budget, the oil model that is in one of the TOPs in which oils with the best bases are classified.
GROUP OF BASES ORDERED FROM WORST TO BEST
Group III HC
-It is a synthetic base of organic origin that is obtained from the hydrogenation (cleaning) of the mineral base through the hydrocracking process. It is the most used lubricant base by oil companies due to its low cost compared to other bases.
Paraffin isomerization processes are also used in which n-paraffins are transformed into iso-paraffins.
Bases of mineral origin are valid for the vast majority of applications for which they are required. However, when it is necessary to work in extreme conditions, these bases suffer some limits in their behavior. Some of these limitations are:
*At temperatures below -20º, most mineral oils, except when they have added freezing point depressant additives, begin to solidify.
*At temperatures above 180º, lower molecular weight components evaporate, causing an increase in oil viscosity and consequently altering most of its properties.
*When working at high temperatures, mineral oils react more easily with oxygen in the air, forming gums and residues that thicken the oil.
*The viscosity/temperature properties of some mineral oils mean that they are too fluid at high temperatures and too little at low temperatures.
*From an environmental point of view, base oils of mineral origin are not completely biodegradable.
Group III+ GTL
-"GAS TO LIQUID", synthetic base obtained from the liquefaction of natural gas.
Although they belong to the same group as HC of mineral origin, their obtaining/processing is more laborious and expensive, resulting in a better base than its "brother" HC.
Higher purity, higher thermal stability, higher viscosity index, lower volatility, higher oxidation resistance and better response to additives than HC.
They are mainly used by Shell (in most models of its Helix Ultra and Professional range) as well as Mobil (in its Mobil1 range)
Group IV - PAO "Polyalphaolefins"
Synthetic lubricants obtained from ethylene in a process in which a chemical compound is added at the molecular level called Poly-Alphaolefins that give it high temperature resistance and very little volatility (evaporation).
He takes only what interests him from the oil, only the molecules that lubricate, separates them and then uses them to formulate the base.
PAO-based or PAO "enhanced" motor oils (can be used either as a base or as an additive to enhance an HC or GTL) have a number of unique properties that cannot be obtained using conventional Group III base oils.
*Low evaporation (Noak). PAO oils have very low evaporation at high loads, so the oil level on the dipstick barely drops and prevents the oil viscosity from increasing over the miles.
*Without impurities. The use of the PAO base eliminates the addition of a polymeric thickener, which is the main cause of carbon formation in the engine.
* Preservation of properties. PAO-based oils retain their lubricating properties even under high load for longer, which allows the replacement interval to be increased.
*Does not freeze at -63°. PAO base oil has excellent low temperature properties.
Group V – Ester
Ester It is a synthetic compound that is not derived from petroleum but from the reaction of a fatty acid with an alcohol. It is also the most expensive to produce because in its manufacture by natural "cutting" 2 out of 5 productions are rejected.
It is mainly used in the aeronautics, aerospace industry and in automotive competition lubricants where its properties of resistance to extreme temperatures ranging from -68 ° to +325 °, high stickiness and polarity, allow the lubricant to adhere to metal parts.
This compound is the king of compounds in terms of liquid lubricants.
It provides greater lubricity, resistance to extreme temperatures and pressures, polarity (adheres to metals so that the upper parts of the engine do not remain "dry") and also provides detergency.
Approximate price of compounds per ton year 2019
HC up to $750
GTL up to 780$
PAO up to $2700
Ester up to 6000$
Additives
Traditionally, 3 additives are used in motor oils, which are common in all of them (Sota, Caballo and Rey), varying the proportion:
Phosphorus (P) + Zinc (Zn) "ZDDP" - This compound additive has anti-friction, anti-wear, anti-stick, antioxidant and anti-corrosion functions of anti-wear additives most used and most effective.
In some ACEA and API its use is limited/restricted since a higher concentration = a higher amount of ashes and a higher amount of sulfur.
In sports cut oils, their concentration is usually higher (double, triple and even quadruple) since for circuit use the ash/sulfur issue matters rather little.
Calcium (Ca) - Found in oils in the form of neutralizing additives and detergents.
Calcium sulfonate is used and a more modern version of detergents is calcium salicylate. They have the functions of neutralizing the acids formed in the oil during the burning of fuel, such as sulfuric acid (among others) and keeping the engine clean inside.
It also provides dispersing properties (ability to retain particles in suspension) as well as a corrosion inhibitor.
Additionallyin oils with more modern additive packages, we find additives that provide more and better properties to the oil and that not everyone uses, among them are:
Molybdenum (Mo) - Main function is to modify friction, as an anti-rust agent, and to reduce engine noise and consumption.
Molybdenum creates a wear-resistant coating between friction pairs, thus creating a low coefficient of friction between part surfaces.
In the past, molybdenum disulfide (MoS₂) was used, it consists of solid microparticles of mineral origin, well known in commercial additives and some oils, but today it is almost obsolete.
It has recently been replaced by more modern and effective molybdenum compounds, such as organic molybdenum, which is infinitely more soluble and effective than the old MoS₂, while generating less waste.
The different types of organic molybdenum (the pata negra) are mainly MoDTC (molybdenum dithiocarbamate), MoDTP (molybdenum dithiophosphate) and various molybdenum complexes of single core, double core, trinuclear organic molybdenum.
Molybdenum is most often found in ILSAC (Norm, American Standard) and A5/B5/C2 (Fuel Saver) motor oils, but lately we are seeing it more and more in oils with other specifications where ZDDP It is restricted.
Boron (B) - It is a multipurpose additive that extends its properties depending on the type and its concentration:
In small amounts it acts as a dispersant capable of keeping combustion products in suspension and helps to better dissolve and distribute anti-wear and anti-friction additives in oils, improving their efficiency.
In larger quantities it also acts as a neutralizing detergent and in large quantities it also modifies friction, reducing noise and consumption.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages in order to reduce/minimize the use of Calcium.
Boron is also found in commercial additives and some oils in the form of solid particles, known as hexagonal boron nitride (hBn), its main function is that of friction modifier.
Magnesium (Mg) - Neutralizes acids formed during fuel combustion, can improve other properties of oils, for example, keeping particles in suspension , detergency, resist corrosion, etc... an undoubted advantage of using such an additive in oils is a lower sulfur content and a lower ash content.
Both boron and magnesium are recommended for direct injection gasoline engines, which are quite prone to residue build-up on piston rings, piston heads and valves.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages to reduce/minimize Calcium usage and mitigate a very unwanted phenomenon called LSPI (Low RPM Connecting Rod Knocking).
Magnesium is also widely used in oil formulations for use in heavy diesel vehicles, such as trucks, agricultural vehicles, earthmoving vehicles, etc.
Titanium (Ti) - Found in motor oils in the form of titanium oxide, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction.
Titanium oxides, chemically interacting with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on titanium compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Castrol in their "Titanium" range (although less and less lately)
Wolframium (W) - Also known as Tungsten, It is found in motor oils in the form of an organotungstate, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction..
Organotusngtate, which chemically interact with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on organotungstate compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils, and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Ravenol in its high range and the new range of Liqui Moly Molygen "New Generation"
Note:
It is necessary to differentiate between [B]friction reducer[/B] and [B]friction modifier[/B], it seems the same but it is not.
Phosphorus / Zinc "ZDDP" - Reduces friction and prevents wear by avoiding contact and the parts rubbing against each other (metal vs metal) when there is no longer a hydrodynamic cushion (oil films), hence its use is necessary and mandatory in ALL motor oils.
Boron and Molybdenum - Modifies the friction by softening the friction of the pieces but to a certain extent, creates soft "layers" (like puff pastry) on the surface of the pieces, reduces the coefficient of friction, reduces fuel consumption, noise of the engine and in doses of "horse" it helps the engine to develop its maximum power, but when the friction is excessive this protective layer is insufficient, it does not prevent friction but it minimizes it, once those "layers" are overcome it is where it enters The ZDDP is at stake, hence its use is optional and it is not always present.
TOP VISCOSITIES
The specifications of the different oils have been structured as follows:
Brand and Model + Base Composition
TOP XW-16/20 PAO or GTL or HC
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-20 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/dn_gUbx36kQ"
Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 60% PAO + HC + 5% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF5
Amsoil Dominator 5W-20 HC + 60% PAO + 10% Ester
Extreme VR2 0w-20 GTE 70% PAO + 10% Ester API SP - ILSAC GF6 - ACEA C5 "https://youtu.be/OhEgAnnKazQ"
Mobil 1 ESP 0W-20 GTL + 20% PAO + 6% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 40% PAO + HC API SN - ILSAC GF5
Motorex Concept B-XL 0w-20 HC + 20% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA A1/B1
Shell Helix Ultra 0W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Shell Helix Ultra AF 5W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Xenum Nippon Energy 0W-20 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Motul Hybrid 0W-20 HC + 25% PAO API SN - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/soGTPVUq7L4"
Motul Eco-lite 0W-20HC + 30% PAO + 3% Ester API SN - ILSAC GF5
Ravenol Eco Synth ECS SAE 0w-2040% PAO + HC API SN RC - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/ixx70RDoOjg"
Ravenol Extra Fuel Economy EFE SAE 0w-16 50% PAO + HC + API SN "https://youtu.be/BbokQZVA6ZI"
Ravenol SFE SAE 5w2050% PAO + HC API SN RC ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/C_5jKDaAXns"
Redline 0W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/xZr8GNzsxNQ"
Redline 5W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
TOP 0W-30 PAO + HC or HC + PAO
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/XYiSnm18u6k"
Castrol EDGE FST 0w30 A3/B4 HC + 30% PAO API SN - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/M2sSXpdWDbw"
Castrol EDGE 0w30 C370% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3
Elf Evolution FT900 0w-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/gWoH41rkFeo"
Eni I-Sint 0w30 40% PAO + 15% Ester *ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/8VZUUY7bX8s"
Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Motul 8100 X-lite 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Petronas Syntium 7000 DM 0W-30 40% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/RF357EzBE20
Petronas Syntium 7000 E 0W-30 30% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C2 ILSAC GF5 https://youtu.be/SOrRi2UqjAU
Ravenol FES 0w-30 55% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/bNPoCP-0VGc
Ravenol VSW 0W-30 55% PAO + HC + 7% Ester API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/70gsvuDC9XE
Ravenol SSO 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A3/B4 https://youtu.be/bk-vv8HVMLM
Ravenol SSV 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/ql0Q31f09uY
Redline 0W-30 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
Total Quartz Ineo Efficiency 0W-30 50% PAO + HC ACEA C2/C3
Total Quartz Ineo First 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO ACEA C1/C2 https://youtu.be/VT2kiyMPzjs
Texaco Havoline ProDS P 0W-30 60% PAO + HC ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/HmfL-XfKmjE
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Until now we were only guided by the recommendation of a forum member, a mechanic or friend, either based on their personal experience or by the information in their technical data sheets, many of them incomplete.
I have compiled information from different REAL laboratory analyses, this list is not influenced at all by slogans and commercial tips used by brands in their advertising or in the labeling of their product, or by "briefcases" to favor one brand or another, but in the characteristics of the oil, its specifications, the composition of its base and its additives
Some are marketed in our country, others can be purchased through Ebay or Amazon and unfortunately others are impossible to obtain. (I have removed some that are only sold in other continents)
The ideal is to choose, within the specifications required by your engine (Viscosity, ACEA, API) and within your budget, the oil model that is in one of the TOPs in which oils with the best bases are classified.
GROUP OF BASES ORDERED FROM WORST TO BEST
Group III HC
-It is a synthetic base of organic origin that is obtained from the hydrogenation (cleaning) of the mineral base through the hydrocracking process. It is the most used lubricant base by oil companies due to its low cost compared to other bases.
Paraffin isomerization processes are also used in which n-paraffins are transformed into iso-paraffins.
Bases of mineral origin are valid for the vast majority of applications for which they are required. However, when it is necessary to work in extreme conditions, these bases suffer some limits in their behavior. Some of these limitations are:
*At temperatures below -20º, most mineral oils, except when they have added freezing point depressant additives, begin to solidify.
*At temperatures above 180º, lower molecular weight components evaporate, causing an increase in oil viscosity and consequently altering most of its properties.
*When working at high temperatures, mineral oils react more easily with oxygen in the air, forming gums and residues that thicken the oil.
*The viscosity/temperature properties of some mineral oils mean that they are too fluid at high temperatures and too little at low temperatures.
*From an environmental point of view, base oils of mineral origin are not completely biodegradable.
Group III+ GTL
-"GAS TO LIQUID", synthetic base obtained from the liquefaction of natural gas.
Although they belong to the same group as HC of mineral origin, their obtaining/processing is more laborious and expensive, resulting in a better base than its "brother" HC.
Higher purity, higher thermal stability, higher viscosity index, lower volatility, higher oxidation resistance and better response to additives than HC.
They are mainly used by Shell (in most models of its Helix Ultra and Professional range) as well as Mobil (in its Mobil1 range)
Group IV - PAO "Polyalphaolefins"
Synthetic lubricants obtained from ethylene in a process in which a chemical compound is added at the molecular level called Poly-Alphaolefins that give it high temperature resistance and very little volatility (evaporation).
He takes only what interests him from the oil, only the molecules that lubricate, separates them and then uses them to formulate the base.
PAO-based or PAO "enhanced" motor oils (can be used either as a base or as an additive to enhance an HC or GTL) have a number of unique properties that cannot be obtained using conventional Group III base oils.
*Low evaporation (Noak). PAO oils have very low evaporation at high loads, so the oil level on the dipstick barely drops and prevents the oil viscosity from increasing over the miles.
*Without impurities. The use of the PAO base eliminates the addition of a polymeric thickener, which is the main cause of carbon formation in the engine.
* Preservation of properties. PAO-based oils retain their lubricating properties even under high load for longer, which allows the replacement interval to be increased.
*Does not freeze at -63°. PAO base oil has excellent low temperature properties.
Group V – Ester
Ester It is a synthetic compound that is not derived from petroleum but from the reaction of a fatty acid with an alcohol. It is also the most expensive to produce because in its manufacture by natural "cutting" 2 out of 5 productions are rejected.
It is mainly used in the aeronautics, aerospace industry and in automotive competition lubricants where its properties of resistance to extreme temperatures ranging from -68 ° to +325 °, high stickiness and polarity, allow the lubricant to adhere to metal parts.
This compound is the king of compounds in terms of liquid lubricants.
It provides greater lubricity, resistance to extreme temperatures and pressures, polarity (adheres to metals so that the upper parts of the engine do not remain "dry") and also provides detergency.
Approximate price of compounds per ton year 2019
HC up to $750
GTL up to 780$
PAO up to $2700
Ester up to 6000$
Additives
Traditionally, 3 additives are used in motor oils, which are common in all of them (Sota, Caballo and Rey), varying the proportion:
Phosphorus (P) + Zinc (Zn) "ZDDP" - This compound additive has anti-friction, anti-wear, anti-stick, antioxidant and anti-corrosion functions of anti-wear additives most used and most effective.
In some ACEA and API its use is limited/restricted since a higher concentration = a higher amount of ashes and a higher amount of sulfur.
In sports cut oils, their concentration is usually higher (double, triple and even quadruple) since for circuit use the ash/sulfur issue matters rather little.
Calcium (Ca) - Found in oils in the form of neutralizing additives and detergents.
Calcium sulfonate is used and a more modern version of detergents is calcium salicylate. They have the functions of neutralizing the acids formed in the oil during the burning of fuel, such as sulfuric acid (among others) and keeping the engine clean inside.
It also provides dispersing properties (ability to retain particles in suspension) as well as a corrosion inhibitor.
Additionallyin oils with more modern additive packages, we find additives that provide more and better properties to the oil and that not everyone uses, among them are:
Molybdenum (Mo) - Main function is to modify friction, as an anti-rust agent, and to reduce engine noise and consumption.
Molybdenum creates a wear-resistant coating between friction pairs, thus creating a low coefficient of friction between part surfaces.
In the past, molybdenum disulfide (MoS₂) was used, it consists of solid microparticles of mineral origin, well known in commercial additives and some oils, but today it is almost obsolete.
It has recently been replaced by more modern and effective molybdenum compounds, such as organic molybdenum, which is infinitely more soluble and effective than the old MoS₂, while generating less waste.
The different types of organic molybdenum (the pata negra) are mainly MoDTC (molybdenum dithiocarbamate), MoDTP (molybdenum dithiophosphate) and various molybdenum complexes of single core, double core, trinuclear organic molybdenum.
Molybdenum is most often found in ILSAC (Norm, American Standard) and A5/B5/C2 (Fuel Saver) motor oils, but lately we are seeing it more and more in oils with other specifications where ZDDP It is restricted.
Boron (B) - It is a multipurpose additive that extends its properties depending on the type and its concentration:
In small amounts it acts as a dispersant capable of keeping combustion products in suspension and helps to better dissolve and distribute anti-wear and anti-friction additives in oils, improving their efficiency.
In larger quantities it also acts as a neutralizing detergent and in large quantities it also modifies friction, reducing noise and consumption.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages in order to reduce/minimize the use of Calcium.
Boron is also found in commercial additives and some oils in the form of solid particles, known as hexagonal boron nitride (hBn), its main function is that of friction modifier.
Magnesium (Mg) - Neutralizes acids formed during fuel combustion, can improve other properties of oils, for example, keeping particles in suspension , detergency, resist corrosion, etc... an undoubted advantage of using such an additive in oils is a lower sulfur content and a lower ash content.
Both boron and magnesium are recommended for direct injection gasoline engines, which are quite prone to residue build-up on piston rings, piston heads and valves.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages to reduce/minimize Calcium usage and mitigate a very unwanted phenomenon called LSPI (Low RPM Connecting Rod Knocking).
Magnesium is also widely used in oil formulations for use in heavy diesel vehicles, such as trucks, agricultural vehicles, earthmoving vehicles, etc.
Titanium (Ti) - Found in motor oils in the form of titanium oxide, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction.
Titanium oxides, chemically interacting with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on titanium compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Castrol in their "Titanium" range (although less and less lately)
Wolframium (W) - Also known as Tungsten, It is found in motor oils in the form of an organotungstate, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction..
Organotusngtate, which chemically interact with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on organotungstate compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils, and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Ravenol in its high range and the new range of Liqui Moly Molygen "New Generation"
Note:
It is necessary to differentiate between [B]friction reducer[/B] and [B]friction modifier[/B], it seems the same but it is not.
Phosphorus / Zinc "ZDDP" - Reduces friction and prevents wear by avoiding contact and the parts rubbing against each other (metal vs metal) when there is no longer a hydrodynamic cushion (oil films), hence its use is necessary and mandatory in ALL motor oils.
Boron and Molybdenum - Modifies the friction by softening the friction of the pieces but to a certain extent, creates soft "layers" (like puff pastry) on the surface of the pieces, reduces the coefficient of friction, reduces fuel consumption, noise of the engine and in doses of "horse" it helps the engine to develop its maximum power, but when the friction is excessive this protective layer is insufficient, it does not prevent friction but it minimizes it, once those "layers" are overcome it is where it enters The ZDDP is at stake, hence its use is optional and it is not always present.
TOP VISCOSITIES
The specifications of the different oils have been structured as follows:
Brand and Model + Base Composition
TOP XW-16/20 PAO or GTL or HC
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-20 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/dn_gUbx36kQ"
Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 60% PAO + HC + 5% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF5
Amsoil Dominator 5W-20 HC + 60% PAO + 10% Ester
Extreme VR2 0w-20 GTE 70% PAO + 10% Ester API SP - ILSAC GF6 - ACEA C5 "https://youtu.be/OhEgAnnKazQ"
Mobil 1 ESP 0W-20 GTL + 20% PAO + 6% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 40% PAO + HC API SN - ILSAC GF5
Motorex Concept B-XL 0w-20 HC + 20% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA A1/B1
Shell Helix Ultra 0W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Shell Helix Ultra AF 5W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Xenum Nippon Energy 0W-20 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Motul Hybrid 0W-20 HC + 25% PAO API SN - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/soGTPVUq7L4"
Motul Eco-lite 0W-20HC + 30% PAO + 3% Ester API SN - ILSAC GF5
Ravenol Eco Synth ECS SAE 0w-2040% PAO + HC API SN RC - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/ixx70RDoOjg"
Ravenol Extra Fuel Economy EFE SAE 0w-16 50% PAO + HC + API SN "https://youtu.be/BbokQZVA6ZI"
Ravenol SFE SAE 5w2050% PAO + HC API SN RC ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/C_5jKDaAXns"
Redline 0W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/xZr8GNzsxNQ"
Redline 5W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
TOP 0W-30 PAO + HC or HC + PAO
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/XYiSnm18u6k"
Castrol EDGE FST 0w30 A3/B4 HC + 30% PAO API SN - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/M2sSXpdWDbw"
Castrol EDGE 0w30 C370% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3
Elf Evolution FT900 0w-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/gWoH41rkFeo"
Eni I-Sint 0w30 40% PAO + 15% Ester *ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/8VZUUY7bX8s"
Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Motul 8100 X-lite 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Petronas Syntium 7000 DM 0W-30 40% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/RF357EzBE20
Petronas Syntium 7000 E 0W-30 30% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C2 ILSAC GF5 https://youtu.be/SOrRi2UqjAU
Ravenol FES 0w-30 55% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/bNPoCP-0VGc
Ravenol VSW 0W-30 55% PAO + HC + 7% Ester API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/70gsvuDC9XE
Ravenol SSO 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A3/B4 https://youtu.be/bk-vv8HVMLM
Ravenol SSV 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/ql0Q31f09uY
Redline 0W-30 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
Total Quartz Ineo Efficiency 0W-30 50% PAO + HC ACEA C2/C3
Total Quartz Ineo First 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO ACEA C1/C2 https://youtu.be/VT2kiyMPzjs
Texaco Havoline ProDS P 0W-30 60% PAO + HC ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/HmfL-XfKmjE
2022.05.16 20:54 LaTabernadelMotor TOP List Motor Oils [COMPOSITIONS]
Until now we were only guided by the recommendation of a forum member, a mechanic or friend, either based on their personal experience or by the information in their technical data sheets, many of them incomplete.
I have compiled information from different REAL laboratory analyses, this list is not influenced at all by slogans and commercial tips used by brands in their advertising or in the labeling of their product, or by "briefcases" to favor one brand or another, but in the characteristics of the oil, its specifications, the composition of its base and its additives
Some are marketed in our country, others can be purchased through Ebay or Amazon and unfortunately others are impossible to obtain. (I have removed some that are only sold in other continents)
The ideal is to choose, within the specifications required by your engine (Viscosity, ACEA, API) and within your budget, the oil model that is in one of the TOPs in which oils with the best bases are classified.
GROUP OF BASES ORDERED FROM WORST TO BEST
Group III HC
-It is a synthetic base of organic origin that is obtained from the hydrogenation (cleaning) of the mineral base through the hydrocracking process. It is the most used lubricant base by oil companies due to its low cost compared to other bases.
Paraffin isomerization processes are also used in which n-paraffins are transformed into iso-paraffins.
Bases of mineral origin are valid for the vast majority of applications for which they are required. However, when it is necessary to work in extreme conditions, these bases suffer some limits in their behavior. Some of these limitations are:
*At temperatures below -20º, most mineral oils, except when they have added freezing point depressant additives, begin to solidify.
*At temperatures above 180º, lower molecular weight components evaporate, causing an increase in oil viscosity and consequently altering most of its properties.
*When working at high temperatures, mineral oils react more easily with oxygen in the air, forming gums and residues that thicken the oil.
*The viscosity/temperature properties of some mineral oils mean that they are too fluid at high temperatures and too little at low temperatures.
*From an environmental point of view, base oils of mineral origin are not completely biodegradable.
Group III+ GTL
-"GAS TO LIQUID", synthetic base obtained from the liquefaction of natural gas.
Although they belong to the same group as HC of mineral origin, their obtaining/processing is more laborious and expensive, resulting in a better base than its "brother" HC.
Higher purity, higher thermal stability, higher viscosity index, lower volatility, higher oxidation resistance and better response to additives than HC.
They are mainly used by Shell (in most models of its Helix Ultra and Professional range) as well as Mobil (in its Mobil1 range)
Group IV - PAO "Polyalphaolefins"
Synthetic lubricants obtained from ethylene in a process in which a chemical compound is added at the molecular level called Poly-Alphaolefins that give it high temperature resistance and very little volatility (evaporation).
He takes only what interests him from the oil, only the molecules that lubricate, separates them and then uses them to formulate the base.
PAO-based or PAO "enhanced" motor oils (can be used either as a base or as an additive to enhance an HC or GTL) have a number of unique properties that cannot be obtained using conventional Group III base oils.
*Low evaporation (Noak). PAO oils have very low evaporation at high loads, so the oil level on the dipstick barely drops and prevents the oil viscosity from increasing over the miles.
*Without impurities. The use of the PAO base eliminates the addition of a polymeric thickener, which is the main cause of carbon formation in the engine.
* Preservation of properties. PAO-based oils retain their lubricating properties even under high load for longer, which allows the replacement interval to be increased.
*Does not freeze at -63°. PAO base oil has excellent low temperature properties.
Group V – Ester
Ester It is a synthetic compound that is not derived from petroleum but from the reaction of a fatty acid with an alcohol. It is also the most expensive to produce because in its manufacture by natural "cutting" 2 out of 5 productions are rejected.
It is mainly used in the aeronautics, aerospace industry and in automotive competition lubricants where its properties of resistance to extreme temperatures ranging from -68 ° to +325 °, high stickiness and polarity, allow the lubricant to adhere to metal parts.
This compound is the king of compounds in terms of liquid lubricants.
It provides greater lubricity, resistance to extreme temperatures and pressures, polarity (adheres to metals so that the upper parts of the engine do not remain "dry") and also provides detergency.
Approximate price of compounds per ton year 2019
HC up to $750
GTL up to 780$
PAO up to $2700
Ester up to 6000$
Additives
Traditionally, 3 additives are used in motor oils, which are common in all of them (Sota, Caballo and Rey), varying the proportion:
Phosphorus (P) + Zinc (Zn) "ZDDP" - This compound additive has anti-friction, anti-wear, anti-stick, antioxidant and anti-corrosion functions of anti-wear additives most used and most effective.
In some ACEA and API its use is limited/restricted since a higher concentration = a higher amount of ashes and a higher amount of sulfur.
In sports cut oils, their concentration is usually higher (double, triple and even quadruple) since for circuit use the ash/sulfur issue matters rather little.
Calcium (Ca) - Found in oils in the form of neutralizing additives and detergents.
Calcium sulfonate is used and a more modern version of detergents is calcium salicylate. They have the functions of neutralizing the acids formed in the oil during the burning of fuel, such as sulfuric acid (among others) and keeping the engine clean inside.
It also provides dispersing properties (ability to retain particles in suspension) as well as a corrosion inhibitor.
Additionallyin oils with more modern additive packages, we find additives that provide more and better properties to the oil and that not everyone uses, among them are:
Molybdenum (Mo) - Main function is to modify friction, as an anti-rust agent, and to reduce engine noise and consumption.
Molybdenum creates a wear-resistant coating between friction pairs, thus creating a low coefficient of friction between part surfaces.
In the past, molybdenum disulfide (MoS₂) was used, it consists of solid microparticles of mineral origin, well known in commercial additives and some oils, but today it is almost obsolete.
It has recently been replaced by more modern and effective molybdenum compounds, such as organic molybdenum, which is infinitely more soluble and effective than the old MoS₂, while generating less waste.
The different types of organic molybdenum (the pata negra) are mainly MoDTC (molybdenum dithiocarbamate), MoDTP (molybdenum dithiophosphate) and various molybdenum complexes of single core, double core, trinuclear organic molybdenum.
Molybdenum is most often found in ILSAC (Norm, American Standard) and A5/B5/C2 (Fuel Saver) motor oils, but lately we are seeing it more and more in oils with other specifications where ZDDP It is restricted.
Boron (B) - It is a multipurpose additive that extends its properties depending on the type and its concentration:
In small amounts it acts as a dispersant capable of keeping combustion products in suspension and helps to better dissolve and distribute anti-wear and anti-friction additives in oils, improving their efficiency.
In larger quantities it also acts as a neutralizing detergent and in large quantities it also modifies friction, reducing noise and consumption.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages in order to reduce/minimize the use of Calcium.
Boron is also found in commercial additives and some oils in the form of solid particles, known as hexagonal boron nitride (hBn), its main function is that of friction modifier.
Magnesium (Mg) - Neutralizes acids formed during fuel combustion, can improve other properties of oils, for example, keeping particles in suspension , detergency, resist corrosion, etc... an undoubted advantage of using such an additive in oils is a lower sulfur content and a lower ash content.
Both boron and magnesium are recommended for direct injection gasoline engines, which are quite prone to residue build-up on piston rings, piston heads and valves.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages to reduce/minimize Calcium usage and mitigate a very unwanted phenomenon called LSPI (Low RPM Connecting Rod Knocking).
Magnesium is also widely used in oil formulations for use in heavy diesel vehicles, such as trucks, agricultural vehicles, earthmoving vehicles, etc.
Titanium (Ti) - Found in motor oils in the form of titanium oxide, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction.
Titanium oxides, chemically interacting with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on titanium compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Castrol in their "Titanium" range (although less and less lately)
Wolframium (W) - Also known as Tungsten, It is found in motor oils in the form of an organotungstate, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction..
Organotusngtate, which chemically interact with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on organotungstate compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils, and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Ravenol in its high range and the new range of Liqui Moly Molygen "New Generation"
Note:
It is necessary to differentiate between [B]friction reducer[/B] and [B]friction modifier[/B], it seems the same but it is not.
Phosphorus / Zinc "ZDDP" - Reduces friction and prevents wear by avoiding contact and the parts rubbing against each other (metal vs metal) when there is no longer a hydrodynamic cushion (oil films), hence its use is necessary and mandatory in ALL motor oils.
Boron and Molybdenum - Modifies the friction by softening the friction of the pieces but to a certain extent, creates soft "layers" (like puff pastry) on the surface of the pieces, reduces the coefficient of friction, reduces fuel consumption, noise of the engine and in doses of "horse" it helps the engine to develop its maximum power, but when the friction is excessive this protective layer is insufficient, it does not prevent friction but it minimizes it, once those "layers" are overcome it is where it enters The ZDDP is at stake, hence its use is optional and it is not always present.
TOP VISCOSITIES
The specifications of the different oils have been structured as follows:
Brand and Model + Base Composition
TOP XW-16/20 PAO or GTL or HC
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-20 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/dn_gUbx36kQ"
Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 60% PAO + HC + 5% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF5
Amsoil Dominator 5W-20 HC + 60% PAO + 10% Ester
Extreme VR2 0w-20 GTE 70% PAO + 10% Ester API SP - ILSAC GF6 - ACEA C5 "https://youtu.be/OhEgAnnKazQ"
Mobil 1 ESP 0W-20 GTL + 20% PAO + 6% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 40% PAO + HC API SN - ILSAC GF5
Motorex Concept B-XL 0w-20 HC + 20% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA A1/B1
Shell Helix Ultra 0W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Shell Helix Ultra AF 5W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Xenum Nippon Energy 0W-20 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Motul Hybrid 0W-20 HC + 25% PAO API SN - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/soGTPVUq7L4"
Motul Eco-lite 0W-20HC + 30% PAO + 3% Ester API SN - ILSAC GF5
Ravenol Eco Synth ECS SAE 0w-2040% PAO + HC API SN RC - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/ixx70RDoOjg"
Ravenol Extra Fuel Economy EFE SAE 0w-16 50% PAO + HC + API SN "https://youtu.be/BbokQZVA6ZI"
Ravenol SFE SAE 5w2050% PAO + HC API SN RC ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/C_5jKDaAXns"
Redline 0W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/xZr8GNzsxNQ"
Redline 5W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
TOP 0W-30 PAO + HC or HC + PAO
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/XYiSnm18u6k"
Castrol EDGE FST 0w30 A3/B4 HC + 30% PAO API SN - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/M2sSXpdWDbw"
Castrol EDGE 0w30 C370% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3
Elf Evolution FT900 0w-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/gWoH41rkFeo"
Eni I-Sint 0w30 40% PAO + 15% Ester *ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/8VZUUY7bX8s"
Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Motul 8100 X-lite 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Petronas Syntium 7000 DM 0W-30 40% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/RF357EzBE20
Petronas Syntium 7000 E 0W-30 30% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C2 ILSAC GF5 https://youtu.be/SOrRi2UqjAU
Ravenol FES 0w-30 55% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/bNPoCP-0VGc
Ravenol VSW 0W-30 55% PAO + HC + 7% Ester API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/70gsvuDC9XE
Ravenol SSO 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A3/B4 https://youtu.be/bk-vv8HVMLM
Ravenol SSV 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/ql0Q31f09uY
Redline 0W-30 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
Total Quartz Ineo Efficiency 0W-30 50% PAO + HC ACEA C2/C3
Total Quartz Ineo First 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO ACEA C1/C2 https://youtu.be/VT2kiyMPzjs
Texaco Havoline ProDS P 0W-30[/URL][/B] 60% PAO + HC ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/HmfL-XfKmjE
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I have compiled information from different REAL laboratory analyses, this list is not influenced at all by slogans and commercial tips used by brands in their advertising or in the labeling of their product, or by "briefcases" to favor one brand or another, but in the characteristics of the oil, its specifications, the composition of its base and its additives
Some are marketed in our country, others can be purchased through Ebay or Amazon and unfortunately others are impossible to obtain. (I have removed some that are only sold in other continents)
The ideal is to choose, within the specifications required by your engine (Viscosity, ACEA, API) and within your budget, the oil model that is in one of the TOPs in which oils with the best bases are classified.
GROUP OF BASES ORDERED FROM WORST TO BEST
Group III HC
-It is a synthetic base of organic origin that is obtained from the hydrogenation (cleaning) of the mineral base through the hydrocracking process. It is the most used lubricant base by oil companies due to its low cost compared to other bases.
Paraffin isomerization processes are also used in which n-paraffins are transformed into iso-paraffins.
Bases of mineral origin are valid for the vast majority of applications for which they are required. However, when it is necessary to work in extreme conditions, these bases suffer some limits in their behavior. Some of these limitations are:
*At temperatures below -20º, most mineral oils, except when they have added freezing point depressant additives, begin to solidify.
*At temperatures above 180º, lower molecular weight components evaporate, causing an increase in oil viscosity and consequently altering most of its properties.
*When working at high temperatures, mineral oils react more easily with oxygen in the air, forming gums and residues that thicken the oil.
*The viscosity/temperature properties of some mineral oils mean that they are too fluid at high temperatures and too little at low temperatures.
*From an environmental point of view, base oils of mineral origin are not completely biodegradable.
Group III+ GTL
-"GAS TO LIQUID", synthetic base obtained from the liquefaction of natural gas.
Although they belong to the same group as HC of mineral origin, their obtaining/processing is more laborious and expensive, resulting in a better base than its "brother" HC.
Higher purity, higher thermal stability, higher viscosity index, lower volatility, higher oxidation resistance and better response to additives than HC.
They are mainly used by Shell (in most models of its Helix Ultra and Professional range) as well as Mobil (in its Mobil1 range)
Group IV - PAO "Polyalphaolefins"
Synthetic lubricants obtained from ethylene in a process in which a chemical compound is added at the molecular level called Poly-Alphaolefins that give it high temperature resistance and very little volatility (evaporation).
He takes only what interests him from the oil, only the molecules that lubricate, separates them and then uses them to formulate the base.
PAO-based or PAO "enhanced" motor oils (can be used either as a base or as an additive to enhance an HC or GTL) have a number of unique properties that cannot be obtained using conventional Group III base oils.
*Low evaporation (Noak). PAO oils have very low evaporation at high loads, so the oil level on the dipstick barely drops and prevents the oil viscosity from increasing over the miles.
*Without impurities. The use of the PAO base eliminates the addition of a polymeric thickener, which is the main cause of carbon formation in the engine.
* Preservation of properties. PAO-based oils retain their lubricating properties even under high load for longer, which allows the replacement interval to be increased.
*Does not freeze at -63°. PAO base oil has excellent low temperature properties.
Group V – Ester
Ester It is a synthetic compound that is not derived from petroleum but from the reaction of a fatty acid with an alcohol. It is also the most expensive to produce because in its manufacture by natural "cutting" 2 out of 5 productions are rejected.
It is mainly used in the aeronautics, aerospace industry and in automotive competition lubricants where its properties of resistance to extreme temperatures ranging from -68 ° to +325 °, high stickiness and polarity, allow the lubricant to adhere to metal parts.
This compound is the king of compounds in terms of liquid lubricants.
It provides greater lubricity, resistance to extreme temperatures and pressures, polarity (adheres to metals so that the upper parts of the engine do not remain "dry") and also provides detergency.
Approximate price of compounds per ton year 2019
HC up to $750
GTL up to 780$
PAO up to $2700
Ester up to 6000$
Additives
Traditionally, 3 additives are used in motor oils, which are common in all of them (Sota, Caballo and Rey), varying the proportion:
Phosphorus (P) + Zinc (Zn) "ZDDP" - This compound additive has anti-friction, anti-wear, anti-stick, antioxidant and anti-corrosion functions of anti-wear additives most used and most effective.
In some ACEA and API its use is limited/restricted since a higher concentration = a higher amount of ashes and a higher amount of sulfur.
In sports cut oils, their concentration is usually higher (double, triple and even quadruple) since for circuit use the ash/sulfur issue matters rather little.
Calcium (Ca) - Found in oils in the form of neutralizing additives and detergents.
Calcium sulfonate is used and a more modern version of detergents is calcium salicylate. They have the functions of neutralizing the acids formed in the oil during the burning of fuel, such as sulfuric acid (among others) and keeping the engine clean inside.
It also provides dispersing properties (ability to retain particles in suspension) as well as a corrosion inhibitor.
Additionallyin oils with more modern additive packages, we find additives that provide more and better properties to the oil and that not everyone uses, among them are:
Molybdenum (Mo) - Main function is to modify friction, as an anti-rust agent, and to reduce engine noise and consumption.
Molybdenum creates a wear-resistant coating between friction pairs, thus creating a low coefficient of friction between part surfaces.
In the past, molybdenum disulfide (MoS₂) was used, it consists of solid microparticles of mineral origin, well known in commercial additives and some oils, but today it is almost obsolete.
It has recently been replaced by more modern and effective molybdenum compounds, such as organic molybdenum, which is infinitely more soluble and effective than the old MoS₂, while generating less waste.
The different types of organic molybdenum (the pata negra) are mainly MoDTC (molybdenum dithiocarbamate), MoDTP (molybdenum dithiophosphate) and various molybdenum complexes of single core, double core, trinuclear organic molybdenum.
Molybdenum is most often found in ILSAC (Norm, American Standard) and A5/B5/C2 (Fuel Saver) motor oils, but lately we are seeing it more and more in oils with other specifications where ZDDP It is restricted.
Boron (B) - It is a multipurpose additive that extends its properties depending on the type and its concentration:
In small amounts it acts as a dispersant capable of keeping combustion products in suspension and helps to better dissolve and distribute anti-wear and anti-friction additives in oils, improving their efficiency.
In larger quantities it also acts as a neutralizing detergent and in large quantities it also modifies friction, reducing noise and consumption.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages in order to reduce/minimize the use of Calcium.
Boron is also found in commercial additives and some oils in the form of solid particles, known as hexagonal boron nitride (hBn), its main function is that of friction modifier.
Magnesium (Mg) - Neutralizes acids formed during fuel combustion, can improve other properties of oils, for example, keeping particles in suspension , detergency, resist corrosion, etc... an undoubted advantage of using such an additive in oils is a lower sulfur content and a lower ash content.
Both boron and magnesium are recommended for direct injection gasoline engines, which are quite prone to residue build-up on piston rings, piston heads and valves.
It is increasingly found in modern additive packages to reduce/minimize Calcium usage and mitigate a very unwanted phenomenon called LSPI (Low RPM Connecting Rod Knocking).
Magnesium is also widely used in oil formulations for use in heavy diesel vehicles, such as trucks, agricultural vehicles, earthmoving vehicles, etc.
Titanium (Ti) - Found in motor oils in the form of titanium oxide, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction.
Titanium oxides, chemically interacting with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on titanium compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Castrol in their "Titanium" range (although less and less lately)
Wolframium (W) - Also known as Tungsten, It is found in motor oils in the form of an organotungstate, it has an antioxidant function, reduces wear and friction..
Organotusngtate, which chemically interact with metal surfaces, create an anti-wear layer on it. Therefore, additives based on organotungstate compounds reduce wear, have anti-seize properties, reduce the coefficient of friction, are highly soluble in oils, and are an effective antioxidant. Commonly used by Ravenol in its high range and the new range of Liqui Moly Molygen "New Generation"
Note:
It is necessary to differentiate between [B]friction reducer[/B] and [B]friction modifier[/B], it seems the same but it is not.
Phosphorus / Zinc "ZDDP" - Reduces friction and prevents wear by avoiding contact and the parts rubbing against each other (metal vs metal) when there is no longer a hydrodynamic cushion (oil films), hence its use is necessary and mandatory in ALL motor oils.
Boron and Molybdenum - Modifies the friction by softening the friction of the pieces but to a certain extent, creates soft "layers" (like puff pastry) on the surface of the pieces, reduces the coefficient of friction, reduces fuel consumption, noise of the engine and in doses of "horse" it helps the engine to develop its maximum power, but when the friction is excessive this protective layer is insufficient, it does not prevent friction but it minimizes it, once those "layers" are overcome it is where it enters The ZDDP is at stake, hence its use is optional and it is not always present.
TOP VISCOSITIES
The specifications of the different oils have been structured as follows:
Brand and Model + Base Composition
TOP XW-16/20 PAO or GTL or HC
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-20 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/dn_gUbx36kQ"
Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 60% PAO + HC + 5% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1 ILSAC GF5
Amsoil Dominator 5W-20 HC + 60% PAO + 10% Ester
Extreme VR2 0w-20 GTE 70% PAO + 10% Ester API SP - ILSAC GF6 - ACEA C5 "https://youtu.be/OhEgAnnKazQ"
Mobil 1 ESP 0W-20 GTL + 20% PAO + 6% Ester API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 40% PAO + HC API SN - ILSAC GF5
Motorex Concept B-XL 0w-20 HC + 20% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA A1/B1
Shell Helix Ultra 0W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Shell Helix Ultra AF 5W-20 GTL API SN - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5
Xenum Nippon Energy 0W-20 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A1/B1
Motul Hybrid 0W-20 HC + 25% PAO API SN - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/soGTPVUq7L4"
Motul Eco-lite 0W-20HC + 30% PAO + 3% Ester API SN - ILSAC GF5
Ravenol Eco Synth ECS SAE 0w-2040% PAO + HC API SN RC - ACEA A1/B1 - ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/ixx70RDoOjg"
Ravenol Extra Fuel Economy EFE SAE 0w-16 50% PAO + HC + API SN "https://youtu.be/BbokQZVA6ZI"
Ravenol SFE SAE 5w2050% PAO + HC API SN RC ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/C_5jKDaAXns"
Redline 0W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5 "https://youtu.be/xZr8GNzsxNQ"
Redline 5W-20 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
TOP 0W-30 PAO + HC or HC + PAO
Amsoil Signature Series 0W-30 60% PAO + HC + 13% Ester API SP - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF6 "https://youtu.be/XYiSnm18u6k"
Castrol EDGE FST 0w30 A3/B4 HC + 30% PAO API SN - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/M2sSXpdWDbw"
Castrol EDGE 0w30 C370% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3
Elf Evolution FT900 0w-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A3/B4 "https://youtu.be/gWoH41rkFeo"
Eni I-Sint 0w30 40% PAO + 15% Ester *ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/8VZUUY7bX8s"
Fuchs Titan Supersyn Longlife 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Motul 8100 X-lite 0W-30 HC + 30% PAO + 10% Ester API SL - ACEA A3/B4
Petronas Syntium 7000 DM 0W-30 40% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/RF357EzBE20
Petronas Syntium 7000 E 0W-30 30% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA C2 ILSAC GF5 https://youtu.be/SOrRi2UqjAU
Ravenol FES 0w-30 55% PAO + 5% Ester ACEA C2 https://youtu.be/bNPoCP-0VGc
Ravenol VSW 0W-30 55% PAO + HC + 7% Ester API SN - ACEA C3 https://youtu.be/70gsvuDC9XE
Ravenol SSO 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SN - ACEA A3/B4 https://youtu.be/bk-vv8HVMLM
Ravenol SSV 0W-30 50% PAO + HC API SL - ACEA A5/B5 https://youtu.be/ql0Q31f09uY
Redline 0W-30 40%-60% Ester + PAO API SN - ACEA A5/B5 ILSAC GF5
Total Quartz Ineo Efficiency 0W-30 50% PAO + HC ACEA C2/C3
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Diary Of Adam Samuels, Leader of The Sons Of Humanity
We failed today. The fascists stopped us. We could have saved humanity today, but instead we must go another day under the boots of our alien overlords. My men fought bravely but were overcome. Perhaps there is a traitor amongst my ranks, I must ask Benedicts to investigate for I have no more loyal a man than he. The plan we had in place was almost foolproof. As the diplomatic core and the aliens posed for the cameras, a stupid fascist propaganda op, Alpha team set off the charges and Beta team mounted the wall and opened fire on the diplomats and aliens. Both of these serving distractions for the Gamma team. Gamma providing a getaway vehicle for Alpha and was to rendezvous after the attack was complete. Except the attack went completely sideways from the get go.
The charges went off as planned, but Beta team was slow getting over the wall and the fascists local boot stompers had time to respond to them. Alpha team fell back to the prearranged pick up point to find that Gamma had just disappeared, no sign of him. To their credit, Alpha team then decided to not be captured and instead joined in firing on the crowd with Beta team. This would have provided an overwhelming amount of firepower but the Bochdew scum deployed a seismic charge and disappeared underneath the stage.
We failed today. We failed spectacularly. But tomorrow, we will be better. We know the capabilities of the enemy even better now and their allies. Without this we would have never known that the Bochdew's tactical response. Just another point towards our alien "friends" really being our conquerors. If only the world could see it. Today we weren't good enough. Tomorrow we will be.
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Daily Log Of Renee Auberjonois, Station Security Chief
We failed today. We may have salvaged the situation and saved the diplomats but it was too close a thing to call a success. Today never should have happened. Too many security slip ups, slow response times and too much reliance on luck. A competent enemy would have overwhelmed us, but thankfully for us it was those ridiculous Sons Of Humanity. The so called saviours of Humanity have this ridiculous idea that just because we don't want to blow up everything that isn't human means we've become a dictatorial regime hellbent to please our alien overlords. Its crap. The Bochdew aren't even militaristic, they're bloody pacifists. Can't blame them their when you're that small and hunted by literally everything on your home world. Forget fighting, just run and hide. Still their suits are something wondrous, security nightmare but they look fantastic. How did something seven inches tall build a five foot tall mechanised mobility suit as graceful as they are with a fuel efficient rating that puts most grand touring cars an- I'm rambling aren't I?
Back to today's failure. The Sons Of Humanity have a slightly different name amongst my security personnel, the Minutemen, because a minute is about how much fight they have in them. But the damage they can do in that minute is shocking. I have no idea how they managed to get the explosives past our checks, but they had placed them at crowd choke points. While their discipline and morale are lacking, I can't fault them for their tactical planning. When the first explosions went off, I immediately covered the diplomats and the Bochdew deployed shields. They may have no offensive weapons but I swear their shields could hold of a planetary barrage. It was a wise move as ten seconds after the explosions the Minutemen opened fired on us. Seemed like a good dozen or so with their stylised plasma muskets. I've confiscated a enough of them to know that they're not muskets, but really plasma launchers using converted plasma batteries as ammo. Cheap and easy to obtain, downside is that if you skimp on the battery conversion you get less a projectile and more a plasma bomb.
The crowd responded predictably and started to scramble, giving further cover to the shooters. I got on the radio and called out enemy position as I saw them. Our snipers accuracy was below their usual average, I'll have to schedule more target practice for them. Just as the first group of shooters were painted, the second lot were upon us. I covered the diplomats as best I could. Thankfully I got very lucky. The stage gave way and the diplomats, the Bochdew, a few of the security guards and myself fell through the stage and out of the line of fire. I broke my legs in the fall but walked it off. The Bochdew diplomat tried to help, but to be honest the strength of his suit would have crushed me so I turned him down. But still...
We failed today. There were too many slip ups and we only saved the principles by sheer luck. I've scheduled a full security overview and extra training sessions for all departments. We weren't good enough today but I promise it won't happen again
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Letter Of Resignation by Chief Engineer Dell Conagher
We failed today and its my fault. All those people hurt, all that death and destruction, that's on me. Those sons of whores manged to beat me on my station and set off explosives without any of my boys getting wind of them until it was far too late. I have no doubt that Auberjonois is going to be calling for my head after my screw up so I'm beating her to the punch. I set up the security sniffers as she ordered, they were some of my best designs. Or at least I thought they were. Some of the best sniffer sensors built around a photonic core charge pack and anti-grav ion thrusters. Small, manoeuvrable and should be able to find anything explosive, flammable, or acidic within four hundred meters and I had a dozen of these buggers that could last for forty years before needing to be recharged. More than enough to cover the square, the photo op and the area beyond. Yet these bastards fooled them. No, not them. The scanners worked fine, they fooled me.
Just before the start of the photo op one of the sniffers picked up an anomalous reading. It was coming from the entrance to the square, I tasked the drone to investigate further and found that the reading was coming from a trash can. The reading was detecting something it called anomalously acidic, or to translate from Engineer-speak, something in there could burn a humans arm off. Now little known fact about the garbage in the station is that all the garbage cans have acid in the base of them. You throw something out and then the bin dumps it in acid destroying it and removing ninety percent of the waste we create. I saw the sniffer droid look at the bin, I saw the reading and thought I knew immediately what had happened. I flagged it as a false positive and told the sniffer to move on.
Obviously I now know that it was not the regular acid they were detecting but rather the first part of a binary explosive. I'll give the Sons Of Humanity credit on this, it was a damn clever plan. Acids create a lot of hydrogen when they break something down, you add a substance that produces a lot of hydrogen into acid, have it break it down while you turn up the heat and you'll get one hell of an explosion. Better than mining charges and almost undetectable unless someone has the presence of mind to think to look for your acid. Which I did not. My failure in judgement caused all of this, if I had caught the explosives none of this would have happened. Hopefully the next chief will be good enough. I wasn't.
Signed,
Former Chief Engineer Dell Conagher
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Traffic Incident Report #91-C-1121 by Officer Jeffery Balcerzak
Subject: White human male, late thirties to mid forties wearing combat fatigues and a Sons Of Humanity t-shirt, stained with ketchup, driving an illegally modified anti gravity black and red garbage disposal ground transport.
Condition: Human subject is in critical condition, comatose. Ground transport is detained
Offences: One count: Illegally modifying ground transport, Illegally obtaining a ground transport, Being in possession of forged documents, assaulting a police officer, illicit drug use. Five Counts: Illegal weapons possession, endangering the station. Thirty One Counts: Inappropriate language (Racial slur)
Incident: Officer's Balcerzak and Bonanno were overseeing transportation of station equipment when they noticed a suspicious vehicle parked nearby. Upon approaching the vehicle, the driver began shouting anti-alien slogans and took the illegal substance known as Kamikaze. Upon the drug taking effect the driver charged the officers with a home made vibration axe. Officer Balcerzak drew and discharged his pacification sidearm into the driver's chest five times to no effect. Officer Bonanno followed with his own pacification sidearm volley of six rounds to the drivers chest to no effect. Officer Bonanno then engaged in close quarters combat with the driver holding him in place while Officer Balcerzak discharged a further five pacification rounds into the driver's head. This was enough to pacify the driver and eventually detain him for medical treatment. The driver has been sent to a local medical treatment facility to recover from his injuries and drug use. Upon searching the drivers vehicle, multiple modified plasma rifles and fake identification chips identifying the driver as "Bruce Wayne", "Clark Kent" and "George Washington". The vehicle had been modified to accept user input and ignore the stations VI command nodes.
Injuries: Officer Balcerzak has suffered injuries too numerous to list here. Officer Bonanno has suffered two broken arms and a fractured skull. Driver has suffered multiple strokes, several broken and shattered ribs, a fractured skull, and two shattered knee caps.
Officer Comments: We failed today. This entire stop was a copulating mother of a mess. But we failed even before today, and you want to know why? Why in the name of all that is holy and right do we have a god damn donkey copulating traffic incident report form on a space station! What traffic do we have except for the AI controlled ground transports. The mere fact that this form exists on this station is proof that we royally copulated the pooch when designing the guidance system on those things. If someone had done their job properly this never would have happened. But instead, we find out that these transports can be hijacked by the damn Minutemen. Racists with barely enough brain power to lift a rifle are able to reprogram these things, if that's not failure I don't know what is.
I don't know what else to say about how bad today was from an officer's point of view. Pat and I had to take down a roiding psychopath with nothing but P-rounds. The much-vaunted copulating taser rounds didn't do a damn thing to the guy. I had to put a half dozen rounds in the guys face just to get him slow down enough just to arrest him. When Pat and I get back to active duty words will need to be had about our arsenal. If we had known about this before hand, then maybe we could have been prepared, but nobody informed us about the fact that the ground transports could be used like this. About from command's general incompetence, I'd like to nominate Officer Patrick Bonanno for a full commendation for services render in the line of duty. He went above and beyond and wrestled a mother copulating bear of a man to the ground. He deserves a full commendation. I wasn't good enough of a partner for him today, but I won't let him down again.
Supervisors Comments: We failed our officers today. Its true, we dropped the ball on intel, on preparedness and on basic supplies. We didn't inform our officers of the danger presented, didn't prep them on how to deal with an illicit drug like Kamikaze and didn't issue them the right equipment to deal with anything like they had today. Yet they got the job done. We may have failed today but we'll learn from this. We'll get better. Officer Patrick Bonanno has been nominated for a full commendation, I'll second that and ensure that he or his wife gets his full pension regardless of how he turns out in the end. He's a damn fine officer. Officer Jeffery Balcerzak is also to be nominated for a full commendation and after his medical leave will be reinstated to his position once medically cleared. He has also been explicitly banned from using the term copulating in an incident report every again.
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Morbidity and Mortality Report as logged by Doctor Beverly Picardo, Emergency Medical Surgeon
We failed today. While some of over patients were saved and might even have full and fulfilling lives, too many have been cut short or drastically altered by today's events. Those mindless Sons of Humanity just opened fire on a crowd, no regard for the life gathered there. In terms of civilians I've had three dozen patients with minor injuries ranging from crushed limbs and bruising to superficial burns. There is a further ten with serious complications going from shattered bones to ruptured organs and deep burns to over fifty percent of their body. Finally I've got four civilian patients in the ICU. One with plasma burns to eighty five percent of his body, another with a completely crushed chest and partially collapsed skull, a third dealing with third degree burns and a punctured lung and the final one is a Bochdew on respiratory support after he seized curing a panic attack. His suits life support systems automatically piloted him here and I've called in a specialist to advise on his physiology and engineering has assured me they've modified the ventilator correctly. But that's just the civilians, I've also got military, security and hostile patients.
Chief Auberjonois is the simplest patient from a medical point of view. She has a pair of fractured ankles, nothing that some simple surgery can't fix but she's being a stubborn patient and has turned her room into a crisis centre declaring that "She can just walk off injury". No. She cannot "walk" off a pair of broken ankles. That's not how medical science works. Officer Balcerzak has come in with a variety of fractures, breaks and wounds. The most notable is the loss of his arm but a mechanical prosthesis is being fitted for him at the departments expense. His partner Officer Bonanno is in the ICU, we've had to induce a medical coma. Its doubtful he'll ever come out of it. The wounds to his skull are too extensive for us to recover. Ironically he's next to the man who caused his wounds, also in an induced coma he's unlikely to come out of. Despite that, and my objections, the patient is handcuffed his bed. He's clearly an extensive kamikaze user judging by how weak his heart is, and the copious amounts of stun charges the officers deployed into him have pushed him to the edge. It didn't help that when he came in he was shouting racial slurs about the Bochdew "overlords" and we had to apply some of the strongest sedatives we had to counter the Kamikaze. Even if he was to recover from his injuries, his kneecaps have been completely shattered to the point where its doubtful he'd ever walk again without mechanical assistance.
Finally I have eight "Sons of Humanity" patients. These are being kept under strict guard and observation. Most of their wounds are thankfully minor, pretty much broken bones and extensive and don't required extensive or invasive treatment, the crowd saw these eight firing on the stage and decided to mob them. Seven men against fifty or so terrifed and angry people, there was no chance for them. There is one in the ICU after his plasma gun exploded in his face, he'll survive but the burns on his face are extensive and will require years worth of skin grafts. All in all of the sixty two patients admitted to the hospital today, twenty six are in serious condition requiring surgery. That's not good enough. I've failed my patients if that's the best I've got to give them. Tomorrow I'm beginning a more severe triage on those twenty six in an attempt to get at least half of those numbers out of critical care and into the wards. I also aim to get half of the remaining into rehabilitation and out of the hospital. I may have failed my patients today, I wasn't a good enough surgeon to help them but I will ensure they have their needs meet tomorrow.
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Diplomatic Cable To The Bochdew Home World of Cartref by Ambassador Yr'un'mwyaf'ciwt
I have just witnessed what can only be called a miracle of success. These humans are amazing creatures and despite my near death experience today I can only sing their praises. It was supposed to be a routine photo shoot, a fluff piece showing us and the humans shaking hands and laughing to announce the signing of the new trade treaty between our peoples. Bochdew mechanical designs in return for human star ship engines. While the Bochdew may be able to build our suits like no other race can, our star ship engines are rated the slowest in the galaxy but hopefully this deal with the humans will change that. We assembled just outside the embassy building when explosions rocked the entrance to the plaza and sixteen humans wearing combat armour leaping down from the Embassy walls. A full five hundred traed, or in human measurements twenty metres, down to the floor and stand up unharmed. I heard the humans Head Diogelwch yell at her subordinates to "protect the damned hamsters" and shield us from the attack. The humans who had jumped from the wall then began firing plasma blasts at us, my suits defence kicked in and erected a level 1 energy barrier as per protocols. The humans didn't have any such protection but none the less their Head Diogelwch was pointing and yelling into her communication device. Every time she pointed, one of the humans shooting at us stopped.
It took her less than a munud to clear those that jumped from the wall, she looked magnificent doing so. I can't help but envy the form of the humans, sheer grace and fluidity despite their bulky and unorganised nature. Their Head Diogelwch was about to speak to me when another volley of plasma fire hit us, one of my aides seized and his suit went into life support mode and took off running for a medical facility. Unfortunately he took off through one of the humans and severely injured him, I have made available all the resources we have to make amends for this injury. I thought the humans were done for but at the stage we were standing on full out from under us and we full through to safety. Their Chief Peiriannydd had apparently loosened the supports and collapsed the stage inwards to protect us. A few of the humans were hurt, I moved to assist but their Head Diogelwch told me "I don't need no help, I can walk this off" and that my "hamstercan" would crush her at this point. I am amazed by how resilient humans are but confused by their terminology.
Were this the only miracle of humans I had witnesses today, I would be happy pushing for closer diplomatic ties with them, but I have seen more of the humans. After the attack we were ushered to a medical facility to ensure that we were not wounded. They have Bochdew doctors here! They call them veterinarians, and odd title for a doctor but apparently he specialises in non-human treatment. My aide was being looked after him. As I looked around the facility, I marvelled at their medical technology. Wounds and treatments that would kill a thousand Bochdew are being reversed here. Apart from the sixteen humans from the wall, no one else died today! Not one! A seemingly impossible feat which I have been told is the norm around here. Although I worry about their Chief Peiriannydd. Apparently he sent a letter to the Head Diogelwch which caused her to send guardsmen after him. She was shouting down the hallway "If that thrice damned fool thinks he is responsible for this mess, you tell him that I will hound his ass across every moon of Jupiter and drag him back here kicking and screaming just to beat that idea out of him".
These humans are amazing. My only worry is that I have no idea how we'll match up to the standard they set. We Bochdew are diligent and studious workers but these humans stride through plasma fire with no shields, leap off the tallest buildings with no fear and turn back the tide of death like it was nothing. I don't know if we're good enough to stand beside such beings, but tomorrow I hope we will be
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We failed today. The fascists stopped us. We could have saved humanity today, but instead we must go another day under the boots of our alien overlords. My men fought bravely but were overcome. Perhaps there is a traitor amongst my ranks, I must ask Benedicts to investigate for I have no more loyal a man than he. The plan we had in place was almost foolproof. As the diplomatic core and the aliens posed for the cameras, a stupid fascist propaganda op, Alpha team set off the charges and Beta team mounted the wall and opened fire on the diplomats and aliens. Both of these serving distractions for the Gamma team. Gamma providing a getaway vehicle for Alpha and was to rendezvous after the attack was complete. Except the attack went completely sideways from the get go.
The charges went off as planned, but Beta team was slow getting over the wall and the fascists local boot stompers had time to respond to them. Alpha team fell back to the prearranged pick up point to find that Gamma had just disappeared, no sign of him. To their credit, Alpha team then decided to not be captured and instead joined in firing on the crowd with Beta team. This would have provided an overwhelming amount of firepower but the Bochdew scum deployed a seismic charge and disappeared underneath the stage.
We failed today. We failed spectacularly. But tomorrow, we will be better. We know the capabilities of the enemy even better now and their allies. Without this we would have never known that the Bochdew's tactical response. Just another point towards our alien "friends" really being our conquerors. If only the world could see it. Today we weren't good enough. Tomorrow we will be.
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Daily Log Of Renee Auberjonois, Station Security Chief
We failed today. We may have salvaged the situation and saved the diplomats but it was too close a thing to call a success. Today never should have happened. Too many security slip ups, slow response times and too much reliance on luck. A competent enemy would have overwhelmed us, but thankfully for us it was those ridiculous Sons Of Humanity. The so called saviours of Humanity have this ridiculous idea that just because we don't want to blow up everything that isn't human means we've become a dictatorial regime hellbent to please our alien overlords. Its crap. The Bochdew aren't even militaristic, they're bloody pacifists. Can't blame them their when you're that small and hunted by literally everything on your home world. Forget fighting, just run and hide. Still their suits are something wondrous, security nightmare but they look fantastic. How did something seven inches tall build a five foot tall mechanised mobility suit as graceful as they are with a fuel efficient rating that puts most grand touring cars an- I'm rambling aren't I?
Back to today's failure. The Sons Of Humanity have a slightly different name amongst my security personnel, the Minutemen, because a minute is about how much fight they have in them. But the damage they can do in that minute is shocking. I have no idea how they managed to get the explosives past our checks, but they had placed them at crowd choke points. While their discipline and morale are lacking, I can't fault them for their tactical planning. When the first explosions went off, I immediately covered the diplomats and the Bochdew deployed shields. They may have no offensive weapons but I swear their shields could hold of a planetary barrage. It was a wise move as ten seconds after the explosions the Minutemen opened fired on us. Seemed like a good dozen or so with their stylised plasma muskets. I've confiscated a enough of them to know that they're not muskets, but really plasma launchers using converted plasma batteries as ammo. Cheap and easy to obtain, downside is that if you skimp on the battery conversion you get less a projectile and more a plasma bomb.
The crowd responded predictably and started to scramble, giving further cover to the shooters. I got on the radio and called out enemy position as I saw them. Our snipers accuracy was below their usual average, I'll have to schedule more target practice for them. Just as the first group of shooters were painted, the second lot were upon us. I covered the diplomats as best I could. Thankfully I got very lucky. The stage gave way and the diplomats, the Bochdew, a few of the security guards and myself fell through the stage and out of the line of fire. I broke my legs in the fall but walked it off. The Bochdew diplomat tried to help, but to be honest the strength of his suit would have crushed me so I turned him down. But still...
We failed today. There were too many slip ups and we only saved the principles by sheer luck. I've scheduled a full security overview and extra training sessions for all departments. We weren't good enough today but I promise it won't happen again
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Letter Of Resignation by Chief Engineer Dell Conagher
We failed today and its my fault. All those people hurt, all that death and destruction, that's on me. Those sons of whores manged to beat me on my station and set off explosives without any of my boys getting wind of them until it was far too late. I have no doubt that Auberjonois is going to be calling for my head after my screw up so I'm beating her to the punch. I set up the security sniffers as she ordered, they were some of my best designs. Or at least I thought they were. Some of the best sniffer sensors built around a photonic core charge pack and anti-grav ion thrusters. Small, manoeuvrable and should be able to find anything explosive, flammable, or acidic within four hundred meters and I had a dozen of these buggers that could last for forty years before needing to be recharged. More than enough to cover the square, the photo op and the area beyond. Yet these bastards fooled them. No, not them. The scanners worked fine, they fooled me.
Just before the start of the photo op one of the sniffers picked up an anomalous reading. It was coming from the entrance to the square, I tasked the drone to investigate further and found that the reading was coming from a trash can. The reading was detecting something it called anomalously acidic, or to translate from Engineer-speak, something in there could burn a humans arm off. Now little known fact about the garbage in the station is that all the garbage cans have acid in the base of them. You throw something out and then the bin dumps it in acid destroying it and removing ninety percent of the waste we create. I saw the sniffer droid look at the bin, I saw the reading and thought I knew immediately what had happened. I flagged it as a false positive and told the sniffer to move on.
Obviously I now know that it was not the regular acid they were detecting but rather the first part of a binary explosive. I'll give the Sons Of Humanity credit on this, it was a damn clever plan. Acids create a lot of hydrogen when they break something down, you add a substance that produces a lot of hydrogen into acid, have it break it down while you turn up the heat and you'll get one hell of an explosion. Better than mining charges and almost undetectable unless someone has the presence of mind to think to look for your acid. Which I did not. My failure in judgement caused all of this, if I had caught the explosives none of this would have happened. Hopefully the next chief will be good enough. I wasn't.
Signed,
Former Chief Engineer Dell Conagher
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Traffic Incident Report #91-C-1121 by Officer Jeffery Balcerzak
Subject: White human male, late thirties to mid forties wearing combat fatigues and a Sons Of Humanity t-shirt, stained with ketchup, driving an illegally modified anti gravity black and red garbage disposal ground transport.
Condition: Human subject is in critical condition, comatose. Ground transport is detained
Offences: One count: Illegally modifying ground transport, Illegally obtaining a ground transport, Being in possession of forged documents, assaulting a police officer, illicit drug use. Five Counts: Illegal weapons possession, endangering the station. Thirty One Counts: Inappropriate language (Racial slur)
Incident: Officer's Balcerzak and Bonanno were overseeing transportation of station equipment when they noticed a suspicious vehicle parked nearby. Upon approaching the vehicle, the driver began shouting anti-alien slogans and took the illegal substance known as Kamikaze. Upon the drug taking effect the driver charged the officers with a home made vibration axe. Officer Balcerzak drew and discharged his pacification sidearm into the driver's chest five times to no effect. Officer Bonanno followed with his own pacification sidearm volley of six rounds to the drivers chest to no effect. Officer Bonanno then engaged in close quarters combat with the driver holding him in place while Officer Balcerzak discharged a further five pacification rounds into the driver's head. This was enough to pacify the driver and eventually detain him for medical treatment. The driver has been sent to a local medical treatment facility to recover from his injuries and drug use. Upon searching the drivers vehicle, multiple modified plasma rifles and fake identification chips identifying the driver as "Bruce Wayne", "Clark Kent" and "George Washington". The vehicle had been modified to accept user input and ignore the stations VI command nodes.
Injuries: Officer Balcerzak has suffered injuries too numerous to list here. Officer Bonanno has suffered two broken arms and a fractured skull. Driver has suffered multiple strokes, several broken and shattered ribs, a fractured skull, and two shattered knee caps.
Officer Comments: We failed today. This entire stop was a copulating mother of a mess. But we failed even before today, and you want to know why? Why in the name of all that is holy and right do we have a god damn donkey copulating traffic incident report form on a space station! What traffic do we have except for the AI controlled ground transports. The mere fact that this form exists on this station is proof that we royally copulated the pooch when designing the guidance system on those things. If someone had done their job properly this never would have happened. But instead, we find out that these transports can be hijacked by the damn Minutemen. Racists with barely enough brain power to lift a rifle are able to reprogram these things, if that's not failure I don't know what is.
I don't know what else to say about how bad today was from an officer's point of view. Pat and I had to take down a roiding psychopath with nothing but P-rounds. The much-vaunted copulating taser rounds didn't do a damn thing to the guy. I had to put a half dozen rounds in the guys face just to get him slow down enough just to arrest him. When Pat and I get back to active duty words will need to be had about our arsenal. If we had known about this before hand, then maybe we could have been prepared, but nobody informed us about the fact that the ground transports could be used like this. About from command's general incompetence, I'd like to nominate Officer Patrick Bonanno for a full commendation for services render in the line of duty. He went above and beyond and wrestled a mother copulating bear of a man to the ground. He deserves a full commendation. I wasn't good enough of a partner for him today, but I won't let him down again.
Supervisors Comments: We failed our officers today. Its true, we dropped the ball on intel, on preparedness and on basic supplies. We didn't inform our officers of the danger presented, didn't prep them on how to deal with an illicit drug like Kamikaze and didn't issue them the right equipment to deal with anything like they had today. Yet they got the job done. We may have failed today but we'll learn from this. We'll get better. Officer Patrick Bonanno has been nominated for a full commendation, I'll second that and ensure that he or his wife gets his full pension regardless of how he turns out in the end. He's a damn fine officer. Officer Jeffery Balcerzak is also to be nominated for a full commendation and after his medical leave will be reinstated to his position once medically cleared. He has also been explicitly banned from using the term copulating in an incident report every again.
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Morbidity and Mortality Report as logged by Doctor Beverly Picardo, Emergency Medical Surgeon
We failed today. While some of over patients were saved and might even have full and fulfilling lives, too many have been cut short or drastically altered by today's events. Those mindless Sons of Humanity just opened fire on a crowd, no regard for the life gathered there. In terms of civilians I've had three dozen patients with minor injuries ranging from crushed limbs and bruising to superficial burns. There is a further ten with serious complications going from shattered bones to ruptured organs and deep burns to over fifty percent of their body. Finally I've got four civilian patients in the ICU. One with plasma burns to eighty five percent of his body, another with a completely crushed chest and partially collapsed skull, a third dealing with third degree burns and a punctured lung and the final one is a Bochdew on respiratory support after he seized curing a panic attack. His suits life support systems automatically piloted him here and I've called in a specialist to advise on his physiology and engineering has assured me they've modified the ventilator correctly. But that's just the civilians, I've also got military, security and hostile patients.
Chief Auberjonois is the simplest patient from a medical point of view. She has a pair of fractured ankles, nothing that some simple surgery can't fix but she's being a stubborn patient and has turned her room into a crisis centre declaring that "She can just walk off injury". No. She cannot "walk" off a pair of broken ankles. That's not how medical science works. Officer Balcerzak has come in with a variety of fractures, breaks and wounds. The most notable is the loss of his arm but a mechanical prosthesis is being fitted for him at the departments expense. His partner Officer Bonanno is in the ICU, we've had to induce a medical coma. Its doubtful he'll ever come out of it. The wounds to his skull are too extensive for us to recover. Ironically he's next to the man who caused his wounds, also in an induced coma he's unlikely to come out of. Despite that, and my objections, the patient is handcuffed his bed. He's clearly an extensive kamikaze user judging by how weak his heart is, and the copious amounts of stun charges the officers deployed into him have pushed him to the edge. It didn't help that when he came in he was shouting racial slurs about the Bochdew "overlords" and we had to apply some of the strongest sedatives we had to counter the Kamikaze. Even if he was to recover from his injuries, his kneecaps have been completely shattered to the point where its doubtful he'd ever walk again without mechanical assistance.
Finally I have eight "Sons of Humanity" patients. These are being kept under strict guard and observation. Most of their wounds are thankfully minor, pretty much broken bones and extensive and don't required extensive or invasive treatment, the crowd saw these eight firing on the stage and decided to mob them. Seven men against fifty or so terrifed and angry people, there was no chance for them. There is one in the ICU after his plasma gun exploded in his face, he'll survive but the burns on his face are extensive and will require years worth of skin grafts. All in all of the sixty two patients admitted to the hospital today, twenty six are in serious condition requiring surgery. That's not good enough. I've failed my patients if that's the best I've got to give them. Tomorrow I'm beginning a more severe triage on those twenty six in an attempt to get at least half of those numbers out of critical care and into the wards. I also aim to get half of the remaining into rehabilitation and out of the hospital. I may have failed my patients today, I wasn't a good enough surgeon to help them but I will ensure they have their needs meet tomorrow.
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Diplomatic Cable To The Bochdew Home World of Cartref by Ambassador Yr'un'mwyaf'ciwt
I have just witnessed what can only be called a miracle of success. These humans are amazing creatures and despite my near death experience today I can only sing their praises. It was supposed to be a routine photo shoot, a fluff piece showing us and the humans shaking hands and laughing to announce the signing of the new trade treaty between our peoples. Bochdew mechanical designs in return for human star ship engines. While the Bochdew may be able to build our suits like no other race can, our star ship engines are rated the slowest in the galaxy but hopefully this deal with the humans will change that. We assembled just outside the embassy building when explosions rocked the entrance to the plaza and sixteen humans wearing combat armour leaping down from the Embassy walls. A full five hundred traed, or in human measurements twenty metres, down to the floor and stand up unharmed. I heard the humans Head Diogelwch yell at her subordinates to "protect the damned hamsters" and shield us from the attack. The humans who had jumped from the wall then began firing plasma blasts at us, my suits defence kicked in and erected a level 1 energy barrier as per protocols. The humans didn't have any such protection but none the less their Head Diogelwch was pointing and yelling into her communication device. Every time she pointed, one of the humans shooting at us stopped.
It took her less than a munud to clear those that jumped from the wall, she looked magnificent doing so. I can't help but envy the form of the humans, sheer grace and fluidity despite their bulky and unorganised nature. Their Head Diogelwch was about to speak to me when another volley of plasma fire hit us, one of my aides seized and his suit went into life support mode and took off running for a medical facility. Unfortunately he took off through one of the humans and severely injured him, I have made available all the resources we have to make amends for this injury. I thought the humans were done for but at the stage we were standing on full out from under us and we full through to safety. Their Chief Peiriannydd had apparently loosened the supports and collapsed the stage inwards to protect us. A few of the humans were hurt, I moved to assist but their Head Diogelwch told me "I don't need no help, I can walk this off" and that my "hamstercan" would crush her at this point. I am amazed by how resilient humans are but confused by their terminology.
Were this the only miracle of humans I had witnesses today, I would be happy pushing for closer diplomatic ties with them, but I have seen more of the humans. After the attack we were ushered to a medical facility to ensure that we were not wounded. They have Bochdew doctors here! They call them veterinarians, and odd title for a doctor but apparently he specialises in non-human treatment. My aide was being looked after him. As I looked around the facility, I marvelled at their medical technology. Wounds and treatments that would kill a thousand Bochdew are being reversed here. Apart from the sixteen humans from the wall, no one else died today! Not one! A seemingly impossible feat which I have been told is the norm around here. Although I worry about their Chief Peiriannydd. Apparently he sent a letter to the Head Diogelwch which caused her to send guardsmen after him. She was shouting down the hallway "If that thrice damned fool thinks he is responsible for this mess, you tell him that I will hound his ass across every moon of Jupiter and drag him back here kicking and screaming just to beat that idea out of him".
These humans are amazing. My only worry is that I have no idea how we'll match up to the standard they set. We Bochdew are diligent and studious workers but these humans stride through plasma fire with no shields, leap off the tallest buildings with no fear and turn back the tide of death like it was nothing. I don't know if we're good enough to stand beside such beings, but tomorrow I hope we will be
2022.04.15 14:13 Dazzling_Obligation Were we happy in the 90s?
"BACK THERE WERE TIMES ..." - WE REMEMBER WITH NOSTALGIA, COLORFUL 90s. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THOUGHT WHY THE 90s ARE SO WELL-FRIENDLY TO US?
The good old 90s. Flavored with Bambino ice cream and Turbo gum. With stamps filled with Sailor Moon cards. He flies with a Pegasus joystick in his hand. He flies with Walkman headphones on his ears and the First Communion tower on the wall unit. It flies in the warmth of the sun, with the wind in your hair. In constant pursuit of the ball, which inevitably landed at the furious neighbor.
I always had torn knees and elbows. I have had extreme accidents on the fold. I used to come home for medical and psychological consultations, and my parents sanitized my injuries with hydrogen peroxide. With tears in my eyes, I gritted my teeth and learned to be tough. So now I sit and drink hot cocoa, remembering those times. A feeling of longing and joy arises in me that I could experience all these adventures.
You know what? I even turned on a compilation from the 90s on Spotify. Do you know what the first song came on?
What the hell! You will suffer with me - let go of this number.
"90's." - for this slogan every one million twenty-five associations are born in the head. These are mostly fond memories or a sigh - “it used to be easier, we were happy”.
And it is precisely this happiness of the past years that I would like to talk to you about.
We mainly associate iconic items with the 90s. They bring to mind the most specific memories.
A while ago I was playing Pegasus in Ninja Turtles (my favorite was Donatello because it was purple). I noticed that it practically did not amuse me at all. Only when I was playing with others did it get interesting.
Imagine having a choice of plain ice lolly and McFlurry from Mcdonald's. Of course, the McFlurry will be tastier. Imagine having a choice of orangeade in a white glass bottle for 40 cents and excellent wine from Tuscany. The choice is obvious - today you will choose the wine, not only because you are 18 years of age or older. You just can afford it.
And yet it is Turbo gum, orangeade for 40 cents, and warm ice cream that evoke very strong associations. It is not their value or taste that matters, but the context with which they are related. Usually, this orangeade was drunk with friends, biting with clubs, and in "Ninja Turtles" you played with your brother. It is the fact that we have shared experiences with others that make them so valuable.
Back then, these items did not matter much. The fact that they gave us so much joy is the result of the experiences we experienced when we used them.
So you will ask:
What was it about those old years that attract us today?
Is it just plain nostalgia for a carefree time? We didn't have to be responsible, because then my parents took care of everything ...
Is it really a lack of responsibility? I do not think so. After all, responsibility is still being pursued today. People who take managerial positions, parents, coaches - after all, they are responsible for others. Often even proud. So we do not shy away from responsibility. After all, you want to be promoted yourself, do your own businesses, give birth to children - you accept more and more responsibility. Nobody is forcing you. So there is no point in sighing for this lack of responsibility from childhood because it is only an illusion.
"We had a little more exclusivity"
So I think we are approaching the most subcutaneous layers. We miss genuine closeness to other people and this exclusive atmosphere. We had a little more exclusivity. Our meetings were not disturbed by the beeping telephone, and the voice of my mother calling for dinner did not have GPS coverage. Our experiences were more saturated and more contrasting - expressive.
As children, we didn't have much - a few pennies for ice cream, maybe a few toys, and a bicycle. But each day was rich in new experiences. Everything was new and exciting. Each exit to the yard was an adventure. We had energy, some time, and the willingness to act. We were not afraid to try new things.
With time, we grow up and forget about this childhood excitement, because society requires us to be those sad clones, reflected from a template under the name of "adulthood". In our head, the flick switches from "being" to "having". We want husbands and wives, we want houses, we want cars, a lot of money, and a great job. And how often do we ask ourselves "who do we want to be?"
“If I have such and such a husband, I will be happy”, “if I have this job, I will be happy”, “if I have such a car, I will be happy”. I do not want to make mystical considerations about materialism here, but you will not be happy with things and people.
It's about experiencing. Looking at some period of our life we say - "yes then, I was happy". We generalize this state as much as possible. This is because the accumulation of these happy micro-moments was very high back then. This is probably how the cliché "happiness lasts only a few moments" was born. It may be a truism, but there is something to it. After all, 24/7 you don't experience the feeling of happiness. You are a little hungry, a little happy, you are a little worried, you are a little waiting, and you are a little thoughtful. And happy? Only sometimes.
The 90s was also a time when we could have fun. Do not worry that it is not appropriate - children do. This freedom allowed us to take full advantage of these happy moments. Today, when someone is having a good time and we don't understand it, we consider him a fool.
If we translate the features of children's behavior into our contemporary reality, I am sure that the joy of the 90s will appear also today.
So what are we missing?
And what do you think? How to ditch this joy from the '90s?
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The good old 90s. Flavored with Bambino ice cream and Turbo gum. With stamps filled with Sailor Moon cards. He flies with a Pegasus joystick in his hand. He flies with Walkman headphones on his ears and the First Communion tower on the wall unit. It flies in the warmth of the sun, with the wind in your hair. In constant pursuit of the ball, which inevitably landed at the furious neighbor.
I always had torn knees and elbows. I have had extreme accidents on the fold. I used to come home for medical and psychological consultations, and my parents sanitized my injuries with hydrogen peroxide. With tears in my eyes, I gritted my teeth and learned to be tough. So now I sit and drink hot cocoa, remembering those times. A feeling of longing and joy arises in me that I could experience all these adventures.
You know what? I even turned on a compilation from the 90s on Spotify. Do you know what the first song came on?
What the hell! You will suffer with me - let go of this number.
"90's." - for this slogan every one million twenty-five associations are born in the head. These are mostly fond memories or a sigh - “it used to be easier, we were happy”.
And it is precisely this happiness of the past years that I would like to talk to you about.
We mainly associate iconic items with the 90s. They bring to mind the most specific memories.
A while ago I was playing Pegasus in Ninja Turtles (my favorite was Donatello because it was purple). I noticed that it practically did not amuse me at all. Only when I was playing with others did it get interesting.
Imagine having a choice of plain ice lolly and McFlurry from Mcdonald's. Of course, the McFlurry will be tastier. Imagine having a choice of orangeade in a white glass bottle for 40 cents and excellent wine from Tuscany. The choice is obvious - today you will choose the wine, not only because you are 18 years of age or older. You just can afford it.
And yet it is Turbo gum, orangeade for 40 cents, and warm ice cream that evoke very strong associations. It is not their value or taste that matters, but the context with which they are related. Usually, this orangeade was drunk with friends, biting with clubs, and in "Ninja Turtles" you played with your brother. It is the fact that we have shared experiences with others that make them so valuable.
Back then, these items did not matter much. The fact that they gave us so much joy is the result of the experiences we experienced when we used them.
So you will ask:
What was it about those old years that attract us today?
Is it just plain nostalgia for a carefree time? We didn't have to be responsible, because then my parents took care of everything ...
Is it really a lack of responsibility? I do not think so. After all, responsibility is still being pursued today. People who take managerial positions, parents, coaches - after all, they are responsible for others. Often even proud. So we do not shy away from responsibility. After all, you want to be promoted yourself, do your own businesses, give birth to children - you accept more and more responsibility. Nobody is forcing you. So there is no point in sighing for this lack of responsibility from childhood because it is only an illusion.
"We had a little more exclusivity"
So I think we are approaching the most subcutaneous layers. We miss genuine closeness to other people and this exclusive atmosphere. We had a little more exclusivity. Our meetings were not disturbed by the beeping telephone, and the voice of my mother calling for dinner did not have GPS coverage. Our experiences were more saturated and more contrasting - expressive.
As children, we didn't have much - a few pennies for ice cream, maybe a few toys, and a bicycle. But each day was rich in new experiences. Everything was new and exciting. Each exit to the yard was an adventure. We had energy, some time, and the willingness to act. We were not afraid to try new things.
With time, we grow up and forget about this childhood excitement, because society requires us to be those sad clones, reflected from a template under the name of "adulthood". In our head, the flick switches from "being" to "having". We want husbands and wives, we want houses, we want cars, a lot of money, and a great job. And how often do we ask ourselves "who do we want to be?"
“If I have such and such a husband, I will be happy”, “if I have this job, I will be happy”, “if I have such a car, I will be happy”. I do not want to make mystical considerations about materialism here, but you will not be happy with things and people.
It's about experiencing. Looking at some period of our life we say - "yes then, I was happy". We generalize this state as much as possible. This is because the accumulation of these happy micro-moments was very high back then. This is probably how the cliché "happiness lasts only a few moments" was born. It may be a truism, but there is something to it. After all, 24/7 you don't experience the feeling of happiness. You are a little hungry, a little happy, you are a little worried, you are a little waiting, and you are a little thoughtful. And happy? Only sometimes.
The 90s was also a time when we could have fun. Do not worry that it is not appropriate - children do. This freedom allowed us to take full advantage of these happy moments. Today, when someone is having a good time and we don't understand it, we consider him a fool.
If we translate the features of children's behavior into our contemporary reality, I am sure that the joy of the 90s will appear also today.
So what are we missing?
- curiosity about the world
- willingness to try new things
- openness
- ignoring stereotypes
- willingness to have fun together
- joy from shared moments
- enjoying the little things
- honesty
- simplicity in expressing emotions
And what do you think? How to ditch this joy from the '90s?
2022.04.03 23:58 boskee Auschwitz Museum Director: If you don't die for Kyiv now, you will have to die for Gdańsk later
- World War 3 is possible. For God's sake, it is possible. If we honestly create a spectrum of possibilities, it must be comprehensive - even with extremes, which would be global conflict and nuclear conflict," says Piotr Cywiński, director of the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum, in an interview with Gazeta.pl.Source (in Polish): https://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114883,28220695,piotr-cywinski-jesli-teraz-nie-bedzie-sie-umieralo-za-kijow.html
Jacek Gądek: - Do you see the beginning of genocide?
Piotr Cywiński: - Undoubtedly, we see the monstrous war crimes of Russia. Genocide - and this is a term which is rooted in the historical and legal order - would involve the murder of every Ukrainian simply because they are Ukrainian. So Russia's criminal war fortunately does not yet exhaust the definition of genocide. Overnight, however, things could turn into something now unimaginable.
The Russians are bombing and shelling schools, houses, blocks of flats, kindergartens, hospitals ...- ...and columns of refugees. They are killing mothers with children. Russian soldiers murder civilians on orders - in bombings, in rocket fire. These are war crimes.
Are these images as if from the Second World War?
- Of course they are. People who fled from the first cities bombed by the Luftwaffe were shelled by German aircraft.
Yet Vladimir Putin says that there is "Nazism" in Ukraine and he wants to "denazify" it. You know the essence of Nazism. Is it in Ukraine?
- Nazism is everywhere in the world, but counted in promilles. What disturbs me about this rhetoric about fighting Nazism is that, in general, when Russia has fought right-wing extremism, it has called it "fascism" and not "Nazism". Putin himself, however, is using overtly fascist formations in this war, such as the Vagner militia - people who tattoo themselves with swastikas, runes and SS symbols. It is also worth remembering that Putin is influenced by thinkers - I won't call them philosophers or even give their names so as not to promote these personalities - who openly promote fascism.
Whoever Putin fights, he accuses the Ukrainians of genocide in the Donbass. Sounds absurd?
- It leads us to believe that Putin feels weak and insecure. The aggressiveness of this propaganda, blatant, absurdly strong betrays fear. Just as Putin's fear is evidenced by his decree of a 15-year prison sentence for telling the truth about the war. I am inclined to agree with commentators who say that we are watching the end of a tyrant.
However, the end can last for long years?
- It can last a long time and it can also be bloody. So I understand the strategy whereby the western world is trying to convince his entourage that the continuation of the tyrant is not worth it to them. I think everyone is hoping that there will be a palace coup. Certainly many of his closest associates are beginning to lose too much.
- I am not counting on any grassroots, civil revolution in Russia.
Because ordinary Russians watch TV and absorb propaganda and in effect support Putin?
- It would be good if the same thing happened in Russia as happened in Poland in the 1980s, when people no longer believed in television. Back then, when Jerzy Urban said that oranges were coming to Gdańsk, everyone knew that there would be no oranges. I hope that one day the Russians will decipher the Kremlin's aggressive propaganda and stop believing in it. But this is a long-term process.
Before the Second World War, the German media were also - like the Russian media nowadays - driven by war?
- Yes, and there were in the German media all manners of dehumanising the enemy. The Third Reich took the enemy out of human categories. In Russia we have this too: Putin and his propaganda call Ukrainians "Nazis", "drug addicts", and in the case of German propaganda the enemies were, for example, "rats" and a threat to the race. The attempt to dehumanise the victim is just as it was before the Second World War.
- The difference is that Russian rhetoric focuses on the fight against mythical "Nazis" and "drug addicts", but Putin keeps claiming that he wants to liberate Ukrainians, not exterminate them.
The Ukrainian nation, however, according to him, does not exist. Just as the Ukrainian state has no right to exist.
- This is dehumanisation and denial of the right to exist as in the Third Reich. Putin, however, has not yet given the order to kill all Ukrainians, although he has given permission to kill civilians.
Do you see a similarity between the beginning of World War II and the current war in Ukraine?
- Rather a difference. Adolf Hitler, however, controlled the situation at the beginning and had a fairly accurate assessment of reality. And now the aggressor - Putin - has neither control nor a sober assessment. Today I see an old man who has been lied to for years out of fear by everyone about the power of the Russian army and the weakness of Ukraine, and he, convinced of the truth of this lie, has ordered the conquest of Ukraine. In fact, both the aim and the strategy to achieve it seem to have been misguided. At the same time, Russian propaganda directed outward - to the world - has proved dramatically ineffective.
- Until now, many commentators have regarded Russia as a disinformation power in the world. The Russians were thought to be able to influence elections in various countries. And now? Their failure in message is greater than on the battlefield.
Ukraine is winning in Western perception, but the Russian version is already triumphing among Russians.
- So that the Kremlin does not lose in Russia in propaganda terms, Putin has had to cut off all information from the world, and he is threatened with 15 years in prison for telling the truth about the war. This is also a measure of this failure.
Putin: "Attempts are underway to destroy our traditional values and to impose their pseudo-values on us, which corrode us, our people from within. The same attitudes that they are already aggressively spreading in their countries, which leads to degradation and degeneration because it goes against the very nature of man." It follows that Putin is supposedly fighting for humanity?
- This is obviously a lie. In such words one can hear the influence of thinkers - again, I deliberately do not mention names - in whom Putin is enamoured. They promote a vision of a white, pure holy Rassiya, threatened from outside by a dark and corrupt world - the West. Books with this vision are ordered by the Kremlin to be published and promoted, and the Russian elite read them. It is a Manichean image with a messianic Russia. This is nothing new, as many movements had a similar vision - for example, the Legion of Michael the Archangel in Romania before World War II. In Russia, however, it has become a state ideology.
Russkij mir is the new Lebensraum?
- That is an imperfect comparison. Lebensraum would be an apt analogy if the beginnings of the great Germania were in Krakow or Lviv. The Russians, by the way, are not talking about the need for a new living space, but are trying to present Ukraine as something identical to Russia, but in need of purification.
- It is important to remember that Russia's roots are not in Moscow or St Petersburg, but in Kiev. Kiev is the mythical cradle of Russia - our Gniezno. It is difficult for the Kremlin to say 'we will destroy Ukraine', because that would be contrary to the myth it is creating, and leaders need myths for propaganda. The myth is simply to persuade a soldier to fight and be prepared to die. You cannot give a soldier a lecture on the history of political thought, but sell him a myth in a few sentences, so that he believes in it and has the conviction of what he is fighting for and perhaps will die for. The Russians have not succeeded in this either, as can be seen from the low mobilisation of their own troops, let alone those of Belarus. Nevertheless, they are still trying to push this myth of a cleansed Ukraine and the return of Kiev to the bosom of Rassiya onto the public.
World War III?
- World War III is possible. For God's sake, it is possible. If you honestly create a spectrum of possibilities, it has to be holistic - even with the extremes of what would be global conflict and nuclear conflict. I see no reason why the outbreak of a new world war can be rejected with absolute certainty. But developments in this worst direction would undermine the interests of the world powers. A world conflict would also be deadly for Russia itself, so the Kremlin elite would be better off staging a palace coup - putting all the blame on Putin, even delivering him to The Hague - so as to whitewash themselves and continue to rule Russia. In view of the fierce defence of the Ukrainians and the tough sanctions from the West, this war can in no way be profitable for Russia and its elite.
Is there wishful thinking in your words?
- Looking at history and the bizarreness of Putin's behaviour - morbidly keeping his distance from everyone and isolated - one might think that he is convinced that a palace coup is a real threat to him. He must be all the more afraid of his own entourage the more his war is bogged down. He treats his associates in a ridiculing and degrading manner, and that is a trait of people in a panic.
- Let us remember: this is Russia. What seems improbable in Western European circles, because we can only refer to some insane assassination attempts, is normal in Russia. Tsars and Communist notables such as Lavrientij Beria have died at the hands of conspirators. Palace coups have a tradition in Russia.
According to Putin, Russia must not repeat the mistakes made by the USSR at the start of the Second World War, when - according to him - Stalin delayed too long in repelling the attack by Nazi Germany. Is there a shred of truth in this?
- In my opinion it is a mistake to look for logic and coherence in Putin's rhetoric today. Putin, by the way, is not even thinking of World War II, but of the Great Patriotic War. The Second War began on 1 September 1939 with Adolf Hitler's invasion of Poland, and immediately afterwards there was also the USSR's invasion from the east. In his rhetoric, Putin does not refer to 1 or 17 September, but only to 1941, because this allows him to speak of a Russia that is being attacked, and not one that is carrying out the aggression itself.
- Today, everyone can see that Ukraine is being invaded by Russia - unjustly and criminally as in 1939. Germany and Russia on Poland. The Kremlin has not prepared any credible myth as to why they need this war.
However, a symbolism has already been born - it is "Z".
- Symbolism in war plays a huge role. In the beginning, the Russians adopted different letters to denote different fronts. This symbolism was as utilitarian as road signs - it carried no content at first. It was only with time that the "Z" acquired a content with which some people began to identify. This also shows Russia's lack of preparation for war - they did not even prepare symbols with which a fighting soldier is supposed to identify.
Do you not overestimate the importance of symbolism?
- The Warsaw insurgents had white and red armbands and an anchor - they were ready to fight and die for these symbols. A soldier should carry symbols that he associates with his system of values and his own identity. The Russians lacked even that.
If they were to occupy Ukraine in a few days, who would bother with symbols?
- For centuries, armies have followed the flag. Flags were earned and flags died for. The Russians do not have a flag and even the Russian flag seems to be ashamed of it. This war is criminal, and the Russians have already made so many mistakes, both in broadcasting and in military terms, that the myth of an invincible Red Army can now be put to rest.
Young people in Russia - of their own free will or under duress - are beginning to wear the "Z". One athlete even received his medal with a "Z" on his chest.
- Boy, you disgraced yourself and messed up your life because you supported a criminal war - that much I can tell him. I even feel a little sorry for him, because he is an ill-educated wimp. Others who wear this symbol will also feel ashamed. The war will be over, the world will seek normality, but no one will forget these gestures.
Can you absolve and justify ordinary Russians who, subjected to propaganda, support the war?
- The fundamental thing is that people must bear the consequences of their choices. Even if one has been misinformed, undereducated or subjected to propaganda. Of course, the responsibility of an ordinary person is different from that of a propagandist or a general in a war, but we cannot afford to absolve people who justify themselves by saying that on television and they believed it. No. No. No.
There are demonstrations, not large but nevertheless, in the streets of Russia by opponents of the war. Before and during the Second World War, was there such a microscopic, but nonetheless social resistance in the aggressor state?
- Concentration camps were set up in Germany as early as 1933. Potential opponents - socialists, some Christian Democrats, communists - were immediately put into the camps so that there was no one to protest in the streets. Opposition was strangled before it really manifested itself. At the same time, the voice of opposition from the churches to the murder of disabled people in Action T4 was quiet.
- Now in Russia there are actually a small number of people protesting, which is fantastic, but the hopes for them are long term. It is worth appreciating human rights defenders, civil rights activists, activists of organisations like Memorial...
...already closed by the Kremlin.
- It was not without reason that Putin had it banned in advance. During the Chechen wars, Memorial played a gigantic role in collecting, documenting and exposing the successive crimes against humanity committed there by the Russians. If Putin's decision to go to war with Ukraine was taken in the summer-autumn of last year, it was in preparation for this that Memorial was closed down. Not because Memorial is working for history and has revealed documents relating to Katyn, but because Memorial is also documenting new war crimes. The conclusion is that the Kremlin knew from the start that a war with Ukraine would be criminal.
Putler?
- I myself do not like the juxtaposition of historical figures. I have a distance from comparative studies. I consider history to be a relatively exact science, and certainly the strictest among the humanities, because history speaks of events that took place at a particular time and were attended by particular people.
- It is not that history likes to repeat itself. We like to tell ourselves that, but it is not so. It would be too easy. Yes, the same mechanisms can be used repeatedly, and imperfect analogies can be found, but it is not worth reaching for slogans that are too simple - such as Putler's. Besides, I see a surprising difference between Hitler and Putin: the Third Reich prepared its blitzkrieg much more efficiently.
Such a common mechanism is trauma? Putin is traumatised by the collapse of the USSR, which he considered the greatest disaster of the 20th century, just as Germany was traumatised by its humiliation in World War I?
- Trauma is important to unite an entire country against an imaginary enemy. This can happen anywhere - in Russia, in Rwanda or in Cambodia. In fact, if you analyse many wars and crimes, the background is heavy collective frustration exploited by unscrupulous ideologues. A people who live with frustration and cannot cope with it are easily manipulated by saying they are great, that they are "superhuman" or some other bright side of power, and blame all failures on their enemies. We see this in many populisms and regimes around the world.
How can one simultaneously support the victim and finance the criminal with purchases? And that is what the West is doing, supporting Ukraine but also buying energy resources.
- We allowed ourselves to be bought by becoming dependent on energy sources from Russia. Germany, in particular, was abandoning its own nuclear energy in favour of Russian hydrogen. Such a decision was simply stupid, because it did not provide a plan B, but only a dependence on Moscow.
In 1939. The West did not want to die for Gdańsk, now for Kiev?
- If you don't die for Kiev now, you will have to die for Gdańsk later.
- I am convinced that Putin's Russia's plan of aggression does not end at the Bug line. Russian rhetoric speaks of the return of an empire, which means taking over not only Belarus and Ukraine, but also the Baltic States, Moldova, Georgia and Transcaucasia.
The empire does not stop by itself, but it must be stopped by force. Do you see a force that will stop Putin?
- Never in my life have I seen the world so united against any empire as it is now. For 15 years I have been working in Auschwitz, and thousands of times I have asked myself whether there is any point in working at this Memorial. I asked myself whether history and memory were capable of changing people enough for them not to be indifferent to the crime. Today I no longer have such doubts.
Why?
- The reunification of the West, though imperfect, has surprised me greatly. The world has never been as united as now against the imperial expansion of the Kremlin.
And this is also thanks to the functioning of the Auschwitz Museum?
- We try to show that indifference kills as well as hostility. Now I am convinced that this is bringing results. This difficult, psychologically exhausting work of the entire Auschwitz Museum team makes sense. But it is not only thanks to the Auschwitz Museum that the world is freed from indifference, but also thanks to other memorials, organizations, and people. Even the post-war conflicts that shamed the West, such as Rwanda or the crime against the Rohingya people, had to change the world at least a little.
Who was the first to open the gates of Auschwitz?
- The Red Army, but not the Russians alone. There were many Ukrainians among them, and there were also Poles from the borderlands. All the peoples of the USSR or the territories occupied by the Soviets. More than 200 Red Army soldiers died in the Oświęcim area - although it is difficult to verify exactly where - and they are buried in the local cemetery.
Putin was at the Auschwitz Museum?
- Putin was at the 60th anniversary of the liberation - in 2005. Sergei Naryshkin (today Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation) was also there - a little later.
Did Putin not take anything away from this visit?
- He did not visit. He only participated in the celebrations.
He did not look at the crematoria, the exhibition.
- He was only once at the celebrations, and during this event, when there are many heads of state, we do not organise sightseeing. However, let us not delude ourselves that even if he had visited the entire camp, seen the gas chambers and crematoria, he would have understood more and would not have started a war.
2022.03.15 21:13 boskee Auschwitz Director: If you don't die for Kyiv now, you will have to die for Gdańsk later
- World War 3 is possible. For God's sake, it is possible. If we honestly create a spectrum of possibilities, it must be comprehensive - even with extremes, which would be global conflict and nuclear conflict," says Piotr Cywiński, director of the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum, in an interview with Gazeta.pl.Source (in Polish): https://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114883,28220695,piotr-cywinski-jesli-teraz-nie-bedzie-sie-umieralo-za-kijow.html
Jacek Gądek: - Do you see the beginning of genocide?
Piotr Cywiński: - Undoubtedly, we see the monstrous war crimes of Russia. Genocide - and this is a term which is rooted in the historical and legal order - would involve the murder of every Ukrainian simply because they are Ukrainian. So Russia's criminal war fortunately does not yet exhaust the definition of genocide. Overnight, however, things could turn into something now unimaginable.
The Russians are bombing and shelling schools, houses, blocks of flats, kindergartens, hospitals ... - ...and columns of refugees. They are killing mothers with children. Russian soldiers murder civilians on orders - in bombings, in rocket fire. These are war crimes.
Are these images as if from the Second World War?
- Of course they are. People who fled from the first cities bombed by the Luftwaffe were shelled by German aircraft.
Yet Vladimir Putin says that there is "Nazism" in Ukraine and he wants to "denazify" it. You know the essence of Nazism. Is it in Ukraine?
- Nazism is everywhere in the world, but counted in promilles. What disturbs me about this rhetoric about fighting Nazism is that, in general, when Russia has fought right-wing extremism, it has called it "fascism" and not "Nazism". Putin himself, however, is using overtly fascist formations in this war, such as the Vagner militia - people who tattoo themselves with swastikas, runes and SS symbols. It is also worth remembering that Putin is influenced by thinkers - I won't call them philosophers or even give their names so as not to promote these personalities - who openly promote fascism.
Whoever Putin fights, he accuses the Ukrainians of genocide in the Donbass. Sounds absurd?
- It leads us to believe that Putin feels weak and insecure. The aggressiveness of this propaganda, blatant, absurdly strong betrays fear. Just as Putin's fear is evidenced by his decree of a 15-year prison sentence for telling the truth about the war. I am inclined to agree with commentators who say that we are watching the end of a tyrant.
However, the end can last for long years?
- It can last a long time and it can also be bloody. So I understand the strategy whereby the western world is trying to convince his entourage that the continuation of the tyrant is not worth it to them. I think everyone is hoping that there will be a palace coup. Certainly many of his closest associates are beginning to lose too much.
- I am not counting on any grassroots, civil revolution in Russia.
Because ordinary Russians watch TV and absorb propaganda and in effect support Putin?
- It would be good if the same thing happened in Russia as happened in Poland in the 1980s, when people no longer believed in television. Back then, when Jerzy Urban said that oranges were coming to Gdańsk, everyone knew that there would be no oranges. I hope that one day the Russians will decipher the Kremlin's aggressive propaganda and stop believing in it. But this is a long-term process.
Before the Second World War, the German media were also - like the Russian media nowadays - driven by war?
- Yes, and there were in the German media all manners of dehumanising the enemy. The Third Reich took the enemy out of human categories. In Russia we have this too: Putin and his propaganda call Ukrainians "Nazis", "drug addicts", and in the case of German propaganda the enemies were, for example, "rats" and a threat to the race. The attempt to dehumanise the victim is just as it was before the Second World War.
- The difference is that Russian rhetoric focuses on the fight against mythical "Nazis" and "drug addicts", but Putin keeps claiming that he wants to liberate Ukrainians, not exterminate them.
The Ukrainian nation, however, according to him, does not exist. Just as the Ukrainian state has no right to exist.
- This is dehumanisation and denial of the right to exist as in the Third Reich. Putin, however, has not yet given the order to kill all Ukrainians, although he has given permission to kill civilians.
Do you see a similarity between the beginning of World War II and the current war in Ukraine?
- Rather a difference. Adolf Hitler, however, controlled the situation at the beginning and had a fairly accurate assessment of reality. And now the aggressor - Putin - has neither control nor a sober assessment. Today I see an old man who has been lied to for years out of fear by everyone about the power of the Russian army and the weakness of Ukraine, and he, convinced of the truth of this lie, has ordered the conquest of Ukraine. In fact, both the aim and the strategy to achieve it seem to have been misguided. At the same time, Russian propaganda directed outward - to the world - has proved dramatically ineffective.
- Until now, many commentators have regarded Russia as a disinformation power in the world. The Russians were thought to be able to influence elections in various countries. And now? Their failure in message is greater than on the battlefield.
Ukraine is winning in Western perception, but the Russian version is already triumphing among Russians.
- So that the Kremlin does not lose in Russia in propaganda terms, Putin has had to cut off all information from the world, and he is threatened with 15 years in prison for telling the truth about the war. This is also a measure of this failure.
Putin: "Attempts are underway to destroy our traditional values and to impose their pseudo-values on us, which corrode us, our people from within. The same attitudes that they are already aggressively spreading in their countries, which leads to degradation and degeneration because it goes against the very nature of man." It follows that Putin is supposedly fighting for humanity?
- This is obviously a lie. In such words one can hear the influence of thinkers - again, I deliberately do not mention names - in whom Putin is enamoured. They promote a vision of a white, pure holy Rassiya, threatened from outside by a dark and corrupt world - the West. Books with this vision are ordered by the Kremlin to be published and promoted, and the Russian elite read them. It is a Manichean image with a messianic Russia. This is nothing new, as many movements had a similar vision - for example, the Legion of Michael the Archangel in Romania before World War II. In Russia, however, it has become a state ideology.
Russkij mir is the new Lebensraum?
- That is an imperfect comparison. Lebensraum would be an apt analogy if the beginnings of the great Germania were in Krakow or Lviv. The Russians, by the way, are not talking about the need for a new living space, but are trying to present Ukraine as something identical to Russia, but in need of purification.
- It is important to remember that Russia's roots are not in Moscow or St Petersburg, but in Kiev. Kiev is the mythical cradle of Russia - our Gniezno. It is difficult for the Kremlin to say 'we will destroy Ukraine', because that would be contrary to the myth it is creating, and leaders need myths for propaganda. The myth is simply to persuade a soldier to fight and be prepared to die. You cannot give a soldier a lecture on the history of political thought, but sell him a myth in a few sentences, so that he believes in it and has the conviction of what he is fighting for and perhaps will die for. The Russians have not succeeded in this either, as can be seen from the low mobilisation of their own troops, let alone those of Belarus. Nevertheless, they are still trying to push this myth of a cleansed Ukraine and the return of Kiev to the bosom of Rassiya onto the public.
World War III?
- World War III is possible. For God's sake, it is possible. If you honestly create a spectrum of possibilities, it has to be holistic - even with the extremes of what would be global conflict and nuclear conflict. I see no reason why the outbreak of a new world war can be rejected with absolute certainty. But developments in this worst direction would undermine the interests of the world powers. A world conflict would also be deadly for Russia itself, so the Kremlin elite would be better off staging a palace coup - putting all the blame on Putin, even delivering him to The Hague - so as to whitewash themselves and continue to rule Russia. In view of the fierce defence of the Ukrainians and the tough sanctions from the West, this war can in no way be profitable for Russia and its elite.
Is there wishful thinking in your words?
- Looking at history and the bizarreness of Putin's behaviour - morbidly keeping his distance from everyone and isolated - one might think that he is convinced that a palace coup is a real threat to him. He must be all the more afraid of his own entourage the more his war is bogged down. He treats his associates in a ridiculing and degrading manner, and that is a trait of people in a panic.
- Let us remember: this is Russia. What seems improbable in Western European circles, because we can only refer to some insane assassination attempts, is normal in Russia. Tsars and Communist notables such as Lavrientij Beria have died at the hands of conspirators. Palace coups have a tradition in Russia.
According to Putin, Russia must not repeat the mistakes made by the USSR at the start of the Second World War, when - according to him - Stalin delayed too long in repelling the attack by Nazi Germany. Is there a shred of truth in this?
- In my opinion it is a mistake to look for logic and coherence in Putin's rhetoric today. Putin, by the way, is not even thinking of World War II, but of the Great Patriotic War. The Second War began on 1 September 1939 with Adolf Hitler's invasion of Poland, and immediately afterwards there was also the USSR's invasion from the east. In his rhetoric, Putin does not refer to 1 or 17 September, but only to 1941, because this allows him to speak of a Russia that is being attacked, and not one that is carrying out the aggression itself.
- Today, everyone can see that Ukraine is being invaded by Russia - unjustly and criminally as in 1939. Germany and Russia on Poland. The Kremlin has not prepared any credible myth as to why they need this war.
However, a symbolism has already been born - it is "Z".
- Symbolism in war plays a huge role. In the beginning, the Russians adopted different letters to denote different fronts. This symbolism was as utilitarian as road signs - it carried no content at first. It was only with time that the "Z" acquired a content with which some people began to identify. This also shows Russia's lack of preparation for war - they did not even prepare symbols with which a fighting soldier is supposed to identify.
Do you not overestimate the importance of symbolism?
- The Warsaw insurgents had white and red armbands and an anchor - they were ready to fight and die for these symbols. A soldier should carry symbols that he associates with his system of values and his own identity. The Russians lacked even that.
If they were to occupy Ukraine in a few days, who would bother with symbols?
- For centuries, armies have followed the flag. Flags were earned and flags died for. The Russians do not have a flag and even the Russian flag seems to be ashamed of it. This war is criminal, and the Russians have already made so many mistakes, both in broadcasting and in military terms, that the myth of an invincible Red Army can now be put to rest.
Young people in Russia - of their own free will or under duress - are beginning to wear the "Z". One athlete even received his medal with a "Z" on his chest.
- Boy, you disgraced yourself and messed up your life because you supported a criminal war - that much I can tell him. I even feel a little sorry for him, because he is an ill-educated wimp. Others who wear this symbol will also feel ashamed. The war will be over, the world will seek normality, but no one will forget these gestures.
Can you absolve and justify ordinary Russians who, subjected to propaganda, support the war?
- The fundamental thing is that people must bear the consequences of their choices. Even if one has been misinformed, undereducated or subjected to propaganda. Of course, the responsibility of an ordinary person is different from that of a propagandist or a general in a war, but we cannot afford to absolve people who justify themselves by saying that on television and they believed it. No. No. No.
There are demonstrations, not large but nevertheless, in the streets of Russia by opponents of the war. Before and during the Second World War, was there such a microscopic, but nonetheless social resistance in the aggressor state?
- Concentration camps were set up in Germany as early as 1933. Potential opponents - socialists, some Christian Democrats, communists - were immediately put into the camps so that there was no one to protest in the streets. Opposition was strangled before it really manifested itself. At the same time, the voice of opposition from the churches to the murder of disabled people in Action T4 was quiet.
- Now in Russia there are actually a small number of people protesting, which is fantastic, but the hopes for them are long term. It is worth appreciating human rights defenders, civil rights activists, activists of organisations like Memorial...
...already closed by the Kremlin.
- It was not without reason that Putin had it banned in advance. During the Chechen wars, Memorial played a gigantic role in collecting, documenting and exposing the successive crimes against humanity committed there by the Russians. If Putin's decision to go to war with Ukraine was taken in the summer-autumn of last year, it was in preparation for this that Memorial was closed down. Not because Memorial is working for history and has revealed documents relating to Katyn, but because Memorial is also documenting new war crimes. The conclusion is that the Kremlin knew from the start that a war with Ukraine would be criminal.
Putler?
- I myself do not like the juxtaposition of historical figures. I have a distance from comparative studies. I consider history to be a relatively exact science, and certainly the strictest among the humanities, because history speaks of events that took place at a particular time and were attended by particular people.
- It is not that history likes to repeat itself. We like to tell ourselves that, but it is not so. It would be too easy. Yes, the same mechanisms can be used repeatedly, and imperfect analogies can be found, but it is not worth reaching for slogans that are too simple - such as Putler's. Besides, I see a surprising difference between Hitler and Putin: the Third Reich prepared its blitzkrieg much more efficiently.
Such a common mechanism is trauma? Putin is traumatised by the collapse of the USSR, which he considered the greatest disaster of the 20th century, just as Germany was traumatised by its humiliation in World War I?
- Trauma is important to unite an entire country against an imaginary enemy. This can happen anywhere - in Russia, in Rwanda or in Cambodia. In fact, if you analyse many wars and crimes, the background is heavy collective frustration exploited by unscrupulous ideologues. A people who live with frustration and cannot cope with it are easily manipulated by saying they are great, that they are "superhuman" or some other bright side of power, and blame all failures on their enemies. We see this in many populisms and regimes around the world.
How can one simultaneously support the victim and finance the criminal with purchases? And that is what the West is doing, supporting Ukraine but also buying energy resources.
- We allowed ourselves to be bought by becoming dependent on energy sources from Russia. Germany, in particular, was abandoning its own nuclear energy in favour of Russian hydrogen. Such a decision was simply stupid, because it did not provide a plan B, but only a dependence on Moscow.
In 1939. The West did not want to die for Gdańsk, now for Kiev?
- If you don't die for Kiev now, you will have to die for Gdańsk later.
- I am convinced that Putin's Russia's plan of aggression does not end at the Bug line. Russian rhetoric speaks of the return of an empire, which means taking over not only Belarus and Ukraine, but also the Baltic States, Moldova, Georgia and Transcaucasia.
The empire does not stop by itself, but it must be stopped by force. Do you see a force that will stop Putin?
- Never in my life have I seen the world so united against any empire as it is now. For 15 years I have been working in Auschwitz, and thousands of times I have asked myself whether there is any point in working at this Memorial. I asked myself whether history and memory were capable of changing people enough for them not to be indifferent to the crime. Today I no longer have such doubts.
Why?
- The reunification of the West, though imperfect, has surprised me greatly. The world has never been as united as now against the imperial expansion of the Kremlin.
And this is also thanks to the functioning of the Auschwitz Museum?
- We try to show that indifference kills as well as hostility. Now I am convinced that this is bringing results. This difficult, psychologically exhausting work of the entire Auschwitz Museum team makes sense. But it is not only thanks to the Auschwitz Museum that the world is freed from indifference, but also thanks to other memorials, organizations, and people. Even the post-war conflicts that shamed the West, such as Rwanda or the crime against the Rohingya people, had to change the world at least a little.
Who was the first to open the gates of Auschwitz?
- The Red Army, but not the Russians alone. There were many Ukrainians among them, and there were also Poles from the borderlands. All the peoples of the USSR or the territories occupied by the Soviets. More than 200 Red Army soldiers died in the Oświęcim area - although it is difficult to verify exactly where - and they are buried in the local cemetery.
Putin was at the Auschwitz Museum?
- Putin was at the 60th anniversary of the liberation - in 2005. Sergei Naryshkin (today Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation) was also there - a little later.
Did Putin not take anything away from this visit?
- He did not visit. He only participated in the celebrations.
He did not look at the crematoria, the exhibition.
- He was only once at the celebrations, and during this event, when there are many heads of state, we do not organise sightseeing. However, let us not delude ourselves that even if he had visited the entire camp, seen the gas chambers and crematoria, he would have understood more and would not have started a war.
2021.10.15 17:30 Joel-Wing This Day In Iraqi History - Oct 15
1905 British Amb to Turkey O’Conor sent memo written by Sir Sykes to Foreign Office detailing oil deposits in Mosul vilayet
1906 Protests in Mosul ended against Ottoman census that included counting women
1927 1st successful oil well started at Baba Gargur field in Kirkuk
(Musings On Iraq review Imagining The Nation, Nationalism, Sectarianism and Socio-Political Conflict in Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq review The Modern History of Iraq)
1960 Islamic Party complained to Gen Qasim that his govt neglected religion while accepted Communists Asked Qasim to ban Communists and their media while releasing any cleric arrested since 1958 coup
(Musings On Iraq review Red Star Over Iraq, Iraqi Communism Before Saddam)
(Musings On Iraq Interview with Prof Johan Franzen on the history of the Iraqi Communist Party)
1973 Syrian-Jordanian-Iraqi offensive in southern Syria against Israel failed to achieve results Yom-Kippur War
1980 Iran launched large counter attack against Iraqi forces around Andimeshk
(Musings On Iraq interview with author Anthony Tucker-Jones on Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq interview with author Tom Cooper on Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq review The Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988)
(Musings On Iraq review Iran-Iraq War, The Lion of Babylon, 1980-1988)
(Musings On Iraq review The Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq review The Longest War, The Iran-Iraq Military Conflict)
1984 Iraq and Turkey made deal to fight PKK Allowed each country to enter 3 miles into others territory to combat group
(Musings On Iraq review Turkey, the US and Iraq)
1991 Report UN inspectors said Iraq worked on hydrogen bomb before Gulf War Found program more advanced than previously thought Iraq could’ve had bomb in a year
(Musings On Iraq UN Inspectors Were Right Iraq Was Not A Threat)
(Musings On Iraq Iraq’s Rejection of UN Inspectors Led To Mistrust Over WMD and 2003 Invasion)
1993 Chief UN inspector Ekeus told Security Council progress had been made on missile chemical and nuclear programs Iraq was hoping its recent concessions would end sanctions
1994 Iraq withdrew troops from Kuwait border after Russian diplomacy and UN Res 949 that demanded withdrawal UN Res 949 demanded Iraq’s full cooperation with UN inspectors
1995 Saddam won referendum for 7 more years as president with 99.9% of vote Was meant to show public was behind Saddam after Hussein Kamal defected to Jordan
1996 UAE head Nahyan called on Arab countries to reconcile with Iraq and called for lifting of sanctions
1997 Ayatollah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr gave sermon saying No! Yes is just for God mocking Yes to Saddam slogan
(Musings On Iraq interview with Univ of Haifa’s Prof Baram on legacy of Ayatollah Sadiq al-Sadr)
(Musings On Iraq review Death of the Mehdi Army, The Rise, Fall, and Revival of Iraq’s Most Powerful Militia)
(Musings On Iraq review Muqtada, Muqtada Al-Sadr, The Shia Revival, And The Struggle For Iraq)
1997 Turkey’s Op Dawn ended against PKK in Kurdistan
(Musings On Iraq review The Kurds, A Modern History)
2000 Iran announced it was returning to 1975 Algiers Treaty Meant rapprochment with Iraq but also Iraq gained nothing from Iran-Iraq War
2001 CIA report from Rome said that Italian intel said Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger but didn’t see much merit in it
(Musings On Iraq review The WMD Mirage, Iraq’s Decade of Deception and America’s False Premise for War)
2001 CIA DIA Energy Dept thought Iraq-Niger uranium deal was possible State Dept thought story suspect
(Musings On Iraq How US Intelligence Failed The Iraq-Niger Uranium Story)
(Musings On Iraq Review Hubris, The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, And The Selling Of The Iraq War)
2001 White House spokesman said no connection between Iraq and anthrax letters sent to Wash DC
2002 Def Sec Rumsfeld wrote list of 29 things that could go wrong with Iraq War Included finding no WMD ethnosectarian conflict List was to point out possible problems so war could be successful Had no follow up on how to deal with any problems listed
(Musings On Iraq Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction’s “Hard Lessons” – Part I: Planning for Postwar Iraq September 2001 to May 2003)
(Musings On Iraq review Leap of Faith, Hubris Negligence, and America’s Greatest Foreign PolicyTragedy)
2002 Italy’s SISMI intel agency told CIA of Iraq-Niger uranium deal documents
(Musings On Iraq How US Intelligence Failed The Iraq-Niger Uranium Story)
(Musings On Iraq Review Hubris, The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, And The Selling Of The Iraq War)
2002 Under Sec of Def Feith briefed NSC on plan for governing postwar Iraq with 3-star general in charge of military and civilian administrator
(Musings On Iraq review State of Denial, Bush At War, Part III)
(Musings On Iraq review Hard Lessons, The Iraq Reconstruction Experience)
2003 Sec of State Powell said that his claims about Iraq’s WMD program had been proven
(Musings On Iraq Iraq One Of The Worst Intelligence Failures In US History)
(Musings On Iraq How The Administration Reversed Itself On Finding Iraq’s WMD)
(Musings On Iraq review Hoodwinked, The Documents That Reveal How Bush Sold Us a War)
(Musings On Iraq review What Happened, Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception)
2003 Natl Sec Adv Rice said CPA’s schedule for Iraq wouldn’t work and new one had to be created
(Musings On Iraq review Squandered Victory, The American Occupation And the Bungled Effort to Bring Democracy to Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq review State of Denial, Bush At War, Part III)
2003 Sadr followers failed to take over Karbala shrine
2003 UK intel report Worried that Iraq would become new base for jihadists Significant number of Islamists had already travelled to Iraq Could become base for recruiting training and attacks and could get worse
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq’s Sunni Insurgency)
(Musings On Iraq Review The Report of the Iraq Inquiry, Executive Summary)
2003 CPA began distributing new Iraqi dinars
2004 US put Zarqawi on its terrorist list
2004 VP Cheney said Iraq could have given WMD to terrorists
(Musings On Iraq Iraq One Of The Worst Intelligence Failures In US History)
2005 Constitution approved in Referendum 66% voter turnout 70% of Sunnis voted against it
(Musings On Iraq US Army History of Iraq War Vol 1- Chapter 18 – Defeated By Democracy, Winter 2005-2006)
(Musings On Iraq interview with constitutional scholar Zaid al-Ali on Iraq’s constitution)
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq From War To A New Authoritarianism)
(Musings On Iraq review The Struggle For Iraq’s Future, How Corruption, Incompetence and Sectarianism Have Undermined Democracy)
2006 Reconciliation conference indefinitely postponed due to weekend violence Setback for PMMaliki’s reconciliation plans
2006 Mujahedeen Shura Council again announced ISI and Islamic State in Baghdad Anbar Diyala Kirkuk Salahaddin Ninewa Babil Said its goal was to govern
2006 Report auditors found ¼ of US funded water projects had broken down since being turned over to Iraqis
2006 2 days Shiite gunmen killed 47 Sunnis in Balad in retaliation for 26 dead Shiites being found in Dhuluiya
2006 6 car bombs in Kirkuk killed 10 and wounded dozens 52 killed in attacks in Baghdad
2006 500 Sunni sheikhs held meeting condemning federalism plan by ISCI objected to breakingup Iraq
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq After America, Strongmen, Sectarians, Resistance)
2006 Islamic Party accused Interior Min of Oct 9 murder of VP Hashemi’s brother
2007 State Dept official told reporters corruption in Iraq was systemic and hindering govt Claimed PMMaliki was dealing with it
(Musings On Iraq interview with Special Inspector Gen for Iraq Reconstruction Bowen on corruption in Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq interview with fmr anti-graft official Vincent Foulk on corruption in Iraq)
2008 Moldova announced withdrawing its 20 soldiers Dec 08 Were supposed to stay until March 09 Said improved security meant not needed anymore
2008 US and ISF started new campaign to secure Mosul Started in western half Was ISI’s new base Campaign failed
2009 Sadrists held primary election meant to rally support for 09 provincial elections
(Musings On Iraq The Sadrist Primaries)
2015 Immediately after Baiji refinery liberated Hashd began looting facility and selling off equipment to Iraqi and Iranian businesses
2017 Hashd burned PUK office in Tuz Kharmato after fighting stopped there over independence referendum
(Musings On Iraq review The Great Betrayal, How America Abandoned The Kurds And Lost The Middle East)
2019 Sadr called for new protests during Arbaeen pilgrimage in Karbala
(Musings On Iraq Sadr Joins Protests While Govt Continues With Promises And Crackdown)
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1906 Protests in Mosul ended against Ottoman census that included counting women
1927 1st successful oil well started at Baba Gargur field in Kirkuk
(Musings On Iraq review Imagining The Nation, Nationalism, Sectarianism and Socio-Political Conflict in Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq review The Modern History of Iraq)
1960 Islamic Party complained to Gen Qasim that his govt neglected religion while accepted Communists Asked Qasim to ban Communists and their media while releasing any cleric arrested since 1958 coup
(Musings On Iraq review Red Star Over Iraq, Iraqi Communism Before Saddam)
(Musings On Iraq Interview with Prof Johan Franzen on the history of the Iraqi Communist Party)
1973 Syrian-Jordanian-Iraqi offensive in southern Syria against Israel failed to achieve results Yom-Kippur War
1980 Iran launched large counter attack against Iraqi forces around Andimeshk
(Musings On Iraq interview with author Anthony Tucker-Jones on Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq interview with author Tom Cooper on Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq review The Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988)
(Musings On Iraq review Iran-Iraq War, The Lion of Babylon, 1980-1988)
(Musings On Iraq review The Iran-Iraq War)
(Musings On Iraq review The Longest War, The Iran-Iraq Military Conflict)
1984 Iraq and Turkey made deal to fight PKK Allowed each country to enter 3 miles into others territory to combat group
(Musings On Iraq review Turkey, the US and Iraq)
1991 Report UN inspectors said Iraq worked on hydrogen bomb before Gulf War Found program more advanced than previously thought Iraq could’ve had bomb in a year
(Musings On Iraq UN Inspectors Were Right Iraq Was Not A Threat)
(Musings On Iraq Iraq’s Rejection of UN Inspectors Led To Mistrust Over WMD and 2003 Invasion)
1993 Chief UN inspector Ekeus told Security Council progress had been made on missile chemical and nuclear programs Iraq was hoping its recent concessions would end sanctions
1994 Iraq withdrew troops from Kuwait border after Russian diplomacy and UN Res 949 that demanded withdrawal UN Res 949 demanded Iraq’s full cooperation with UN inspectors
1995 Saddam won referendum for 7 more years as president with 99.9% of vote Was meant to show public was behind Saddam after Hussein Kamal defected to Jordan
1996 UAE head Nahyan called on Arab countries to reconcile with Iraq and called for lifting of sanctions
1997 Ayatollah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr gave sermon saying No! Yes is just for God mocking Yes to Saddam slogan
(Musings On Iraq interview with Univ of Haifa’s Prof Baram on legacy of Ayatollah Sadiq al-Sadr)
(Musings On Iraq review Death of the Mehdi Army, The Rise, Fall, and Revival of Iraq’s Most Powerful Militia)
(Musings On Iraq review Muqtada, Muqtada Al-Sadr, The Shia Revival, And The Struggle For Iraq)
1997 Turkey’s Op Dawn ended against PKK in Kurdistan
(Musings On Iraq review The Kurds, A Modern History)
2000 Iran announced it was returning to 1975 Algiers Treaty Meant rapprochment with Iraq but also Iraq gained nothing from Iran-Iraq War
2001 CIA report from Rome said that Italian intel said Iraq tried to buy uranium from Niger but didn’t see much merit in it
(Musings On Iraq review The WMD Mirage, Iraq’s Decade of Deception and America’s False Premise for War)
2001 CIA DIA Energy Dept thought Iraq-Niger uranium deal was possible State Dept thought story suspect
(Musings On Iraq How US Intelligence Failed The Iraq-Niger Uranium Story)
(Musings On Iraq Review Hubris, The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, And The Selling Of The Iraq War)
2001 White House spokesman said no connection between Iraq and anthrax letters sent to Wash DC
2002 Def Sec Rumsfeld wrote list of 29 things that could go wrong with Iraq War Included finding no WMD ethnosectarian conflict List was to point out possible problems so war could be successful Had no follow up on how to deal with any problems listed
(Musings On Iraq Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction’s “Hard Lessons” – Part I: Planning for Postwar Iraq September 2001 to May 2003)
(Musings On Iraq review Leap of Faith, Hubris Negligence, and America’s Greatest Foreign PolicyTragedy)
2002 Italy’s SISMI intel agency told CIA of Iraq-Niger uranium deal documents
(Musings On Iraq How US Intelligence Failed The Iraq-Niger Uranium Story)
(Musings On Iraq Review Hubris, The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, And The Selling Of The Iraq War)
2002 Under Sec of Def Feith briefed NSC on plan for governing postwar Iraq with 3-star general in charge of military and civilian administrator
(Musings On Iraq review State of Denial, Bush At War, Part III)
(Musings On Iraq review Hard Lessons, The Iraq Reconstruction Experience)
2003 Sec of State Powell said that his claims about Iraq’s WMD program had been proven
(Musings On Iraq Iraq One Of The Worst Intelligence Failures In US History)
(Musings On Iraq How The Administration Reversed Itself On Finding Iraq’s WMD)
(Musings On Iraq review Hoodwinked, The Documents That Reveal How Bush Sold Us a War)
(Musings On Iraq review What Happened, Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception)
2003 Natl Sec Adv Rice said CPA’s schedule for Iraq wouldn’t work and new one had to be created
(Musings On Iraq review Squandered Victory, The American Occupation And the Bungled Effort to Bring Democracy to Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq review State of Denial, Bush At War, Part III)
2003 Sadr followers failed to take over Karbala shrine
2003 UK intel report Worried that Iraq would become new base for jihadists Significant number of Islamists had already travelled to Iraq Could become base for recruiting training and attacks and could get worse
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq’s Sunni Insurgency)
(Musings On Iraq Review The Report of the Iraq Inquiry, Executive Summary)
2003 CPA began distributing new Iraqi dinars
2004 US put Zarqawi on its terrorist list
2004 VP Cheney said Iraq could have given WMD to terrorists
(Musings On Iraq Iraq One Of The Worst Intelligence Failures In US History)
2005 Constitution approved in Referendum 66% voter turnout 70% of Sunnis voted against it
(Musings On Iraq US Army History of Iraq War Vol 1- Chapter 18 – Defeated By Democracy, Winter 2005-2006)
(Musings On Iraq interview with constitutional scholar Zaid al-Ali on Iraq’s constitution)
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq From War To A New Authoritarianism)
(Musings On Iraq review The Struggle For Iraq’s Future, How Corruption, Incompetence and Sectarianism Have Undermined Democracy)
2006 Reconciliation conference indefinitely postponed due to weekend violence Setback for PMMaliki’s reconciliation plans
2006 Mujahedeen Shura Council again announced ISI and Islamic State in Baghdad Anbar Diyala Kirkuk Salahaddin Ninewa Babil Said its goal was to govern
2006 Report auditors found ¼ of US funded water projects had broken down since being turned over to Iraqis
2006 2 days Shiite gunmen killed 47 Sunnis in Balad in retaliation for 26 dead Shiites being found in Dhuluiya
2006 6 car bombs in Kirkuk killed 10 and wounded dozens 52 killed in attacks in Baghdad
2006 500 Sunni sheikhs held meeting condemning federalism plan by ISCI objected to breakingup Iraq
(Musings On Iraq review Iraq After America, Strongmen, Sectarians, Resistance)
2006 Islamic Party accused Interior Min of Oct 9 murder of VP Hashemi’s brother
2007 State Dept official told reporters corruption in Iraq was systemic and hindering govt Claimed PMMaliki was dealing with it
(Musings On Iraq interview with Special Inspector Gen for Iraq Reconstruction Bowen on corruption in Iraq)
(Musings On Iraq interview with fmr anti-graft official Vincent Foulk on corruption in Iraq)
2008 Moldova announced withdrawing its 20 soldiers Dec 08 Were supposed to stay until March 09 Said improved security meant not needed anymore
2008 US and ISF started new campaign to secure Mosul Started in western half Was ISI’s new base Campaign failed
2009 Sadrists held primary election meant to rally support for 09 provincial elections
(Musings On Iraq The Sadrist Primaries)
2015 Immediately after Baiji refinery liberated Hashd began looting facility and selling off equipment to Iraqi and Iranian businesses
2017 Hashd burned PUK office in Tuz Kharmato after fighting stopped there over independence referendum
(Musings On Iraq review The Great Betrayal, How America Abandoned The Kurds And Lost The Middle East)
2019 Sadr called for new protests during Arbaeen pilgrimage in Karbala
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Phish, Saturday 10/07/2000 (21 years ago) Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Thursday 10/07/1999 (22 years ago) Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Saturday 10/07/1995 (26 years ago) Spokane Opera House, Spokane, WA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Friday 10/07/1994 (27 years ago) Stabler Arena, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Sunday 10/07/1990 (31 years ago) Club Bene, Sayreville, NJ, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Phish, Saturday 10/07/1989 (32 years ago) Chase Hall, Bates College, Lewiston, ME, USA
Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Trey Anastasio Band, 2011-10-07 House of Blues, Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Trey Anastasio Band, 2005-10-07 Thomas Wolfe Auditorium, Asheville, NC, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon, 2003-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
Jazz Mandolin Project, 2001-10-07 The Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Everyone Orchestra, 2006-10-07 State Theatre, Falls Church, VA, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
The Word of Mouth Experience, 2003-10-07 The Players Club, Boulder, CO, USA
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
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Phish
Gap Chart, Tour: 2000 Fall Tour
Set 1 : First Tube > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Fee , Bathtub Gin , Glide , My Soul
Set 2 : Twist > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer , Wading in the Velvet Sea , Meatstick > David Bowie , Tweezer Reprise
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Jamchart Notes:
Also Sprach Zarathustra - Power rhythm clinic from Trey. This baby rates very highly on the danceability scale. Grab your helmet.
Tweezer - Good version and the last one in "1.0."
Show Notes:
This was the final show before the band's hiatus. Appropriately, given the pending extended break from touring, the pre-show music closed with The Rolling Stones' The Last Time and the post-show music was The Beatles' Let it Be. After the show, the crowd gave the crew a standing ovation as they packed the band's gear, while the crew took pictures of the crowd. Trey teased San-Ho-Zay in Twist. This show is available as an archival release on LivePhish.com.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1999 Fall Tour
Set 1 : NICU > My Soul , Dirt , David Bowie , Frankie Says > Possum , When the Circus Comes , Gotta Jibboo , Fluffhead
Set 2 : Boogie On Reggae Woman , Heavy Things , Tube , Back on the Train > Mike's Song 1 > McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters , Prince Caspian > Golgi Apparatus > Weekapaug Groove
Encore : Rocky Top > I Am Hydrogen > Julius
1 Trey on keys.
Jamchart Notes:
Tube - Wah-groove and clav early on and then Trey takes the lead while Page lays down layers on the organ.
Mike's Song - A cool and different single jam version, with Trey on the mini keyboard at first, while Page and Mike rock out. Trey jumps back on guitar around 6:30, laying down iconic and swirling '99 sounds. Things settle down, and the stretch after 10:00 features great ambient sound.
McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters - Trey gradually joins in with Page's serene and contemplative solo, offering his uniquely '99 tone in contrast to Page's classic piano musings. Sounding as though it may end in an uncharacteristically subdued manner, Page and Trey instead drive the playing out for another brief circuit, before closing in a more spirited and customary manner.
Prince Caspian - Similar to other versions from this period, but Trey shreds the ending part of the jam like a madman here. > to "Golgi."
Weekapaug Groove - The jam drops into a rhythmic groove right off the bat. While never far from home base, it's a different and cool version and well worth checking out.
Show Notes:
Trey teased Dave's Energy Guide in Jibboo. Part of the Mike's jam featured Trey on keys. Fish teased You Enjoy Myself in Mike's. Mike teased Auld Lang Syne in Weekapaug. Hydrogen was played outside of Mike's for the first time since October 31, 1987 (1,190 shows) and played as part of an encore for the first time since May 23, 1990 (895 shows).
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1995 Fall Tour
Set 1 : Julius , Gumbo > The Fog That Surrounds > Mound , Possum , The Mango Song , Acoustic Army , Wilson > Run Like an Antelope
Set 2 : Makisupa Policeman , Cars Trucks Buses , Split Open and Melt , Strange Design , It's Ice > Contact > Frankenstein , Harry Hood 1 , Sweet Adeline
Encore : Fire
1 Trey briefly played unamplified. Unfinished.
Jamchart Notes:
Possum - Very solid "Possum" with building tension and moderate dissonance. Great variation and trilling by Trey, and a sweet peak.
Split Open and Melt - Just a good solid, improvisational and well played version with tension, pulsing rhythm, and a creative ending section too.
It's Ice - Although Page dominated, the jam has contributions from all band members in a somewhat dissonant, but atypically melodic, and chilling, version.
Harry Hood - A heartfelt and moving version with beautiful soloing by Trey, who briefly plays without amplification. Then the jam builds to a powerful '95 peak, but is unfinished with a crazy crescendo of sound instead of the closing refrain.
Show Notes:
Trey briefly played unamplified during Harry Hood, which was unfinished.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1994 Fall Tour
Set 1 : My Friend, My Friend , Julius , Glide , Poor Heart , Divided Sky , Guelah Papyrus , Stash , Guyute 1 , Golgi Apparatus
Set 2 : Maze , The Horse > Silent in the Morning , Reba , Wilson > Scent of a Mule , Tweezer , Lifeboy , My Sweet One > Tweezer Reprise 2
Encore : Foreplay/Long Time 3 , Cavern
1 First performance of the completed Guyute. 2 Started as Tweezer. 3 Phish debut. Acoustic.
Jamchart Notes:
Reba - A rousing composed section incites a huge fan reaction, which bleeds into the jam, notable for an infectious groove - marked by solid Mike - with Trey deliberately building through cool riffing, a rise in sound before a quick dip in intensity finds him augmenting his tone to inform really great play. Cool Page. And on-point Fish. Before the band surges up and through a trilled-out and soaring peak.
Show Notes:
This show marked the first performance of the completed Guyute. Wilson contained a Paint It Black tease by Trey. Tweezer Reprise started as Tweezer. The Phish debut of Foreplay/Long Time was performed acoustic, and included Fish on the "female washboard."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1990 Tour
Set 1 : Divided Sky , Uncle Pen , Stash , The Landlady , Destiny Unbound , Colonel Forbin's Ascent > Fly Famous Mockingbird > The Asse Festival , The Squirming Coil > Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Magilla > La Grange
Set 2 : Buried Alive > Bouncing Around the Room > Tweezer , My Sweet One , I Didn't Know > The Lizards > Good Times Bad Times , Golgi Apparatus
Encore : Contact
Jamchart Notes:
Weekapaug Groove - Jam has some interesting key changes as well as the expected 1990-style Machine Gun Trey rapid fire action.
Show Notes:
This show was Phish's first public gig in New Jersey and featured many references to the state. Trey started the show by saying he was born and raised in New Jersey. Before Uncle Pen, Trey said that this was sort of a dream come true for him and Page, who grew up in New Jersey, adding it was the first time they'd ever played in the state. Trey said "we'll do a little song here that brings us back to our New Jersey roots here... it's an old Bill Monroe song." Mike added that it was "a song about Pendleton Vandiver, Bill Monroe's uncle. It's true. He's dead." Stash was played by request for "Big Phil" Muller, and was preceded by Fish playing the Charlie Chan signal. Fish said "he wrote it," Trey said "probably because I wrote it," and Mike added "I think it sucks. Essentially." Regarding Stash, Trey said "I collaborated on this song writing the music end of it and the lyrics were written by another native New Jerseyian, Tom Marshall, who isn't here tonight, unfortunately, because he's gotta be at work tomorrow programming computers." Fish added "for his dad" and Trey responded "My dad, he works for my dad. Keeping it all in the family here." Stash and La Grange contained Buried Alive teases. Prior to Landlady, Trey said they were going to play it in honor of their first gig in New Jersey. Mike introduced Destiny Unbound as a song he wrote about his Uncle Pendleton Vandiver. Prior to Buried Alive, Trey asked for a show of hands from the sparse crowd as to how many people in the room were actually from New Jersey and said "we're going to play a song that we wrote that we think captures the spirit of New Jersey," calling it "New Jersey And You, Perfect Together," which is the state's tourism slogan (a joke he later referenced in Golgi and Contact). Trey encouraged the crowd to "sing along when the chorus comes, just like it's a big commercial, because we'll be filming this for the next New Jersey commercial." During I Didn't Know, Trey introduced Fish as "Zero Man" and the song's lyrics were changed to Pardon Me "Zero Man." Before Contact, Trey introduced his dog Marley as "the 5th member of the band who doesn't usually get as much recognition... and we're going to play Marley's favorite song -- at this moment in time."
Listen now at Phish.in!
Gap Chart, Tour: 1989 Tour
Set 1 : Golgi Apparatus > Ya Mar , Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove , Suzy Greenberg , Fee > La Grange , Makisupa Policeman > Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues , Good Times Bad Times
Set 2 : Dinner and a Movie > Bundle of Joy > Possum , Happy Birthday to You , The Lizards , AC/DC Bag , David Bowie , Contact > Highway to Hell
Encore : You Enjoy Myself
Show Notes:
This funky version of Happy Birthday was dedicated to Jennifer Spencer. The Bowie intro included a brief Fly Like an Eagle jam with lyrics and Bowie's jam contained Fishin' Hole and DEG teases. YEM included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey.
Listen now at Phish.in!
Trey Anastasio
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2011-house-of-blues-myrtle-beach-sc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - Fall 2011 Tour
Show Notes: This show featured the debut of The Land of Nod and the TAB debut of Pigtail.
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/trey-anastasio-october-07-2005-thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-usa.html
Tour: TAB - 70 Volt Parade Fall 2005 Tour
Show Notes: Grace Potter and the Nocturnals opened. A pre-recorded version of "70 Volt Parade" was played over the P.A. as the band took the stage. Trey performed "Back on the Train" through "Waste" solo acoustic. Trey dedicated "Waste" to the producer of Billy Breathes (and Joy), Steve Lillywhite, who was in attendance.
Mike Gordon
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/mike-gordon-october-07-2003-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Mike Gordon - Fall 2003 Tour
Show Notes: Kaki King opened. This show featured the debuts of "The Lesson" and "Take Me Out II" as well as the Mike Gordon debuts of "The Beltless Buckler," "Still Water" (Daniel Lanois), "If You Ask Me" (Max Creek), and "Wayside / Back in Time" (Gillian Welch).
John Fishman
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/jon-fishman-october-07-2001-the-fox-theatre-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Fish - Jazz Mandolin Project Fall 2001 Tour
Show Notes: Jamie Janover sat in on percussion during "Spiders."
Other
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2006-state-theatre-falls-church-va-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: This show consisted largely of improvised music (in addition to the songs listed above) performed by multiple combinations of musicians. The main participants for this show were: Fish (drums); Matt Butler (conductor, percussion); Steve Kimock (guitar); Jamie Janover (hammered dulcimer); Peter Apfelbaum (sax, flute, percussion); Jamie Masefield (mandolin); Jeff Coffin (sax); Asher Fulero (keyboards); Scott Law (guitar); and Reed Mathis (bass).
Setlist: https://phish.net/setlists/guest-appearance-october-07-2003-the-players-club-boulder-co-usa.html
Tour: Not Part of a Tour
Show Notes: After his performance that evening at the Fox Theatre, Mike sat in on bass with a local jazz band.
2021.10.02 01:52 AlecPEnnis Armor
The firelight cast a heavy curtain on dusk, tinting the cloud and rain a suffused orange. Night was falling but the work was only beginning. They rose to the defense, desperate now. Hordes of men and women with their children in tow walked towards us under a dimming sky. Signs waved. Our planet. Our culture. Our ways. The light danced on immature eyes, watery with stress and confusion, while something more dogmatic curdled the expressions of the parents. Behind this shambling wall of innocence and ignorance, men in dull plate peered out. Their guns spat fire.
My Ifrit reacted. It aimed the twin laser protectors peering over my shoulders. The bullets armed with explosives prematurely detonated within instants of leaving their barrels. Those with solid core penetrators warped mid-flight from my Ifrit's hateful gaze. Tungsten cores splashed across my dermal fortress's cuirass. The civilians winced and their signs wavered. Noise tested their conviction already, but they recovered.
Speaker drones flew overhead, repeating our message as it had done so for many of this planet's days.
"Entrance is not compelled. Relinquish those willing."
The message had always been unequivocal. Rydene's resistance was irrational and unfortunate. I said nothing. The other four members of my quindent said nothing. Our arms spoke, our tones were the barrels of our weapons and they rose in response to theirs.
I thought.
Solitons released from the vacuum chambers in the receivers of our rifles. The electromagnetic pulses propagated through the quantum fields at the basement of reality. The atmosphere was thrust out of the way, nary a hindrance as bolts of hardened light waved through the Rydenian militia's plates. If they were us, they might have been able to react quickly enough to minimize the damage. If their Ifrits—they called them assistors—had been sophisticated enough, they would have predicted the trajectories of our solitons.
The electromagnetic pulse in the air died as the last soliton bolt evacuated a smoldering gap through the chest of the remaining militiamen's chest. We advanced. The civilians continued their sign waving, but they made way nonetheless, surrounding us without coming close. A weak resistance snagged on my sabaton. My proprioceptor painted a three-dee image into my cognition, of a man on his last throes with one hand grasped on me and the other around a fusion grenade.
I heard the words, faint and dolorous, "For Rydene." Then I heard hydrogen isotopes fuse.
"Compensating," my Ifrit snarled, "Harmful energies ablated. Damage negligible."
But there were screams. The crowd had thinned considerably from that blast. The ones who were farther away writhed on the scarred earth with half-missing faces and limbs. Their signs fell. Slogan turned to sobbing and clumsy attempts to flee. We had been ordered not to hurt them. They damaged themselves more than anyone else.
"Advance," Isodent Vlorin-24 said.
We followed.
"Entrance is not compelled. Relinquish those willing."
The bunker laid ahead. A hundred thousand potential citizens of the Way were imprisoned there by the behest of their own government. It was a half-buried sphere of metal. Walls surround it, teeming with bartizans and emplacements. I felt through my dermal-fortress's sensor suite the charging of their capacitors.
"Hyper-polarizing," my Ifrit shouted.
Lasers fell upon my quindent like the tides. The skin of our plates swarmed with dipoles, reflecting all but one percent of a percent of the harmful energies. Nearby buildings fell from reflected lasers. The ground beneath our feet vaporized from the refraction. We fired back. Their guns became silent. Black smoke rose from the non-functional turrets. Figures walked towards us. I felt their image before I see them part the smoke. More citizens of Rydene. Some were ornamented, most dressed in plain clothes. They held pistols to their temples.
"If your kind come in kindness, then leave!" One of them shouted.
We continued walking, for our Isodent had not stopped.
"Please!" They were pleading. "Please leave our planet!" I saw the way their countenances change. Rain mixed with tears. Cheeks flushed with panic barely held together by thin skeins of undisciplined resolve.
"Release the people you have held captive," Vlorin-24 said. "They wish to join our Way. Their volition entitles them to our protection."
"They are brainwashed by your poisonous ideology. They are Rydene's children. You people have done enough damage!" Came the impassioned retort.
"We have never asked any more than your freedom to choose," Vlorin-24 says. "You hold those who chose us, hostage. We will be releasing them."
All things that had been said long before it ever arrived to this point. I watched, as curious as my warrior-therapy allowed me to be. I saw one of the civilians make up their mind. I watched as her finger flexes, shortening around the trigger. I saw the hammer inch towards the firing pin. Propellant ignited. Sparks flew and I absorbed their ephemeral trajectories in the air before they cooled and their brightness faded. I glanced at the martyr's face. She looked unchanged, satisfied. If they perceived time the way we did, would they have made the same choice? The bullet pierced skin, shattered bone, displaced brain matter, then bone and skin again. Red painted the earth. The martyr fell silent forever.
"You cannot claim to come in peace," one of them shouted, eyes full of tears. "These deaths are on your hands!"
More of them fired. Their blood streaked across the ground before our feet arrive. The soles of our plate crushed blood and dirt and pamphlet. I read one as I pass. It contains an explanation of our Culture, dropped on Rydene by the millions after our memetic influence had done its work to Rydene's networks. The Way of the Pillar was meant to free mankind, to build a society of self-actualization, merit, and volition. The planet was mostly empty now. Over the decades, many had left, some had joined. Only the most dogged held steadfast. The verbiage was still clear. No one was forced to come. Irrational and unfortunate. If I had the ability to feel sadness, I would have.
"Ready," Isodent Vlorin-24 ordered.
We prepared. Our sensor suites had felt the approach of walking vehicles when we had landed. They slipped into proprioceptor range and I felt their contours and the exact make of their weapons. They rounded the street corners and fired. Lasers bent around our dermal-fortress. Guided missiles fell to the glare of laser protectors. On their arm mounted weapons, plasma collected and discharged, the ionized particles guided by beams of electrons.
"Dispersing," the Ifrit said scornfully. Fields emanated from our dermal-fortresses, scattering the plasma. Hot particles washed harmlessly off our plates, pointlessly dilute.
I thought.
My rifle switched modes. The vacuum chambers filled with isotopes. Confinement built its energies until it was magnitudes hotter than the cores of stars. The Isodent painted a target on our comms. We fired at once. The atmosphere ignited with blinding radiance. Five beams of plasma met within picoseconds on the belly of the machine. The first walker began to fall. We aimed and fired again on another. The last of them went limp as the first landed. The dust began to billow from the impact. Soldiers jumped from nearby rooftops all around us, no doubt meant to have acted in concert with their walking machines. They had been there the whole time, waiting.
They landed beside us by the dozens. They were large for their race, bulked by genetic enhancements and their powered plate. Some of them neglected to wear a helmet. They died instantly to the laser protectors. The others brandished swords energized with cutting plasma meant to shear atomic bonds.
"Activating phonon shroud."
The Ifrit poured quantized vibrations over my dermal-fortress. The swords ricocheted a millimeter before touching my plate. One of their warriors attempted to aim up at my chest. I swatted the sword aside and swung my fist down, crushing his helmet. Red matter streamed out of the gaps. The rest came several at a time using their numbers and the closeness of melee to their perceived advantage.
I did not understand. There was no reason to fight. It was futile anyhow. They must have known this. The last of them stood their ground yet. Even as I shook his comrade's torso clean from my gauntlet. The top of his head met where my ribs began. Still he did not waver. My quindent remained unscathed.
"Why?" I asked.
"For Rydene!" He shouted.
This time I relieved the grenade from his hands and held it away. It detonated in my palm, singeing the ultracermet.
"Why do this?" I asked.
He laughed and without hesitation impaled himself on his own sword. His lifeless body poured into the earth.
"They die with honor to our Way in their rejection of it," I said.
"As is their choice to do so," the Isodent said. He lingered no longer. "Advance."
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My Ifrit reacted. It aimed the twin laser protectors peering over my shoulders. The bullets armed with explosives prematurely detonated within instants of leaving their barrels. Those with solid core penetrators warped mid-flight from my Ifrit's hateful gaze. Tungsten cores splashed across my dermal fortress's cuirass. The civilians winced and their signs wavered. Noise tested their conviction already, but they recovered.
Speaker drones flew overhead, repeating our message as it had done so for many of this planet's days.
"Entrance is not compelled. Relinquish those willing."
The message had always been unequivocal. Rydene's resistance was irrational and unfortunate. I said nothing. The other four members of my quindent said nothing. Our arms spoke, our tones were the barrels of our weapons and they rose in response to theirs.
I thought.
Solitons released from the vacuum chambers in the receivers of our rifles. The electromagnetic pulses propagated through the quantum fields at the basement of reality. The atmosphere was thrust out of the way, nary a hindrance as bolts of hardened light waved through the Rydenian militia's plates. If they were us, they might have been able to react quickly enough to minimize the damage. If their Ifrits—they called them assistors—had been sophisticated enough, they would have predicted the trajectories of our solitons.
The electromagnetic pulse in the air died as the last soliton bolt evacuated a smoldering gap through the chest of the remaining militiamen's chest. We advanced. The civilians continued their sign waving, but they made way nonetheless, surrounding us without coming close. A weak resistance snagged on my sabaton. My proprioceptor painted a three-dee image into my cognition, of a man on his last throes with one hand grasped on me and the other around a fusion grenade.
I heard the words, faint and dolorous, "For Rydene." Then I heard hydrogen isotopes fuse.
"Compensating," my Ifrit snarled, "Harmful energies ablated. Damage negligible."
But there were screams. The crowd had thinned considerably from that blast. The ones who were farther away writhed on the scarred earth with half-missing faces and limbs. Their signs fell. Slogan turned to sobbing and clumsy attempts to flee. We had been ordered not to hurt them. They damaged themselves more than anyone else.
"Advance," Isodent Vlorin-24 said.
We followed.
"Entrance is not compelled. Relinquish those willing."
The bunker laid ahead. A hundred thousand potential citizens of the Way were imprisoned there by the behest of their own government. It was a half-buried sphere of metal. Walls surround it, teeming with bartizans and emplacements. I felt through my dermal-fortress's sensor suite the charging of their capacitors.
"Hyper-polarizing," my Ifrit shouted.
Lasers fell upon my quindent like the tides. The skin of our plates swarmed with dipoles, reflecting all but one percent of a percent of the harmful energies. Nearby buildings fell from reflected lasers. The ground beneath our feet vaporized from the refraction. We fired back. Their guns became silent. Black smoke rose from the non-functional turrets. Figures walked towards us. I felt their image before I see them part the smoke. More citizens of Rydene. Some were ornamented, most dressed in plain clothes. They held pistols to their temples.
"If your kind come in kindness, then leave!" One of them shouted.
We continued walking, for our Isodent had not stopped.
"Please!" They were pleading. "Please leave our planet!" I saw the way their countenances change. Rain mixed with tears. Cheeks flushed with panic barely held together by thin skeins of undisciplined resolve.
"Release the people you have held captive," Vlorin-24 said. "They wish to join our Way. Their volition entitles them to our protection."
"They are brainwashed by your poisonous ideology. They are Rydene's children. You people have done enough damage!" Came the impassioned retort.
"We have never asked any more than your freedom to choose," Vlorin-24 says. "You hold those who chose us, hostage. We will be releasing them."
All things that had been said long before it ever arrived to this point. I watched, as curious as my warrior-therapy allowed me to be. I saw one of the civilians make up their mind. I watched as her finger flexes, shortening around the trigger. I saw the hammer inch towards the firing pin. Propellant ignited. Sparks flew and I absorbed their ephemeral trajectories in the air before they cooled and their brightness faded. I glanced at the martyr's face. She looked unchanged, satisfied. If they perceived time the way we did, would they have made the same choice? The bullet pierced skin, shattered bone, displaced brain matter, then bone and skin again. Red painted the earth. The martyr fell silent forever.
"You cannot claim to come in peace," one of them shouted, eyes full of tears. "These deaths are on your hands!"
More of them fired. Their blood streaked across the ground before our feet arrive. The soles of our plate crushed blood and dirt and pamphlet. I read one as I pass. It contains an explanation of our Culture, dropped on Rydene by the millions after our memetic influence had done its work to Rydene's networks. The Way of the Pillar was meant to free mankind, to build a society of self-actualization, merit, and volition. The planet was mostly empty now. Over the decades, many had left, some had joined. Only the most dogged held steadfast. The verbiage was still clear. No one was forced to come. Irrational and unfortunate. If I had the ability to feel sadness, I would have.
"Ready," Isodent Vlorin-24 ordered.
We prepared. Our sensor suites had felt the approach of walking vehicles when we had landed. They slipped into proprioceptor range and I felt their contours and the exact make of their weapons. They rounded the street corners and fired. Lasers bent around our dermal-fortress. Guided missiles fell to the glare of laser protectors. On their arm mounted weapons, plasma collected and discharged, the ionized particles guided by beams of electrons.
"Dispersing," the Ifrit said scornfully. Fields emanated from our dermal-fortresses, scattering the plasma. Hot particles washed harmlessly off our plates, pointlessly dilute.
I thought.
My rifle switched modes. The vacuum chambers filled with isotopes. Confinement built its energies until it was magnitudes hotter than the cores of stars. The Isodent painted a target on our comms. We fired at once. The atmosphere ignited with blinding radiance. Five beams of plasma met within picoseconds on the belly of the machine. The first walker began to fall. We aimed and fired again on another. The last of them went limp as the first landed. The dust began to billow from the impact. Soldiers jumped from nearby rooftops all around us, no doubt meant to have acted in concert with their walking machines. They had been there the whole time, waiting.
They landed beside us by the dozens. They were large for their race, bulked by genetic enhancements and their powered plate. Some of them neglected to wear a helmet. They died instantly to the laser protectors. The others brandished swords energized with cutting plasma meant to shear atomic bonds.
"Activating phonon shroud."
The Ifrit poured quantized vibrations over my dermal-fortress. The swords ricocheted a millimeter before touching my plate. One of their warriors attempted to aim up at my chest. I swatted the sword aside and swung my fist down, crushing his helmet. Red matter streamed out of the gaps. The rest came several at a time using their numbers and the closeness of melee to their perceived advantage.
I did not understand. There was no reason to fight. It was futile anyhow. They must have known this. The last of them stood their ground yet. Even as I shook his comrade's torso clean from my gauntlet. The top of his head met where my ribs began. Still he did not waver. My quindent remained unscathed.
"Why?" I asked.
"For Rydene!" He shouted.
This time I relieved the grenade from his hands and held it away. It detonated in my palm, singeing the ultracermet.
"Why do this?" I asked.
He laughed and without hesitation impaled himself on his own sword. His lifeless body poured into the earth.
"They die with honor to our Way in their rejection of it," I said.
"As is their choice to do so," the Isodent said. He lingered no longer. "Advance."
2021.09.06 17:19 History_Geek123 The 1960 Republican Convention The Swastika’s Shadow
The Republicans under President MacArthur have guided the nation for the last eight years. During his time in office, the hydrogen bomb was first tested, India & China developed closer ties, and the reconstruction of Japan was completed. Additionally, he has expanded the Department of Justice, which has lead to the strengthening of civil rights and the prosecution of several Southern politicians on voter fraud & intimidation allegations, which has fueled local support for George Lincoln Rockwell and his newly formed American Nazi Party. Now that he has served his two terms, the field is wide open with a diverse range of candidates vying for the nomination.
Thomas Dewey
The 58 year old incumbent VP from New York was the Presidential nominee in 1944 and a candidate in 48 & 52. He first rose to prominence as a District Attorney when he successfully prosecuted several high profile mafia members. He then served as the Governor of New York from 1943 to 1953. He is the leader of the Eastern Establishment and was instrumental in securing moderate support for MacArthur. He is in support of the infrastructure construction programs started by MacArthur, the nuclear & space programs, and current business regulations. However, he breaks from MacArthur with his support for a warming of relations with Germany, the return of social security, and the loosening of restrictions on trade unions.
Margaret Chase Smith
At 63 years old, the Senator from Maine is hoping to become the first female President, running with the slogan “Leave It to the Girls.” While she holds many of the same moderate positions on social issues as Dewey, she is against any and all attempts at detente and is also opposed to loosening restrictions on trade unions. She also believes that MacArthur didn’t go far enough in regards to the South and hopes to ban the KKK and further expand the Department of Justice.
Richard Nixon
The photogenic Senator from California has also thrown his hat into the ring. The youngest candidate at 47, he first rose to prominence during his time on the House Un-American Activities Committee and from his support for the Taft-Hartley Act, showing his disdain for radicalism of all stripes. When he moved to the Senate, he became a close ally of Sen. McCarthy and continued to maintain close connections with the members of the HUAC. It is even rumored that he is a close friend of FBI Director Hoover, as he has come up with highly detailed reports on all types of individuals seemingly out of thin air. In terms of policy, he is a bit more socially conservative than Dewey or Chase and is against any loosening of the restrictions on trade unions, but has adopted some more liberal economic views, as he believes that a robust industrial complex that works in close cooperation with the government is needed to maintain superiority over the Reich. He also shares some views with Chase on foreign policy, but is against relations with the Soviet Union.
George S. Patton
The 75 year old Chief of Staff of the United States Army and the second most well known general from the Pacific War has surprisingly announced a bid for the nomination after spending years defaming politics. He has been reprimanded on numerous occasions for making “unsavory” & “colorful” public comments on both domestic & foreign policy. He is the most conservative candidate in the running, with staunch opposition to government regulations and support for an expansion of the military being his main talking points. He also stated strong support for States Rights and has lamented the expansion of the bureaucracy, stating that if the laws were simply more strict & clear-cut, then the Federal government wouldn’t have to interfere in local affairs. He also agrees with Nixon on foreign affairs and wants to force other nations to also embargo Germany, to halt their economic growth and deprive them of the funding needed to fund their military and continue technological research.
1st Presidential Ballot
Dewey took the lead on the first ballot, with Smith close behind, Nixon in third, and Patton with a surprisingly strong showing in fourth. Dewey’s inability to secure a win or, at the very least, a large lead over the other candidates, effectively took all the steam out of his campaign and killed his chances before he even realized it.
2nd Presidential Ballot
Dewey’s support began to scatter, especially as no endorsement or any other sign of support came from MacArthur. When the totals came in, Dewey was tied with Smith and Patton surged to third as rumors began to spread of Nixon illegally using campaign funds.
3rd Presidential Ballot
Nixon was forced to drop out of the race as the allegations began to spread, resulting in Patton surging to the lead as Dewey also continued to bleed support. This caused panic among the liberals & moderates, as they were able tolerate MacArthur, but the prospect of Patton leading the party was too much to bear.
4th Presidential Ballot
Dewey announced that he would be withdrawing from the race and endorsing Smith. Party leaders took the hint and began to make moves & deals to get the delegates to vote for Smith. Smith took the lead, but Patton still had a sizable minority.
5th Presidential Ballot
Rumors appeared of certain “comments” that Patton made about black soldiers. Although later proven to be false, they rose enough doubts to swing undecided moderates toward Smith and she secured a sizable majority on the fifth ballot, giving her the nomination.
Vice Presidential Ballot
To please the conservative wing of the party and to also get someone with similar foreign policy views on the ticket, Smith met with Gov. William Knowland and offered him the spot. He accepted the offer and his name was put forward as the VP nominee, which he easily won.
For Vice President of the United States of America: William Knowland of California
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Thomas Dewey
The 58 year old incumbent VP from New York was the Presidential nominee in 1944 and a candidate in 48 & 52. He first rose to prominence as a District Attorney when he successfully prosecuted several high profile mafia members. He then served as the Governor of New York from 1943 to 1953. He is the leader of the Eastern Establishment and was instrumental in securing moderate support for MacArthur. He is in support of the infrastructure construction programs started by MacArthur, the nuclear & space programs, and current business regulations. However, he breaks from MacArthur with his support for a warming of relations with Germany, the return of social security, and the loosening of restrictions on trade unions.
Margaret Chase Smith
At 63 years old, the Senator from Maine is hoping to become the first female President, running with the slogan “Leave It to the Girls.” While she holds many of the same moderate positions on social issues as Dewey, she is against any and all attempts at detente and is also opposed to loosening restrictions on trade unions. She also believes that MacArthur didn’t go far enough in regards to the South and hopes to ban the KKK and further expand the Department of Justice.
Richard Nixon
The photogenic Senator from California has also thrown his hat into the ring. The youngest candidate at 47, he first rose to prominence during his time on the House Un-American Activities Committee and from his support for the Taft-Hartley Act, showing his disdain for radicalism of all stripes. When he moved to the Senate, he became a close ally of Sen. McCarthy and continued to maintain close connections with the members of the HUAC. It is even rumored that he is a close friend of FBI Director Hoover, as he has come up with highly detailed reports on all types of individuals seemingly out of thin air. In terms of policy, he is a bit more socially conservative than Dewey or Chase and is against any loosening of the restrictions on trade unions, but has adopted some more liberal economic views, as he believes that a robust industrial complex that works in close cooperation with the government is needed to maintain superiority over the Reich. He also shares some views with Chase on foreign policy, but is against relations with the Soviet Union.
George S. Patton
The 75 year old Chief of Staff of the United States Army and the second most well known general from the Pacific War has surprisingly announced a bid for the nomination after spending years defaming politics. He has been reprimanded on numerous occasions for making “unsavory” & “colorful” public comments on both domestic & foreign policy. He is the most conservative candidate in the running, with staunch opposition to government regulations and support for an expansion of the military being his main talking points. He also stated strong support for States Rights and has lamented the expansion of the bureaucracy, stating that if the laws were simply more strict & clear-cut, then the Federal government wouldn’t have to interfere in local affairs. He also agrees with Nixon on foreign affairs and wants to force other nations to also embargo Germany, to halt their economic growth and deprive them of the funding needed to fund their military and continue technological research.
1st Presidential Ballot
Dewey took the lead on the first ballot, with Smith close behind, Nixon in third, and Patton with a surprisingly strong showing in fourth. Dewey’s inability to secure a win or, at the very least, a large lead over the other candidates, effectively took all the steam out of his campaign and killed his chances before he even realized it.
2nd Presidential Ballot
Dewey’s support began to scatter, especially as no endorsement or any other sign of support came from MacArthur. When the totals came in, Dewey was tied with Smith and Patton surged to third as rumors began to spread of Nixon illegally using campaign funds.
3rd Presidential Ballot
Nixon was forced to drop out of the race as the allegations began to spread, resulting in Patton surging to the lead as Dewey also continued to bleed support. This caused panic among the liberals & moderates, as they were able tolerate MacArthur, but the prospect of Patton leading the party was too much to bear.
4th Presidential Ballot
Dewey announced that he would be withdrawing from the race and endorsing Smith. Party leaders took the hint and began to make moves & deals to get the delegates to vote for Smith. Smith took the lead, but Patton still had a sizable minority.
5th Presidential Ballot
Rumors appeared of certain “comments” that Patton made about black soldiers. Although later proven to be false, they rose enough doubts to swing undecided moderates toward Smith and she secured a sizable majority on the fifth ballot, giving her the nomination.
Vice Presidential Ballot
To please the conservative wing of the party and to also get someone with similar foreign policy views on the ticket, Smith met with Gov. William Knowland and offered him the spot. He accepted the offer and his name was put forward as the VP nominee, which he easily won.
The 1960 Republican Ticket
For President of the United States of America: Margaret Chase Smith of MaineFor Vice President of the United States of America: William Knowland of California
2021.09.05 02:09 History_Geek123 The 1960 Republican Convention The Swastika’s Shadow
 | The Republicans under President MacArthur have guided the nation for the last eight years. During his time in office, the hydrogen bomb was first tested, India & China developed closer ties, and the reconstruction of Japan was completed. Additionally, he has expanded the Department of Justice, which has lead to the strengthening of civil rights and the prosecution of several Southern politicians on voter fraud & intimidation allegations, which has fueled local support for George Lincoln Rockwell and his newly formed American Nazi Party. Now that he has served his two terms, the field is wide open with a diverse range of candidates vying for the nomination. submitted by History_Geek123 to Presidentialpoll [link] [comments] Thomas Dewey The 58 year old incumbent VP from New York was the Presidential nominee in 1944 and a candidate in 48 & 52. He first rose to prominence as a District Attorney when he successfully prosecuted several high profile mafia members. He then served as the Governor of New York from 1943 to 1953. He is the leader of the Eastern Establishment and was instrumental in securing moderate support for MacArthur. He is in support of the infrastructure construction programs started by MacArthur, the nuclear & space programs, and current business regulations. However, he breaks from MacArthur with his support for a warming of relations with Germany, the return of social security, and the loosening of restrictions on trade unions. Thomas Dewey, 36th Vice President of the United States Margaret Chase Smith At 63 years old, the Senator from Maine is hoping to become the first female President, running with the slogan “Leave It to the Girls.” While she holds many of the same moderate positions on social issues as Dewey, she is against any and all attempts at détente and is also opposed to loosening restrictions on trade unions. She also believes that MacArthur didn’t go far enough in regards to the South and hopes to ban the KKK and further expand the Department of Justice. Margaret Chase Smith, United States Senator from Maine Richard Nixon The photogenic Senator from California has also thrown his hat into the ring. The youngest candidate at 47, he first rose to prominence during his time on the House Un-American Activities Committee and from his support for the Taft-Hartley Act, showing his disdain for radicalism of all stripes. When he moved to the Senate, he became a close ally of Sen. McCarthy and continued to maintain close connections with the members of the HUAC. It is even rumored that he is a close friend of FBI Director Hoover, as he has come up with highly detailed reports on all types of individuals seemingly out of thin air. In terms of policy, he is a bit more socially conservative than Dewey or Chase and is against any loosening of the restrictions on trade unions, but has adopted some more liberal economic views, as he believes that a robust industrial complex that works in close cooperation with the government is needed to maintain superiority over the Reich. He also shares some views with Chase on foreign policy, but is against relations with the Soviet Union. Richard Nixon, United States Senator from California George S. Patton The 75 year old Chief of Staff of the United States Army and the second most well known general from the Pacific War has surprisingly announced a bid for the nomination after spending years defaming politics. He has been reprimanded on numerous occasions for making “unsavory” & “colorful” public comments on both domestic & foreign policy. He is the most conservative candidate in the running, with staunch opposition to government regulations and support for an expansion of the military being his main talking points. He also stated strong support for States Rights and has lamented the expansion of the bureaucracy, stating that if the laws were simply more strict & clear-cut, then the Federal government wouldn’t have to interfere in local affairs. He also agrees with Nixon on foreign affairs and wants to force other nations to also embargo Germany, to halt their economic growth and deprive them of the funding needed to fund their military and continue technological research. George S. Patton, Chief of Staff of the United States Army View Poll |