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2017.09.09 20:03 RalphiesBoogers Accidental Slapstick

Comedy based on deliberately clumsy actions and humorously embarrassing events happening by chance, unintentionally, or unexpectedly.
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2016.09.01 05:05 iSluff Once in a blue moon...

Once in a blue moon redditors almost transform into self aware creatures. Almost. Submit posts (from anywhere) where people unknowingly describe themselves. ("what did they say about someone else that really applied to them?") NB: Memes aren't people, they can't be Selfawarewolves.
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2024.05.12 17:10 WonderfulBad6644 Is this grade 7 worthy?

Hello I was wondering if someone could give me advice on how to improve for lit tomorrow and as the title says is it grade 7 worthy? Thanks
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Throughout the play Romeo and Juliet conflict rises and climaxes several times. We can see this conflict adapt from servants of the family fighting mindlessly to Romeo and Paris fighting for love. This development also creates a sense of a tragic hero and the drama of ‘everything for love’. This goes against the patriarchal society of the time where love was arranged by the parents, not the sons fighting for marriage.
In my opinion conflict is presented differently per character for example Tybalt says “Peace, i hate the word, as i hate hell, all Montagues and thee” First of all we can see that this is a biblical allusion and to a certain extent a simile associating Montagues as hell. This quote isnt directly during or after conflict however this is before it, the buildup. In this quote the noun “peace” represents Tybalt calling Benvolio and instigating conflict. As mentioned earlier this quotes and especially the biblical allusion is incredibly impulsive especially because of the patriarchal society that the play was written and performed in, because of this the audience would have been deeply religious being impacted and disgusted every time hell or any other negative way of Christianity showed itself. This impulsiveness is present throughout the play and is a real problem. This also leads on to how the saying nowadays of every action has consequence and this quote does as we see Tybalt get killed ironically from Romeo while being impulsive getting vengeance for Mercutio.
Mercutio is a odd character, we see him change due to the result of conflict. He is a prime example of the effects of conflict as he Tybalt caused his demise. “Plague on both your houses” shows the way he changes. Now Mercutio isn't exactly blood related to any o the two house therefore not directly in the “ancient grudge” however he seems to be biased with Montagues. “Plague” symbolizes illness and death in those times, therefore from this we can see how Mercutio changes from being on the side of the Montagues to then become a neutral like Paris and highlighting the idea that the “grudge” is pointless. However, there is another interpretation of him losing trust and respect for the Montagues, this is because Mercutio said this just after he gets stabbed because Romeo didn't honour his family and fight Tybalt. Therefore we see a sense of family honour which is something the audience would be familiar with, they didn't go to the extent to brawls on the street yet they would stand up for their family so for Romeo to back down it makes him looks bad and shows that he isn't the person Juliet or other people think he is.
However we can now see from the extract a different perspective of conflict, prince, from someone who is seen as a neutral within the play keeping law and order as such between the 2 families. “purple fountains issuing from your veins” is in my opinion a metaphor of the threat of death. This is backed up from the connotations of “purple” being royalty and “Fountain” being a metaphor for blood gushing and therefore death, suggesting that he threatens to kill them and so call spill their royal blood. In conjunction to this we can see within the extract that Prince is in my interpretation very similar to Benvolio in the sense of peace as seen from “Throw your mistempered weapons to the ground”. However this in itself is rather passive aggressive from describing the “Rebellious subjects” as “mistempered” which is childish and mockery to the two families. It could also suggest as mentioned in the paragraph above the impulsive and hasteful severe and impactful decisions being made on the spot. Therefore, there is a link between Benvolio and Paris in terms of conflict but not obvious. Contextually speaking the audience would be part of a patriarchal society where royalty would be the top of society, and for royals to kill other royals it is unheard of and would cause a stir within the audience.
Now for Romeo and Juliet, she isn't directly involved with physical conflict however I think there is another conflict which is a key factor in this play, the conflict with religion and fate. We can see from Juliet going against religion from the sense of suicide. “O happy dagger” backs up this idea from “happy” having connotations of being content and “dagger” of suicide. When you combines this is shows that she is content to commit suicide. As mentioned in the first analysis, the audience is religious, and there were two main sins of the time: being married twice and suicide, so this suicide would cause the audience to react and gasp as this is unheard of. We can also see from Romeo the defying of fate as seen from “I defy you stars”. If you combine this quote with “star cross’d lovers” it really shows just how much Romeo is trying to go against his destiny. “star cross’d” suggests that these two lovers get closer and closer until they reach a climax where they then ever get further away and finally if Romeo is trying to “defy” the “stars” it shows he is going against his fate and wants their relationship to last. I think this is quite a abstract analysis but is definitely meaningful within the play especially with the context of the time period.
Jekyll and Hyde
Jekyll and Hyde is an interesting story with several dynamics shifting throughout the novella one of these include good and evil and the duality of man. We can see this phenomenon show itself in several so called Victorian gentlemen, upright gentlemen of society supposedly meant to repress their negative feelings and refrain from enjoying themselves. Furthermore with Jekyll and Hyde showing the effects of this. Perhaps this shows Stevenson's opinion on society and the effects of him being repressed and held from society similar to the negatives in Jekyll for being a Victorian gentleman.
First of all we can see this from Utterson. Utterson is a Character which we see quite a bit yet we never get to know much about him however there are a few times in the short story where Stevenson informs us of this. “I incline to Caines heresy.” this is a very strong biblical illusion showing the audience of the feelings Utterson has. From the use of “Caines heresy” it links to the bible story which the audience, being a very Christian society, would know of. The story where a brother, “Caine”, kills his other brother, “abele” and then banished to hell, however this relates the negative feeling of lust as “Caine” was jealous of “abele.” The use of “incline” shows he is interested and similar to Caine and “heresy”, meaning lust and jealousy. When you combine these two connotations it presents Utterson as having a jealousy of being normal and expressing his evil side as such.
Now for Jekyll and the extract, here we can see just how Jekyll is thriving for the evil side of him, Hyde. Shown from “Sold a slave to my original evil.” This is an example of another biblical allusion as the “original evil” represents the devil. The use of “my” might seem very insignificant to the overall allusion however there is another interpretation of how “my” shows its in him, so the devil is inside of him. This really shows the twisted and confusing nature of this novella where it revolves around how repressing your emotions gradually causes your evil, aggressive and inhumane to become stronger and stronger, also linking to animalistic feature of inhumane. Therefore contextually speaking the recent publication of Charles Darwin theory of evolution caused a stir within society and the idea of evolution and all animals come from a common ancestor would make the readers consider the implications of keeping emotions to yourself and the effects of this.
We now go back to Jekyll, showing yet another biblical allusion of “My devil has been long caged, he came out roaring.” This quote as mentioned is a biblical allusion but this time presenting animalistic features. This quote shows the animalistic nature within humans and how this may be evil. First of all “My devil” showing Jekyll possesses a devil, firstly this is shocking for the audience as they are god fearing and the reference of devil would scare them somewhat, but perhaps this shows more of Stevenson as a person, the frequent repetition of “devil” throughout the novella suggesting he has a devil inside of him and this is his only way of expressing it. “Long caged” representing the time of which his “devil” has been repressed and hidden away, perhaps a representation of his negative and harmful emotions. “He came out Roaring”, now there is two interpretations of this. One of them is showing that the “devil” which has been “long caged” physically came out roaring in a human manor, this can be represented as Hyde. However, the other interpretation is “roaring” symbolises strength as seen in nature with a lion’s roar showing his dominance over other males and prey.
Back to the extract, “i passed the yard where the constellations looked down on me.” this is really a personification of the constellations as the physically cannot “look down on him”, however you can go deeper then this and interpret is as a metaphor about god, how he is always watching and keeping a close eye backed up from the verb “looked”. However this can also suggest that his so called good part of Jekyll is still present and fighting for superiority, this is because it creates a sense of guilt and regret, however the bad side of Jekyll is getting too strong for even god to fix, showing the audience that you shouldn't mess with science or go against religion.
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2024.05.10 22:24 Davidgogo What is Al-Salat?

Before we get into the main debate of what is Al-Salat, allow me to summarize the latest research in the field of mindful meditation and ritualistic chanting. And how it all ties into the freeing of our minds to become more rational, positive, forward looking and grounded.
I will touch on a few findings and give the links to the relevant studies at the bottom of this write-up.
Feeling like your thoughts are in a never-ending loop?
Ever find yourself obsessing over a work email you sent, wondering if you could've worded it better? Or maybe replaying a social interaction that didn't go as smoothly as you hoped? That’s what the relevant experts call rumination, and it’s like your brain is stuck in a loop, fixating on moments you wish you could redo.
Understanding Rumination: Think of your brain as a high-powered, incredibly efficient processor. When you're ruminating, it's as if this processor is running an inefficient program that's draining your mental battery, like when your laptop keeps overheating from too many open tabs. That would be me.
A few words on OCD: Now imagine your brain relentlessly bombarding you with intrusive thoughts, like a nagging doubt about whether you turned off the stove, even though you’ve checked it multiple times. Even more disturbing is when you try to assign blame to yourself for disasters miles away from you.
Intrusive thoughts: Why they happen and how to deal with them.
Occasionally, you’re minding your own business when a weird – and sometimes disturbing or upsetting – thought pops into your head. Why does your brain do this, and does it mean that you’re a bad person? Or even losing your mind. So, what is going on?
The Sci-Fi of Your Brain: The Default Mode Network (DMN): This network is like your brain’s background app. It’s most active when you're not focusing on the task at hand. It’s what kicks in when you’re showering and suddenly start overanalyzing a conversation from five years ago.
So, what is the fix?
Well, it so happens that meditation experience is associated with differences in default mode network activity and connectivity.
Hacking Your Brain’s Default Mode: The goal is to shift your brain from a state of unproductive rumination to proactive problem-solving. It's like choosing to focus on strategizing your career path or planning your next big adventure instead of dwelling on past mistakes.
The Power of Rituals and Chanting: Incorporating rituals or chanting might sound old-school, but it’s like a mental reset button. Starting your day with a mindfulness exercise or repeating affirmations like "I am capable and strong" can steer your mind away from intrusive thoughts and towards more constructive patterns.
Real Science Backs This Up: Regular practice over 4 to 6 weeks can rewire your brain, enhancing its ability to plan and solve problems – akin to updating your personal software to improve performance and efficiency in every aspect of your life.
The Bottom Line: It’s not about erasing your repetitive behavior; it's about updating your mental toolkit. You're not just stopping the negative cycles; you're starting positive ones. It's a mental upgrade, ensuring your brain is as optimized and forward-thinking as you are in your career and personal life.
There is growing evidence that simple, everyday changes to our lives can alter our brains.
That brings us to the Question, did God cover this extremely important part of our make up in the Quran? Where one can reset our brain’s neural networks in a matter of weeks and pull oneself back into the sphere of rationality from a reactionary emotional mess.
Two things are incessantly emphasized in the Quran, the establishing of Al-Salat and giving thought. Given this backdrop, we will now explore the wisdom behind how to achieve it through the verses of the Quran.
Unfortunately, there is a minority of folks out there who have failed to recognize the true wisdom behind the three times a day grounding exercise through Al-Salat. This lot has irrationally taken upon themselves to go against almost every culture out there and declare rituals as something bad. They then strangely identify Al-Salat as merely a ritual and then attempted to explain it away with linguistic gymnastics. Perhaps the important physical elements of it have thrown them off. I feel this is an emotional route. Rituals are not inherently bad. In terms of religion this is a reactionary approach. Just because bad religions use rituals doesn’t mean all rituals lose currency.
To be clear we will be discussing Al-Salat the noun. Repeated sixty-six times in the Quran (Salat is mentioned 99 times in all its forms). Once as plural and the rest of the time as singular. In fact, I view it as an aid and much closer to mindful meditation. Equating Al-Salat with meditation is very tempting. Especially when long-term practitioners of the ‘art’ put a lot of emphasis on awareness. As opposed to emptying one’s mind and all that jazz. Dhikr and be conscious (ٱتَّقِ), wrongly translated as fear, fits perfectly well here.
The very word Salat predates the revelation of Quran. This is not a new word, the word most probably migrated from Classical Syriac. The spelling of Salat differs from earlier Arabic literature, where ‘waw’ was often used instead of ‘Alif’. The pronunciation stays the same. Not surprisingly Quran mentions a number of earlier Prophets/Messengers engaged in Al-Salat.
Another thing to keep in mind is that both Al-Salat and Al-Zakat are mentioned together a total of 32 times in the Quran. Another 5 times the word spend is used in conjunction to remove any doubt as to what is meant by Al-Zakat. Out of the remaining 27 times Al-Salat is mentioned, 11 and possibly 12 times in instructional verses. Hence, a mere 15 out of a total of 66 mentions of Al-Salat are verses that decouple Al-Salat and Zakat, all the rest of noninstructional verses establish a very strong link between them. The significance of these exact numbers is perhaps a subject of separate research but this much is clear, they are intertwined in a very profound way. We should keep this link in mind when defining A-Salat and Al-Zakat.
The Quran, in addition to reminding us of our forgetful nature, also defines the three main objectives of Al-Salah. A prescribed prayer at designated times is a perfect cure for forgetful nature. The three objectives are:
  1. Dhikr (Remembrance for want of a better term) Quran 20:14
  2. To seek help from God Quran 2:45 and
  3. The prevention of immorality and “evil” deeds Quran 29:45 and 19:59
Bonus effect: When Al-Salat and giving of Al-Zakat are clubbed together, it strengthens our certainty of faith in the hereafter. Quran 27:3. Once again we should keep this association in mind when attempting to define either of them.
If we were to ignore these three objectives and the one stated benefit, the distinction between Dhikr, praise and Al-Salat is blurred for starters (please see note 1 below), resulting in less than ideal conclusions. Two of the three objectives points to a one-way connection/communication. And to this day the word Al-Salat and to a greater degree simply Salat carries the same connotation in the Arabic language. Ministry of communication is called ‘wizarat alaitisalat’ (وزارة الاتصالات).
The third objective seems to be a passive result as opposed to active engagements of the first two. The overarching issue has to do with attention and emotion. Possibly linked to all high physiological arousal reactions like anger, lust, panic or anxiety and even insomnia. Hence, remedial measures must be undertaken to control them. More importantly, certain behavior and environment must be avoided in order not to accentuate unhealthy dose of these human responses. The goal is to reach the observed Gamma wave level meditation that heightens empathy and compassion. Which are counterweights to ‘evil’ tendances. Any way, we are in no position to second guess God on it and science agrees with God.
Let’s go through some of the definitions put forward by analysts for A-Salat. Restricting Al-Salat to a ‘Connection’ of late has become popular. Although linguistically accurate but substance wise is deficient. In that case clapping and whistling is a great way to make a connection. Why would God not accept that? Besides, calling Al-Salat a connection is like calling water wet, accurate but devoid of any real substance.
One school of thought have argued that Al-Salat is referred to as a system of governance or social justice. For me, if that was the case then in sixty six repetitions of the word in the Quran, God would have mentioned it at least once. It is also important to note that when God wants us to establish the system, the Deen, He says just that "establish the Deen" (أقيموا الدين) Quran 42:13.
Besides if we were to take Al-Salat as ‘the’ system then are we to establish three ‘the’ systems? Al-Fajr, Al-Isha and Al-Wusta, and how are they different? Right there is your first logical contradiction. This is compounded by the fact that Quran also refers to Al-Salat in the plural form, Al-Salawati Quran 2:238:3.
Coming back to the issue of ritual, In Quran 2:43 it says " bow with those who bow" a ‘ritual’ act. And in other verses the standing bowing (form can be different) and supplication is mentioned together in the same verses Quran 22:26 and 2:125, clearly pointing to a ‘ritual’ (clarity on this below). God also warns us against empty rituals Quran 2:177 hence an implied nonempty ritual can be deduced from it. In fact, God points out the distortion of the Salat and describe it in these terms “And not was their prayer at the House except whistling and clapping ......”. It is clear from this that this distortion was from some form of correct way of performing Al-Salat. No amount of imagination can distort a whole ‘System’ and reduce it to ‘whistling and clapping’. Besides, the verse clearly points to a particular location as opposed to a city or state. Which would have been the case if Salat was a system.
There are a few dissenting voices beside the system crowd. Let me first deal with one school that has split the Al-Salat to mean ‘following closely’ on one hand and introduce the notion of a congressional Salat or gathering to discuss matters of Deen. When the prefix ‘the’ is added onto ‘the following closely’ it becomes nonsensical. Furthermore, Quran 62:9-10 specifically deals with the Al-Salat performed in a congregational settings. Hence, that clearly shoots down that particular notion or at least the second part of the split. There is no basis for this splitting Al-Salat in the Quran.
Even if we were to entertain the notion, there are a number of difficulties inherent in this approach. Since Al-Salat is decreed upon all believers, forcing young mothers with small children to show up at least twice a day to discuss Deen betrays a male mind doing its thing. God informs us that He doesn't put undue burden on us. Performing Al-Salat three times in the comfort of one's home makes much more sense and is doable.
Young mothers, a sizable portion of any community, can manage that but leaving home twice and participating in any meaningful Deen discussion is a totally different proposition. A minimum one hour turn around for each Salat is being generous. To first instruct believers over 60 times to establish Al-Salat and then give 30 to 40 percent adults a pass is not only illogical but dilutes the importance of Al-Salat all together.
Now when we take into consideration people living in remote areas where the next house is several miles away, these regular sessions start to look like a nonstarter. Add to it adverse weather conditions and the idea of ‘sessions’ as far as I am concerned was dead on arrival.
Another logical difficulty in accepting the notion of a separate meeting/ gathering to discuss Deen is that as per Quran 62:9 after the prayer is concluded, we are then to disperse in the land to seek from God's bounty. The thing to note here is that the Al-Salat is supposed to conclude. That means it will have to be initiated with a new beginning each time. While it is logical to seek God's bounty after the congressional Al-Salat, which is stated to be in the daytime, but it is illogical to disperse in the land after the Isha Al-Salat and seek God's bounty. God is explicit in telling us that night is for rest.
Following as opposed to following closely above and/or commitment is another alternative to the traditional Al-Salat presented without a clear explanation except for a remote linguistic argument. Following or committing to what? Establishing The Deen is a separate endeavor, as mentioned above, that is where we are supposed to follow and commit to. And how do you "establish" ‘the’ following or ‘the’ commitment? Grammatically it doesn't make sense. Logically it clashes with the primary meaning of (أَقَامُوا) which has the connotation of standing still or setting something, which is the opposite of following or motion.
Furthermore, why doesn't following include giving zakat? Why is Al-Zakat mentioned and not simply Zakat all the time? Why is Al-Zakat mentioned with Al-Salat as something separate twenty-five times out of a total of twenty-nine? Purifying wealth by giving it away makes perfect sense and is an integral part of The Deen but purifying as an abstract notion alone is not from the Quran. In fact, God has gone ahead and used the word ‘spend’ (أنفق) multiple times with Al-Salat in instances where Al-Zakat is not mentioned. Quran 2:3, 8:3, 13:22, 14:31, 22:35, 35:29, 42:38. God goes ahead and use the same word in negation in another verse, Quran 9:54 to remove all doubt.
If we were to understand the standing bowing and supplication as a ‘ritual’, it does not contradict any of the verses where Al-Salat is mentioned. (Please see all instances of Al-Salat mentioned in the Quran below Note 3). But when a piece meal approach is taken then Salat, Hajj, fasting all can be made to mean different things based on how they appear in certain verses. The test is to reach conclusions without once introducing contradictions into all the instances where the notion and related words are used.
Whenever the word Salat is used without the ‘Al’, the context of those verses is self-explanatory, like Quran 9:84, 9:103, 33:56. But if we were to assume that Al-Salat could not mean ‘ritual’ then we are left with a lot of verses that have to be explained away in a manner that either border on contradiction or crosses into it. A Quranic impossibility.
Allow me to elaborate a bit more on the proposed system (Social system, Justice system, Socioeconomic system) aspect. How did the Prophet of God implement social order? Did he go around and repeatedly tell people that they should establish social order and social justice? Obviously not.
In fact, the people he was preaching to believed that they already have a social and justice system in place. Merely telling them that they should replace one social and justice system with another was not going to cut it. Besides, God in the Quran has detailed the various element of a just social order. By not focusing on these details and instead resorting to merely telling people to do something and that too in a high-level abstract manner is unlikely to bore results. If it was so easy, then unleashing a flock of trained parrots on them would be the most cost-effective way to bring about behavior change. God would never repeatedly waste words on such an unwise strategy. It is a testament to God’s wisdom that to establish The Deen (The actual social order) Quran 42:13 is mentioned just once in the entire Quran.
That brings us to the real issue of behavior change. Behavior changes and that too of a fundamental nature must start with individuals. It is easy to rile a crowd in a negative way but to establish and implement good needs behavior change on an individual level. This is important because in order to bring about change in a community we need influencers; we need role models. The commercial types have nailed this to the wall. They spend real and big money to get the services of influencers. In order to implement a new social order, we need individuals from whom everything good and proper literally drips. People flock to genuinely good people. Genuinely good people leading disciplined lives are in a best position to implement good change.
What is the best strategy to bring about changes amass but focus on an individual? The first element that must be identified and agreed upon is the Change Method. Mindful meditation as a change method is in itself a powerful tool for self-growth. And when mindful meditation is based on specific Divine instructions it becomes a force multiplier. Not only does meditation develop all the various faculties but it also establishes a regular communication with God.
The practice of meditation can be found in almost all cultures. Modern thinking had been suspicious of the practices and till recently altogether dismissed it as a pseudo mumbo-jumbo. The crazy part in all this was, and still lingers on, is that even when practitioners swear by it, the skeptics stick to their guns. Dozens of scientific studies have put the matter to rest. Not only does mindful meditation alter behavior but studies have shown it alters the physiology of the brain towards good. It was not surprising then that it was a matter of time before it was introduced into mainstream medicine.
Mindful meditation in all its forms is about doing something as opposed to talking about it. This is consistent with all successful behavior change techniques. Habit forming acts help change behavior and prolonged behavior change processes result in change in attitudes. Eventually leading to a desired character. Al-Salat is an ideal Change Method, one of the most fundamental elements in behavior change theory.
Instead of dishing the Al-Salat, when done in a mindful manner, first, ask the people who are engaged in it. It is a simple process, ask them if it helps them become closer to God and prevents them from immoralities. God in fact, warns us about empty ritual as already stated, God does not dismiss rituals as such. The message of the Quran is focused on individuals. We will be judged solely on what we did or did not do individually. God does not even force us to change a chaotic hopeless community, God actually makes it mandatory on those with means to extract themselves from such communities. To blame those engaged in self-improvement on all the ills of the world is a strange position.
When likeminded individuals decide on forming a community then God has given details of how individuals should interact among themselves. The implementation of a social just order falls on those who have already worked on themselves and already achieved a clear sense of right and wrong and have learnt to live a disciplined lifestyle. A just social order is not implemented by undisciplined individuals through vague instructions thrown at them. But individuals respond to precise instructions to be carried out at specific times in order to bring about positive changes towards self-improvement.
One of the objectives of Salat is Dhikr as mentioned above and one of the dangers of neglecting Dhikr is (ضَنْكًا), a position of difficulty, perplexity, distress, or need. Quran 20:124. Keeping in mind the forgetful nature of man, what better way to ensure engaging in Dhikr at least three time a day than establishing Mindful meditation in the form of Al-Salat. With the added physical elements of standing bowing and prostration ensure body and mind workout. Add to it the ritual washing in preparation of Al-Salat and you have all the necessary building blocks of a well-rounded development. And regularly asking God for help during Salat is a bonus.
It is a serious overreach to dismiss easily understood terms and try and twist them to mean something vague and far removed from their default meanings. Since God is privy to the future then why would God first reference the Arabic language and then insert terms along with the mention of Al-Salat that would make Al-Salat evolve to mean something completely different to the coming generations? This would neither be preserving the message nor make it easy to understand.
Instead of blaming mindless Al-Salat and altogether getting rid of it, we should promote mindful Al-Salat. To twist Jonathan Sacks’s words
“The cure for bad Al-Salat is good A-Salat, not no Al-Salat, just as the cure for bad science is good science, not the abandonment of science.”
Hence, when we take Quran 4:101 to 4:103 together, a logical slam dunk materializes. There are three aspects in these three verses. The first is that Al-Salat has a beginning for which a call is made. The second aspect is that Al-Salat has a conclusion. (The word used in Quran 4:103 for this is (قضيتم). Attempts have been made to twist this very clear term. But it is clear to any Arabic speaker that almost all connotations of this word point to coming to an end.) The third is that Al-Salat can be shortened. All in a course of a day or part of a single day. In addition, it shoots down some of the linguistics gymnastics that are initiated to try and prove that Al-Salat has no ritualistic aspects to it.
Those who have declared that standing, bowing and prostration doesn’t mean physical activities then after the Al-Salat is concluded, what are we to make of standing sitting and laying on one’s side? (The remembering aspect is repeated in Quran 3:191 in these exact terms). So, are we to engage in the remembrance of God first in a non-ritualistic manner and then conclude doing so but at the same time continue to remember God again in non-ritualistic manner.
Hence, standing doesn’t mean standing during A-Salat and apparently standing doesn’t mean standing after its conclusion. Let us keep in mind that during Al-Salat, Quran gives us a sequence of physical steps that is standing, bowing and prostration in the relevant verse. Then it gives us a slightly different sequence of physical states after its conclusion of standing, siting and lying on one’s side. The genius of the Quran is that whenever somebody wants to twist straightforward wording of God, Quran takes it to them till they are forced to see sense. It is no surprise the that for them to make their claim plausible they essentially have to rewrite the meaning of commonly understood everyday use words. Although, the etymology of these words has not changed at all to this day.
Then when you (have) finished the Al-Salat, then remember Allah standing and sitting and (lying) on your sides. But when you are secure then establish the Al-Salat. Indeed, the Salat is on the believers prescribed (at) fixed times. Quran 4:103
In any case, the mention of Circumambulation in Quran 2:125 along with standing, bowing, and prostration firmly points to physical acts. There is some discussion of the word for prostration being the adjective qualifying bowing but then there is Quran 3:43 where they are separated by an “and” after reversing the order of occurrence. In either case, it is still a physical act. Although there is no indication of stringing them together other than the order in which they are mentioned. But the way I see it that is consistent with God's mercy of not making it too rigid. This gives us the flexibility to do it in a manner that suits the needs of each one of us.
The notion that standing bowing prostration doesn't mean all those things because their use in some verses points to a different context is strange. If we were to reverse this logic and make those different contexts as the baseline, then standing should not mean standing anywhere in the Quran. Besides, how will ‘following closely’ or ‘social justice’ or ‘system’ resolve this objection?
At least in the case of submission of birds and seemingly innate objects Quran 24:41, please note that the term used is not Al-Salat. In any case we must keep in mind Quran 3:7. All verses with injunctions are not in need of seeking the help of Quran 3:7. But here is when the allegorical references within verses applies. God is giving us a sense of what is going on by the use of familiar terms like Salat, (note the verse did not use Al-Salat) and prostration which He has already taught us, and we know exactly what they mean. God also warns us that we should not take these context specific terms in instances like these and run with them. All the other above-mentioned proposals won’t even make sense with the application of Quran 3:7.
Besides, by that logic then glorifies shouldn’t mean glorifies because that is exactly what all creation of God does. Quran 61:1
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Anybody else hypersensitive to spelling and grammar mistakes made by yourself and others?
I just used the incorrect indefinite article to describe something (used “an” instead of “a,” even though the proceeding noun started with a consonant :/), and now I want to delete the entire comment because of it. I cannot believe I typed that out and glossed over it when double-checking before publishing my reply.
I always fight back urges to correct people in-person and online because of it. Social media comment sections are the worst for me, because mistakes are ~everywhere~! There/theithey’re, youyou’re, then/than, and affect/effect are examples of the ones that drive me the most insane!
If any of you guys are the same way, what are some grammar and spelling mistakes that drive you crazy? Also, do you have any tips on how to not be so hard on yourself for making those types of mistakes? They are bound to happen eventually even if I try my hardest not to make any errors, so I am in search of a healthy coping strategy to deal with said errors!
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2024.05.01 21:26 Informal_Patience821 Songs of Solomon: Prophecies of Muhammad, Moses, and Jesus (in Ch. 1, 5 & 6) - Refuting the Christian Blasphemous "SoNgS oF SoLoMoN aRe ErOtIc StOrIeS" Excuse

In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
I greet you all with the Quranic greeting of Peace: Peace be upon you all (Salamu 'alaykum) :)!

Introduction:

This will be a longer post because I will be interpreting three chapter in Songs of Solomon. Chapter 1, 5 and 6.
It becomes evident upon careful observation that these chapters primarily hold a prophetic essence, but poetic and a bit cryptic in nature. However, the chapter dedicated to Moses (Chapter 1) most likely serves as a recounting of his life story, albeit in a subtle manner, because Solomon is thought to have come after Moses in history. Nevertheless, it undeniably pertains to Moses. Chapter 5 focuses on Muhammad, while Chapter 6 revolves around both Jesus and his mother, the Virgin Mary. Shall we proceed with the exploration? Let's start with Chapter 1, the one about prophet Moses.

1. Songs of Solomon Chapter 1 - Moses:

Verse 2: בישקני מנשיקות פיהו כי־טובים דדיך מיין:
The verse says the words: "with kisses from kisses of his mouth." In this context, "מנשיקות" does not necessarily refer to physical kisses but symbolizes "Revelations." Therefore, "מנשיקות פיהו" translates to "from the utterances of His mouth" or "from the words of His mouth," signifying divine communication or revelation, not physical affection.
This is explained in Hebrew dictionaries:
Heb: נְשִׁיקוּת (f.)
"(preced.) attachment, love. Cant. R. to I, 2 יוציא לי קול נ׳ וכ׳ may He issue forth unto me the voice of attachment."
Also:
Heb: נְשִׁיקָה f. (b. h.; נָשַׁק) 1) kissing, kiss. Gen. R. s. 70; Ex. R. s. 5, a. e. נ׳ של גדולה the kiss of homage; נ׳ של פרקים the kiss of meeting again; נ׳ של פרישות the kiss of parting; נ׳ של קריבות the kissing of relations. Deut. R. s. 11, end ונטל … בנְשִׁיקַת פה and took his (Moses’) soul with a kiss of the mouth. B. Bath. 17ᵃ מרים נמי בנ׳ מתה Miriam, likewise, died with a (divine) kiss (without agony); M. Kat. 28ᵃ. Ber. 8ᵃ נ׳ דמיא וכ׳ death without agony is like taking &c., v. בִּינְתָא II; a. fr.—Pl. נְשִׁיקוֹת. Ex. R. l. c. Cant. R. to I, 2 מה"ש אמרוהו יתן לנו מנ׳ וכ׳ the ministering angels said the verse, ‘May he give us of those kisses which he gave to his sons’ (at Mount Sinai). Ib. בסיני נאמרה יוציא לנו נ׳ מתוך פיהו at Mount Sinai the verse was said (by the Israelites), ‘May he let kisses go forth to us out of his mouth’; a. e. —2)
Source: Both excerpts are from Jastrow's classical Hebrew dictionary.

Verse 3: גלריח שמניך טובים שמן תורק שמך על־כן עלמות אהבוך

The phrase: "גלריח שמניך טובים שמן תורק שמך":
The interpretation, as Rabbi Ezra has it:
Ezra ben Solomon on Song of Songs 1:3:2:
"Your name is like oil poured forth: Your name is like fine oil, poured from one vessel into another. The seventy names are emanated from the seven sefirot. tiferet and the Crown are for Israel, the singular people, for Israel nurse from the trunk of the tree, tiferet and Crown, all joined as one. But its aroma travels a great distance. So too Your name increases and is poured forth as pure light to shekhinah, which is contained and sealed into all. Counting her they are seventy-two. This is the meaning of “therefore the maidens love you.”
Now that we know what the first part of the verse means, let's see what the actual definition of Moses' name is in Hebrew, according to Jews themselves:
"The first and most obvious is the definition of Moses, draw out of water. Pharaoh’s daughter indeed drew Moses out of water, the waters of the Nile. She drew him out of the one of the most significant gods of Egypt, Hepi a fertility god who was the god of the annual flooding of the Nile. The flood deposited fertile soil on the river banks. Why was Pharaoh’s daughter’s at the Nile? It says in Exodus 2:5 that she came to wash herself or to bathe. Bathe in the sacred waters, not likely, especially a daughter of Pharaoh who took luxurious baths in tubs filled with all sorts of fragrances like myrrh and frankincense. The word used in Hebrew here for washing or bathing is rachats which means to pour water upon yourself. "
Source: https://www.chaimbentorah.com/2018/04/hebrew-word-study-moses/
Note: "to pour water upon yourself."
The third verse subtly yet unmistakably alludes to Moses, using poetic and metaphorical language. This is particularly evident when considering Moses' role in anointing Aaron and his sons as priests, as instructed by God in Exodus 29:7:
"Then take the anointing oil and anoint him by pouring it on his head." (Exodus 29:7)
Another notable event involving Moses is the anointing of the Tabernacle and its furnishings. Exodus 40:9-11 directs Moses to anoint the Tabernacle and all its contents with oil:
"Then take the anointing oil and anoint the tabernacle and everything in it; consecrate it and all its furnishings, and it will be holy."

Verse 4: משכני אחריך נרוצה הביאני המלך חדריו נגילה ונשמחה בך נזכירה דדיך מיין מישרים אהבוך:

The KJV translation:
"Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee."
My translation:
"Pull me along with you1, we will desire the king to bring me his chambers, we will rejoice in Baka2, we will remember your love, my Egyptian3, my beloved."
Explanations:
1: In Hebrew, the term "רוּץ" (rutz) translates to "run." This could be interpreted in the context of Moses assisting the daughters of Jethro, as narrated in both the Bible and the Quran. It's worth noting that the Bible doesn't specify that Moses had seven daughters; this discrepancy likely arises from the mistranslation of "Shava" (possibly referring to Saba, the Yemeni city), which the Masoretes erroneously rendered as "Sheva" (seven), as they have done every other time the city Saba was mentioned in the Bible (the "well of Seven" instead of "Well of Saba" etc).
2: The Hebrew phrase "ונשמחה בך" appears suspect. The Codex Sinaiticus suggests "βοωϲιν" (Bocin), which can be interpreted as "to cry" (correlating with "Bakka" in Hebrew and Arabic, meaning "cry"). The Greek word "βοωϲιν" may also connote "heifer" or "young cow," rooted in the verb "βοάω" (boaō), meaning "to cry out."
The Codex Sinaiticus:
"βοωϲιν το ονομα τηϲ νυμ"
It's worth noting that Google's speech recognition and search algorithms have trouble processing this word for some reason, often substituting "βοώσιν" instead of "βοωϲιν." It can just be that this specific word is a very ancient word and is not recognized, but I doubt it because it is refusing to even pronounce it, and Google even forcefully changes it into "βοώσιν" in its search results.
3: The term "משרי" (mishri) translates to "Egyptian" or "from Egypt" and aligns with the Arabic term for "Egyptian" (i.e., Masri). The verse is literally saying that he is from Egypt, not necessarily an Egyptian, but from that location, just as Moses was (where he grew up).
It has by now become very evident that this is about Moses.

Verse 5: השחורה אני ונאוה בנות ירושלים כאהלי קדר כיריעות שלמה:

The "bride" says:
"Black am I, yet lovely, daughters of Jerusalem, dark like the tents of Kedar, like the tent curtains of Solomon."
Zipporah, the wife of Moses, was a woman of black ethnicity from Ethiopia. She resided in Arabia, where the tents of Kedar were situated.

Verse 9: "I compare you, my darling, to a mare among Pharaoh’s chariots."

This verse even makes a literal allusion to the era of Moses. It is becoming increasingly challenging not to recognize this chapter for what it is. One might wonder why the Rabbis of old did not disclose that this Song was an account of Moses' life. If they had, it would also imply that any other Song mentioning both Jesus and Muhammad could potentially be prophetic. The notion that these Songs are merely love stories or erotica between Solomon and his brides would quickly unravel before our very eyes.
Let's move on to Chapter 6, the one about Jesus and Mary.

2. Songs of Solomon ch. 6, Jesus and Mary:

Verses 2-3: "My beloved has gone down to his garden, to the beds of spices, to browse in the gardens and to gather lilies. I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine, he who shepherds his flock among the lilies.”
This is mirroring Matthew 6:28-29:
“And why worry about your clothing? Look at the lilies of the field and how they grow. They don’t work or make their clothing, yet Solomon in all his glory was not dressed as beautifully as they are.
Jesus is referred to as a shepherd in the gospels, and here he is described as browsing in the garden shepherding his flock among the lilies. He also explicitly refers to Solomon for some remarkable reason, and it is only now that we can clearly see why he mentioned Solomon: To quite literally refer back to Songs of Solomon ch. 6 because it was prophesying him and his mother. Can't get any clearer than this.
Verses 5-6:"Turn your eyes from me; they overwhelm me. Your hair is like a flock of goats descending from Gilead. Your teeth are like a flock of sheep coming up from the washing. Each has its twin, not one of them is missing."
Mirroring Jesus as a shepherd´and his ascent and descent from heaven.
Luke 15:3-7: "Then Jesus told them this parable: “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?"
He says "...go after the lost sheep until he finds it?" precisely mirroring the verse in SoS 6:6: "like a flock of sheep coming up from the washing. Each has its twin, not one of them is missing"
During Jesus' time on earth, Gilead was part of the broader region known as Perea, which was governed by Herod Antipas, son of Herod the Great. Jesus traveled throughout the regions of Judea and Perea, as mentioned in passages such as Luke 13:22. The Chapter is mentioning the exact location where Jesus ministry took place.
The words "Descending" and "coming up" are also mentioned here and seem very cryptic, mirroring his ascent into heaven and his descent, the second coming. I believe Jesus second coming already has taken place, shortly after the crucifixion happened. God saved him (and made a crucifixion of Jesus appear to them) and lifted him up into heaven. Jesus then came back to them (as is mentioned in the gospel of Luke, chapter 24, verses 36-43). During this second visit, he did not promise them to come back yet another time, but rather promised that "another" advocate would come to them (we will talk about this by the end of this post, let's focus on this chapter now).
Verses 8-9: "Sixty queens there may be, and eighty concubines, and virgins beyond number; My dove, my perfect one, is unique, the favorite of her mother, flawless to her who bore her. The maidens saw her and called her blessed; the queens and concubines also, and they praised her."
Mirroring the Virginity and innocence of Mary.
The word used here for "perfect one" is "תַמָּתִ֔י" in Hebrew, defined the following way in dictionaries:
Hebrew dictionary:
2 - a. complete, morally innocent, having integrity
Source: מקור: Open Scriptures on GitHub
Creator: יוצר: Based on the work of Larry Pierce at the Online Bible
Verse 11: "I went down to the grove of nut trees to look at the new growth in the valley, to see if the vines had budded or the pomegranates were in bloom."
Mirroring the Quranic narrative about Mary:
"And she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a remote place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree. She said, 'Oh, I wish I had died before this and was in oblivion, forgotten.' But he called her from below her, 'Do not grieve; your Lord has provided beneath you a stream. And shake toward you the trunk of the palm tree; it will drop upon you ripe, fresh dates. So eat and drink and be contented. And if you see from among humanity anyone, say, 'Indeed, I have vowed to the Most Merciful abstention, so I will not speak today to [any] man.'" (Quran 19:22-26)
"Nakhal" (palm tree): The verse in Songs of Solomon uses the same word "Nachal" in Hebrew, and it means the same thing according to Hebrew dictionaries:
n.[m.] perhaps palm-tree (Arabic نَخْلٌ, n. unit. نَخْلَةٌ; v. PerlesJQ, July, 1899, 688);— only pl. abs., כִּנְחָלִים נִטָּ֑יוּ Nu 24:6 like palm-trees, which are stretched out, spread out (as to foliage). So Perlesl.c., who compares כערבי נחל Ecclus 50:12, 𝔊 ὡς στελέχη φοινίκων.
Source: מקור: BDB Dictionary
Creator: יוצר: F. Brown, S. Driver & C. Briggs
This verse is narrating the same story the Quran was narrating about Mary retreating to a far place unto a Palm-tree. We've had a lot of Christians critiquing the Qur'an for "taking" from apocrypha, yet here we see the same thing being said in the actual Bible.
Verse 12: "Before I was aware, my soul had placed me in the chariots of Amminadab."
The Masoretic verse: יבלֹ֣א יָדַ֔עְתִּי נַפְשִׁ֣י שָׂמַ֔תְנִי מַרְכְּב֖וֹת עַמִּ֥י־נָדִֽיב:
How it is written in the original Hebrew Bible: יבלא ידעתי נפשי שמתני מרכבות עמינדיב:
The translation provided above is my own, as existing English translations have inaccurately interpreted this verse due to Masoretic distortions through diacritics. The Hebrew text clearly mentions the name "Amminadab" and not "Ammi Nadab" with a hyphen between עַמִּ֥י and נָדִֽיב, which would otherwise mean "Noble people." This is confirmed by the Codex Sinaiticus, where it is written as "Amminadab," the name.
Codex Sinaiticus:
"12 η νυμφη ταδε προϲ τον νυμφιον εκει δωϲω τουϲ μαϲτουϲ μου ϲοι ουκ εγνω ψυχη μου εθετο με · αρματα αμιναδαβ"
Source: Click Here
Translation of the Codex Sinaiticus passage:
"There I will give you my breasts, my soul did not know it placed me in the chariots of Amminadab."
The phrase "There I will give you my breasts" signifies nursing, i.e., as a mother would nurse her child.
Prior to this understanding, the meaning of this verse was unclear, leading many to believe the Song of Songs contained s*xual or naughty connotations. However, recognizing this as a prophecy about Mary and her son, the Messiah Jesus, provides clarity, and the verse should not be considered inappropriate.
The words "my soul did not know it placed me in the chariots of Amminadab" suggest that Mary and Jesus were to be placed within that lineage of Amminadab, or possibly even within the same family. This aligns with the canonical gospels that trace Jesus' lineage back to Amminadab
Let's reconsider Chapter 5, the one about prophet Muhammad.

3. Songs of Solomon ch. 5, Muhammad:

If you are familiar with who I am, then you might already know about my post here where I argue that prophet Muhammad's name is mentioned in this chapter, and considering it as a word (instead of a name) would create a grammatical blunder in the Hebrew verse.
Check out that post CLICK HERE if you haven't already.
Prophet Muhammad is indeed mentioned and prophesied by name in this chapter, verse 16:
"His mouth is sweetness itself; in his entirety, Muhammadim. This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem." (Songs of Solomon 5:16)

Let's go over it quickly:

- The phrase: "וְכֻלּ֖וֹ מַֽחֲמַדִּ֑ים"
- Transliteration: "We-khullow Maḥammadim"
- Translation: "In his entirety, Maḥammadim"
- Hebrew word(s): וְכֻלּ֖וֹ (wə·ḵul·lōw)
- Translation: "In his entirety"
- Foreign name (rootless): "מַֽחֲמַדִּ֑ים"
- Translation: "Maḥammadim"
The Hebrew grammar of "We-Khullow":
Phrase: "וְכֻלּ֖וֹ": Form: Conjunctive waw Noun - masculine singular construct third person masculine singular
It is in third person masculine singular, which means, the following word also has to be in third person masculine singular, but that's not the case. It's in plural:
The Hebrew grammar of "Maḥammadim":
Phrase: מַֽחֲמַדִּ֑ים
Noun - masculine plural
The sudden use of the plural form in the verse has a purpose: to emphasize that this is a formal name, not a noun, verb, or any other grammatical form. If interpreted as a noun, the verse would contain a significant grammatical error.
For example, consider these English translations:
"He is altogether lovelinesses"
"He is all, beauties"
These sentences do not work grammatically. The only way to maintain the verse's grammatical accuracy is to interpret "Maḥammadim" as a formal foreign name with the Hebrew plural of majesty, as found in names like "Eliakim" or "Elohim."
It is essential to note that the term in question is not "Makhmadim," as apologetics often claim. The correct term is, in fact, "Maḥammadim."
Go to this website: Click here And choose "Hebrew" and insert "מַֽחֲמַדִּ֑ים" and press "Create audio" to hear how clearly it is pronounced as "Muhammadim."
You can also hear a Rabbi in the following video literally say that prophet Muhammad's name is mentioned in verse 16 Click here (37 seconds in).
I understand that some of you may have been led to believe by apologetics that the term in question is a formal Hebrew word and should be pronounced as "Makhmadim." However, this is not accurate. To clarify, let's examine the Hebrew letters and diacritics involved:
Letter: מַֽ (Ma)
Letter: חֲ (ḥa)
Letter: מַ (Ma)
Letter: דִּ֑ (D)
Letter: ים (im)
= Maḥammadim
When the letter חֲ "ḥet" is followed by a sheva na, it is pronounced as a short, unstressed vowel sound [ħă].
These are fundamental rules of Hebrew pronunciation. It is crucial to stop spreading misinformation in the comment section, as it misleads people and does so in the name of religion. The term is not "Makhmadim," and this is widely recognized even among Jews themselves.

To read more about the grammar and linguistics, visit my initial post about it here:

Title: If "Maḥammadim" is Not a Name: Then Songs Of Solomon 5:16 Has a Grammatical Blunder - Prophet Muhammad Is Definitely Mentioned By Name (4 irrefutable reasons!!)
But let's go over some new points (and the old ones as well):

Here are seven compelling reasons why Chapter 5 is a prophecy about Prophet Muhammad:

  1. His name:The Chapter is literally mentioning him by name. This is the clearest indication that this is a prophecy about him. It makes this an irrefutable prophecy. If there were a similar prophecy about Jesus in the Old Testament, Christians would likely prominently display the verse at every church entrance. This verse is widely regarded as validating Muhammad's prophethood solely due to the presence of his name within verse 16.
  2. Hebrew Grammar:The grammar in verse 16 requires interpreting "Maḥammadim" as a formal foreign name. It is not a Hebrew word and cannot be translated without creating a grammatical error. The third-person singular "we-khullow" corresponds with the plural "Maḥammadim," which only makes sense if it is a formal name with the Hebrew plural of majesty suffix (-im).
  3. Verse 10:This verse refers to "the chiefest among ten thousand." Interestingly, historical accounts tell us that Prophet Muhammad conquered Mecca with 10,000 companions, a moment when he forgave all the non-believers who had persecuted him and his family for years, taking the lives of many (including his own daughters).
  4. His appearance:The chapter describes the appearance of "the beloved," which aligns with Prophet Muhammad's features, such as wavy, pitch-black hair and ruddy skin color.
  5. Arab cities: Verse 10 is connected to Deuteronomy 33:2, which mentions three cities belonging to ancient Arabia. This chapter also references an Arab country and compares the beloved's appearance to that of Lebanon.
  6. A new Law: Deuteronomy 33:2 states, "At His right hand was a flaming fire, a law, for them." This suggests that the person being referred to would bring a new Torah (a new Law). This idea is reinforced in Isaiah 51:4: "Give attention to me, my people, and give ear to me, my nation; for a law (ṯōwrāh) will go out from me, and I will set my justice for a light to the peoples." The only instance of a completely new "Torah" (Law) that superseded all previous Scriptures since Moses is the Holy Quran with its "Shariah" Law.
  7. The beloved's companions: The chapter mentions the beloved's companions, who are described as mighty and valiant. This aligns with the historical accounts of Muhammad's companions, known as the Sahabah, who were renowned for their courage and strength.
  8. Why would God allow this?: This point serves as advice to trust in God's prophecies within the Old Testament Scriptures. Consider the following: Why would God permit such clear references and parallels to be included in His Revelations, only to have them fulfilled by a supposedly "false prophet"? Does this seem logical? It certainly does not to me. God has never before left a multitude of prophecies within His Scriptures to be fulfilled by someone who would lead people astray. If Prophet Muhammad were indeed a false prophet, his followers would have a valid argument at the Judgment of God, wouldn't they? So, why did God allow him to fulfill all these prophecies? However, it is essential to remember that God would never decree the followers of Prophet Muhammad for hell, because that would not be in accordance with justice and fairness.
Prophet Muhammad was a genuine prophet of God, and he indisputably fulfilled all the prophecies and revived the doctrine and methodology of Abraham, which is pure monotheism. The Holy Quran says:
"And afterward We inspired thee (Muhammad, saying): Follow the religion of Abraham, as one by nature upright. He was not of the idolaters." (The Holy Quran - "The Bee" - 16:123)
And:
"And they say: Be Jews or Christians, then ye will be rightly guided. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Nay, but (we follow) the religion of Abraham, the upright, and he was not of the idolaters." (-''-, "The Heifer" - 2:135)
Islam is the Religion of Abraham, given the name "Islam" by God Himself. It is not a new or novice faith from ancient Arabia but rather the continuation and culmination of the monotheistic tradition established by our father Abraham.

Verse 15 mentions "Hamûdî," the nickname of the name "Muhammad," but in Hebrew (Amûdî):

שוקיו עמודי שש מיסדים על־אדני־פז מראהו כלבנון בחור כארזים:
The first word in this verse is:
Heb: שׁוֹקָיו֙ (šô·w·qâw)
Noun - fdc third person masculine singular.
Which traditionally is translated as "His legs/thighs."
It is followed by:
Heb: עַמּ֣וּדֵי (‘am·mû·ḏî)
Noun - in masculine plural construct.
Which traditionally is interpreted to mean "Pillars."
Upon immediate observation, you'll notice that, similar to verse 16, there is a grammatical inconsistency in the translation of these two phrases.
The first phrase is expressed in masculine singular form in Hebrew, but it has been translated into masculine plural form in English, indicating a lack of faithfulness in the translation.

Here's the significance of this discrepancy:

"Amudi" in this verse corresponds to the Arabic nickname for the formal Arabic name "Muhammad," namely "Hamûdî,"
The omission of the initial "H" sound in the name "Hamûdî" when it is borrowed into Hebrew as "‘ammûḏî" can be attributed to the fact that Hebrew loanwords from Arabic often omit the "H" sound at the beginning of a word.
In Hebrew phonology, initial "H" sounds in loanwords from Arabic are frequently dropped or assimilated into other sounds. This phenomenon is not unique to the nickname "Hamûdî"; rather, it is a common pattern observed in the borrowing of words from Arabic into Hebrew. This phonological adaptation occurs to accommodate the structure and phonetic patterns of the Hebrew language.
The first word, "שׁוֹקָיו֙" (šôwqâw), is likely to be understood as a verb form derived from the root "שׁקק" (sh.q.q), meaning "Desired" or "longed." The verse is in reality saying:
"His desired one, Amudi!"
And in the next verse, namely v.16 says:
"And in his entirety, Muhammadim!"
It kind of makes sense now that it says "AND in his entirety" and then a mention of his full formal name, after having mentioned him by his nickname. The pillars that are referenced later in the verse are described as being six in number, specifically "Six pillars of gold." This could potentially be a reference to the six pillars or columns that are located inside the Rawdah (Riaz ul Jannah) in "Masjid Nabawi" (The Prophet's Mosque) in Medina. These pillars hold special historical significance for Muslims and are adorned with gold.
"šôwqâw" is defined the following way in Hebrew dictionaries:
Root: שׁקק ᴵᴵ to desire. (— Qal)he desired (a hapax legomenon in the Bible, occurring Ps. 107:9). (— Hithpol.)he yearned, longed, desired. [Related to base שׁוק ᴵᴵᴵ.]Derivatives: שֶׁקֶק ᴵᴵ, שִׁקּוּק ᴵᴵ, שֽׁקִיקָה ᴵᴵ, הִשֽׁתּוֹקֽקוּת, שֽׁקִיקוּת, שׁוֹקֵק ᴵᴵ. Source: מקור: Klein Dictionary Creator: יוצר: Ezra Klein

4. The benefit in us initially not knowing that these Songs of Solomon were of prophetic nature?

The initial obscurity surrounding the prophetic nature of the Songs of Solomon serves a divine purpose, rooted in God's Eternal Wisdom. If people had known from the beginning that these Songs were prophetic, many would have falsely claimed the fulfillment of prophecies. However, God presented them as mere "Love stories," and their true purpose remained hidden for centuries.
Now, the reason for their inclusion in the Book of God has been revealed. This divine plan aims to clarify the truth for us in the modern age without the need for a new prophet or messenger (I'm only an author on Reddit who's well versed in the Scriptures).

5. The "Erchomai" (aka "Paraclete" and the promise of the "Spirit of Truth"):

Jesus promised his followers the coming of "another" advocate:
John 14:15-18:
"If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you (ἔρχομαι)."
While I am not an expert in Greek, the fact that the world cannot accept him could imply that they would reject his message, and that they do not see him could mean they do not believe in his message. It does not have to refer to an invisible Spirit.
The translation of "I will come to you" is based on the verb in its base form, "ἔρχομαι." John the Baptist uses another form of this word when speaking about someone greater than him who would come after him:
Matthew 3:11 (NIV):
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes (ἐρχόμενος - erchomenos) one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."
Here, it is clear that John the Baptist is referring to another human being who will come after him because he mentions his sandals (Holy Ghost doesn't wear sandals, as far as we know). This individual will perform a different kind of baptism—with the Holy Spirit and fire. The Holy Spirit is identified as Gabriel, and the "Fire" in this context refers to the verse from Deuteronomy 33:
"He said, “The LORD came from Sinai, And dawned on them from Seir; He shone forth from Mount Paran, And He came from among ten thousand holy ones; At His right hand was a flaming fire, a law, for them." (Deuteronomy 33:2)
The fire is this fiery Law that is mentioned here.
Furthermore, all of these locations mentioned in this verse are cities in ancient Arabia. See these ancient maps below clearly proving this:
- Sinai: (Click here to see ancient map)
Look for: Within the region of what is today known as "Tabuk, Saudi Arabia."
- Seir: (Click here to see ancient map)
Look for: Right next to "Seger", which corresponds to "Thamud" today I believe (or at least very close to it. You'll also see "Kor" right next to it, which is what the Bible also says is close to Seir.)
- Mount Paran: (Click here to see ancient map)
Look for: "Pharanite" within (or close by what was known as Arabia Petrea, but it was a vast mountainous region and probably stretched well into Arabia as well, you'll find it right next to "Modiana" in this map (which most likely is the "Midian" the Bible speaks of), and the Bible also says that Midian is close to Paran so it makes perfect sense.)
Returning to Matthew 3:11, we see that the individual being referred to is an actual human, as indicated by the mention of sandals. This person cannot be Jesus, as John the Baptist and Jesus lived during the same time and even carried out their missions simultaneously. John was referring to Prophet Muhammad (also known as "Ahmad"). The Holy Quran says:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.' But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, 'this is evident sorcery!'" (61:6)
Additionally:
"Verily this is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds: the Spirit of Truth has brought it down [i.e. brought down the Quran] upon your heart, so that you become one of the warners, in plain Arabic language. And indeed, it is surely in the former Scriptures. Is it not a Sign for them that the scholars of the Children of Israel have recognized it?" (26:193-197)
The Quran directly claims that this prophecy is found in the former Scriptures and that the scholars of the Children of Israel have recognized it, and here (in this post) you are clearly seeing parallels before your very own eyes.

6. The coming the "Son of man":

Matthew 25:31-44 gives us some highly interesting statements made by Jesus himself:
"The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations"
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ 41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
This "Son of man" prophecy in Matthew 25:31-44 is not referring to Jesus, even though he did use this term to describe himself. This passage is about another "Son of man," as Jesus was not a king. This was about the prophet from Arabia:

In Isaiah 21, we read a prophecy against Arabia and someone who would flee from swords and war:

"Proclamation Against Arabia"
13 The burden against Arabia.
In the forest in Arabia you will lodge,
O you traveling companies of Dedanites.
14 O inhabitants of the land of Tema,
Bring water to him who is thirsty;
With their bread they met him who fled.
15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword,
From the bent bow, and from the distress of war.
16 For thus the Lord has said to me: “Within a year, according to the year of a hired man, all the glory of Kedar will fail; 17 and the remainder of the number of archers, the mighty men of the people of Kedar, will be diminished; for the Lord God of Israel has spoken it.”
The sole instance of Kedar's glory waning and ultimately falling was through the prophet Muhammad. This prophecy finds its fulfillment exclusively in him, with no possibility of being fulfilled by another, given the non-existence of "Kedar" any longer. Notice the words "They bring water to him who is thirsty, with their bread they met him who fled" mirroring what Jesus said about that Son of man.
The only recorded instance of the entire Arabian Peninsula succumbing was through prophet Muhammad, a messenger who professed to be sent for all of humanity, including all earthly kings.
Nonetheless, what I want to point out is the following:
"14. O inhabitants of the land of Tema, Bring water to him who is thirsty; With their bread they met him who fled."
Directly mirroring what Jesus mentioned the king (i.e. this 'Son of man') would say, in Matthew 25:
"35. for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;"
This passage pertains to the migration (also known as "Hijrah") of Prophet Muhammad in 622 CE from Mecca to Yathrib (Medina) upon receiving an invitation, in order to escape the persecution of the warring pagans of Mecca.

Conclusion:

With this, I conclude my post, and I genuinely hope that I have brought some enlightenment to some of you and convinced you just as much as I am convinced about these prophecies.
/By your brother, Exion.
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2024.04.22 15:14 RAX024 INC Theology and doctrine creates bible contradictions.

INC Theology and doctrine creates bible contradictions.
Question number one
Is there any contradiction in the bible?
The bible shouldn't have any contradiction of itself (verse contradicting the other) nor wrong words in it since I and INC believes it is the exact words of God, now If it's the word of God it should be CORRECT, There shouldn't be any contradiction, its called law of non-contradiction it's defined by theologian
James Montgomery
"If the Bible is truly from God, and if God is a God of truth (as He is), then. If two parts seem to be in opposition or in contradiction to each other, our interpretation of one or both of these parts must be in error.”
Citing Psalm 119:160 ESV
160 The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever.
Question number 2
What are the verses that they use to refuse the divinity of Christ and how does it contradics the other passages
Deuteronomy 6:4 (ESV) 4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mark 12:29 (ESV) 29 Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Here you can see of hear ministers say"EhTo Oh Si CrIsTo na mAy SaBi Na I-iSa laNg AnG DiyOs BaKiT Ka MaNiNiwAlA sA TriNitY eh GinAwA LaNg NaMan yAn Sa CouNciL oF NiCea"
Here is where the contradictions starts
Here is the Trinity present in the bible that you heretics avoided(Which they're good at)
The Father being God Philippians 1:2 (ESV) 2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Son being God John 1:1 (ESV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:18 (ESV) 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
And the Holy spirit. Acts 5:3–4 (ESV) 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you
Just a reminder the doctrine of Trinity is not and will not be a DENIAL of 1 God but an explanation that that 1 God has 3 Co-Equal and Co-Eternal persons with each is a distinct person yet each is identified as God.
Why is it important for us to accept the deity of Christ?
Well here, 1 John 2:23 (ESV)
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.
1 John 5:12 (ESV)
12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.
1 John 5:20 (ESV)
20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
INC believes that Jesus is just a human Messiah how does this creates Bible contradictions ?
Because even in the Old testament the messiah is not considered as "Just" a human being nor does it speak of the messiah as a mere human being but a God
Pslam 45:6 6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness;
In reference to
Hebrews 1:8 (ESV) 8 But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
And then continue to name him SPECIFICALLY as GOD WITH US
Isaiah 7:14 (ESV) 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Immanuel or Emmanuel (Hebrew: עִמָּנוּאֵל, romanized: ʿĪmmānūʾēl, meaning, "God with us" or "God is with us"; also romanized: Imanu'el; and Emmanouël or Ἐμμανουήλ in Koine Greek of the New Testament) in image 1
The messiah is called A mighty God
Isaiah 9:6 (ESV) 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
And being called a Lord
Psalm 110:1 (ESV) 1 The Lord says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.”
The lord is our righteousness in
Jeremiah 23:6 (ESV) 6 In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘The Lord is our righteousness.’
Now in the new testament it will authors of the books(the saints) also speaks of Jesus being active in the old testament
1 Corinthians 10:4 (ESV) 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
1 Corinthians 10:9 (ESV) 9 We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents,
Hebrews 1:2–3 (ESV) 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. 3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.
Hebrews 1:8–10 (ESV)
8 But of the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
Jude 5 (ESV) 5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
Moreover the new testament authors applied the Divine יהוה (YHWH) to Jesus.
Hebrews 1:10 (ESV) 10 And,
“You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,
and the heavens are the work of your hands;
(Citing the passage in Psalm 102:25-27)
Psalm 102:25–27 (ESV) 25 Of old you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away,
27 but you are the same, and your years
Now this is really confusing since Israel's belief in One God was firmly grounded in the introductory words of shema thw Hebrew confession that includes the central tenents of faith (Deuteronomy 6:4 (ESV) 4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.) in the first century,the early churches belief in one God separates them form the polytheistic practice of the Greco-Roman pantheon (made up of Many gods like Zeus Athena hades etc)
Now to explain further and for deeper knowledge when the Apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians, he was writing in Greek-speaking people who had to come out of Greco-roman Culture. The scripture the Corinthians with was The greek translation of the old statement(image 2) Septuagint,LXX in 1 Corinthians 8, The Apostle Paul rejects the many " gods" and "lords" of Greco-Roman Culture
1 Corinthians 8:4–5 (ESV) 4 Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”—
In reference with
Deuteronomy 10:17 (ESV) 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.
When Apostle Paul refers to the Father, he uses the Greek word θεὸς (theos), which in hebrew translation אֱלֹהֵינוּ (ʾĕlōhênû), but he refers to Jesus he husses the Greek word κύριος (kyrios), which in hebrew translate to the word יהוה (YHWH). Look at image 3 (side by side interleniar 1 Corinthians 8:4-5 and Deuteronomy 10:17)
We all know that Apostle Paul is a Jew he clearly believeed in the Shema,
For people who doesn't know shema it's Shema Yisrael, or the Shema, is the central affirmation of Judaism. The prayer expresses belief in the "singularity" of God, that is, in God's oneness and incomparability. It is traditionally recited twice a day, as part of the morning (Shacharit) and evening (Arvit or Ma'ariv) services.
But because of the incarnation which you can read here
Philippians 2:5–8 (ESV) 5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being …
He is also believe that Jesus shared the identity of YHWH (יהוה), The God of Israel. Paul was a monotheist But it ended because of the incarnation that led us to believe and know that Apostle Paul is a trinitarian not only by his writings,words that he used but also in his theology
1 Corinthians 12:4–6 (ESV) 4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; 6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.
Ephesians 2:18 (ESV) 18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father.
Ephesians 4:4–6 (ESV) 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Heres another Verse that they also use to disprove the deity of Christ but also the Trinitarian doctrine, and have the Confidence that they're correct in their theology while contradicting the very foundation of Christianity as we know it today.
John 20:17 (ESV) 17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”
In this verse INC ministers and members will say "KiTa Mo sA TalATa? na aNg AmA LAng anG dIyoS at HindI si Christo?" And continue to add that even Jesus himself consider him as a God and he even called him greater than I in John 14:28 now how does this Verse contradict the Bible
Well first and foremost it contradics the very first chapter and of the Gospel of Apostle John that Jesus is God in
John 1:1 (ESV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
‭John 1:14 NIV‬ [14] The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John 1:18 (ESV) 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
John 12:41 (ESV) 41 Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him.
This will also contradict Jesus several claims to his own deity
John 5:17–18 (ESV) 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”
18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself
John 5:23 (ESV) 23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
John 8:58 (ESV) 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 10:28–30 (ESV) 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
Second it also ignores the fact(Which are the only thing that these heretics are good at) that the Son(Jesus) eternally existed on which you can see on
John 1:1 (ESV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 8:58 (ESV) 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 17:5 (ESV) 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
And also became flesh(human) and dwelt among us in
John 1:14 (ESV)
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
In Jesus incarnate role as a sinless man
1 John 3:5 (ESV) 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.
Because the Father was functionally(because the Father stayed in heaven and he Jesus became a servant)
John 14:28 (ESV) 28 You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
Hence making the Father greater than him in rank and status not in essence(being God) therefore he would humbly acknowledge the Father as his God, because of his incarnation, Jesus can refer to the Father as “my God.”
They could also use Acts 2:22-36 where Apostle Peter Consider Jesus being a man attested by God
Acts 2:22–36 (ESV) 22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know— 23 this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. 24 God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it. 25 For David says concerning him,
“ ‘I saw the Lord always before me,
for he is at my right hand that I may not be shaken;
26 therefore my heart was glad, and my tongue rejoiced;
my flesh also will dwell in hope.
27 For you will not abandon my soul to Hades,
or let your Holy One see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will make me full of gladness with your presence.’
29 “Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and whis tomb is with us to this day. 30 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God raised up, band of that we all are witnesses. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says,
i“ ‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at my right hand,
35 until I make your enemies your footstool.” ’
36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
Yes Apostle Peter did Believe that Jesus was a Man attested by God,But that is not all the believed about Jesus. In the book of Acts ,Jesus has ascended to the right hand of The Father, Now Inc ministers might/will say(KiTa NyO Kahit Si aPosTle PeTer AlAm nA TaO si Jesus At HinDi DiYos)
Well lets see on the book of Acts if the books of Acts will agree or disagree with what
Acts 2:33 (ESV) 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.
Acts 5:31 (ESV) 31 God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins
(How can a "human" as you say forgive sins if he is not God/ Diety?)
Acts 7:55–56 (ESV) 55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”
(How can a man be at the right side(literally not lower as you imagine) or on the same level of the The Father if he is not God?
A Role in which he us Active and Not Passive Show by answering the prayers of Peter to heal,
Acts 3:6 (ESV) 6 But Peter said, “I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk!”
Acts 4:10 (ESV) 10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well.
Acts 9:3–6 (ESV) 3 Now as he went on his way, he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven shone around him. 4 And falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you
Acts 9:34 (ESV) 34 And Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; rise and make your bed.” And immediately he rose.
in his sermon on the day of pentecost,Peter then links calling on the name of the "Lord" to save that only a The Father can do according to these heretics.
Acts 2:21 (ESV) 21 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’
This is in reference in the book of Joel
Joel 2:32 (ESV) 32 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the Lord has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the Lord calls.
To calling on the name on the name of Jesus
Acts 2:36–39 ESV
36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37 Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
Reference on
Acts 7:59 (ESV) 59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
But peter is not done yet because he Further speaks of Jesus as pouring out the holy spirit which also a Contradiction to INC that God The Father is the only one who can do this
Acts 2:33 (ESV) 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.
Acts 2:17–18 (ESV) 17 “ ‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
18 even on my male servants and female servants
in.,
Peter also called Jesus the Author of life
Acts 3:15 (ESV) 15 and you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses.
Which also a Contradiction to INC teachings that God the Father is the only one that can create life but Peter is not done yet he also stated that Jesus is the only name for salvation in
Acts 4:12 (ESV) 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
As a Savior
Acts 5:31 (ESV) 31 God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
Citing Acts 13:23 (ESV) 23 Of this man’s offspring God has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus, as he promised.
And also the Judge of of the Living and the dead
Acts 10:42 (ESV) 42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.
And lastly "Lord of all"
Acts 10:36 (ESV) 36 As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all).
None of these things could be said of someone who is just a human because that will go againts their shema as Jews. If you don't know what it is
Shema Yisrael, or the Shema, is the central affirmation of Judaism. The prayer expresses belief in the singularity of God, that is, in God's oneness and incomparability. It is traditionally recited twice a day, as part of the morning (Shacharit) and evening (Arvit or Ma'ariv) services.
Now to further examine Apostle Paul's writings and beliefs let's dig deeper in
1 Peter 3:15 (ESV) 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
Citing
Isaiah 8:13 (ESV) 13 But the Lord of hosts, him you shall honor as holy. Let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
Most of the time in rhe LXX the covenant name for God is (יהוה) is translated as kyrios(Lord), The term "Lord" in the LXX of Isaiah 8:13(above) refers directly to the "Lord of hosts" Peter use the LXX, he inserts"Christ "(messiah), asserting that we should honor him as Lord in second Epistle Peter also clearly calls Jesus "God:""the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ" in
2 Peter 1:1 (ESV) 1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
Citing
2 Peter 1:11 (ESV) 11 For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
2 Peter 2:20 20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
2 Peter 3:18 (ESV) 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
Moreover, when Peter confronted Ananias about his sin this is what he said "Why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy spirit You have not lied to man But to God"
Acts 5:3–4 (ESV) 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you
So meaning to say, To lie to the Holy spirit was to Lie to God. in the book of Acts, th Holy Spirit is not a force but a Person Who not only Can be lied to, But also fills, sends, and speak to people
Here speaks
Acts 4:8 (ESV) 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders,
Acts 13:2 (ESV) 2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”
Acts 21:11 (ESV) 11 And coming to us, he took Paul’s belt and bound his own feet and hands and said, “Thus says the Holy Spirit, ‘This is how the Jews at Jerusalem will bind the man who owns this belt and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.’ ”
Acts 28:25 (ESV) 25 And disagreeing among themselves, they departed after Paul had made one statement: “The Holy Spirit was right in saying to your fathers through Isaiah the prophet:
Here sends
Acts 13:4 (ESV) 4 So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus.
And lied as shown in Acts 5:3-4 so like Paul we can say that Peter was also a Trinitarian in his theology
Now onto the other verse that INC uses to contradict the Deity of Christ and also The Trinitarian belief which is
1 Timothy 2:4–5 (ESV) 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
They might say
"KeTah NyO? lEtrA Por LetRa naG lInE uP ang ExpLaNaTioN at ThEoLoGy naMin Na Isa Lang AnG Diyos!!(Screams in abuloy)"
The contradictions that this gives is, the belief of those who hold the Deity of Jesus also lines up with what the Apostles Paul teaches but again we realize and read Paul said more about the identity of Jesus, The reason why Apostle Paul refers to Christ as a man is because a mediator is a representative between two parties explained in Hebrews 9:15
Hebrews 9:15 (ESV) 15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
This is not a denial of Jesus divinity but an acknowledgement of his incarnation In 1 Timothy 3:16
1 Timothy 3:16 (ESV) 16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:
He was manifested in the flesh,
vindicated by the Spirit,
seen by angels,
proclaimed among the nations,
believed on in the world,
taken up in glory.
In other passage, Paul calls Jesus as our great God and Saviour in Titus 2:13 citing Titus 2:14
Titus 2:13 (ESV) 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:14 (ESV) 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
To add Paul also describes the Corinthians as those who “call upon [epikaloumenois] the name of our Lord Jesus Christ” we can see it in 1 Corinthians 1:2 citing Acts 2:21
1 Corinthians 1:2 (ESV) 2 To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:
Acts 2:21 (ESV) 21 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.’
In the Ild testament "called on" the nema of the Lord(יהוה) is in Joel 2:32
Joel 2:32 (ESV) 32 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the Lord has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the Lord calls.
the Corinthians were people who addressed Jesus as Lord in prayer
John 14:14 (ESV) 14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
This was not just something the Corinthians dud as Paul also directs his prayers to Jesus in both 1 Thessalonians 3:13 (ESV) 13 so that he may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints.
And also on 2 Thessalonians 3:5 (ESV) 5 May the Lord direct your hearts to the love of God and to the steadfastness of Christ.
And To Jesus and the Father 1 Thessalonians 3:11 (ESV) 11 Now may our God and Father himself, and our Lord Jesus, direct our way to you,
2 Thessalonians 2:16–17 (ESV) 16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, 17 comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.
In 1 Corinthians 2:8, 1 Corinthians 2:8 (ESV) 8 None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Concerning God's wisdom,Paul states, "none of the rulers of this age understood this,for if they had they would not have crucified the Lord of glory". Paul describes Jesus as "the Lord of glory" this is in reference to James 2:1 and Psalm 24:7-8.
James 2:1 (ESV) 2 My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory.
Psalm 24:7–8 (ESV) 7 Lift up your heads, O gates!
And be lifted up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
8 Who is this King of glory?
The Lord, strong and mighty,
the Lord, mighty in battle!
Question to the Whole INC what man could be described in this way? it would be blasphemous to call anyone the Lord of glory unless they were devine.
Now next question Did jesus Become a man? Now because these INC ministers and Their followers operates from Governing assumptions (that God is one Person the Father) that keeps them from arriving at a right conclusion (the Diety of Jesus)), they often engages in fallacious reasoning,
For example
Now common mistakes that these heretics might say if you use John 1:1-14 to prove the divinity of Christ they might tapdance and say "Oh NAsaN aNg TriniTy jAn? Wala NaMan Eh KahIt SaN Mo HaNapIn Yung Trinity Sa Gospel Of JhOn Wala KanG mAHaHanap Letra por LeTra Pero Iglesia Ni CriStO meron, ISa Pa YunG WoRd nA Theos iS Just Your Hebrew Opion(citing Joe Vintilador)".
This simply a stupid and misinterpretation of what Trinitarian believe; Trinitarians don't teach that John1:1 or John 1:14 by themselves teach the Trinity. moreover, Trinitarians don not argue that the word Theos (God) means Trinity. However,the term Theos is used of Jesus in John 20:28
John 20:28 (ESV) 28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
And the holy spirit in
Acts 5:4 (ESV) 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to man but to God.”
Rather than explicitly teaching the Trinity John 1:1 and John 1:14 supports the doctrine of the Trinity as they teach the Eternal Son of God(Jesus) took on Flesh (humanity/became human) and dwelt among us.
Now to prove that Jesus pre exist and in his prayer in John 17:3-5, Jesus both refer to his Pre-existance and uses terminology that can only be used about deity
John 17:3–5 (ESV) 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you
However just as with other clear passages in the New Testament that Jesus speak to Jesus' Diety these heretics tries to find a way to get around this using ‭
John 17:3 NIV‬ [3] Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
They'll say "KeTah Nyo Si Jesus Nga NaNiwAla Na Isa LanG aNg DiYos At yun Ay aNg Ama"
What these heretics fails to highlight or understand(which hirap na hirap sila) is according to Jesus,to have Eternally lofe is to know two persons both the Father and The Son(Jesus) in John 14:6-7 and 16:3
John 14:6–7 (ESV) 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.”
John 16:3 (ESV) 3 And they will do these things because they have not known the Father, nor me
Now same as Jewish monotheism (unlike unitarianism) could contain the idea that the Messiah was Devine as (stated in this post above) and that together with the creator give life you can see it in John 5:25-26
John 5:25–26 (ESV) 25 “Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
This is why Apostle John could also say that God's son, Jesus Christ is "the true God and eternal life 1 John 5:20
1 John 5:20 (ESV) 20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
But still otice In John 17:5conversation Jesus is speaking of that glory he shared with the Father before the world existed The words "before the world existed" Shows that Jesus sonship did not begin at his baptism or resurrection (as other unitarian believe) but is an eternal sonship
John 1:1 (ESV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
So in therefore John 17:3-5 is an example of a divine,yet incarnate that you can see in John 1:14
John 1:14 (ESV) 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
That the Person, The Son communicating with a divine but non-incarnate Person the Father in heaven.
Now did Thomas call Jesus God?
In John 20:28 Thomas famously answers the risen Jesus," My lord and my God! "(ho kyrios mou kai ho theos mou). Thomas Statement is from the Old testament in Psalm 35:23, Psalm 99:8 and 106:47
Psalm 35:23 (ESV) 23 Awake and rouse yourself for my vindication,
for my cause, my God and my Lord!
Psalm 99:8 (ESV) 8 O Lord our God, you answered them;
you were a forgiving God to them,
but an avenger of their wrongdoings.
Psalm 106:47 (ESV) 47 Save us, LORD our God, and gather us from the nations, that we may give thanks to your holy name and glory in your praise.
In response to this verse INC heretics might say "Eh YunG mGa TrInItaRiaN IsinAsAntAbi Na YuNg AmA Ang BumUhaY kaY Hesus eh Yada yada yada uhuh Ahah"
Since they don't want to accept it theyll make something up and twist the bible but still its Gods words he'll protect it the assumptions that they make will back fire and also strange to say that Trinitarians fail to acknowledge the Father raised Jesus from the dead when its not even a part of the surrounding context in John 20:28.
All Trinitarians believe the Father raised jesus from the dead
Galatians 1:1 (ESV) 1 Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
But we also recognize that Jesus He would raise himself from the Dead and sinxe Jesus is a sinless man he can't and will not lie correct?
John 2:19–22 (ESV) 19 Jesus answered them, z“Destroy this temple, and in three days aI will raise it up.” 20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple,3 and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about bthe temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, chis disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed dthe Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
And That the Holy spirit was also involved / Raised him from the dead
Romans 8:11 (ESV) 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.
The resurrection of Jesus involved all Three members/persons of the Trinity.
The problem about the interpretations and theology of ministers who stumbled on John 20:28 is that Both nouns- Lord (kyrios) and God (theos)—are in the nominative case and are addressed to Jesus here on
Revelation 4:11 (ESV) 11 “Worthy are you, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they existed and were created.”
Infact Thomas's confession is directed to one Person, Jesus, If jesus was not Devine then Thomas made a serious error but Jeuss made no effort to correct Thomas in his worship yet Peter in Acts 10:25–26
Acts 10:25–26 (ESV) 25 When Peter entered, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am a man.”
And also Paul in acts 14:14-15
Acts 14:14–15 (ESV)
14 But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their garments and rushed out into the crowd, crying out, 15 “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men, of like nature with you, and we bring you good news, that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them.
And the Angel in Revelation in Revelation 22:8–9
Revelation 22:8–9 (ESV) 8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, 9 but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those
All corrected others for trying to worship them, clearly demonstrating that Worship belongs to God only. the confession of deity here is unmistakable because Jesus accepted Thomas' worship of him in John 20:28
John 20:29 (ESV) 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Whats more in the book of Revelation,the elders every creature in heaven and upon the earth ascribe universal worship you can read is in Revelation 5:11-14
Revelation 5:11–14 (ESV) 11 Then I looked, and I heard around the throne and the living creatures and the elders the voice of many angels, numbering myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice,
“Worthy is the Lamb who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and
This is a reference to John1:29
John 1:29 (ESV) 29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
INC may claim the bible as their authority proudly screaming "we follow the bible" but Reject and distort anything in the bible that they cannot comprehend or go against their Doctrine since it'll go against their heretic view and Faulty doctrine from a GUY who didn't have enough sleep and starving(literally)for validation how does it feel for the very "authority" that you use doesn't agree with you even a single time?
INC objections to the Diety of Jesus is nothing new and are based on Misunderstanding of the nature of God( that God is one person) and taking verse out of context(Which is the only thing they're good and also taking money) INC unitarianism is a rationalistic approach (placing their human reasoning na sira sira since kulang sa sleep) above revelation to the text of the bible they may claim the bible as their authority and say " NaNiNiwAlA Ako Sa BibLe" but they still Reject it.
It is not the text of the Bible that determines UNITARIAN THEOLOGY but what they THINK is POSSIBLE. The Apostle Paul warned the Corinthians about accepting a Jesus that is different from the Jesus proclaimed by the apostles in 2 Corinthians 11:4
2 Corinthians 11:4 (ESV) 4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough.
Question can you still consider yourself TRUE and BIBLICAL if the very authority that you use to remove the Diety for Jesus doesn't agree with you and refuse your own theology and doctrine?
What will the answer be sir?u/James_Readme
Thankyou for reading a super long post about Unitarian beliefs may peace be upon you and your families.
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2024.04.22 03:47 luxtabula Remember, Phantom Borders are Political Borders (wiki article)

To the 50,000 plus followers, welcome aboard.
A quick history of this subreddit and its purpose.
This subreddit started from a mapporn post
https://www.reddit.com/PhantomBorders/comments/ht8iwd/figured_might_as_well_repost_the_origin_of_the/
https://www.reddit.com/MapPorn/comments/ht4dkg/neat/
Originally, we were using this definition to describe what a phantom border is:
Phantom Border: noun, an artificial boundary or division between two or more areas, regions, or territories that is unofficial and/or unrecognized as a single entity but which holds demographic, ideologic, economic, cultural, historical, ethnic, or linguistic significance to that area, region, or territory.
Because of the tremendous growth, this definition needed to be clarified for anyone not exactly sure what a phantom border is.
When the subreddit was created, the idea always was to go for "some of the most fascinating political maps."
One definition of a phantom border is:
an invisible line that follows the path of a former political border. Even though the border is no longer officially recognized, its influence can still be felt today.
A phantom border should always consist of the following:
How does this play out?
Remember it's always going to feature a demographic map of some kind.
Ask yourself, is a historical pattern holding onto the modern day, despite changes in the border? Or was there an unseen cultural division within a territory that continues to hold steady despite the lack of enforcement from the ruling government? If so, you might have found a phantom border.
This is not a meme subreddit. This subreddit started as a niche subreddit. Posts intended for humor should be posted elsewhere.
Try to provide sources. Cross-posts are perfectly acceptable. If the phantom border isn't clear, provide multiple images to illustrate your point or write a brief description.
Also try to focus the discussion on one country, unless the phantom border crosses into a neighboring country.
Here are a few good examples of past phantom borders.
https://www.reddit.com/PhantomBorders/comments/19akond/the_administrative_divisions_of_fujiantaiwan/
https://www.reddit.com/PhantomBorders/comments/198xeay/2012_ukrainian_parliamentary_election_compared_to/
https://www.reddit.com/PhantomBorders/comments/197fcoc/scawn_vs_scone/
Here are a few good areas to look into to see if there are any interesting demographic patterns:
Where else can we post content?
For broad map related content
For memes
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2024.04.21 01:35 LtColumbo403 On the trail of a spirit (2/3)

← On the trail of a spirit (1/3)
IN THE QUR'AN

THE CAVE

We are now firmly anchored in synchromysticism, and it is in this context that I notice other correspondences with the Qur'an.
I was still pondering the word "club" when a scene from an episode of The Simpsons piqued my curiosity. From there I discovered what I call a synchromystic correspondence between part of the Simpsons episode and the story of the companions of the cave described in Surah 18 of the Qur'an, The Cave.
From an entry point, if we use similarities as markers, the unfolding of the Simpsons scenes is almost in sync with the sequence of ayat in Surah 18 from the moment the young men entered the cave. I'll try to clarify this for you:

In the cave

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➔ Qur'an 18:[17-18]; The young men entered the cave:
18:17 And [had you been present], you would see the sun when it rose, inclining away from their cave on the right, and when it set, passing away from them on the left, while they were [lying] within an open space thereof. That was from the signs of Allah. He whom Allah guides is the [rightly] guided, but he whom He leaves astray - never will you find for him a protecting guide.
18:18 And you would think them awake, while they were asleep. And We turned them to the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror.
▶ The Simpsons - sun; Mr. Burns' turn to strike the ball.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[17-18] The Simpsons - sun
18:17 "And [had you been present], you would see the sun when it rose, inclining away from their cave on the right, and when it set, passing away from them on the left," Note that in the first scene of the video the thrown ball is shown merging with the sun. Then the next ball has a deviated trajectory from left to right: "Oh, a cunning stratagem, sir. It's curving right toward the green, and it's... there."
18:17 "while they were [lying] within an open space thereof." A 👁️‍🗨️ wide open space (clearing) between group of trees.
18:18 "And you would think them awake, while they were asleep." A character suddenly loses consciousness, causing another character to be confused.
18:18 "And We turned them to the right and to the left," A character turning on himself (starting from his left) with a club in his hand. (⇢ read [q-l-b] below the table ⬇️)
18:18 "while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance." 👁️‍🗨️ Two parallel golf clubs on the ground, in the foreground in front of the clearing. (⇢ read [k-l-b] below the table ⬇️)
18:18 "If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror." A character flees in haste at the sight of another lying on the ground.
[q-l-b]: Note that Homer turns through 360° with a club in his hands and the club itself turns on its axis in the air. In Ayah 18:18 the word used to express the action of turning something is "wanuqallibuhum" from the root q-l-b; wa[and]-nu[we]-qallibu[turned]-hum[them].
There is a 🔊 resemblance in sound between the consonants of the word club in English, c-l-b, and the root q-l-b in Arabic (the sound produced by the letter Qaf in Arabic is a kind of [k] pronounced further back in the throat).
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[k-l-b]: Same idea as [q-l-b] here. In Ayah 18:18 the word used for "while their dog" is wakalbuhum; wa[and]-kalbu[dog]-hum[their]. Kalb from the root k-l-b.
The consonants of the word club in English, c-l-b, and the root k-l-b in Arabic are 🔊 very much alike in sound.
And the dog stretches forth its two forelegs, "dhira'ayhi", which is a declension of the word dhira' (cubit, from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger). Their shape could well be represented by golf clubs.

Delivery

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➔ Qur'an 18:[19-20]; The companions of the cave are released and discuss their affair:
18:19 And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day." They said, "Your Lord is most knowing of how long you remained. So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city and let him look to which is the best of food and bring you provision from it and let him be cautious. And let no one be aware of you.
18:20 Indeed, if they come to know of you, they will stone you or return you to their religion. And never would you succeed, then - ever."
▶ The Simpsons - city; Marge travels to a faraway city in search of a high-quality dress.
▶ The Simpsons - dollar; This time, Marge goes to Main Street and buys a high fashion dress.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[19-20] The Simpsons - city
18:19 "[...] So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city" A character going alone in a city...
18:19 "and let him look to which is the best of food*️⃣ and bring you provision from it" "Miss? Do you have a Chanel suit or any other high-quality clothes?"
18:20 "[...] they will stone you" A character stoned by a golf ball
18:20 "or return you to their religion." "I'm sure he'd support your application for membership tonight." | "Bull honkey! I don't care about joining this stupid club." | "But does your wife?"
*️⃣"azka ta'aman", literally "the purest food".

Time is money

Qur'an 18:19 The Simpsons - dollar
18:19 "And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them*️⃣," Just as they are about to exit the house, the chatty character asks another one questions.
18:19 "How long have you remained [here]?" "How much did it cost?"
18:19 "They said, "We have remained a day" "A dollar. Let's go."
18:19 "or part of a day." "With tax or without?" | "Without. Let me go."
*️⃣"qâilun minhum", which is understood to mean "the talkative one among them".

Who's the Boss?

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➔ Qur'an 18:21; Dispute:
18:21 And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allah is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure. Their Lord is most knowing about them." Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid."
▶ The Simpsons - party; The Simpsons go to the reception.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:21 The Simpsons - party
18:21 "[...][That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair" Arguing characters
18:21 "and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure1️⃣. Their Lord is most knowing about them2️⃣."" "I'm driving up to the main building. They've got valet3️⃣ parking tonight."
18:21 "Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid4️⃣."" The dominant character chooses that they should walk instead: "Stop the car. We're walking." Following that decision they find themselves in a situation 👁️‍🗨️ reminiscent of the faithful behind their imam in a masjid (a mosque).
1️⃣In other translations "bun'yanan" is translated as "building".
2️⃣"them" refers to the people of the cave. These people are described earlier in the surah as "young men of sound judgment" (fit'yatun). Fit'yatun is a declension of the word fatan. Fatan has another meaning, used later in the same surah, that of "servant/valet/slave" (lifatahu), remember that.
3️⃣See 2️⃣ above, young man/valet/servant are definitions of the same word in surah 18.
4️⃣I don't have a clear idea of what the sentence means. The term masjid means a station of prostration, it is used to refer to mosques for example because the faithful stop there to practice prayers composed of prostrations (sujud).

The Hour is close, in sound.

➔ Qur'an 18:21; The Hour is to be expected:
18:21 And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allāh is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [...]
▶ The Simpsons - party; Homer hurries to the building, expecting to be called sir:
For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene".
The word translated as "the-Hour" is as-sa'ah. In the ayah, the word is pronounced as-sa'a-ta, but when the word is isolated, the final '-ta' disappears to be replaced by a small breath that comes from the bottom of the throat.
The ' in as-sa'ah corresponds to the Arabic letter 'ayn. It is pronounced by the expulsion of the breath through the constriction of the middle part of the throat. It can sound like a guttural /.
The words sa'ah in Arabic and sir in English are 🔊 close in sound.

Back to fitness

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➔ Qur'an 18:22; Count:
18:22 They [i.e., people] will say there were three, the fourth of them being their dog; and they will say there were five, the sixth of them being their dog - guessing at the unseen; and they will say there were seven, and the eighth of them was their dog. Say, [O Muḥammad], "My Lord is most knowing of their number. None knows them except a few. So do not argue about them except with an obvious argument and do not inquire about them among [the speculators] from anyone."
[+] In addition to the normal continuation of the thread of ayat we're going to look back at ayat counting the beginning of the youths' story. These are ayat that we haven't covered yet:
➔ Qur'an 18:[13-16]; Beginning of the story:
18:13 It is We who relate to you, [O Muhammad], their story in truth. Indeed, they were youths who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in guidance.
18:14 And We made firm their hearts when they stood up and said, "Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Never will we invoke besides Him any deity. We would have certainly spoken, then, an excessive transgression.
18:15 These, our people, have taken besides Him deities. Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority? And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie?"
18:16 [The youths said to one another], "And when you have withdrawn from them and that which they worship other than Allah, retreat to the cave. Your Lord will spread out for you of His mercy and will prepare for you from your affair facility."
▶ The Simpsons - triangle; The Simpsons discuss what they are going to do at the reception.
▶ The Simpsons - highlight; High point of the argument.

Semantic comparisons

I based my comparisons on the vocabulary used in Ayah 18:22. Specifically, the three roots m-r-y, ẓ-h-r and f-t-y.
m-r-y
18:22 [...] So do not argue about them except with an obvious argument
The words used in Arabic translated as "to argue"/"argument" are tumari/mira'an from the root m-r-y. This root generates three main groups of ideas: [dispute/opposition/contestation], [hesitation/doubt], and [squeezing the maximum amount of milk out of a camel's udder]:
Qur'an 18:22 "So do not argue [tumari] about them" The Simpsons - triangle
[dispute/opposition/contestation] [opposition/contestation] "I'm going to regale everyone with my anecdote. You know, the one I tried to say on the radio? Who's going to bleep me this time?"
[squeezing the maximum amount of milk out of a camel's udder] ["milking" an old lady for her money] "I'm going to pose as an Italian count and get some old lady to leave me all her money."
[hesitation/doubt] [hesitation/doubt] "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first."
[+] A little clue led me to take a closer look at the ayat 18:[13-16] narrating the beginning of the story. I made an observation based on Marge's words, "No vulgarity. No mischief. No politics.":
Qur'an 18:[14-15] The Simpsons - triangle "No vulgarity. No mischief. No politics."
18:14 "[...] And We made firm their hearts when they stood up and said, "Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Never will we invoke besides Him any deity. We would have certainly spoken, then, an excessive transgression." (⇢ read [shatatan] below the table ⬇️) [vulgarity] "I'm going to regale everyone with my anecdote. You know, the one I tried to say on the radio? Who's going to bleep me this time?"
18:15 "These, our people, have taken besides Him deities. Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority?" (⇢ read [qawmuna] below the table ⬇️) [politics] "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first."
18:15 "Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority? And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie?"" (⇢ read [mis-chief] below the table ⬇️) [mischief] "I'm going to pose as an Italian count and get some old lady to leave me all her money."
[shatatan] The young people's story and their conversations are said to be narrated "bil-haqqi" (in truth), i.e. as it happened. "shatatan", translated here as "an excessive transgression", is an informal word that is part of youth jargon, according to one explanation I heard. It's a very familiar way of saying "utter nonsense", "an ENORMOUS absurdity".
Perhaps a notch less vulgar than "(talk) sh!t" (or "bullsh#t") but 🔊 phonetically resembling it.
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[qawmuna] "hâulâi" (These) is used to target a specific group of people. In this case "qawmuna" (our people). This is a statement about community affairs. Incidentally, "qawmuna" is 🔊 phonetically close to "common".
"bi-sultanin bayyinin" (with a clear authority) suggests a thinly veiled criticism of the political power. Indeed, the word sultanin can be translated as "compelling evidence" but also as "authority", "rule, dominion" or "sultan".
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[mis-chief] I've repeated the sentence about authority here, because in this story, political authority conditions the religious situation of the people.
In my opinion, it's not just a statement about the people's misguidance, but a barely concealed accusation against their chief and their attachment to him. A pseudo "sultan" who is accused of inventing a baseless lie and thus being a source of wrongdoing and obscurantism.
[+] Another observation:
Qur'an 18:14 The Simpsons - triangle
18:14 "And We made firm their hearts*️⃣ when they stood up and said," Homer's group begins to walk, and as soon as Homer speaks, the "camera" shots show the growing cohesion of the group until they end up in a tight row. They speak collegially and the camera following their faces forms a triangle (the triangle is reputed to be the most stable form for a structure).
*️⃣"rabatna 'ala qulubihim", literally "we tied over their hearts" meaning we've fortified their hearts to keep their composure. It also suggests that their hearts are tied to each other, forming a steady union.
ẓ-h-r
18:22 [...] except with an obvious argument
The word used in Arabic translated as "obvious" is ẓahiran, which means "manifest (whereas previously latent)". This word comes from the root ẓ-h-r which generates seemingly distant meanings from each other. It gives the nouns back (of the body) and midday (when the sun is high) and also the verb to manifest.
A study in French tries to dissect the origin of the polysemy of this root: Une étude de la racine ظهر √ẓhr (A study of the root ظهر √ẓhr) by Jean-Claude Rolland with the collaboration of Jean-Marc Guyetand. The official link is dead at the time I publish this post, fortunately I had made a backup.
I skip the technical explanations and (do my best to) translate the conclusion into English:
Conclusion
There is only one root ظهر √ẓhr, which results from the crossing of the etymons {ẓ,r} and {h,r}.
– By the etymon {ẓ,r}, this root comes under the matrix of the throat and neck. Its semanticism is mainly oriented towards the back perceived as the extension of the back part of the neck, the nape of the neck. The etymon {h,r} only comes in reinforcement in the items relating to the notions of brilliance, midday, appearing, etc.
– But as there is only one word ظَهْر ẓahr to designate both the back of bipeds and that of quadrupeds, the root ظهر √ẓhr comes, by enantiosemy, to express both what is in the back of some, therefore behind them, hidden, invisible, and what is on the backs of others, therefore above, salient, shining, uncovered, visible.
(July 2020)
Qur'an 18:22 The Simpsons - highlight
18:22 "[...] except with an obvious [ẓahiran] argument" "You kids should thank your mother. Now that she's a better person we can see how awful we really are." (⇢ read [ẓahiran] below the table ⬇️)
[ẓahiran] It seems to me that all of these notions carried by the root ẓ-h-r have been assimilated in the form of a cartoon scene:
  • Verticality: Homer's statement carries in itself the notions of the root ẓ-h-r. Something that has reached a (supposedly) high point ("Now that she's a better person") leads to the manifestation ("we can see") of something not observed ("how awful we really are.").
  • Horizontality: Marge turns her back to Homer and the children, and the moment Homer's words hit her is emphasized by a play of light and shadow. Something emerged, the light grows on the front side until it stops at the boundary between front and back. And vice versa, when she finally turns back to Homer and the children. Plus, the dress clearly highlights the throat and neck.
f-t-y
18:22 [...] and do not inquire about them among [the speculators] from anyone.
The word used in Arabic translated as "to inquire" is tastafti. It is a verb formed from the root f-t-y which is declined in different meanings. From this root comes the word fatan which is used in this same surah (n°18) under its two definitions, "young men of sound judgment" (fit'yatun) and "servant/valet/slave" (lifatahu).
Qur'an 18:22 The Simpsons - triangle
18:22 "[...] and do not inquire1️⃣ about them2️⃣ among [the speculators] from anyone." "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants3️⃣' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first." | "No! No! No! Not tonight!"
1️⃣The word in arabic is "tastafti" from the root f-t-y.
2️⃣"them" refers to "fityatun" (from f-t-y; young men).
3️⃣see explanation above the table.

Tomorrow

Sources

➔ Qur'an 18:[23-24]; Tomorrow:
18:23 And never say of anything, "Indeed, I will do that tomorrow,"
18:24 Except [when adding], "If Allah wills." And remember your Lord when you forget [it] and say, "Perhaps my Lord will guide me to what is nearer than this to right conduct."
▶ The Simpsons - sir; Back to the "sir" scene.

Re-verse engineering

Homer Simpson:
For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene".
I think I can reconstruct some semblance of Homer's line by drawing on the two ayat above:
The Simpsons - sir Qur'an 18:[23-24]
maybe someone will 18:24 Perhaps my Lord will
call me 18:23 "wala taqulanna" (And never say). "qul" means "say". An emphatic suffix is added to give the form "-qulanna"; that is phonetically close to qul-'ana' (ana = me, I) ~~> qul 'me' ~~> call me.
sir                                        ? (⇢ read [?] below the table ⬇️)
without adding 18:24 Except [when adding]
"you're making 18:23 "Indeed, I will do
a scene" 18:23 that. "that" refers to "of anything" or more precisely to lishay'in; li[of]-shay'in[a thing]. I find that the /sh/ and /s/ sounds are often interchangeable in this kind of comparison. Which leads me to say that the English word scene and the Arabic word shay'in are 🔊 consonant.
[?] In the first part of the topic I mentioned a trivial correlation that, surprisingly, makes sense here. I wrote in ALL IN ONE > COLUMBO > "sir" scenes:
▶ The Simpsons - sir; Homer says: "For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene"."
▶ Columbo - sir; The character hears himself called "sir" and arguably, he's making a scene...
In the Columbo video, the character reacts to being called "sir" by reciting a line of dialogue from a scene in Macbeth: Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, Macbeth - Act5, scene 5.
It was long before I could see any point in it, that serendipity led me to link "sir" and "tomorrow". That may be the missing link (the "?") of the table above.

Synchronicity

"sir" scene
I was in the process of typing up the content of this section when I watched, for the first time in my life, the film A Few Good Men (1992) with Tom Cruise. And there, synchronicity seems to reinforce the idea of correlation between "sir" and "tomorrow":
▶ A Few Good Men - sir; Particular reaction to being called "sir":
- Is this your signature?
- Yes, sir.
- You don't have to call me "sir". Is this your signature?
- Sir, yes, sir.
- You certainly don't need to do it twice in one sentence.
[...]
- What's a garden variety Code Red?
- Sir?
- Harold, you say "sir", I turn around and look for my father.
tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow...
Immediately following the "sir" scene of the interview with the two Marines, I noticed a sequence of short scenes all formed on the same principle: the character played by Tom Cruise talks with another character, and the scene ends with a "see you tomorrow" type of mention. A cinematographic method to create teasing or a certain tension probably, but less trivially it's the synchronicity with the writing of my topic that I'm highlighting here:
▶ A Few Good Men - tomorrows; Tomorrows in a row.

The right conduct

Something I noted:
Qur'an 18:24 The Simpsons - sir A Few Good Men - sir
18:24 Except [when adding], "If Allah wills." And remember your Lord when you forget [it] and say, "Perhaps my Lord will guide me to what is nearer than this to right conduct." Homer says: "For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene"." In other words, that his conduct would be in accordance with etiquette. "What's a Code Red?" | "Sir, a Code Red is a disciplinary engagement." | "What's that mean exactly?" | "Sir, a Marine falls out of line, it's up to the men in his unit to get him back on track."

Time and money

Sources

➔ Qur'an 18:25; Three hundred + nine:
And they remained in their cave for three hundred years and exceeded by nine.
▶ The Simpsons - thirty-three hundred; Marge's confession:
We'll have a thirty-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel.

Getting the count right

Qur'an 18:25 The Simpsons - thirty-three hundred
18:25 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years [...] "We'll have a thirty-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel."
18:25 [...] and exceeded by nine "We'll have a thirty*️⃣-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel."
*️⃣"nine" in Ayah 18:25 is "tis'a" (with a 'ayn). Sounds like tisra with an 'r' from the middle part of the throat.
Placing the last syllable of the word "thirty" at the beginning gives "ty-thir". The pronunciation of the 'th' in thirty is close to the /s/ sound. So it sounds like tee-thir, quite close to 🔊 tis'a.

Face to face

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➔ Qur'an 18:28; Patience:
And keep yourself patient [by being] with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, seeking His countenance. And let not your eyes pass beyond them, desiring adornments of the worldly life, and do not obey one whose heart We have made heedless of Our remembrance and who follows his desire and whose affair is ever [in] neglect.
▶ The Simpsons - face to face; Marge faces a dilemma.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:28 The Simpsons - face to face
18:28 "And keep yourself patient [by being] with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, seeking His countenance1️⃣." "Come here, Maggie. Oh, Homie I like your in-your-face humanity. I like the way Lisa speaks her mind. I like Bart's... I like Bart."
18:28 "And let not your eyes pass beyond them, desiring adornments of the worldly life" The main character in the scene first turns her gaze away from the other characters to look in the direction of the reception room, then changes her mind and looks back to them. Facing each of them, one after the other.
18:28 "and do not obey one whose heart We have made heedless of Our remembrance" "Come on, let's go. I wouldn't want to join any club that would have this me as a member."
18:28 "and who follows his desire and whose affair is ever [in] neglect2️⃣." "I didn't have to spend our savings on this stupid gown."
1️⃣"wajhahu", literally "His face".
2️⃣"furutan", can also be translated as "excess", "exaggeration".

Surrounded

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➔ Qur'an 18:[29-31]; Fire and gardens:
18:29 And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place.
18:30 Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - indeed, We will not allow to be lost the reward of any who did well in deeds.
18:31 Those will have gardens of perpetual residence; beneath them rivers will flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade, reclining therein on adorned couches. Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place.
▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; The Simpsons ignore the reception and go to Krusty Burger.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[29-31] The Simpsons - surrounded
18:29 "[...] Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them." Shot of the exterior of the clubhouse, from which a dense yellowish light emanates: 👁️‍🗨️ The Simpsons - fire walls
18:29 "And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil*️⃣" A character drinks a yellow liquid: 👁️‍🗨️ The Simpsons - molten brass
18:29 "which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place." The liquid-drinking character is visually superimposed on another character behind her, whose face will soon express disgust. Followed by a transition shot of a face emitting a bright pulsating light. See ▶ The Simpsons - burning face
18:31 "[...] beneath them rivers will flow." The floor is washed with water just below where the main characters are seated.
18:31 "[...] and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade," (⇢ read [Green and Silk] below the table ⬇️)
18:31 "reclining therein on adorned couches" The main characters are seated on comfortable banquettes.
18:31 "Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place." "But, you know, we realized we're more comfortable in a place like this."
*️⃣"kal-muh'li" in the Qur'anic text. The translation I use here says "murky oil", but another popular interpretation is "molten brass". You can also find "molten copper", "molten rocks", etc. It always refers to a scorching-hot liquid substance.
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[Green and Silk]
[...] and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade
The whole surah revolves around the idea of comparison between two parties, I see here the entanglement of the notions of life in the "gardens of perpetual residence" and life in this world. I explain, green garments enters the lexical field of gardens while silk is part of the aspirations of this world.
Another thing about silk. I heard an explanation about the locution "sundusin wa-is'tabraqin" (fine silk and brocade). This would refer to fine silk garments with added thickness of fabric (is'tabraqin). The addition of "is'tabraqin" to the locution is understood to express the most expensive silk garments.
Back to The Simpsons:
  1. ▶ The Simpsons - city; The main character of the episode is looking for high quality clothing: "Miss? Do you have a Chanel suit or any other high-quality clothes?"
  2. ▶ The Simpsons - dollar; She finally buys a Chanel dress. Very likely a silk dress: "Ooh. Ooh. Ahh." "Mom, you are looking fabulous." "Yeah. You look great."
  3. ▶ The Simpsons - face to face; The same character who misses her green dress: "And I like my old green dress. I didn't have to spend our savings on this stupid gown."
  4. ▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; The character expressed her contentment with her green dress, but outwardly she's still wearing Chanel: "Hey, did you guys just come from the prom?" | "Sort of."

The good place

A little thought on the question of the good place and the bad place.
Spoiled for choice
➔ Qur'an 18:[29-31]:
18:29 And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." [...]
Qur'an 18:29 Qur'an 18:[30-31]
18:29 "[...] Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them." 18:30 "Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - indeed, We will not allow to be lost the reward of any who did well in deeds."
18:29 "[...] And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place." 18:31 "Those will have gardens of perpetual residence; beneath them rivers will flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade, reclining therein on adorned couches. Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place."
Dump and go
▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; Good place? Bad place?:
Marge Busboy
"But, you know, we realized we're more comfortable in a place like this." "Man, you're crazy. This place is a dump. Oh man, I'd be anywhere except this place, that's for sure."
The Good Place
It's likely that some of you have already made the connection with The Good Place show. As for me, I only know it by name, but I understand that the main plot coincides with this subject. I refer to it here because, in addition to that, the 👁️‍🗨️ official imagery features characters sitting on a sofa.
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This observation leads me to another. At the beginning of every Simpsons episode there's the couch gag, so I checked what the couch gag is for this episode:
▶ The Simpsons - couch gag: It's about the Simpson family sitting on the couch and their skin seems to have turned green...
◼️ This completes the transcription of the synchromystic correspondence.
End of part 2/3.
Some observations + the conclusion in On the trail of a spirit (3/3) →
submitted by LtColumbo403 to Retconned [link] [comments]


2024.04.20 19:50 LtColumbo403 On the trail of a spirit (2/3)

← On the trail of a spirit (1/3)
IN THE QUR'AN

THE CAVE

We are now firmly anchored in synchromysticism, and it is in this context that I notice other correspondences with the Qur'an.
I was still pondering the word "club" when a scene from an episode of The Simpsons piqued my curiosity. From there I discovered what I call a synchromystic correspondence between part of the Simpsons episode and the story of the companions of the cave described in Surah 18 of the Qur'an, The Cave.
From an entry point, if we use similarities as markers, the unfolding of the Simpsons scenes is almost in sync with the sequence of ayat in Surah 18 from the moment the young men entered the cave. I'll try to clarify this for you:

In the cave

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➔ Qur'an 18:[17-18]; The young men entered the cave:
18:17 And [had you been present], you would see the sun when it rose, inclining away from their cave on the right, and when it set, passing away from them on the left, while they were [lying] within an open space thereof. That was from the signs of Allah. He whom Allah guides is the [rightly] guided, but he whom He leaves astray - never will you find for him a protecting guide.
18:18 And you would think them awake, while they were asleep. And We turned them to the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror.
▶ The Simpsons - sun; Mr. Burns' turn to strike the ball.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[17-18] The Simpsons - sun
18:17 "And [had you been present], you would see the sun when it rose, inclining away from their cave on the right, and when it set, passing away from them on the left," Note that in the first scene of the video the thrown ball is shown merging with the sun. Then the next ball has a deviated trajectory from left to right: "Oh, a cunning stratagem, sir. It's curving right toward the green, and it's... there."
18:17 "while they were [lying] within an open space thereof." A 👁️‍🗨️ wide open space (clearing) between group of trees.
18:18 "And you would think them awake, while they were asleep." A character suddenly loses consciousness, causing another character to be confused.
18:18 "And We turned them to the right and to the left," A character turning on himself (starting from his left) with a club in his hand. (⇢ read [q-l-b] below the table ⬇️)
18:18 "while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance." 👁️‍🗨️ Two parallel golf clubs on the ground, in the foreground in front of the clearing. (⇢ read [k-l-b] below the table ⬇️)
18:18 "If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror." A character flees in haste at the sight of another lying on the ground.
[q-l-b]: Note that Homer turns through 360° with a club in his hands and the club itself turns on its axis in the air. In Ayah 18:18 the word used to express the action of turning something is "wanuqallibuhum" from the root q-l-b; wa[and]-nu[we]-qallibu[turned]-hum[them].
There is a 🔊 resemblance in sound between the consonants of the word club in English, c-l-b, and the root q-l-b in Arabic (the sound produced by the letter Qaf in Arabic is a kind of [k] pronounced further back in the throat).
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[k-l-b]: Same idea as [q-l-b] here. In Ayah 18:18 the word used for "while their dog" is wakalbuhum; wa[and]-kalbu[dog]-hum[their]. Kalb from the root k-l-b.
The consonants of the word club in English, c-l-b, and the root k-l-b in Arabic are 🔊 very much alike in sound.
And the dog stretches forth its two forelegs, "dhira'ayhi", which is a declension of the word dhira' (cubit, from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger). Their shape could well be represented by golf clubs.

Delivery

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➔ Qur'an 18:[19-20]; The companions of the cave are released and discuss their affair:
18:19 And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them, "How long have you remained [here]?" They said, "We have remained a day or part of a day." They said, "Your Lord is most knowing of how long you remained. So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city and let him look to which is the best of food and bring you provision from it and let him be cautious. And let no one be aware of you.
18:20 Indeed, if they come to know of you, they will stone you or return you to their religion. And never would you succeed, then - ever."
▶ The Simpsons - city; Marge travels to a faraway city in search of a high-quality dress.
▶ The Simpsons - dollar; This time, Marge goes to Main Street and buys a high fashion dress.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[19-20] The Simpsons - city
18:19 "[...] So send one of you with this silver coin of yours to the city" A character going alone in a city...
18:19 "and let him look to which is the best of food*️⃣ and bring you provision from it" "Miss? Do you have a Chanel suit or any other high-quality clothes?"
18:20 "[...] they will stone you" A character stoned by a golf ball
18:20 "or return you to their religion." "I'm sure he'd support your application for membership tonight." | "Bull honkey! I don't care about joining this stupid club." | "But does your wife?"
*️⃣"azka ta'aman", literally "the purest food".

Time is money

Qur'an 18:19 The Simpsons - dollar
18:19 "And similarly, We awakened them that they might question one another. Said a speaker from among them*️⃣," Just as they are about to exit the house, the chatty character asks another one questions.
18:19 "How long have you remained [here]?" "How much did it cost?"
18:19 "They said, "We have remained a day" "A dollar. Let's go."
18:19 "or part of a day." "With tax or without?" | "Without. Let me go."
*️⃣"qâilun minhum", which is understood to mean "the talkative one among them".

Who's the Boss?

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➔ Qur'an 18:21; Dispute:
18:21 And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allah is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure. Their Lord is most knowing about them." Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid."
▶ The Simpsons - party; The Simpsons go to the reception.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:21 The Simpsons - party
18:21 "[...][That was] when they disputed among themselves about their affair" Arguing characters
18:21 "and [then] said, "Construct over them a structure1️⃣. Their Lord is most knowing about them2️⃣."" "I'm driving up to the main building. They've got valet3️⃣ parking tonight."
18:21 "Said those who prevailed in the matter, "We will surely take [for ourselves] over them a masjid4️⃣."" The dominant character chooses that they should walk instead: "Stop the car. We're walking." Following that decision they find themselves in a situation 👁️‍🗨️ reminiscent of the faithful behind their imam in a masjid (a mosque).
1️⃣In other translations "bun'yanan" is translated as "building".
2️⃣"them" refers to the people of the cave. These people are described earlier in the surah as "young men of sound judgment" (fit'yatun). Fit'yatun is a declension of the word fatan. Fatan has another meaning, used later in the same surah, that of "servant/valet/slave" (lifatahu), remember that.
3️⃣See 2️⃣ above, young man/valet/servant are definitions of the same word in surah 18.
4️⃣I don't have a clear idea of what the sentence means. The term masjid means a station of prostration, it is used to refer to mosques for example because the faithful stop there to practice prayers composed of prostrations (sujud).

The Hour is close, in sound.

➔ Qur'an 18:21; The Hour is to be expected:
18:21 And similarly, We caused them to be found that they [who found them] would know that the promise of Allāh is truth and that of the Hour there is no doubt. [...]
▶ The Simpsons - party; Homer hurries to the building, expecting to be called sir:
For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene".
The word translated as "the-Hour" is as-sa'ah. In the ayah, the word is pronounced as-sa'a-ta, but when the word is isolated, the final '-ta' disappears to be replaced by a small breath that comes from the bottom of the throat.
The ' in as-sa'ah corresponds to the Arabic letter 'ayn. It is pronounced by the expulsion of the breath through the constriction of the middle part of the throat. It can sound like a guttural /.
The words sa'ah in Arabic and sir in English are 🔊 close in sound.

Back to fitness

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➔ Qur'an 18:22; Count:
18:22 They [i.e., people] will say there were three, the fourth of them being their dog; and they will say there were five, the sixth of them being their dog - guessing at the unseen; and they will say there were seven, and the eighth of them was their dog. Say, [O Muḥammad], "My Lord is most knowing of their number. None knows them except a few. So do not argue about them except with an obvious argument and do not inquire about them among [the speculators] from anyone."
[+] In addition to the normal continuation of the thread of ayat we're going to look back at ayat counting the beginning of the youths' story. These are ayat that we haven't covered yet:
➔ Qur'an 18:[13-16]; Beginning of the story:
18:13 It is We who relate to you, [O Muhammad], their story in truth. Indeed, they were youths who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in guidance.
18:14 And We made firm their hearts when they stood up and said, "Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Never will we invoke besides Him any deity. We would have certainly spoken, then, an excessive transgression.
18:15 These, our people, have taken besides Him deities. Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority? And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie?"
18:16 [The youths said to one another], "And when you have withdrawn from them and that which they worship other than Allah, retreat to the cave. Your Lord will spread out for you of His mercy and will prepare for you from your affair facility."
▶ The Simpsons - triangle; The Simpsons discuss what they are going to do at the reception.
▶ The Simpsons - highlight; High point of the argument.

Semantic comparisons

I based my comparisons on the vocabulary used in Ayah 18:22. Specifically, the three roots m-r-y, ẓ-h-r and f-t-y.
m-r-y
18:22 [...] So do not argue about them except with an obvious argument
The words used in Arabic translated as "to argue"/"argument" are tumari/mira'an from the root m-r-y. This root generates three main groups of ideas: [dispute/opposition/contestation], [hesitation/doubt], and [squeezing the maximum amount of milk out of a camel's udder]:
Qur'an 18:22 "So do not argue [tumari] about them" The Simpsons - triangle
[dispute/opposition/contestation] [opposition/contestation] "I'm going to regale everyone with my anecdote. You know, the one I tried to say on the radio? Who's going to bleep me this time?"
[squeezing the maximum amount of milk out of a camel's udder] ["milking" an old lady for her money] "I'm going to pose as an Italian count and get some old lady to leave me all her money."
[hesitation/doubt] [hesitation/doubt] "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first."
[+] A little clue led me to take a closer look at the ayat 18:[13-16] narrating the beginning of the story. I made an observation based on Marge's words, "No vulgarity. No mischief. No politics.":
Qur'an 18:[14-15] The Simpsons - triangle "No vulgarity. No mischief. No politics."
18:14 "[...] And We made firm their hearts when they stood up and said, "Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. Never will we invoke besides Him any deity. We would have certainly spoken, then, an excessive transgression." (⇢ read [shatatan] below the table ⬇️) [vulgarity] "I'm going to regale everyone with my anecdote. You know, the one I tried to say on the radio? Who's going to bleep me this time?"
18:15 "These, our people, have taken besides Him deities. Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority?" (⇢ read [qawmuna] below the table ⬇️) [politics] "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first."
18:15 "Why do they not bring for [worship of] them a clear authority? And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah a lie?"" (⇢ read [mis-chief] below the table ⬇️) [mischief] "I'm going to pose as an Italian count and get some old lady to leave me all her money."
[shatatan] The young people's story and their conversations are said to be narrated "bil-haqqi" (in truth), i.e. as it happened. "shatatan", translated here as "an excessive transgression", is an informal word that is part of youth jargon, according to one explanation I heard. It's a very familiar way of saying "utter nonsense", "an ENORMOUS absurdity".
Perhaps a notch less vulgar than "(talk) sh!t" (or "bullsh#t") but 🔊 phonetically resembling it.
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[qawmuna] "hâulâi" (These) is used to target a specific group of people. In this case "qawmuna" (our people). This is a statement about community affairs. Incidentally, "qawmuna" is 🔊 phonetically close to "common".
"bi-sultanin bayyinin" (with a clear authority) suggests a thinly veiled criticism of the political power. Indeed, the word sultanin can be translated as "compelling evidence" but also as "authority", "rule, dominion" or "sultan".
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[mis-chief] I've repeated the sentence about authority here, because in this story, political authority conditions the religious situation of the people.
In my opinion, it's not just a statement about the people's misguidance, but a barely concealed accusation against their chief and their attachment to him. A pseudo "sultan" who is accused of inventing a baseless lie and thus being a source of wrongdoing and obscurantism.
[+] Another observation:
Qur'an 18:14 The Simpsons - triangle
18:14 "And We made firm their hearts*️⃣ when they stood up and said," Homer's group begins to walk, and as soon as Homer speaks, the "camera" shots show the growing cohesion of the group until they end up in a tight row. They speak collegially and the camera following their faces forms a triangle (the triangle is reputed to be the most stable form for a structure).
*️⃣"rabatna 'ala qulubihim", literally "we tied over their hearts" meaning we've fortified their hearts to keep their composure. It also suggests that their hearts are tied to each other, forming a steady union.
ẓ-h-r
18:22 [...] except with an obvious argument
The word used in Arabic translated as "obvious" is ẓahiran, which means "manifest (whereas previously latent)". This word comes from the root ẓ-h-r which generates seemingly distant meanings from each other. It gives the nouns back (of the body) and midday (when the sun is high) and also the verb to manifest.
A study in French tries to dissect the origin of the polysemy of this root: Une étude de la racine ظهر √ẓhr (A study of the root ظهر √ẓhr) by Jean-Claude Rolland with the collaboration of Jean-Marc Guyetand. The official link is dead at the time I publish this post, fortunately I had made a backup.
I skip the technical explanations and (do my best to) translate the conclusion into English:
Conclusion
There is only one root ظهر √ẓhr, which results from the crossing of the etymons {ẓ,r} and {h,r}.
– By the etymon {ẓ,r}, this root comes under the matrix of the throat and neck. Its semanticism is mainly oriented towards the back perceived as the extension of the back part of the neck, the nape of the neck. The etymon {h,r} only comes in reinforcement in the items relating to the notions of brilliance, midday, appearing, etc.
– But as there is only one word ظَهْر ẓahr to designate both the back of bipeds and that of quadrupeds, the root ظهر √ẓhr comes, by enantiosemy, to express both what is in the back of some, therefore behind them, hidden, invisible, and what is on the backs of others, therefore above, salient, shining, uncovered, visible.
(July 2020)
Qur'an 18:22 The Simpsons - highlight
18:22 "[...] except with an obvious [ẓahiran] argument" "You kids should thank your mother. Now that she's a better person we can see how awful we really are." (⇢ read [ẓahiran] below the table ⬇️)
[ẓahiran] It seems to me that all of these notions carried by the root ẓ-h-r have been assimilated in the form of a cartoon scene:
  • Verticality: Homer's statement carries in itself the notions of the root ẓ-h-r. Something that has reached a (supposedly) high point ("Now that she's a better person") leads to the manifestation ("we can see") of something not observed ("how awful we really are.").
  • Horizontality: Marge turns her back to Homer and the children, and the moment Homer's words hit her is emphasized by a play of light and shadow. Something emerged, the light grows on the front side until it stops at the boundary between front and back. And vice versa, when she finally turns back to Homer and the children. Plus, the dress clearly highlights the throat and neck.
f-t-y
18:22 [...] and do not inquire about them among [the speculators] from anyone.
The word used in Arabic translated as "to inquire" is tastafti. It is a verb formed from the root f-t-y which is declined in different meanings. From this root comes the word fatan which is used in this same surah (n°18) under its two definitions, "young men of sound judgment" (fit'yatun) and "servant/valet/slave" (lifatahu).
Qur'an 18:22 The Simpsons - triangle
18:22 "[...] and do not inquire1️⃣ about them2️⃣ among [the speculators] from anyone." "I'm going to ask people if they know their servants3️⃣' last names or, in the case of butlers, their first." | "No! No! No! Not tonight!"
1️⃣The word in arabic is "tastafti" from the root f-t-y.
2️⃣"them" refers to "fityatun" (from f-t-y; young men).
3️⃣see explanation above the table.

Tomorrow

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➔ Qur'an 18:[23-24]; Tomorrow:
18:23 And never say of anything, "Indeed, I will do that tomorrow,"
18:24 Except [when adding], "If Allah wills." And remember your Lord when you forget [it] and say, "Perhaps my Lord will guide me to what is nearer than this to right conduct."
▶ The Simpsons - sir; Back to the "sir" scene.

Re-verse engineering

Homer Simpson:
For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene".
I think I can reconstruct some semblance of Homer's line by drawing on the two ayat above:
The Simpsons - sir Qur'an 18:[23-24]
maybe someone will 18:24 Perhaps my Lord will
call me 18:23 "wala taqulanna" (And never say). "qul" means "say". An emphatic suffix is added to give the form "-qulanna"; that is phonetically close to qul-'ana' (ana = me, I) ~~> qul 'me' ~~> call me.
sir                                        ? (⇢ read [?] below the table ⬇️)
without adding 18:24 Except [when adding]
"you're making 18:23 "Indeed, I will do
a scene" 18:23 that. "that" refers to "of anything" or more precisely to lishay'in; li[of]-shay'in[a thing]. I find that the /sh/ and /s/ sounds are often interchangeable in this kind of comparison. Which leads me to say that the English word scene and the Arabic word shay'in are 🔊 consonant.
[?] In the first part of the topic I mentioned a trivial correlation that, surprisingly, makes sense here. I wrote in ALL IN ONE > COLUMBO > "sir" scenes:
▶ The Simpsons - sir; Homer says: "For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene"."
▶ Columbo - sir; The character hears himself called "sir" and arguably, he's making a scene...
In the Columbo video, the character reacts to being called "sir" by reciting a line of dialogue from a scene in Macbeth: Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, Macbeth - Act5, scene 5.
It was long before I could see any point in it, that serendipity led me to link "sir" and "tomorrow". That may be the missing link (the "?") of the table above.

Synchronicity

"sir" scene
I was in the process of typing up the content of this section when I watched, for the first time in my life, the film A Few Good Men (1992) with Tom Cruise. And there, synchronicity seems to reinforce the idea of correlation between "sir" and "tomorrow":
▶ A Few Good Men - sir; Particular reaction to being called "sir":
- Is this your signature?
- Yes, sir.
- You don't have to call me "sir". Is this your signature?
- Sir, yes, sir.
- You certainly don't need to do it twice in one sentence.
[...]
- What's a garden variety Code Red?
- Sir?
- Harold, you say "sir", I turn around and look for my father.
tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow...
Immediately following the "sir" scene of the interview with the two Marines, I noticed a sequence of short scenes all formed on the same principle: the character played by Tom Cruise talks with another character, and the scene ends with a "see you tomorrow" type of mention. A cinematographic method to create teasing or a certain tension probably, but less trivially it's the synchronicity with the writing of my topic that I'm highlighting here:
▶ A Few Good Men - tomorrows; Tomorrows in a row.

The right conduct

Something I noted:
Qur'an 18:24 The Simpsons - sir A Few Good Men - sir
18:24 Except [when adding], "If Allah wills." And remember your Lord when you forget [it] and say, "Perhaps my Lord will guide me to what is nearer than this to right conduct." Homer says: "For once, maybe someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene"." In other words, that his conduct would be in accordance with etiquette. "What's a Code Red?" | "Sir, a Code Red is a disciplinary engagement." | "What's that mean exactly?" | "Sir, a Marine falls out of line, it's up to the men in his unit to get him back on track."

Time and money

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➔ Qur'an 18:25; Three hundred + nine:
And they remained in their cave for three hundred years and exceeded by nine.
▶ The Simpsons - thirty-three hundred; Marge's confession:
We'll have a thirty-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel.

Getting the count right

Qur'an 18:25 The Simpsons - thirty-three hundred
18:25 And they remained in their cave for three hundred years [...] "We'll have a thirty-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel."
18:25 [...] and exceeded by nine "We'll have a thirty*️⃣-three hundred dollars credit at Chanel."
*️⃣"nine" in Ayah 18:25 is "tis'a" (with a 'ayn). Sounds like tisra with an 'r' from the middle part of the throat.
Placing the last syllable of the word "thirty" at the beginning gives "ty-thir". The pronunciation of the 'th' in thirty is close to the /s/ sound. So it sounds like tee-thir, quite close to 🔊 tis'a.

Face to face

Sources

➔ Qur'an 18:28; Patience:
And keep yourself patient [by being] with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, seeking His countenance. And let not your eyes pass beyond them, desiring adornments of the worldly life, and do not obey one whose heart We have made heedless of Our remembrance and who follows his desire and whose affair is ever [in] neglect.
▶ The Simpsons - face to face; Marge faces a dilemma.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:28 The Simpsons - face to face
18:28 "And keep yourself patient [by being] with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and the evening, seeking His countenance1️⃣." "Come here, Maggie. Oh, Homie I like your in-your-face humanity. I like the way Lisa speaks her mind. I like Bart's... I like Bart."
18:28 "And let not your eyes pass beyond them, desiring adornments of the worldly life" The main character in the scene first turns her gaze away from the other characters to look in the direction of the reception room, then changes her mind and looks back to them. Facing each of them, one after the other.
18:28 "and do not obey one whose heart We have made heedless of Our remembrance" "Come on, let's go. I wouldn't want to join any club that would have this me as a member."
18:28 "and who follows his desire and whose affair is ever [in] neglect2️⃣." "I didn't have to spend our savings on this stupid gown."
1️⃣"wajhahu", literally "His face".
2️⃣"furutan", can also be translated as "excess", "exaggeration".

Surrounded

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➔ Qur'an 18:[29-31]; Fire and gardens:
18:29 And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place.
18:30 Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - indeed, We will not allow to be lost the reward of any who did well in deeds.
18:31 Those will have gardens of perpetual residence; beneath them rivers will flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade, reclining therein on adorned couches. Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place.
▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; The Simpsons ignore the reception and go to Krusty Burger.

Comparison table

Qur'an 18:[29-31] The Simpsons - surrounded
18:29 "[...] Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them." Shot of the exterior of the clubhouse, from which a dense yellowish light emanates: 👁️‍🗨️ The Simpsons - fire walls
18:29 "And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil*️⃣" A character drinks a yellow liquid: 👁️‍🗨️ The Simpsons - molten brass
18:29 "which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place." The liquid-drinking character is visually superimposed on another character behind her, whose face will soon express disgust. Followed by a transition shot of a face emitting a bright pulsating light. See ▶ The Simpsons - burning face
18:31 "[...] beneath them rivers will flow." The floor is washed with water just below where the main characters are seated.
18:31 "[...] and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade," (⇢ read [Green and Silk] below the table ⬇️)
18:31 "reclining therein on adorned couches" The main characters are seated on comfortable banquettes.
18:31 "Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place." "But, you know, we realized we're more comfortable in a place like this."
*️⃣"kal-muh'li" in the Qur'anic text. The translation I use here says "murky oil", but another popular interpretation is "molten brass". You can also find "molten copper", "molten rocks", etc. It always refers to a scorching-hot liquid substance.
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[Green and Silk]
[...] and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade
The whole surah revolves around the idea of comparison between two parties, I see here the entanglement of the notions of life in the "gardens of perpetual residence" and life in this world. I explain, green garments enters the lexical field of gardens while silk is part of the aspirations of this world.
Another thing about silk. I heard an explanation about the locution "sundusin wa-is'tabraqin" (fine silk and brocade). This would refer to fine silk garments with added thickness of fabric (is'tabraqin). The addition of "is'tabraqin" to the locution is understood to express the most expensive silk garments.
Back to The Simpsons:
  1. ▶ The Simpsons - city; The main character of the episode is looking for high quality clothing: "Miss? Do you have a Chanel suit or any other high-quality clothes?"
  2. ▶ The Simpsons - dollar; She finally buys a Chanel dress. Very likely a silk dress: "Ooh. Ooh. Ahh." "Mom, you are looking fabulous." "Yeah. You look great."
  3. ▶ The Simpsons - face to face; The same character who misses her green dress: "And I like my old green dress. I didn't have to spend our savings on this stupid gown."
  4. ▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; The character expressed her contentment with her green dress, but outwardly she's still wearing Chanel: "Hey, did you guys just come from the prom?" | "Sort of."

The good place

A little thought on the question of the good place and the bad place.
Spoiled for choice
➔ Qur'an 18:[29-31]:
18:29 And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." [...]
Qur'an 18:29 Qur'an 18:[30-31]
18:29 "[...] Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them." 18:30 "Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - indeed, We will not allow to be lost the reward of any who did well in deeds."
18:29 "[...] And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place." 18:31 "Those will have gardens of perpetual residence; beneath them rivers will flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and will wear green garments of fine silk and brocade, reclining therein on adorned couches. Excellent is the reward, and good is the resting place."
Dump and go
▶ The Simpsons - surrounded; Good place? Bad place?:
Marge Busboy
"But, you know, we realized we're more comfortable in a place like this." "Man, you're crazy. This place is a dump. Oh man, I'd be anywhere except this place, that's for sure."
The Good Place
It's likely that some of you have already made the connection with The Good Place show. As for me, I only know it by name, but I understand that the main plot coincides with this subject. I refer to it here because, in addition to that, the 👁️‍🗨️ official imagery features characters sitting on a sofa.
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This observation leads me to another. At the beginning of every Simpsons episode there's the couch gag, so I checked what the couch gag is for this episode:
▶ The Simpsons - couch gag: It's about the Simpson family sitting on the couch and their skin seems to have turned green...
◼️ This completes the transcription of the synchromystic correspondence.
End of part 2/3.
Some observations + the conclusion in On the trail of a spirit (3/3) →
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2024.04.20 17:06 CattleEducational866 My (long) attempt at actually outlining the Quran's literary miracle! (Part 2)

2: Meaning.
To understand the Quran’s linguistic beauty, you must understand a little bit about the Arabic language. The way words are made in Arabic is through 3, 4 and sometimes 5 letter roots (mostly 3). A root like A-KH-R can be inserted into 10 different verb “skeletons” to create 10 different verbs (not all are used, some verbs, for example, only occupy 3 of the 10 forms).
Then, each of these verbs can have multiple meanings, depending on context. So, one three-letter root can be linked to 40 or 50 nouns and verbs. However, all of these different constructions and meanings revolve around one vague idea. A-Kh-R is a root loosely having to do with the concept of “end”, so all meanings play with this idea to produce various words having to do with “end” or being at the “end” of something, or even being at the “other” side of something. It’s weird, but it ends up allowing speakers and writers to have a lot of creativity and lots of arcane meanings to create and choose from.
For starters, the Quran created new words and entire literary concepts to fit the meaning it wanted to convey. The poets of the Prophet’s (PBUH) time used to be known by the one word that they managed to squeeze into daily vernacular usage. The Quran brought a trove of new words and phrases, and used existing words in new ways. It did this not once every few chapters, or once every chapter, but every few verses, sometimes once a verse. In fact, each chapter of the Quran is about 70-80% uniquely constructed, i.e. the vocabulary and sentence structures appear only in their home chapter. This is why the Quran enraptured the expert poets of the Prophet’s time: it was simply an unprecedented use of the Arabic language.
Someone has written a book on this particular point here. It’s translated from Arabic, so it just presents its evidence and allows the arabic-speaking reader to reach the obvious conclusion, leaving it a bit unclear for non-Arabic speakers. But it outlines the argument of Quranic novelty, and just how earth-shattering the Quranic language is when compared to pre-Islamic poetry.
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To explain the beauty of the Quranic language is difficult, and even more so to non-Arabic speakers, but I can try. First is the imagery it uses. In Arabic, words are (loosley, almost intuitively) linked to their sounds. The root for “cut” – Qa-Ta-’A – consists of three “stop”/”cutting” phonetic sounds. The word for water – M-A-’ – opens itself with a long vowel between its “closed” beginning and end, like water flowing from point A to point B. These onomatopoeias are present throughout the Arabic language, and can get really specific, though their understanding is totally intuitive.
So the Quran’s descriptive language is beautiful on two levels, and these can only be achieved through intentional choice, as some words are more descriptive and onomatopoeic than others. These two are the meaning of the word itself and the sound of the word. The imagery of the Quran is not only visually creative, but also aurally in line with the meaning it conveys. A verse describing heaven will use light and airy letters. A verse describing hell will use heavy, harsh letters. Tt goes much deeper than that - almost every word of imagery in the Quran is imbued with this rich symphony of sound and meaning. You can *feel* the words of the Quran by how they sound. This is unique, but not divine on its own.
Second, is of course, the content of the imagery itself, which is complex and layered with meaning, far exceeding what any poet of the 7th century can possibly produce. Critics have compared the following verse to Dante’s Inferno, written 700 years after the Quran, without the constraints of Tajweed.
24:35Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. His light is like a niche in which there is a lamp, the lamp is in a crystal, the crystal is like a shining star, lit from ˹the oil of˺ a blessed olive tree, ˹located˺ neither to the east nor the west, whose oil would almost glow, even without being touched by fire. Light upon light! Allah guides whoever He wills to His light. And Allah sets forth parables for humanity. For Allah has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of all things.
Believe it or not, the beauty of this verse is severely hampered by the translation, both in sound and in richness of meaning, here’s an audio to make up for some of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSvjEQvxip4.
Or take 2:14-20. Notice the interplay between imagery and meaning. This isn’t beauty for the sake of beauty - it’s trying to deliver a certain meaning. It’s up to you, the reader, to decipher this metaphor and glean from it something of value.
//When they meet the believers they say, “We believe.” But when alone with their evil associates they say, “We are definitely with you; we were only mocking.”//Allah will throw their mockery back at them, leaving them to continue wandering blindly in their defiance.They are the ones who trade guidance for misguidance. But this trade is profitless, and they are not ˹rightly˺ guided.//Their example is that of someone who kindles a fire, but when it lights up all around them, Allah takes away their light, leaving them in complete darkness—unable to see.//They are ˹wilfully˺ deaf, ---- (removed for automod), and blind, so they will never return ˹to the Right Path˺.//Or ˹those caught in˺ a rainstorm from the sky with darkness, thunder, and lightning. They press their fingers into their ears at the sound of every thunder-clap for fear of death. And Allah encompasses the disbelievers ˹by His might˺.//It is as if the lightning were about to snatch away their sight. Whenever lightning strikes, they walk in its light, but when darkness covers them, they stand still. Had Allah willed, He could have taken away their hearing and sight. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything.
If the metaphor flew over your head (as it did mine) there are many exegesis available to clarify the exact meaning.
The Quran is chock-full of these rich descriptive metaphors that fly high above anything in pre-Islamic poetry. You can find this out yourself: go read translations of Arabic poetry then read the Quran. You would be undercutting the meanings of both through translation, but the Quran much more so.The Quran uses imagery and onomatopoeia together, giving its words and phrases earth-shattering impact. This is extremely difficult to do, like in any literary work, but not divine on its own.
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The miracle comes if we combine this with the rhythm of the Quran. We have all heard catchy melodies and phrases. We’ve all read beautiful descriptive imagery. We’ve even seen them combined together in song, poetry, and other art. However, the Quran differentiates itself from and surpasses all literature through its combination of unmatched literary depth and the constraint of Tajweed.
I suggest you go back and listen to the Surahs I linked in my last post and try to understand what they are saying. Keep in mind what you have learned about tajweed. It's very difficult to believe that such sophisticated imagery and discourse could be presented through the grammatical chokehold of Tajweed.
It's even more unlikely that anyone in 7th century Arabia actually put this together, especially considering how short pre-islamic poetry is, how basic its language is compared to the Quran, and how it looks so minuscule in the face of the Quran, without the impossible constraint of Tajweed on it.
Finally, I understand that there is an aspect of subjectivity here, but this isn’t any more subjective than art criticism. We generally agree on what good art is. We attach ourselves to it en masse. So to pretend all of a sudden that literary evaluation of the Quran is this hyper-subjective thing is fallacious. We all know Shakespeare is incredible, and we can describe the unique traits that make his art special. All I’ve done is laid out the traits of the Quran - it’s up to you to evaluate whether an unlettered (or at least uneducated) man from 7th Century Arabia, or, if you subscribe to rejected, fringe historical theories, a council from the 9th century, or some group of poets, could produce 6236 verses, which when read with a specific set of rules produce a uniform yet varied collection of chapters, each laying out complex arguments and parables in unparalleled rhymed prose.
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2024.04.16 05:52 eloquentlywrite-it Alliteration - repetition of consonant sounds in close proximity. EG: Sally sells seashells by the seashore."

Alliteration
Let us begin with something we know Shakespeare stole, simply so that we can see what a wonderful thief he was. When Shakespeare decided to write The Tragedie of Anthonie, and Cleopatra he of course needed a history book from which to work. The standard work on the subject was Plutarch's Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans, but Plutarch wrote in Greek, and, as Shakespeare's friend Ben Jonson later pointed out, "thou hadst small Latin and less Greek."
Despite years at Stratford Grammar School learning pretty much nothing but the classics, Shakespeare could never be bothered with foreign languages. He always used translations.
So he got hold of the standard English translation of Plu- tarch, which had been written by a chap called Thomas North and published in 1579. We know that this is the version
Shakespeare used because you can sometimes see him using the same word that North used, and sometimes pairs of words. But when Shakespeare got to the big speech of the whole play, when he really needed some poetry, when he wanted true greatness, when he wanted to describe the moment that Antony saw Cleopatra on the barge and fell in love with her he just found the relevant paragraph in North and copied it out almost word for word. Almost word for word. Here's North:
she disdained to set forward otherwise but to take her barge in the river Cydnus, the poop whereof was of gold, the sails of purple, and the oars of silver, which kept stroke in rowing after the sound of the music of flutes, howboys, cithernes, viols, and such other instru- ments as they played up in the barge.
And here's Shakespeare:
The barge she sat in like a burnished throne, Burned on the water: the poop was beaten gold; Purple the sails and so perfumed that The winds were lovesick with them; the oars were silver, Which to the tune of flutes kept stroke, and made The water which they beat to follow faster, As amorous of their strokes.
The thing about this is that it's definitely half stolen. There is no possible way that Shakespeare didn't have North open on his desk when he was writing. But also, Shakespeare made little changes. That means that we can actually watch Shakespeare working. We can peep back 400 years and see the greatest genius who ever lived scribbling away. We can see how he did it, and it's really pretty bloody simple. All he did was add some alliteration.
Nobody knows why we love to hear words that begin with the same letter, but we do and Shakespeare knew it. So he picked the word barge and worked from there. Barge begins with a B, so Shakespeare sat back and said to himself: "The barge she sat in was like a..." And then (though I can't prove this) he said: "Ba... ba... ba... burnished throne." He jotted that down and then he decided to do another. "The barge she sat in like a burnished throne... ba...ba... burned? It burned on the water." And the poop was gold? Not any more: the poop was beaten gold. That's four Bs in two lines. Enough to be getting on with. Shakespeare could have got carried away and written something like:
The barge she basked in, like a burnished boat Burned by the banks, the back was beaten brass.
But that would just be silly. Of course, Shakespeare did write like that sometimes. There's a bit in A Midsummer Night's Dream that goes:
Whereat, with blade, with bloody blameful blade, He bravely broached his boiling bloody breast; But there he was taking the mickey out of poets who use alliteration but don't know where to stop. No, Shakespeare wasn't going to put any more Bs in, he was working on the P North's original had "the poop whereof was of gold, the sails of purple." That's two Ps already, so Shakespeare decided that the sails would be pa... pa... perfumed. Maybe he stopped to wonder how you would perfume a whole sail, or how you might be able to smell them from the river bank (the Cydnus is quite wide). Or maybe he didn't. Accuracy is much less important than alliteration.
From there on in, Shakespeare was coasting. North had "After the sound" so Shakespeare had "to the tune." North had a whole orchestra of instruments "flutes, howboys, cithernes, viols"-Shakespeare cut that down to just flutes, because he liked the F. So flutes made the "Water Which they beat to Follow Faster, As Amorous of their strokes."
So Shakespeare stole; but he did wonderful things with his plunder. He's like somebody who nicks your old socks and then darns them. Shakespeare simply knew that people are suckers for alliteration and that it's pretty damned easy to make something alliterate (or that it's surprisingly simple to add alliteration).
You can spend all day trying to think of some universal truth to set down on paper, and some poets try that. Shake- speare knew that it's much easier to string together some words beginning with the same letter. It doesn't matter what it's about. It can be the exact depth in the sea to which a chap's corpse has sunk; hardly a matter of universal interest, but if you say, "Full fathom five thy father lies," you will be considered the greatest poet who ever lived. Express precisely the same thought any other way-e.g. "your father's corpse is 9.144 metres below sea level" and you're just a coastguard with some bad news.
Any phrase, so long as it alliterates, is memorable and will be believed even if it's a bunch of nonsense. Curiosity, for example, did not kill the cat. There are no widely reported cases of felines dying from being too inquisitive. In fact, the original proverb was not "curiosity killed the cat" (which is recorded only from 1921), it was "care killed the cat." And even that one was changed. When the proverb was first recorded (in Shakespeare, actually, although he seems to be just referring to a well known bit of folk wisdom), care meant sorrow or unhappiness. But by the twentieth century it was care in the sense of too much kindness-something along the lines of a pet that is overfed and pampered. In a hundred years' time it may be something else that does the pussy- killing, although you can be certain that whatever it is- kindness, consternation or corruption-will begin with a C or K.
Similarly, there was once an old proverb, "An ynche in a misse is as good as an ell," an ell being an old unit of mea- surement of 1.1 miles. So the ell was changed to a mile, and then the inch was dropped because it doesn't begin with an M, and we were left with "A miss is as good as a mile," which, if you think about it, doesn't really make sense any
more. But who needs sense when you have alliteration? Nobody has ever thrown a baby out with the bathwater, nor is there anything particularly right about rain. Even when something does make a bit of sense, it's usually deve ous why the comparison was picked. It takes two to tang but it takes two to waltz as well. There are whole hogs, b why not pigs? Bright as a button. Cool as a cucumber. Dead as a doornail. In fact, Dickens made this point rather bette than I at the opening of A Christmas Carol.
Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door- nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile, and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, emphatically, that Marley was as dead as a door-nail.
Except that Dickens knew full well why it is doornails that are dead. Dickens was a writer, and as a writer, he knew that alliteration is the simplest way to turn a memorable phrase. This was, after all, the guy who had written Nicholas Nick- leby, The Pickwick Papers (full title: The Posthumous Papers of the Pickwick Club) and, indeed, A Christmas Carol. He knew which side his bread was buttered, as had those who came before him, like Jane Austen (Sense and Sensibility, Pride and Prejudice), and those who came after him (Where's Wally?) So popular is alliteration that in the 1960s it actually made a grab for political power. In the 1960s a vast radical youth movement began campaigning to do things for the sole reason that they began with the same letter. Ban the bomb. Burn your bra. Power to the people. For a moment there it seemed as though alliteration would change the world. But then the spirit of idealism faded and those who had manned the barricades went off and got jobs in market- ing. They stopped telling people to ban the bomb and started telling them to put a tiger in your tank, chuck out the chintz and use Access-Your Flexible Friend, or perhaps PayPal. And all because the lady loves Milk Tray.
It's enough to get your goat.¹
Alliteration can be brief and obvious-a short, sharp, shock. Or it can be long and subtle. John Keats once wrote fourteen lines of Fs and Ss, and it was beautiful:
Deep in the shady sadness of a vale Far sunken from the healthy breath of morn, Far from the fiery noon, and eve's one star, Sat gray-hair'd Saturn, quiet as a stone, Still as the silence round about his lair; Forest on forest hung about his head Like cloud on cloud. No stir of air was there, Not so much life as on a summer's day Robs not one light seed from the feather'd grass, But where the dead leaf fell, there did it rest. A stream went voiceless by, still deadened more By reason of his fallen divinity Spreading a shade: the Naiad 'mid her reeds Press'd her cold finger closer to her lips.
Whereas, at almost the same time, Thomas De Quincer famous junkie and prose stylist, got himself all muddled up over this sentence:
At present, after exchanging a few parting words, and a few final or farewell farewells with my faithful female agent.
So muddled was he that he decided to add a footnote apolo- gising for his paroemion (that's the technical name for exces- sive alliteration). The footnote went:
Some people are irritated, or even fancy themselves insulted, by overt acts of alliteration, as many people are by puns. On their account, let me say, that, although there are here eight separate f's in less than half a sentence, this is to be held as pure accident. In fact, at one time there were nine f's in the original cast of the sentence, until I, in pity of the affronted people, substi- tuted female agent for female friend.
"Agent" seems a strange substitution for "friend." But he probably had to do it as he couldn't change "farewell fart wells." It's much too clever to use a word as an adjective and then a noun. In fact, the trick has a name. It's called polyptoton.

Own Explanation:
why are not vowels used in alliteration
Consonant sounds tend to create sharper, more distinct sounds compared to vowels, which are produced with less constriction of airflow.

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Alliteration is the repetition of consonant sounds in close proximity within a phrase or sentence.

"The Wizard of Oz" (1939), in the scene where the Scarecrow sings his song "If I Only Had a Brain":
"I'd unravel every riddle For any individ'le In trouble or in pain."
The repeated "r" sound in "ravel," "riddle," "individ'le," and "trouble" demonstrates alliteration, creating a rhythmic and memorable quality to the lyrics.

"The Shining" (1980), directed by Stanley Kubrick. In one of the iconic scenes, Jack Torrance, played by Jack Nicholson, types the same sentence repeatedly on his typewriter:
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
This sentence showcases alliteration with the repeated "w" sound in "work" and "play," as well as the repeated "d" sound in "dull" and "boy." The use of alliteration in this context adds to the eerie and unsettling atmosphere of the film.

"Jurassic Park" (1993), directed by Steven Spielberg. In the scene where Dr. Ian Malcolm, played by Jeff Goldblum, is discussing chaos theory, he says:
"Life, uh, finds a way."
The repeated "f" sound in "finds" and "way" creates alliteration in this memorable line.


"Goldfinger" (1964), there's a famous line delivered by the character Auric Goldfinger, played by Gert Fröbe:
"Do you expect me to talk?"
To which James Bond, portrayed by Sean Connery, responds:
"No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die."
The repeated "e" sound in "expect" and "me" creates alliteration in this intense exchange.

"The Dark Knight" (2008), the character Harvey Dent, played by Aaron Eckhart, delivers a line with alliteration:
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
The repeated "h" sound in "hero" and "yourself" creates alliteration in this memorable quote.

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2024.04.10 02:45 ComprehensiveStore25 Actually We’re fckin ghosts

The more you think the more you start realizing that everything people see as a “ghost” (as noun, verb, whatever) is exactly how you’d describe yourself, no joke. They’d call us Debater, Joker, Inventor, etc. but none of them fits so well as just being a GHOST.
THINK about it.
—- Edit: Look at how ISTPs spend their entire life looking for any sort of ghost-like creature. It’s almost like they’re unconsciously looking for us 😂
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2024.04.09 18:50 soulcapmir Notes

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2024.04.07 12:00 AutoModerator Weekly Reminder: Rules and FAQ - April 07, 2024 (Now with updates!)

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What do you mean by No Trolling? I was just...

What does "concern trolling", "gish-galloping", and "sealioning" have to do with stepparenting? This isn't a debate sub, why are you using debate terms?

What is "Concern Trolling?"

What is a "Devil's Advocate"?

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2024.04.04 23:26 ProgVirus A Response to the Paul Conn Email, and Call to Ensure We Treat Allies (and their time!) With the Utmost Respect

Hi Superstonk,
I'm writing this in response to a very lengthy email sent to Paul Conn (Computershare) - you've probably seen the post in Hot already. And if not, here's a link - please read this first before continuing!
https://www.reddit.com/Superstonk/comments/1buwfen/lawsondt_and_team_asked_paul_conn_president/
First off: Paul is awesome for taking the time to talk with Superstonk and other communities, multiple times, over multiple formats these past few years. Seriously, thank you Paul. Your willingness to help investor literacy and put yourself in the focus of a bunch of shit-flinging apes is commendable.
I respect Paul a lot, and his time. As a shit-flinging ape myself, I've learned a lot from him as I've listened to him explain and answer the same questions, over and over, multiple times now. While I was excited at the prospect of further engagement with Paul, after reading what was sent to him, I sincerely feel he was duped into reading a novel of unrelated questions that are ultimately an abuse of both his goodwill and time.
The Twatter thread that spawned all of this started when someone posted that on the date of the latest share count, 3.6 million shares appeared for lending at open and disappeared at noon, stating they believe that DTCC is falsifying data. Paul responded that this is a big claim, and to email him.
Aside from the 5-paragraph preamble, Paul was inundated with 52 lengthy questions on a variety of topics. It's a mixed bag of questions that have already answered (multiple times, by multiple authorities), speculation, misunderstanding, with a few genuinely good questions sprinkled in. I don't really see much of a connection back to the original claim that was being made, is the worrying part - you know the thing that compelled Paul to reach out on Twatter in the first place. Bait-and-switched, he was.
So, I've reviewed all 52 questions, because frankly we already have the knowledge to answer many of these ourselves, and some are just not even questions for Paul to answer. Paul, Computershare, the SEC, the DTCC, FINRA, and GameStop are all my sources. Lurk my profile if you need to. The issue is not that we don't have answers, it's with the dissemination of the answers and understanding we do already have against a background of what Paul Conn himself correctly identifies (in multiple AMAs) as misinformation.

(Original questions are in quotey things beneath my responses, I trust Reddit is going to absolutely mangle the formatting so apologies in advance if that happens)

1) Sole legal title means your name next to your shares on the ledger, where you are legally recognized as the, well, sole owner. Computershare as the transfer agent is the final authority, and we know that this is exactly how DSPP shares are recorded on the ledger as this was confirmed with viewing. Investor's name next to the number of shares.
Some investors have started using the term ‘Sole Legal Title’ to refer to an investor who owns shares in their own name exclusively, on the issuer ledger, without any other entities involved (no nominees, no custodians, etc). ‘Pure DRS’ holdings would represent ‘Sole Legal Title’ while owning shares through a Plan or in an IRA with a custodian would not. Is there a better /more official term for this kind of ownership? An SEC bulletin uses the phrase ‘DRS Form’.

3) Plan shares consist of two 'buckets'. Investors' shares and non-investor shares (the OE shares). Investor shares are held with Computershare's wholly owned and operated nominee outside the DTCC. The non-investor shares with Computershare's nominee in DTC. Their purpose in the simplest terms is a sort of 'float'.
When you sell via Computershare, it's instant. The only way it can be instant is if they sell one share already in the DTC, and debit your holdings accordingly. In any other scenario you'd need to wait T+2 for shares to settle, which is less than instant.
If there's a question here, it's the first part of #2 (the last sentence is inconsequential as investors' shares are not OE shares).
Can you explain in detail exactly how the holding works for Plan shares held at the DTC? Are those shares considered "non-investor owned"? If so, what does that mean exactly? Are non-investor shares mutually exclusive with other holding types? What are the actual account types that CS uses to interface with the DTCC with for DRS purposes?

4) This is a false dichotomy, both are false in the context of the question. The question is again the first part of #2 - "who owns the OE shares"? They're held in DTCC so we know they're under Cede & Co.'s name on the ledger. They would not belong to DTCC however. Nor would they belong to registered holders (I am reading this as 'shareholders'; investors) since investor shares are not OE shares.
Which of the following descriptions would you say best describes Plan shares held with DTC for operational efficiency purposes: “held by Cede & Co on behalf of the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation” OR “held by registered holders with the transfer agent”

7) Just a call-out for a good question. DSPP appears to be a corner case of beneficial ownership. Remember they are held with a nominee outside DTC but also is true that they are directly registered, and Computershare has final say over ownership regardless the technical plumbing they use. Those shares are directly registered, name next to number, on the ledger. I think Paul Conn hesitated to call it beneficial ownership outright because he senses the community is very confused, generally speaking, on the subject.
Currently, the common understanding is that Dingo & Co is a nominee used by Computershare for investors in DirectStock to enable features such as fractional shares and fungible bulk holdings. Individual investors names are listed as a subclass, which are on the issuer ledger under the name Dingo & Co. This is a form of beneficial ownership, but is not street name ownership, as shares purchased or through plan are removed from the DTC. Is this an accurate description of ownership structure?

9 & 10) This question is a perfect example of the (probably intentionally, though I eat a bit of tinfoil) confusing use of language.
https://www.sec.gov/about/reports-publications/investor-publications/holding-your-securities-get-the-facts
"To hold a security in direct registration means the security is registered in your name on the issuer’s books and is held for you in book-entry form by a transfer agent to the issuer that has been admitted as Direct Registration System (“DRS”) eligible by DTC."
Let's look at the qualities of DRS:
Both DRS and DSPP satisfy these conditions so far, but that last point is sticky:
So what do we call these shares that are held in very much the same was as DRS'd shares, just not technically held inside the DTC's DRS? It sounds to me like having shares directly registered to your name in sole legal ownership, held outside the DTCC is what matters most to us as shareholders here, not the transfer agent's eligibility for DTC's system.
Seriously though, look at the language. Read this Direct Registration section again, and again, and again. The SEC does their best to conflate having shares directly registered, with DTC's Direct Registration System. One means to have shares held directly in your name on the issuer's books (directly registered shares), the other is a proper noun, the DTC's Direct Registration System (DRS) which facilitates the direct registration of shares.
(Also though, I don't think Paul Conn should be expected to answer for the SEC's bulletin)
In June 2023, the SEC’s OIEA and FINRA released bulletins (excerpts below) certifying that investors who purchased through plan and wished to hold shares directly on the issuer ledger needed to transfer those shares from plan to DRS. The CS FAQ uses similar language. Both Plan and DRS investors appear named on the issuer ledger. Could you describe the process of the Plan -> DRS transfer described here, and how the ownership record changes as a result?

11) I'm honestly not totally sure I understand what's being asked here, but DTC's DRS only works in whole shares. Shares purchased through DSPP contain fractionals as a result of how purchasing through Computershare works. Computershare cannot hold your funds - they must wait for the funds to settle before passing them along to their broker and say "buy however many shares you can with this lump sum right meow". Since it will almost never be the case that the amount of shares the dollar amount buys will be a whole number, you get a fractional. Finally, DSPP shares are held by Computershare's wholly owned and operated nominee while still being directly registered to investors (names next to shares) on the ledger where they are recognized as the sole legal owner. In much the same way as DRS.
When Shares are transferred from a brokerage to a Computershare account, only whole shares can be transferred and documents from computershare say “DTC Stock Withdrawals (DRS)”. Are shares purchased through DRP/DSPP also “DTC Stock Withdrawals (DRS)”, but withdrawn to Computershare’s nominee rather than the investor?

12) I wish this were framed differently, as this is asking Paul to speculate which I'm not sure he can/will do. Even a "do you believe it is a statistical outlier that... etc."
If the reported DRS totals for an issuer for the last 5 quarters straight are consistent (within rounding of ~100k shares), what are some possible explanations for why this might be?

13) The way this is framed will always be a "no". It's asking Paul if it's possible that Computershare is not reporting the proper numbers to GameStop.
Is it possible any quantity of registered shares are not being counted in the total reported to the company for any reason? (plan designated, DRS shares, fractionals, "operational efficiency", etc) Per CS FAQ, issuers are provided Plan and Book holdings tallies separately.

14) This has been addressed a bunch of times. We have the SEC's bulletin of course, which clearly states that shares held in DRS are directly registered to investors, but this is one that Paul has already answered. You can move shares between DRS and DSPP as you like, for free. Enrollment in Plan does not make your DRS shares suddenly not be directly registered to you. The only time it might matter is when a dividend is issued. Any dividends due for both DRS and DSPP holdings will be reinvested into more shares (bullish!!). That's pretty much it.
If an investor has a Computershare Investor Center account that's holding shares of designation "Book", does enrolling that account in the DirectStock Plan have any effect on who holds title to those shares? Specifically, do they remain DRS (DRS Form/Pure DRS), or do those shares become held in the Plan? Does it matter the method by which the account is enrolled (such as: plan purchase, DRIP activation, or setting a limit sell order)?

15) Yes, enrollment in Plan is done at an account level, no it does not suddenly move your DRS holdings into DSPP holdings. Your DRS'd shares remain within DTC's Direct Registration System, regardless of whether your account with Computershare is enrolled in GameStop's DirectStock Purchase Plan.
If an investor is enrolled in the DirectStock plan, are all the shares (DRS and plan) in their account considered plan-enrolled shares per the Computershare FAQ?

17) Why would DTC compensate Computershare, for Computershare's own operational efficiency? The OE shares are not there for the benefit of DTC, they are there for the benefit of DSPP-enrolled investors and Computershare who manages the Plan
Is Computershare (or their subsidiary, nominee, or chosen broker dealer) compensated by the DTC, the Issuer, or any other third party for maintaining operational efficiency?

19) "Ask the company" - is there really any other answer for this? It's not Paul Conn's question to answer, this information is privileged and between them and their client (GameStop)
How could an investor of a given security learn the exact number of shares kept with DTC for OE% by Computershare on a given date?

20) Investors' DSPP shares are held in Computershare's nominee outside DTC. Whether they hold all of those in one account with their nominee or spread across multiple doesn't seem to matter (what argument could one make where it does?).
Are shares of any given security owned by accounts enrolled in the DirectStock plan maintained in fungible bulk and held by Computershare’s nominee?

21) I hope this wasn't sent as-is, as Paul might not remember the full context (going over the events after typing this: yes, sadly, it was). Specifically, he said that there was a mischaracterization around the problem of fractional shares but did not elaborate. Still, this might be a "his opinion" kind of thing and may not be able or inclined to answer on behalf of Computershare in any official capacity.
Near the end of the 5/2/23 YouTube video “An update on Fractional and Plan Shares”, you said there was a "mischaracterization" of the problem online. What did you mean?

26) See #14, we know the answer to this. Enrollment in DSPP happens at an account-level. The terms of Plan re: dividends applies to both holdings. But your DRS shares are not removed from DRS just because you participate in DSPP.
Are DRS designated shares pulled into the plan when DRP/DSPP (DirectStock) is enabled, or are only Plan designated shares affected by enrollment?

28) For shares to be held at DTC, they must be registered in their nominee's name (Cede & Co.). To "be held at" DTC simply means that DTC has their ugly name next to the shares.
Under what circumstances (if any) would DRS shares held with Computershare for which Cede & Co is not the registered holder be held at the DTC?

29) See #28
Under what circumstances (if any) would Plan shares held with Computershare for which Cede & Co is not the registered holder be held at the DTC?

30-33) These are not questions for Paul, maybe Computershare's lawyers, as they touch too closely on specifics and Computershare's own operations.
Can you confirm if there are currently any ongoing corrections or dispute resolutions involving Direct Registration transactions, specifically using the '396 (Direct Registration Reclaim DK-Without Memo Seg)' code, that have impacted reportable DRS numbers in any stock significantly?
Could you provide details on how the application of the '396' transaction code for Direct Registration Reclaim DK-Without Memo Seg activities is being monitored to ensure the integrity of DRS numbers?
What procedures are in place to review and approve transactions under the '396 (Direct Registration Reclaim DK-Without Memo Seg)' code, and how are these documented in the context of DRS reporting?
Has computershare seen any significant volume increase in Delivery Orders marked with codes 391 or 396 around significant DRS reporting dates for any of its issuers?

34) Asking Paul to speculate on what their clients do, even generally speaking, is kind of bad taste. He asked to be emailed as his corporate email on a public forum. He represents Computershare when he speaks, so I think this is kind of inappropriate (especially given the number of questions).
Could you speculate as to why an issuer might choose to adjust the language in their 10Q/K of the way they report DRS totals, or what a change in language could imply? For example, if an issuer reported DRS shares as “directly registered” for almost two years and then changed the language to “registered” alone.

37) Because it is the issuer's (GameStop's) Plan that Computershare manages for them
Why does the issuer name come up on bank statements when purchasing through DirectStock?

39) Again not a question for Paul, he's not a lawyer. They give clients their numbers, and it's up to the clients to report them (or not). Considering GameStop is one of the like 3 companies that does report these numbers, it looks like the "may" in "may be subject to..." is doing a lot of heavy lifting there
Computershare has indicated in the FAQ that it is up to individual issuers to disclose shares in DSPP in their tally of directly registered shares, and that such a disclosure may be subject to legislation and regulation. Could you direct us to the relevant legislation and regulation?

43) This is pretty open-ended, and not for Paul to answer. It's asking how he feels about something, and it's not his place to comment on market shenanigans. Again, I'm assuming Paul is speaking in a capacity representing Computershare as he has with every other engagement. But also it's the Company's plan, and the Company through their laywers in recently rejected proposals have stated that recurring purchases benefit price discovery.
Do you feel that a recurring and predictable schedule for recurring buys creates an issue for recurring buyers? Predictable price movement can lead to arbitrage opportunities and can result in worse outcomes for plan participants in terms of dollars invested/shares owned.

44) Why would Paul be able to comment on DTCC's operations? As a transfer agent, they can see all shares held by Cede & Co. if that's what's being asked.
Who, besides DTCC, can see ownership records of DTC members at the DTCC?

45) This is a question about DTC's FAST system, not really for Paul or Computershare to answer
When participants log into the FAST system at the DTCC for DRS functionality, can they see anything about shares that the DTCC holds? The user manual for the FAST system has a DRS section but it is only a couple of pages with some screenshots, not granular data.
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2024.03.31 12:00 AutoModerator Weekly Reminder: Rules and FAQ - March 31, 2024 (Now with updates!)

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Nobody knew what they were getting into.

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Why is this sub such an echo chamber?

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What is a gendered slur?

Seriously? You are the language police now?

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What is thread derailment?

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What is "brigading"?

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What if I see an obvious troll?

What if they are being really mean in comments?

What if they are harassing me in private messages?

What do you mean by No Naming & Shaming?

I can't link to other subs?

I can't ping other users?

What does No Platitudes mean?

Why don't you people understand it's a package deal?

Why can't you just love them like they are your own?

What do you mean by No Trolling? I was just...

What does "concern trolling", "gish-galloping", and "sealioning" have to do with stepparenting? This isn't a debate sub, why are you using debate terms?

What is "Concern Trolling?"

What is a "Devil's Advocate"?

"Gish-galloping?" What does that even mean?

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Who gets to define what is considered asshattery?



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2024.03.31 00:42 BirdsongBossMusic PSA for researchers: Get your language right

I'm trans. I am also a researcher for trans issues. I'm working on a systematic review, so I'm reading a ton of other studies, and I come across this sooo often.
If you're going to do research about trans people, you better refer to them properly. I am only 40 articles deep this time and I've already encountered "trans-genders" (yes with a hyphen) and "transgendered," seen trans women lumped in with MSM (men who have sex with men), seen "biological males/females" referring to trans people. While some of those may not seem bad at first glance, it really is jarring. I know some trans people don't mind this, but I personally have a huge issue, it's like a pet peeve but worse. It's an ick factor thing.
The proper way, imo, to refer to trans people is by saying "transgender people." Don't use transgender as a noun in any form. When you must refer to sex assigned at birth, it is "sex assigned at birth," not "biological sex." It's not "biological males," it's "people assigned male at birth," or even better, "transgender women/NB people assigned male at birth" (calling attention to identity). Same for people assigned female at birth. We are not transsexuals, we are not crossdressers, we are not hermaphrodites, we are not transvestites. Unless someone self-describes with these words (which can be common especially in older generations), do not use them. Trans women are not MSM because they AREN'T MEN. You should be analyzing the two groups separately anyhow! Not doing that is why it's so hard to find research on trans people!!
When you use these words, when you use "transgender" as a noun, you are distilling us down to purely our trans identity. Some of us don't mind this, but for a lot of us, this is used so so often to dehumanize us and justify discrimination against us. It was used as a tactic by the Nazis to justify the genocide of Jewish people. Unless you yourself are trans, you should never default to this.
It seems so small. Why does it matter? Even y'all in this sub might think I'm being ridiculous, I don't know. But I see these words and I think of what's going on across my country, across a lot of the world right now with trans rights. And it makes me want to immediately discard your research, because if you can't even get the words right, then how am I supposed to believe you did your due diligence for the rest of it? If you use the words wielded by those that hate us, then how am I supposed to believe you're doing your research in good faith? It's a sign that whoever is doing the research is willing to get everything right except the most base respect of the population they are studying. It's a tiny cherry on the massive cake of why the majority of trans people don't trust research.
For older research this is forgiveable, but in 2024 y'all gotta learn. Academia is so slow on the uptake and there's really no reason for it. It's one thing for your words to be a couple years outdated because you started in 2020 and published in 2023, but a lot of these examples have been outdated for decades at this point. I know some of y'all lurk here. Do better.
(This is sort of advice but mostly a vent.)
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2024.03.24 11:00 AutoModerator Weekly Reminder: Rules and FAQ - March 24, 2024 (Now with updates!)

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NOTE: These rules are guidelines. Some moderation discretion is to be expected.

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1. Kindness Matters

Advise, don't criticize.

2. No Drama

This is a support sub.

3. Report, Don’t Rant

No backseat modding.

4. No Naming & Shaming

No userpings or links.

5. No Platitudes

Nobody knew what they were getting into.

6. No Trolling

We have zero tolerance for trolls.

7. No Personally Identifiable Information

Use discretion when posting.

8. No More than 2 Posts per 24 hours

Use the daily threads.

9. Follow Reddiquette

Remember the human.

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Just don't.

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What does Kindness Matters mean?

What about being kind to the kids?

Why is this sub such an echo chamber?

Why can't I tell OP that they are an asshole?

But OP asked if they were an asshole?!

What is a gendered slur?

Seriously? You are the language police now?

What does No Drama really mean?

What is thread derailment?

But what if they didn't answer my question?

Why am I being silenced? I'm just asking for a back and forth!

Why can't I look at someone's post history and comment about it?

Why can't we crosspost stuff to other subs?

What if it's my own post?

What is "brigading"?

What is this whole Report, Don't Rant thing about?

What if I see an obvious troll?

What if they are being really mean in comments?

What if they are harassing me in private messages?

What do you mean by No Naming & Shaming?

I can't link to other subs?

I can't ping other users?

What does No Platitudes mean?

Why don't you people understand it's a package deal?

Why can't you just love them like they are your own?

What do you mean by No Trolling? I was just...

What does "concern trolling", "gish-galloping", and "sealioning" have to do with stepparenting? This isn't a debate sub, why are you using debate terms?

What is "Concern Trolling?"

What is a "Devil's Advocate"?

"Gish-galloping?" What does that even mean?

And "sealioning?" What's that?

Who gets to define what is considered asshattery?



FAQ - Sub Questions

Posting Guidelines for Stepparents

Posting Guidelines for Bioparents

Guidelines for Stepkids

What the heck are all these acronyms? I'm confused!

Why aren't my posts or comments showing up?

Why was my comment removed?

This comment/post is really offensive! Why is it still up?

I've received a hurtful/unwanted PM from someone about my recent post. What should I do?

What are the general moderator guidelines?

I've been wrongly banned/Why can't I comment here?

Why was I banned without warning?

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